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vipersiao888
12-08-10, 08:47
champion 1000 psf ? for LH ? no right turn project ?
i need no say much ... you know where else you should be looking ..
proud owner, need your enlightenment. Most of the projects around D5 are selling above 1000psf. Even army barracks VP is selling around that kind of psf. :(
champion 1000 psf ? for LH ? no right turn project ?
i need no say much ... you know where else you should be looking ..
Nowadays where else can you find below 1000 psf?? Even ulu location also calling this kind of price. Can lah if you want cheap in D5 go for Westgrove Condo, guarantee cheap:D .
Nowadays where else can you find below 1000 psf?? Even ulu location also calling this kind of price. Can lah if you want cheap in D5 go for Westgrove Condo, guarantee cheap:D .
Beware of Westgrove Condo...
This one, the estate manager ran away with ?millions of the sinking funds, until each SP must top up $8000 levy to keep the place running, at one stage, lift spoilt got no money to repair.
Cheap also must consider if it is sold to you with headaches thrown in.
Traffic in front of CW is going to be big headache when all the units are occupied.
... there are no right turning lane into CW (the next door project VP have got extra lane to turn)...
this should mean LTA didn't approve the extra lane for CW. You are supposed to use the other direction and do left turn. When more ppl move in, and if every one is right turning in front and blocking the road, lots of road users will complain, and TP will come and clear the traffic. It may even construct a divider just in front of CW to make sure ppl cannot turn right there. This happened in other projects before.
vipersiao888
12-08-10, 13:41
this should mean LTA didn't approve the extra lane for CW. You are supposed to use the other direction and do left turn. When more ppl move in, and if every one is right turning in front and blocking the road, lots of road users will complain, and TP will come and clear the traffic. It may even construct a divider just in front of CW to make sure ppl cannot turn right there. This happened in other projects before.
amk, probably its an oversight from LTA not to have extra side turning lanes (both sides) for CW (don't understand why neighbouring VP have it on both sides n CW not having it). Also, when you are coming from either NUS or Vivo city and in order not to do any illegal right turn, you will need to go along west coast highway, make a right turn towards clementi woods park, make another right turn to west coast road. Is'nt that too "leychay" for the residents. And worst still, with no extra left turning lanes, at around 6pm when most of the residents coming back from work, my god, I cannot imagine the chaotic situation.:doh:
proud owner, need your enlightenment. Most of the projects around D5 are selling above 1000psf. Even army barracks VP is selling around that kind of psf. :(
As you already pointed out, there are other projects around D5, so people will compare for the same 1000psf+, which one offer better value...and attracts more buyers willing to transact at the asking price... you see, transactions for CW is few and far between... so there is definitely willing buyers that see value for CW, but there are also more buyers looking elsewhere for more value for the price...subjectively perhaps.
proud owner, need your enlightenment. Most of the projects around D5 are selling above 1000psf. Even army barracks VP is selling around that kind of psf. :(
Wait until you go further down towards pasir panjang size, Horizon Residence by Far East already transacted at 1500psf, than come and talk lar.:D
Talk about "leychay", those living in Keng Chin Road, Ewe Boon Road, Robin Road etc also "leychay". If come down from Dunearn Road side, have to drive all the way down to Balmoral Road or when cannot right turn (during peak hours) have to drive all the way to Newton Circus (terrible traffic jam area!) just to make a U-turn back to Bukit Timah Road and to Keng Chin Road!
If you stay in Keng Chin or Ewe Boon, to drive to Dunearn Road have to make a U-turn from Bukit Timah Road and it take ages to go out of Keng Chin Road because of the very heavy traffic and once turn out have to cut 3 lanes to right-most lane in order to be in time to make the U-turn. Robin Road and above lagi worse, have to drive all the way north to Witley road to make the U-turn back! (another terrible traffic jam junction during peak hours!).
amk, probably its an oversight from LTA not to have extra side turning lanes (both sides) for CW (don't understand why neighbouring VP have it on both sides n CW not having it). Also, when you are coming from either NUS or Vivo city and in order not to do any illegal right turn, you will need to go along west coast highway, make a right turn towards clementi woods park, make another right turn to west coast road. Is'nt that too "leychay" for the residents. And worst still, with no extra left turning lanes, at around 6pm when most of the residents coming back from work, my god, I cannot imagine the chaotic situation.:doh:
amk, probably its an oversight from LTA not to have extra side turning lanes (both sides) for CW (don't understand why neighbouring VP have it on both sides n CW not having it).
u know it is *not* LTA's duty to make a lane for a private condo. The other condo simply has a better lot (i.e. with the lane available). The developer is responsible to work with authority to make road changes (at developer's cost) to make it convenient for its home buyers , not the other way round. After all, the road is there all the time, you cannot say you do not know before buying. This is planning. Of course now you can ask your MP to appeal to LTA to make one for you. I'm not familiar enough with this area, so I dun know if there is a reason. As a matter of fact, location of the main entrance of a project needs approval from LTA.
teddy, u should post big big in the Cyan thread. ;)
proud owner
12-08-10, 23:20
Nowadays where else can you find below 1000 psf?? Even ulu location also calling this kind of price. Can lah if you want cheap in D5 go for Westgrove Condo, guarantee cheap:D .
are you sure cannot find ?
there are still so many FH condo along PP thats reasonably new and below 1000 psf ...
personally i dun look at nor buy LH condos .. especially in a bull run .. you always buy high ..at times same psf as FH ..
but when mkt turns, or when it gets older..it will fall faster, or increase less and slower ..
CW is not the best condo there anyway .. esp when its LH ..
Ok, reposted in Cyan thread. :cheers1:
u know it is *not* LTA's duty to make a lane for a private condo. The other condo simply has a better lot (i.e. with the lane available). The developer is responsible to work with authority to make road changes (at developer's cost) to make it convenient for its home buyers , not the other way round. After all, the road is there all the time, you cannot say you do not know before buying. This is planning. Of course now you can ask your MP to appeal to LTA to make one for you. I'm not familiar enough with this area, so I dun know if there is a reason. As a matter of fact, location of the main entrance of a project needs approval from LTA.
teddy, u should post big big in the Cyan thread. ;)
No transactions for CW in June,
only 1 in May.
In July, there is 3 transactions just published by URA:
90 West Coast Road #03-48
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$923 psf
1625 sqft
$1500k
16 Jul 10
82 West Coast Road #02-29
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$972 psf
1625 sqft
$1580k
15 Jul 10
88 West Coast Road #03-37
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$1000 psf
1625 sqft
$1625k
12 Jul 10
Looking at #03-48 unit vs #03-37, same size, sam level, similar facing...
In fact #03-37 is less desirable as it is too close to Clementi road (vs west coast road)...
Wow the buyer pay $125K more for a less desirable unit!!!
Wow what a difference in 4 days can make... or the buyer did not do his/her own research and depended on the agents...
stalingrad
13-08-10, 14:30
Don't jump to conclusion! Maybe this buyer is fond of the smell of car exhaust fume, or car noises are lullaby to him. To each his own, as you singaporeans like to say.
Or maybe he is chinese tycoon, and 125k is peanuts for him. You know, the chinese have too much money to spend now. if so, give me some please.
Maybe cos CW only has 240 units compared to VP which has more than 700
devilplate
13-08-10, 15:29
No transactions for CW in June,
only 1 in May.
In July, there is 3 transactions just published by URA:
90 West Coast Road #03-48
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$923 psf
1625 sqft
$1500k
16 Jul 10
82 West Coast Road #02-29
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$972 psf
1625 sqft
$1580k
15 Jul 10
88 West Coast Road #03-37
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$1000 psf
1625 sqft
$1625k
12 Jul 10
Looking at #03-48 unit vs #03-37, same size, sam level, similar facing...
In fact #03-37 is less desirable as it is too close to Clementi road (vs west coast road)...
Wow the buyer pay $125K more for a less desirable unit!!!
Wow what a difference in 4 days can make... or the buyer did not do his/her own research and depended on the agents...
how come i nvr come across such buyer:(
are you sure cannot find ?
there are still so many FH condo along PP thats reasonably new and below 1000 psf ...
personally i dun look at nor buy LH condos .. especially in a bull run .. you always buy high ..at times same psf as FH ..
but when mkt turns, or when it gets older..it will fall faster, or increase less and slower ..
CW is not the best condo there anyway .. esp when its LH ..
Or Really?? Got many in PP less than 1000psf and new, wow I will be interested to know which one, can you name me a few or at least one irregardless of LH or FH???:D
chanelprincess34
13-08-10, 22:00
Maybe cos CW only has 240 units compared to VP which has more than 700
VP has 530 units and not 700 units....
proud owner
13-08-10, 22:14
Or Really?? Got many in PP less than 1000psf and new, wow I will be interested to know which one, can you name me a few or at least one irregardless of LH or FH???:D
look between clementi road and south buona vista rd
...
I was there when CW launched. Didn't get a unit that time but instead invested in VP, Stellar, resale at BH, WB and another one near Haw Par villa. I thought CW was too ex when it launched but we all know now that from 600+ psf it has almost doubled since (so now I regret lor). But VP and Stellar were only 500+ when launched. BH and WB were going for a song at 500+ and below. Almost got Treasure Place also (nearly 700psf then). I saw the potential at West Coast at that time although I think the park is one of the worst in Singapore. There are three other beach parks I am keen but I think East Coast and Sentosa are overvalued now. The only undervalued place is Pasir Ris but IMO this place will hit par with current WC prices soon. Why? IMO:
- prices way below the other 3 beach parks (lots of upside more to come)
- near to MRT
- close to foreign schools
- close to so many malls
- one MRT stop to Tampines regional centre
- 20 mins MRT to Paya Lebar future business centre
- 30 mins MRT to CBD
- true suburbia living
So now I am starting to put 50% of my investment there in what I believe is still undervalued. The other 50%? I think I will bet on a couple in central fringes and maybe 1 expensive one in city area. Still can't decide on the Arte.
Sembawang is another park but this is far north I think so harder to call. haven't really researched this place but if Pasir Ris takes off (like 1000psf average), then I think next up is Sembawang for undervalued investment.
be very careful of where in sembawang. try and rent a air quality tester for a day from one of the sim lim tower places. then go there during the afternoon on a weekday and take readings.
last weekend saw an old couple allowing their grandson peeing to the lap pool......so disgusting.......the pool is just like the public toilet bowl to them.
also seeing some ang mo kits letting their dog playing with the pool water......
No transactions for CW in June,
only 1 in May.
In July, there is 3 transactions just published by URA:
90 West Coast Road #03-48
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$923 psf
1625 sqft
$1500k
16 Jul 10
82 West Coast Road #02-29
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$972 psf
1625 sqft
$1580k
15 Jul 10
88 West Coast Road #03-37
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$1000 psf
1625 sqft
$1625k
12 Jul 10
Looking at #03-48 unit vs #03-37, same size, sam level, similar facing...
In fact #03-37 is less desirable as it is too close to Clementi road (vs west coast road)...
Wow the buyer pay $125K more for a less desirable unit!!!
Wow what a difference in 4 days can make... or the buyer did not do his/her own research and depended on the agents...
You make a mistake...03-48 is the unit facing the road and not 03-37 which is facing the woods.
stalingrad
17-08-10, 10:07
last weekend saw an old couple allowing their grandson peeing to the lap pool......so disgusting.......the pool is just like the public toilet bowl to them.
also seeing some ang mo kits letting their dog playing with the pool water......
can you blame the old couple? the narrow strip of water does look like a toilet to them. if your lap top pool were much wider, the chance of such mistakes would be zero.
vipersiao888
17-08-10, 10:12
last weekend saw an old couple allowing their grandson peeing to the lap pool......so disgusting.......the pool is just like the public toilet bowl to them.
also seeing some ang mo kits letting their dog playing with the pool water......
This is about educating and tolerance. The MC (mgmt committe which will be form later) will have to implement strict rules and regulations to reduce these nonsence. The usual complains like dogs poo poo everywhere, residents throwing litter to the ground unit, residents displaying undies on balcony, uncontrollable kids making noise in the middle of the night etc etc. All these issues can be resolved. But my biggest worry for CW is the main entrance which will be a nighmare when all the residents move in. :banghead:
You make a mistake...03-48 is the unit facing the road and not 03-37 which is facing the woods.
I think #03-37 faces some woods but also one side is just next to clementi road.
#03-48 has a some buffer distance from west coast road and faces the lap pool...
would like to know how is the asking pice (psf) for 3 bedroom at CW now?
hardly see any transection recently for3 bedroom.
I think #03-37 faces some woods but also one side is just next to clementi road.
#03-48 has a some buffer distance from west coast road and faces the lap pool...
would like to know how is the asking pice (psf) for 3 bedroom at CW now?
hardly see any transection recently for3 bedroom.
You can check propertyguru and streetsine...
Most sellers are asking $1150++ even for 3BR, but general buyer demand are at the $950++ level for this 99yrs LH,
so explains not much transactions...
This is about educating and tolerance. The MC (mgmt committe which will be form later) will have to implement strict rules and regulations to reduce these nonsence. The usual complains like dogs poo poo everywhere, residents throwing litter to the ground unit, residents displaying undies on balcony, uncontrollable kids making noise in the middle of the night etc etc. All these issues can be resolved. But my biggest worry for CW is the main entrance which will be a nighmare when all the residents move in. :banghead:
There is enough space ( 10m of grass n path between CW gate n West Coast Road) to create a right turn lane in front of CW if needed. Anyway with 200+ units n probably less than 200 cars n efficient security guards also acting as traffic warden;) it won't be chaos even if there is a jam.:cool:
I think #03-37 faces some woods but also one side is just next to clementi road.
#03-48 has a some buffer distance from west coast road and faces the lap pool...
Clementi Road is almost 1km away:doh:
stalingrad
17-08-10, 11:37
No. you can hear a lot of noise from clementi road from the cw condo. I jog in cw park regularly, and sometimes the noise from clementi road is loud and unbearable. it is a very very busy road plied by heavy vehicles.
Some units at CW condo are only 100 meters from clementi road. Stack 37 is one example.
Clementi Road is almost 1km away:doh:
Did you check the map?
The furthest distance between West Coast Road and Clementi Road,
with CW in-between, is only about 300m!!
See the purple 1KM radius from the map of:
http://streetsine.com/main.html#postalcode-126810-CND
Unless CW is situated somewhere else, it can't be 1KM away...
Anyway I am referring to the unit #03-37 is the nearest to the side of Clementi road.
last weekend saw an old couple allowing their grandson peeing to the lap pool......so disgusting.......the pool is just like the public toilet bowl to them.
also seeing some ang mo kits letting their dog playing with the pool water......
Last wkend was at my friend's unit at CW, while at the balcony saw the opposite unit hanging her bras so opening at the balcony i counted altogether got 4 bras to be exact. :tsk-tsk:
Last wkend was at my friend's unit at CW, while at the balcony saw the opposite unit hanging her bras so opening at the balcony i counted altogether got 4 bras to be exact. :tsk-tsk:
Wa.. you say like that... sure got lotsa NTU male 1st choice for rentals :p
Is ClementiWoods tenants more of the NUS/NTU student/academic profile?
devilplate
17-08-10, 18:42
this project quite power...hit ard 1kpsf for a 99LH w/o MRT...
i nvr view b4...but how come prices still holds up after TOP despite so many bad comments?
this project quite power...hit ard 1kpsf for a 99LH w/o MRT...
i nvr view b4...but how come prices still holds up after TOP despite so many bad comments?
Usually price increase even more after TOP, then before TOP lah :) ... as you now have to "priced in" the "additional benefits" to buyer being able to view the unit...vs on paper floor plan.
Nevertheless, I see just 1-2 or no transactions (e.g. zero in June) per month in the last few months...
Sellers asking generally not meeting Buyers bidding prices...
Last wkend was at my friend's unit at CW, while at the balcony saw the opposite unit hanging her bras so opening at the balcony i counted altogether got 4 bras to be exact. :tsk-tsk:
haha, u still remember what color is the bra? would have to check with the maid she hang the bra at the balcony last weekend......:tongue3:
there is a unit facing the park fence up the entire balcony..cool...i guess he cannot stand pple like u watching and counting pple undiess... hehe
haha, u still remember what color is the bra? would have to check with the maid she hang the bra at the balcony last weekend......:tongue3:
there is a unit facing the park fence up the entire balcony..cool...i guess he cannot stand pple like u watching and counting pple undiess... hehe
I not like you so ti ko and pervert. You probably dream of smelling it right, scarly it is not a young lady ahh a lau ah ma one ahh, you still want????
Btw i dont stay there, all reserve for you.:D
proud owner
17-08-10, 22:47
Wa.. you say like that... sure got lotsa NTU male 1st choice for rentals :p
Is ClementiWoods tenants more of the NUS/NTU student/academic profile?
why NTU ??
how far is NTU from CW ?
proud owner
17-08-10, 22:48
last weekend saw an old couple allowing their grandson peeing to the lap pool......so disgusting.......the pool is just like the public toilet bowl to them.
also seeing some ang mo kits letting their dog playing with the pool water......
are you an owner ??
whether you are or not .. its everyone's social responsibility to educate these people ..
you should tell them off ..
follow them to the unit and tell off to the parents of the kid as well
Usually price increase even more after TOP, then before TOP lah :) ... as you now have to "priced in" the "additional benefits" to buyer being able to view the unit...vs on paper floor plan.
Nevertheless, I see just 1-2 or no transactions (e.g. zero in June) per month in the last few months...
Sellers asking generally not meeting Buyers bidding prices...
like how most people buy in Malaysia, must see first!:D
this project quite power...hit ard 1kpsf for a 99LH w/o MRT...
i nvr view b4...but how come prices still holds up after TOP despite so many bad comments?
Lorong Chuan 's Scala $1170 psf average, Terrence at Toh Tuck rd $1300 psf, Clementiwoods would be higher n have more transactions if not for the many bad comments.
devilplate
17-08-10, 23:42
Lorong Chuan 's Scala $1170 psf average, Terrence at Toh Tuck rd $1300 psf, Clementiwoods would be higher n have more transactions if not for the many bad comments.
if u use record new launch prices to compare....everywhr is a bargain:doh:
Just one thing I am really don't understand is why is other wuloo places like lorong chuan, serangoon new launches hitting 1100psf+++ or higher when CW and neighbouring projects like VP, Stellar, Carabelle, Infinity etc etc not able to get the same kind of psf. If you compare location wise, D5 is within proximity to the city with easy access to major highways, near to good schools, good amenities etc etc.:banghead: :doh:
if u use record new launch prices to compare....everywhr is a bargain:doh:
This may be a good sign for those older development near these new launches hitting new high psf. They will be enbloc one day and redevelop with smaller units. Developers make more $ and prospective home buyers pay more in $psf.
Just one thing I am really don't understand is why is other wuloo places like lorong chuan, serangoon new launches hitting 1100psf+++ or higher when CW and neighbouring projects like VP, Stellar, Carabelle, Infinity etc etc not able to get the same kind of psf. If you compare location wise, D5 is within proximity to the city with easy access to major highways, near to good schools, good amenities etc etc.:banghead: :doh:
Cw is considered on the west side isn't it?
One thing you have to understand is that Lor Chuan is near the central area of the island. It is easy to go anywhere from Lor Chuan. Whereas D5 is only near to the city but located more to the west.
Lor Chuan envelopes an area of private houses with Braddell Road. Many of the houses there have been flattened and rebuilt. Some of them are pretty posh houses. When I drove past, saw someone in bikini drinking wine in her own pool in the afternoon.
The value could have spill over...Even in the crisis, The Chuan lowest psf was 850 - 900psf. So what can you expect?
Just one thing I am really don't understand is why is other wuloo places like lorong chuan, serangoon new launches hitting 1100psf+++ or higher when CW and neighbouring projects like VP, Stellar, Carabelle, Infinity etc etc not able to get the same kind of psf. If you compare location wise, D5 is within proximity to the city with easy access to major highways, near to good schools, good amenities etc etc.:banghead: :doh:
singaporewoman
18-08-10, 09:57
Just one thing I am really don't understand is why is other wuloo places like lorong chuan, serangoon new launches hitting 1100psf+++ or higher when CW and neighbouring projects like VP, Stellar, Carabelle, Infinity etc etc not able to get the same kind of psf. If you compare location wise, D5 is within proximity to the city with easy access to major highways, near to good schools, good amenities etc etc.:banghead: :doh:
CW near any good school meh?:beats-me-man:
CW near any good school meh?:beats-me-man:
ah chuan lagi more!:D
CW near any good school meh?:beats-me-man:
Near National University (best "school" in Spore;) ) , United World College, Spore Poly n NUS (Sec school for top students in science n Maths ), ACS n ACJC in Dover.
But it is true no good primary school nearby , so more convenient for those with teenage children studying in NUS n Poly.:cheers1:
Anyone advise where is the location of the upcoming MRT station closest to CW besides the one at pasir panjang/NUH(Kent Ridge)?
The developer mentioned that there will be one at junction between clementi road and west coast rd............
is nan hua within 1 km from CW?
Near National University (best "school" in Spore;) ) , United World College, Spore Poly n NUS (Sec school for top students in science n Maths ), ACS n ACJC in Dover.
But it is true no good primary school nearby , so more convenient for those with teenage children studying in NUS n Poly.:cheers1:
Nan Hwa is very far away.
Nearest decent pri sch is QIFA. Got top PSLE student from there before...but this scholar originally from CHINA hor...
stalingrad
18-08-10, 15:10
Nan Hwa is very far away.
Nearest decent pri sch is QIFA. Got top PSLE student from there before...but this scholar originally from CHINA hor...
but even qifa is far away from cw condo. about 6 bus stops away.
Is it a decent school? I registered my kid for that school, but did not enroll him in that school. Don't ask me why.
i think it is one of the pupular primary school in sin.
but even qifa is far away from cw condo. about 6 bus stops away.
Is it a decent school? I registered my kid for that school, but did not enroll him in that school. Don't ask me why.
Anyone advise where is the location of the upcoming MRT station closest to CW besides the one at pasir panjang/NUH(Kent Ridge)?
The developer mentioned that there will be one at junction between clementi road and west coast rd............
Who mentioned that there will be a MRT at the junction of clementi rd and west coast rd??
Did you see any underground construction activities going on near that junction area???
I did not see any.
The developer has made a false statement.
Even propertyguru website made the same mistake for some months and recently corrected it - they map pasir panjang station at that junction, when in fact is it between haw par villa and labador park,
thus deceiving a lot of their website readers about the condos near this junction, e.g. naming PP MRT within 500m of CW, VP, Stellar, etc, when it fact it doesn't exists there.
can we sue the developer for the false statement????
Who mentioned that there will be a MRT at the junction of clementi rd and west coast rd??
Did you see any underground construction activities going on near that junction area???
I did not see any.
The developer has made a false statement.
Even propertyguru website made the same mistake for some months and recently corrected it - they map pasir panjang station at that junction, when in fact is it between haw par villa and labador park,
thus deceiving a lot of their website readers about the condos near this junction, e.g. naming PP MRT within 500m of CW, VP, Stellar, etc, when it fact it doesn't exists there.
stalingrad
18-08-10, 17:29
i think it is one of the pupular primary school in sin.
Haha, are you kidding? Qifa is not popular. Ever year it has many vacancies left after the registration period.
Nanhua is popular, so popular that balloting is required even for kids with volunteer moms. but nanhua is very far from CW, so far that CW is not even within the two-km radius of hanhua.
stalingrad
18-08-10, 17:37
can we sue the developer for the false statement????
you cannot sue them because back in 2007 no one knew where the mrt station would be built. there was a lot of speculations, most of them were wrong. the developer simply was guessing where the mrt station was going to be. of course, if the developer put their speculation on paper, you can sue them.
I m wondering why they did not extend the circle line to West Coast Road:beats-me-man: n name the station West Coast. The station at Haw Par Villa will be under utilise as there are very few people living there.:o
vipersiao888
19-08-10, 11:14
I m wondering why they did not extend the circle line to West Coast Road:beats-me-man: n name the station West Coast. The station at Haw Par Villa will be under utilise as there are very few people living there.:o
Maybe under utilise for the moment but I believed the govt have already got big plans under their sleeves at Haw Par Villa. Its anybody guess. Actually, it would have been really ideal for those staying within proximity if LTA build a MRT station next to Kent Ridge bus interchange. It should have been the case but the line was cut short and took a right turn up towards NUH. Its like almost hit 1st prize but the 4 digit no. jump. :banghead:
singaporewoman
19-08-10, 11:25
Near National University (best "school" in Spore;) ) , United World College, Spore Poly n NUS (Sec school for top students in science n Maths ), ACS n ACJC in Dover.
But it is true no good primary school nearby , so more convenient for those with teenage children studying in NUS n Poly.:cheers1:
CW's location is fantastic to me...actually, I were near to buy a unit in CW (or VP) last year but had to gave up at last minute due to lack of decent primary school for my kids. :doh:
[quote=calvenng]
How about for people that hang their underwear in the balcony they are also damaging the external facade.
I have install an indoor retractable laundry system with five 6 ft poles which fit nicely at my Wet kitchen/Yard area. My clothes all dry within one day rain or shine and it cost just $200+.:D
So actually most residents at CW even if they don't have a dryer can avoid drying their laundry at balcony/ patio by installing the retractable poles above their wet kitchen.:cheers1:
[quote=cher]
I have install an indoor retractable laundry system with five 6 ft poles which fit nicely at my Wet kitchen/Yard area. My clothes all dry within one day rain or shine and it cost just $200+.:D
So actually most residents at CW even if they don't have a dryer can avoid drying their laundry at balcony/ patio by installing the retractable poles above their wet kitchen.:cheers1:
Wow, so cheap and good ahh can share the shop name and number for all here:D
[quote=calvenng]
Wow, so cheap and good ahh can share the shop name and number for all here:D
better let others try out for a few months first .... good things are not cheap and cheap things are not good ...:D :D :D
[quote=calvenng]
Wow, so cheap and good ahh can share the shop name and number for all here:D
Can install over false ceilings at the kitchen??
Can PM contact?
Thks.
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Can install over false ceilings at the kitchen??
Can PM contact?
Thks.
Can only install at the Wet Kitchen Cement Ceiling
New creative Marketing Pte Ltd
Off Tel : 63822722 HP 94553539
They have a few choices, mine is the retractable indoor laundry hanger (powder coated with bracket)
Wa.. you say like that... sure got lotsa NTU male 1st choice for rentals :p
Is ClementiWoods tenants more of the NUS/NTU student/academic profile?
Hmm... I think you got it wrong... its Lao Auntie, Ah So or maybe Ah Ma's....
Need to verify the size lah..... :D
Did anyone request the developer to replace the frosted glass at the bathroom?
When the unit was handed over to me, the bathroom panel glasses were not completed at clean and are full of stubborn stains. Have requested for a cleaning but no action was taken till now.
anyone has the same problem and how to resolve that with the developer?
:doh: :banghead: :simmering:
Did anyone request the developer to replace the frosted glass at the bathroom?
When the unit was handed over to me, the bathroom panel glasses were not completed at clean and are full of stubborn stains. Have requested for a cleaning but no action was taken till now.
anyone has the same problem and how to resolve that with the developer?
:doh: :banghead: :simmering:
They will replace it only if it is cracked or scratched, don't think it is their job to clean it for you.:D
so far China Con has been very responsive to fix all my defaults and sometimes more....
Give the guy in charge of your block a call. Or go to the office to get the forms and arrange appointment to go through.
When the workers come to fix certain faults, they do provide extra services like trimming/ smoothening/ cleaning/ etc etc.
But the dirt outside the windows are a bit hard to prevent lah. Even if they clean for you today, another month or so dirty again... cement stains you probably can scratch out yourself...
Did anyone request the developer to replace the frosted glass at the bathroom?
When the unit was handed over to me, the bathroom panel glasses were not completed at clean and are full of stubborn stains. Have requested for a cleaning but no action was taken till now.
anyone has the same problem and how to resolve that with the developer?
:doh: :banghead: :simmering:
use some thinner and minimum strength will do. I suggest you don't bother the contractor on this. Too minor and in the progress dirty other thing.
so far China Con has been very responsive to fix all my defaults and sometimes more....
Give the guy in charge of your block a call. Or go to the office to get the forms and arrange appointment to go through.
When the workers come to fix certain faults, they do provide extra services like trimming/ smoothening/ cleaning/ etc etc.
But the dirt outside the windows are a bit hard to prevent lah. Even if they clean for you today, another month or so dirty again... cement stains you probably can scratch out yourself...
China con has to be responsive. Some "influential" ppl in CW made noise to FCL/China Con. Supplement with some owners that refuse to takeover.
If you are staying in blk 88, you can expect even better response. lol.. hahahah...
PS: To that "influential" guy, if you are reading this, yes. it you. Mr N, hahhahah.. get your butt to rsyc.
wow... should vote him mcst chairman then. hahaha.. chinacon even responds to emails and sms without paper job requests. Good job so far.
Realised that there isn't any machine for training the abdomen/belly such as sit up bench etc.
Yup, have to use the gym ball or floor mat. Wanna suggest to the MA? I also think should have some ab machines.
I have sent an email to the management but no one to attend and reply to me.
I think email 'complaints' are documented but nothing beats going to the office to talk to them.
proud owner
14-09-10, 21:58
I think email 'complaints' are documented but nothing beats going to the office to talk to them.
the condo just TOP ..
you can suggest but i am pretty sure they wont give you the ball or mat
seriously .. if every owner comes with their 'wish list' ..then how ?
if you have a belly ..its the food you eat ..
if yuo want 6 pecs, the machine is there ..
if you want to lose wait .. cannot ask mgtm to provide "south beach Diet
' right ?
maybe wait a few more years .. after you form your own mgmt committee
then you can request .. right now .. its quite impossible
Wait for 1 year and it may come.
It maintainence fee building time.
1st year under developer/builder.
2nd year under MCST.
On the 13th month after TOP you will start to see all the changes and nice thing. Thats when lift covering could be remove and everything/anything will be disbursed via MCST fund.
the condo just TOP ..
you can suggest but i am pretty sure they wont give you the ball or mat
seriously .. if every owner comes with their 'wish list' ..then how ?
if you have a belly ..its the food you eat ..
if yuo want 6 pecs, the machine is there ..
if you want to lose wait .. cannot ask mgtm to provide "south beach Diet
' right ?
maybe wait a few more years .. after you form your own mgmt committee
then you can request .. right now .. its quite impossible
Did I see wrongly? There were 2 traffic wardens outside CW yesterday evening around 7pm. Wow thats nice right?
proud owner
17-09-10, 12:26
Did I see wrongly? There were 2 traffic wardens outside CW yesterday evening around 7pm. Wow thats nice right?
what happened ?
they have problem turning into the condo ?
ai ya ya
Did I see wrongly? There were 2 traffic wardens outside CW yesterday evening around 7pm. Wow thats nice right?
I think it's for the Japanese school children crossing the road. Cars travelling there can be quite fast sometimes. Also noticed that recently a few road bumps were added to the stretch of road to West Coast Plaza.
I stay in VP by the way.
proud owner
17-09-10, 22:39
I think it's for the Japanese school children crossing the road. Cars travelling there can be quite fast sometimes. Also noticed that recently a few road bumps were added to the stretch of road to West Coast Plaza.
I stay in VP by the way.
so the traffic warden has always been there ? or something new ?
but why 7pm ? isnt that a bit late to guide traffic for students ?
so the traffic warden has always been there ? or something new ?
but why 7pm ? isnt that a bit late to guide traffic for students ?
Only saw it once last week, 2 wardens controlling traffic for the Japanese students around 7pm, not sure if it's permanent or ad hoc event.
vipersiao888
20-09-10, 10:35
Hi LuckyTan,
Since you mention you are a owner of VP. I am always curious to know whats the rationale for owners to buy 99LH knowing for the fact that as the project becomes older, the value of the property will also depreciate as compared to FH. I have heard people telling me that they are buying for own stay but I am sure one would also like to see their property appreciate in prices rather than going down. To put on record, I have viewed VP a few time and I really fell in love with the greenery and big area which IMO is good for families like myself with young children. But I am still having 2nd thoughts about LH which I really don't feel comfortable to buy at the moment. Yr thoughts appreciated.
Hi LuckyTan,
Since you mention you are a owner of VP. I am always curious to know whats the rationale for owners to buy 99LH knowing for the fact that as the project becomes older, the value of the property will also depreciate as compared to FH. I have heard people telling me that they are buying for own stay but I am sure one would also like to see their property appreciate in prices rather than going down. To put on record, I have viewed VP a few time and I really fell in love with the greenery and big area which IMO is good for families like myself with young children. But I am still having 2nd thoughts about LH which I really don't feel comfortable to buy at the moment. Yr thoughts appreciated.
Hi, my thoughts are very simple. When I bought VP in 06 I was buying for own stay (we also love the place as you did). Generally prices for FH is about 20% higher than 99LH at the same area. So I was thinking whether I should pay for the 20% premium upfront or just go for a lower priced LH. I intend to stay long term, 20-30 years maybe. I'm not sure how the price will 'depreciate' by then. Anyway time value of money tells me that I'm better off putting the 20% savings to other uses. Even if I were to rent it out the yield is higher for LH than FH (rental is dependent on location, condition and size, not so much on LH or FH).
I bought VP in 06 for S$4xx psf. I believe now is about S$900-1,000 psf on average. Even my next door project which is FH is selling about the same price. Barring any unforeseen circumstances, I don't think the price will fall below my cost in the next few years. In any case, since I have no intention of selling, appreciation or depreciation of price does not affect me at all, as these are just paper profit or loss.
Just my thoughts since you asked. :)
Hi, my thoughts are very simple. When I bought VP in 06 I was buying for own stay (we also love the place as you did). Generally prices for FH is about 20% higher than 99LH at the same area. So I was thinking whether I should pay for the 20% premium upfront or just go for a lower priced LH. I intend to stay long term, 20-30 years maybe. I'm not sure how the price will 'depreciate' by then. Anyway time value of money tells me that I'm better off putting the 20% savings to other uses. Even if I were to rent it out the yield is higher for LH than FH (rental is dependent on location, condition and size, not so much on LH or FH).
you are absolutely right ~ :o
vipersiao888
20-09-10, 11:19
Thanks for your thoughts and you are really indeed LuckyTan for having the foresight to go in at 4xxx psf which I also agreed that even with recession, the psf may probably fall to your breakeven price, ie more than 50% drop from the current asking of 900-1000psf.
Almost forgot about rental yield until you remind me and I believed with the proximity to NUS, Japs schools and polys, you should be confident about renting it out without much difficulty.
Saw a 2bedder (main pool facing) a couple of months back and owner is asking 1200psf which is IMO high but the view is really nice with such a cosy resort feel. I am actually in a dileama btwn FH and LH in choosing our dream home.
Thanks for your thoughts and you are really indeed LuckyTan for having the foresight to go in at 4xxx psf which I also agreed that even with recession, the psf may probably fall to your breakeven price, ie more than 50% drop from the current asking of 900-1000psf.
Almost forgot about rental yield until you remind me and I believed with the proximity to NUS, Japs schools and polys, you should be confident about renting it out without much difficulty.
Saw a 2bedder (main pool facing) a couple of months back and owner is asking 1200psf which is IMO high but the view is really nice with such a cosy resort feel. I am actually in a dileama btwn FH and LH in choosing our dream home.
Yes, the rental is quite good in VP, demand is quite high, my 3 bedroom unit can get about S$5k+ rental income. Considering my cost, the yield is actually quite decent. Too bad we love the place very much and don't intend to rent it out :)
Assuming pricing is reasonable and doesn't create additional financial burden, if you are buying your dream home which you intend to stay for the next phase of your life, I think getting one you really like is more important than considering whether it's LH or FH. The 'depreciation' may or may not happen and anyway it's many years down the road. Just enjoy the present. :)
vipersiao888
20-09-10, 12:15
Yes, the rental is quite good in VP, demand is quite high, my 3 bedroom unit can get about S$5k+ rental income. Considering my cost, the yield is actually quite decent. Too bad we love the place very much and don't intend to rent it out :)
Assuming pricing is reasonable and doesn't create additional financial burden, if you are buying your dream home which you intend to stay for the next phase of your life, I think getting one you really like is more important than considering whether it's LH or FH. The 'depreciation' may or may not happen and anyway it's many years down the road. Just enjoy the present. :)
Wow, the rental yield at VP is pretty handsome. Yes, the agent also told us about the good rental yield at VP.
We also noticed during our last visit that the ethnic mix is rather good, saw Caucasians, Japs, Indians, Chinese etc etc which is a plus for VP. I was hanging too long at the main pool watching the bikini babes suntanning until my wife had to pull my ears to move off. Joke aside, I will consider now LH which will give us more options in getting our dream home.
VP is VERY nice. Just take a walk inside and you'll understand why people pay more/equivalent for it than Stellar which is FH. CW needs some more life injected into it as people start to move in. IMO Stellar layout and decor really lose out. The proximity of units is also a big turn off.
vipersiao888
20-09-10, 15:06
VP is VERY nice. Just take a walk inside and you'll understand why people pay more/equivalent for it than Stellar which is FH. CW needs some more life injected into it as people start to move in. IMO Stellar layout and decor really lose out. The proximity of units is also a big turn off.
Hi kumkeet, yes I agree that the surrounding greenery for VP against Stella is miles apart as I have view both VP and Stella on a few occassions. And you have just reminded me about the freehold status of stella which I am puzzled cos the psf between the 2 is unusually no diff. Pardon me for my shallow knowledge on condos, I thought it should be about 20% diff between FH and LH and the fact that both projects are just sitting next to each other. But I must say VP's many strength beats Stella miles away.
One more thing I must admit that the residents at VP are very friendly. I had bump into a few strangers there and they just say Hi and smile which is rather surprisingly pleasant. Usually, you will get those dirty strange looks during viewing.:doh:
Wow, the rental yield at VP is pretty handsome. Yes, the agent also told us about the good rental yield at VP.
We also noticed during our last visit that the ethnic mix is rather good, saw Caucasians, Japs, Indians, Chinese etc etc which is a plus for VP. I was hanging too long at the main pool watching the bikini babes suntanning until my wife had to pull my ears to move off. Joke aside, I will consider now LH which will give us more options in getting our dream home.
Hopefully you can find your dream home soon in VP or CW, either way we'll be neighbours :)
Hi kumkeet, yes I agree that the surrounding greenery for VP against Stella is miles apart as I have view both VP and Stella on a few occassions. And you have just reminded me about the freehold status of stella which I am puzzled cos the psf between the 2 is unusually no diff. Pardon me for my shallow knowledge on condos, I thought it should be about 20% diff between FH and LH and the fact that both projects are just sitting next to each other. But I must say VP's many strength beats Stella miles away.
One more thing I must admit that the residents at VP are very friendly. I had bump into a few strangers there and they just say Hi and smile which is rather surprisingly pleasant. Usually, you will get those dirty strange looks during viewing.:doh:
The launch price of Stellar was initially about 20% over VP, but the gap soon closed up after Stellar got TOP. Maybe the location also played a part (Stellar is closer to the road junction).
Ya the residents in VP are generally very friendly. I guess the open concept and resort feel makes people more relaxed, like strolling in a park :)
vipersiao888
20-09-10, 15:57
The launch price of Stellar was initially about 20% over VP, but the gap soon closed up after Stellar got TOP. Maybe the location also played a part (Stellar is closer to the road junction).
Ya the residents in VP are generally very friendly. I guess the open concept and resort feel makes people more relaxed, like strolling in a park :)
Thats a good closeup of 20% between a FH and LH "side by side" project in a short span of 2 years and I am sure all the VP residents will be pleased about it. FengShiu wise, I saw some positive write up from a master about VP which is also good for the future of VP.
Yes, the agent took us for a long stroll at VP and I must the complex is very huge. I noticed the plants are very green and nice, guess the mgmt have done a good job maintaining the plants. I particularly like the main pool and it reminds me of a lovely resort we have been to in Hawaii.
Too bad, the asking price at above 1000psf is on the high side for us but we will continue to look out for good bargains, if any. Hope my waiting will not be futile and short.
Only saw it once last week, 2 wardens controlling traffic for the Japanese students around 7pm, not sure if it's permanent or ad hoc event.
The traffic controllers actually stopped traffic to allow me to turn right into the condo... wow...
we are the owner of the unit and are relocated.
looking for serious tenant to rent the fully furnished unit.....
well renovated
interested party please reply privately to me!!!
phantom_opera
23-04-13, 14:13
no interest in this project?! price hit 1358psf liao
2013-02-08 #XX-XX 560sqft 1,358psf 2007-02-06 679 380,240 2,194 12.2
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