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aiya stay HDB lah!:D
yeah agree...if you need amenities and transport , there are alot of HDBs which are near shopping and public transports...if got transport , own stay at treehouse is good, alot of trees around treehouse...fresh air and peaceful as ulu...
yeah agree...if you need amenities and transport , there are alot of HDBs which are near shopping and public transports...if got transport , own stay at treehouse is good, alot of trees around treehouse...fresh air and peaceful as ulu...
Yup good place to stay after retirement ;)
Yup good place to stay after retirement ;)
don't think so.. I think Bukit Villas area is much better.... cheaper and better. Its like out of this world, isolated... need cars and servants.
it's just amusing to see 1350 sft is now considered "large" ....
once upon a time I thought 1500 sqft was the norm, and 2000 sqft is called large. :)
we are reaching HK standard soon: 1000 sqft is considered large there ;)
wise words...
using HDB as standard.. the size is getting smaller also...
the new standard now in my opinion will be
1 bedder 500 sqf +s + what not
2 bedder 750 sqf
3 bedder 1000 sqf
4 bedder 1250 sqf
Penthosues 1500 sqf
it will get smaller again.
wise words...
using HDB as standard.. the size is getting smaller also...
the new standard now in my opinion will be
1 bedder 500 sqf +s + what not
2 bedder 750 sqf
3 bedder 1000 sqf
4 bedder 1250 sqf
Penthosues 1500 sqf
it will get smaller again.
Ya not only smaller in sqft but bigger psf to pay :banghead:
There also some private estates near shopping and MRT stations (but just less). Aren't these just more valuable if people want to living in private? Why buy ulu private unless they are bungalows?
yeah agree...if you need amenities and transport , there are alot of HDBs which are near shopping and public transports...if got transport , own stay at treehouse is good, alot of trees around treehouse...fresh air and peaceful as ulu...
Not only that,
the new standard new are with:
1 bedder 500 sqf +s + what not (include 75 sqft planter areas & balconies & bay windows)
2 bedder 750 sqf (include 113 sqft planter areas & balconies & bay windows) => usable area = 637 sqft!
3 bedder 1000 sqf (include 150 sqft planter areas & balconies & bay windows) => usable area = 850 sqft!
4 bedder 1250 sqf (include 188 sqft planter areas & balconies & bay windows)
Penthosues 1500 sqf (include 225 sqft planter areas & balconies & bay windows)
wise words...
using HDB as standard.. the size is getting smaller also...
the new standard now in my opinion will be
1 bedder 500 sqf +s + what not
2 bedder 750 sqf
3 bedder 1000 sqf
4 bedder 1250 sqf
Penthosues 1500 sqf
it will get smaller again.
Not only that,
the new standard new are with:
1 bedder 500 sqf +s + what not (include 75 sqft planter areas & balconies & bay windows)
2 bedder 750 sqf (include 113 sqft planter areas & balconies & bay windows) => usable area = 637 sqft!
3 bedder 1000 sqf (include 150 sqft planter areas & balconies & bay windows) => usable area = 850 sqft!
4 bedder 1250 sqf (include 188 sqft planter areas & balconies & bay windows)
Penthosues 1500 sqf (include 225 sqft planter areas & balconies & bay windows)
Woo.... been away for a while... have to agree with teddybear and cashrich... cash is king now.... durians are falling....
Woo.... been away for a while... have to agree with teddybear and cashrich... cash is king now.... durians are falling....
Looking for Cash? :P
anyone know the construction work progress?
bargain hunter
07-10-10, 20:42
SINGAPORE : The Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) has received nine bids at the close of a tender on Thursday for a residential site at Petir Road.
The highest bid of about S$177.4 million came from Wincheer Investment.
This was followed by Sim Lian Land and Kwan Hwee Investment, which both submitted a bid of around S$173.8 million.
The lowest bid came from Teambuild Land at S$103 million.
Real Estate consultancy CBRE Research said the tender for the land parcel, which is about 10 minutes' walk from Pending LRT station, received a good response.
Leonard Tay, director of CBRE Research, said: "The quantum of the bids indicates that the developers are optimistic about the location of this site, given the sell-out of 429-unit Tree House condominium – adjacent to the subject property – during the second quarter of 2010.
"The top bid of S$177.4 million reflects S$345 psf/plot ratio and translates to a breakeven cost of S$680 psf to S$700 psf."
He added that units in the new development will likely sell for above S$800 psf. The adjacent Tree House project was launched at an average S$830 psf in April 2010, while units at Mi Casa, a new project at Choa Chu Kang Avenue 3, were sold at S$700-850 psf in July-September 2010, Mr Tay said.
The Petir Road site has an area of some 22,744 square metres and a maximum permissible gross floor area of 47,763 square metres.
The site was launched for public tender on August 31 and has a lease period of 99 years.
URA said it will award the tender after the bids have been evaluated.
kingkong1984
24-10-10, 19:39
The breakeven price is like new EC prices. Looks attractive already.
Update
Completed % : 2.5
Expected TOP: 1Q 2013
wait long long :sleep:
flagship74
05-04-11, 22:54
Update
Completed % : 2.5
Expected TOP: 1Q 2013
wait long long :sleep:
I thought the expected TOP date is 2014?:tsk-tsk:
bargain hunter
06-04-11, 01:12
construction tends to be faster than the earliest expected TOP date given.
I thought the expected TOP date is 2014?:tsk-tsk:
flagship74
06-04-11, 12:23
construction tends to be faster than the earliest expected TOP date given.
But dont you think abit too early..Proposed T.O.P End 2014?:scared-5:
But dont you think abit too early..Proposed T.O.P End 2014?:scared-5:
They adjusted again... now is 4Q 2013
flagship74
11-04-11, 18:43
They adjusted again... now is 4Q 2013
Oh.. Thanks for the info:)
I guess none will come onto the market despite the optimistic pricing in the neighbouring development unless the owners are desprate to offload...with the stamp duty penalty at a hefty 16%.
kingkong1984
17-04-11, 18:56
Existing owners will ask themselves, why sell and get another and be caught with SSD. No choice then sell lor or if profit margin reached.
It's a step ahead from those who have exercised after 13 Jan 11.
flagship74
18-04-11, 17:44
I guess none will come onto the market despite the optimistic pricing in the neighbouring development unless the owners are desprate to offload...with the stamp duty penalty at a hefty 16%.
I don't think the treehouse owner will be affected by the 16% SSD if there want to offload their units:)
..so any units started progressive payment yet?
flagship74
02-05-11, 21:40
:)
..so any units started progressive payment yet?
I hv a frz whom bot a unit at tree house..he mentioned the payment did not kick start yet
...looks like developers do not start asking for money as soon as they finished piling, piling works seemed to have been completed, and core structure is beginning to come out in the block nearest to the park..
1 unit transacted in May 2011 for $1.18M/$945psf......more coming?
flagship74
28-05-11, 22:43
1 unit transacted in May 2011 for $1.18M/$945psf......more coming?
I guess most of the investors/buyers will stay sideline awaiting for the new measures from garment..:cheers6:
Anyone got update of the work progress?
Btw, how good is the contractor?
Progress payment started liao. :2cents:
Eco-Link...all the monkeys coming to tree house! :spliff:
Anyone got update of the work progress?
Btw, how good is the contractor?
Progress payment started liao. :2cents:
Basement work laid, 3 blocks are stacking up, tallest about second storey so far.........lowest atill at basement.
Eco-Link...all the monkeys coming to tree house! :spliff:
the link is on the other side twds Bt Timah rsv.....monkeys still have to cross daisry farm rd.......
Basement work laid, 3 blocks are stacking up, tallest about second storey so far.........lowest atill at basement.
Thank you! Got photo? :)
Thank you! Got photo? :)
went cycling at zhenghua, did not have cam...mayb next trip
went cycling at zhenghua, did not have cam...mayb next trip
Thank you so much!
...was passing by just now, one block is already up to level 5, lowest block is at level 1, with prefab walls, the blocks should be up in no time.
flagship74
03-09-11, 10:55
...was passing by just now, one block is already up to level 5, lowest block is at level 1, with prefab walls, the blocks should be up in no time.
Notice that the sub-sale px have dropped.. why is that so?:beats-me-man:
kingkong1984
03-09-11, 11:10
Subsale...
Look at number of transactions....
Then look at the profit margin....
And also look at days on the market...
Then look at the causes....
New developments doing?
Then u know the cooling measures are working. The meat goes to developers and not investors. See results after 4 years later.
..next door foresque still doing ok....but do not have figure after the recent release of more units last weekend.
..next door foresque still doing ok....but do not have figure after the recent release of more units last weekend.
Foresque...87% of released units sold so far.
Foresque...87% of released units sold so far.
...thats quite high despite the price.....but lots of doom sayers nowadays....
...thats quite high despite the price.....but lots of doom sayers nowadays....
I was watching this one...sale percentage caught me by surprise, too.
Anyway, Treehouse buyers rescued by Foresque oredi. Price support is there...
flagship74
05-09-11, 16:38
I was watching this one...sale percentage caught me by surprise, too.
Anyway, Treehouse buyers rescued by Foresque oredi. Price support is there...
There another plot of land adjacent to Tree house, that will definitely sunk both of them..:D
There another plot of land adjacent to Tree house, that will definitely sunk both of them..:D
Sink or swim...many factors involved.
Can watch the winning tender for this plot before coming to conclusion.
A lot of people predicted fall in prices for this year...till now...has not materialised.
Anyway, Treehouse buyers... HUAT AH!!!
flagship74
05-09-11, 23:04
Sink or swim...many factors involved.
Can watch the winning tender for this plot before coming to conclusion.
A lot of people predicted fall in prices for this year...till now...has not materialised.
Anyway, Treehouse buyers... HUAT AH!!!
I can feel that you are very optimistic! Gd one:cheers6:
kingkong1984
05-09-11, 23:56
Sink or swim...many factors involved.
Can watch the winning tender for this plot before coming to conclusion.
A lot of people predicted fall in prices for this year...till now...has not materialised.
Anyway, Treehouse buyers... HUAT AH!!!
price has indeed fallen and number of subsale transactions fell :tsk-tsk:
price has indeed fallen and number of subsale transactions fell :tsk-tsk:
U still don't get it. :doh:
kingkong1984
06-09-11, 08:34
U still don't get it. :doh:
ok I sing another tune...
prices has hit record high and it is the best time to buy now~ :tongue3:
price has indeed fallen and number of subsale transactions fell :tsk-tsk:
ok I sing another tune...
prices has hit record high and it is the best time to buy now~ :tongue3:
nay, or should I read your earlier comments like that:
"price has indeed fallen and"
"it is the best time to buy now~"
:doh:
kingkong1984
07-09-11, 06:09
Read in between the lines.. I sing a different tune sometimes. To confuse!
So wat do u mean as I still dun get it? Dun buy? Get wat?
Read in between the lines.. I sing a different tune sometimes. To confuse!
To confuse...or TOO confuse?
still don't get it? :tsk-tsk:
Thank you! Got photo? :)
Images taken 12 february: Pict 1-4
Images taken 11 September : The rest
images showing progress over the last 7 months
http://www.flickr.com/photos/danntbt/sets/72157627537329135/
Images taken 12 february: Pict 1-4
Images taken 11 September : The rest
images showing progress over the last 7 months
http://www.flickr.com/photos/danntbt/sets/72157627537329135/
.....guess its obvious that I have vested interest in this one, getting it to stay so fluctuation is a non-issue in reality, just figures on paper. Wil update for the benefit of other owners/investors.
Anyway based on the images, the fear that the adjacent road will be higher than the development is a non issue as level one of Blk 66 and 68 are raised by the basement car-park, and is leveled with the road.
Wild Falcon
14-09-11, 10:15
Congrats. I really think this is a very pretty development compared to recent launches. Some of the recent launch looks like HDB flats in parallel rows (latest trend e.g. Thomson Grand and Teasure Trove) all cluttered together.
.....guess its obvious that I have vested interest in this one, getting it to stay so fluctuation is a non-issue in reality, just figures on paper. Wil update for the benefit of other owners/investors.
Anyway based on the images, the fear that the adjacent road will be higher than the development is a non issue as level one of Blk 66 and 68 are raised by the basement car-park, and is leveled with the road.
devilplate
14-09-11, 12:53
progress abit slow....
progress abit slow....
Ya in comparison to the Estuary which was sold out at around the same period, but it has speeded up in recent months. It took them a year from being sold out to reach the piling completion stage in the middle of this year. And they call for the 1st progressive payment only recently.
flagship74
14-09-11, 17:53
Ya in comparison to the Estuary which was sold out at around the same period, but it has speeded up in recent months. It took them a year from being sold out to reach the piling completion stage in the middle of this year. And they call for the 1st progressive payment only recently.
What's the TOP period now?:beats-me-man:
What's the TOP period now?:beats-me-man:
...you bought a unit there too?
No idea, but the blocks should be up in no time as the walls are prefab........just build floors and piece the wall together.
...you bought a unit there too?
No idea, but the blocks should be up in no time as the walls are prefab........just build floors and piece the wall together.
Based on CDL construction update as at June 2011, TOP is Q3 2013
check: http://www.cdl.com.sg/app/cdl/customers/homebuyer_services/top_progress.xml
- next update on 30 sept 2011.
Images taken 12 february: Pict 1-4
Images taken 11 September : The rest
images showing progress over the last 7 months
http://www.flickr.com/photos/danntbt/sets/72157627537329135/
Thanks bro! :)
flagship74
15-09-11, 10:09
Based on CDL construction update as at June 2011, TOP is Q3 2013
check: http://www.cdl.com.sg/app/cdl/customers/homebuyer_services/top_progress.xml
- next update on 30 sept 2011.
Thanks bro:)
The land next to TH across Chestnut Ave is now open for tender....the projected PSF is expected to be higher...
The land next to TH across Chestnut Ave is now open for tender....the projected PSF is expected to be higher...
Winning bid not out yet...how to project?
Foresque buyers will be rescued if psf really higher!
Winning bid not out yet...how to project?
Foresque buyers will be rescued if psf really higher!
closing date 24 Nov....foresque was below $400.
anyone passed by? Got photo update? :)
anyone passed by? Got photo update? :)
passed by on Saturday, did not have suitable camera as was carrying my big gun for shooting birds.....but the towers are shooting up.....
according to CDL update:
Tree House
Chestnut Avenue
Condo
99 years from 23 Nov 2009
14.8% completed
Q3 2013
flagship74
24-10-11, 10:41
anyone passed by? Got photo update? :)
Ok here the photo mastrix..
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http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6213/6291530066_2e41d34b0b_b.jpg
As seen on the image, the units are leveled to match the slope......
from left, blk 68,66 and 60. Blk 62 is hidden behind Blk 66....the blocks are spread out and look breezy...going by the last post, the blocks are stacking up one floor every week.
I was trying to see the other side of Blk 60, the side facing Foresque, but quite hard, block by the hoarding.
But its good that the blocks are all widely spread out. Nice Nice!! :)
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6049/6293137880_71f521ecb8_b.jpg
Block 60 from Zhenghua park
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6098/6292614753_b7fc8634b2_b.jpg
Block 62
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6093/6292614227_7146b6fcdc_b.jpg
Block 68
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6108/6292613721_f7ed71a96d_b.jpg
View from Chestnut Ave
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6233/6292612549_978906b718_b.jpg
Blk 66 with Blk 60 in the background, as you can see, the ground floor is level with the road.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6042/6293132514_0047b909c8_b.jpg
clubhouse site
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6036/6292609195_b2e7082283_b.jpg
Swimming pool area with Foresque rising behind
danntbt, u damn amazing! :cheers5:
Hi, mastrix, ...so u bought a unit at block 60 facing Foresque?
Hi, mastrix, ...so u bought a unit at block 60 facing Foresque?
not me...my parents. Blk 60, too small for my stay. How about u? ;)
Ya got a 3 bedder for own stay, could not afford bigger one.
Ya got a 3 bedder for own stay, could not afford bigger one.
Which block u got?
66, facing the site up for sales...but doubt it will face them directly as 66 faces the corner of that piece of land.
u mean along the Chestnut Ave, the piece of land on the left (right is TH), is on sales now?
ok, just saw URA website about the land sales.
hope got good news after 24 Nov. :D
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6094/6300169448_f043221b0f_b.jpg
....we'll see...Foresque prices still holding above 1K, but seems to be holding back the rest of the units having sold about 40% of total units..
But this site is perhaps the best of the lot in the area being on higher ground and flanked by a park on 2 sides, except the chestnut apt might just go en bloc eventually.
More concrete jungle. :scared-5:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6094/6300169448_f043221b0f_b.jpg
....we'll see...Foresque prices still holding above 1K, but seems to be holding back the rest of the units having sold about 40% of total units..
But this site is perhaps the best of the lot in the area being on higher ground and flanked by a park on 2 sides, except the chestnut apt might just go en bloc eventually.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6099/6336204801_3d5b09934f_b.jpg
Block 60 facing Foresque
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6100/6336204209_8f3cb37328_b.jpg
Block 60 facing Chestnut Ave
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6051/6336960676_bc71b353e9_b.jpg
Block 60 central column, note the bracket to attached the vertical plant canopy
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6098/6336960678_796b6eddc3_b.jpg
Block 60Close-up view of kitchen/service balcony side
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6056/6336960668_bce7ae7a51_b.jpg
Block 62 from main road _ Petir
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6233/6336961196_5520b3974b_b.jpg
View of kitchen/service balcony side 3-bedroom units, note kitchen wall facing living/dining not up yet inside. Window along corridor next to master bedroom window ensure lights get through during daytime and allow for good cross ventilation through the house.
...sorry, the first 2 images of this series were mistakenly labeled wrongly, it should be
Block 60 facing Chestnut ave
and
Block 68 facing Chestnut ave
.....not able to edit as the time limit has expired.
Below is the side facing Foresque:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6217/6336261835_f3335937cf_b.jpg
tallest so far is Block 62....at about 14th floor....10 more to go........
Block 62 at 14th story:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6097/6336960672_398a3592f1_b.jpg
Definitely this stretch with the high-rise development coming up gonna be sight
against the greens...
Power! How you get behind (near Foresque) the blocks to take those pic?
look like they are speeding up... :p
I shot from Foresque construction site entrance with my zoom lens...was told that I cannot take photos by one of the foreman.....I challenged him to call the police as I was taking from outside the site.....he kept quite after that.
Anyway the rate is about 1 floor per week, it would take possibly another 20 weeks for all the blocks to reach the top floor. So by Mid 2012 most of the shell should be completed, They possibly cannot work on the pool and in- between-structures before they reach the top as they are stacking the pre-fabs walls on the ground where these are located.
TOP should still be in 2013....but possibly earlier than the projected 3rd Quarter. However probably have to bear with the construction noise and air pollution for a bit from the Chestnut ave neighbor that will be coming up if the tender closing on the 24th is awarded.
Is your parents' unit on the upper floor?
U so brave. If that foremen approach me, I sure run. Hahaha
My parents unit is at mid level. :)
Treehouse's 2 and 2+study layout without balcony is still the ultimate in minimum space wastage design so far....no bomb shelter, no bay windows, no planters and no balconies.
:cool:
U so brave. If that foremen approach me, I sure run. Hahaha
My parents unit is at mid level. :)
haha...... I shoot professionally on a freelance basis, need to push the limit when shooting otherwise will never get job done....and also thick skin a bit when approaching subjects.
A few things I like about this project are...the natural greenery around the precinct, and the blocks are properly space apart. Space and Nature...not easy to found nowsaday, with so many hdb flats around them.
....putting Foresque and Treehouse site plans side by side gives one a better idea of how these two compare in terms of open space:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6224/6339700231_3b645ec0a3_b.jpg
Stack 7 and 8 would be unblocked, Block 60 facing Foresque also has good breathing space....
devilplate
15-11-11, 09:56
Stack 7 and 8 would be unblocked, Block 60 facing Foresque also has good breathing space....
but they r surrounded by 4 tennis courts and a 1/2 basketball court!:scared-4:
Don't think the noise will be greater than the pool, hopefully the bushes and trees can buffer it. :)
All in all, Tree House seems better spread out with fewer face to face orientation. Foresque has a ring road along the perimeter of the compound, Tree house road is confined to the vicinity of the entrance. Form the spread, Tree House seems less congested, but as Foresque 2nd floor is actually at 5th story height, the actual impression might be compensated by that.
still prefer the blocks in condo to be so called "anyhow spread out" rather than "parallel running" on both side.
...there lies the beauty, there is order in randomness.....the architect at Treehouse got it right there, and if you look closely there is deliberate decision to orientate the units so as to minimize each looking into the other.
SINGAPORE: The Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) has closed the tender for a residential site at Chestnut Avenue.
The 1.87-hectare land parcel, which can yield some 380 housing units attracted a total of 12 bids.
SP Setia International submitted the top bid of S$180 million.
The other bids for the 99-year leasehold site ranged between just over S$166 million and S$131 million.
Property consultancy CBRE said the "enthusiastic response of 12 bids reflects developers' unfaltered confidence in the mass-market housing segment."
CBRE added that the top bid of S$180 million or S$426 psf/plot ratio will translate to an estimated breakeven cost of S$850 psf to S$900 psf.
URA said a decision on the award of the tender will be made after the bids have been evaluated.
devilplate
24-11-11, 20:50
Wow hot hot! Developers r fools? Lol
......well look good for TH and FR.....anyway FR moved another 7 units in Oct leaving only 9 unsold out of 216 launched at above 1k psf.
....last saw TH highest block is now at 16/17th storey high....
flagship74
25-11-11, 13:22
Surprise...surprise..i thought the bid price is above my expectation despite the fact of the avg take up rate of Foresque condo:beats-me-man:
flagship74
25-11-11, 13:40
Wow hot hot! Developers r fools? Lol
Hahaha..foolish pple always make bug buck:D
Understand the plot next to foresque is allocated for education use...
Watched a documentary about treehouse yesterday...
http://www.papuatrekking.com/Korowai_Kombai.html
Watched a documentary about treehouse yesterday...
http://www.papuatrekking.com/Korowai_Kombai.html
Thanks for sharing...you watched it on a tv? which channel?
Surprise...surprise..i thought the bid price is above my expectation despite the fact of the avg take up rate of Foresque condo:beats-me-man:
Out of 496units
launched 216
sold 207
Unsold 9
Ave psf 1,097
Lowest psf 1,050
highest pst 1,219
......is this average? hmmm....I guess there are many foolish people wise guy.
Thanks for sharing...you watched it on a tv? which channel?
Cant remember, I was channel surfing... just happened to stop at that channel 4xx because the guys were constructing treehouses near the top of the trees. Little kids and pets were also brought up there to live. Apparently the guys believe that the higher your treehouse is, the more prestigious is your house! There was no safety harness, helmets etc, yet 0 casualty. Very skillful indeed.
Cant remember, I was channel surfing... just happened to stop at that channel 4xx because the guys were constructing treehouses near the top of the trees. Little kids and pets were also brought up there to live. Apparently the guys believe that the higher your treehouse is, the more prestigious is your house! There was no safety harness, helmets etc, yet 0 casualty. Very skillful indeed.
It's on okto.
Did you watch the part where one of the man climb up a 30m high tree to get the honney from a bee hive?
It took him more than an hour to climb up with an improvise tool to reach the tree top, walking on tree branches before he can enjoy his rewards. Totally no safety protection. Not to forget he also need to deal with the bee attack although he has a burning branch with smoke to fend them off. If at any point in time he lost his concentration or feel scare, he will fall to his death. It's real survival in the jungle.
He not only earn his respect of his tribes. I respect this people also.
Cant remember, I was channel surfing... just happened to stop at that channel 4xx because the guys were constructing treehouses near the top of the trees. Little kids and pets were also brought up there to live. Apparently the guys believe that the higher your treehouse is, the more prestigious is your house! There was no safety harness, helmets etc, yet 0 casualty. Very skillful indeed.
Well...they just want to find a quiet place to live. Must respect them indeed. ;)
....ah no diff from us....we all also climb the money tree.....the higher the money the more respected also...? ..of course when financial crisis comes....it how one stay on the tree that gets the real respect, less financially agile individuals will fall and even break their neck in the process....just a matter of context....
SINGAPORE: The Urban Redevelopment Authority has awarded the tender for the residential site at Chestnut Avenue to S P Setia International.
The site attracted 12 bids, with S P Setia International submitting the highest bid at S$180 million.
The 1.87-hectare land parcel which was offered for sale on a 99-year lease could yield about 380 housing units.
flagship74
30-11-11, 21:51
SINGAPORE: The Urban Redevelopment Authority has awarded the tender for the residential site at Chestnut Avenue to S P Setia International.
The site attracted 12 bids, with S P Setia International submitting the highest bid at S$180 million.
The 1.87-hectare land parcel which was offered for sale on a 99-year lease could yield about 380 housing units.
Probably they should wait a little longer:D
recalled:
Source: Business Times, 26 Aug 2009
Leng Beng lays down marker with Chestnut bid
EVEN as the dust settles on Hong Leong Group’s top bid at last week’s tender for a 99-year condo site at Chestnut Avenue, a discussion in some circles now centres on whether Hong Leong overpaid for the site.
As expected, Housing & Development Board said yesterday evening it has awarded the site to Sunny Vista Developments (a subsidiary of City Developments) and Hong Realty.
The two companies are part of the Hong Leong Group and teamed up to place the top bid of $143.68 million, which works out to a much-higher-than-expected land cost of $280 psf per plot ratio (psf ppr).
Some rival developers believe Hong Leong’s breakeven cost may be around the $600 psf mark and its projected average selling price near the $700 psf level. Sources, however, suggest the group may have been eyeing a much higher average price, in the high-$800 psf range, when it cast its bid.
That would set a benchmark for a 99-year leasehold condo in the area.
Hong Leong Group executive chairman Kwek Leng Beng said in a written reply to BT: ‘We can see potential in an area where some others may not… We are very familiar with this locality… There is now a lack of good and affordable residential developments in the vicinity. We are confident that there is a vibrant market there.’
The tender attracted 13 bids and marked the first time in about a year that the government had sold land for private residential development. Clearly, developers are famished for land after a stretch of strong housing sales over the past six months. The Chestnut Avenue plot in the Bukit Panjang area was on the government’s reserve list when it was triggered for release after a successful application by a developer that undertook to bid at least $62 million or about $121 psf ppr.
Here are some indicators of Hong Leong’s bullishness. Its bid was 2.3 times the minimum price. Seven of the 13 bids were bunched in the $169-182 psf ppr range; the winning bid was 54 to 66 per cent above this.
Hong Leong’s bid was 11.3 per cent higher than the next highest offer of $251.60 psf ppr placed by rival Far East Organization. The site is not near an MRT station but one advantage of its location is that units on the upper floors of a condo on the site will enjoy views of the nature reserve next to Upper Peirce Reservoir. Hong Leong’s new project on the site is expected to be profitable, but it remains to be seen just how high a price it will be able to achieve.
The aggressive winning bid has set the stage for toppish bids at next month’s tender for a ‘hotter’ site at Dakota Crescent next to an MRT station, fronting Geylang River and much closer to the city. It will also raise pressure on other reserve list sites that are triggered. In other words, land prices are set to escalate. Ditto for the prices at which developers later market new projects on these sites.
Mr Kwek insists that the outcome of the Chestnut Avenue tender shows the reserve list system – where the government launches a site for tender only upon successful application by a developer – is working well. ‘The property market has still not fully recovered yet and although the economy is improving, it has not recovered too,’ he added.
Last October, the government suspended sales of sites on the confirmed list, where sites are launched for tender according to scheduled dates. Instead, it has offered sites solely through the reserve list; this market-led approach was thought to be suitable amid the housing sales slump at the time.
However, in the first seven months of this year, developers sold a stunning 10,017 private homes – more than double the 4,264 units they sold in the whole of 2008. This has enabled developers to flex their muscles. Prices of mass-market condos today are about 10-15 per cent higher than the lows of Jan-Feb 2009, according to one developer’s estimate.
One reading of last week’s tender result is that some developers do not believe the pace of land sales from the reserve list will be fast enough for them to replenish their mass-market housing landbanks – despite the fact that three such sites had already been triggered in the one month preceding last week’s tender close. And the likes of Mr Kwek thus need to bid aggressively to get their hands quickly on some much-needed land.
Here’s a possible signal he may have inadvertently sent to the authorities, who are keen to assure the home buying public there is enough supply of private homes and land: please expedite the release of more land.
There may be a case now for government to transfer a few of the nicer sites from the current reserve list to the confirmed list, and start launching them soon. It could also replenish the reserve list.
But selling land only through the reserve list – where government waits for a developer to apply for a site and undertake to bid at a minimum price acceptable to the state before it launches the site – can take some time.
It may be opportune for government to take the unprecedented step of restarting confirmed list land sales midway through the current suspension for H2 2009.
Time is of the essence now as developers run out of land to build entry-level private condos on. And keeping the dream of upgrading to a private condo within reach of HDB upgraders is an important part of the Singapore housing story.
flagship74
01-12-11, 21:42
why leh? :)
it's just my "few-ling" that the px will fall..:D
A few things I like about this project are...the natural greenery around the precinct, and the blocks are properly space apart. Space and Nature...not easy to found nowsaday, with so many hdb flats around them.
treehouse and foresque were properly space-out.
bedok residences, my manhattan and jurong point
were so clamp, the blocks squeezing one another
like army parade. many just couldn't bother, they
want fast returns.
it's just my "few-ling" that the px will fall..:D
fewling...nothing more than fewling...hahaha....just like your perception of Foresque's sale is slow despite more than 90% units launched being sold....I think FEO, Capital Land and CDL should hire you as their CEO.....
flagship74
04-12-11, 19:11
fewling...nothing more than fewling...hahaha....just like your perception of Foresque's sale is slow despite more than 90% units launched being sold....I think FEO, Capital Land and CDL should hire you as their CEO.....
hahaha..:D
hahaha..:D
...you do have a sense of humour...wondering why you seems to marginalizing this area now.....you seems pretty interested in the Foresque...enough to kick start the thread for it.......has the price gone beyond your reach and you are now hoping that if you wish hard enough or 'fewl' hard enough, the price will fall within your reach?
flagship74
05-12-11, 09:06
...you do have a sense of humour...wondering why you seems to marginalizing this area now.....you seems pretty interested in the Foresque...enough to kick start the thread for it.......has the price gone beyond your reach and you are now hoping that if you wish hard enough or 'fewl' hard enough, the price will fall within your reach?
wow!!!:p :p
flagship74
08-12-11, 08:53
...you do have a sense of humour...wondering why you seems to marginalizing this area now.....you seems pretty interested in the Foresque...enough to kick start the thread for it.......has the price gone beyond your reach and you are now hoping that if you wish hard enough or 'fewl' hard enough, the price will fall within your reach?
FEW...LING WOR!!:D
it's just my "few-ling" that the px will fall..:D
price will drop when people stays on the moon.
devilplate
08-12-11, 10:28
price will drop when people stays on the moon.
bro...sunset liao la
bro...sunset liao la
uur.... sunrise again.:D
flagship74
08-12-11, 10:47
uur.... sunrise again.:D
Hahaha....! not moon lah..it's mars:D
it's just my "few-ling" that the px will fall..:D
for those who fear price drop, get telok blangah area, best feng shui in singapore.
woa... 5 big elements. pocket thick thick.
Residential site tender draws massive 22 bids
SINGAPORE - A government land tender for a residential site drew a massive 22 bids, despite tough new measures to cool the housing market.
The Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) said the site at Chestnut Avenue/Almond Avenue attracted a top bid of S$70.8 million from a company called SCB Terraform.
The next highest bid of S$67.8 million came from SK Land Pte Ltd.
CT Projects Pte Ltd put in the third highest bid of S$65.9 million.
The remaining 19 bids range from S$25 million to S$64 million.
The site measures 12,893.4 square metres. Located in the relatively popular Upper Bukit Timah area, it was offered for sale on a 99-year lease.
The top bid works out to S$5,494 per square metre of built-up space.
Under the latest property market-cooling measures, buyers of private properties in Singapore will have to fork out an Additional Buyer's Stamp Duty (ABSD) of between 3 per cent and 10 per cent over and above the existing Buyer’s Stamp Duty.
The new measure does not affect permanent residents buying their first home and Singaporeans buying their first and/or second home.
Foreigners are the hardest hit. They have to pay a hefty ABSD of 10 per cent on any purchase of a residential property in Singapore.
devilplate
08-12-11, 19:07
Developers submitted their bids before yday announcement? Lol
Landed housing.....
From URA in Sept-11:
Condo: Tree House
Price: S$860,000
Area: 861 sqf (believe its 2+S)
Unit $: S$999 psf
flagship74
08-12-11, 21:44
Developers submitted their bids before yday announcement? Lol
Landed housing.....
developers must be cursing themselves now for bidding so high..haha..;)
devilplate
08-12-11, 21:49
developers must be cursing themselves now for bidding so high..haha..;)
Only one cursing....the other 21 all say wah lau damn HENG ARGH!!!
Only one cursing....the other 21 all say wah lau damn HENG ARGH!!!
Once the government has awarded, does it mean that the developer cannot pull out of the deal?
flagship74
08-12-11, 21:54
Only one cursing....the other 21 all say wah lau damn HENG ARGH!!!
haha..nice one..sibei heng ar!!:D
devilplate
08-12-11, 21:55
Once the government has awarded, does it mean that the developer cannot pull out of the deal?
I also wana know....can developer forfeit anot ar? Hehehe
flagship74
08-12-11, 21:58
I also wana know....can developer forfeit anot ar? Hehehe
can lah..kena black mark by garment lor..:D
.....do note that this land is for landed?.... so the policy do not really affect the market segment as much since only Singaporean can purchase.
btw, for condo valuation, do they take neighbor landed pty price into account?
btw, for condo valuation, do they take neighbor landed pty price into account?
...I doubt so, its not advantageous for Condo to lump with landed as PSF for landed tends to be lower.
...technically one would not know how resilient the market might be .... a 10% increase in stamp duty might translate to maybe a less than 10% drop in price to absorb the fees, the developers are probably taking stock of the situation,.... having weathered past downturns, they probably have strong hearts and would not panic like individual investors......resale will probably be more volatile, I foresee developers dishing out rebates to those affected by the stamp fees......the doomsayers are having a field day now and hoping to spark mass panic.....as long as locals still have jobs to pay their mortgages, there will not be any disastrous mayhem in the market.
...so good bargain can be had in the sub or re-sales, as panic stricken individuals dump their assets.
A major drop will just benefit foreigners......50% drop would make the 10% stamp duty miniscule in comparison, even at 20%, foreigners might flood in stabilizing the prices in the process.
flagship74
18-12-11, 11:35
From URA in Sept-11:
Condo: Tree House
Price: S$860,000
Area: 861 sqf (believe its 2+S)
Unit $: S$999 psf
Tree hse px starting to head south..:doh:
Date of Option Exercised / Sales Agreement Signed
TREE HOUSE CHESTNUT AVENUE Condominium 1 812,000 861sqf $943psf transaction on Nov-11
Tree hse px starting to head south..:doh:
Date of Option Exercised / Sales Agreement Signed
TREE HOUSE CHESTNUT AVENUE Condominium 1 812,000 861sqf $943psf transaction on Nov-11
Cooling measure was implemented in early Dec. The actual impact should be more significant in Dec 2011 and Jan 2012 data.
flagship74
18-12-11, 19:28
Cooling measure was implemented in early Dec. The actual impact should be more significant in Dec 2011 and Jan 2012 data.
well said..guys prepare your bullets..:D
Does not matter for non investor...they just want a place to stay.
Does not matter for investor...it only bother them when nearer to T.O.P.
We can have whatever CM now, hope all can stabilize 2 years later.
flagship74
18-12-11, 22:00
what a FEW-LING..gee...:D
what a FEW-LING..gee...:D
:) uncle...not Few-ling lah......you still don't get it after so long? :doh:
flagship74
19-12-11, 11:10
:) uncle...not Few-ling lah......you still don't get it after so long? :doh:
Auntie..yes lah!!:doh:
what a FEW-LING..gee...:D
...keep on Fewling....I think you are in the wrong country.....vultures are not found in Singapore because very few carcasses........so desperate for a unit here but cannot afford eh? Anyway even dropping 20% from recent transaction most owners would break even....so keep on Fewling and see your dream fade away......
flagship74
21-12-11, 21:44
...keep on Fewling....I think you are in the wrong country.....vultures are not found in Singapore because very few carcasses........so desperate for a unit here but cannot afford eh? Anyway even dropping 20% from recent transaction most owners would break even....so keep on Fewling and see your dream fade away......
Wahahahaha....:D
941 psf still expensive isnt it? still struggling to understand for the same psf, how come dont buy FH and next to future MRT?? can buyers help explain?
Wahahahaha....:D
flagship74
21-12-11, 22:24
941 psf still expensive isnt it? still struggling to understand for the same psf, how come dont buy FH and next to future MRT?? can buyers help explain?
aiyo..most of the TH buyers thought that it's a good deal but well up to them lor:doh: ...whahaha...!:D
Drove past 2 days ago & I saw one of the block high high when I turned in from PIE to BKE. And I believe that block is only 18 sty high. Wow...imagine once it reaches over 20 sty... Beautiful. :)
aiyo..most of the TH buyers thought that it's a good deal but well up to them lor:doh: ...whahaha...!:D
......wahhaaaaaaa sour grapes.....
941 psf still expensive isnt it? still struggling to understand for the same psf, how come dont buy FH and next to future MRT?? can buyers help explain?
.......proximity to mRT is something that not everyone's priority, there are people who do not take mRT at all btw.....fine line betw FH and 99yrs blurred in recent years as en bloc makes them similar as which development will be preserved forever? FH and 99 are torn down and rebuilt all over the island. If you look at the plot ratio, in comparison with HDBs,many development still have possibility to be revised upward maybe 30 years down the road...99 yrs no value? Look at Sherwood Towers, mentality 5-10years ago was that its past 20yrs, so no value, but now....? Its hitting near 1mil...for something you could have had for about 300-400K just less than a decade ago....go look for those who bought even 5 years ago....and see who is laughing...
Property cycle over the years are often affected by economic cycles and policy changes......you can never be sure how these elements come into play.
So...why people buy into it? Its a lifestyle choice for those who buy to stay.....its a matter of would you rather stay in an aging development vs brand new one....would you rather enjoy the facilities or worry about the paper value of where you are staying.....its a choice....
devilplate
22-12-11, 07:29
Mrt not impt for some but it affects the pricing
Developers always bid higher for land near mrt
Entry px above location :D
proud owner
22-12-11, 07:55
So...why people buy into it? Its a lifestyle choice for those who buy to stay.....its a matter of would you rather stay in an aging development vs brand new one....would you rather enjoy the facilities or worry about the paper value of where you are staying.....its a choice....[/quote]
if one is rich, and have spare $$$$.. then he can talk about lifestyle lah
to many .. affordability is still key ...
if one has just THAT amt .. and miss the boat to buy that ideal FH .. he will be forced to buy a 'cheaper' older one or a LH and not FH (assuming FH more expensive which is true most of the time)
what is bad is when one cannot afford a more expensive FH and then buy a LH which is far from MRT and then use : One cannot outlive 99 years, or Lifestyle .. as excuses for making that purchase ...
devilplate
22-12-11, 07:57
So...why people buy into it? Its a lifestyle choice for those who buy to stay.....its a matter of would you rather stay in an aging development vs brand new one....would you rather enjoy the facilities or worry about the paper value of where you are staying.....its a choice....
Ya i always dream of owning a gcb
flagship74
22-12-11, 09:34
.......proximity to mRT is something that not everyone's priority, there are people who do not take mRT at all btw.....fine line betw FH and 99yrs blurred in recent years as en bloc makes them similar as which development will be preserved forever? FH and 99 are torn down and rebuilt all over the island. If you look at the plot ratio, in comparison with HDBs,many development still have possibility to be revised upward maybe 30 years down the road...99 yrs no value? Look at Sherwood Towers, mentality 5-10years ago was that its past 20yrs, so no value, but now....? Its hitting near 1mil...for something you could have had for about 300-400K just less than a decade ago....go look for those who bought even 5 years ago....and see who is laughing...
Property cycle over the years are often affected by economic cycles and policy changes......you can never be sure how these elements come into play.
So...why people buy into it? Its a lifestyle choice for those who buy to stay.....its a matter of would you rather stay in an aging development vs brand new one....would you rather enjoy the facilities or worry about the paper value of where you are staying.....its a choice....
What an excuse..whaahaa... talking about lifestyle somemore...buying a LH and far from MRT is not a good choice in my opinion lah..:tsk-tsk:
It is a bargaining chip when it comes to rental in bad times if property is near to mrt stn.
.......proximity to mRT is something that not everyone's priority, there are people who do not take mRT at all btw.....fine line betw FH and 99yrs blurred in recent years as en bloc makes them similar as which development will be preserved forever? FH and 99 are torn down and rebuilt all over the island. If you look at the plot ratio, in comparison with HDBs,many development still have possibility to be revised upward maybe 30 years down the road...99 yrs no value? Look at Sherwood Towers, mentality 5-10years ago was that its past 20yrs, so no value, but now....? Its hitting near 1mil...for something you could have had for about 300-400K just less than a decade ago....go look for those who bought even 5 years ago....and see who is laughing...
Property cycle over the years are often affected by economic cycles and policy changes......you can never be sure how these elements come into play.
So...why people buy into it? Its a lifestyle choice for those who buy to stay.....its a matter of would you rather stay in an aging development vs brand new one....would you rather enjoy the facilities or worry about the paper value of where you are staying.....its a choice....
Lots of FH condos near sherwood tower below value if you compare to the new development like hillier in hillview. Still do not know why people willing to pay for such project:doh:
.......proximity to mRT is something that not everyone's priority, there are people who do not take mRT at all btw.....fine line betw FH and 99yrs blurred in recent years as en bloc makes them similar as which development will be preserved forever? FH and 99 are torn down and rebuilt all over the island. If you look at the plot ratio, in comparison with HDBs,many development still have possibility to be revised upward maybe 30 years down the road...99 yrs no value? Look at Sherwood Towers, mentality 5-10years ago was that its past 20yrs, so no value, but now....? Its hitting near 1mil...for something you could have had for about 300-400K just less than a decade ago....go look for those who bought even 5 years ago....and see who is laughing...
Property cycle over the years are often affected by economic cycles and policy changes......you can never be sure how these elements come into play.
So...why people buy into it? Its a lifestyle choice for those who buy to stay.....its a matter of would you rather stay in an aging development vs brand new one....would you rather enjoy the facilities or worry about the paper value of where you are staying.....its a choice....
devilplate
22-12-11, 11:05
Lots of FH condos near sherwood tower below value if you compare to the new development like hillier in hillview. Still do not know why people willing to pay for such project:doh:
ya lor.....
signature park so big and nice
Too far. There are nearer ones.
ya lor.....
signature park so big and nice
devilplate
22-12-11, 11:10
Too far. There are nearer ones.
like wat? share share ;)
Goodluck garden is older but with lots more open spaces. The only problem that the residents are not keen to enbloc. Not sure if any developer is willing to digest it. There are more FH condos nearer to courts too.
like wat? share share ;)
devilplate
22-12-11, 11:19
Goodluck garden is older but with lots more open spaces. The only problem that the residents are not keen to enbloc. Not sure if any developer is willing to digest it. There are more FH condos nearer to courts too.
bro.....gdluck just beside signature park......den u say SPark too far??? :p
There is side gate which is nearer to plaza. Potential for enbloc is greater too.
bro.....gdluck just beside signature park......den u say SPark too far??? :p
devilplate
22-12-11, 11:27
There is side gate which is nearer to plaza. Potential for enbloc is greater too.
gdluck smaller land so perhaps easier to enbloc....
SP too big.....quite impossible to en
The 1700 sgft facing the pool/park is quite windy even for a low development. Too many well to do people there who refuse to sell.
What an excuse..whaahaa... talking about lifestyle somemore...buying a LH and far from MRT is not a good choice in my opinion lah..:tsk-tsk:
hahaha.....then show so much interest in that area .........
It is a bargaining chip when it comes to rental in bad times if property is near to mrt stn.
True if bought as investment...but what's there to worry about rental if for self-stay?
Mrt not impt for some but it affects the pricing
Developers always bid higher for land near mrt
Entry px above location :D
...well which is why Bedok residence fetched 1.3K......do agree that Foresque seems over the top in comparison.........
Unfortunately mrt stn is in the buyer's checklist whether for rental or outstay.
True if bought as investment...but what's there to worry about rental if for self-stay?
construction Update for the TH:
Tallest Block now at 19/20th floor
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6559018855_bfd8679f06_b.jpg
Foresque rising in the background:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/6559019597_1c454dc7f5_b.jpg
Lowest block is now at 9th Floor:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7155/6559022521_a12bb89c22_b.jpg
Panoramic view:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7164/6559022973_c7b02893d4_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6559020449_f236d92ea5_b.jpg
flagship74
23-12-11, 22:16
hahaha.....then show so much interest in that area .........
that birds dont lay eggs..forget it man!:tsk-tsk:
that birds dont lay eggs..forget it man!:tsk-tsk:
zzzzzzz no time for your ridiculous riddles....
flagship74
23-12-11, 22:21
zzzzzzz no time for your ridiculous riddles....
whahaha....:D
that birds dont lay eggs..forget it man!:tsk-tsk:
lack of substance :doh:
flagship74
23-12-11, 22:32
lack of substance :doh:
wahahaha....:D
....putting Foresque and Treehouse site plans side by side gives one a better idea of how these two compare in terms of open space:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6224/6339700231_3b645ec0a3_b.jpg
Stack 7 and 8 would be unblocked, Block 60 facing Foresque also has good breathing space....
....just some thought on the design, Foresque has a 'ring-road' this makes it accessible for moving large furniture and renovation loads......but TH access to vehicle confines to just the entrance area at ground level, wondering how to move bulky items into the apartments especially the blocks further away from entrance....wonder if the basement height is higher to allow for taller vehicles
....but of course TH without 'ring-road' has more facilities-friendly space.
Not a bad place for retirement. Every day see nature.
TH more spacious.
Forestkill cramp more units.
How come I only see concrete jungle in the pictures. Where is the forest?
How come I only see concrete jungle in the pictures. Where is the forest?
...you see what you want to see.....
How come I only see concrete jungle in the pictures. Where is the forest?
doubt u know the meaning of concrete jungle. That's bad.
doubt u know the meaning of concrete jungle. That's bad.
Sorry, its concrete forest.
Sorry, its concrete forest.
....everyone has their own opinion, rightly or wrongly.....
flagship74
25-12-11, 09:23
....everyone has their own opinion, rightly or wrongly.....
now den u realized..not too bad huh:cool:
now den u realized..not too bad huh:cool:
Uncle, u still don't get it. WHAwhaaaahahaha! :doh:
The closer you want to live to the nature, the further it gets away from you. A building and a forest are mutually exclusive. I have posted a video on treehouse construction here before. To build a treehouse, you need to destroy the trees around it.
flagship74
25-12-11, 11:07
Uncle, u still don't get it. WHAwhaaaahahaha! :doh:
HOHOHO..!!:D
The closer you want to live to the nature, the further it gets away from you. A building and a forest are mutually exclusive. I have posted a video on treehouse construction here before. To build a treehouse, you need to destroy the trees around it.
.....hahaha, so strip off your suits and take-off onto the trees.......there are plenty around Tree House....we can be neighbors.I still prefer a roof than a canopy of leaves.
HOHOHO..!!:D
I take it that you are enjoying your Christmas......do keep dreaming of a White Christmas.....but it will never happen in Singapore HoHoHo.....
........hohoho...merry Christmas to all Bears and Bulls...
.....hahaha, so strip off your suits and take-off onto the trees.......there are plenty around Tree House....we can be neighbors.I still prefer a roof than a canopy of leaves.
I'm not a tree-hugger.
I'm not a tree-hugger.
.....sorry thought you have something against concrete.....
flagship74
25-12-11, 19:01
I take it that you are enjoying your Christmas......do keep dreaming of a White Christmas.....but it will never happen in Singapore HoHoHo.....
Life is like a box of chocolates....;)
.....sorry thought you have something against concrete.....
Yes, I do. It traps heat and it is heavy. I'm always thinking of a better material for buildings. Unfortunately this Roman technology is hard to replace in terms of cost effectiveness.
Yes, I do. It traps heat and it is heavy. I'm always thinking of a better material for buildings. Unfortunately this Roman technology is hard to replace in terms of cost effectiveness.
Try building a skyscraper...
Yes, I do. It traps heat and it is heavy. I'm always thinking of a better material for buildings. Unfortunately this Roman technology is hard to replace in terms of cost effectiveness.
Concrete is not the issue, design of a building is the cause.....btw TH was awarded platinum Green mark award.........
Life is like a box of chocolates....;)
true, there chocolates and there are chocolates....whole lot of diff in prices....Panda, Van Houten, Cadbury, Guylian, Godiva, Lindt & Sprüngli, Ghirardelli, Richart.......and...
Chocopologie by Knipschildt
Cost: $2,600 per pound*
€2,173
£1,491
Can$2,992
Aus$3,500
Rs114,816
......but then make sure you don't miss the boat, inflation might makes some of these sky-rocket in price...
Unfortunately mrt stn is in the buyer's checklist whether for rental or outstay.
........how about east coast? How about ...to quote Regulators:
"Then you must think about the number of expats renting east coast where there is no mrt? eateries and other amenities appeal to tenants, not just mrt. Brookvale in sunset way is unwalkable even to the main road, not to mention mrt, but you still get tenants who want to rent the place for its serenity."
flagship74
26-12-11, 21:00
true, there chocolates and there are chocolates....whole lot of diff in prices....Panda, Van Houten, Cadbury, Guylian, Godiva, Lindt & Sprüngli, Ghirardelli, Richart.......and...
Chocopologie by Knipschildt
Cost: $2,600 per pound*
€2,173
£1,491
Can$2,992
Aus$3,500
Rs114,816
......but then make sure you don't miss the boat, inflation might makes some of these sky-rocket in price...
Times will tell...whahahaaaa..!:D
Times will tell...whahahaaaa..!:D
you seems very interested in this development. :D
He is playing GOD.......Go-On-Drop.......basically DROP......DReam Of Property to level he can afford ..... just my FEWLING......
He is playing GOD.......Go-On-Drop.......basically DROP......DReam Of Property to level he can afford ..... just my FEWLING......
when TOP we invite him with red carpet. don't say we are unfriendly.:D
flagship74
27-12-11, 21:39
you seems very interested in this development. :D
u really think so...then u r sadly mistaken...wahahaha..:D
u really think so...then u r sadly mistaken...wahahaha..:D
....guess...its Hillier now ya? Good for you.....think the smallest one is still affordable in terms of quantum....
u really think so...then u r sadly mistaken...wahahaha..:D
as the building gets higher ..:banghead: kon kon kon
flagship74
28-12-11, 17:26
....guess...its Hillier now ya? Good for you.....think the smallest one is still affordable in terms of quantum....
Price will plunge lah..FEWLING..wahaha...:D
Price will plunge lah..FEWLING..wahaha...:D
to how much? below the preview price? If not...what are you saying? :confused:
flagship74
28-12-11, 17:57
to how much? below the preview price? If not...what are you saying? :confused:
i cannot convince so i confuse u lah auntie...wahaha..!:D
i cannot convince so i confuse u lah auntie...wahaha..!:D
real noob...
real noob...
...haha u meant real loser...?
Price will plunge lah..FEWLING..wahaha...:D
give them a break manz,
some are real newbie just gotta their 1st a new investment hse.
u want the price plunge before they getta to taste their fruits of success/profits..:D whakakkakakakaka
in real deep shit manz, those newbies with that little to start with:doh:
flagship74
28-12-11, 21:32
give them a break manz,
some are real newbie just gotta their 1st a new investment hse.
u want the price plunge before they getta to taste their fruits of success/profits..:D whakakkakakakaka
in real deep shit manz, those newbies with that little to start with:doh:
You got the point! ;)
...haha u meant real loser...?
give them a break manz,
some are real noobs just ...... want the price plunge before we getta to taste the fruits of success/profits..:D whakakkakakakaka
in real deep shit manz, those noobs with nothing to start with:doh:
You got the point! ;)
What's point of keep saying Price will plunge and etc...based on your FEWLING in here, without the proof of real data...
you are a true speculator.
don't you think at your age is very childish?
What's point of keep saying Price will plunge and etc...based on your FEWLING in here, without the proof of real data...
you are a true speculator.
don't you think at your age is very childish?
go read my previous posts.
listed of 5 units of lelong prices discounted from 80-150k from transacted prices.
doublebay residences at 899k off transacted 980k,
sunshine plaza 1.25m off transacted 1.4m,
melville park 720k off transacted 820k..
and more...
will post more in 2012
go read my previous posts.
listed of 5 units of lelong prices discounted from 80-150k from transacted prices.
doublebay residences at 899k off transacted 980k,
sunshine plaza 1.25m off transacted 1.4m,
melville park 720k off transacted 820k..
and more...
will post more in 2012
who bother about your postings...since you're not the one who keep saying FEWLING here. Thanks anyway.
go read my previous posts.
listed of 5 units of lelong prices discounted from 80-150k from transacted prices.
doublebay residences at 899k off transacted 980k,
sunshine plaza 1.25m off transacted 1.4m,
melville park 720k off transacted 820k..
and more...
will post more in 2012
...data can always be read the way you want it to read....even in gd times transaction price varies...depends on many factors.....with just a few figures, you draw your conclusion.......who are you kidding...hahaha or are you really that naive doing primary school research on property? You need better supervision from a mentor.....haha u would be in good company with basic....but he at least gather lots of rubbish
go read my previous posts.
listed of 5 units of lelong prices discounted from 80-150k from transacted prices.
doublebay residences at 899k off transacted 980k,
sunshine plaza 1.25m off transacted 1.4m,
melville park 720k off transacted 820k..
and more...
will post more in 2012
These are areas which overshot, so must respect gravity. There are still gems out there.:)
...data can always be read the way you want it to read....even in gd times transaction price varies...depends on many factors.....with just a few figures, you draw your conclusion.......who are you kidding...hahaha or are you really that naive doing primary school research on property? You need better supervision from a mentor.....haha u would be in good company with basic....but he at least gather lots of rubbish
if i need a mentor,
then u need the god.
pray hard for ur 3 bedder 1st investment prop at treehouse dont see a replay of 1996-1997 cycle
if i need a mentor,
then u need the god.
pray hard for ur 3 bedder 1st investment prop at treehouse dont see a replay of 1996-1997 cycle
Uncle, we buy to stay lah....your mind is full of investment.
How about higher prices like the below:
The Clift $2300 psf vs previous $2199 psf
Watermark $1875 psf vs previous $1812 psf
Rivergate $2057 psf vs $1980 psf...
...More to come... :p
go read my previous posts.
listed of 5 units of lelong prices discounted from 80-150k from transacted prices.
doublebay residences at 899k off transacted 980k,
sunshine plaza 1.25m off transacted 1.4m,
melville park 720k off transacted 820k..
and more...
will post more in 2012
if i need a mentor,
then u need the god.
pray hard for ur 3 bedder 1st investment prop at treehouse dont see a replay of 1996-1997 cycle
,,,,haha u are really funny, there are already so many GOD(Go-On-DRop) like you around.....I really do not believe in such GODs....1st investment? hahaha what makes u think so..... you don't know anything about me and you are drawing conclusion.....u have a long way to go on the learning curve.....its ok...take it one step at a time...you can learn on your own pace...I don't know about u....even if it drops.....what makes u think I cannot hold....maybe u are so nervous now.
doublebay residences at 899k off transacted 980k,
Double bay, in nov there were one 878k and one 980k, same type of unit, before CM5.
So ur data at least on this project are not conclusive. There are simply too many factors. I dun think any firesale had started. Wait for STI drop below 2k 1st.....
Btw I have no interest in any of the projects u posted.
devilplate
29-12-11, 01:06
Double bay, in nov there were one 878k and one 980k, same type of unit, before CM5.
So ur data at least on this project are not conclusive. There are simply too many factors. I dun think any firesale had started. Wait for STI drop below 2k 1st.....
Btw I have no interest in any of the projects u posted.
bullman got 2 firesale landed deals
he very resourceful
.........he should be nicked the Skewedminimum....good at skewing datas with
the minimum ....or jwrong......
Wishing everyone here many wishes for the New Year. :cheers5:
May the spirit of this holiday season fill your heart with love, peace and serenity.
Have a great 2012 ahead!
Happy New Year 2012! :cheers4:
Latest Update from CDL
APPROXIMATE PERCENTAGE COMPLETED(%) : 43%
EXPECTED ISSUANCE OF TOP / CSC* : Q2 2013
* Estimated date subject to changes
Latest Update from CDL
APPROXIMATE PERCENTAGE COMPLETED(%) : 43%
EXPECTED ISSUANCE OF TOP / CSC* : Q2 2013
* Estimated date subject to changes
This is 30% more completed compared to Sept update and 1Q earlier to completion....the next 2Q should bring TOP much closer to 100%, perhaps should complete by 1Q 2013 optimistically.
Price will plunge lah..FEWLING..wahaha...:D
property price coming down silky slow. bo feeling jialat leh.
.....some block almost reaching top floor at 23 going on 24...http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/6740998491_605261d7ef_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7022/6740999557_56ede98240_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7175/6741004997_a09e3551d6_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/6741004537_e27e7ded0c_b.jpg
property price coming down silky slow. bo feeling jialat leh.
...ya someone will be flagging white flag soon....seems to have quieten down....
flagship74
22-01-12, 16:45
...ya someone will be flagging white flag soon....seems to have quieten down....
haha:D :D :D
.....some block almost reaching top floor at 23 going on 24...http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/6740998491_605261d7ef_b.jpg
Anyone know what's the concrete structure in front of Blk 60? Sub-station? Belongs to Foresque or TH? It is not shown in any of their plans.
flagship74
22-01-12, 18:33
Anyone know what's the concrete structure in front of Blk 60? Sub-station? Belongs to Foresque or TH? It is not shown in any of their plans.
shld belong to forest-kll i guess:D
shld belong to forest-kll i guess:D
...views taken from Foresque site, the foreground and middle ground belong to Foresque...
Window frames are going up, with some units having glass panels up and Balcony frames.
Did anyone did a refinance after buying from the showflat sale?
...ya someone will be flagging white flag soon....seems to have quieten down....
stay low to avoid attack.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7207/6775621166_861633d681_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7058/6921732315_5586f8d76e_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7055/6921732567_efa2778400_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7193/6775617994_a79a512423_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7202/6775618340_1a1a16c8fa_b.jpg
Blocks that are at lowest completed floor are at 18th floor.
Thank you! Always waiting for you to load new photos! :cheers5:
Thank you! Always waiting for you to load new photos! :cheers5:
this development very spacious. nicely done.
:cheers4:
peace of mind.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7203/6969177921_d4e4dc7bcb_b.jpg
Block 60 at 23rd story, 24 story partially completed.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7046/6823054792_e91a67f6dd_b.jpg
All 4 blocks in view from Foresque site
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7202/6775618340_1a1a16c8fa_b.jpg
Foresque with blue scaffolding cover in the background, seems like they are using a different construction method....no scaffold seen on TH as yet...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6741000615_be564285b5_b.jpg
Block 62 with ground floor units glassed up and railings installed
Foresque have high soft storey (void). From the photo, we can see the super thick reinforcement.
just curious, will there be any concrete cover outside the 2nd sty room windows (other than the balcony slab) over the ground floor unit patio?
..think there is no overhang from 2nd story onwards, only on 1st storey.
...noticed that the construction progress on CDL updates site has regressed:
(http://www.cdl.com.sg/app/cdl/customers/homebuyer_services/top_progress.xml )
Tree House
Chestnut Avenue
Condo
35.1%
Q2 2013 as of 31 March 2012
from
42%
Q2 2013 as of 31 Dec 2011
....should be a mistake as expected TOP is still the same.
CDL Replied:
Dear >>>>>
Thank you for your email and our sincere apology for the confusion with regards to the percentage completed.
Due to a typo error, the percentage given last month was inaccurate. We have since taken note of the error and amended accordingly.
Should you require any further information pertaining to the project, you may contact us at 6877 1818 for assistance. Again, we would like to apologize for the error and inconvenience caused.
Thank you for your kind understanding.
Best Regards,
Regina Chia
Customer Service & Admin Dept
City Developments Limited
(Regn. No: 196300316Z)
http://www.cdl.com.sg (http://www.cdl.com.sg/)
figure still at 35.1% and lower than the 42% in Dec Figure......this must be some kind of joke in terms of customer service.
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