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mr funny
11-02-09, 12:48
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/news/story/0,4574,318454,00.html?

Published February 11, 2009

Launch of 6 more condos likely in next few months

All but one of these private condo projects are on 99-yr-leasehold sites

By KALPANA RASHIWALA


DEVELOPERS of at least six mass-market private condos could release their projects in the next few months, riding on buying momentum generated lately by the Caspian condo near Jurong Lake - despite the recession.

Property consultancy CB Richard Ellis (CBRE) tips Oasis @ Elias, The Gale on Flora Road in Upper Changi and Ascentia Sky on Alexandra Road among projects for possible launch in the next two quarters.

Others include UOL's 646-unit condo at Simei Street 4, Frasers Centrepoint's project in Woodleigh Close and a 571-unit condo by NTUC Choice Homes at Lor 2/3 Toa Payoh near Braddell MRT Station.

All but one of these projects are on 99-year-leasehold sites bought through government land tenders in the past 14 months. The exception is The Gale, a freehold condo to be developed by Tripartite Developers as the latest in its series of condo projects in the Upper Changi location.

Frasers Centrepoint's recent sales spurt for Caspian has shown where the base price is for the mass market.

The developer released the first 250 units of the 99-year-leasehold condo during a preview last week, at an average price of $580 per square foot (psf), followed by a second batch of about 130 better-facing units at $600 psf. So far, more than 330 units have been sold in the development, which is next to Lakeside MRT Station.

BT understands the developer is likely to offer a further 150 units during a public launch this weekend - and that pricing is likely to be calibrated upwards.

CBRE executive director Joseph Tan attributes the good response to Caspian partly to its timely launch, coinciding with the government's announcement in Parliament that it will upgrade, expand and transform Jurong into a business and recreational hub.

'The project is also priced competitively, within the affordability of HDB upgraders,' he said. 'The sales momentum seen at Caspian is an encouragement to developers to get their projects ready for launch in the second and third quarters of 2009.'

Knight Frank executive director Peter Ow said that in current conditions, mass-market suburban projects aimed at HDB upgraders are more likely to sell than projects in other segments.

'After all, HDB upgraders buying private homes for their own occupation are the core group of buyers left today,' he said. 'Investors and 'specu-vestors' are lying low. And as for foreign buyers, investing in overseas properties might not be a priority right now.'

Amid today's tight lending climate, owner-occupiers are also more likely to secure finance from banks than investors, provided they have the means to service their loans, Mr Ow said.

He reckons that for condos in outlying areas near MRT stations, the price resistance for a new launch in today's market would probably be in the $600-650 psf range on average.

Another analyst put a price resistance in a higher band of $750-$850 psf for condos in mature HDB estates such as Toa Payoh and Ang Mo Kio.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2009-02-11/krlaunch11.jpg

Leewk
29-04-09, 13:30
Have been looking at this site since it was awarded to CES.

Some progress report attached.

Oasis@Elias Info Board onsite.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=621&stc=1&d=1240982313

Oasis@Elias Construction Progress 30 Oct 08
http://forums.condosingapore.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=622&stc=1&d=1240982389

Oasis@Elias Construction Progress 10 Dec 08
http://forums.condosingapore.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=623&stc=1&d=1240982389

Oasis@Elias Construction Progress 11 Jan 09
http://forums.condosingapore.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=624&stc=1&d=1240982498

Oasis@Elias Construction Progress 8 Mar 09
http://forums.condosingapore.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=625&stc=1&d=1240982498

Oasis@Elias Construction Progress 18 Apr 09
http://forums.condosingapore.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=626&stc=1&d=1240982498

About 2 weeks ago, all the big construction equipments were out of site and no much activity seen then. The whole site seem to be abandoned. Even guards are not present at all.

Had checked with CES previously and the last comm in early Mar was :
We regret to inform you that there are still transition changes to the design, unit mix (sizes) and layout and as such, we are unable to release any information at this stage.

Anyone has any updates ?

Thanks.

gfoo
29-04-09, 13:51
they held off the launch lor. http://www.chipengseng.com.sg/administration/Reports/98a840e7-f49c-443e-b953-a434cb068a29_Chip%20Eng%20Seng%20-%20Westcomb%20-%2020090223%20-%20FY08%20Results%20Updates.pdf

In Feb at $540psf, CES will make a $500k loss. Now Livia is touching $497psf. That will make their losses be in the millions if they go at $500psf.

Leewk
06-05-09, 20:04
got some feedback from the developer and i believe the launching is very soon; probably during the June holiday. Saw the showflat being renovated now and the site preparing some big launching posters.

jitkiat
06-05-09, 20:21
they held off the launch lor. http://www.chipengseng.com.sg/administration/Reports/98a840e7-f49c-443e-b953-a434cb068a29_Chip%20Eng%20Seng%20-%20Westcomb%20-%2020090223%20-%20FY08%20Results%20Updates.pdf

In Feb at $540psf, CES will make a $500k loss. Now Livia is touching $497psf. That will make their losses be in the millions if they go at $500psf.

Livia selling at 497psf ? I believe u refer to this transaction for 1711 sqft (850k quantum) in March. This is most likely a 3-bedroom ground floor unit which include a large PES (which is virtually no cost for developer) into the equation. To be realistic, even 2nd floor will cost you 600-602psf. If a 2nd floor 3 bedroom is selling at 500psf, the HDB resale price will crash back to 2002 level.

Autonomy
06-05-09, 20:31
they held off the launch lor. http://www.chipengseng.com.sg/administration/Reports/98a840e7-f49c-443e-b953-a434cb068a29_Chip%20Eng%20Seng%20-%20Westcomb%20-%2020090223%20-%20FY08%20Results%20Updates.pdf

In Feb at $540psf, CES will make a $500k loss. Now Livia is touching $497psf. That will make their losses be in the millions if they go at $500psf.
For Livia, the avg is still around $600psf. Only one unit is transacted at $497psf. Either is on a very low floor, or it has got some undesirable attributes that causes it to be transacted at such a low price.

vinc1281
18-05-09, 09:02
Any idea is the sales office of Oasis @ Elias directly opposite Elias Mall?

The white building near the cross junction?

Seem like it will be ready in a few weeks time. :D

Leewk
18-05-09, 09:21
Any idea is the sales office of Oasis @ Elias directly opposite Elias Mall?

The white building near the cross junction?

Seem like it will be ready in a few weeks time. :D

Yes, that's the showroom & sales office.
Been there a few times and I believe the sales may start during the coming school holiday.

vinc1281
18-05-09, 11:49
Yes, that's the showroom & sales office.
Been there a few times and I believe the sales may start during the coming school holiday.

Thanks for the info.

I will be interested to know if Oasis will influence prices of units in Pasir Ris, e.g. Livia, Riz Haven. :D

vinc1281
28-05-09, 10:25
The wall papers are up at the show unit and construction site. So i'm expecting the launch soon!

Let see what effect that will have on Livia. :D

Feel free to arrange for a meetup together at the show unit. I will be going down for a look then we can share pointers. do PM me for arrangement. My wife will be going down with me.

Leewk
01-06-09, 09:25
Some updates.
A drab looking Condo, believed those sea-facing (actually is straits facing) units are the one nearest the Elias CC. No Sea+Pool facing. The whole development is typical of CES type at AMK; all enclosed and basic quality fittings.

vincelee
01-06-09, 11:39
hi guys, FYI

Developer : Chip Eng Seng
Location : Elias Road
Tenure : 99 yrs from 17/03/2008
Exp TOP : 31 dec 2012
Exp Completion : 31 dec 2015
Site Area : 152,055 sqf
No of units : 388
Blks/Storeys : 6 blks of 18 Storey
No of carparks: 399
Est Plot Ratio: 3.18
Est GFA : 483,875 sqf

Unit Type

2bdrms 88-112sqm / 947-1208sqf 95 units
3bdrms 111-143sqm / 1195-1539sqf 211 units
4bdrms 131-139sqm / 1410-1496sqf 73 units
Penthouse 206-247sqm / 2217-2659sqf 9 units

Expected to launch @ july 2009

some picture @ http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/401520


Best regards
Vince Lee
ERA Preeminent Division

vinc1281
05-06-09, 11:24
hi guys, FYI

Developer : Chip Eng Seng
Location : Elias Road
Tenure : 99 yrs from 17/03/2008
Exp TOP : 31 dec 2012
Exp Completion : 31 dec 2015
Site Area : 152,055 sqf
No of units : 388
Blks/Storeys : 6 blks of 18 Storey
No of carparks: 399
Est Plot Ratio: 3.18
Est GFA : 483,875 sqf

Unit Type

2bdrms 88-112sqm / 947-1208sqf 95 units
3bdrms 111-143sqm / 1195-1539sqf 211 units
4bdrms 131-139sqm / 1410-1496sqf 73 units
Penthouse 206-247sqm / 2217-2659sqf 9 units

Expected to launch @ july 2009

some picture @ http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/401520


Best regards
Vince Lee
ERA Preeminent Division

Looks like there is going to be a MSCP. and for the plot area, the 6 blocks does look quite cramped up. But those facing elias mall will be getting unblocked sea view.

Interested to know the price for the 3BR and see how it will affect pricing in nearby projects like Livia. :D

marktkt22
17-06-09, 23:59
Elias mall is a very small mall, with limited shops. Definitely not a selling point. As for seaview ... i am not sure. It like a condo nested among HDB with a small mall beside it.:)

ClemenceLY
22-06-09, 23:34
In terms of location, would Livia be better since it is nearer to MRT station ? (Oasis is slightly nearer to sea-side.)

nobrainer32007
22-06-09, 23:45
no offence, the location CMI :doh:

not even near to mrt. must take feeder bus.

elias mall so hopeless. at most can call middle class provision shops with wet market.

sooo far from town.

time to consider moving elsewhere unless u work for sia.

just some sanity check. no need to rush



In terms of location, would Livia be better since it is nearer to MRT station ? (Oasis is slightly nearer to sea-side.)

DKSG
23-06-09, 00:35
Any one knows how is the preview results so far ?

Lukewarm ?

cheerful
23-06-09, 08:35
Any one knows how is the preview results so far ?

Lukewarm ?

Passed by the showflat .. ready for launch but said to be only "akang datang" ... guess u'll have to stay tuned since it should be coming soon.

But as said in another previous post, alot of unfav factors hard to ignore, so don't think this is gg to be another 8@W I hope .. :)

bargain hunter
23-06-09, 10:21
From BT today, looks like Oasis will be launched very soon followed by the Gale.

Chip Eng Seng group's Oasis @ Elias condo is expected to be released soon, as early as this week. The 99-year project has a total 388 units and should give some competition to City Developments' Livia condo nearby.
Over at Flora Road, in the Upper Changi area, Tripartite Developers is getting ready to launch its freehold condo, The Gale. A Facebook page for the project will be launched to help market the project.
The Gale comprises 329 units in nine blocks. The eight-storey project has a range of unit sizes, from one-bedders to four-bedroom apartments with a roof terrace.
Buyers will have the option of signing up for IAS. Buyers and current owners of a Tripartite property will enjoy a loyalty bonus (a 0.5 per cent price discount) if they buy a unit at The Gale, and a referral fee (0.5 per cent of purchase price) if they get a friend or family member to buy a unit in the condo.
Tripartite is a joint venture involving Hong Leong Holdings, City Developments and TID Pte Ltd. Hong Leong Holdings, which issued a press statement on the project yesterday, did not give an indication of pricing. 'The project is expected to be launched to the public in July,' it added.

Leewk
23-06-09, 12:03
For what I understood from CBRE (sales agent) Oasis@Elias will have a soft launch this Saturday. There are only about 6 units of sea-facing 2 bedrooms, the rest are 3/4 BR. CES is trying to sell near to current Livia pricing @ S$610 ave. I'll be more keen if they are selling for < S$560 psf.

mr funny
23-06-09, 12:23
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/suite/story/0,4574,338787,00.html?

Published June 23, 2009

New projects enjoy strong weekend sales

8@ Woodleigh drew mostly S'poreans, specu-vestors due to its location

By KALPANA RASHIWALA


(SINGAPORE) There seems to be no let-up in home sales.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2009-06-23/BT_IMAGES_KRWOOD23.jpg
Selling like hotcakes: 302 of the total 330 units in the 8@ Woodleigh condo were sold between Friday and Sunday. The average price of the 99-year leasehold project near Potong Pasir MRT Station is about $780 per square foot

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2009-06-23/BT_IMAGES_KRWOOD23-H3W.jpg
The Gale: A Facebook page for Tripartite Developers' project will be launched to help market it. It is expected to be launched to the public in July

Frasers Centrepoint is said to have sold 302 of the total 330 units in its 8@Woodleigh condo since Friday. The average price of the 99-year leasehold project near Potong Pasir MRT Station is about $780 per square foot. Buyers who opt for an interest absorption scheme (IAS) offered by the developer have to pay 3 per cent more.

The 15-storey development comprises five blocks. About 40 per cent of the units are studios, two-bedders as well as apartments with two-bedrooms plus study. The remaining 60 per cent are three- and four-bedders.

The average price of a studio unit is around $400,000 while a two-bedder typically costs between $650,000 and $670,000.

The project drew mostly Singaporean buyers. In addition to attracting those who bought units for their own occupation, the project is said to have drawn a fair bit of specu-vestors.

8@Woodleigh's location next to the future Stamford American International School gives it a strong investment appeal.

'Some people bought with a view to leasing the units to expat families (for the bigger units) or to the single teachers at the school (for studios and two-bedders),' a market watcher said.

The project is being marketed by DTZ and ERA.

Over at Devonshire Road, Allgreen Properties sold 130 units last week at One Devonshire, a 36-storey freehold condo with a total 152 units.

The average price of the units sold is understood to be $1,800 psf, assuming a normal progress payment scheme.

Allgreen is charging buyers a 2 per cent price premium for IAS. For those who opt for the deferred payment scheme, the price premium is 3 per cent.

Around 65 per cent of the 130 buyers have opted for normal progress payment. Knight Frank is marketing the development.

Chip Eng Seng group's Oasis @ Elias condo is expected to be released soon, as early as this week. The 99-year project has a total 388 units and should give some competition to City Developments' Livia condo nearby.

Over at Flora Road, in the Upper Changi area, Tripartite Developers is getting ready to launch its freehold condo, The Gale. A Facebook page for the project will be launched to help market the project.

The Gale comprises 329 units in nine blocks. The eight-storey project has a range of unit sizes, from one-bedders to four-bedroom apartments with a roof terrace.

Buyers will have the option of signing up for IAS. Buyers and current owners of a Tripartite property will enjoy a loyalty bonus (a 0.5 per cent price discount) if they buy a unit at The Gale, and a referral fee (0.5 per cent of purchase price) if they get a friend or family member to buy a unit in the condo.

Tripartite is a joint venture involving Hong Leong Holdings, City Developments and TID Pte Ltd. Hong Leong Holdings, which issued a press statement on the project yesterday, did not give an indication of pricing. 'The project is expected to be launched to the public in July,' it added.

azeoprop
23-06-09, 20:54
How to register for the preview for this project? :confused: The 2 bedroom sea view units sounds interesting, if the price is right that is.

Kuchi
25-06-09, 16:59
You can call CBRE agent to register, the agent told me the seaview unit might go as high as 700psf!!! Wondering who will buy that, this is not East Coast area where the seaview is really unblock!!:doh:
The preview will start from this Sat 3pm onward.

bargain hunter
26-06-09, 00:02
so is there going to be a queue forming here as well? already had queues at Vista Residence and one building up at Residences @ Kiliney, so how about one more starting in Pasir Ris? :p

vinc1281
26-06-09, 01:45
You can call CBRE agent to register, the agent told me the seaview unit might go as high as 700psf!!! Wondering who will buy that, this is not East Coast area where the seaview is really unblock!!:doh:
The preview will start from this Sat 3pm onward.

Preview starts at 3pm?? I was told it will start at 1pm.

anyway I booked an appt at 5pm. see if any forumers will like to meet up at the showroom and share experiences and pointers. :D

bargain hunter
26-06-09, 08:45
wah, if there is going to be a queue like recent launches of 8@woodleigh, vista residence, you are not going to get a unit you like at 5pm (they would probably bring forward the launch to the morning) and if you are there just to view, it would still be too crowded. :)



Preview starts at 3pm?? I was told it will start at 1pm.

anyway I booked an appt at 5pm. see if any forumers will like to meet up at the showroom and share experiences and pointers. :D

azeoprop
26-06-09, 10:03
I don't think this will be that crowded...unless it is priced below 580psf. Location is quite ulu.

ClemenceLY
26-06-09, 21:28
Drove past the site about 5:30pm today, saw quite some people inside the showroom. There is also a tentage setup beside the showroom with lots of chairs, probably expecting a big crowd or a long queue...

wonder
27-06-09, 17:30
Anyone went for the preview and what is the psf ?

azeoprop
27-06-09, 20:35
Just went for the preview today. The response is lukewarm, no queues but seats are full. The cheapest of the cheapest 2 bedroom unit is 02-08, face HDB block, cost 614k by IAS, normal payment is 3% less. Floor area is 980sqft. Only block 60, 62 and 66 are released.

03-12 cost 624k IAS 980sqft
04-06 cost 620k IAS 947sqft
04-08 cost 622k IAS 980sqft

wonder
28-06-09, 16:08
So response not as good as 8@woodledge huh ?

A lot looking and not buying

Kenshinto80
28-06-09, 16:19
So response not as good as 8@woodledge huh ?

A lot looking and not buying

Do you guys think this project really got seaview? May go down Showroom to have a look. Just that when saw the external facade design on website got thrown off...not very beautiful.

cheerful
28-06-09, 16:44
So response not as good as 8@woodledge huh ?

A lot looking and not buying

Should be the case bah, location not in the same league for comparison rt .... anyway, if LH99 not much difference vs. the EC Whitewater ...:)

kal
28-06-09, 21:37
Do you guys think this project really got seaview? May go down Showroom to have a look. Just that when saw the external facade design on website got thrown off...not very beautiful.

The top 2 floor shld hv some seaview lor. But Pulau Ubin view is more clear than the sea..

MrsTan
28-06-09, 23:54
Just went over for the preview on saturday. Cheapest for a 3br is 750k onwards and is 3rd floor, which is approx $660psf. The planter and balcony will take up alot of space in the living room. As for the master bedroom, they do not have bathtub unless you are buying 4br. There are many people around but I don't see any queues. I have seen both Livia and Oasis project, personally, I would think Livia is better, but just that there are too many units over there.

As for oasis, the estimated maintenance fee for a 2br is around $180, 3br&4br is $210 which I think the price is quite reasonable.

bargain hunter
29-06-09, 10:04
So I guess market is pretty selective? Snapping up 8@Woodleigh but not Oasis hee.


Just went over for the preview on saturday. Cheapest for a 3br is 750k onwards and is 3rd floor, which is approx $660psf. The planter and balcony will take up alot of space in the living room. As for the master bedroom, they do not have bathtub unless you are buying 4br. There are many people around but I don't see any queues. I have seen both Livia and Oasis project, personally, I would think Livia is better, but just that there are too many units over there.

As for oasis, the estimated maintenance fee for a 2br is around $180, 3br&4br is $210 which I think the price is quite reasonable.

gohsoonk
30-06-09, 09:31
Just went for the preview today. The response is lukewarm, no queues but seats are full. The cheapest of the cheapest 2 bedroom unit is 02-08, face HDB block, cost 614k by IAS, normal payment is 3% less. Floor area is 980sqft. Only block 60, 62 and 66 are released.

03-12 cost 624k IAS 980sqft
04-06 cost 620k IAS 947sqft
04-08 cost 622k IAS 980sqft

Drove past on Sat and I think it was very crowded. Avoided the showroom on Sat. Went down on Sunday (not that crowded).

I dun like the furnishing. Condo features are also quite standard (no unique features). Only thing that the agent kept emphasizing on was the seaview which were limited to the high floors selected units. The master bedroom does not have a balcony (subjective) and the living room balcony is huge (reminds me of Kovan Residences).

In terms of quantum, it is cheap especially for the 2 bedders. At the current market momentum, this is probably a cheap find for those who aspire condo living.

BTW, I heard from the agent that they are closing the showroom today and will reopen over the weekend with a higher price. (new to this agent and not sure if she is playing typical sales tactic).

mr funny
01-07-09, 17:04
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/suite/story/0,4574,339793-1246391940,00.html?

Published June 30, 2009

Robust private home sales in June

But it is too early to call a recovery, cautions OCBC Investment Research

By UMA SHANKARI


(SINGAPORE) Private home sales stayed strong in June.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2009-06-30/BT_IMAGES_UMPROP30.jpg
Freehold property: Artist's impression of Vista Residences; Far East Organization's Mr Chia says that buyers are mainly Singaporeans and there is strong interest from young professional managers, teachers and civil servants

Far East Organization sold 74 apartments in its 280-unit Vista Residences at a private preview last weekend, the developer said yesterday.

And Frasers Centrepoint said that it has fully sold two of its projects - the 330-unit 8@Woodleigh and the 110-unit Woodsville 28. Homes at 8@Woodleigh went for an average of $790 per sq ft (psf), while units at Woodsville 28 sold for an average price of $775 psf.

8@Woodleigh was launched just two weeks ago. Woodsville 28 was launched in July 2008 but most units languished until the buying momentum returned to the market this year.

Over at the freehold Vista Residences - on Jalan Dusun and Jalan Datoh at the corner of Thomson Road - prices start at $960 psf. The project will be officially launched tomorrow, but Far East released 88 units at a weekend preview, and 85 per cent of them were snapped up.

'Buyers are mainly Singaporeans and there is particularly strong interest from young professional managers, teachers and civil servants who are buying to occupy,' said Chia Boon Kuah, chief operating officer of Far East Organization's property arm.

While units at Vista Residences have sold for more than homes in the nearby The Arte - a City Developments project where units were launched at an average price of $880 psf in March - the difference in pricing is due to the difference in unit sizes and floor plans, analysts say.

'Vista Residences offer smaller size units that command higher psf pricing and also smaller balcony space than The Arte,' OCBC Investment Research analyst Foo Sze Ming said in a note yesterday. 'As such, we caution that the strong buying momentum at higher psf pricing for the new launch should not be viewed as a new uptrend for property prices.'

Mr Foo said that it is too early to call a recovery in the property market. 'We remain unconvinced by the recent 'recovery' in the physical property market,' he said.

'We believe buying strength over the recent weeks could have been driven by the spillover effect from earlier pent-up demand that drew cash rich local investors back into the market. In our view, potential catalysts for price increase will have to come from an inflow of foreign funds into the property market, as well as a pick up in employment opportunities.'

Foreign funds were the driving force of the property boom in 2007, but have not come back to the market in a big way.

Looking ahead, more mass-market and mid-market launches are expected in the coming weeks, including Oasis@Elias, a 388-unit, 99-year leasehold project at Elias Road by Chip Eng Seng, and The Gale, a 329-unit, freehold project at Flora Road by Tripartite Developers.

ahlahdin
02-07-09, 21:34
CEL Development launching remaining units of Oasis @ Elias

02 July 2009 1958 hrs (SST) 1158 hrs (GMT)

SINGAPORE: CEL Development is launching the remaining units of its Oasis @ Elias condominium at Pasir Ris on Saturday.

Half of the 142 units previewed have been sold, at an average price of S$670 per square foot.

The units that have been sold included six of nine penthouses in the property.

Marketing agent CB Richard Ellis said HDB upgraders made up 80 per cent of the buyers.

The strong take-up rate reflects the current popularity of mass market private property among homebuyers.

The recently launched 8 @ Woodleigh condominium at Potong Pasir was fully sold within two weeks, while Vista Residences in Balestier has also seen a strong take-up rate for the units launched so far.

Oasis @ Elias is a 99-year leasehold property, and comprises six blocks of two to five-room apartments.

- CNA/yt

Prissy
07-07-09, 14:57
I have seen both Livia and Oasis project, personally, I would think Livia is better, but just that there are too many units over there.

here's a blogsite that offers comparisons. although oasis has less units, furnishing at livia is a notch higher.

personally, i think livia will be a good buy. if u compare livia with caspian, both have almost same num of units but livia has twice the land size! so can imagine how crowded caspian's going to be. but yet its so popular.

Prissy
07-07-09, 14:58
here's a blogsite that offers comparisons. although oasis has less units, furnishing at livia is a notch higher.



oops here it is:
http://singaporepropertyreviews.blogspot.com/

kasper
09-07-09, 09:27
Anyone know how many units sold in Oasis@elias?

azeoprop
20-07-09, 08:12
Any 2 bedroom starbuys at Oasis? :cool:

azeoprop
29-07-09, 18:38
Any 2 bedroom starbuys at Oasis? :cool:

Still no lelong sales for this project? :D

spec008
03-08-09, 11:49
Anyone know how many units sold in Oasis@elias?

went there yesterday salesman told me 1/3 sold....not impressed by the place...6 blocks on that small piece of land....:scared-1:

kasper
03-08-09, 13:48
went there yesterday salesman told me 1/3 sold....not impressed by the place...6 blocks on that small piece of land....:scared-1:

that is quite slow moving in the current market condition..

oapsg
07-08-09, 22:12
Was considering stack 23 mid flr $788K is it ex??

kEN9170
07-08-09, 22:55
You may like to read review on Oasis.

http://www.h88.com.sg/article/Condo+Review%3A+Oasis+at+Elias/



Was considering stack 23 mid flr $788K is it ex??

oapsg
08-08-09, 13:23
today's ad, $576psf..

azeoprop
23-09-09, 18:43
It seems that they are going to do a re-launch soon...hrmmm. :beats-me-man:

jitkiat
23-09-09, 18:51
Problem of oversupply & competition from Livia / resale from Ris Grandeur which is freehold. Too far from future 4th university and DTL3. Again, if Pasir Ris HDB 5room go up another 20% ... probably easy to sell.

kasper
13-10-09, 14:42
Anyone knows the new pricing after the re-launch?

azeoprop
31-10-09, 20:12
Streetsine shows one record in sept #12-06 980sqft 577psf 565k.
Quite a good price for high floor and partial pool facing. :)

Maybe 3 bedders 550psf haa haa. :rolleyes:

kasper
31-10-09, 23:38
just been to the showroom recently..cheapest 620k++..dun have any below 600k...is this a subsale or what??

Reporter
16-12-09, 01:14
Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of November 2009

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Oasis @ Elias .... OCR ........ 180 .......................... 8 ................................ 704 ............... 667 ............... 620
O@E is lightly more than 46% sold.

Reporter
16-01-10, 17:23
Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of December 2009

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Oasis @ Elias ... OCR ....... 183 ....................... 3 ........................... 691 .............. 669 ............. 611
3 units sold in December 2009.

kasper
24-01-10, 14:14
3 units sold in December 2009.

When is the re-launch? Keen to know the new pricing...

Leewk
28-03-10, 15:18
RELAUNCH 2nd April 2010.

Checked with agent on the 2-bedroom @ 980sqft quoted S$700k to S$780k translated to about S$714-S$796 psf. Probably better facing units.

azeoprop
28-03-10, 15:32
So expensive!:doh: Last time I checked high floor stack 08 2 bedder only around 650k.

Condorich
28-03-10, 19:29
So expensive!:doh: Last time I checked high floor stack 08 2 bedder only around 650k.

Last time coe less than $10k leh... now more than $40k...

Last time ...

kasper
29-03-10, 16:18
RELAUNCH 2nd April 2010.

Checked with agent on the 2-bedroom @ 980sqft quoted S$700k to S$780k translated to about S$714-S$796 psf. Probably better facing units.

Which are the 2 br better facing units left?? Not much I think...

marktkt22
03-04-10, 23:38
it be good to look at elias mall, before buying.
there really nothing much in that mall except clinic and macd...
seem like a small plot of land to build with 5 blocks..:) and nearby elias mall is just so so

azeoprop
11-04-10, 13:06
Saw a full page advertisment today, units from 625psf. :beats-me-man:

kasper
12-04-10, 13:33
Saw a full page advertisment today, units from 625psf. :beats-me-man:

That is Star buy from 625psf..was quoted 899k less 8% for #13-16 which is a pool facing 2br unit..price really gone up quite a lot...

azeoprop
12-04-10, 17:35
That is Star buy from 625psf..was quoted 899k less 8% for #13-16 which is a pool facing 2br unit..price really gone up quite a lot...

So expensive?! :eek:

kasper
14-04-10, 10:16
So expensive?! :eek:

Yes, I agree. Good deal for those whom had bought it last year during the first launch...

jitkiat
14-04-10, 10:24
That is Star buy from 625psf..was quoted 899k less 8% for #13-16 which is a pool facing 2br unit..price really gone up quite a lot...

68 Elias Road #12-16
99 Yrs From 17/03/2008
$691
980
$677k
08 Jan 10


How is it possible, from less than 700k to more than 800k? #12-16 only 691psf in January.

kasper
14-04-10, 13:07
68 Elias Road #12-16
99 Yrs From 17/03/2008
$691
980
$677k
08 Jan 10


How is it possible, from less than 700k to more than 800k? #12-16 only 691psf in January.

Good question...maybe you should ask the developer CES instead..the agent claimed that this is the only new project left in D18...that why the price gone up...

azeoprop
14-04-10, 18:17
Good question...maybe you should ask the developer CES instead..the agent claimed that this is the only new project left in D18...that why the price gone up...

I thought there will be another one coming up beside Livia? :beats-me-man:

gohsoonk
16-04-10, 13:48
I thought there will be another one coming up beside Livia? :beats-me-man:

Yes. That is correct. Should be later this year.

marktkt22
16-04-10, 23:56
anyone think this development look cramped ...the plot of land is actually quite small.
btw, how is the sale so far ..?
The only next launch is probably Livia 2 ...really no more projt in D17/18 for next 6-9 months at least, i think:)

Reporter
21-04-10, 10:18
Eastvale, the 11-year-old EC in District 18 Pasir Ris has a nëw hïgh of $701 psf!
I wonder why would anyone say a new and "normal" condo at $800 psf expensive?


Eastvale
Address ............................ psf ............ Area .......... Price .......... Contract Date
31 Pasir Ris Drive 3 #08-07 .... $701 psf .... 1,098 sqft .... $770,000 .... 15 Mar 10

marktkt22
25-04-10, 21:49
Eastvale, the 11-year-old EC in District 18 Pasir Ris has a nëw hïgh of $701 psf!
I wonder why would anyone say a new and "normal" condo at $800 psf expensive?


Eastvale
Address ............................ psf ............ Area .......... Price .......... Contract Date
31 Pasir Ris Drive 3 #08-07 .... $701 psf .... 1,098 sqft .... $770,000 .... 15 Mar 10

Thx, good job , reporter. your latest data in many thread give useful clue to ppty price trend..which is up up ...up..

ultrakenzo
28-04-10, 09:49
I spoke to my agent friend who is in developer's sales team.

He told me that the project is more than 60% sold. Only limited number of 2 bedders left.

Not too many 4 bedders and more 3 bedders. Still have 3 penthouse units.

I was told that the discount from the developer will be getting less. (in anticipation of the price increase of the projects in the vicinity.

Those who bought in the earlier launch must have been laughing all the way to the bank.:)

kasper
12-05-10, 10:21
I spoke to my agent friend who is in developer's sales team.

He told me that the project is more than 60% sold. Only limited number of 2 bedders left.

Not too many 4 bedders and more 3 bedders. Still have 3 penthouse units.

I was told that the discount from the developer will be getting less. (in anticipation of the price increase of the projects in the vicinity.

Those who bought in the earlier launch must have been laughing all the way to the bank.:)

I agree..latest transaction lodged...pool facing unit..

70 Elias Road
#08-19
$757psf
1216sqft
$921k

devilplate
12-05-10, 10:25
now 7xxpsf for suburban condo seems very reasonable.

mabe it takes a reporter to write smthing on this project: one of the cheapest new project in SG!

Livia was sold out shortly after a reporter wrote smthing like this. :D :D :D

kasper
14-05-10, 15:37
now 7xxpsf for suburban condo seems very reasonable.

mabe it takes a reporter to write smthing on this project: one of the cheapest new project in SG!

Livia was sold out shortly after a reporter wrote smthing like this. :D :D :D

I think you are right...

Lastest transaction
68 Elias Road
#08-14
$765psf
1216sqft
$931k

kasper
14-05-10, 15:45
I think you are right...

Lastest transaction
68 Elias Road
#08-14
$765psf
1216sqft
$931k

latest transaction in nearby Livia hit 820psf...

Reporter
17-05-10, 14:22
Oasis @ Elias in District 18 has a nëw hïgh of $845 psf!


Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of April 2010
Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Oasis @ Elias ... OCR ....... 246 ...................... 47 ......................... 845 .............. 694 ............. 625

kasper
01-06-10, 14:25
latest transaction in nearby Livia hit 820psf...

Lastest transaction
70 Elias Road
#12-18
$800psf
1410sqft
$1128k

Micky
02-06-10, 23:56
Careful people

1) Its not true that Oasis is the last project left in D18. Read this ->> http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_529651.html
Out of the 31 sites, 3 sites are in Pasir Ris.
http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/pdf/20100521/Appendix%202.pdf

2) One of Oasis' selling point was that there's seaview. One of the sites released for development (Intersection of Elias Road and Pasir Ris Drive 3), is smack in the line of sight between Oasis and the sea. High possibility that before immediately after Oasis TOP, the view will be blocked by the new development. In fact, once people see the piling starts for the new development, Oasis' seaview units will not command such high prices anymore.

I am not vested in Oasis... and I do not intend to get a unit.
I stay in Pasir Ris, so know the area quite well. Just want to offer a word of warning because I think the prices are ridiculously high.....

devilplate
03-06-10, 00:06
Careful people

1) Its not true that Oasis is the last project left in D18. Read this ->> http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_529651.html
Out of the 31 sites, 3 sites are in Pasir Ris.
http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/pdf/20100521/Appendix%202.pdf

2) One of Oasis' selling point was that there's seaview. One of the sites released for development (Intersection of Elias Road and Pasir Ris Drive 3), is smack in the line of sight between Oasis and the sea. High possibility that before immediately after Oasis TOP, the view will be blocked by the new development. In fact, once people see the piling starts for the new development, Oasis' seaview units will not command such high prices anymore.

I am not vested in Oasis... and I do not intend to get a unit.
I stay in Pasir Ris, so know the area quite well. Just want to offer a word of warning because I think the prices are ridiculously high.....

tat plot of land is under reserved list...aso duno whether will get triggered anot. anyway, oasis@elias i wud say is one of the cheapest projects in whole SG now...can u name any new project tat is cheaper? only mabe Mi Casa pricing is about the same or even more.

with treehse almost fully sold at 8xxpsf...oasis lower flr still selling 7xxpsf...y u tink it is exp?

Micky
03-06-10, 00:32
tat plot of land is under reserved list...aso duno whether will get triggered anot. anyway, oasis@elias i wud say is one of the cheapest projects in whole SG now...can u name any new project tat is cheaper? only mabe Mi Casa pricing is about the same or even more.

with treehse almost fully sold at 8xxpsf...oasis lower flr still selling 7xxpsf...y u tink it is exp?

Err... cos the previous post stated $845 psf.......

Anyway, my views only.
For most people, buy property is quite a big investment. If anyone wants to take the risk and hope that it will remain on reserve list.... go ahead lor. Happy can liao.

devilplate
03-06-10, 00:57
Err... cos the previous post stated $845 psf.......

Anyway, my views only.
For most people, buy property is quite a big investment. If anyone wants to take the risk and hope that it will remain on reserve list.... go ahead lor. Happy can liao.

even no seaview...7xxpsf ... considered high meh? u just based on a 8xxpsf and deemed all 8xxpsf ar? lol

mabe u shd go around and visit some showflat b4 making such a comment.

i can tell u frankly...now those puny studios in D1 and 2 mostly ard 1mil or more. if u ask any HDB dwellers, they will say CRAZYYYYYYY:D :D :D

Reporter
03-06-10, 02:19
Careful people

1) Its not true that Oasis is the last project left in D18. Read this ->> http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_529651.html
Out of the 31 sites, 3 sites are in Pasir Ris.
http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/pdf/20100521/Appendix%202.pdf

2) One of Oasis' selling point was that there's seaview. One of the sites released for development (Intersection of Elias Road and Pasir Ris Drive 3), is smack in the line of sight between Oasis and the sea. High possibility that before immediately after Oasis TOP, the view will be blocked by the new development. In fact, once people see the piling starts for the new development, Oasis' seaview units will not command such high prices anymore.

I am not vested in Oasis... and I do not intend to get a unit.
I stay in Pasir Ris, so know the area quite well. Just want to offer a word of warning because I think the prices are ridiculously high.....
Blocking Oasis @ Elias view is the 4/5-storey-high Elias Mall. This to-be-tendered-out reserved plot is at the T-junction of the other Elias Road - not the one that Oasis @ Elias is located.

F.Y.I., I am not vested in District 18.

devilplate
03-06-10, 10:18
i have checked the map...the new reserved plot is directly opposite elias mall across the road. it will eventually block the seaview of oasis.

i m not vested either

teddybear
03-06-10, 11:10
Elias Road? Not sure whether those land belong previously to my friend's father & relatives? Heard that at that time (1982), the govt bought from them under procurement for national development at less than $1 psf (if my memory didn't fail me :o). Now this land going to sell for >$300 psf? Wah! Their return over 28 years is 30,000% ! :scared-1:
Just to give my self a better idea: If I have $100,000 worth of land in Elias Road in 1982, now it is worth $30,000,000 ($30m!). :jaw-dropping:
They should practise PROPERTISM & should have just built a bungalow (even if made of zinc roof) there instead of selling! :banghead:



tat plot of land is under reserved list...aso duno whether will get triggered anot. anyway, oasis@elias i wud say is one of the cheapest projects in whole SG now...can u name any new project tat is cheaper? only mabe Mi Casa pricing is about the same or even more.

with treehse almost fully sold at 8xxpsf...oasis lower flr still selling 7xxpsf...y u tink it is exp?

devilplate
03-06-10, 11:21
Elias Road? Not sure whether those land belong previously to my friend's father & relatives? Heard that at that time (1982), the govt bought from them under procurement for national development at less than $1 psf (if my memory didn't fail me :o). Now this land going to sell for >$300 psf?

u mean govt force them to sell? may not be this plot of land...it cud be those plots of land whr pasir ris park currently sits on.

this reserved land site may worth more den 400psf as it haf seaview and unblock for next 99yrs.

reserved land list all so much better den cfm list...

teddybear
03-06-10, 11:43
No, I don't know the details. Can they choose not to sell to Govt when they invoke this buying land for national development? :D


u mean govt force them to sell? may not be this plot of land...it cud be those plots of land whr pasir ris park currently sits on.

this reserved land site may worth more den 400psf as it haf seaview and unblock for next 99yrs.

reserved land list all so much better den cfm list...

kasper
04-06-10, 20:34
Careful people

1) Its not true that Oasis is the last project left in D18. Read this ->> http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_529651.html
Out of the 31 sites, 3 sites are in Pasir Ris.
http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/pdf/20100521/Appendix%202.pdf

2) One of Oasis' selling point was that there's seaview. One of the sites released for development (Intersection of Elias Road and Pasir Ris Drive 3), is smack in the line of sight between Oasis and the sea. High possibility that before immediately after Oasis TOP, the view will be blocked by the new development. In fact, once people see the piling starts for the new development, Oasis' seaview units will not command such high prices anymore.

I am not vested in Oasis... and I do not intend to get a unit.
I stay in Pasir Ris, so know the area quite well. Just want to offer a word of warning because I think the prices are ridiculously high.....


This plot of land is reserved for low rise housing development..

focus
04-06-10, 21:02
They should practise PROPERTISM & should have just built a bungalow (even if made of zinc roof) there instead of selling! :banghead:

I remember living with my grandmother at Aljunied area with a large plot of land and a big zinc roof house with a "coffeeshop-cum-provision shop" extension... then govt took it away. I think alot of those old folks have experienced that. But dunno how much my grandmother got for that.

Wa.. if only my grandmother hold on to it... even after distributing to her 3 kids.. each also will get a few millions? ...

azeoprop
04-06-10, 21:53
I remember living with my grandmother at Aljunied area with a large plot of land and a big zinc roof house with a "coffeeshop-cum-provision shop" extension... then govt took it away. I think alot of those old folks have experienced that. But dunno how much my grandmother got for that.

Wa.. if only my grandmother hold on to it... even after distributing to her 3 kids.. each also will get a few millions? ...

My god-mother zinc roof house was in Lorong Ah Soo in the late 70s early 80s, when the govt took over their house, which later became part of Minton rise, and now The minton. They were given a 4 room hdb in AMK. :beats-me-man:

kasper
25-06-10, 13:23
Oasis @ Elias in District 18 has a nëw hïgh of $845 psf!


Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of April 2010
Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Oasis @ Elias ... OCR ....... 246 ...................... 47 ......................... 845 .............. 694 ............. 625

This is the unit, top floor pool facing

68 Elias Road
#17-16
$845psf
980sqft
$828k
25 May 10

rainy
25-06-10, 14:00
This is the unit, top floor pool facing

68 Elias Road
#17-16
$845psf
980sqft
$828k
25 May 10

:doh: not worth the price ... might as well buy the hdb next block ..

devilplate
25-06-10, 14:30
:doh: not worth the price ... might as well buy the hdb next block ..

rainy= proud_owner?

bargain hunter
25-06-10, 14:43
haha, no lah, just another "when condo within hdb estate, choose hdb" advocate. :)



rainy= proud_owner?

Wolverine77
15-07-10, 23:58
I bought one recently. I am totally happy with the surrounding. HDB surrounding me is not a bad thing. I liked it and only thru HDB masses can shops at Elias Mall be supported financially.

Elias Mall & CC has almost everything you need to have daily. It has a wet&Dry market bought over by Sheng Siong, a supermarket, one childcare centre, many clinics for children and adult, a few enrichment centres, hair salons, ATMS, AXS, MACDonald, Nice FOODCOURTS, Community Centre, Japanese Resturant, hardware shop, gaming shops, 2 X 7 elevens, SPA shop, bakeries, and a small grocery shop.

All these amenities are within a minute walk from O@E. I am not too sure why some forummers love to lambast this condo. It is affordable and all the fittings given as of now less the kitchen sink(SIMS) are more than good quality. All taps used are made in germany, branded HANSA. The tiles are given as Homo/parquet but i believe for such a place it is worth the price i paid. No more can you find new Private Condo at this kind of pricing close to EC. Even some 5 years EC in some even more ULU place with no MALLS nearby are selling $750K for a 3bedder.

For those WARNING the risk about O@E, i truly hope you guys dont be my neighbours coz you guys are TRULY SHORT SIGHTED. I sold my 3 yr old condo in Jurong for $1M to buy one in Pasir Ris shows what a GEM O@E is. I just love pasir ris.

Nothing can beat being near to a beach. Where in Singapore can a beachfront condo be worth $600-700 psf pricing. Please do your maths. Condo owners hardly take MRT, if we need to take MRT might as well lived in HDB. I drive to work, even my old condo near to MRT within 3 mins walk i still drive. If you take MRT, dont buy O@E. Even if you need to walk to MRT, the walk from OASIS is a nice brisk walk of 9 mins (850m) mostly sheltered all the way till the road to cross over to MRT STN. Furthermore, O@E has ferry bus service for 2 years. Maintenance fees are cheaper than all condo in the vicinity.

It is not an issue at all. I surveyed the area many times. Whether you choose Livia, R G, E G or Oasis, the choice is clear. Pasir Ris is getting more and more valuable and alot more projects are coming here. The land price will never ever be cheap again. You are likely to see the pricing at $800psf soon. There is also a new sport & recreation complex being built as of now (2011 end) and more developments are coming to Pasir Ris that is not disclose by gov. Not to forget, a DPM is MP of Pasir Ris West.

I had never lost money in properties. Oasis@Elias is definitely a great buy. Less congested, Clean Air, Less Crowded, Leisure laid back, DOWNTOWN EAST, Pasir Ris BEACH, PARKS, Gallop Stable, Schools (UWC, SUTD, JC), Pets Hotels & Farms, Fish Farmways, Changi MotoSport Hub, Changi Airport Terminals, EXPO, Giant, IKEA, MEGACOURTS and many MALLS (Whitesands, Tampines MALL, ONE, CenSQ).

I think Pasir Ris is one place that is the less crowded than anywhere else before the immigration flood gates are opened and everywhere is jammed packed with bangas and who knows where they are from?

In short, do you maths, check the area closely, survey all amenities and believe in your judgement and not some HDB dwellers who never stayed in a condo but give lots of shitty comments.

proud owner
16-07-10, 00:19
rainy= proud_owner?



hey devilpate


i just saw this ...

no lah i am not rainy ...

but i am happy to know i am not alone with that thinking


so .. have you found out what is Deviled Egg ?

Wolverine77
16-07-10, 00:26
For more pictures goto this link.

http://simplelikesimon.blogspot.com/

devilplate
16-07-10, 00:31
hey devilpate


i just saw this ...

no lah i am not rainy ...

but i am happy to know i am not alone with that thinking


so .. have you found out what is Deviled Egg ?

simi lai de...deviled egg?:beats-me-man:

i only noe ya dan, ji dan, pi dan and wang ba dan:D :D :D

proud owner
16-07-10, 00:36
simi lai de...deviled egg?:beats-me-man:

i only noe ya dan, ji dan, pi dan and wang ba dan:D :D :D

http://www.beckyhiggins.com/recipes/uploaded_images/deviled-eggs-new-1-787438.JPG

devilplate
16-07-10, 00:40
I bought one recently. I am totally happy with the surrounding. HDB surrounding me is not a bad thing. I liked it and only thru HDB masses can shops at Elias Mall be supported financially.

Elias Mall & CC has almost everything you need to have daily. It has a wet&Dry market bought over by Sheng Siong, a supermarket, one childcare centre, many clinics for children and adult, a few enrichment centres, hair salons, ATMS, AXS, MACDonald, Nice FOODCOURTS, Community Centre, Japanese Resturant, hardware shop, gaming shops, 2 X 7 elevens, SPA shop, bakeries, and a small grocery shop.

All these amenities are within a minute walk from O@E. I am not too sure why some forummers love to lambast this condo. It is affordable and all the fittings given as of now less the kitchen sink(SIMS) are more than good quality. All taps used are made in germany, branded HANSA. The tiles are given as Homo/parquet but i believe for such a place it is worth the price i paid. No more can you find new Private Condo at this kind of pricing close to EC. Even some 5 years EC in some even more ULU place with no MALLS nearby are selling $750K for a 3bedder.

For those WARNING the risk about O@E, i truly hope you guys dont be my neighbours coz you guys are TRULY SHORT SIGHTED. I sold my 3 yr old condo in Jurong for $1M to buy one in Pasir Ris shows what a GEM O@E is. I just love pasir ris.

Nothing can beat being near to a beach. Where in Singapore can a beachfront condo be worth $600-700 psf pricing. Please do your maths. Condo owners hardly take MRT, if we need to take MRT might as well lived in HDB. I drive to work, even my old condo near to MRT within 3 mins walk i still drive. If you take MRT, dont buy O@E. Even if you need to walk to MRT, the walk from OASIS is a nice brisk walk of 9 mins (850m) mostly sheltered all the way till the road to cross over to MRT STN. Furthermore, O@E has ferry bus service for 2 years. Maintenance fees are cheaper than all condo in the vicinity.

It is not an issue at all. I surveyed the area many times. Whether you choose Livia, R G, E G or Oasis, the choice is clear. Pasir Ris is getting more and more valuable and alot more projects are coming here. The land price will never ever be cheap again. You are likely to see the pricing at $800psf soon. There is also a new sport & recreation complex being built as of now (2011 end) and more developments are coming to Pasir Ris that is not disclose by gov. Not to forget, a DPM is MP of Pasir Ris West.

I had never lost money in properties. Oasis@Elias is definitely a great buy. Less congested, Clean Air, Less Crowded, Leisure laid back, DOWNTOWN EAST, Pasir Ris BEACH, PARKS, Gallop Stable, Schools (UWC, SUTD, JC), Pets Hotels & Farms, Fish Farmways, Changi MotoSport Hub, Changi Airport Terminals, EXPO, Giant, IKEA, MEGACOURTS and many MALLS (Whitesands, Tampines MALL, ONE, CenSQ).

I think Pasir Ris is one place that is the less crowded than anywhere else before the immigration flood gates are opened and everywhere is jammed packed with bangas and who knows where they are from?

In short, do you maths, check the area closely, survey all amenities and believe in your judgement and not some HDB dwellers who never stayed in a condo but give lots of shitty comments.

relax...WC to pasir ris...i am also staying there currently.

i mentioned b4 tat OE is the next cheapest condo in WHOLE SG after Livia sell out. apparently, not a steal anymore as developer oredi up the prices...so congrats to 1st phase buyers.:cheers1:

but hor, i wud say OE not really near to the beach la...i doubt ppl stay in OE will visit the beach often in future...not unless u jog there lor. agree tat pasir ris remains much less congested currently if u were to compare with tampines and even simei.

i dun agree condo no nid to be near MRT. i wud say only those prime condo may not need MRT as they can well afford taxis/car. 1 family usually have only 1 car, so children/wifey/parents will benefit from MRT lor.

no nid to brag about ur success lah:doh: ...always a higher mountain out there yay:D

but hor, i feel tat pasir ris got too many condos...especially u noe tat there will be another 3-4 projects around Livia....on the other hand, tampines got not much condos...duno y

devilplate
16-07-10, 00:42
http://www.beckyhiggins.com/recipes/uploaded_images/deviled-eggs-new-1-787438.JPG

looks yummy...but nvr see b4...:o

u had it at NY?

Wolverine77
16-07-10, 20:37
relax...WC to pasir ris...i am also staying there currently.

i mentioned b4 tat OE is the next cheapest condo in WHOLE SG after Livia sell out. apparently, not a steal anymore as developer oredi up the prices...so congrats to 1st phase buyers.:cheers1:

but hor, i wud say OE not really near to the beach la...i doubt ppl stay in OE will visit the beach often in future...not unless u jog there lor. agree tat pasir ris remains much less congested currently if u were to compare with tampines and even simei.

i dun agree condo no nid to be near MRT. i wud say only those prime condo may not need MRT as they can well afford taxis/car. 1 family usually have only 1 car, so children/wifey/parents will benefit from MRT lor.

no nid to brag about ur success lah:doh: ...always a higher mountain out there yay:D

but hor, i feel tat pasir ris got too many condos...especially u noe tat there will be another 3-4 projects around Livia....on the other hand, tampines got not much condos...duno y
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I got it for $651 psf. I think it is cheap. The similar condo built by CES Land/Lehman Bros is Parc Condo at clementi. A freehold 659 units, selling at $1100 psf subsale. Very close to AYE and West Coast Highway and a noisy Clementi stadium. Yet sell like hot cakes, that area is all round HDB and even more condos around the area. Sometimes, it is hard to fathom buyer's thoughts. Noise, congestion, and undesirable elements still got ppl buy. As long as, a home is what you make it out to be, no matter how it looks like it if it feels like home to you and your family, then so be it. I dont like to critic other people's choices but i felt that there are some standards that has to be there, what i think a warm and quiet home should always be.

Wolverine77
16-07-10, 20:45
http://simplelikesimon.blogspot.com <<< For up to date construction of O@E
You can add yourself to my blog.

wolverine77 Block 72 #06-XX

proud owner
16-07-10, 20:50
looks yummy...but nvr see b4...:o

u had it at NY?

pretty common here

hard boiled egg .. half it .. remove the york .. mix with mayo .. put it back .. sprinker some mexican chilli pepper ..

damn nice

marktkt22
20-07-10, 21:59
mum in law is in pasi ris...was in pasir ris every weekend. , elias mall (oasis at elias) not as good as west plaza (beside white water) ...in term of shops and amenities. go check it ouy and u will see.....there another mall, Loyang point...

white sand mall is the most "well equipped" as it is next to mrt.


buy Livia is mainly for near to mrt......as well as belief in CDL reputation...
Ris grandeur is nearby yet FH ...althought the yellowish block is kinda ugly. It actually a good buy as it FH.

oasis is a good buy in the sense that it is probably the lowest cost condo around currently...in D17/18...but it is nested with hdb, take note.:)

Wolverine77
21-07-10, 00:10
I have been to West Plaza once. Toured the area and bought something from NTUC. I would say that both malls are about the same in the offerings but Elias mall is ahead because it had a CC(with many kids enrichment centres) and a future SS Wet Market IMHO. Still walking to West Plaza from O@E is 600m only quite near.

Whitewater is an FEO EC project, something i rather give it a miss until their quality is no longer a problem. Capitaland Ris Grandeur is a good buy if you just want a FH. I cant live that long anyway, FH or 99 to me not really a problem. Location for Ris Grandeur is not better than Livia and O@E, it is too near to a busy junction and TPE expressway and also a canal and too near a Petrol Kisok and JC.

Livia unit layout not good as planters are really useless but the fittings are better. The site is big and lots of amenities which having stayed in big mass market condo will know maintenance of such delicate facilities will end up in a bad state quickly due to big no. of units. higher wear and tear. High condo fees and 724 units is too many. CDL is a great brand but the selling price now is too X. I miss the early boat and do not wish to pay $980k for a 3bedder low floors facing HDBs. Livia is nearer to MRT, but still a good 650m walk vs 900m walk O@E. Haha. The nearer to PsRs MRT will be those HDBs. Neither condos.

Still Pasir Ris is a great place be it condo or HDB. I think the price here is still cheaper than many other places in Singapore. Maybe Elias area might get an underground MRT stn in the future if the concept plan 2011 is out. Who knows? All the HDB and condos will get a instant price boost. Either a DTL3 or a "North Shore Line" might pass to Changi via Pasir Ris my wild guess. If it happens like kenna TOTO for everyone who stay near elias rd.

marktkt22
21-07-10, 22:58
I have been to West Plaza once. Toured the area and bought something from NTUC. I would say that both malls are about the same in the offerings but Elias mall is ahead because it had a CC(with many kids enrichment centres) and a future SS Wet Market IMHO. Still walking to West Plaza from O@E is 600m only quite near.

Whitewater is an FEO EC project, something i rather give it a miss until their quality is no longer a problem. Capitaland Ris Grandeur is a good buy if you just want a FH. I cant live that long anyway, FH or 99 to me not really a problem. Location for Ris Grandeur is not better than Livia and O@E, it is too near to a busy junction and TPE expressway and also a canal and too near a Petrol Kisok and JC.

Livia unit layout not good as planters are really useless but the fittings are better. The site is big and lots of amenities which having stayed in big mass market condo will know maintenance of such delicate facilities will end up in a bad state quickly due to big no. of units. higher wear and tear. High condo fees and 724 units is too many. CDL is a great brand but the selling price now is too X. I miss the early boat and do not wish to pay $980k for a 3bedder low floors facing HDBs. Livia is nearer to MRT, but still a good 650m walk vs 900m walk O@E. Haha. The nearer to PsRs MRT will be those HDBs. Neither condos.

Still Pasir Ris is a great place be it condo or HDB. I think the price here is still cheaper than many other places in Singapore. Maybe Elias area might get an underground MRT stn in the future if the concept plan 2011 is out. Who knows? All the HDB and condos will get a instant price boost. Either a DTL3 or a "North Shore Line" might pass to Changi via Pasir Ris my wild guess. If it happens like kenna TOTO for everyone who stay near elias rd.

wow...u done your homework very well.
kudos and congrats, u have researched in depth indeed before committing. impressive...:cheers6:

devilplate
21-07-10, 23:52
wow...u done your homework very well.
kudos and congrats, u have researched in depth indeed before committing. impressive...:cheers6:

yes...always good to do own research/groundwork/legwork and judge urself instead of hearsay....buy ppty cannot be lazy one:D

azeoprop
22-07-10, 01:17
I think the AXS machine lucky draw grand prize is a unit in oasis@elias. :)

2824
22-07-10, 08:58
Yes it is, any idea which unit and what bedder is the prize?


I think the AXS machine lucky draw grand prize is a unit in oasis@elias. :)

cashrich
22-07-10, 09:08
Yes it is, any idea which unit and what bedder is the prize?

the smallest u can find lah.. what to expect?

Maybe biggest units from the left over units also.

Cheap and good is the way to do it.

cashrich
22-07-10, 09:15
wow...u done your homework very well.
kudos and congrats, u have researched in depth indeed before committing. impressive...:cheers6:

Agree....

Basically... it takes a educated bet to guess the MRT lines.
First, guess the start and end point of the new line. Start at Changi, End at Sembawang? Then plot some lines from point A to point B. The line is not a straight line but it has to hug the populated are, next look at the terrain and the bigger roads, that's where they will likely be "under". Finally, give them some distance apart between the "guessed" stations. Look at ready built and those planned to be built in the near term.

Not perfect but its logical and with high chance of being correct. You look at the BUS Map... the MRT line will take some traffic away from the BUSES. Hot Spots will be where new stations will be placed.

Good Luck.

Wolverine77
22-07-10, 23:36
I fully agreed with Cashrich. Draw a logical line that meets a north station to changi stn. sure to cut thru somewhere in pasir ris.

0412
02-08-10, 00:25
the smallest u can find lah.. what to expect?

Maybe biggest units from the left over units also.

Cheap and good is the way to do it.

Any idea with so many condo in the market why Oasis Elias is the top prize???!!! :scared-5:

Wolverine77
02-08-10, 00:56
how I wish I win one. still oasis is affordable enough for many above middle class family. whether top prize or not? If I can win one is like a toto win.

0412
02-08-10, 08:24
how I wish I win one. still oasis is affordable enough for many above middle class family. whether top prize or not? If I can win one is like a toto win.


Ya loh..for your weekend stay also not bad :spliff:

Btw, anyone know when will be the grand draw???

cashrich
02-08-10, 08:27
Any idea with so many condo in the market why Oasis Elias is the top prize???!!! :scared-5:

that is a very stupid question to ask.... and the stupid answer is

"decision makers decide to choose there lah".

So many chicken rice stall in Singapore.. why eat at Pasir Ris? Hahah because the one paying the money decides to eat there.. Get it?

0412
02-08-10, 09:32
that is a very stupid question to ask.... and the stupid answer is

"decision makers decide to choose there lah".

So many chicken rice stall in Singapore.. why eat at Pasir Ris? Hahah because the one paying the money decides to eat there.. Get it?

Stupid question ?
Then one must be "clever" to answer a stupid Q

Mabel
05-08-10, 13:52
Drove past the other day. This Condo is coming up fast! Is it true it takes only 1 week to build one storey and another 2 weeks to do the plastering, fittings and furnishing? When is this going to TOP, year-end or before CNY?

kasper
06-08-10, 16:34
Drove past the other day. This Condo is coming up fast! Is it true it takes only 1 week to build one storey and another 2 weeks to do the plastering, fittings and furnishing? When is this going to TOP, year-end or before CNY?

Expected TOP is Dec 2012 but at the rate that CEL is going, I think likely TOP in 2011..so that CEL can collect the balance payment faster..:P

Komo
06-08-10, 21:27
It seems that developers are rushing nowadays. Perhaps too many projects on hand. Qualities will probably be compromised.

0412
06-08-10, 23:14
It seems that developers are rushing nowadays. Perhaps too many projects on hand. Qualities will probably be compromised.

there will always be inspections to make sure standards are there ...:p

Wolverine77
07-08-10, 01:13
Quality should not be a problem, CEL builts really fast, Parc Condo 645 units are up in 2.5 years, Duxton Heights(1250units) is around 4.5 years? Oasis is a small project should be even faster. My guess is 2 years from Jun 2009.

Wolverine77
07-08-10, 01:17
The built up is very quick. I had tracked it and calculated to be around 1 month 3 floors up without brick walls yet just the exterior support structures. One unit even had a balcony installed with grilles to trial it.

Wolverine77
07-08-10, 01:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amhGaq741Y8

azeoprop
18-08-10, 19:00
Hopefully I can win the AXS lucky draw hee hee... :p

devilplate
18-08-10, 19:02
rec sms tat developer gona up the prices soon

rainy
19-08-10, 12:29
rec sms tat developer gona up the prices soon

:) what is the average selling price now ?

plan
19-08-10, 15:00
:) what is the average selling price now ?

Recent transactions...


60 Elias Road #11-04
99 Yrs From 17/03/2008
$668 psf
1206 sqft
$805k
27 Jul 10
72 Elias Road #06-24
99 Yrs From 17/03/2008
$651 psf
1270 sqft
$827k
15 Jul 10
60 Elias Road #10-01
99 Yrs From 17/03/2008
$686 psf
1302 sqft
$894k
12 Jul 10
72 Elias Road #09-21
99 Yrs From 17/03/2008
$739 psf
1281 sqft
$946k
02 Jul 10

orange
19-08-10, 15:12
Really siao.... This will all end in tears someday

sleek
19-08-10, 15:24
Tears of joy, since DBSS & EC prices will be sold at record prices soon? :p


Really siao.... This will all end in tears someday

sleek
19-08-10, 16:01
From Esparina thread (http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=106170&postcount=20). ;)


Just received from the developer sales team.

573 units, 18 storeys, 750PSF
TOP 2014.
2 BR 829 sf
3 BR 1001 to 1152 sf
4 BR 1367 to 1464 sf

So a small 3 BR should starts around 750K onwards.

rainy
19-08-10, 16:32
From Esparina thread (http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=106170&postcount=20). ;)

if esparina launching at 750psf .... property prices really siao leow :scared-4: :scared-1: .....should i sell should i not sell :scared-5:

devilplate
19-08-10, 17:11
if esparina launching at 750psf .... property prices really siao leow :scared-4: :scared-1: .....should i sell should i not sell :scared-5:

sell which ppty?

rainy
20-08-10, 14:46
sell which ppty?

of course my current properties lah :D :D :D

kasper
31-08-10, 09:38
The built up is very quick. I had tracked it and calculated to be around 1 month 3 floors up without brick walls yet just the exterior support structures. One unit even had a balcony installed with grilles to trial it.

Any updated photos to show? Thanks.

ultrakenzo
11-09-10, 23:12
Latest update : only about 100 units left.

Star buy units with attractive discount available.

Still one of the lowest psf price with full condo facilities in the east.

Please refer to http://www.kklim.myweb.sg/agent-about
to deal direct with developer's sales team.

Komo
12-09-10, 14:07
what is preventing a sell out here if price is "lowest psf price"?:confused:

focus
12-09-10, 14:41
what is preventing a sell out here if price is "lowest psf price"?:confused:

Could it be pollution of the air and sea around that region?
Lor Halus will have power plant, Sea water has contamination, air pollution from Johor.

For rental, is it too far away from the biz hub and the 4th uni?
Tampines, Simei, Bedok seems to be the catchment area for the above.

acewee
12-09-10, 15:12
what is preventing a sell out here if price is "lowest psf price"?:confused:
Perceived ulu-ness i think. Even though livia & nv is not that far away, somehow oasis is viewed as more entrenched in hdb. Perception is reality i guess.

cashrich
12-09-10, 15:12
Could it be pollution of the air and sea around that region?
Lor Halus will have power plant, Sea water has contamination, air pollution from Johor.

For rental, is it too far away from the biz hub and the 4th uni?
Tampines, Simei, Bedok seems to be the catchment area for the above.

Yes, the folks who buy here are mainly for self stay.

I would think that it is likely to be due to this

http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/graphics/2010/pr10-100a3.pdf

EC at Elias Road, Pasir Ris Drive 1 - Sep 10 - HDB.

Any other views?

noblebaby
12-09-10, 20:46
only 2 units for Starbuy :sleep:

azeoprop
12-09-10, 21:08
Which one are they? And the price? :rolleyes:

sleek
12-09-10, 21:10
Wah! Gunning for a 4th in a NE direction? ;)


Which one are they? And the price? :rolleyes:

noblebaby
12-09-10, 21:15
if i'm not wrong, one of them is a 3 bedder, stack 21, 3rd floor, 1280sqft, ~$845k.

The other is a 4 bedder, 3rd floor also. not sure abt the price. :confused:


Which one are they? And the price? :rolleyes:

noblebaby
12-09-10, 21:17
NV is better, better quality


Which one are they? And the price? :rolleyes:

gohsoonk
12-09-10, 21:20
Strange thing is that the showroom is not empty anymore. After the cooling measures, the showroom (NV and Oasis@elias) is filled with people...strange...


only 2 units for Starbuy :sleep:

noblebaby
12-09-10, 21:26
yalor, i also dun understand why... :confused: maybe some worried more rules will b introduced, so buy NOW! :D


Strange thing is that the showroom is not empty anymore. After the cooling measures, the showroom (NV and Oasis@elias) is filled with people...strange...

scsc
12-09-10, 21:42
Strange thing is that the showroom is not empty anymore. After the cooling measures, the showroom (NV and Oasis@elias) is filled with people...strange...

Over-stretch "Flipping" speculators replaced by
(i) "real" owner-stayers (those PR renting but have overseas pte prty) &
(ii) Longer-term cash-rich investors (that miss out on HDB, so turn to new mass-condo for cheaper quantum).. *to add to their retirement options

Juz my take on mass segment condo situation after the 30 Aug measures... since that's expected with high liquidity in record low interest environment (When holes starts to patch-up, stronger rats will rush to the front of only a few enterprising holes available)..

Wolverine77
13-09-10, 10:55
Could it be pollution of the air and sea around that region?
Lor Halus will have power plant, Sea water has contamination, air pollution from Johor.

For rental, is it too far away from the biz hub and the 4th uni?
Tampines, Simei, Bedok seems to be the catchment area for the above.


NEA is going to rework all the sewage pipes and likely to finish by 2012 that will solve the sea water issue. For the power plant at the tip of Lor Halus if ever built will be nearer to punggol than pasir ris and no news yet. Air quality in pasir ris is very much better than tampines and simei. There is less human and vehicles traffic and no flatted factories(dust and noise generation). Quality here is 10 times better than Jurong/Boon Lay. As for the rental, why would anyone want to stay so near to Changi Airport and simei MRT tracks not station? Simei is near to 4th uni but it is so crowded and noisy there, and not pleasant for own family stay. No parks there as well. Air pollution from Johor? That is very unlikely given Pulau Ubin is in between johor east and pasir ris. Never smell any bad air in Pulau Ubin let alone Pasir ris.

Wolverine77
13-09-10, 11:05
New-era industrial park at Lorong Halus
Straits Times 5 Feb 10;

Senior Minister of State for National Development and Education Grace Fu this week suggested ways for Singapore to become a more attractive place to live and work in. She gave examples both in industry and the arts.

An artist's impression of the Lorong Halus Food Zone Industrial Development. Factories and plants will be sited among lush greenery in the industrial park, and waterfront lifestyle amenities will be in place for the public to use. The ESC sub-committee suggests better integrating residential, business, leisure and 'clean' industrial uses into 'live-work-play' enclaves. -- PHOTO: URA

EVEN in property-obsessed Singapore, industrial sites are often dismissed as drab, dull areas that hold no interest for the general public.

But new-era industrial parks like the one planned at Lorong Halus in Tampines could change all this.

Formerly a landfill, the land is now home to a wide diversity of wildlife.

When it is turned into an industrial park in the years to come, factories and plants will be sited among lush greenery and waterfront lifestyle amenities that the public can use.

The planned Lorong Halus industrial area was one of the examples cited by the Economic Strategies Committee sub-committee on how to make better use of land. Among its recommendations was a suggestion to better integrate residential, business, leisure and even 'clean' industrial uses into 'live-work-play' enclaves.

Wolverine77
13-09-10, 11:07
Lorong Halus power station and Pulau Ubin micro-grid
Power to rise from the east with new station
Government releasing land for power station at Lorong Halus in strategic move
Ronnie Lim, Business Times 18 Nov 09;

(SINGAPORE) The government is releasing a new land site to develop a power station in Lorong Halus, Tampines - the first in the eastern part of Singapore. It also plans to develop an electricity futures market here, Energy Market Authority (EMA) CEO Lawrence Wong disclosed yesterday.

These are among several new mid to long-term opportunities announced for the energy industry here, although details are still sketchy at this point.

A more immediate prospect will be a tender that EMA will call soon for the development of a micro-grid making use of clean and renewable energy for Pulau Ubin.

The island, which is not connected to the main power grid because of its modest energy demand, currently relies just on diesel generators.

'There is a lot of interest from both local and foreign companies for this (test-bed Ubin project),' Mr Wong said at the Singapore Electricity Roundtable yesterday.

BT had earlier reported on the government's plans for power stations in the east. The move is said to be strategic given that the current stations are mainly located in the west, or on Jurong Island where land is limited. The only exception is Senoko Power, which is located in the north.

EMA said that the new Lorong Halus station in the north-east of Singapore will cater to growing electricity demand there as new industrial clusters develop, and will also help reduce transmission losses (if electricity was otherwise provided from a western station). It is currently working out the sales process for the site.

While there is sufficient generation capacity right now given the on-going expansions or investments by the three biggest gencos here, new power capacity will be needed in the mid-term or around 2020, as electricity demand here resumes a growth path after the recent economic downturn, Mr Wong said yesterday.

Both Senoko Power and PowerSeraya are in the midst of 're-powering' projects to boost their capacity, while Tuas Power has just embarked on building a $2 billion clean coal/biomass cogeneration plant on Jurong Island. India's GMR is also planning to build an 800-megawatt (MW) cogeneration plant there.

Roy Adair, president and CEO of Senoko Power, said that 'green shoots' have reappeared, with 2009 electricity demand growth here now expected to recover to around 0.5-2 per cent from 2008, after demand has fallen by as much as 5 per cent earlier this year.

Between now and 2018, electricity demand is expected to grow by 2.5-3 per cent per annum, EMA said in its just-released Statement of Opportunities report. It added, however, that this does not take into account structural changes in the economy or energy efficiency efforts.

Mr Wong said that another initiative to be launched here shortly will be the use of electric vehicles to be linked to a smart energy grid.

'If 10 per cent of Singapore's vehicles are electric-powered, their demand will be equivalent to that of six Ang Mo Kio's,' he said at the roundtable, referring to electricity consumption in the housing estate.

The advantage of such plug-in electric vehicles is that the batteries can also store electricity which can be sold back to the power grid when they are not in use, he added.

EMA to call for proposals to develop Pulau Ubin micro-grid
Rachel Kelly, Channel NewsAsia 18 Nov 09;

SINGAPORE: The Energy Market Authority of Singapore (EMA) is seeking proposals to design, build, and operate an intelligent micro-grid, with clean and renewable energy technologies on Pulau Ubin.

The expression of interest (EOI) is expected to be launched on Friday.

The announcement was made at the opening of this year's Clean Energy Expo, as part of the International Energy Week.

Rustic Pulau Ubin now counts on diesel to power its lights and electrical needs, but things will soon change. The micro-grid will leverage on renewable energy solutions to provide power to Pulau Ubin's population.

Earlier this year, the EMA engaged consultants to study the feasibility of introducing clean and renewable energy sources on Pulau Ubin to replace diesel generators.

The plan is to have the EMA and the interested party develop five inter-connected grids serving Pulau Ubin's north, south, east, west and jetty regions.

The first phase covering the jetty area is expected to start in 2010. Each grid is estimated to take about two years to complete.

David Tan, deputy chief executive, Energy Planning & Development, EMA said: "The whole purpose of the project is to supply electricity to the community on the island itself, as well as to testbed clean technology.

"The expression of interest will actually close within a month. Thereafter, we will work with the potential candidates who will develop the micro-grid."

The micro-grids will rely on renewable energy such as solar, biofuel, and micro wind turbines. Experts said the technology for such micro-grid projects could be exported and implemented in other parts of the region.

Woochong Um, director, Regional & Sustainable Development, Asian Development Bank said: "When we talk about energy in the Asia Pacific, we talk about countries like India and China which is producing a lot of energy for mass use all over the place, especially for an urban setting.

"But we also have to be conscious of the over 1 billion people who do not have access to the modern form of energy.

"They are resorting to biomass, cutting trees, which has a massive impact on the environment as well as the health, and livelihood of these people. Such projects are part of that access to people, for people who do not have access."

Meanwhile, a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) has been signed between the sustainable energy associations of Singapore and Indonesia. The MOU will pave the way for joint ventures in carbon and solar projects between members of both associations.

- CNA/sc

Sun, wind to power Ubin
Grace Chua, Straits Times 18 Nov 09;

PULAU Ubin could be powered by the sun, wind and even waste in the next one to two years, as Singapore moves to test a combination of clean energy technologies for adoption on the mainland.

The Energy Market Authority is calling on companies to propose plans for an intelligent system that can harness and regulate different power sources such as solar, wind and biofuels, while keeping power supply stable.

The Ubin grid is the latest addition to the government's push into clean energy. Last year, the EMA launched a $25 million fund for energy research, while in 2007, the National Research Foundation set aside $170 million to develop clean energy as a key growth sector.

Pulau Ubin, with its 100 inhabitants, small businesses, restaurants and training camps like Outward Bound Singapore, is viewed as the ideal test-bed for the so-called microgrid and its suppliers of clean energy.

The islanders do not draw energy from the national power grid, as it is too expensive to lay cables from mainland Singapore for such a low demand. Instead, people and businesses le and businesses there have their own diesel generators.

Once the micro-grid is up, clean energy companies can then enter the picture to provide their power sources for the island.

Ubin to be test-bed for clean energy
Power grid will harness electricity from variety of renewable sources
Grace Chua, Straits Times 19 Nov 09;

PULAU Ubin could be powered by the sun, wind and even waste in a year or two, when it becomes a test-bed for clean-energy technologies.

An intelligent power grid will be set up on the island - to harness electricity from a variety of renewable power sources, and then regulate the flow of the power generated. A smart grid gets around the uncertainty of relying on one source of energy, which can make power supply patchy if, say, the wind dies down.

The Energy Market Authority (EMA) is calling for clean-energy companies to propose plans for such a grid.

If the experiment on the rustic island succeeds, the technology can later be applied to the generation and distribution of power on mainland Singapore.

Smart grids being tested in Germany and the United States hold the promise of a steady electricity supply at lower cost and with less waste.

Clean-energy technologies include the conversion of sunlight into electricity, and the use of the sun's heat to boil water and thus producing steam to drive turbines. Biofuels in the form of algae and waste are another energy source.

Conventional methods of generating power, on the other hand, pollute the environment and add greenhouse gases to the atmosphere when non-renewable supplies of coal or petroleum are burnt.

Clean energy is not new here, but its use has been ad hoc, restricted to random buildings and 'green' vehicles. The Ubin grid will thus be the first to pull and redistribute electricity for a confined area.

The Government signalled its push for clean energy with last year's launch of a $25 million fund for energy research. This was after the National Research Foundation set aside $170 million in 2007 to make clean energy a key growth sector.

Pulau Ubin - with its 100 inhabitants, small businesses, restaurants and the outdoor training camp Outward Bound Singapore - is viewed as an ideal 'lab' for a dry run of the micro-grid.

The islanders now rely on their own diesel power generators. They do not draw on the national power grid because it costs too much to lay cables from the mainland for so few people.

Mr David Tan of the EMA's energy planning and development division said the energy authority would fund part of the multimillion-dollar project. The companies running and using the test-bed will bear the rest of the cost.

Speaking to reporters on the sidelines of the three-day Clean Energy Expo conference, he said companies will be given four weeks from tomorrow to come up with proposals.

Mr Edwin Khew, who chairs the Sustainable Energy Association of Singapore, welcomed news about the microgrid, saying: 'Different clean-energy technologies are available, but what happens when you integrate them? So you need a smart grid to manage them.'

Pulau Ubin bicycle shop owner Koh Bee Choo, 40, who now spends $700 a month on diesel and maintenance for her generator, wondered how much it would cost to get electricity from the grid.

The EMA's Mr Tan replied that clean energy would be 'at least cost-competitive for residents', though the residents could opt to keep their generators.

Meanwhile, Mr Robert Teo of the National Parks Board which manages Ubin, said NParks would need to see a development plan to assess the impact of the grid on Ubin's plants and animals, including those on its Chek Jawa intertidal flats.

Wolverine77
13-09-10, 11:09
I think rentals are going to go up soon for Pasir Ris. EMA energy market in Lor Halus means more local companies n MNCs and equals more tenants.

Wolverine77
13-09-10, 11:12
PASIR Ris beachgoers, be warned. Pasir Ris beach is still the worst beach in Singapore.

A recent National Environment Agency (NEA) assessment of the water quality there deemed the water "fair", compared to the other beaches in Singapore, which have all been rated "good" or "very good".

The recent annual assessment by the NEA shows little change from those in 2008 and last year.

Beaches with a water-quality grading of "good" and "very good" - such as those in Sentosa, Seletar Island, Sembawang Park, Changi and East Coast Park are deemed suitable for whole-body water-contact activities like swimming, waterskiing and wakeboarding.

The guidelines are based on levels of a bacteria called enterococcus, which is found in the faeces of humans and warm-blooded animals.

Beaches with enterococcus counts of more than 200 per 100ml in more than 5 per cent of their water samples are graded either "fair", "poor" or "very poor".

Beaches with under 5 per cent of water samples containing enterococcus counts of more than 200 per 100ml are rated "good" or "very good".

Seven per cent of the water samples from Pasir Ris beach contained enterococcus counts of more than 200 per 100ml, though the percentage of enterococcus had decreased by 1 percentage point compared to last year, said the NEA.

Pasir Ris beach remains open to the public, but signs were put up in August 2008 when the water there was first assessed as "fair". The signs warn beachgoers against swimming or any other full-body-contact water activities.

According to the NEA, these precautions should remain in place until the next review in August next year.

A spokesman for the agency said that the water pollution is due to leaks from older sewers, moored vessels, animals, as well as discharge from small-scale
sewage-treatment plants.

National water agency PUB, which is responsible for cleaning the waters around the area, is planning to extend the sewer network in areas such as Changi, Tampines and Selerang by 2012.

Then, the treated sewage will not be discharged at Pasir Ris, but will instead be distributed to other areas. The sewers in the Pasir Ris beach area are also scheduled to be relined by next year.

Members of the public who enter the waters off Pasir Ris beach now risk getting gastrointestinal and respiratory illnesses.

Wolverine77
13-09-10, 11:16
This is good news. In fact works has begun.

azeoprop
24-09-10, 18:35
if i'm not wrong, one of them is a 3 bedder, stack 21, 3rd floor, 1280sqft, ~$845k.

The other is a 4 bedder, 3rd floor also. not sure abt the price. :confused:

Eeee...stack 21 low floor face the elias mall MSCP...no no. :tongue3: Mega starbuy at 580psf then can consider.

ultrakenzo
06-10-10, 00:30
Check the latest here :

http://www.sg-newcondos.com/agent-about

gohsoonk
06-10-10, 09:27
Strange thing is that the showflat has become crowded recently (after NV launch)...


Check the latest here :

http://www.sg-newcondos.com/agent-about

kasper
06-10-10, 09:51
Strange thing is that the showflat has become crowded recently (after NV launch)...

In the current market, the price at O@E is still very attractive as compared to other projects..

ultrakenzo
09-10-10, 21:41
Yes, people still buying.

More than 75% sold in this project.

Wolverine77
10-10-10, 01:54
Value for money condo and last heard selling very well.

0412
13-10-10, 08:42
Strange thing is that the showflat has become crowded recently (after NV launch)...

it could be due to the fact that it's one of the lowest psf New condo around the area plus the building already up..some buyer more willing to pay when they see stacks already up rather than during initial stage i.e piling..

ultrakenzo
13-10-10, 17:08
This project is more than 80% sold.

Sales has been good over the last few weeks.

For latest update, please visit
http://www.sg-newcondos.com/agent-about

Angelbee
15-10-10, 15:28
Hi

I m new to this thread and is considering O@E.

Understand that homogenous tiles are used as finishes in O@E, anyone knows the origin of the tiles used? Like whether the European brand is used or the China-made ones. I searched about homo-tiles and found out the inferior tiles may warp after awhile.

Gone are the days when condo means using marble.

Kenshinto80
15-10-10, 17:55
Hi

I m new to this thread and is considering O@E.

Understand that homogenous tiles are used as finishes in O@E, anyone knows the origin of the tiles used? Like whether the European brand is used or the China-made ones. I searched about homo-tiles and found out the inferior tiles may warp after awhile.

Gone are the days when condo means using marble.

If you like this project, then just ask the developer not to lay homogenous-tiles. It will ease the work of your own contractor once you selected the marble flooring you like and cut down on additional renovation cost.

ultrakenzo
19-10-10, 00:15
Homogeneous tiles are normally better than ceramic tiles.

Developer does not normally reveal where the tiles are manufactured. I think one may write in to check (through the lawyer) after buying the unit.

The homogeneous tiles used in O@E are marble look-alike.

jinxminx99
22-10-10, 21:33
When is this project expected to achieve TOP? I believe there are still unsold units.

Komo
23-10-10, 08:52
10 units unsold till sep. But amazing that 20 units sold in same month median $700 psf. How many units reserved for luck draw?:D

azeoprop
23-10-10, 09:23
I also wish to win, now all my bills are paid by axs machine haa haa...:p

mantrix
23-10-10, 11:14
10 units unsold till sep. But amazing that 20 units sold in same month median $700 psf. How many units reserved for luck draw?:D

I think just one? If you win, what will you do with the condo? Rent it out? Sell it? Stay in it? Scully the unit they give you is on 2nd floor facing the rubbish dump...and 1 bedder somemore you'll never know...:scared-1:

devilplate
23-10-10, 17:58
I think just one? If you win, what will you do with the condo? Rent it out? Sell it? Stay in it? Scully the unit they give you is on 2nd floor facing the rubbish dump...and 1 bedder somemore you'll never know...:scared-1:

any shyt facing i also dun mind....:p

sell 20% discount...sure got takers:D

sgpprop
25-10-10, 22:45
mayb u might wanna consider the new ec coming up. afterall from the same developer and they might also have more facilities other than the "senses pleasure" theme that ces/cel have been marketing on for oasis. the ec is going to b from the same developer cel.
by the way i find the location for the new ec better as it is out of the hdb cluster.

Hi

I m new to this thread and is considering O@E.

Understand that homogenous tiles are used as finishes in O@E, anyone knows the origin of the tiles used? Like whether the European brand is used or the China-made ones. I searched about homo-tiles and found out the inferior tiles may warp after awhile.

Gone are the days when condo means using marble.

Angelbee
26-10-10, 12:41
Hi

The EC is good but I am not qualified to apply.

I am considering O@E mainly due to its "livable" space and reasonable price. The layout is spacious and practical but the facilities aren't fantastic and the plot of land is very small. It is a lot of weighing the pros and cons.

I wonder with so many condo units (plus EC) that will be up around the vicinity, will O @E be hard to sell next time even though it is considered one of the cheapest condo now.

ultrakenzo
26-10-10, 22:55
Condo is still a condo after all.

Oasis@Elias has full condo facilities even the land size is not big.

It is still value for money and there is more upside potential compared with some overpriced condos.

Angelbee
27-10-10, 10:50
Thks ultrakenzo.

I think you are right abt the upside potential. Even the EC is pricing abv $650 - $700psf now.

I hv been to many new condo showflats (mainly in the East) but was quite dissapointed abt the layout. Though some have big land area but the unit itself is either too small or too expensive for the bigger ones. And many layouts have to have the dining area next to the common toilet. I guess the developers only hv "investors-mentality" in mind instead of owner-occupancy. I am buying for stay so liveable space is highly considered.

I may just book O@E. Just need to be doubly comfortable.

Btw, anyone knows about the finishing quality by CES?

devilplate
27-10-10, 10:56
Thks ultrakenzo.

I think you are right abt the upside potential. Even the EC is pricing abv $650 - $700psf now.

I hv been to many new condo showflats (mainly in the East) but was quite dissapointed abt the layout. Though some have big land area but the unit itself is either too small or too expensive for the bigger ones. And many layouts have to have the dining area next to the common toilet. I guess the developers only hv "investors-mentality" in mind instead of owner-occupancy. I am buying for stay so liveable space is highly considered.

I may just book O@E. Just need to be doubly comfortable.

Btw, anyone knows about the finishing quality by CES?

gd choice u made...:2cents:

if i m buying for own stay...i will also buy OE den livia/NV...

OE although cannot walk to MRT...at least u r near to wet market and amenities at door step....for Livia, imagine carrying ur rice sack and walk for 7-10mins....xiong....wana grab a bite also goto walk 7-10mins

furthermore, rest assured no more construction nearby for the next few yrs....

gd choice:cheers1:

drago
28-10-10, 16:09
Hi, me not new but first time posting.

For those want to know about the progress can visit the following website. been uploading some photo on the progress.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/OasisElias/298223462262

Not so much now as the building is almost done.
Hopefully, will upload again when I can see the exterior coming up.

Newpaper advertise TOP next year, anyone has any idea which month?

boon127
28-10-10, 22:12
why not consider Ris Grandeur...quite spacious and it is freehold..though exterior so so only

gohsoonk
28-10-10, 23:22
I am guessing it should be Q3 2011.


Hi, me not new but first time posting.

For those want to know about the progress can visit the following website. been uploading some photo on the progress.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/OasisElias/298223462262

Not so much now as the building is almost done.
Hopefully, will upload again when I can see the exterior coming up.

Newpaper advertise TOP next year, anyone has any idea which month?

mantrix
30-10-10, 08:25
any shyt facing i also dun mind....:p

sell 20% discount...sure got takers:D
if shyte facing how to sell? :)

gohsoonk
01-11-10, 09:37
What is shyte facing?


if shyte facing how to sell? :)

Wolverine77
07-11-10, 13:07
I was very happy to buy O@E in june. It is really a great value purchase. Low maintenance fees, free shuttle and sheltered walk all the way to MRT. No need to wait 5 years and rental income anytime. No restrictions.

The distance from mrt might be a 12 mins walk but worth it. Daily amenities are very close by (Elias mall, beach, schools, pasir ris west mall, giant, ikea, courts and even a petrol station).

There are also 4 nearby multi storey carparks (1 commercial 3 hdb) which means easy to park for residents with more than 1 car. Carparks are a headache issues in all condos. My previous experience is carparks are never enough for all residents, tempers flared easily. Good to stay near HDB estates. I have checked that most HDB carparks are never full. Those with big family and many cars will be glad you stayed in OE.

UPDATES:
I posted some photos at the http://www.facebook.com/pages/OasisElias/298223462262

The latest some blocks are having aircons already installed and cupboards done. The progress is good. The swimming pool is going to be built soon, take a look at the pictures at facebook.

The latest progress and also we have Mitsubishi Electric Inverter Multi split Aircons. I also posted some photos on the hob,hood and oven. Take a look.

regards
Simon

propertysgp
08-11-10, 15:36
Yes, Simon, me too. I am happy with OE.
For a HDB upgrader, i felt the price is better than other projects in Pasir ris.
OE has a shuttle bus service and sheltered walk to mrt so i do not have to worry when it rains. Low maint. fees
near to elias mall, a few metres, i am accessible to food, market, clinic.

"xxxxx"selling at 8xxpsf coz of other upcoming projects.
Facing the noise and air pollution issue for next few years
Other projects claimed near to mrt but when if it rains good luck.

so pple who is considering to buy a decent sized unit, why gotta pay so much for an unit at the other projects when OE is also value for money? :)

But sorry to ask, is mitsubishi inverter good? I thought Daikin is better? :p

Rgds


I was very happy to buy O@E in june. It is really a great value purchase. Low maintenance fees, free shuttle and sheltered walk all the way to MRT. No need to wait 5 years and rental income anytime. No restrictions.

The distance from mrt might be a 12 mins walk but worth it. Daily amenities are very close by (Elias mall, beach, schools, pasir ris west mall, giant, ikea, courts and even a petrol station).

There are also 4 nearby multi storey carparks (1 commercial 3 hdb) which means easy to park for residents with more than 1 car. Carparks are a headache issues in all condos. My previous experience is carparks are never enough for all residents, tempers flared easily. Good to stay near HDB estates. I have checked that most HDB carparks are never full. Those with big family and many cars will be glad you stayed in OE.

UPDATES:
I posted some photos at the http://www.facebook.com/pages/OasisElias/298223462262

The latest some blocks are having aircons already installed and cupboards done. The progress is good. The swimming pool is going to be built soon, take a look at the pictures at facebook.

The latest progress and also we have Mitsubishi Electric Inverter Multi split Aircons. I also posted some photos on the hob,hood and oven. Take a look.

regards
Simon

propertysgp
08-11-10, 16:26
Hi, not to worry, so long u have holding power, juz hold till u find a willing buyer in the future if u intend to sell.

Hard to sell or not, no one will be able to advice.
look at the full plot of land for upcoming projects near NV, all condos clustered together, it will be v.v.competitive in that area.

Considering the amenities and pri schools so near to OE, should not be a big problem to sell if your price is realistic.


Hi

The EC is good but I am not qualified to apply.

I am considering O@E mainly due to its "livable" space and reasonable price. The layout is spacious and practical but the facilities aren't fantastic and the plot of land is very small. It is a lot of weighing the pros and cons.

I wonder with so many condo units (plus EC) that will be up around the vicinity, will O @E be hard to sell next time even though it is considered one of the cheapest condo now.

acewee
08-11-10, 21:32
Yes, Simon, me too. I am happy with OE.
For a HDB upgrader, i felt the price is better than other projects in Pasir ris.
OE has a shuttle bus service and sheltered walk to mrt so i do not have to worry when it rains. Low maint. fees
near to elias mall, a few metres, i am accessible to food, market, clinic.

"xxxxx"selling at 8xxpsf coz of other upcoming projects.
Facing the noise and air pollution issue for next few years
Other projects claimed near to mrt but when if it rains good luck.

so pple who is considering to buy a decent sized unit, why gotta pay so much for an unit at the other projects when OE is also value for money? :)

But sorry to ask, is mitsubishi inverter good? I thought Daikin is better? :p

Rgds

Hi Guys, congrats. For own stay, I think O@E is a steal. I will choose this development over the CDL ones anytime if I'm considering Pasir Ris.

tomdick12
08-11-10, 22:42
a condo nested among HDB with a small mall beside it. Sure make the HDB upgraders feel really at home :doh:


Hi Guys, congrats. For own stay, I think O@E is a steal. I will choose this development over the CDL ones anytime if I'm considering Pasir Ris.

acewee
08-11-10, 23:08
a condo nested among HDB with a small mall beside it. Sure make the HDB upgraders feel really at home :doh:

and in yr opinion the cdl developments, one of 5 on a huge piece of land, nestled between tpe and hdb with no mall (small or big) near it is a better choice, especially when its selling at est 20-30% higher? Keep in mind that my comment is refering to only pasir ris.

sgpprop
10-11-10, 16:42
Well everyone will b entitled to their preferences.... Location, pricing and developer type is utmost to me. My other benchmark will b the land tender price ......
and in yr opinion the cdl developments, one of 5 on a huge piece of land, nestled between tpe and hdb with no mall (small or big) near it is a better choice, especially when its selling at est 20-30% higher? Keep in mind that my comment is refering to only pasir ris.

acewee
10-11-10, 19:23
Well everyone will b entitled to their preferences.... Location, pricing and developer type is utmost to me. My other benchmark will b the land tender price ......
I don't quite understand how land tender price is a factor for consideration of preference. Mind explaining?

propertysgp
10-11-10, 22:12
Think what sgpprop means is not referring to preference but a determinant contributing to the purchase of an unit in any project, right?


I don't quite understand how land tender price is a factor for consideration of preference. Mind explaining?

propertysgp
10-11-10, 22:32
Hmmm, if anyone realised one of the almost TOP project has a no. of units having HDB view and now asking for sky high prices coz of the upcoming project on next plot of land.

Facing so many construction in many years time, we are talking about many years not months.... the noise and air pollution!!!

Has anyone ever explore Elias mall? I did! Its not considered small compared to loyang point.
I think its really fantastic for many esp working mothers coz food/ market/ clinic is few meters away. no worries that our kids will be hungry..
Reputable Child care ctr i.e. Cherry hearts also in the mall!

Agree with Devilplate: "for Livia, imagine carrying ur rice sack and walk for 7-10mins....xiong....wana grab a bite also goto walk 7-10mins"

Shuttle bus services are free for 1st 2 yrs. Maint. fees are affordable.
Left and right also has primary schools. :spliff:

I personally think each person will has his or her view/ preference over a certain project. There will bound to have a group of buyers who love OE and the other group criticising OE.

OE folks, do you feel at home? I reckon we do! Nothing shameful being HDB upgraders or living near HDB wor ;):cool:


a condo nested among HDB with a small mall beside it. Sure make the HDB upgraders feel really at home :doh:

acewee
10-11-10, 22:40
Think what sgpprop means is not referring to preference but a determinant contributing to the purchase of an unit in any project, right?
Thanks for your effort in clarifying propertysgp, or should i call you sgpprop, or issit tom, dick and harry. lol. :tsk-tsk:

propertysgp
11-11-10, 09:52
Thanks for your effort in clarifying propertysgp, or should i call you sgpprop, or issit tom, dick and harry. lol. :tsk-tsk:

Dun get you... Why call me sgprop?

acewee
11-11-10, 21:05
My apologies if I'm mistaken but your nick is quite similar, opinion is similar, and both accounts are relatively new. There are many multi account holders out there who....


Dun get you... Why call me sgprop?

tomdick12
11-11-10, 22:49
We are not the same person lah :) chill! Oasis@elias is not bad actually. Wonder why all my agents advised me against it when I was shopping around for an investment unit.


http://sgproptalk.blogspot.com/2010/04/oasis-elias-review.html

acewee
11-11-10, 23:26
We are not the same person lah :) chill! Oasis@elias is not bad actually. Wonder why all my agents advised me against it when I was shopping around for an investment unit.


http://sgproptalk.blogspot.com/2010/04/oasis-elias-review.html
Er, yr earlier post seemed to suggest that O@e is too low class for u leh. Frankly for own stay its ok. But for rental it will b tricky.

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 09:13
Hi, not to worry, so long u have holding power, juz hold till u find a willing buyer in the future if u intend to sell.
_______________________________________________________________
Hard to sell or not, no one will be able to advice.
look at the full plot of land for upcoming projects near NV, all condos clustered together, it will be v.v.competitive in that area.

Considering the amenities and pri schools so near to OE, should not be a big problem to sell if your price is realistic.


True. 5 condos + 1 EC going to be built there. CDL built 5 and CEL built EC. But only OE has the best amenities and least noise pollution. BTW the McDonald has shifted to Community Centre and is larger and better. At least delivery motorbike noise and air pollution moved further away now. A big bonus.

CDL is going to built a nice grove road to cater to 3000 units it is building. I would think that road will be jammed packed every day. Why would people endure the 5-6 years pf construction noises??? I decided not to buy Livia because of the many issues. Bad planning on CDL, owner occupier will not want to stay there and rental will be low as well. There is an iphone app "decibel" use it to measure noise levels and very accurate. Noise levels are not in good range for livia and the rest.

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 09:17
We are not the same person lah :) chill! Oasis@elias is not bad actually. Wonder why all my agents advised me against it when I was shopping around for an investment unit.


http://sgproptalk.blogspot.com/2010/04/oasis-elias-review.html


It depends on what you want. I prefer to buy units that i would want to stay in first and ranked rental income 2nd. With so many condos coming up, rental income is very stiff in the near future. Most Agents are not to be trusted. None of them is trustworthy unless they are your very good friends. I would think you should shop ard more before making a decision.

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 09:23
why not consider Ris Grandeur...quite spacious and it is freehold..though exterior so so only

A good choice too but too near to canal and major road and expressway noise levels too much. Noisy layout of the units facing each other in a big circle. Noise cant travel out gets trapped inside. Too far from many amenities. If all the above you can bear then it is good choice for you. Price wise still within acceptable limits.

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 09:26
Hmmm, if anyone realised one of the almost TOP project has a no. of units having HDB view and now asking for sky high prices coz of the upcoming project on next plot of land.

Facing so many construction in many years time, we are talking about many years not months.... the noise and air pollution!!!

Has anyone ever explore Elias mall? I did! Its not considered small compared to loyang point.
I think its really fantastic for many esp working mothers coz food/ market/ clinic is few meters away. no worries that our kids will be hungry..
Reputable Child care ctr i.e. Cherry hearts also in the mall!

Agree with Devilplate: "for Livia, imagine carrying ur rice sack and walk for 7-10mins....xiong....wana grab a bite also goto walk 7-10mins"

Shuttle bus services are free for 1st 2 yrs. Maint. fees are affordable.
Left and right also has primary schools. :spliff:

I personally think each person will has his or her view/ preference over a certain project. There will bound to have a group of buyers who love OE and the other group criticising OE.

OE folks, do you feel at home? I reckon we do! Nothing shameful being HDB upgraders or living near HDB wor ;):cool:


We should start a OE committee asap. Let all OE residents gathered up at facebook or we can set up a forum? We should go to myhometown.sg to start one? Any suggestions?

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 09:35
1863

Let's all start a roll call for Oasis@Elias Condominium

Block Unit No. Bedder Nickname Email(Optional)
72 6-24 3 wolverine77 [email protected]

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 09:46
Well everyone will b entitled to their preferences.... Location, pricing and developer type is utmost to me. My other benchmark will b the land tender price ......


Tender price is $228psf for O@E. Comparing to newer purchase land it is consider cheap. Then again CEL is not selling out of the world prices and almost all CEL condos are sold at very good resale prices once completed. Take bishan loft (EC) 2004, Parc Condo 2010 and none sold any cheaper. CEL also won an award for being most transparent developer in yr 2010. It is moving in the right direction. And cheapening their name is not on their cards. If you know what i mean, FAR EAST.

tomdick12
12-11-10, 09:48
i wouldn't buy it for own stay either


Er, yr earlier post seemed to suggest that O@e is too low class for u leh. Frankly for own stay its ok. But for rental it will b tricky.

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 09:49
i wouldn't buy it for own stay either

Tom, at least you have decide against it. Thats fine. Wish you better luck in finding your dream home.

tomdick12
12-11-10, 09:52
i guess the bottomline is that Oasis is the best :)
Didn't know you have a preference to staying near HDB as what you mentioned in your earlier post. Maybe i should also consider this too.

Which HDB blocks is your unit facing? Good view? Block by the MSCP or not?


It depends on what you want. I prefer to buy units that i would want to stay in first and ranked rental income 2nd. With so many condos coming up, rental income is very stiff in the near future. Most Agents are not to be trusted. None of them is trustworthy unless they are your very good friends. I would think you should shop ard more before making a decision.

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 10:05
i guess the bottomline is that Oasis is the best :)
Didn't know you have a preference to staying near HDB as what you mentioned in your earlier post. Maybe i should also consider this too.

Which HDB blocks is your unit facing? Good view? Block by the MSCP or not?

You can go to the http://www.facebook.com/pages/OasisElias/298223462262 for more information about O@E. I think we all should adopt an open mind when buying an expensive home. My facing is the pool and driveway. Not interested in high floors and the sea view which anyway the beach is so near.

Actually, O@E is best becoz the price is good, there are good amenities and generally clean and well maintained HDB neighborhood. FYI, there is no 3 Rm flats in the vicinity which makes a lot of differences to an area. I think everyone has their preference which is very normal but sometimes we need to think harder with our pockets. Is $800-850 psf condo yet to be completed and 7-8 mins walk to anything worth your wait in pasir ris?

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 10:15
Oasis@Elias
CEL also constructed the Duxton Heights which won 2 international awards.Not an easy feat to do.

1864
1865
1866

Take a look at the 5 condos crowded together by CDL.
1867
copy this pic from propertyguru not done by me.

tomdick12
12-11-10, 10:22
yes I agreed with you that Oasis and Lakeshore are the 2 best condo money can buy. You don't have to justify your reason for buying them mate, I fully support you :)

I am sure there are alot of buyers in future who want to buy low floor in Oasis for being near HDB, having a MSCP and also (not that near) to the beach.
I think I better head down to the showroom and book soon.


Oasis@Elias
CEL also constructed the Duxton Heights which won 2 international awards.Not an easy feat to do.

1864
1865
1866

Take a look at the 5 condos crowded together by CDL.
1867
copy this pic from propertyguru not done by me.

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 10:27
yes I agreed with you that Oasis and Lakeshore are the 2 best condo money can buy. You don't have to justify your reason for buying them mate, I fully support you :)

I am sure there are alot of buyers in future who want to buy low floor in Oasis for being near HDB, having a MSCP and also (not that near) to the beach.
I think I better head down to the showroom and book soon.


Lakeshore was good in terms of facilities, location and amenities, but as a FE project quality not so good but most importantly the air in jurong really sucks. I gave up soon. Anyway i worked in east side so scouted the area and decided on O@E. Thats my reason, mate. Dont booked so soon, wait for the EC if you can. No harm waiting.

tomdick12
12-11-10, 10:36
So how much did you make from selling your previous condo? You bought Oasis without loan right?


Lakeshore was good in terms of facilities, location and amenities, but as a FE project quality not so good but most importantly the air in jurong really sucks. I gave up soon. Anyway i worked in east side so scouted the area and decided on O@E. Thats my reason, mate. Dont booked so soon, wait for the EC if you can. No harm waiting.

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 10:47
So how much did you make from selling your previous condo? You bought Oasis without loan right?

Bro. Cant tell you how much i earned but l do take up a loan. Frankly, i wont buy an FEO project again.

Angelbee
12-11-10, 16:11
i wouldn't buy it for own stay either

Before you discount O@E, perhaps you may want to visit the showroom one more time, but do so after visiting the newer ones around the vicinity first. You may appreciate what O@E offers.

I am also considering O@E and eyeing for one now. I definitely agree with Wolverine77 of the pros of the condo.

Frankly, the first negative comment is always "in the midst of HDB". I did harbour the same thought because I am currently staying in a so-called prime location surrounded with condos but far away from HDB and amenities.

For 10 years, I have to drive in order to do the simplest errands because the nearest market, banks, hawker centres are situated in the midst of HDB. After awhile, it is really a hastle. That is why I appreciate there is Elias Mall. It is a matter of exclusivity or pracitcal living for me. I think now I opt for the latter.

In my opinion, "condo-living must be far from HDB" is really a perception thing. Unless you are talking about prime districts, given land scarce Singapore, you can't avoid not living near HDB clusters. That's why the new marketing phrase is "near MRT". And MRT serves mainly HDB dwellers. Projects near MRT are now highly priced. Some even priced higher than FH condos, especially those older ones in Flora Road.

I was tempted to buy Livia but the small layout turned me off. The larger ones are highly priced. I don't think the upside is going to be great. I was also in the VVIP queue for NV, again the layout turned me off and I did not book any. Their land size are big but not for the actual unit.

I chanced upon O@E when visiting Livia. Immediately, I like the practical layout. A funtional balcony not just only a planter, a yard with clothes drying area, and of course, the price is right.

This is just my opinion.

For the rest of OE owners, I am glad we share the same view. OE shall not be short of buyers in the future as we already have all the pros to share. I will certainly join in the committee once I cfm a unit.

Best of luck!

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 17:50
[QUOTE=propertysgp]Yes, Simon, me too. I am happy with OE.
For a HDB upgrader, i felt the price is better than other projects in Pasir ris.
OE has a shuttle bus service and sheltered walk to mrt so i do not have to worry when it rains. Low maint. fees
near to elias mall, a few metres, i am accessible to food, market, clinic.

"xxxxx"selling at 8xxpsf coz of other upcoming projects.
Facing the noise and air pollution issue for next few years
Other projects claimed near to mrt but when if it rains good luck.

so pple who is considering to buy a decent sized unit, why gotta pay so much for an unit at the other projects when OE is also value for money? :)

But sorry to ask, is mitsubishi inverter good? I thought Daikin is better? :p

Rgds[/QUOTE

I think ME Aircons are better. They are very energy saving and quiet too. Diakin also great brand. Anyway it is better than fuji and other funny brands.

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 17:52
Angelbee,

Not many units left. I think left about 60 plus. Since, you have made up your mind and better booked fast for choice unit.

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 18:00
Hi

I m new to this thread and is considering O@E.

Understand that homogenous tiles are used as finishes in O@E, anyone knows the origin of the tiles used? Like whether the European brand is used or the China-made ones. I searched about homo-tiles and found out the inferior tiles may warp after awhile.

Gone are the days when condo means using marble.

I think only the SIMS kitchen sink for O@E and no rain shower is a big let down, the rest of the taps and shower heads are made in germany, Hansa brand. Cooker, hob and oven are decent enough and reliable brand. I had used them before no big issue. Aircon is ME Inverter. But not sure whether there will be digital door lock. Quite unlikely, but during the The Parc Condo(same developer) TOP, there are alot of promotion to sell digital door locks right inside the premises.

Wolverine77
12-11-10, 18:03
Before you discount O@E, perhaps you may want to visit the showroom one more time, but do so after visiting the newer ones around the vicinity first. You may appreciate what O@E offers.

I am also considering O@E and eyeing for one now. I definitely agree with Wolverine77 of the pros of the condo.

Frankly, the first negative comment is always "in the midst of HDB". I did harbour the same thought because I am currently staying in a so-called prime location surrounded with condos but far away from HDB and amenities.

For 10 years, I have to drive in order to do the simplest errands because the nearest market, banks, hawker centres are situated in the midst of HDB. After awhile, it is really a hastle. That is why I appreciate there is Elias Mall. It is a matter of exclusivity or pracitcal living for me. I think now I opt for the latter.

In my opinion, "condo-living must be far from HDB" is really a perception thing. Unless you are talking about prime districts, given land scarce Singapore, you can't avoid not living near HDB clusters. That's why the new marketing phrase is "near MRT". And MRT serves mainly HDB dwellers. Projects near MRT are now highly priced. Some even priced higher than FH condos, especially those older ones in Flora Road.

I was tempted to buy Livia but the small layout turned me off. The larger ones are highly priced. I don't think the upside is going to be great. I was also in the VVIP queue for NV, again the layout turned me off and I did not book any. Their land size are big but not for the actual unit.

I chanced upon O@E when visiting Livia. Immediately, I like the practical layout. A funtional balcony not just only a planter, a yard with clothes drying area, and of course, the price is right.

This is just my opinion.

For the rest of OE owners, I am glad we share the same view. OE shall not be short of buyers in the future as we already have all the pros to share. I will certainly join in the committee once I cfm a unit.

Best of luck!

O@E 2 bedder is the largest. 3 Bedder has very decent liveable layout space. NV residence concept of the hidden closet on the floor kinda stupid and dangerous. I fully agreed with angel about good layout. Big land area but squeezy unit is not idea at all.

propertysgp
12-11-10, 23:34
We are not the same person lah :) chill! Oasis@elias is not bad actually. Wonder why all my agents advised me against it when I was shopping around for an investment unit.


http://sgproptalk.blogspot.com/2010/04/oasis-elias-review.html

I agree with Acewee. Your previous posting seems to give pple impression that U feel ashame if u buy OE.
Ask U, if you are an agent, will you be putting down the unit or project you market ans upsell other project? U may get to meet such agent if they are your frenz or you are v.lucky. Be wary of such agents badmouthing other projects, good ones will give neutral opinion. :)


a condo nested among HDB with a small mall beside it. Sure make the HDB upgraders feel really at home

propertysgp
12-11-10, 23:42
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tomdick12
13-11-10, 00:26
All the agents I spoke to are close friends. I think mostly only owners bad mouth against other development to make themselves feel at ease with their decision.

I still don't quite get it. If living near HDB is actually a benefit, then why don't get a HDB instead? Even when I bought my jumbo flat few years back, I choose it because it is not facing nor surrounded by any HDB blocks.

lastly, if Oasis is so good as what you guys said, how come it is still not 100% sold. Imagine when all the CDL condos are up, subsale buyers will be considering whether to get that condo within HDB or the condo amongst the condos. Which one would you choose?

Most people buy condo for status upgrade and you got to agree on this :) Else people would be like me and get a 192mq flat for just $380K with lift just outside my door. Talk about livable space and near to amenities my flat can beat all hands down wor :) But it is still a flat afterall.


I agree with Acewee. Your previous posting seems to give pple impression that U feel ashame if u buy OE.
Ask U, if you are an agent, will you be putting down the unit or project you market ans upsell other project? U may get to meet such agent if they are your frenz or you are v.lucky. Be wary of such agents badmouthing other projects, good ones will give neutral opinion. :)

Wolverine77
13-11-10, 12:38
Tom,

You have a point about that. HDB has it pros and cons too. I used to stay in HDB 5 rm in whampoa. I will not want to be tied down by all sorts of policies by HDB but the main point is HDB has really low security and carparks are not under surveillance. I have kenna having my new car vandalise and my neighbour unit having paint splashed at their door and even set fire on the unit. I used to live in HDB for 5 years and overall quite a pleasant feeling except those stated but alot of environment factors are mostly beyond your control. At least in a private estate such factors are more controlled. Of course, living near HDB area with amenities is a boon than bane. Having said that, Tom, no point arguing the HDB vs Condo(O@E). They are different altogether. My 2 cents worth.

Wolverine77
13-11-10, 12:44
As for comparing to CDL, almost all O@E forumers are not bad mouthing other developments in their respective threads. This is an O@E thread so it stays here whatever the comments are made. As long as you like your place of stay is fine. I like O@E and for those who bought NV and Livia are great too. :>

Wolverine77
13-11-10, 18:50
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hackjazz
14-11-10, 01:49
Block Unit No. Bedder Nickname Email(Optional)
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3. 66 09-11 hackjazz [email protected]

hackjazz
14-11-10, 02:35
Tom,

You have a point about that. HDB has it pros and cons too. I used to stay in HDB 5 rm in whampoa. I will not want to be tied down by all sorts of policies by HDB but the main point is HDB has really low security and carparks are not under surveillance. I have kenna having my new car vandalise and my neighbour unit having paint splashed at their door and even set fire on the unit. I used to live in HDB for 5 years and overall quite a pleasant feeling except those stated but alot of environment factors are mostly beyond your control. At least in a private estate such factors are more controlled. Of course, living near HDB area with amenities is a boon than bane. Having said that, Tom, no point arguing the HDB vs Condo(O@E). They are different altogether. My 2 cents worth.

Hi Tom,

I somehow agree with Wolverine, I took my new flat without any grant before one year the government release the news of granting 30K subsidy to 1st timer and without any floor finishing option. Both my wife and me have to sign the declaration " Having enjoying the Subsidy" during my second appt, such a turn off policy Mr Mah had introduced. And more tied down policies were introduced.

HDB and Condo is two different entities issue. Imagine paying $50.00 conservation fee and carpark $90.00, total $140.00, as compared with paying $210 (additional of $70) maintenance fee with a confirmed carpark space u r entitled for, usage of facilities and immediate complaint to management for thing you are not happy with. Condo is a tangible asset which will appreciated faster than HDB, please take note of that. To me, I will not pay $30K - 50K COV to the flat owner as it is such a waste of money as if you are giving the money to charity. Lastly, i will not buy a 30 year old 4 room flat with 400K. My 2 cents worth.

I also experienced alot of agents bad mouthing each project, but in the end i still prefer Oasis than Livia and Nv Residence. Please consider the distance away Oasis and Livia, possible 700M away, and yet the price is about $80K difference. Money is not easy to earn these days bro,
i am very ethnic person and believe in transparent policy. Do you know some agents who put up the Ad in propertyguru or newspaper are the seller/Owner themselves? Directors of the Developer who bought the few units and re sold in the secondary market which had contributed the upturn the whole property market. That the reason i choose to buy @ new launch project.

As both my wife and I are in IT industry, we always get home probably around midnight or even later when there is IT Show, security is one of the main concern we are looking at, imagine for the current crime rate and influx of foreigners, scary murder news. Sorry, if i may sound offensive.
I would suggest you to walk around the site, Livia and NV and you will know why you will be sweaty before you reach White sand for makan.

Very lastly, I am a HDB upgrader, not a investor...For own stay and my parent retirement enjoyment place.

thank for viewing:):)

acewee
14-11-10, 07:27
As for comparing to CDL, almost all O@E forumers are not bad mouthing other developments in their respective threads. This is an O@E thread so it stays here whatever the comments are made. As long as you like your place of stay is fine. I like O@E and for those who bought NV and Livia are great too. :>

Every development will have its pros and cons. Sometimes being objective may be perceived as bad mouthing but as long as things are said in context, then it will serve its purpose in a forum.

As highlighted in my initial thread, my preference is O@E as compared to the CDL projects if we are comparing developments in Pasir Ris. I'm also an upgrader and I fully appreciate the convenience of living in a well served HDB estate. In my example, my current place has a mini mall concept that has a food court, supermarket, clinic, bakery, hair salon that is fully connected and sheltered from my block. While the main attractions of moving to a condo are security and facility, I must admit that in most instances, you lose the convenience of being close the the 'common services'.

Precisely for this reason why I said O@E is better than the CDLs. Residents of O@E will enjoy the convenience of the 'common services' while living in the security and accessible facility of the condo. As for being in the centre of HDB estates and potentially having your unit face a HDB block, I do not see it as any difference to having your unit face another condo unit. Within a condo, there are many choices of facing anyway.

For me, I just want to make the point that for own stay, O@E trumps the CDLs in 2 area, proximity to 'common services' and price. All other considerations (eg. proximity to mrt) are more or less equal. For rental yield, frankly I will choose neither.

imho.

PS. I do not own a unit at O@E.

sgpprop
14-11-10, 20:30
hey guys wad i am trying to share is that property investment for the long haul will b great if you are able to lock-in the pricing of your purchase relative to a benchmark.
And in this case i choose the plain vanilla which is land tender price + construction cost. So long as one is not paying more than 15% above the mentioned cost add-ups (land tender+ construction cost) one should be able to take on the inflationary hedge quite comfortably.


I don't quite understand how land tender price is a factor for consideration of preference. Mind explaining?

Wolverine77
14-11-10, 22:16
Oasis land price is $228psf plus construction costs of $300-350psf = developer is selling around $640-$780. CES is earning profits easily. For us, most bought at average $700 which means an upside of $100-$150 as compared to NV/LIVIA now selling at $800-$1000(BUC). Confidently say O@E is a safe bet and the last EC tender price is even higher than OE. Cant be more cheaper rite?

Land price for Keppel which won the Lakefront Residence(Lakeside MRT) 623 units is $500psf + construction costs which goes up $400-500psf. What kind of pricing you would expect? $1100-1200psf? That makes O@E really affordable.

Wolverine77
14-11-10, 23:58
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Wolverine77
15-11-10, 20:51
Total Number of Units in Project
Cumulative Units Launched to-date
Cumulative Units Sold to-date
Cumulative Units Launched but Unsold
Units Launched in the Month
Units Sold in the Month
Median Price ($psf) # in the Month
Number Sold By Price Range
Lowest Price ($psf) # in the Month
Highest Price ($psf) # in the Month

NV RESIDENCES Pasir Ris Grove Hong Realty (Private) Limited
Non-Landed OCR

642 480 418 62 100 81 831 728 1,193

OASIS @ ELIAS Elias Road CES Land Pte Ltd Non-Landed OCR

388 330 315 15 22 17 713 621 796

Total (including ECs) 1030 810 733 77 122 98 - - -
Total (excluding ECs) 1030 810 733 77 122 98 - - -

sgpprop
15-11-10, 23:21
its good to b optimstic...east is already a premium compared to the western part of singapore. so no doubt about the possibility. my :2cents: worth would b that a home is not jus abt structures. A condo property is likey owning a prized candy. Candies are all but sugar. So different flavours for different p-type (people type) Ultimatley all owners must have a sweet loving experience. Sometimes sweet xperiences aint quantifiable Home Sweet Home:)
Oasis land price is $228psf plus construction costs of $300-350psf = developer is selling around $640-$780. CES is earning profits easily. For us, most bought at average $700 which means an upside of $100-$150 as compared to NV/LIVIA now selling at $800-$1000(BUC). Confidently say O@E is a safe bet and the last EC tender price is even higher than OE. Cant be more cheaper rite?

Land price for Keppel which won the Lakefront Residence(Lakeside MRT) 623 units is $500psf + construction costs which goes up $400-500psf. What kind of pricing you would expect? $1100-1200psf? That makes O@E really affordable.

Wolverine77
16-11-10, 08:32
West and North really not a good choice. Best is central and east. HDB, DBSS and HUDC are all candies too. Priced differently but end up the same if the bubble burst.

drago
16-11-10, 16:07
The Next Generation Nationwide Broadband Network (Next Gen NBN) is Singapore’s all-fibre ultra-high-speed broadband network, a project under the Intelligent National 2015 (iN2015) masterplan by the Infocomm Development Authority of Singapore (IDA), that is capable of delivering speeds of 1Gbps and above, to all homes, offices and schools to offer pervasive connectivity around Singapore. :)

Anyone has any idea will our oasis home be wired? From news that most condo owners or management do not want it cos it does not conceal the trunking.:(

acewee
16-11-10, 18:02
The Next Generation Nationwide Broadband Network (Next Gen NBN) is Singapore’s all-fibre ultra-high-speed broadband network, a project under the Intelligent National 2015 (iN2015) masterplan by the Infocomm Development Authority of Singapore (IDA), that is capable of delivering speeds of 1Gbps and above, to all homes, offices and schools to offer pervasive connectivity around Singapore. :)

Anyone has any idea will our oasis home be wired? From news that most condo owners or management do not want it cos it does not conceal the trunking.:(

You can write to them to enquire on the schedule.

focus
17-11-10, 13:29
The Next Generation Nationwide Broadband Network (Next Gen NBN) is Singapore’s all-fibre ultra-high-speed broadband network, a project under the Intelligent National 2015 (iN2015) masterplan by the Infocomm Development Authority of Singapore (IDA), that is capable of delivering speeds of 1Gbps and above, to all homes, offices and schools to offer pervasive connectivity around Singapore. :)

Anyone has any idea will our oasis home be wired? From news that most condo owners or management do not want it cos it does not conceal the trunking.:(

wa.. even IDA can force stuff down people's throat.
Sometimes... I wonder what these people are thinking..
If your NBN is very attractive and offers immense benefits, those 20% will come begging for it. Even paying for installation.

Don't force things down people's throat.

Wolverine77
18-11-10, 17:08
I have checked with the project manager of CES on O@E. He told me it will be provided the conduit and points for allowing future opennet FO installation. Which means we are clear of this ugly installation thingy on our walls. Great news rite!

Wolverine77
18-11-10, 18:14
SINGAPORE NEWS

23 construction deaths in 1st 9 months
By Andre Yeo | Posted: 18 November 2010 1513 hrs


SINGAPORE: In the first nine months of this year, 23 construction workers died in Singapore.

This was revealed on Thursday by Senior Parliamentary Secretary (Manpower and Health) Hawazi Daipi at an event to mark Chip Eng Seng (CES) Engineering & Construction achieving one million accident-free hours at Oasis@Elias condominium at Elias Road.

He said so far this year, construction fatalities account for about 60 per cent of all work fatalities.

He said while the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) will take action against those who neglect work safety, enforcement cannot be the only way to prevent fatalities and accidents at workplaces.

This is because MOM officers cannot monitor the thousands of worksites in Singapore all the time.

He said developers, contractors, subcontractors and workers must play their part too.

Mr Hawazi said: "In safety, we are talking about lives, about people whose families can be greatly affected by the lack of safety. While we cannot put a value on safety, the lack of it can exact a hefty price on those affected".

He said those in management must have an effective management system to deal with safety and health issues.

He said falls from height is the top killer at worksites here, accounting for more than half of all construction fatalities.

He praised CES for ensuring all its worksites did not have any fatalities, this year.

Two CES workers had been killed in 2008 and 2009 - one was electrocuted and another was killed by a fallen object during a lifting operation.

Mr Hawazi noted CES had reduced injuries at their sites by over 60 per cent compared to last year and praised them for the improvement.

-CNA/wk

Wolverine77
18-11-10, 18:15
:) Well Done CES!

Wolverine77
19-11-10, 19:52
OASIS @ ELIAS ELIAS ROAD Condominium
888,000 1,249 Strata 711psf Oct-10
OASIS @ ELIAS ELIAS ROAD Condominium
720,000 980 Strata 735psf Oct-10
OASIS @ ELIAS ELIAS ROAD Condominium
771,000 980 Strata 787psf Oct-10
OASIS @ ELIAS ELIAS ROAD Condominium
871,000 1,249 Strata 698psf Oct-10

Price trending up...

romeo
23-11-10, 21:58
I worked in changi so get to travel around pasir ris a fair bit..

always seeing Oasis showroom, i had been wondering where exactly is the devt site until last week i chanced upon it..

imho, i don't like what i see, proximity to amenities or not.. it is clamp betwn elias mall n hdb.. really clamp..

and i thought it would be like next to the showroom, really near to the beach..

:doh:

sgpprop
24-11-10, 10:49
u are right. In fact I am a keen investor awaiting for the reserve list under hdb land parcel s4a which is right oppsite the show flat. Potential to b a good seaview development on the clusters beside semidis n away from the crowds
I worked in changi so get to travel around pasir ris a fair bit..

always seeing Oasis showroom, i had been wondering where exactly is the devt site until last week i chanced upon it..

imho, i don't like what i see, proximity to amenities or not.. it is clamp betwn elias mall n hdb.. really clamp..

and i thought it would be like next to the showroom, really near to the beach..

:doh:

devilplate
24-11-10, 10:54
u are right. In fact I am a keen investor awaiting for the reserve list under hdb land parcel s4a which is right oppsite the show flat. Potential to b a good seaview development on the clusters beside semidis n away from the crowds

tat plot of land is slated for strata-clustered housing...its written on the display board...so shd be 4 storey max

sgpprop
24-11-10, 11:10
Proposed development to be strata landed housing or condominium/ flat. So a developer wif foresight will make it a mix of townhouse n condo
tat plot of land is slated for strata-clustered housing...its written on the display board...so shd be 4 storey max

sgpprop
24-11-10, 11:12
U may check out the details via hdb website under the reserve listing for land tender . Cheers
Proposed development to be strata landed housing or condominium/ flat. So a developer wif foresight will make it a mix of townhouse n condo

devilplate
24-11-10, 17:09
there will be very limited seaview so to speak with PR of 1.4 ...perhaps only PH on the 5th storey can have some seaview


The maximum building height for Condominium/ Flat development shall be 5 storeys, while the maximum building height for Strata Landed Housing development shall be 3 storeys.

http://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/fi10297p.nsf/ImageView/Pasir%20Ris%20S4a%20-%20ACOT/$file/ACOT+Pasir+Ris+S4a+(30.8.10).pdf

i will choose to build strata landed housing if i am the developer

those who bot a seaview unit at OE can have a peace of mind:cheers6:
(reminds me of a guy who mentioned last time tat OE seaview will be blocked by this future development...well, he is wrong:p )

propertysgp
24-11-10, 23:53
As for comparing to CDL, almost all O@E forumers are not bad mouthing other developments in their respective threads. This is an O@E thread so it stays here whatever the comments are made. As long as you like your place of stay is fine. I like O@E and for those who bought NV and Livia are great too. :>

Yeah! I am back! :cool:
Hey hey! The projects i.e. NV and Livia are good and each projects have their pros n cons. There will not be any project that will please all.

In fact, I wanna buy Livia and placed offers against some units that were put on sale. But the owners either backed out or decided to jack up their asking price till I give up.

Thereafter a gf of mine whom had bought Livia talked into me to take a look at the showflat at OE after I shared my bad experience trying to up my budget every $50K to match the ever-changing crazy asking prices of Livia.

It took me sometime to convince my hubby into buying OE and below factors were taken into serious consideration after we dropped by the showflat and looking at the actual site.

Nestled among HDB
- My hubby resent the idea of having the project nestled among HDB But When I asked him what abt Livia, doesn't it also has few stacks facing HDB? (we had also considered buying those units @ Livia facing HDB but the prices are not convincing though.
I asked him why not spend S$7xxpsf to get pool view than HDB view?

- Some may ask why buy OE when its location is so near HDB? As one forumers mentioned, the maintenance fees are affordable.
Believed many are probably paying the same; HDB season parking is approx. $70 per mth + the folks these days sign up for yoga, gym and etc...
No additional costs incurred. This is one of the difference between HDB n condo.

NOT Near MRT
Almost all Singaporean households drive a car now so it does not really make a difference. Further more FREE shuttle bus service to MRT.
My hubby was speechless when I pop a qn to him: "Say, we live at Livia, what will happen if it rains? Your mum gotta walk to Livia with those big plastic bags?"
Don't you feel better if she comes visit us in the comfort of shuttle bus service from mrt?

No amenities??
I told my hubby: "Elias mall has child care centre, Mac, food stalls, market, pet farms, beach and etc. Your parents will gradually feel this is the right place to settle in when they grow older each yr."

The above are only some advantages that I have time to pen down, there are more pointers I brought up to my hubby till he buys the idea to buy OE. ;)
Everything boils down to $$ and cents :2cents:

The rich will not consider this project perhaps, but for pple who are used to live within HDB estates, no big deal. Who can promise the prices of LH projects will drop? If the prices are really gearing upwards, believed OE is really worthy to buy or invest.

HDB these days priced at avg S$48xK - S$63xK for decent big sized units.
No one will be able to tell you that in yrs time, these flats will appreciate to sell higher right?

But private property is different, OE owners may still command a higher psf than the previous buy price in years since many agents claimed that the newer development at pasir ris grove area will be selling above 1xxxpsf.
If we sell realistically at minimal yield, we will not make a loss.

I think it will be an open ended discussion. Many may not agree.
To each has its own bah ~

patricia
25-11-10, 12:13
Yeah! I am back! :cool:
Hey hey! The projects i.e. NV and Livia are good and each projects have their pros n cons. There will not be any project that will please all.

In fact, I wanna buy Livia and placed offers against some units that were put on sale. But the owners either backed out or decided to jack up their asking price till I give up.

Thereafter a gf of mine whom had bought Livia talked into me to take a look at the showflat at OE after I shared my bad experience trying to up my budget every $50K to match the ever-changing crazy asking prices of Livia.

It took me sometime to convince my hubby into buying OE and below factors were taken into serious consideration after we dropped by the showflat and looking at the actual site.

Nestled among HDB
- My hubby resent the idea of having the project nestled among HDB But When I asked him what abt Livia, doesn't it also has few stacks facing HDB? (we had also considered buying those units @ Livia facing HDB but the prices are not convincing though.
I asked him why not spend S$7xxpsf to get pool view than HDB view?

- Some may ask why buy OE when its location is so near HDB? As one forumers mentioned, the maintenance fees are affordable.
Believed many are probably paying the same; HDB season parking is approx. $70 per mth + the folks these days sign up for yoga, gym and etc...
No additional costs incurred. This is one of the difference between HDB n condo.

NOT Near MRT
Almost all Singaporean households drive a car now so it does not really make a difference. Further more FREE shuttle bus service to MRT.
My hubby was speechless when I pop a qn to him: "Say, we live at Livia, what will happen if it rains? Your mum gotta walk to Livia with those big plastic bags?"
Don't you feel better if she comes visit us in the comfort of shuttle bus service from mrt?

No amenities??
I told my hubby: "Elias mall has child care centre, Mac, food stalls, market, pet farms, beach and etc. Your parents will gradually feel this is the right place to settle in when they grow older each yr."

The above are only some advantages that I have time to pen down, there are more pointers I brought up to my hubby till he buys the idea to buy OE. ;)
Everything boils down to $$ and cents :2cents:

The rich will not consider this project perhaps, but for pple who are used to live within HDB estates, no big deal. Who can promise the prices of LH projects will drop? If the prices are really gearing upwards, believed OE is really worthy to buy or invest.

HDB these days priced at avg S$48xK - S$63xK for decent big sized units.
No one will be able to tell you that in yrs time, these flats will appreciate to sell higher right?

But private property is different, OE owners may still command a higher psf than the previous buy price in years since many agents claimed that the newer development at pasir ris grove area will be selling above 1xxxpsf.
If we sell realistically at minimal yield, we will not make a loss.

I think it will be an open ended discussion. Many may not agree.
To each has its own bah ~
To each his/her view. You are really in your own world:scared-1:

propertysgp
25-11-10, 12:51
To each his/her view. You are really in your own world:scared-1:

Mr. Patricia, thank you :sleep:

acewee
25-11-10, 17:12
Yeah! I am back! :cool:
Hey hey! The projects i.e. NV and Livia are good and each projects have their pros n cons. There will not be any project that will please all.

In fact, I wanna buy Livia and placed offers against some units that were put on sale. But the owners either backed out or decided to jack up their asking price till I give up.

Thereafter a gf of mine whom had bought Livia talked into me to take a look at the showflat at OE after I shared my bad experience trying to up my budget every $50K to match the ever-changing crazy asking prices of Livia.

It took me sometime to convince my hubby into buying OE and below factors were taken into serious consideration after we dropped by the showflat and looking at the actual site.

Nestled among HDB
- My hubby resent the idea of having the project nestled among HDB But When I asked him what abt Livia, doesn't it also has few stacks facing HDB? (we had also considered buying those units @ Livia facing HDB but the prices are not convincing though.
I asked him why not spend S$7xxpsf to get pool view than HDB view?

- Some may ask why buy OE when its location is so near HDB? As one forumers mentioned, the maintenance fees are affordable.
Believed many are probably paying the same; HDB season parking is approx. $70 per mth + the folks these days sign up for yoga, gym and etc...
No additional costs incurred. This is one of the difference between HDB n condo.

NOT Near MRT
Almost all Singaporean households drive a car now so it does not really make a difference. Further more FREE shuttle bus service to MRT.
My hubby was speechless when I pop a qn to him: "Say, we live at Livia, what will happen if it rains? Your mum gotta walk to Livia with those big plastic bags?"
Don't you feel better if she comes visit us in the comfort of shuttle bus service from mrt?

No amenities??
I told my hubby: "Elias mall has child care centre, Mac, food stalls, market, pet farms, beach and etc. Your parents will gradually feel this is the right place to settle in when they grow older each yr."

The above are only some advantages that I have time to pen down, there are more pointers I brought up to my hubby till he buys the idea to buy OE. ;)
Everything boils down to $$ and cents :2cents:

The rich will not consider this project perhaps, but for pple who are used to live within HDB estates, no big deal. Who can promise the prices of LH projects will drop? If the prices are really gearing upwards, believed OE is really worthy to buy or invest.

HDB these days priced at avg S$48xK - S$63xK for decent big sized units.
No one will be able to tell you that in yrs time, these flats will appreciate to sell higher right?

But private property is different, OE owners may still command a higher psf than the previous buy price in years since many agents claimed that the newer development at pasir ris grove area will be selling above 1xxxpsf.
If we sell realistically at minimal yield, we will not make a loss.

I think it will be an open ended discussion. Many may not agree.
To each has its own bah ~

If buying for own stay, you will not regret buying O@E. Did you buy a pool facing unit?