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Downpour is more than 60% of June monthly rainfall: PUB
By Joanne Chan | Posted: 16 June 2010 1530 hrs
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Flood at ION Orchard due to heavy rainfall [/URL]
SINGAPORE: The heavy rain Wednesday morning caused flooding in many areas in central Singapore.
National water agency, PUB, says almost 100 mm of rain fell within a two-hour period from about 9 am to 11 am.
That's more than 60 per cent of the average monthly rainfall for June.
PUB says the rain was especially heavy over the Orchard Road and Rochor area.
It caused flooding at the Orchard Road and the Scotts Road intersection for about an hour making it impassable to traffic.
Ms Devika Misra, who was stuck at Liat Towers because of the heavy rain, said the water was knee-high.
"Orchard Road, opposite Lido, is flooded. And there are about half a dozen cars marooned, they can't go forward. And there is a person whom I think is from the Civil Defence Service who is wading into the water to rescue the people, to get them out of the car.
The Singapore Civil Defence Force, SCDF, said they dispatched two fire engines to the junction of Orchard Road and Paterson Road."
They helped about 60 passengers from two SBS Transit double-decker buses and about 10 people from six cars stranded in their vehicles to safety.
In some cases, SCDF personnel had to carry children out of the vehicles.
None were injured.
SCDF personnel were also called in to pump water out of the flooded basement 1 of Liat Towers.
Alex spoke to MediaCorp from his office at Goldbell Towers, which faces the Newton MRT station.
"The water is too deep. Everyone is stopping and reversing along Bukit Timah Road."
Alex added that at least five cars broke down, and other motorists had to find alternative routes.
Other parts of central Singapore were also flooded, including Coronation Road West, Fourth Avenue, and Veerasamy Road.
PUB advises the public to exercise caution as flash floods may still occur in the event of heavy storms.
It says the cause of the flood is still being investigated.
The public can obtain the latest weather reports, including heavy rain warnings, by tuning in to radio broadcasts, calling NEA's weather forecast hotline at 6542 7788, visiting the NEA website at [url]www.nea.gov.sg (http://forums.condosingapore.com/) or accessing the mobile weather service.
The public can also call PUB's 24-hour Call Centre at 1800-284 6600 to report obstructions in drains or to check the flood situation. - CNA/jy
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Downpour is more than 60% of June monthly rainfall: PUB
By Joanne Chan | Posted: 16 June 2010 1530 hrs
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Flood at ION Orchard due to heavy rainfall
SINGAPORE: The heavy rain Wednesday morning caused flooding in many areas in central Singapore.
National water agency, PUB, says almost 100 mm of rain fell within a two-hour period from about 9 am to 11 am.
That's more than 60 per cent of the average monthly rainfall for June.
PUB says the rain was especially heavy over the Orchard Road and Rochor area.
It caused flooding at the Orchard Road and the Scotts Road intersection for about an hour making it impassable to traffic.
Ms Devika Misra, who was stuck at Liat Towers because of the heavy rain, said the water was knee-high.
"Orchard Road, opposite Lido, is flooded. And there are about half a dozen cars marooned, they can't go forward. And there is a person whom I think is from the Civil Defence Service who is wading into the water to rescue the people, to get them out of the car.
The Singapore Civil Defence Force, SCDF, said they dispatched two fire engines to the junction of Orchard Road and Paterson Road."
They helped about 60 passengers from two SBS Transit double-decker buses and about 10 people from six cars stranded in their vehicles to safety.
In some cases, SCDF personnel had to carry children out of the vehicles.
None were injured.
SCDF personnel were also called in to pump water out of the flooded basement 1 of Liat Towers.
Alex spoke to MediaCorp from his office at Goldbell Towers, which faces the Newton MRT station.
"The water is too deep. Everyone is stopping and reversing along Bukit Timah Road."
Alex added that at least five cars broke down, and other motorists had to find alternative routes.
Other parts of central Singapore were also flooded, including Coronation Road West, Fourth Avenue, and Veerasamy Road.
PUB advises the public to exercise caution as flash floods may still occur in the event of heavy storms.
It says the cause of the flood is still being investigated.
The public can obtain the latest weather reports, including heavy rain warnings, by tuning in to radio broadcasts, calling NEA's weather forecast hotline at 6542 7788, visiting the NEA website at www.nea.gov.sg (http://www.nea.gov.sg) or accessing the mobile weather service.
The public can also call PUB's 24-hour Call Centre at 1800-284 6600 to report obstructions in drains or to check the flood situation. - CNA/jy
looks like Far East building their residences above their multi storey carpark isn't such a bad idea after all and those having basement carparks may not be such a good thing after all. Hmmm....
No difference wah, the car still have to drive from the street (which if flooded will be rendered useless) into the MSCP wah! If the street is flooded to knee deep, 100 storey high MSCP also useless. :banghead:
looks like Far East building their residences above their multi storey carpark isn't such a bad idea after all and those having basement carparks may not be such a good thing after all. Hmmm....
No difference wah, the car still have to drive from the street (which if flooded will be rendered useless) into the MSCP wah! If the street is flooded to knee deep, 100 storey high MSCP also useless. :banghead:
I think you are already out driving...... I think Tercia was still at home.
What happens if you wake up to it? Where would you rather have your car - multistory or basement carpark?
Remember those cars in Bukit Timah condo floating upto the roof.
50 years sure passes fast...... :)
Invest in prime D9 10 but be sure never to buy low floor... lol
Besides prime for shopping, it's prime for flooding too! :scared-2:
What is this flood gate PUB talked about? Are there any flood gate to open for Orchard area which can help to alleviate the flooding?? (see below regarding Bukit Timah and trying to relate to Orchard - Any relationship or similarities?).
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100mm of rain fell within 3 hours, causing floods By Joanne Chan | Posted: 16 June 2010 1530 hrs
About 100 millimetres (mm) of rain fell between 8am and 11am on Wednesday, causing flash floods in some parts of Singapore. National water agency, PUB, said the amount of rain recorded was approximately more than 60 per cent of the average monthly rainfall for June (average rainfall for June is 162mm). When the rain first started at about 8am, PUB mobilised its contractors and staff to be on standby at hotspots including Cuscaden Road, Wilby Road, Jalan Haji Alias and Little India which were likely to flood. It alerted Traffic Police at about 9.15am, when the rain intensified. PUB also sent its officers and contractors to help stranded motorists, residents whose homes were flooded and owners of premises at affected locations. At the Upper Bukit Timah area, PUB said, its officers operated the flood gate and this helped to mitigate flooding in that area. PUB also sent SMS alerts to the management of condominiums located in the area when the water level sensor reached 75 per cent at about 9.30am. A second more intense storm fell over the central part of Singapore at about 10.30am. The worst-hit was the Orchard Road/Scotts Road intersection, where the flood waters reached a depth of 300 mm. The waters subsided within one hour, at about 11.30am. The last known major flooding at the Orchard Road/Scotts Road junction was in 1984. PUB is investigating the cause of the flooding at Orchard Road. It said investigations can only be carried out when the water level in the drains has fully subsided. In the meantime, PUB and its contractors cleared up the debris on the roads as well as helped owners of affected buildings to pump out water from the basements. PUB advised the public to exercise caution as flash floods may still occur in the event of heavy storms. Ms Devika Misra, who was stuck at Orchard's Liat Towers because of the heavy rain, said the water was knee-high. "Orchard Road, opposite Lido, is flooded. And there are about half a dozen cars marooned, they can't go forward. And there is a person whom I think is from the Civil Defence Service who is wading into the water to rescue the people, to get them out of the car," she said. The Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) said they dispatched two fire engines to the junction of Orchard Road and Paterson Road. They helped about 60 passengers from two SBS Transit double-decker buses and about 10 people from six cars stranded in their vehicles to safety. In some cases, SCDF personnel had to carry children out of the vehicles. None were injured. SCDF personnel were also called in to pump water out of the flooded basement 1 of Liat Towers. Alex spoke to MediaCorp from his office at Goldbell Towers, which faces the Newton MRT station. "The water is too deep. Everyone is stopping and reversing along Bukit Timah Road." Alex added that at least five cars broke down, and other motorists had to find alternative routes. Other parts of Singapore were also flooded, including Coronation Road West, Fourth Avenue and Veerasamy Road. The public can obtain the latest weather reports, including heavy rain warnings, by tuning in to radio broadcasts, calling NEA's weather forecast hotline at 6542 7788, visiting the NEA website at www.nea.gov.sg or accessing the mobile weather service. The public can also call PUB's 24-hour Call Centre at 1800-284 6600 to report obstructions in drains or to check the flood situation. - CNA/jy/ir
PUB sure owes the public an explanation.:mad:
Say if there are no flood gates installed, does that mean there is no need to manually operate the flood gate(s) and hence can actually alleviate &/or reduce all flooding in areas where previously there is no flooding but now do?
Are there flood gates previously?
What are these flood gates for since they actually worsen flooding if not opened?
Are these flood gates related to Marina Barrage where they are trying to store & conserve water to prevent these from flowing into the sea (mixing with salt water)?
There are many questions that remain unanswered here.
PUB sure owes the public an explanation.:mad:
Regulators
18-06-10, 15:57
i don't think PUB can just conveniently push the blame to Act of God and not compensate in any way.
i don't think PUB can just conveniently push the blame to Act of God and not compensate in any way.
So the tenants and anyone being affected by the flood can sue PUB for damages?
When MRT train gets delayed due to technical fault, can all the passengers sue SMRT for damages eg. late for work and kena pay cut, late for appointment and customer walks away from a $100M deal?
proud owner
18-06-10, 16:56
So the tenants and anyone being affected by the flood can sue PUB for damages?
When MRT train gets delayed due to technical fault, can all the passengers sue SMRT for damages eg. late for work and kena pay cut, late for appointment and customer walks away from a $100M deal?
aiyo
after 45 years ...we should already know mah ..
govt make mistake ..they will say
its unforseen circumstances .. act of god ..
lets not point finger ..we should work towards preventing it from happening in the future
BUT when anyone else make the same mistake ..sure kana fine ..
Regulators
18-06-10, 23:31
cannot sue for loss of opportunity, can sue for negligence and if the negligence leads to property damage and subsequent loss of earnings resulting from damaged property. I was referring more to the retail outlets and restaurants where the flooding has caused damage.
So the tenants and anyone being affected by the flood can sue PUB for damages?
When MRT train gets delayed due to technical fault, can all the passengers sue SMRT for damages eg. late for work and kena pay cut, late for appointment and customer walks away from a $100M deal?
Regulators
18-06-10, 23:34
reminds me of the incident when falling trees killed 2 people at bukit batok nature park and the govt blamed it on act of god. they mean to say they have no way of determining whether the trees are unsafe when there are so many trees with skinny trunks that are 10 storeys high? Sometimes looking around me i see accidents waiting to happen, i just pity those families who are uneducated who don't know how to fight for the rights of their loved ones who are victims.
aiyo
after 45 years ...we should already know mah ..
govt make mistake ..they will say
its unforseen circumstances .. act of god ..
lets not point finger ..we should work towards preventing it from happening in the future
BUT when anyone else make the same mistake ..sure kana fine ..
If only PUB boss kena public grilling like BP ceo...haa haa:rolleyes:
reminds me of the incident when falling trees killed 2 people at bukit batok nature park and the govt blamed it on act of god. they mean to say they have no way of determining whether the trees are unsafe when there are so many trees with skinny trunks that are 10 storeys high? Sometimes looking around me i see accidents waiting to happen, i just pity those families who are uneducated who don't know how to fight for the rights of their loved ones who are victims.
In other countries, be it lamp post or tree or flood, there usually law suits...For the case of orchard road flood.. it asia and singapore...:D and it not our culture to sue:scared-5:
If only PUB boss kena public grilling like BP ceo...haa haa:rolleyes:
Perhaps because BP is not a government body?
I think it can be observed that despite of all the talks about world class service excellence, quality ranking, getting good talented people with highly rewarding pay, etc etc, many very important areas are slackened in one way or another and exposed one after another. what's next? it's worrying.
proud owner
21-06-10, 00:03
Perhaps because BP is not a government body?
I think it can be observed that despite of all the talks about world class service excellence, quality ranking, getting good talented people with highly rewarding pay, etc etc, many very important areas are slackened in one way or another and exposed one after another. what's next? it's worrying.
i said long time ago ..
we are NOT there yet (1st world) but everything is 1st world pricing
we are not a cosmopolitan yet but our properties are como price already
we are way ahead of ourselves
proud owner
21-06-10, 00:05
In other countries, be it lamp post or tree or flood, there usually law suits...For the case of orchard road flood.. it asia and singapore...:D and it not our culture to sue:scared-5:
if you drive a defective TOYOTA..which CANNOT stop ..
and you ramp into a lamp post .. you have to pay to repair/replace the lamp post .. even if its not your fault ..but a faulty vehicle ..
so in this case.. the flood was a result of choked drainage ...they claim heavy rain .. so not their fault ???
so ??? no need to pay already lor ??
This flood gate thing also caught my attention. My guess is, the flood gate are only activated on exceptional cases e.g. exceptional heavy rain on that day. Could it be, when the flood gate was being activated to prevent a potential flood at bukit timah (since it is prone to flooding), and by doing so additional water capacity was being channelled to orchard, and this contributed to orchard's flood? Of course the vegatation and debris are contributing factors too, but are they primary or secondary factors? Would orchard be flooded if the flood gate was not activated? Would there be less vegetation flowing to orchard if the flood gate was not activated? PUB should explain their findings clearly and not give bits and pieces information, personally i'm not quite convinced with their explanation.
Say if there are no flood gates installed, does that mean there is no need to manually operate the flood gate(s) and hence can actually alleviate &/or reduce all flooding in areas where previously there is no flooding but now do?
Are there flood gates previously?
What are these flood gates for since they actually worsen flooding if not opened?
Are these flood gates related to Marina Barrage where they are trying to store & conserve water to prevent these from flowing into the sea (mixing with salt water)?
There are many questions that remain unanswered here.
proud owner
25-06-10, 09:45
flood again
bkt timah - tan chong area
jurong - corporation rd
orchard - heard 2 lanes closed
proud owner
25-06-10, 09:46
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Posted: 25 June 2010 0911 hrs
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(File pic) Orchard Rd flood. YourNews contribution from Chow U-Jin
SINGAPORE: The heavy downpour Friday morning is causing chaos on the roads.
MediaCorp received several calls about floods.
Upper Thomson Road near the junction of Sin Ming Road is reported to be flooded.
Another area is Jalan Boon Lay in the direction of Corporation Road.
The downpour accompanied by gusty winds also caused branches to break off trees.
One such incident near Orchard Central along Orchard Road blocked two lanes of traffic.
The Meteorological Services Division had issued a heavy rain warning.
It said flash floods which could occur in low-lying areas.
bargain hunter
25-06-10, 09:51
alamak, was thinking of going somerset 313 or namly area for lunch...both areas jia lat. :doh:
flood again
bkt timah - tan chong area
jurong - corporation rd
orchard - heard 2 lanes closed
proud owner
25-06-10, 09:54
alamak, was thinking of going somerset 313 or namly area for lunch...both areas jia lat. :doh:
go Labrador park ..( high ground ) ... Olive restuarant or eat Seafood
go Pasir panjang ..eat duck rice
bargain hunter
25-06-10, 09:57
ah yes. my favourite duck rice. :)
go Labrador park ..( high ground ) ... Olive restuarant or eat Seafood
go Pasir panjang ..eat duck rice
proud owner
25-06-10, 10:03
ah yes. my favourite duck rice. :)
heard Tessarina car park flood AGAIN
....So much for once in 50 years kind of flood.....:doh:
bargain hunter
25-06-10, 14:25
Flash floods come to the neighbourhood
By yahoosingapore – June 25th, 2010
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http://yfittopostblogsg.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/twitter_flashfloodthomson.jpg?w=600 It seems “Orchard River” has come to an area near you.
Another torrential downpour early on Friday morning once again triggered flash floods across the island. However, this time, it seems Orchard Road was spared — instead areas like Upper Thomson Road, Bugis and Jalan Boon Lay seemed to be hardest hit.
Heavy rain was also reported in Changi, Eunos, Jurong East, Tampines and Sims Avenue.
A tree reported fell outside Orchard Central, near the Somerset MRT station on Orchard Road, blocking three of the five lanes. But no floods were reported in the shopping belt.
Channel News Asia also reported that SCDF personnel had to be called in to evacuate children from a childcare centre at Telok Kurau Lorong G. They were also helping to pump out water.
As expected, the downpour also caused morning rush hour traffic on all the major expressways in Singapore to come to a virtual standstill.
Social media sites like Facebook and micro-blogging site Twitter were awash with flood photos and users exchanging pictures. A dedicated channel, #sgflood, was also set up on Twitter for users to track each other’s comments and photos.
Twitter user artiwill said, “Maybe they should just dam “Sungei Thomson” on both ends and promote it as the next frontier of waterfront living.”
Another called DrenBoy quipped, “Who says Orchard has all the fun?” while nat_sora said “Yuan Ching Rd was a little river when I went through it 30 minutes ago!”
http://yfittopostblogsg.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/twitter_flashfloodgeylang2.jpg?w=640&h=480 (http://yfittopostblogsg.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/twitter_flashfloodgeylang2.jpg) Geylang Lorong 23 flooded (courtesy of @mooteh)
http://yfittopostblogsg.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/twitter_flashfloodcaltex.jpg?w=600&h=450 (http://yfittopostblogsg.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/twitter_flashfloodcaltex.jpg) Another photo from a Twitter user.
The heavy rain recalled last Wednesday’s massive floods in many areas of central Singapore, including Orchard Road where flooded basement carparks and shops caused businesses to lose millions of dollars.
On Thursday, the PUB announced that it is spending $25,000 to install five debris-trap gratings at Stamford Canal to prevent future floods. All five will be in place by today.
However, the spate of recent floods begs the question if there needs to be a major re-look and overhaul of the drainage system across the island.
Last year, Minister for Environment and Water Resources Yaacob Ibrahim described the flash foods at Bukit Timah as a “freak” event that happened “only once in 50 years”.
We’ve now had two in barely over a week.
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