View Full Version : Clementiwoods (D5, 99 years leasehold, Frasers Centrepoint)
proud owner
02-07-09, 22:10
New projects can ask for sky high price if the bank support them. Buyers only pay 5% cash and 15% from CPF or cash and with this they can afford, they don't feel the pain till TOP. After TOP, they will be paying something like $4,000 to $5,000 every month, if they loan 80% of 1 mill, depend on the no. of years for the repayment.
If you think you can afford than go and buy, but don't regret later when the price fall as so many condos is going to TOP this year. Correct me if I am wrong, how many people can afford to pay $4K to $5K a month just on housing loan for this mass market condo.
agree
also to Lucas ..like you said ..its beginning to be like 2007 ...
also dont forget what happened after that in 2008 and 2009
same thing can happen ... i am not saying prices will fall but if can retrace ... why chase ... i am no guru in property market .. but i NEVER chase the mkt .. for the last 10 years i have bought and sold at least 5 properties never lost money .. never chase, nver lost
agree
also to Lucas ..like you said ..its beginning to be like 2007 ...
also dont forget what happened after that in 2008 and 2009
same thing can happen ... i am not saying prices will fall but if can retrace ... why chase ... i am no guru in property market .. but i NEVER chase the mkt .. for the last 10 years i have bought and sold at least 5 properties never lost money .. never chase, nver lost
Very true!!!! Never, never, never chase now, Singapore is only RECOVERING now not RECOVERED. People now is paying recovered price. WHY, WHY,WHY....Prices now is at end 2007 and early 2008 when the economy is at it peak before it slump in oct 2008. It still a long time to go before the real economy pick up.
proud owner
02-07-09, 23:10
Very true!!!! Never, never, never chase now, Singapore is only RECOVERING now not RECOVERED. People now is paying recovered price. WHY, WHY,WHY....Prices now is at end 2007 and early 2008 when the economy is at it peak before it slump in oct 2008. It still a long time to go before the real economy pick up.
i remember in 2007/8 so much talk about asia decoupling from USA .. look what happened ?? all buiishitting about decoupling ..we cant break away from the no 1 economy in the world ...
right now in US ..things are NOT recovering ..just decelerating deterioration ... come sep-dec ..maybe stabilises .. maybe worsen ...
and so many people ASSUMING IR will bring in shit loads of foreign single workers, who will rent Studio apt ?? hahah the tea lady in casino stay in studio apt ??? c'mon ...3 of them will share share rent a HDB flat at Tiong Bahru ... u think they care if got pool and gym ??
all too optimistic ...
good to be optimistic ..but make sure you GET OUT of your investment before it IR completes ... cos reality may not be what you perceive it to be now ..
i remember in 2007/8 so much talk about asia decoupling from USA .. look what happened ?? all buiishitting about decoupling ..we cant break away from the no 1 economy in the world ...
right now in US ..things are NOT recovering ..just decelerating deterioration ... come sep-dec ..maybe stabilises .. maybe worsen ...
and so many people ASSUMING IR will bring in shit loads of foreign single workers, who will rent Studio apt ?? hahah the tea lady in casino stay in studio apt ??? c'mon ...3 of them will share share rent a HDB flat at Tiong Bahru ... u think they care if got pool and gym ??
all too optimistic ...
good to be optimistic ..but make sure you GET OUT of your investment before it IR completes ... cos reality may not be what you perceive it to be now ..
Personally I also think that there are over supplied of studio apt. already. They may not able to find tenants unless is cheap rent, like $1000 or less.
anyone wants to sell 2+study or 2 bedroom unit below 700psf? i'm not agent
proud owner
07-07-09, 20:35
anyone wants to sell 2+study or 2 bedroom unit below 700psf? i'm not agent
if you are asking about clementiwoods i will be surprised anyone bothered to reoply u
why dont u look at the 99LY condos ( CW also 99 yr) between CW and Blue Horizon ?? the older ones ..
after all its about the same area ..
if you are asking about clementiwoods i will be surprised anyone bothered to reoply u
why dont u look at the 99LY condos ( CW also 99 yr) between CW and Blue Horizon ?? the older ones ..
after all its about the same area ..
Hey pal, you sound like you are offering alternative vegetables to a HOUSEWIFE at a wet market... :p
proud owner
08-07-09, 01:35
Hey pal, you sound like you are offering alternative vegetables to a HOUSEWIFE at a wet market... :p
ahahha
what to do ... an auntie asking for Brocolli at <700 psf ..so i offered her some cheaper alternatives within her budget range .. like Cauliflower ...
stalingrad
08-07-09, 10:15
ahahha
what to do ... an auntie asking for Brocolli at <700 psf ..so i offered her some cheaper alternatives within her budget range .. like Cauliflower ...
the auntie could've bought CW at less than 700 psf two months ago. She did not do it because she thought price would go lower. Now prices have gone up, she wanted to pay the prices that prevailed two months ago. You see my drift? She will never buy anything. She is always chasing past prices.
the auntie could've bought CW at less than 700 psf two months ago. She did not do it because she thought price would go lower. Now prices have gone up, she wanted to pay the prices that prevailed two months ago. You see my drift? She will never buy anything. She is always chasing past prices.
No lah, really seriously tried in Feb. but agent only showed 1 blue horizon, 1 varsity park, 2 westcove, all 2bedders. u know what price? westcove seller said they bought at 760k yrs ago, hinting asking much more than that, so we didn't bother to ask price. varsity park 1m. we knew the transaction price at that time. dunno y sellers ask for such high price, think we stupid or rich foreigner or wait 4 us to counter off super low? no clementiwoods. agent said will contact us if more units come up. heard nothing later. couldn't wait forever, so started to look again in june. looked for sb we knew b4 as agent. waited for 2 wks gave me nothing. then had to contacts agents on guru with cw units available. could definitely get cw units below 700psf then but not satisfied with location, floor, facing coz it's for own stay. then asking price jumps. but last weekend got one 2+1 685psf w/o agent but our decision maker (and cheque also) not around so missed.
thanx if u bother to read so long till here. wrote so much coz want to consult u experts here c what i could have done earlier to avoid current situation. i've been thinking every day myself but i'm inexperienced. u guys must have a better idea. should i have searched more aggressively by contacting more agents in Feb? (didn't look for more coz when we bought our first condo, agent got angry that we contacted a seller's agent directly). not sure if it's common practice. should i have offered price we target at no matter what seller asks for in Feb? where to search for more available units now? obviously different agent has different units. guy pls help
No lah, really seriously tried in Feb. but agent only showed 1 blue horizon, 1 varsity park, 2 westcove, all 2bedders. u know what price? westcove seller said they bought at 760k yrs ago, hinting asking much more than that, so we didn't bother to ask price. varsity park 1m. we knew the transaction price at that time. dunno y sellers ask for such high price, think we stupid or rich foreigner or wait 4 us to counter off super low? no clementiwoods. agent said will contact us if more units come up. heard nothing later. couldn't wait forever, so started to look again in june. looked for sb we knew b4 as agent. waited for 2 wks gave me nothing. then had to contacts agents on guru with cw units available. could definitely get cw units below 700psf then but not satisfied with location, floor, facing coz it's for own stay. then asking price jumps. but last weekend got one 2+1 685psf w/o agent but our decision maker (and cheque also) not around so missed.
thanx if u bother to read so long till here. wrote so much coz want to consult u experts here c what i could have done earlier to avoid current situation. i've been thinking every day myself but i'm inexperienced. u guys must have a better idea. should i have searched more aggressively by contacting more agents in Feb? (didn't look for more coz when we bought our first condo, agent got angry that we contacted a seller's agent directly). not sure if it's common practice. should i have offered price we target at no matter what seller asks for in Feb? where to search for more available units now? obviously different agent has different units. guy pls help
hey, I understand how you feel coz I encountered similar situations since early this year too...was looking for units at West Coast but I think during that time no many sellers throw out those units that I wanted... so I wait and wait until now...
I also set a target price since Feb irregardless what sellers asked but they just refused to lower, the agents keep telling me all of them got holding power.
Anyway, like alot of ppl advised here either you bite the bullet and buy at market price now or you just continued to wait... :p
btw, guys, what do yal think is reasonable psf difference btw westcove and cw? 10%? 20%?
hsewife,
try these...asking for 700psf or below:
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/442903/for-sale-clementiwoods
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/440813/for-sale-clementiwoods
hsewife,
try these...asking for 700psf or below:
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/442903/for-sale-clementiwoods
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/440813/for-sale-clementiwoods
thanx novel. called both of them b4. so called "seller increase price" or "sold", but they keep updating the same thing on guru, so u know what's going on. thanx again.
thanx novel. called both of them b4. so called "seller increase price" or "sold", but they keep updating the same thing on guru, so u know what's going on. thanx again.
Propertyguru is nonsense, agents use that to get buyers contact and then market you other properties they have.
I have been scouting long before Feb actually. You need to spend the time to call as many agents as you can week after week. Call until the agents start to market the same units to you.
I view units until seller agent recognise me. I view units until agent say new listing but I have already seen it to the surprise of the agent. I view units until when agent say X price, i can tell him he does not know his market and proven right. I view units until every advertised unit in development I am aware at at what price.
Then you have a good feel of all the units available at this point in time and the prices. From there you can monitor the trend, the asking prices and the units that have been sold. You can make a good decision then.
Then you need to test the market support by offering. From there you will know the true selling price of the owner. You can offer lower or can offer at asking, just offer and see the response. If you have not offered to buy a unit, you will never know the true price cos it can be lower or even higher depending on the market.
For non top projects there are few units for sale until close to top date, therefore limiting your choice. This one you have to take a risk, either buy from the limited pool or wait to closer to top and pay higher prices.
If all this is too much work then you have to accept the units and prices that agents market to you. Definitely a smaller pool of units :(
woh thanx JohnTan! got courage to search harder.
John's right. Searching a property can be as long as 1-3 years before you chance upon one that you really like. Unless you have good reasons to buy one immediately (near school, no place to stay, take care of relative), even when prices are cheap, spouses and children will disagree on the ones they like. Even when property is cheap, buying something that is $300,000 and above is not a simple matter.
You need to be more patient and search more consistently. Treat it as nothing to do on weekends go and see house.
proud owner
08-07-09, 20:01
No lah, really seriously tried in Feb. but agent only showed 1 blue horizon, 1 varsity park, 2 westcove, all 2bedders. u know what price? westcove seller said they bought at 760k yrs ago, hinting asking much more than that, so we didn't bother to ask price. varsity park 1m. we knew the transaction price at that time. dunno y sellers ask for such high price, think we stupid or rich foreigner or wait 4 us to counter off super low? no clementiwoods. agent said will contact us if more units come up. heard nothing later. couldn't wait forever, so started to look again in june. looked for sb we knew b4 as agent. waited for 2 wks gave me nothing. then had to contacts agents on guru with cw units available. could definitely get cw units below 700psf then but not satisfied with location, floor, facing coz it's for own stay. then asking price jumps. but last weekend got one 2+1 685psf w/o agent but our decision maker (and cheque also) not around so missed.
thanx if u bother to read so long till here. wrote so much coz want to consult u experts here c what i could have done earlier to avoid current situation. i've been thinking every day myself but i'm inexperienced. u guys must have a better idea. should i have searched more aggressively by contacting more agents in Feb? (didn't look for more coz when we bought our first condo, agent got angry that we contacted a seller's agent directly). not sure if it's common practice. should i have offered price we target at no matter what seller asks for in Feb? where to search for more available units now? obviously different agent has different units. guy pls help
you should wait ..
today's news on the property tax gain will dampen the mkt ..
buyers should hold your horses ...
dead line Jan 2010 alot with mroe than 1 unit to sell will be rushing to sell before that ..
hold hold hold... though i have vested interest in purchasing properties, asking prices are pretty high at this time especially with more news coming, i.e property taxes and others unless u die die wanna get something or losing patient for property hunting.
hsewife,
try these...asking for 700psf or below:
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/442903/for-sale-clementiwoods
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/440813/for-sale-clementiwoods
But units are next to underground carpark entrance. Good Luck!
one buyer agreed to buy my westcove 3 bedder at 671psf. shall i sell? agent found us and offer price to buyer, we didn't ask for this price but it's beyond our expectation. but, opportunity cost is that we need to rent with expected rental of 40k b4 scheduled date to leave sing. headache.
proud owner
08-07-09, 23:06
one buyer agreed to buy my westcove 3 bedder at 671psf. shall i sell? agent found us and offer price to buyer, we didn't ask for this price but it's beyond our expectation. but, opportunity cost is that we need to rent with expected rental of 40k b4 scheduled date to leave sing. headache.
you are confusing me .. or is it just me ...
thought you looking to BUY clementiwoods ? and now you want to sell your westcove ?? and you leaving spore ??
you are confusing me .. or is it just me ...
thought you looking to BUY clementiwoods ? and now you want to sell your westcove ?? and you leaving spore ??
coz sister wanna buy clementiwoods coz it's new, myself have westcove and leaving. had agreed to sell westcove to sis at 600psf if she cannot find clementiwoods when i leave. now the offered price is so much higher...
:cheers5:
what a ride...:D :D :D
coz sister wanna buy clementiwoods coz it's new, myself have westcove and leaving. had agreed to sell westcove to sis at 600psf if she cannot find clementiwoods when i leave. now the offered price is so much higher...
one buyer agreed to buy my westcove 3 bedder at 671psf. shall i sell? agent found us and offer price to buyer, we didn't ask for this price but it's beyond our expectation. but, opportunity cost is that we need to rent with expected rental of 40k b4 scheduled date to leave sing. headache.
No one will tell you should you sell or not, you decide. You can take the price - $40k rental as your final selling price and work out your margins. You can decide after that.
Buy and sell are costly...
#03-04 2rm 1001 sqft sold at $750K $750 psf
#05-09 2rm 1076 sqft sold at $770K $715 psf
#03-04 2rm 1001 sqft sold at $750K $750 psf
#05-09 2rm 1076 sqft sold at $770K $715 psf
how come i cannot find such price. asking prices are higher and so-called nett. and didn't know these units for sale from many agents i've called. where to find more units for sale?
how come i cannot find such price. asking prices are higher and so-called nett. and didn't know these units for sale from many agents i've called. where to find more units for sale?
Well you could not find because they were already done deal in late June/early July... Now the price of 2 bedooms should still be hovering around $750 psf, from what I heard from some agents. But you are right to say that even if you ask the agent who advertised the unit in Clementiwoods, the agent either did not reply you or said that the seller had adjusted the price up:doh:
You experience such fustration too, right?
Well you could not find because they were already done deal in late June/early July... Now the price of 2 bedooms should still be hovering around $750 psf, from what I heard from some agents. But you are right to say that even if you ask the agent who advertised the unit in Clementiwoods, the agent either did not reply you or said that the seller had adjusted the price up:doh:
You experience such fustration too, right? I searched in early June already. i was searching for better facing etc but didn't hear these units. called many agents, they seem to have the same units now. wonder where to look for more. was prepared to pay that price but the right one just didn't show up. So-so ones that we finally want to consider, agent say owner don't want to sell now, or adjust u~~~p. wanna try 2 more wk then give up, cannot stretch budget forever
if you are not in hurry, wait, bubble already forming ..
I searched in early June already. i was searching for better facing etc but didn't hear these units. called many agents, they seem to have the same units now. wonder where to look for more. was prepared to pay that price but the right one just didn't show up. So-so ones that we finally want to consider, agent say owner don't want to sell now, or adjust u~~~p. wanna try 2 more wk then give up, cannot stretch budget forever
I searched in early June already. i was searching for better facing etc but didn't hear these units. called many agents, they seem to have the same units now. wonder where to look for more. was prepared to pay that price but the right one just didn't show up. So-so ones that we finally want to consider, agent say owner don't want to sell now, or adjust u~~~p. wanna try 2 more wk then give up, cannot stretch budget forever
You looking for which facing? I heard the ones left are those nearer to the road. I know there is a bus stop in front and I am sure the sound of bus stopping & starting will be loud enough to wake you up in the morning. So, I would not want those units in stack 4 or 5.
Yeah, owner may just want to wait nearer TOP and thinking the price will continue to shoot.
You looking for which facing? I heard the ones left are those nearer to the road. I know there is a bus stop in front and I am sure the sound of bus stopping & starting will be loud enough to wake you up in the morning. So, I would not want those units in stack 4 or 5.
Yeah, owner may just want to wait nearer TOP and thinking the price will continue to shoot.
stacks just next to west coast rd would be noisy for sure. as there're no blocks parallel to the road blocking noise, i guess noise would come in easily. also see spacing btw CW and Varsity Park is sooo small. also dun like ground floor becoz dun want kid to run out unnoticed. so not many choices. wonder how many 1st hand buyers are for own stay. now we're mentally prepared to give up CW knowing price would rise approaching TOP. CW as a 99 LH and not knowing how is furnishing, noise, windy, nearby westcove/blue horizon etc are not bad choices for own stay
stacks just next to west coast rd would be noisy for sure. as there're no blocks parallel to the road blocking noise, i guess noise would come in easily. also see spacing btw CW and Varsity Park is sooo small. also dun like ground floor becoz dun want kid to run out unnoticed. so not many choices. wonder how many 1st hand buyers are for own stay. now we're mentally prepared to give up CW knowing price would rise approaching TOP. CW as a 99 LH and not knowing how is furnishing, noise, windy, nearby westcove/blue horizon etc are not bad choices for own stay
Well, prices in blue horizon is also above $700 psf.
There is a plot of land besides blue horizon which I remembered was already sold. Anyone know which developer got the land and any news about the launch?
Well, prices in blue horizon is also above $700 psf.
There is a plot of land besides blue horizon which I remembered was already sold. Anyone know which developer got the land and any news about the launch? westcove is way below 700psf. not so packed as blue horizon.
the plot next to blue horizon, heard agent say bought by Li Ka Shing's comapny
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporebusinessnews/view/425294/1/.html
anyone knows any news? if launch in this market, price must be pretty high.
visited blue horizon a few times viewing unit, visiting friends, and also got comments from cleaning lady, veeeery noisy due to west coast highway, dusty, seaview halfly jurong island, mostly westfacing. for seaview lovers, must tolerate these. so i'm not looking forward to the next door launch. i'll probably choose east facing to avoid the noise
westcove is way below 700psf. not so packed as blue horizon.
the plot next to blue horizon, heard agent say bought by Li Ka Shing's comapny
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporebusinessnews/view/425294/1/.html
anyone knows any news? if launch in this market, price must be pretty high.
visited blue horizon a few times viewing unit, visiting friends, and also got comments from cleaning lady, veeeery noisy due to west coast highway, dusty, seaview halfly jurong island, mostly westfacing. for seaview lovers, must tolerate these. so i'm not looking forward to the next door launch. i'll probably choose east facing to avoid the noise
Hmm, the article didnot say Li Ka Shing bought that land.... It say his company looking for land in West Coast...
anyway, just curious how much would be the launch price.
If The Gale in LOYANG can be snapped up at more $730 psf, I think West Coast's psf would be higher...
Hmm, the article didnot say Li Ka Shing bought that land.... It say his company looking for land in West Coast...
anyway, just curious how much would be the launch price.
If The Gale in LOYANG can be snapped up at more $730 psf, I think West Coast's psf would be higher...
Was involved in this tender exercise.
Li Ka Shing > Cheung Kong Holdings > property investment vehicle > Billion Rise > highest bid 110mil > 305 psf land cost > AWARDED
Outbid second bidder Ng Teng Fong > far east Orghh..> property investment vehicle > Tian Hock Property > 301psf.
3rd bidder MCL > 286 psf.
From 230108 to 190308, total 12 bidders, lowest 138psf by teambuild. simlian236, hoihup235, fcl210, allgreen186 & cdl180.
should break even 650psf after dc. maybe launch at 850, maybe only. height restriction adjust to 36 after appeal. but billion willing to pay property tax rather than launch it yet. The newspaper article? come on, cheung kong will say invest d23 if he bite the recent chestnut.
Was involved in this tender exercise.
Li Ka Shing > Cheung Kong Holdings > property investment vehicle > Billion Rise > highest bid 110mil > 305 psf land cost > AWARDED
Outbid second bidder Ng Teng Fong > far east Orghh..> property investment vehicle > Tian Hock Property > 301psf.
3rd bidder MCL > 286 psf.
From 230108 to 190308, total 12 bidders, lowest 138psf by teambuild. simlian236, hoihup235, fcl210, allgreen186 & cdl180.
should break even 650psf after dc. maybe launch at 850, maybe only. height restriction adjust to 36 after appeal. but billion willing to pay property tax rather than launch it yet. The newspaper article? come on, cheung kong will say invest d23 if he bite the recent chestnut.
It has been more than a year and yet they willing to wait ...no wonder Billion is not confident to get $850 psf as surrounding 99LH are still at around $700++ psf.
proud owner
21-07-09, 23:08
It has been more than a year and yet they willing to wait ...no wonder Billion is not confident to get $850 psf as surrounding 99LH are still at around $700++ psf.
Balmeg court was enbloc in 2005 ... MCL held it till 2008 before they launched ..
Hmm, the article didnot say Li Ka Shing bought that land.... It say his company looking for land in West Coast...
anyway, just curious how much would be the launch price.
If The Gale in LOYANG can be snapped up at more $730 psf, I think West Coast's psf would be higher...
agent told me Li Ka Shing bought. I searched "coastal heights" (name of the plot) and only found that link related.
It has been more than a year and yet they willing to wait ...no wonder Billion is not confident to get $850 psf as surrounding 99LH are still at around $700++ psf.
is not about confident, billion just don't bother with it mammoth holding power. I will do the same if my com got to finance the parcel. the property tax & running of lease is peanut to billion. knowing singaporean, even if I let the lease run for another 5 years for weeds to flourish + 3 yrs construction, with a leasehold of remaining 90years, I can still get singaporean to buy at a bigger profit margin comparing to launching it now.
Let see, say 330 units. I will launch 30units on a friday but canvassing a month back to close associate. upon the 1st hour, 30 units will be sold and Sat paper will prepare with Phase 1 ALL SOLD! while taking in Phase 2 orders at backend before informing URA. Some tagline will be "Only for the privilege few" or "Seaview second to none", etc. Artist impression must be fantasic and get good cameraman to go up blue horizon and get a picture without heavy tanker. Zoom in on the park minus the road. never show multistorey carpark on plan. adjust the map and place nearest west coast mrt station nearer as well as nan hua or nus high, with a small print of "not to scale" at the bottom, some dont even bother.
Want better margin could further maximise land use for units as close to not tipping over to apartment status with a poor common to unit ratio. Full maximise of GFA and up to 36storey allow is a must. Follow by carpark, 231 lots/70%. the minimum requirement for 330 units. Multistorey carpark like blue horizon is a must cause basement carpark is a heavy ticket item and since bh is doing it. intercom? what intercom. Anything that not mandatory to be classify as a condo will not be there except maybe wardrobe or heater. but will hire some japanese or italian name designer to come up a 1 fit all design and ask sungei kadut contractors to bid and squeeze them. and may be a simple stove but no hod. common area minimise structure construction, have more cheap items like bbq pit and "fantastic waterscaping" none other than some beautify drainage. try getting it green certify by build more cheap trees and get tax rebate due to reduction of carbon emmission.
carpark width size will be minimum to regulation, suv? stick to it or change to minicooper loh.. don't buy too much gym equipment yet, wait for maintainence fee to come in and use sinking fund from resident to buy. maybe can have a central rubbish chute like botannia and save on slat and construction, eco friendly as well.
sigh.. I think I could go on and on..
utimately, singaporean will still buy and only to come to this forum and only to defend helplessly against all the condemmed... hhahhahahah
how come i cannot find such price. asking prices are higher and so-called nett. and didn't know these units for sale from many agents i've called. where to find more units for sale?
I got 2 sms from 2 agents saying that #02-15 last offer was at $805K and seller looking at $810K.
proud owner
22-07-09, 21:00
I got 2 sms from 2 agents saying that #02-15 last offer was at $805K and seller looking at $810K.
thats cheap ? if #02-15 is 2000 sqft
pls state the size pal ...
I got 2 sms from 2 agents saying that #02-15 last offer was at $805K and seller looking at $810K.
for 2 + 1 study is it?
I think so. this one is 1087sqft. And it is the one by west coast road....:tsk-tsk:
for 2 + 1 study is it?
I think so. this one is 1087sqft. And it is the one by west coast road....:tsk-tsk:
Should be... the agent said that 2 banks can now much the valuation at $750 psf for 1087 sq ft unit
It was a big jump from just a few weeks ago... I heard from my friend that most bank could only have bank valuation of $680 psf and he has to top up if he get the unit. In the end, he didnt...
I think so. this one is 1087sqft. And it is the one by west coast road....:tsk-tsk:
it is also next to basement carpark entrance :tsk-tsk:
Should be... the agent said that 2 banks can now much the valuation at $750 psf for 1087 sq ft unit
It was a big jump from just a few weeks ago... I heard from my friend that most bank could only have bank valuation of $680 psf and he has to top up if he get the unit. In the end, he didnt...
Hi Lucas, a casual note. There is too many factors in deciding who to lend and how much to lend and how much could be reprocess for bad debt.
If bank give Mr A an in-principle-of-approval for the indicated unit at $750psf on OTP, it is not necc to Mr B the same amount. It could be 720psf and ask Mr B to top up. And either way, if Mr C buying the same unit at $770psf, the bank may be willing to disburse up to 80% of 770psf to Mr C and not Mr A.
Especially if Mr C has 2 Rivergate + 2 Sail all covering a positive equity of 20% and likewise if Mr B already have a superb leverage of Gear up "to no where".
The maverick at branch or mobile banker could give you the sky to get the numbers, but it the senior back at hq with information technology power + hefty subscription tracking one ligation, bank account & creditworthiness + xxx reasons signing the approval.
Hi Lucas, a casual note. There is too many factors in deciding who to lend and how much to lend and how much could be reprocess for bad debt.
If bank give Mr A an in-principle-of-approval for the indicated unit at $750psf on OTP, it is not necc to Mr B the same amount. It could be 720psf and ask Mr B to top up. And either way, if Mr C buying the same unit at $770psf, the bank may be willing to disburse up to 80% of 770psf to Mr C and not Mr A.
Especially if Mr C has 2 Rivergate + 2 Sail all covering a positive equity of 20% and likewise if Mr B already have a superb leverage of Gear up "to no where".
The maverick at branch or mobile banker could give you the sky to get the numbers, but it the senior back at hq with information technology power + hefty subscription tracking one ligation, bank account & creditworthiness + xxx reasons signing the approval.
I thought that the amount the bank going to loan(whether 80% or 90%) to Mr A or Mr B will depends on how much they earn?
As for the Valuation of an unit, it will depends mainly on surrounding transacted price of similiar unit?
I thought that the amount the bank going to loan(whether 80% or 90%) to Mr A or Mr B will depends on how much they earn?
As for the Valuation of an unit, it will depends mainly on surrounding transacted price of similiar unit?
You are right on the factors. But again it only some of the deciding factors. There is a great differences between secure loan and unsecure loan.
Those "ask James get ezy cash" typically refer to unsecure loan carrying higher interest. Secure loan are also know as secure mortgage loan or pledging loan. The approach could be gear-up as well.
Examples of secure loan: (Take note, anything to do with HDB do NOT apply here)
Mr A - 40 somethings, currently holding a private property value at 600k with 400k outstanding loan. The positive equity at 200k, no other liabilities except car loan. Combine hubby+wife(+1kid) household income per month 15k of disposable. Want to do a gear-up of 100k to assist downpayment in another property (Do a gear-up rather than recognizing the capital appreciation because betting it value will shoot pass 600k and rental yield could cover gear-up incurred interest. Note that existing 400k loan is still cover by monthly CPF-OA contribution ). New condo gonna owner-occupied. Old condo rental.
Mr B - 60. Retired lecturer. No monthly fix income other than some minor investment returns, some savings. Own 50,000 shares of UOB IPO price of $1. And a fully paid-up thomson landed teacher estate. Pledging securities of last 20 days average closing price-10% and land title deed (Note, land title not strata title). New condo gonna owner occupied. Old landed awaiting targeted price for capital appreciation.
All these data will input to the risk matrix + ligation + valuation of the property + company return and, I will tell you Mr B have higher in-principal loan amount than Mr A even though A earn more. See what I'm trying to say. If you are the bank, which want carry higher risk of defaulting AND if defaulted, which one ensure the bank have a better chance of reprocessing even with a marginal profit after catering auctionner and which one may have to write off the bad debt?
for valuation we leave it to panel which consist a bunch of sisv certifed value house or in-house panel. land we get certified surveyor. to many deciding factors on top of surrounding price and tons for land up till road widening possibilities. land surveying generally cater to developer/builder financing. finish landed estate park with condo valuers as well less GCB and some better off landed.
You are right on the factors. But again it only some of the deciding factors. There is a great differences between secure loan and unsecure loan.
Those "ask James get ezy cash" typically refer to unsecure loan carrying higher interest. Secure loan are also know as secure mortgage loan or pledging loan. The approach could be gear-up as well.
Examples of secure loan: (Take note, anything to do with HDB do NOT apply here)
Mr A - 40 somethings, currently holding a private property value at 600k with 400k outstanding loan. The positive equity at 200k, no other liabilities except car loan. Combine hubby+wife(+1kid) household income per month 15k of disposable. Want to do a gear-up of 100k to assist downpayment in another property (Do a gear-up rather than recognizing the capital appreciation because betting it value will shoot pass 600k and rental yield could cover gear-up incurred interest. Note that existing 400k loan is still cover by monthly CPF-OA contribution ). New condo gonna owner-occupied. Old condo rental.
Mr B - 60. Retired lecturer. No monthly fix income other than some minor investment returns, some savings. Own 50,000 shares of UOB IPO price of $1. And a fully paid-up thomson landed teacher estate. Pledging securities of last 20 days average closing price-10% and land title deed (Note, land title not strata title). New condo gonna owner occupied. Old landed awaiting targeted price for capital appreciation.
All these data will input to the risk matrix + ligation + valuation of the property + company return and, I will tell you Mr B have higher in-principal loan amount than Mr A even though A earn more. See what I'm trying to say. If you are the bank, which want carry higher risk of defaulting AND if defaulted, which one ensure the bank have a better chance of reprocessing even with a marginal profit after catering auctionner and which one may have to write off the bad debt?
for valuation we leave it to panel which consist a bunch of sisv certifed value house or in-house panel. land we get certified surveyor. to many deciding factors on top of surrounding price and tons for land up till road widening possibilities. land surveying generally cater to developer/builder financing. finish landed estate park with condo valuers as well less GCB and some better off landed.
Thanks for the insight on how the bank evaluate a borrower.
BTW, why different bank or rather sisv certified value house panel gives different valuation to the same property. The range can be quite wide.
I have received something like $680 psf, $690 psf and $700 psf for same property unit before. So, may veiw is that if the bank want your money, somehow some bank can still give you higher valuation... Is this correct?
Thanks for the insight on how the bank evaluate a borrower.
BTW, why different bank or rather sisv certified value house panel gives different valuation to the same property. The range can be quite wide.
I have received something like $680 psf, $690 psf and $700 psf for same property unit before. So, may veiw is that if the bank want your money, somehow some bank can still give you higher valuation... Is this correct?
Nope.
1. Property valuation and borrowing quantum is TWO different things.
2. If the bank want to loan you, they need not increase the valuation, they can just lend you. The valuation is after all, just another set of guide to the bank only.
3. If you use CPF, CPF board will have their own valuation panel for 2nd caveat filing indication after disbursement of your OWN money, nothing to do with the bank valuation. Usually in line with the loan quantum UNLESS great differences occur which they will approach bank house loan team.
4. Anyone that are not happy with the loan quantum can just walk away or simply accept the lower borrowing and pay extra cash over purchase price.
4. Different value house have different set of measurement but all follow the same fundamental. How to put it, they follow FA of SISV but apply respective house TA.
5. There are different kind of valuer WITH different AGENDA. I do not wish to indule much on some un-ethical behaviour but just to highlight that bank are NOT stupid. Anyway, conservative measure are usually well-like by local bank, but not the foreign bank and vice-versa. And there are different kind of valution, like bulk arrangement with developer for IAS quantum, 2nd opinion valuation, etc. Nowsaday, there are even online valuation reports, lol.. Sometime I wonder, if the valuer could estimate the current price of a property accurately, they might as well scan through the STI index to see any undervalued pick for themselve. But again, we need some figures from this sector to make up the sum.
In any case, there are some projects that we have so much valuations report from different house in the database that at times, our inhouse guys could just estimate and need not even request for a valuation report. Metropolitan is one of them. hahahhaa....
Notice that even those top floor 2 or 2+1 beds is having high ceiling, roof terrace and bigger window? Looks attractive to me. Can anybody comment on this and any potential prons with top floor? thanks a lot.
Notice that even those top floor 2 or 2+1 beds is having high ceiling, roof terrace and bigger window? Looks attractive to me. Can anybody comment on this and any potential prons with top floor? thanks a lot.
I've considered top floor also. Viewed one top floor at westcove: high ceiling in living room, bedrooms not high ceiling. compared to my unit 1 level below top floor, feel hotter at top floor in late afternoon (i chose the time to check) both in high ceiling living room and even hotter in bedrooms. But it is obvious that top floor high ceiling is cooler than not high ceiling. long term, need to consider leaking? who's gonna pay for fixing leaks?
Thanks housewife. Your comment looks quite reasonable.
In fact I have got a unit at 4th floor 2bed in CW, and now have the intention to switch to the top floor. Not sure whether CW have high ceiling and bigger window size for both living and bedrooms?
I've considered top floor also. Viewed one top floor at westcove: high ceiling in living room, bedrooms not high ceiling. compared to my unit 1 level below top floor, feel hotter at top floor in late afternoon (i chose the time to check) both in high ceiling living room and even hotter in bedrooms. But it is obvious that top floor high ceiling is cooler than not high ceiling. long term, need to consider leaking? who's gonna pay for fixing leaks?
Thanks housewife. Your comment looks quite reasonable.
In fact I have got a unit at 4th floor 2bed in CW, and now have the intention to switch to the top floor. Not sure whether CW have high ceiling and bigger window size for both living and bedrooms?
photo taken end of June. if u want, i can help u take updated photo at this corner. i think it's safer to check it out in person, but construction site allows no entry. btw, when u r ready to sell ur 2bedder, can let me know? :)
Hi was interested in a 4 bedder at 3rd or 4th floor but nobody seems to be selling already. Anybody selling one here?
Also what is a reasonable PSF for such a CW unit?
Thanks much!
Hi..
has anybody heard when is the TOP?
Thanks!
Hi..
has anybody heard when is the TOP?
Thanks!
last month went to construction site, engineer said end of this year or early next yr can collect key.
photo taken end of June. if u want, i can help u take updated photo at this corner. i think it's safer to check it out in person, but construction site allows no entry. btw, when u r ready to sell ur 2bedder, can let me know? :) i took a look today, still look the same as the photo. i don't think window at level 5 at stack 49 is any different from lower levels. not sure about other stacks
last month went to construction site, engineer said end of this year or early next yr can collect key.
When I passed by, I noticed that the external wall and glass panels of some units in the the leftmost block (I think block 90), if you view from West Coast Road. The remaining ones seems to be club house and the pool which are still under construction.
Athough I think can complete by year-end but the TOP olr key collection would usually another 2 -3 months. So, would think it could be end of 1stQ or 2Q
Thanks for your photo. It will be best if I can find some owners to exchange.
I noticed that the aircon of 2nd floor have already been installed.
photo taken end of June. if u want, i can help u take updated photo at this corner. i think it's safer to check it out in person, but construction site allows no entry. btw, when u r ready to sell ur 2bedder, can let me know? :)
Housewife: thanks for the info!
Tropical Fish
04-08-09, 17:25
Just found an interesting article about Feng Shui on Clementiwoods condo :cool:
https://www.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=43&mid=25563&s=1
Hi owners or agents of CW, anyone have any 3 bed rooms (facing the park) to sell? Pls PM me, tks.
tks, I have bought one unit (2 bed rooms) there this morning at $743 psf (1055)
Just found an interesting article about Feng Shui on Clementiwoods condo :cool:
https://www.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=43&mid=25563&s=1
meaning those facing the park and the main pool not so good based on what the feng shui master said? can we trust him?
Thanks for your photo. It will be best if I can find some owners to exchange.
I noticed that the aircon of 2nd floor have already been installed.
do u know when can those owners of CW collectsd their keys?
meaning those facing the park and the main pool not so good based on what the feng shui master said? can we trust him?
Saw his comments on Evergreen Park in Hougang like not very chun le. :doh:
Cos my relative stay in one of those inauspicious blocks but he kena 4D every so often. :)
Think sometimes fengshui also will need to consider your personal type and not just the surroundings. :2cents:
it is also next to basement carpark entrance :tsk-tsk:
where is the basement carpark entrance? which block and at which stalk? pls advice, tks.
blk78, stack04, i think
where is the basement carpark entrance? which block and at which stalk? pls advice, tks.
tks, I have bought one unit (2 bed rooms) there this morning at $743 psf (1055)
Congrat, did you get one facing the park?
BTW, I realised that at least three quarters of the block facing the park is blocked by the trees! How to stay in an unit when you look out, you can only see leaves and branches:doh:
agreed. several stacks facing the park may have the light concern. On the other hand, maybe you feel like in a jungle, not in an apartment, then more close to the nature.....
Congrat, did you get one facing the park?
BTW, I realised that at least three quarters of the block facing the park is blocked by the trees! How to stay in an unit when you look out, you can only see leaves and branches:doh:
me have no idea as well, but most people say the latest to be Q1 next year TOP.
Btw, welcome to become an owner of CW! Cong!
do u know when can those owners of CW collectsd their keys?
tks, I have bought one unit (2 bed rooms) there this morning at $743 psf (1055)
hey congrats. do u mind to share experience? i even tried higher psf (should be different unit) but rejected. closed deals have lower psf. dunno what is going on.
hey congrats. do u mind to share experience? i even tried higher psf (should be different unit) but rejected. closed deals have lower psf. dunno what is going on.
I went to view other project first then the agent there from ERA told me there is one unit at clementiwood. The owner is asking for 800k, think mine is not 1055, shld be 1076 (2+1) at No. 80, 4th floor, facing the aqua pond. After nego, my agent managed to get the unit for me at $790.
My only concern is the distance between blocks are too near :( think only 70m apart. Think my agent got me one serious and reasonable seller, did not ask for too high psf. In the market I know many sellers are asking ard $770 psf, which I think its a bit too high. Mine is still ok, ard $734 psf.
Congrat, did you get one facing the park?
BTW, I realised that at least three quarters of the block facing the park is blocked by the trees! How to stay in an unit when you look out, you can only see leaves and branches:doh:
Mine is 2+1 (1076) so not facing the park, its facing the aqua pond. NO. 80, 4th storey
Mine is 2+1 (1076) so not facing the park, its facing the aqua pond. NO. 80, 4th storey
This is the better 2+1 layout:) because the study room is big enough as a small bedroom, unliike another layout which has a bomb shelter which is really useless.
BTW, saw an advert in nationproperty website where this particular agent asking $1050 psf for the 560 sq ft unit (Studio) today! unbelievable:2cents:
I went to view other project first then the agent there from ERA told me there is one unit at clementiwood. The owner is asking for 800k, think mine is not 1055, shld be 1076 (2+1) at No. 80, 4th floor, facing the aqua pond. After nego, my agent managed to get the unit for me at $790.
My only concern is the distance between blocks are too near :( think only 70m apart. Think my agent got me one serious and reasonable seller, did not ask for too high psf. In the market I know many sellers are asking ard $770 psf, which I think its a bit too high. Mine is still ok, ard $734 psf.
u r lucky. i've been searching since early June for 2+study. units like stack 15 have been selling for long, since they're just next to road and i know how annoying the traffic would be at night. so hoping for new units to come up. agents i've contacted b4 rarely call back for new units. when i tried for the last time last week, still the same old units. ur agent good
For the distance between blocks, No.80 is better than No. 78. No. 78 is even closer to Varsity Park. I even offered a price higher than urs to a 2nd floor unit at No. 78 and rejected. i guess this hunting process really needs some luck, or fate? So congrats to u! For us, had to settle somewhere else, so will sadly see clementiwoods getting more pretty everyday, probably will get to know better units sold at lower price :(
u r lucky. i've been searching since early June for 2+study. units like stack 15 have been selling for long, since they're just next to road and i know how annoying the traffic would be at night. so hoping for new units to come up. agents i've contacted b4 rarely call back for new units. when i tried for the last time last week, still the same old units. ur agent good
For the distance between blocks, No.80 is better than No. 78. No. 78 is even closer to Varsity Park. I even offered a price higher than urs to a 2nd floor unit at No. 78 and rejected. i guess this hunting process really needs some luck, or fate? So congrats to u! For us, had to settle somewhere else, so will sadly see clementiwoods getting more pretty everyday, probably will get to know better units sold at lower price :(
I have pm you, cos my agent has one more unit selling at psf $750, think quite reasonable.
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where is the basement carpark entrance? which block and at which stalk? pls advice, tks.
sorry, overlooked this. from site plan, i think cars turn right after entrance passing by stack 16 and 15.
Anyone knows where is the power station and rust bin of CW? Nearby which stack?
Thanks in advance.
Anyone knows where is the power station and rust bin of CW? Nearby which stack?
Thanks in advance.
Tropical Fish
11-08-09, 17:26
Anyone knows where is the power station and rust bin of CW? Nearby which stack?
Thanks in advance.
According to the site plan, my best guess will be the area (side entrance) next to Blcok No.78 Unit 04.
u r lucky. i've been searching since early June for 2+study. units like stack 15 have been selling for long, since they're just next to road and i know how annoying the traffic would be at night. so hoping for new units to come up. agents i've contacted b4 rarely call back for new units. when i tried for the last time last week, still the same old units. ur agent good
For the distance between blocks, No.80 is better than No. 78. No. 78 is even closer to Varsity Park. I even offered a price higher than urs to a 2nd floor unit at No. 78 and rejected. i guess this hunting process really needs some luck, or fate? So congrats to u! For us, had to settle somewhere else, so will sadly see clementiwoods getting more pretty everyday, probably will get to know better units sold at lower price :(
I wonder if the distance between block 80 and block 78 is almost same as block 78 and the block in varsity park? From far, it seems the same.
Anyway, my feeling is the the distance between blocks in CW are very close to each other and there is no diff where you are. Maybe can avoid only those units nearer to West Coast Road.
I wonder if the distance between block 80 and block 78 is almost same as block 78 and the block in varsity park? From far, it seems the same.
Anyway, my feeling is the the distance between blocks in CW are very close to each other and there is no diff where you are. Maybe can avoid only those units nearer to West Coast Road. I asked all my family members to judge the distance btw No. 78 and Varsity Park, they say either equal or less than btw 80 and 78. based on both 80 and 78 covered in green now. my experience is that when completely done, distance will be bigger than it seems now, so u may find it nicer than expected at TOP. as Varsity Park is completely exposed now, this increase in distance will be less significant. the trees btw CW and VP also make it look closer. Anyway distance quite similar. for potential buyer like me, this is the least important factor now
I asked all my family members to judge the distance btw No. 78 and Varsity Park, they say either equal or less than btw 80 and 78. based on both 80 and 78 covered in green now. my experience is that when completely done, distance will be bigger than it seems now, so u may find it nicer than expected at TOP. as Varsity Park is completely exposed now, this increase in distance will be less significant. the trees btw CW and VP also make it look closer. Anyway distance quite similar. for potential buyer like me, this is the least important factor now
Come to think about it, some units in Varsity park faces the backside of Stellar overlooking their back yards and toilets. This is worst...
At least CW units are facing the front of units in Varsity Park which is better feeling. Afterall, some units in varsity park have nice ID and can really feel good looking at them:-)
Any if you want to stay in VP, STELLAR or CW, be prepared to be looked at and prepare to look at others...
The distance between blk 80 and 78 is only 70m.
I wonder where did you get this "70m" number?
If it is really 70m, good enough leh...
The distance between blk 80 and 78 is only 70m.
I wonder where did you get this "70m" number?
If it is really 70m, good enough leh...
from my agent, i asked her b4 i decide to buy one unit at Blk 80.
Hi all, 1 am looking into buying one unit in clementiwoods 4 bedrooms. I prefer the ground floor unit as we have kids. my only conern is that the unit might be very dark... facing the park and ground floor...
Is it really dark inside? any feedback would be appreciated!
Tropical Fish
13-08-09, 09:45
Hi all, 1 am looking into buying one unit in clementiwoods 4 bedrooms. I prefer the ground floor unit as we have kids. my only conern is that the unit might be very dark... facing the park and ground floor...
Is it really dark inside? any feedback would be appreciated!
I would say the units on the ground floor and facing the park will be much darker than those not facing the park. Also, the ground units facing the park in Block 88 will be darker than those in the Block 90, especially the ground unit in Black 88 unit 36.
I would say the units on the ground floor and facing the park will be much darker than those not facing the park. Also, the ground units facing the park in Block 88 will be darker than those in the Block 90, especially the ground unit in Black 88 unit 36.
agree. from clementiwoods park, can hardly see the roof of stack 36. i guess it's like living in a jungle, pretty unique.
I would say the units on the ground floor and facing the park will be much darker than those not facing the park. Also, the ground units facing the park in Block 88 will be darker than those in the Block 90, especially the ground unit in Black 88 unit 36.
Besides darker, the worst is the mosquitoe.
Actually, it is really strange for developer to sell condo units with tree blocking the windows. I hope Fraser will be able to convince Npark, to at least, tp trim the trees regularly in CW park.:cool:
proud owner
14-08-09, 00:45
Besides darker, the worst is the mosquitoe.
Actually, it is really strange for developer to sell condo units with tree blocking the windows. I hope Fraser will be able to convince Npark, to at least, tp trim the trees regularly in CW park.:cool:
hahah
NPARK ? i give up on them
they engaged contractors to supposedly sweeps the streets of the fallen leaves on alternate days ..
i had to call NPARK over a period of 3 mths ..cos i NEVER EVER see the contractors ..at the very best 1 time in a mth ..
i did propose to NPARK to pay me instead and i sweep the street...but they couldnt ..i had to 'tender' for the job ahahahha
useless govt dept wasting money ... i would like to set up a cleaning company and make easy money from NPARK
just tender for jobs at outside town sure make money
hahah
NPARK ? i give up on them
they engaged contractors to supposedly sweeps the streets of the fallen leaves on alternate days ..
i had to call NPARK over a period of 3 mths ..cos i NEVER EVER see the contractors ..at the very best 1 time in a mth ..
i did propose to NPARK to pay me instead and i sweep the street...but they couldnt ..i had to 'tender' for the job ahahahha
useless govt dept wasting money ... i would like to set up a cleaning company and make easy money from NPARK
just tender for jobs at outside town sure make money
Hmmm... I dont deal with Npark directly... which area you staying :confused:
Anyway very sorry to hear such bad encounters
http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.com/fch_constructionprogress/images/FCH_construction_clementiwoods_06.jpgProgress On Site For ClementiWoods Condominium As At August 2009S/NItemsProgress Status1Foundation WorkCompleted2Reinforced Concrete FrameworkCompleted3Brick WallsCompleted4CeilingsIn Progress5Door and Window FramesIn Progress6Car Parks, Roads and DrainsIn Progress7TOP issuedNil
Tropical Fish
20-08-09, 20:44
Saw some units have already installed the windows and noticed that the color of the frames seem to be "dark brown". :(
Two year ago, when had tour in the showroom, remembered that the window frames were silver color. Also, the window frames showed in the brochure are very light color too, almost like white/silver.
Anyone has any ideas what’s going on? :confused:
Saw some units have already installed the windows and noticed that the color of the frames seem to be "dark brown". :(
Two year ago, when had tour in the showroom, remembered that the window frames were silver color. Also, the window frames showed in the brochure are very light color too, almost like white/silver.
Anyone has any ideas what’s going on? :confused:
"Artist Impression" + "Showroom for illustration purpose and may defer from actual unit" :p
"Artist Impression" + "Showroom for illustration purpose and may defer from actual unit" :p
walked by today, the current dark brown of the window frames is just temporary protective film, below is indeed silver color :)
Tropical Fish
22-08-09, 19:57
walked by today, the current dark brown of the window frames is just temporary protective film, below is indeed silver color :)
Thanks for the info. Went to take a close look today as well. Yes...it's silver color underneath the black protective film. Very happy about it loh...:D That's one of the reasons why I bought a unit in CW. :)
I also love its white color kitchen! :D
anyone know the distance between blk 80 and blk 78? They look so close together.
anyone know the distance between blk 80 and blk 78? They look so close together.
Definately not 70 m.
The distance between that 2 blocks facing the main would likely to be 70 m.
Definately not 70 m.
The distance between that 2 blocks facing the main would likely to be 70 m.
Not sure if your agent meant the distance between that 2 blocks facing the main swimming pool.
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Tropical Fish
06-09-09, 21:50
Besides darker, the worst is the mosquitoe.
Actually, it is really strange for developer to sell condo units with tree blocking the windows. I hope Fraser will be able to convince Npark, to at least, tp trim the trees regularly in CW park.:cool:
Walked by today and noticed that the "jungle" along the site has been cleaned out. It has a very wide open space now. :cool:
I guess the owners of the units facing the park must be very happy to see the open space. No more tree blocking the windows!:cheers1:
Walked by today and noticed that the "jungle" along the site has been cleaned out. It has a very wide open space now. :cool:
I guess the owners of the units facing the park must be very happy to see the open space. No more tree blocking the windows!:cheers1:
well well that's good news for those park facing units. It will be very nice to look out of window n listen to birds chipping:-)
Tropical Fish
07-09-09, 20:16
me have no idea as well, but most people say the latest to be Q1 next year TOP.
Btw, welcome to become an owner of CW! Cong!
Found an announcement made by “ China Construction (South Pacific) Development Co Pte Ltd”:
2007-07-19 西海岸公寓项目，业主为星狮集团。项目包括七栋五层公寓楼（240单位）一层地下停车场、游泳池及公用设施。建筑面积：28,087平方米。合同额5，698.25万新元。工期30个月，已于7月19日开工。
So, the TOP should be sometimes in January next year, or even earlier...:cheers1:
OMG, just went to see today, the distance between Blk 88 & 86, Blk 90 & 82, Blk 80 & 78 is really really super near! sigh, dun tell me those pple staying at those blk facing each other have to draw thier curtain all day long, if not will have to view their neighbours or let their neighbours view what you are doing all day long :( btw the way am staying in Blk 80 facing Blk 78.
OMG, just went to see today, the distance between Blk 88 & 86, Blk 90 & 82, Blk 80 & 78 is really really super near! sigh, dun tell me those pple staying at those blk facing each other have to draw thier curtain all day long, if not will have to view their neighbours or let their neighbours view what you are doing all day long :( btw the way am staying in Blk 80 facing Blk 78.
didn't u view the construction site b4 u bought? it was like this all the time ah~ Those who bought from developer really had no choice but to guess or believe what agent says, or just count on good luck
When I am choosing the unit, i went to the construction site and found the same problem as you. So finally i chose a corner unit (inside one) hoping to have better views compared with those units sandwiched. And I think if your is at 3rd level and above, it should be no problem while TOP, after all, this is a 5 storey building...
OMG, just went to see today, the distance between Blk 88 & 86, Blk 90 & 82, Blk 80 & 78 is really really super near! sigh, dun tell me those pple staying at those blk facing each other have to draw thier curtain all day long, if not will have to view their neighbours or let their neighbours view what you are doing all day long :( btw the way am staying in Blk 80 facing Blk 78.
I have checked with the construction worker at the site, being told that they will get everything done by this Dec. So TOP time may be 2 months later?
Found an announcement made by “ China Construction (South Pacific) Development Co Pte Ltd”:
2007-07-19 西海岸公寓项目，业主为星狮集团。项目包括七栋五层公寓楼（240单位）一层地下停车场、游泳池及公用设施。建筑面积：28,087平方米。合同额5，698.25万新元。工期30个月，已于7月19日开工。
So, the TOP should be sometimes in January next year, or even earlier...:cheers1:
Any one can guess what is the potential upside for this project?
OMG, just went to see today, the distance between Blk 88 & 86, Blk 90 & 82, Blk 80 & 78 is really really super near! sigh, dun tell me those pple staying at those blk facing each other have to draw thier curtain all day long, if not will have to view their neighbours or let their neighbours view what you are doing all day long :( btw the way am staying in Blk 80 facing Blk 78.
That is why I never buy property off the plan.
No wonder nowadays corner units is always priced higher.
That is why I never buy property off the plan.
If you wait until you can touch, see and feel the unit, prices will have shoot up. Buy based on plan is cheaper.
If you wait until you can touch, see and feel the unit, prices will have shoot up. Buy based on plan is cheaper.
Not really, these days those first off the plan buyers without holding power actually lose money or just break even with developer price. If 99 LH like Clementiwoods wait a few years and prices may even come down. Go see propertyguru listings for Clementiwoods, the term firesale is used alot there.
No wonder nowadays corner units is always priced higher.
Depends on which corners lah ... actually even for some corner units can also be v close to one another (think the kitchen side) ..
That is why I never buy property off the plan.
Actually if study the overall layout of THE GALE .. kinda similar, back-to-back is pretty closeby ... so u can literally smell it if ur neighbour were to cook curry :D
Not really, these days those first off the plan buyers without holding power actually lose money or just break even with developer price. If 99 LH like Clementiwoods wait a few years and prices may even come down. Go see propertyguru listings for Clementiwoods, the term firesale is used alot there.
Hi, care to share your view about why price for this one should come down if wait a few years?
Hi, care to share your view about why price for this one should come down if wait a few years?
It is in the West, which is generally less desirable than the East, it is LH, it is lowrise, it is not near MRT, not to talk down about the development but maybe you should tell me whether you think the price will go up.
i think you can compare the rental of neighbourhood Varsity park with those properties in east area with similar sale price and then it's not too late to reach a conclusion. Although it is not next to MRT, it is stone away from NUS, Japanese school, shopping mall, wet market, and the one-north research hub is not far away as well. Good Location does NOT equal to 200m to MRT station.
Finally, to me, low-rise is the FIRST reason why I choose this project... As for LH, I accept it, cos it will be 100 psf higher if it is FH.
It is in the West, which is generally less desirable than the East, it is LH, it is lowrise, it is not near MRT, not to talk down about the development but maybe you should tell me whether you think the price will go up.
i think you can compare the rental of neighbourhood Varsity park with those properties in east area with similar sale price and then it's not too late to reach a conclusion. Although it is not next to MRT, it is stone away from NUS, Japanese school, shopping mall, wet market, and the one-north research hub is not far away as well. Good Location does NOT equal to 200m to MRT station.
Finally, to me, low-rise is the FIRST reason why I choose this project... As for LH, I accept it, cos it will be 100 psf higher if it is FH.
Well it is personal choice, yes some people do like low rise, if you like your property just live with it.
It is in the West, which is generally less desirable than the East, it is LH, it is lowrise, it is not near MRT, not to talk down about the development but maybe you should tell me whether you think the price will go up.
Nope, nvr thot it would go up ... but from the recent caveats, it does appear that in the near term, should still be quite steady ... well, at least for my fren who bout thru sub-sale in late 2007, he didn't lose $$ ...
(personally, wont fancy this one though)
It is in the West, which is generally less desirable than the East, it is LH, it is lowrise, it is not near MRT, not to talk down about the development but maybe you should tell me whether you think the price will go up.
Who told you lowrise is not desirable? Lowrise and 99LH got better chance of enbloc than FH, highrisk.:doh:
Who told you lowrise is not desirable? Lowrise and 99LH got better chance of enbloc than FH, highrisk.:doh:
My dear, does not mean lowrise means easy to enbloc, CW is probably built to the max already, even though it is lowrise, so how to enbloc in future unless plot ratio is revised, ie. allow you to build high rise.
Why is it high risk to enbloc freehold?
Yah first time hear about risky to enbloc FH ... why huh? Thot no need to top-up lease is betta mah ... which developers like to purposely choose some places to top-up one (unless location is damn gd lah) ...
Yah first time hear about risky to enbloc FH ... why huh? Thot no need to top-up lease is betta mah ... which developers like to purposely choose some places to top-up one (unless location is damn gd lah) ...
I didn't say risky to enbloc FH, read carefully. I only say the changes of enbloc for 99LH is higher than FH for obvious reason which I will not go into. So open your eyes big-big and read again.
I didn't say risky to enbloc FH, read carefully. I only say the changes of enbloc for 99LH is higher than FH for obvious reason which I will not go into. So open your eyes big-big and read again.
Well obviously my eyes not as BIG as urs tt's why asking mah ... anyway not as if ur msg v clear .. need to be so fierce anot? Dun wanna say then dun say lor .. chey ...
I have checked with the construction worker at the site, being told that they will get everything done by this Dec. So TOP time may be 2 months later?
Hmmm wonder what the construction worker can give you the whole picture:scared-5: They could be just responsible their own area of work in completing the exterior. The interior of each unit would probably need another 1 -2 month? And I heard after every thing completed, BCA need to test and give the cert.... Maybe this part, some professionals can give your input.... It should easily need another 2 months?
you sure the interior decoration not done by them?
Hmmm wonder what the construction worker can give you the whole picture:scared-5: They could be just responsible their own area of work in completing the exterior. The interior of each unit would probably need another 1 -2 month? And I heard after every thing completed, BCA need to test and give the cert.... Maybe this part, some professionals can give your input.... It should easily need another 2 months?
you sure the interior decoration not done by them?
Never been inside... but I guess items like closets, kitchen cabinets, flooring etc should be done by other contractors.
88 West Coast Road #02-42
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$704
1389
$978k
13 Jul 09
78 West Coast Road #05-09
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$715
1076
$770k
10 Jul 09
78 West Coast Road #02-08
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$881
560
$493k
The recent studio unit in CW is already pass $9xx psf...:scared-5:
Address
Tenure
PSF
Area Sqft
Price
Contract Date
78 West Coast Road #02-03
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$912
592
$540k
17 Aug 09
2-3 months ago i was directed to a chinese engineer in the office, who said should be ready end of this year or early next year, should be before CNY
The recent studio unit in CW is already pass $9xx psf...:scared-5:
Address
Tenure
PSF
Area Sqft
Price
Contract Date
78 West Coast Road #02-03
99 Yrs From 07/02/2006
$912
592
$540k
17 Aug 09
Comparing to One-North Residence studio of the same size selling at $1200psf, this one looks like a steal:scared-5:
proud owner
10-09-09, 11:25
Comparing to One-North Residence studio of the same size selling at $1200psf, this one looks like a steal:scared-5:
compared to other FH nearby
this one makes the buyer a no brainer
compared to other FH nearby
this one makes the buyer a no brainer
You are mean.
compared to other FH nearby
this one makes the buyer a no brainer
Why no brainer??? Most of other FH nearby (spectrum for e.g) are either near to road junction or no amenities nearby (Balmeg for e.g).
proud owner
10-09-09, 11:53
Why no brainer??? Most of other FH nearby (spectrum for e.g) are either near to road junction or no amenities nearby (Balmeg for e.g).
what amenities are you talking about for clementiwoods ?
arent they HDB amenities ?
so does that mean the HDB nearby should also be 1000 psf ???
all also LH ... many HDB older .. ok lor so HDB there 700 psf lor
what amenities are you talking about for clementiwoods ?
arent they HDB amenities ?
so does that mean the HDB nearby should also be 1000 psf ???
all also LH ... many HDB older .. ok lor so HDB there 700 psf lor
HDB is not near lar, you try walking there then tell me. It is a least one to two bus stop away. How can HDB be same price as private? If same price would you still buy HDB???????? Forget about amenities even for rental which FH there is closer to NUS than CW? If you are a NUS student or Prof would you rent one on clementi road side or PP side which is all FH??????? Not to mention one north, Japanese sch etc which one is nearer.:scared-1:
proud owner
11-09-09, 01:41
HDB is not near lar, you try walking there then tell me. It is a least one to two bus stop away. How can HDB be same price as private? If same price would you still buy HDB???????? Forget about amenities even for rental which FH there is closer to NUS than CW? If you are a NUS student or Prof would you rent one on clementi road side or PP side which is all FH??????? Not to mention one north, Japanese sch etc which one is nearer.:scared-1:
CW FH meh ?? ??
next to NUS theres Stellar , Spectrum, and a few others nearer to HSS Library side of NUS ....
CW is far away for NUS's rental ...
CW FH meh ?? ??
next to NUS theres Stellar , Spectrum, and a few others nearer to HSS Library side of NUS ....
CW is far away for NUS's rental ...
Sounds desperate to me.
CW is not too far from NUS. there're some NUS staff i know renting Blue Horizon. But only those new staff who cannot get a unit at Kent Vale rent. other nonfaculty staff with lower pay may not have good rental budget to stay at new condo asking higher rental. so more go to older condos (and students) , some along pasir panjang.
CW is not too far from NUS. there're some NUS staff i know renting Blue Horizon. But only those new staff who cannot get a unit at Kent Vale rent. other nonfaculty staff with lower pay may not have good rental budget to stay at new condo asking higher rental. so more go to older condos (and students) , some along pasir panjang.
Besides NUS, there are One-north, Science Park 1 &2, Biopolis, Japanese School. Why only target NUS????????
Besides NUS, there are One-north, Science Park 1 &2, Biopolis, Japanese School. Why only target NUS????????
I saw people discussing on CW and NUS, so I'm sharing my knowledge of (potential) NUS tenants as I've one of them and most of my friends are. I'm not supporting any side, just try to give facts and CW investors can judge themselves. I reworded for quite a while hoping not to make anyone unhappy. I thought I actually supported u by saying CW can get NUS rental?
For One-north, SP etc I didn't wanna comment. Since u mentioned, CW to SP2 direct bus. SP1 only bus on AYE but can walk to NUS and take free shuttle bus from NUS to SP1. Most tenants of Blue Horizon/westcove/west bay would probably go for CW also (except for sea view) if rental is similar.
I saw people discussing on CW and NUS, so I'm sharing my knowledge of (potential) NUS tenants as I've one of them and most of my friends are. I'm not supporting any side, just try to give facts and CW investors can judge themselves. I reworded for quite a while hoping not to make anyone unhappy. I thought I actually supported u by saying CW can get NUS rental?
For One-north, SP etc I didn't wanna comment. Since u mentioned, CW to SP2 direct bus. SP1 only bus on AYE but can walk to NUS and take free shuttle bus from NUS to SP1. Most tenants of Blue Horizon/westcove/west bay would probably go for CW also (except for sea view) if rental is similar.
Just wonder how much rental can get from NUS students?
You rent out whole unit to them or just by rooms?
Just wonder how much rental can get from NUS students?
You rent out whole unit to them or just by rooms?
Can't be much as they can easily rent HDB cheaply, or if they rent your condo they will squeeze about 6 students to spread the costs (although they will say only 3), I can't imagine the condition of the condo after a while.
Just wonder how much rental can get from NUS students?
You rent out whole unit to them or just by rooms?
NUS student should not be target group, at least for the first 5-10 years time.:tsk-tsk: First, new condo usually higher rental, so they cannot afford it, or do not think it's worth the price difference. Second, students don't maintain the unit well. Even if older students like Ph.D couple, or extreme case 2 graduates working with 8k family income, (a labmate of mine), just rent a 3rm HDB $1200 only or max $1400 (may even rent out a common room). Price is main concern for them. And such couples are just slightly better than a group of single students in maintaining the unit.
When market low around 2002-2004, westcove/west bay 3 bedder rental some even $1500 but that's rare, average close to 2k i guess. Some students stay there. Now around 3k so china faces are NUS staff family with kids, parents. (there're exceptions where landlord only charge 1-2k). Japanese always there, but not sure they rent or own.
When the unit become so old that you don't care about the furnishing at all (or maybe it is not a concern if only look at rental yield) and market rental low compared to newer ones, then students come in. if room big enough (like some old ones along Pasir Panjang), 2 single beds in 1 room, 3 bedder or larger would be good choice coz rental per person would be lower. Currently, 3 large bedroom unit (6 people share), $2800/per month is acceptable (some stay at Hillview area with this rental and sacrefice travelling time). i guess max $3k. If one's satisfied with this rental (in similar market now), then can always find tenant. Rent the whole unit out and the students will settle among themselves. The ones who sign contract with landlord might earn a little bit but also bear risk.
NUS exchange students from Europe, America etc are exceptions. They pay high coz they use USD/EURO :) but they stay for 6 months or 12 months only.
So what rental/psf r u targeting at?
Can't be much as they can easily rent HDB cheaply, or if they rent your condo they will squeeze about 6 students to spread the costs (although they will say only 3), I can't imagine the condition of the condo after a while.
agree, not only the unit less properly maintained, the condo environment will be more crowded or noisy. but it also depends on individual tenants. we (4 single girls) used to rent a terrace house and kept the place tidy and quiet.
proud owner
11-09-09, 21:02
Sounds desperate to me.
why sound desperate ?
i am merely question the earlier forumer who said CW is FH .. when its 99 yr LH
and since he mentioned FH projects and NUS rental i listed those nearer to NUS which are FH ..
for NUS .. there are many closer choices .. i really dont see CW as a first choice .. unless the rent is really cheap
I do not own anything there ,... let alone LH projects ..
why sound desperate ?
i am merely question the earlier forumer who said CW is FH .. when its 99 yr LH
and since he mentioned FH projects and NUS rental i listed those nearer to NUS which are FH ..
for NUS .. there are many closer choices .. i really dont see CW as a first choice .. unless the rent is really cheap
I do not own anything there ,... let alone LH projects ..
It is obvious from you post you know nothing about that area, other than CW and Varsity Park name me one that is closer to NUS and not near road junction with lots of traffic noise, who cares if it is FH or LH as you probably pay 20% more for FH.
proud owner
11-09-09, 21:46
It is obvious from you post you know nothing about that area, other than CW and Varsity Park name me one that is closer to NUS and not near road junction with lots of traffic noise, who cares if it is FH or LH as you probably pay 20% more for FH.
ya you are right
i know nothing about that area... cos i dont ever look at 99 yr lease projects ...
just stand outside CW and VP and Stellar ...
the noise is from the bus along west coast road .. so all the same ... units that are facing inside will be alot more peaceful ..regardless if its CW, VP or Stellar ..
the point i am making is that he said CW is FH ,,i am only trying to correct him and he said Nearer to NUS ..obviously CW is the furthest among the 3 ...
yes yes i dont know that area ..haha
hey guys, let's just share some information and view here. i find this forum very informative. no need to judge who knows what better or which project is the best. it's actually interesting to see that both views on "CW to NUS distance" makes good sense but from different angles (i don't comment on other things).
Take a look at the map or satellite image
http://www.streetdirectory.com/asia_travel/travel/travel_id_32304/travel_site_144231/
If one drives from west coast road, must pass by Varsity Park and Stellar b4 reaching NUS. In that sense, CW is further. But if one really stays at CW/VP/Stellar, won't bother to drive to work coz NUS parking lot limited and free car park only at Kent Vale (outside NUS) and student hall (Prince George Park Residence in the most remote park of NUS). Most convenient way is to walk, whether students or rich faculty staff. and shortest way is to walk through Clementiwoods Park. The trek is indicated accurately on the link above in dash line (southern most one). the other end is School of Design and Environment, Faculty of Engineering. people can take free shuttle bus to other parts of NUS. VP/Stellar are closer to Arts. but tenants wouldn't be that particular about such small difference in distance.
i didn't realize currently westcove is the "closest" one to NUS until now i have to move out and rent. owners, how much rental do yal plan? i'm interested but a bit afraid that new condo rental might be too high for me.
proud owner
11-09-09, 22:44
hey guys, let's just share some information and view here. i find this forum very informative. no need to judge who knows what better or which project is the best. it's actually interesting to see that both views on "CW to NUS distance" makes good sense but from different angles (i don't comment on other things).
Take a look at the map or satellite image
http://www.streetdirectory.com/asia_travel/travel/travel_id_32304/travel_site_144231/
If one drives from west coast road, must pass by Varsity Park and Stellar b4 reaching NUS. In that sense, CW is further. But if one really stays at CW/VP/Stellar, won't bother to drive to work coz NUS parking lot limited and free car park only at Kent Vale (outside NUS) and student hall (Prince George Park Residence in the most remote park of NUS). Most convenient way is to walk, whether students or rich faculty staff. and shortest way is to walk through Clementiwoods Park. The trek is indicated accurately on the link above in dash line (southern most one). the other end is School of Design and Environment, Faculty of Engineering. people can take free shuttle bus to other parts of NUS. VP/Stellar are closer to Arts. but tenants wouldn't be that particular about such small difference in distance.
i didn't realize currently westcove is the "closest" one to NUS until now i have to move out and rent. owners, how much rental do yal plan? i'm interested but a bit afraid that new condo rental might be too high for me.
do you work in NUS ?
i cant remember but theres a condo ..on the map ..looks like it is inside NUS .. nearer to the LAW faculty side..call WESTXXX somthing
its a FH old condo ...
definietly close to NUS and very QUIET
do you work in NUS ?
i cant remember but theres a condo ..on the map ..looks like it is inside NUS .. nearer to the LAW faculty side..call WESTXXX somthing
its a FH old condo ...
definietly close to NUS and very QUIET
Hmm .... thot law school was said to have moved to Bt Timah?
This westxxx is where ah? Anyway, those long enuff in this forum knows u FH supporter lah (hehee ... me 2; no need to bother with pp argue abt LH, FH) ;)
why sound desperate ?
i am merely question the earlier forumer who said CW is FH .. when its 99 yr LH
and since he mentioned FH projects and NUS rental i listed those nearer to NUS which are FH ..
for NUS .. there are many closer choices .. i really dont see CW as a first choice .. unless the rent is really cheap
I do not own anything there ,... let alone LH projects ..
Not you, I was agreeing with you by saying that cher sounds desperate to me.
proud owner
11-09-09, 23:06
Hmm .... thot law school was said to have moved to Bt Timah?
This westxxx is where ah? Anyway, those long enuff in this forum knows u FH supporter lah (hehee ... me 2; no need to bother with pp argue abt LH, FH) ;)
ahahha so you know how long i have left NUS ...
but yes there is a condo there .. from PP road .. going in towards the HSS library ..but turn left .. along Heng Mui Keng road
ahhh its not WESTXXXX
its called Royal Palm Mansion
do you work in NUS ?
i cant remember but theres a condo ..on the map ..looks like it is inside NUS .. nearer to the LAW faculty side..call WESTXXX somthing
its a FH old condo ...
definietly close to NUS and very QUIET
Hmm .... thot law school was said to have moved to Bt Timah?
This westxxx is where ah? Anyway, those long enuff in this forum knows u FH supporter lah (hehee ... me 2; no need to bother with pp argue abt LH, FH) ;)
i'm ex and present NUS student :p, stayed in this area for more than a decade. Yes, law has moved to bukit timah and replaced by part of computing. Not sure what is this westxxx, westvale? there're so many condos along pasir panjang (i can't remember them all), some are redeveloped. some maps don't update in time. there's only one entrance to NUS at Heng Mui Keng Ter leading to Business School, so those r good for Bizad guys.
ahahha so you know how long i have left NUS ...
but yes there is a condo there .. from PP road .. going in towards the HSS library ..but turn left .. along Heng Mui Keng road
ahhh its not WESTXXXX
its called Royal Palm Mansion
2 maps give 2 different locations :doh:. I don't recall such a condo along PP. inside NUS never saw condo. maybe it's redeveloped to Luxe Ville? also got a new project next to it but dunno what.
hey guys, let's just share some information and view here. i find this forum very informative. no need to judge who knows what better or which project is the best. it's actually interesting to see that both views on "CW to NUS distance" makes good sense but from different angles (i don't comment on other things).
Take a look at the map or satellite image
http://www.streetdirectory.com/asia_travel/travel/travel_id_32304/travel_site_144231/
If one drives from west coast road, must pass by Varsity Park and Stellar b4 reaching NUS. In that sense, CW is further. But if one really stays at CW/VP/Stellar, won't bother to drive to work coz NUS parking lot limited and free car park only at Kent Vale (outside NUS) and student hall (Prince George Park Residence in the most remote park of NUS). Most convenient way is to walk, whether students or rich faculty staff. and shortest way is to walk through Clementiwoods Park. The trek is indicated accurately on the link above in dash line (southern most one). the other end is School of Design and Environment, Faculty of Engineering. people can take free shuttle bus to other parts of NUS. VP/Stellar are closer to Arts. but tenants wouldn't be that particular about such small difference in distance.
i didn't realize currently westcove is the "closest" one to NUS until now i have to move out and rent. owners, how much rental do yal plan? i'm interested but a bit afraid that new condo rental might be too high for me.
You are right to say "depending on which faculty" lah.
NUS is so HUGE stretching from NUH side to Pasir Panjang and to Clementi Rooad. Everywhere within 1 km of the parameter of NUS is consider near?
Now if we are talking about CW, then is near to School of Design and Environment by cutting through Clementiwood Park. Many NUS students do that... and I remembered there was a case when a female student was assaulted while walking through the park.
Among the 2 condo, Stellar, VP and CW, VP has a backgate at Clementi road. So, in this sense, VP is more convenient.
You are right to say "depending on which faculty" lah.
NUS is so HUGE stretching from NUH side to Pasir Panjang and to Clementi Rooad. Everywhere within 1 km of the parameter of NUS is consider near?
Now if we are talking about CW, then is near to School of Design and Environment by cutting through Clementiwood Park. Many NUS students do that... and I remembered there was a case when a female student was assaulted while walking through the park.
Among the 2 condo, Stellar, VP and CW, VP has a backgate at Clementi road. So, in this sense, VP is more convenient.
exactly what i meant, really depends on where and how ones goes to NUS.
I mentioned that incident b4. it happened in another path (quite long) to HDBs at west coast. we were shocked. the path near CW looks darker and more scary but no choice had to go this way. alternative routes are too far by bus or on foot. The VP side gate is certainly safer, and closer to Arts. i tried buying or renting but too ex for me :(
2 maps give 2 different locations :doh:. I don't recall such a condo along PP. inside NUS never saw condo. maybe it's redeveloped to Luxe Ville? also got a new project next to it but dunno what.
saw palm mansion for sale on classified, so should be still there.
proud owner
13-09-09, 01:39
exactly what i meant, really depends on where and how ones goes to NUS.
I mentioned that incident b4. it happened in another path (quite long) to HDBs at west coast. we were shocked. the path near CW looks darker and more scary but no choice had to go this way. alternative routes are too far by bus or on foot. The VP side gate is certainly safer, and closer to Arts. i tried buying or renting but too ex for me :(
well ... if you start measuring from that gate along clementi rd to nus , then yes VP is near and safe .. but if you live in VP, in the block near its main gate .. we need to also measure the internal distance from that block to the gate along clementi rd ..
sorry i am being meticulous ..
well ... if you start measuring from that gate along clementi rd to nus , then yes VP is near and safe .. but if you live in VP, in the block near its main gate .. we need to also measure the internal distance from that block to the gate along clementi rd ..
sorry i am being meticulous ..
u make good scientist :D. anyway, i guess for such small difference, buyer/tenant would look at other factors. the 3 condos are quite different in my eyes. VP most units huge, so price/rental quantum is much higher than comparable condos with normal unit size. mostly for big family. many of those units are pretty quiet facing inside and noise blocked by blocks next to west coast rd. small size units r along clementi rd, so noisy. Stellar is FH, smaller, next to the junction. heard will be rd construction there? CW we can wait n c, myself not optimistic about noise from west coast rd, coz noise seems can travel to the innermost blocks. blocks are quite close to one another.
proud owner
13-09-09, 10:44
u make good scientist :D. anyway, i guess for such small difference, buyer/tenant would look at other factors. the 3 condos are quite different in my eyes. VP most units huge, so price/rental quantum is much higher than comparable condos with normal unit size. mostly for big family. many of those units are pretty quiet facing inside and noise blocked by blocks next to west coast rd. small size units r along clementi rd, so noisy. Stellar is FH, smaller, next to the junction. heard will be rd construction there? CW we can wait n c, myself not optimistic about noise from west coast rd, coz noise seems can travel to the innermost blocks. blocks are quite close to one another.
i have been inside Stellar many times ... only the block facing clementi road is noisy ..the rest are not .. even those facing west coast road is not noisy ...
ahahha so you know how long i have left NUS ...
but yes there is a condo there .. from PP road .. going in towards the HSS library ..but turn left .. along Heng Mui Keng road
ahhh its not WESTXXXX
its called Royal Palm Mansion
Huh? I thought you sound like my former classmate from University of Malaya..
Do you know who is the Interior Designer?
I own one of the unit there in CW.
Trying to search for it.
There are 2 different Interior Designer for their ShowFlat. You can call up their Developer or rather email to them. They will let you know.
I'm sorry. Apparently, I have forgotten the names when they told me.
For those who bought a unit in CW.
They have already installed the air-con and the brand is Mitsubishi. Model is MSXY-GA25VA for the indoor unit. Not too sure the model of the compressor.:D
There are 2 different Interior Designer for their ShowFlat. You can call up their Developer or rather email to them. They will let you know.
I'm sorry. Apparently, I have forgotten the names when they told me.
Below is the ID for their showflat, I have spoken to them once and realised their attitute not so good, their are only interested to talk to you in more details if you give them the assurance of engaging them and the amount of the reno must be of certain $.
http://www.elementsid.com.sg/index.html
2-3 months ago i was directed to a chinese engineer in the office, who said should be ready end of this year or early next year, should be before CNY
It really depend who you talk to.
Initially, the contractor wanted to pull out most of their resources by Auguest/September, leaving the landscape and others. But now one of them was telling me that it should be end of the year 2009.
However, when you contact Developer, they will tell you Q1 2010.
Typically, their progress is a little slow compare with other development. Isn't it?
stalingrad
30-09-09, 13:25
It really depend who you talk to.
Initially, the contractor wanted to pull out most of their resources by Auguest/September, leaving the landscape and others. But now one of them was telling me that it should be end of the year 2009.
However, when you contact Developer, they will tell you Q1 2010.
Typically, their progress is a little slow compare with other development. Isn't it?
Very slow indeed. Just look at carabelle and botannia, or even the stellar. all were launched about the same time.
Really hoping it TOP soon, so won't clash with CNY. Best is invite everyone over for CNY and won't need to do another house warming.
For those blocks facing one and another, wonder would it be allowable to glaze the window panels by the developer management. Otherwise, there will be no privacy at all!
Cannot imagine to roll down the curtains all the time.
Any suggestion?
stalingrad
02-10-09, 12:29
For those blocks facing one and another, wonder would it be allowable to glaze the window panels by the developer management. Otherwise, there will be no privacy at all!
Cannot imagine to roll down the curtains all the time.
Any suggestion?
yes, wear a suit and a tie to look nice to your neighbors.
stalingrad
02-10-09, 12:52
and don't forget to ask your wife and kids to look nice too.
For those blocks facing one and another, wonder would it be allowable to glaze the window panels by the developer management. Otherwise, there will be no privacy at all!
Cannot imagine to roll down the curtains all the time.
Any suggestion?
Put tall plants and landscape.
And don't listen to the stupid stalingrad.
Below is the ID for their showflat, I have spoken to them once and realised their attitute not so good, their are only interested to talk to you in more details if you give them the assurance of engaging them and the amount of the reno must be of certain $.
http://www.elementsid.com.sg/index.html
wow... i finally see a photo of the showflat after months of searching. Anyone has a photo of the private spa for 1st floor units?
you can have day curtain if you want.
I heard some frosted film can be put but not too sure.
Element ID was used on the 2-bedroom showflat at that time
Tropical Fish
04-10-09, 10:34
Just wondering when the owner will get the blueprint of the unit from developer. Can we request it before TOP? :confused:
A friend who owns a unit in Varsity Park got the blueprint right after purchasing the unit. Capitland provided the blueprints on-line, so my friend was able to plan the layout of all the furniture as early as possible.
http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/common/mast_home.gif
Suburban home prices soar
Some mid-tier projects have topped previous peaks, figures based on URA data show
Fiona Chan
The Straits Times
Friday, 9 October 2009
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Citylights, a new condominium which incorporates conservation shophouses in its layout, is almost complete. In the left background are HDB flats along Jellicoe Road. -- Photo: ST
House hunters: If it feels like that suburban condominium you are eyeing is just as expensive now as it was during the 2007-2008 property boom, that is because it probably is.
Although overall private home prices are still some 15% below recent peaks, prices of mass market homes have already climbed back to the levels of early last year, right before the recession hit.
According to the Urban Redevelopment Authority’s (URA’s) latest estimate, released last week, prices of suburban private homes are just 3% shy of their peak levels in the second quarter of last year.
Some individual projects – such as Seletaris in Yio Chu Kang and Casa Merah in Tanah Merah – have already surpassed these levels, going by calculations done by The Straits Times using data from URA’s Realis database.
For mid-tier properties, URA’s data indicated prices remain about 15% off peaks last year.
But some condos in this category are also bucking the trend, with higher prices in the third quarter this year than in the property boom just past.
In the Jalan Besar area, for instance, three condominiums – Citylights, Southbank, and City Square Residences – are now commanding higher average psf than they did at the height of the boom, according to The Straits Times’ calculations.
The calculations compared these condos’ average price psf in the third quarter this year with the second quarter of last year. All the projects had several sales in the most recent quarter, but some had as few as two in the second quarter of last year as sentiment tapered off ahead of the recession.
Similarly, in the East Coast area, projects such as The Esta and The Sea View have already breached their peak average psf prices. This pattern has also cropped up in selected condos from Clementiwoods in Clementi to The Regency @ Tiong Bahru.
While launches of suburban condos have seen a massive surge in demand in recent months, resales of existing homes have so far stayed out of the limelight. But they have also been appreciating in value as sentiment in the real estate market goes from strength to strength, said property consultants.
'For mass-market leasehold projects outside the prime areas, just based on resale prices, we have almost gone back to the 2007-2008 levels,' said Ms Chua Chor Hoon, head of South-east Asia research at DTZ Debenham Tie Leung.
According to her research, the average price of a leasehold non-landed resale home rose to $610 psf in the third quarter of this year, a mere $5 psf less than the most recent peak of $615 psf.
With private home prices still on an uptrend, having jumped a 20-year record of 16% in the third quarter this year, it seems just a matter of time before suburban condo prices hit new highs.
But consultants say this may not necessarily happen, at least not by the end of this year.
For one thing, the Government’s measures to cool the property market, announced last month, could have a dampening effect on home sales and moderate price increases.
This is unlikely to hit actual demand for homes, but the announcement’s psychological impact could cause a knee-jerk reaction and help prevent private home prices from escalating at an unsustainable pace, said Ms Tay Huey Ying, director of research and advisory at property firm Colliers International.
'As it is, the stand-offs between buyers and sellers in the secondary market are showing signs of a return,' she said. Buyers are also starting to complain about the higher prices of mass market homes.
'We have seen a slight slowdown in sales generally in the market, partly because of the prices, and partly because of the Government’s announcements,' she said, adding that prices have yet to suffer.
'I think some people are refusing to pay high prices, but sellers are not lowering their asking prices, so we are seeing the number of inquiries and also transactions come down a bit.'
Tropical Fish
14-10-09, 16:49
Hi, has any owner got approached by an interior design company called "Yonder" lately? :confused:
Or was anyone's home done by this ID company before? Appreciated any comments on this company.
Yup, remember this name from a cold call. Perhaps they got info from ura or simply the register book when u went shopping for houses. You can expect to receive flyers as well. Guess it's not uncommon that these small companies can find ways & means to track you down =)
Tropical Fish
14-10-09, 23:11
I'd got their call twice. Since I have started searching ID company, I made an appointment to meet one of their designers today. After having our initial discussion, I'm waiting for a quote from them now.
I'm still looking for other ID companies. So, appreciate that if anyone can make recommendations.
Thanks! :)
Tropical Fish
14-10-09, 23:19
Yup, remember this name from a cold call. Perhaps they got info from ura or simply the register book when u went shopping for houses. You can expect to receive flyers as well. Guess it's not uncommon that these small companies can find ways & means to track you down =)
I guess they have the name list of owners, not just for Clementiwoods but for other condos as well. I was told that the person who makes those calls is their tele-marketing manager. Well, since they offer a no obligations and free consultation, it's no harm to take this chance to get more info. I still leave my options open at this point. ;)
To me Yonder ID seems to be alright. I have actually shortlist Yonder but I have yet to contact them. Look through some of the ID magazine, they have some good design.
I have shortlisted OrangeCube. Quite a good ID.... will hold my 1st discussion this coming Tuesday.... :) ;)
I had a visit to the construction site, to my surprise, the project is no where near to completion.
Can advise how the ID can contribute at this point while the developer is still digging swimming pools, ponds and constructing the club house?
My agent told me that TOP may only happen at the 3 quarter of 2010.
They are also constructing one small building ( around 2-storey tall) in front of block 80/78. Any idea what is that?
yep, the progress seems to be fairly slow, impossible to TOP in the Q1 of next year. The small building you referred should be the power station, which is near the entrance of underground car park.
I had a visit to the construction site, to my surprise, the project is no where near to completion.
Can advise how the ID can contribute at this point while the developer is still digging swimming pools, ponds and constructing the club house?
My agent told me that TOP may only happen at the 3 quarter of 2010.
They are also constructing one small building ( around 2-storey tall) in front of block 80/78. Any idea what is that?
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I had a visit to the construction site, to my surprise, the project is no where near to completion.
Can advise how the ID can contribute at this point while the developer is still digging swimming pools, ponds and constructing the club house?
My agent told me that TOP may only happen at the 3 quarter of 2010.
They are also constructing one small building ( around 2-storey tall) in front of block 80/78. Any idea what is that?
When you say "My agent", are you referring to property agent, lawyer agency, contractor, developer?
I will asked the contractor (the one with white hat), what is their timeline to hand-over. From time to time, the timeline will change from Aug09 to Dec09.
Developer on the other hand, they target to TOP by Q1'10, perhaps March 2010.
If you look at the progress. Blk 90 has completed most of the furnishing like cabinets, air-con etc. For the landscape, the 50m lap-pool has filled up with the clement and tiling will be next together with the main pool.
BBQ pit is almost completed. Tennis court, I heard it was completed beginning of this year.
Anyway, really hope this project can TOP by Feb 2010.:rolleyes:
My dear housing agent told me that I can start contacting the developer in the event I would like to change the type of tiles or replacing the existing wordrobe.
Anyone can advise whether is true?
My dear housing agent told me that I can start contacting the developer in the event I would like to change the type of tiles or replacing the existing wordrobe.
Anyone can advise whether is true?
wow.. got such thing meh? I thought it's all standard equipment and you cannot ask for change. If everyone asks for change.. imagine how long it would take them to finish.
hi sorry to hijack this thread.. may i know is there any studio owner intending to sell? I hv a buyer keen on it..
hi sorry to hijack this thread.. may i know is there any studio owner intending to sell? I hv a buyer keen on it..
Recent transacted price of studio unit has hit close to $950 psf already.
It is amazing how the price in cw has risen so fast last few months! Won't be surprise it will reach $1k psf , looking at the asking price of sellers in propertguru.
Anyone realized that a number of the 5th floor units which supposed to be on the highest floor has an attic n has rows of full glass windows above? Are they for show only? Also is the ceiling height of 5th unit very high?
stalingrad
28-10-09, 13:06
Anyone realized that a number of the 5th floor units which supposed to be on the highest floor has an attic n has rows of full glass windows above? Are they for show only? Also is the ceiling height of 5th unit very high?
Those are penhouses, which have two floors.
Those are penhouses, which have two floors.
I m refering to units that are not penhouse on 5th floors which uncles mix of studio n 2 rooms type in blk 78. There is no penhouse in that block
I stay in the VP block that faces Blk 78, and from what I can see, there does not appear to be any attic for those 5th floor units, and the ceiling also doesnt appear to be double volume (unlike the penthouses). I have always been curious as to why they built the ceiling so high for the 5th floor units of Blk 78, only to have what appears to be a cement wall behind the upper half-windows. Would have a better view once the green curtain comes down.
I stay in the VP block that faces Blk 78, and from what I can see, there does not appear to be any attic for those 5th floor units, and the ceiling also doesnt appear to be double volume (unlike the penthouses). I have always been curious as to why they built the ceiling so high for the 5th floor units of Blk 78, only to have what appears to be a cement wall behind the upper half-windows. Would have a better view once the green curtain comes down.
It may not be attic but the glass windows on top of 5th flloor units are probably there for design sake...
It may not be attic but the glass windows on top of 5th flloor units are probably there for design sake...
Yes, you are probably right. In fact, from what I can see, the designers of CW have made quite interesting use of windows as design features - there are some "windows" next to and at the same level as balconies, and that must mean that the floor slab is just behind such "windows", which means they cannot be opened and are there purely for decorative reasons.
Yes, you are probably right. In fact, from what I can see, the designers of CW have made quite interesting use of windows as design features - there are some "windows" next to and at the same level as balconies, and that must mean that the floor slab is just behind such "windows", which means they cannot be opened and are there purely for decorative reasons.
Yeah, some units there have glass windows on the exterior, below their bay windows. From far. it give the impression that it has a full window. I would say in term of design, cw would have a more attractive design than vp or stellar.
My dear housing agent told me that I can start contacting the developer in the event I would like to change the type of tiles or replacing the existing wordrobe.
Anyone can advise whether is true?
Its too late spn25. If you ask before May or June, you still able to make it provide your block is not 90, it must be those near varsity park.... if you block is 90 then is should be earlier......
I asked them but I have decided not to because they have bought the material for my unit..... if I have contacted them earlier say Feb or earlier... the developer able to do something like offset the price different etc.....
stalingrad
02-11-09, 10:14
Yeah, some units there have glass windows on the exterior, below their bay windows. From far. it give the impression that it has a full window. I would say in term of design, cw would have a more attractive design than vp or stellar.
Either that or the developer wants to save money by replacing concrete walls with windows. you know how expensive sand is in Singapore. Very soon, every building in Singapore will be wrapped in glass to reduce the amount of sand used in construction. But glass in a heat conductor, and makes your living rooms terribly hot.
Either that or the developer wants to save money by replacing concrete walls with windows. you know how expensive sand is in Singapore. Very soon, every building in Singapore will be wrapped in glass to reduce the amount of sand used in construction. But glass in a heat conductor, and makes your living rooms terribly hot.
Glass also made from sand.
Delay again.!!!!!!!!!!!
my spouse called up the developer.... guess what.....
TOP delayed to Q2 2010.....:doh:
What is the matter with the constructor and developer!!!!!!!!!
They are really lousy in this sense, although TOP is Dec 2010....:simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering:
proud owner
06-11-09, 22:25
Delay again.!!!!!!!!!!!
my spouse called up the developer.... guess what.....
TOP delayed to Q2 2010.....:doh:
What is the matter with the constructor and developer!!!!!!!!!
They are really lousy in this sense, although TOP is Dec 2010....:simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering:
i am sorry to hear that the delayed the TOP ..
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making it hard to plan your 'moving' date...or even 'selling' your currrent place ..etc etc ..
by the way .. why do you address your spouse as SPOUSE ?
and not MY WIFE or MY HUSBAND ..
very rare (to almost unheard of) using MY SPOUSE ...
interesting :confused: ... spouse = husband or wife ( ie not specific in gender...)
spouse..... its the other half....... someone close, right?:)
Huh......for those who have not seen 3-bedroom CW..... at blk 90
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44460035@N07/4086719684/
Just drove past today. The green curtains have finally ben taken off most of the blocks. The colour of the building looks a bit dull actually. Yellow and brown. The are building the club house, gym and digging the pool. Progress of these new structures seem to be quite fast. Saw quite a few contractors inside some units already doing the internal furnishings, I guess.
when is top going to be? anyone knows anything?
It's been some time since I received any letter from the bank for any new stages of loan disbursement. Club house still building. Blocks at both ends more or less completed, but I didn't look inside to see the finishings. The centre blocks still look unfinished.
It's been some time since I received any letter from the bank for any new stages of loan disbursement. Club house still building. Blocks at both ends more or less completed, but I didn't look inside to see the finishings. The centre blocks still look unfinished.
Basing on what I see, top not likely before cny as someone predicted... My take would probably be even second quarter of 2010
Basing on what I see, top not likely before cny as someone predicted... My take would probably be even second quarter of 2010
better dun chase them if not they anyhow do and give u lousy work :(
Just got to learn from one of the foreman in the CW construction that all mesh curtain targetted to bring down by 15 Jan 2010. That is to finish the exterior paint work.
According to him, swimming pool has completed and left the landscaping need to be done.
TOP.... hmm. My guess is April the earliest.... Need months to approve those applications related to the TOP......:(
There is a single-storey-block building beside block 78 facing the road (next to unit #01-04), which looks like a typical HDB rubbish dump. Anyone knows what it's for? Seriously if it's really the rubbish dump then it's quite badly located cos it's next to a few units. It's not shown in the brochure plan.
There is a single-storey-block building beside block 78 facing the road (next to unit #01-04), which looks like a typical HDB rubbish dump. Anyone knows what it's for? Seriously if it's really the rubbish dump then it's quite badly located cos it's next to a few units. It's not shown in the brochure plan.
Is yr unit located near this building?? mabbe it is some kind of power generator or something...
Yes. This small building is for power generation. You can find it from the developer floorplan. In my view, it's better to be away from it.
Is yr unit located near this building?? mabbe it is some kind of power generator or something...
Just got to learn from one of the foreman in the CW construction that all mesh curtain targetted to bring down by 15 Jan 2010. That is to finish the exterior paint work.
According to him, swimming pool has completed and left the landscaping need to be done.
TOP.... hmm. My guess is April the earliest.... Need months to approve those applications related to the TOP......:(
Just down the road, the parc condo seems to be faster. It started construction in 2008 and now already overtaking Clementiwoods , even it has many more units :doh:
Hey Guys.... perhaps CW owners....
Do you know that there's a Clementiwoods Condo website?
Not too sure if this is the official site for the Clementiwoods Residents....
See:
http://www.clementiwoodscondo.com/
I'm trying to link up with the developer to verify this site and it seems that more information going to be added......
proud owner
04-01-10, 23:41
Yes. This small building is for power generation. You can find it from the developer floorplan. In my view, it's better to be away from it.
a friend of mine staying in a landed house , next to something similar ... some kind of power house ...
during the 2007/8 he tried to sell his house but couldnt .. while his surrounding neighbours all sold ... simply becos it was next to a power house .. .
we used to joke that ..after 10 yrs there .. he could now be X Men ...with some kind of super power ...
Hey Guys.... perhaps CW owners....
Do you know that there's a Clementiwoods Condo website?
Not too sure if this is the official site for the Clementiwoods Residents....
See:
http://www.clementiwoodscondo.com/
I'm trying to link up with the developer to verify this site and it seems that more information going to be added......
Nice website. Should be some property agents who came up with it, not the developer. Anyone knows how to get the developer floor plans? All I have is the sales brochure.
The property agents... really know how and perhaps try their luck if developer is trying to buy over their URL domain name.....
Maybe should create a similar domain.....hmm.....:rolleyes:
There is a single-storey-block building beside block 78 facing the road (next to unit #01-04), which looks like a typical HDB rubbish dump. Anyone knows what it's for? Seriously if it's really the rubbish dump then it's quite badly located cos it's next to a few units. It's not shown in the brochure plan.
I just look into it as the concrete pathway toward it had been laid. in there there are water taps n totally empty. doesn't look like power station.
Tropical Fish
18-01-10, 08:29
Just got a letter from lawyer: "The TOP is expected to be issued sometime in the second quarter of 2010." :)
Cheers!
I just look into it as the concrete pathway toward it had been laid. in there there are water taps n totally empty. doesn't look like power station.
oh... then could it be the rubbish dump? I pity #01-04 of Block 78 then. It's just beside that unit.
Just got a letter from lawyer: "The TOP is expected to be issued sometime in the second quarter of 2010." :)
Cheers!
Woa......
Did the letter mention which month TOP? Hmmm... can't wait...
This development is rather long to complete.......
I got the letter fr my lawyer as well : )
Only indicating Q2, hope it be Apr...
cheers
Woa......
Did the letter mention which month TOP? Hmmm... can't wait...
This development is rather long to complete.......
Anyone who has seen the showflat can describe what the private spa looks like? Does it come with hot water supply, you think?
Anyone who has seen the showflat can describe what the private spa looks like? Does it come with hot water supply, you think?
wa....your unit has spa......
I've seen the show flat but don't remember he mentioned about the hot water......
if don't have....maybe you need to boil some water and pour in....:D
the spa tub is yet to install.... I seen them tilt on the side....
wa....your unit has spa......
I've seen the show flat but don't remember he mentioned about the hot water......
if don't have....maybe you need to boil some water and pour in....:D
the spa tub is yet to install.... I seen them tilt on the side....
you managed to walk in the site to see ah? I can't really see much when looking in from the outside.
You reckon the spa can fit 2? Or just a mini one?
Went past on Sunday and asked the guard when will finish and the guard said end of March. OMG! Seems like everytime the completion date gets later and later. My friend staying next dorr said progress slow like snail....sigh...
honestly March is very fast already, from the look of the development.
Latest update on Frasers Centrepoint website
http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.com/FCH_homebuyer_construction.html
I went pass today.... saw some workers carried plank of mirrors into block 90..... most likely its for the bath room....
If your unit has spa, take a look at those penthouse unit, their spa tub is yet to install...... still lying on the balcony..... probably one of the last items to install and fit.
if you happen to drive pass in the night, you might notice the lift lobby area were lighted up.....
The swimming pool has filled with water ...... !!!!:D :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes:
Do you think that the TOP got chance to be in April? Even Marina Bay Sands alreay commited 27 April open.....:confused:
Before TOP, there are a lot more certification to be done like, electrical system, plumping system, sewage system, lift, structural of the building, testing, auditing process etc..........unless all these have been done and verified, otherwise....:(
From the exterior look of it, my thought would be end April, may be few days later after the IR....:D
Auspicious Day huh......
You see, we still see the scaffold at the functional surrounding, could be the last few major works.......
There's still more work to be done on the road entry and the landscape......:( :confused:
But I really hope to get the key by end April.........;) ;) ;)
Tropical Fish
02-03-10, 09:06
I'm hoping by the end of March loh...:confused:
But I really hope to get the key by end April.........;) ;) ;)
All future neighbours :)
Only 240 units in there, so will be a nice cosy environment.
I went in to Varisty Park to walk around, it's very nice also. Can see why it commands such a high price, even comparable to Stellar price.
But they have much more units than CW.
Which is the alternative route, besides using AYE TUAS, with less traffic congestion, from West Coast (clementiWood) to NTU? Thank you.
Which is the alternative route, besides using AYE TUAS, with less traffic congestion, from West Coast (clementiWood) to NTU? Thank you.
Exit left, till Clementi Rd, right turn into West Coast highway, thru to Jurong Port Rd and then rejoin AYE. Smoother, but longer ride.
Even Botannia, which was launched in 2007, has TOP liao... what's taking Frasers so long?
stalingrad
11-03-10, 11:35
Even Botannia, which was launched in 2007, has TOP liao... what's taking Frasers so long?
TOPs for carabelle and botannia were issued in July 2009, to be exact, almost 9 months ago.
I stopped to look at the site today. Spa pools are on the porch already, though not installed. Saw the wrappers with the word "Nordic". If it is indeed the brand, most probably will be similar to this one:
http://www.nordichottubs.com/all-nordic-spas-and-accessories/five-person-tubs/impulse-dp-5-person-spa.html
Front porch almost done up. But I would estimate earliest end April TOP
spas are sheltered by some translucent panels above
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Unit at ClementiWoods sold for $870 psf
The Edge
Monday, 11 March 2010
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ClementiWoods
Once seen as a poor cousin to the prime East Coast area, the West Coast is gaining in popularity, with transformation of the entire western region underway.
There are one-north, with Biopolis, its biomedical research cluster, and Fusionopolis, its infocomm and media cluster; wellknown tertiary institutions like the National University of Singapore (NUS) and INSEAD; parkland and green lungs like West Coast Park and Hort Park nearby; and the Clementi MRT station and the Ayer Raja Expressway (AYE), which are also located nearby.
ClementiWoods condominium, located along the quiet West Coast Road neighbourhood near NUS, has been enjoying an uptrend in the prices of units since last June. A high of $974 psf was achieved when a 560 sqft unit was sold for $545,000 last November, surpassing the peak of $819 psf in 2007. The 240-unit condominium, developed by Frasers Centrepoint Homes, is due to receive its temporary occupation permit (TOP) in 1H2010.
For the period of Feb 4 to 12, there were three transactions at ClementiWoods in the price range of $836 to $870 psf, according to caveats lodged with URA Realis.
The owners, who had purchased the units at the launch in 2007, made significant gains. On Feb 11, a 1,130 sqft unit on the 5th floor was sold for $950,000, or $841 psf, netting a 55% gain for the original owner, who bought the unit for $612,000, or $541 psf. On the second floor, two units changed hands. A 1,076 sqft unit was sold for $900,000, or $836 psf. The previous owner had purchased it for $592,000, reaping a gain of 52%. The other sale was for a larger 1,388 sqft unit, which fetched $1.2 million, or $870 psf, translating into a gain of 45%.
Adjacent to ClementiWoods is the 530- unit Varsity Park condominium developed by CapitaLand and completed in 2008. On Feb 11, a 1,991 sqft unit on the 5th floor was sold for $1.6 million, or $828 psf — a 106% gain for the previous owner, who had purchased the unit a year after it was launched in 2005 for $800,320, or $402 psf.
In the Buona Vista area, there has been strong interest in One-North Residences, located within a 200ha development funded by the government for growing the biomedical, infocomm and digital media industries. Prices of the 405-unit condominium, which received TOP last year, have seen strong support at the $1,000 psf level since last July. They hit a high of $1,280 psf last October when a 570 sqft unit on the fourth floor was sold for $730,000.
For the period of Feb 4 to 12, 2 units were sold. It was the 2nd time both units changed hands since the launch of the project in 2007 by the consortium of developers — Kheng Leong, United Overseas Land, and Low Keng Huat. A 592 sqft unit on the 5th floor was sold for $735,000, or $1,242 psf, and prior to this sale, it had changed hands for $645,000 or, $1,089 psf, last August. In 2007, it was sold for $518,914, or $877 psf.
A 1,420 sqft unit on the 10th floor was sold for $1.5 million, or $1,056 psf. The original buyer had purchased the unit for $1.36 million or $957 psf, in June 2007. Before this, it had been sold for $1.15 million, or $814 psf.
Property agents say interest in the West Coast area has also spiked in the run-up to the private preview of Cheung Kong (Holdings)’s The Vision, its highend condominium on West Coast Crescent that is expected to be priced above $1,000 psf.
the developer has submitted the TOP request.....
SPA has installed.....
There's still some interior need to be done, like mirrors, glass door, wall surfacing, guard house wiring, the barrier gate, telecommunication wiring etc.....
At least the landscape is about 90% done.....
Now, its already 13th March....... 2 more weeks will be end March.....
6 more weeks... hopefully they able to TOP by then......
By the way, if you happen to drive pass in the night, you will see the pavement light (lamp pole) being lighted up..... its nice.......
Hi etbj, Thanks for your information about TOP. It's such a long waiting!
Btw, do you know how we can get the accurate sizes of the walls and windows in layout before TOP? I hope to begin some preparation from now.
icer_sun
the developer has submitted the TOP request.....
SPA has installed.....
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I have no clue about this...:confused: :confused: :confused:
But I believe the window size should be somewhat the same as other condo with similar design, take other showroom as reference...... reason..cost and efficiency... perhaps.
The length of the wall does not matter to you if your carpentry work is based on per foot run, unless your carpentry work run exactly the length of the wall, otherwise it should matter to you at all.
Hi etbj, Thanks for your information about TOP. It's such a long waiting!
Btw, do you know how we can get the accurate sizes of the walls and windows in layout before TOP? I hope to begin some preparation from now.
icer_sun
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