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maisonjai

07-09-10, 15:22

errr.....i actually got a fren tat does tat....he bot a smallest unit in the Minton for wkends only so as to enjoy the facilities....tats wat he told me...i was like....hmmm

he said....'tan tio'....pay the least quantum and maintenance fee but goto enjoy all the same facilities....lol

humping pad? ( no offense :p ) interesting friend u got who couldn't resist '3 worlds' concept. 3worlds+1heaven:D

teddybear

07-09-10, 22:05

Wah! Luckily I always avoid those condos that even have some MM units (anything <700 sqft) (even though the condo estate have some are big units)!

One of the most ridiculous reason i heard from a guy whose gf is living in seletar landed area is that... the father wants to buy a small mickey mouse unit so they can use the facilities inside. Machiam buying a country club membership.

devilplate

08-09-10, 00:06

best if can rent to PR's...

Then come back and collect rent and use the facilities.

That's why avoid MM condo's.

it will apply to all all types of unit....go and collect rent and use facilities??? any landlords does tat here?:p

Komo

08-09-10, 00:10

bring kids, family, friends, maids,......:D

focus

08-09-10, 08:11

it will apply to all all types of unit....go and collect rent and use facilities??? any landlords does tat here?:p
Wa ..envy you man! :)
You got a few properties to go swimming and jogging every month:) Can choose...

Property_owner even more shiok .. it will probably take him near 1 year to finish jogging/swimming in each of his condo even if he does it every week.

bargain hunter

08-09-10, 08:49

From BT article on Jalan Eunos site today, "Analysts also highlighted that Far East's recent success at The Greenwich condo in the Seletar Hills area could also have spurred it to place a more optimistic bid (for Jalan Eunos site) yesterday. Since Aug 2, it has sold 216 units (one, two and three bedders) at an average selling price of $1,065 psf."

hyenergix

08-09-10, 09:17

As long as the government sets a population target of 6.5 million to provide a pool of tenants, there will still be demand for mass market 2-bed condo (< $1 mil). Reason is as follows:

Average household income (2 working adults in their 40s and 1 child): $7400
Less (1 child): -$1000
Less (food): -$1000
Less (parents): -$800
Less (bills & insurance): -$600
Less (transport): -$500
Less (misc): -$500
Savings: $3000

So if this family is still able to buy a condo, while renting out the existing 4-room HDB for $2500 p.m. (assuming already stayed for more than 5 years). I still see demand at current price for new 2 bed mass market condo due to ability to rent out the HDB or existing condo. They will probably view it as an investment for their child.

nav14

08-09-10, 09:36

One of the most ridiculous reason i heard from a guy whose gf is living in seletar landed area is that... the father wants to buy a small mickey mouse unit so they can use the facilities inside. Machiam buying a country club membership.

MCST rules generally do not allow Landlords to use facilities of a condo if their unit is leased out. Must hope the MCST is lax if want to buy a condo for this purpose or leave the unit vacant. Otherwise taking a chance.

DC33_2008

08-09-10, 09:48

I am rather unfamiliar with HDB ruling. Do you mean renting out the entire 4-room HDB unit? Has the restriction on owner has to stay in at least of the rooms lifted?
As long as the government sets a population target of 6.5 million to provide a pool of tenants, there will still be demand for mass market 2-bed condo (< $1 mil). Reason is as follows:

Average household income (2 working adults in their 40s and 1 child): $7400
Less (1 child): -$1000
Less (food): -$1000
Less (parents): -$800
Less (bills & insurance): -$600
Less (transport): -$500
Less (misc): -$500
Savings: $3000

So if this family is still able to buy a condo, while renting out the existing 4-room HDB for $2500 p.m. (assuming already stayed for more than 5 years). I still see demand at current price for new 2 bed mass market condo due to ability to rent out the HDB or existing condo. They will probably view it as an investment for their child.

teddybear

08-09-10, 09:52

It will apply to all types of units, but let's assume there are 100,000 sqft gross floor area to sell. Developers can build:
1) 83 units x 1200 sqft (3BR)
2) 250 units x 400 sqft (MM)

Each MM stays 2 people, each 3BR stays 4 people, this means:
1) 3BR -> 664 people may use the facilities
2) MM -> 1000 people may use the facilities! :doh:
So, there will be terrible over-crowding for condo estate with MM units!

it will apply to all all types of unit....go and collect rent and use facilities??? any landlords does tat here?:p

teddybear

08-09-10, 09:54

It will apply to all types of units, but let's assume there are 100,000 sqft gross floor area to sell. Developers can build:
1) 83 units x 1200 sqft (3BR)
2) 250 units x 400 sqft (MM)

Each MM stays 2 people, each 3BR stays 4 people, this means:
1) 3BR -> 531 people (reduced by 20% because they are too young to use the facilities) may use the facilities
2) MM -> 1000 people (all adults!) may use the facilities! :doh:
So, there will be terrible over-crowding for condo estate with MM units!

it will apply to all all types of unit....go and collect rent and use facilities??? any landlords does tat here?:p

hyenergix

08-09-10, 12:23

I am rather unfamiliar with HDB ruling. Do you mean renting out the entire 4-room HDB unit? Has the restriction on owner has to stay in at least of the rooms lifted?

As long as you satisfy the following conditions. Quite easily done for couples in their late 30s onwards.

http://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/fi10323p.nsf/w/RentOpenMktRentOutWholeFlat?OpenDocument

DC33_2008

08-09-10, 16:04

Thks. Got it now.
As long as you satisfy the following conditions. Quite easily done for couples in their late 30s onwards.

http://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/fi10323p.nsf/w/RentOpenMktRentOutWholeFlat?OpenDocument

Fleur

17-10-10, 01:36

I honestly think this project is way overpriced. The Aerospace story is over-sold.

d_p

21-10-10, 14:41

Think got leylong sale coming up 23 Oct Sat, brunch and drinks will be served.:cheers1:

2824

21-10-10, 16:05

unlikely leylong sale, thot they sold 20+ units last mth @ median of $13XX psf :tongue3:

Think got leylong sale coming up 23 Oct Sat, brunch and drinks will be served.:cheers1:

d_p

21-10-10, 19:15

unlikely leylong sale, thot they sold 20+ units last mth @ median of $13XX psf :tongue3:

Wow impressive! $13xx psf:scared-1: .Lookslike ppl are still willing to pay high price for project away from mrt. Can't really understand, what's so good about the place coz some units directly facing the telecoms bldg and yet snapup.:doh: .

2824

22-10-10, 09:41

Is that old telecom building still in use? think the 13xx psf is mainly from the 1 bedders...

Wow impressive! $13xx psf:scared-1: .Lookslike ppl are still willing to pay high price for project away from mrt. Can't really understand, what's so good about the place coz some units directly facing the telecoms bldg and yet snapup.:doh: .

devilplate

22-10-10, 10:00

FEO very hiong in upping their prices...

wesing

22-10-10, 10:26

It is indeed comforting to know Greenwich selling at $13xx psf. I had initially regretted buying my 2-bedder at cube 8 at $1300 psf. But the high price tag and take-up for new launches (despite the Aug 30 measures) just reassured me that I am not the biggest sucker of this real estate bubble:D

d_p

22-10-10, 12:03

Is that old telecom building still in use? think the 13xx psf is mainly from the 1 bedders...

Telecom bldg not in use anymore but occasionally can see telecoms loti van park there. Can go checkout what their trick this time, if not go for free :hungry: since FE is soooo generous.

Fleur

22-10-10, 13:06

I wonder if people know really what they are getting into. The Seletar Aerospace Park may be up and coming, but the jobs created there are and should be mainly be for locals. The majority will not be expatriates, if not, why bother having the foreign investment in Singapore at all, when the companies are trying to minimise operational costs? Most of the expatriates should be quite senior level, ie GM, Operational Manager, not the junior ones who will stay in MM in a suburb area. Also, these jobs created are not mainly for the highly paid licensed aircraft maintenence engineers!

rattydrama

22-10-10, 13:34

Far East seems to be making their mark in their pricing. This is good news to investor who are looking at new projects but for long term, it is the average price that counts for condos selling in the same vicinity.

With the new ruling next year, can FE still hold on to those unsold units and dont sell them? Will the rulings have any impact on fuure pricing? Garment seems to know that they are the main curprit for keeping the perceive price high.

A project must have upside potential then it is safer to invest.

mcmlxxvi

22-10-10, 14:55

I was also thinking about the 'must sell' ruling when looking at FEO... will there be some fire sales of FEO projects coming up? Like Tanglin View etc which they have held for over 10 years some industrial tech park in Eunos etc.

rattydrama

22-10-10, 15:01

Yep I remembered Tanglin View took very long. Adv was on papers for so many years and was too young to understand why. why huh?

mcmlxxvi

22-10-10, 15:14

Yep I remembered Tanglin View took very long. Adv was on papers for so many years and was too young to understand why. why huh?

'Was' too young to understand why... but now you not young anymore right? How come still don't understand... haha...

Actually FEO can hold their pricing. They will never lelong their units and they tend to price their projects PRIME and HIGH from the get go. Just look at The Sound at Telok Kurau area. In the past there is no limitation how long you can hold those units unsold - they actually just rent out as serviced apartments or what - but now they cannot.

I don't think they can hold their atas pricing with the new ruling - unless some sucker fanatic go and bite their overpriced nehneh cherry....

rattydrama

22-10-10, 15:47

That means Far East started their atas pricing since 10 years ago. In those days, FEO not so famous of their atas pricing but their workmanship.

That is why was asking whats wrong with this Tanglin project.

My young means young in property investment. Anyway Im still young.

So beware of buying into FEO high price now...may not hold. But maybe FEO will transfer those balance unsold units to their sister company dealing with rental & investment & rent out. Not against the law right?

'Was' too young to understand why... but now you not young anymore right? How come still don't understand... haha...

Actually FEO can hold their pricing. They will never lelong their units and they tend to price their projects PRIME and HIGH from the get go. Just look at The Sound at Telok Kurau area. In the past there is no limitation how long you can hold those units unsold - they actually just rent out as serviced apartments or what - but now they cannot.

I don't think they can hold their atas pricing with the new ruling - unless some sucker fanatic go and bite their overpriced nehneh cherry....

Latio

27-10-10, 10:18

Serenity Park, Nim Gardens are better buy then GREENWICH.

:spliff2:

devilplate

27-10-10, 10:26

Far East is a foreign coy???

if purely a local entity...they can still hold till next generation:p

azeoprop

27-10-10, 11:35

URA just released a land parcel behind greenwich for sale... I bet FEO will bid for that. :tsk-tsk:

http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/text/2010/pr10-124.html

fan

27-10-10, 11:41

It's like playing Monopoly

2824

27-10-10, 17:36

Bet it will be hottly contested, but credit has to go to far east for making the $1300 psf an illusion a reality.

URA just released a land parcel behind greenwich for sale... I bet FEO will bid for that. :tsk-tsk:

http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/text/2010/pr10-124.html

pupboy

27-10-10, 17:56

Instead of paying so much for a small unit of 99LH, I think old project e.g
Nim Garden of Freehold land is definitely a much better buy !

focus

27-10-10, 18:42

Instead of paying so much for a small unit of 99LH, I think old project e.g
Nim Garden of Freehold land is definitely a much better buy !
Agreed. Even the new landed project like Luxus Hill (i believed it's 999LH) is going for under <$1100psf(if i'm not wrong.. i can't remember the numbers.. )

rios

27-10-10, 22:47

.................................

rios

27-10-10, 22:49

wow the new site is behind greenwich...block the greenwich condo....

become sandwich condo.. block by shopping mall and condo..

2824

01-11-10, 12:49

Went to Greenwich over the weekend, no crowd.
Agent say now at P2, with only about 15 units left. P3 will be launched nearer the TOP.

Studios are going from $850k, but FEO really throw in quite a bit of furnishing, kitchen appliances, bedding in home shelter, build up for the SOHOs. But with 70% 1 - 2 bedder, i think the 3 bedders (regular and compact) would be good value for money and possibly face less comprtition for resale in future.

The real trump card would be the plot of land behind this, unless FEO gets it again :doh:

devilplate

01-11-10, 13:07

2824

01-11-10, 13:58

Then if that is the case the winners:im-so-happy: will be those who bought in the first pharse (apart from FEO) ...

FEO definitely put in a high bid to support its GW baby

devilplate

01-11-10, 15:37

Then if that is the case the winners:im-so-happy: will be those who bought in the first pharse (apart from FEO) ...

ooo....den everyone in this forum missed the boat hor? :ashamed1:

d_p

16-12-10, 20:51

Free ham and turkey this saturday again:cheers1: ! Lookslike Fareast worried got competition coming up soon at adjacent plot. Hope price will be adjusted to a reasonable figure. Otherwise adjacent plot also not too bad but with such high bid at 123 mil, guess it is not going to be below 1k psf either.:banghead:. Better to just go there for free turkey! :cheers3:

proud owner

16-12-10, 21:08

rios

21-04-11, 22:01

no news of this project anymore???

d_p

26-04-11, 12:50

no news of this project anymore???

http://www.fareast.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/TheGreenwich(TowerB)(20Apr2011).pdf

:banghead:

Hopefully the other plot more reasonable priced....

rios

26-04-11, 21:02

heard now they offer shuttle bus services for GW owner

kingkong1984

22-05-11, 13:56

Saw advertisements for 1 bedder below purchase price. What is happening?

Lovelle

22-05-11, 14:00

in sunday times ?

ysyap

22-05-11, 14:03

Saw advertisements for 1 bedder below purchase price. What is happening?Price softening transition...:D

kingkong1984

22-05-11, 14:15

in sunday times ?
Classifieds

jwong71

22-05-11, 14:32

Saw advertisements for 1 bedder below purchase price. What is happening?

saw 1206sqft 1bedder with patio for 730k(NEG!!!).

the size can reno to 2bedder easily.:D

devilplate

22-05-11, 14:50

saw 1206sqft 1bedder with patio for 730k(NEG!!!).

the size can reno to 2bedder easily.:D
Wat r u waiting for? Firesale! Haha

jwong71

22-05-11, 14:53

Wat r u waiting for? Firesale! Haha

he bgt at 300k.. nan, im not wanna being a sucker to carry his baby.

kane

22-05-11, 15:16

he bgt at 300k.. nan, im not wanna being a sucker to carry his baby.

paid 300k for 1206sqft with PES? can't be that cheap right?

jwong71

22-05-11, 15:18

paid 300k for 1206sqft with PES? can't be that cheap right?

in 2009 ba.. when market crash, unit with patio turn worthless.

kane

22-05-11, 15:20

in 2009 ba.. when market crash, unit with patio turn worthless.

greenwich was launched after the crisis no? even if half of it was patio also can't be 300k. moreover we're talking about FEO here.

jwong71

22-05-11, 15:22

greenwich was launched after the crisis no? even if half of it was patio also can't be 300k. moreover we're talking about FEO here.

the lighthouse 1206sqft #01-08 04/09/2009 $300,000..

anyone wf caveat access, pls verify my infor. thkq

*pls type "lighthouse" in the caveat column to search

amk

22-05-11, 15:24

in 2009 ba.. when market crash, unit with patio turn worthless.

Did u mix up with something else ? No unit in this project was sold that low.

jwong71

22-05-11, 15:25

Did u mix up with something else ? No unit in this project was sold that low.

nope... type in lighthouse, 1206sqft, #01-08. thank you

amk

22-05-11, 15:29

nope... type in lighthouse, 1206sqft, #01-08. thank you

This thread is called "Greenwich @ Seletar", what lighthouse ? :confused:

More over, this was launched in 2010! What 2009 price ?

jwong71

22-05-11, 15:31

This thread is called "Greenwich @ Seletar", what lighthouse ? :confused:

sorry im replying to someone's else post, on some firesale.
and the owner's purchase price.

sorry, not relevant to this tread

http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=161711&postcount=300

kingkong1984

22-05-11, 15:33

Someone seeing light at the end of the tunnel.. Light.... Light it up.... U light my fire.....

Teana

17-06-11, 22:57

Record $1,499 psf developer sale in May.

ysyap

17-06-11, 23:00

Record $1,499 psf developer sale in May.D19 will not lose out to Tampines and is fast catching up with Balestier... Hmmm... scary! :scared-1:

2824

25-11-11, 14:41

Passed by recently and saw the commercial portion more or less completed, think can top b4 x'mas. Think the construction only started late last year. Can't wait for it to be up and running.

ysyap

25-11-11, 16:18

Passed by recently and saw the commercial portion more or less completed, think can top b4 x'mas. Think the construction only started late last year. Can't wait for it to be up and running.TOP unlikely before Christmas. Less than a month? More likely before CNY. :o Can't wait to patronize the commercial shops... Will they open up the commercial spaces before the residential area?

2824

25-11-11, 21:16

TOP unlikely before Christmas. Less than a month? More likely before CNY. :o Can't wait to patronize the commercial shops... Will they open up the commercial spaces before the residential area?
Dun think the residential units going to top anytime soon. I previously heard from agent that commercial side will top b4 this year but dink quite believe it then.

ahsoh88

25-11-11, 21:30

Confirmed, the Greenwich commercial Shopping will be up mid Jan 2012.
Cheer Seletar Estate Neighbourhood !

Kenshinto80

25-11-11, 23:15

ysyap

26-11-11, 05:24

There is another commercial shopping mall coming up at nearby fernvale. Residents of Greenwich and Seletar Estate will be spoilt for choice. Looks like the owners who bought at initial launch from Far East got a good deal after all.Those landed properties staying behind Greenwich also got a very good deal. From no shops to very nice shops! Cedele here I come! :D

ahsoh88

26-11-11, 08:26

Hope to see psf moving up at Seletar soon, how abt those old condo like Mimosa and Nim? Worth buying or not ?

ysyap

26-11-11, 10:58

Hope to see psf moving up at Seletar soon, how abt those old condo like Mimosa and Nim? Worth buying or not ?Nim is superb minus location... Its super quiet plus huge area and fullest condo facilities. The pool is bigger than big... LOL! :o

devilplate

26-11-11, 11:17

for condo/apts, accessibility is very impt especially for OCR

aim the landed over there better....ulu also nvm

cl0ver

27-11-11, 11:07

There is another commercial shopping mall coming up at nearby fernvale. Residents of Greenwich and Seletar Estate will be spoilt for choice. Looks like the owners who bought at initial launch from Far East got a good deal after all.

Best will be those Fernvale HDBs.... can go Greenwich, can go Jalan Kayu can go new Fernvale Shopping, can go Sengkang Stadium, can go PCN which connects all the way to Punggol Marina!

kane

27-11-11, 11:10

I would have preferred a NTUC rather than Cold Storage.

devilplate

27-11-11, 11:33

I would have preferred a NTUC rather than Cold Storage.
Y not ntuc xtra....self stay or rental also goodie

ysyap

27-11-11, 11:34

I would have preferred a NTUC rather than Cold Storage.There is already a NTUC at Fernvale. This is not Hougang Mall where two NTUCs are only 150m apart! LOL! ;)

kane

27-11-11, 14:17

Y not ntuc xtra....self stay or rental also goodie

The plot not big enough. Unless they become the sole tenant of the whole retail atrium!

ysyap

28-11-11, 06:28

Furthermore, NUTC may not want to set up their store in this area because evidently, there is a lack in volume of potential patrons. Number of residents in this estate probably is less than that in the whole of Fervale and NTUC only had a very small outlet in Fervale. Buangkok's branch is only slightly bigger and its serving a larger community there. The rest is ... :D

kane

28-11-11, 07:44

If they believe in the crowd, they will operate 2 outlets really closely. Like within AMK central itself, there are now 2 NTUC. One is a 24hr outlet. 7eleven is pretty dead.

2824

28-11-11, 08:26

I would have preferred a NTUC rather than Cold Storage.
Cold storage would make the place resemble Holland V more mah :p

2824

31-12-11, 14:51

The commercial portion is up and running. Cold storage and guardian are already opened, although most of the food establishment will only be up next month.

mcmlxxvi

31-12-11, 17:26

Cold storage would make the place resemble Holland V more mah :p
Actually Heartland Mall also Cold Storage. So how atas is it really...

ysyap

31-12-11, 21:03

Noticed that there are actually different type of cold storage... the one in Pomo v different from the one in Compass Pt... Hmmm... example the bananas there in Pomo is so nice and yellow without blemish but those I find in CP is of much lower quality :tsk-tsk: but both also Cold Storage wat.. :confused:

Just like NTUC got Finest, Extra and Fair Price... :o

Eastboy

31-12-11, 21:32

Jason's best

ysyap

01-01-12, 00:38

So now we can jalan into Greenwich village to patronize their shops? Good ah... :D

2824

02-01-12, 23:43

Actually Heartland Mall also Cold Storage. So how atas is it really...
Heartland mall got one too many underwear shops :doh:

cl0ver

09-01-12, 20:12

ysyap

09-01-12, 20:17

The food court there expensive ah! almost $4-$5 price range...
Also have:

-Toast Box
- Coffee Bean
- BBQ Chicken
- Old Chang Kee
- EzyVideo
- Some cake shop
- 7 Eleven
- Prima Deli (not opened)
- Paradise Inn (not opened)
- Empire State (not opened)Lol! So I'm right... there's old chang kee coz vaguely saw it when driving along the road... so where did u park when you want to go there? In the nearby landed estate? Or you already staying nearby.... Lol!

mcmlxxvi

09-01-12, 20:49

Heartland mall got one too many underwear shops :doh:

Is it? Maybe i auto censor out... I only patronis the posb, cold storage, kfc, sushi and bubble tea there...

evergreen

09-01-12, 20:59

mantrix

10-01-12, 00:07

Give me sheng shiong anytime! Checking out is four times as fast as at cold storage and things are cheaper than at ntuc. One good thing about holand v cold storage is it runs 24 hours - but queue can be rather long at midnight too.

sheng siong's quality is suspect and they subject the live animals to plenty of abuse...I will never go for them. cheap is not everything

buttercarp

15-04-12, 11:17

Was at Greenwich V yesterday.
There were lots of housing agents there...........
at the entrance of the carpark, at the entrance of the mall and inside the mall.....

carbuncle

15-04-12, 12:16

Was at Greenwich V yesterday.
There were lots of housing agents there...........
at the entrance of the carpark, at the entrance of the mall and inside the mall.....
Why? I thought they only left one block... The worst block that totally blocked from all sides...

ahsoh88

15-04-12, 13:51

Tpt Minister Mr Lui visited Greenwich V at Seletar estate this morning !

buttercarp

15-04-12, 15:07

Tpt Minister Mr Lui visited Greenwich V at Seletar estate this morning !

Really....official trip or just go there for Sunday brunch?

ahsoh88

15-04-12, 15:17

I heard is official trip accompanied by Seletar MP Ang and group of reporters !

ysyap

15-04-12, 21:28

I heard is official trip accompanied by Seletar MP Ang and group of reporters !So what is the occasion? Is it the official opening of Greenwich Village?

kane

15-04-12, 21:50

Why visit that place? So sparsely populated.

solsys

15-04-12, 22:06

Why visit that place? So sparsely populated.

Less crowded atas place for MP to breathe after all the mrt breakdown stress.

cl0ver

15-04-12, 22:09

maybe he wanted to drive down saraca road to see the bronze statues and some wooden ox on display....

ysyap

15-04-12, 22:13

I heard is official trip accompanied by Seletar MP Ang and group of reporters !So what official trip has Kallang Moulmein MP teaming up with Seletar MP at Seletar? Hmmm... :rolleyes:

carbuncle

16-04-12, 13:35

So what official trip has Kallang Moulmein MP teaming up with Seletar MP at Seletar? Hmmm... :rolleyes:
Both to merge as single GRC next election

rios

14-07-12, 07:25

There will be a seletar mall coming up soon!!!

Akan datang!!!:)

lifeline

14-07-12, 07:59

There will be a seletar mall coming up soon!!!
Akan datang!!!:)

Where will it be located?

rios

14-07-12, 19:47

Within walking distance from greenwich

lifeline

14-07-12, 20:07

Where will it be located?

found it. junction of sengkang west ave and fernvale road.

http://thefinance.sg/
http://tinyurl.com/8yoe8wa
http://tinyurl.com/7pwvtfm
http://tinyurl.com/6wp7qt4

ysyap

16-07-12, 06:28

Good news for all staying in the vicinity. Greenwich V is just one too many eatery. A mall probably provides more variety of shops! :cheers6:

lifeline

22-07-12, 18:59

Does anyone or owner know where is the rubbish collection centre & power substation exactly? also any ebrochure avaIl? cannot find these on the net. Thanks!

rios

31-07-12, 12:23

ya, i also duno where is it.... underground??? haa

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3) sabotage via throwing rubbish in your doorstep
4) stealing of your subscriped newspaper
5) loan shark knocking or sabotage at Wrong unit

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