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PN
02-02-09, 18:52
There seems to be quite a lot of young couple looking for condo to own stay. As some has already mentioned, this is a big ticket item which requires careful planning and financial considerations.

Depending on how much you earn as a couple and how much you spend, below is a table which I’ve compile based on some assumptions made as below:-
· you own a car, have one child, a maid and need to give mthly allowance to parents.
· Insurance payment is 10% of monthly household income
· the higher the mthly income, the higher the spendings
· not much cpf left after paying for the 20% downpayment for the condo. So need to top up bank installment in cash

If you buy a condo, this is what you’ll be expecting in terms of monthly expenses & savings.


Couple A
Couple B
Couple C
monthly household income


8000


12000

15000






CPF (20% cap at 4500 pax)


1600


1800

1800






Transport (Car loan, road tax, patrol)


1500


1500

1500






own expenses for 2


1500


2000

2500






Personal Insurance


800


1200

1500






Parents


500


700

1000






1 children


600


700

800






maid inc tax


700


700

700






mobile, cabletv, internet, utility bill


250


300

400






condo maintenance fee


270


270

270






Mthly income balance


550


3100

4800







Couple A has only $550 left mthly after deducting cpf and expenses above and we’ve not even consider the need to pay income tax yet.
Couple B & C has balance of $3k & $4.8k respectively. So, is this good enough?

Let’s look at couple A first, assuming they buy a condo at $700k and took a bank loan of 80% which is $560k with 2% interest. Below is a how the monthly installments will look like. Clearly, couple A is not in a very good position regardless of loan period of 15, 20 or 30yrs. They may need to let go of the car and cut down expenses. Life will be very tough for them.


Couple A





Installment
CPF
cash
% goes to Interest
15 yrs


3600


1656

1944

26%






20 yrs


2800


1656

1144

33%






30 yrs


2000


1656

344

45%









Couple B has monthly balance of $3100. Part of this can be used to service the loan. Minus the loan, there is a balance of bet 1k to 2k. However, part of this still need to service personal income tax.

Couple B & C

Installment
CPF
cash
% goes to Interest
15 yrs


3600


1890

1710

26%






20 yrs


2800


1890

910

33%






30 yrs


2000


1890

110

45%








Couple C has mthly balance of $4.8k. This is a healthy figure. After paying tax and installment, there’s still some savings.

Summary
If you are like couple A or worst, I’ll not recommend you to go for condo unless you have a huge savings or strike Toto. If you die die must stay in condo, use part of your CPF balance to reduce the loan (keep some balance for monthly installment). Cut down on personal and car expenses, look for alternative like part time cleaner instead of maid. Having said that, still very tough.

If you are couple B, you are running thin on your mthly savings. May need to cut down on other expenses. You need to save more especially in this climate.

If you are couple C. You can mange this by yourself but be prudent. You still need to save for the unpredictable future.

From the installment table, you will notice that the longer the loan term, the higher you pay for mthly installment interest. Which is the best for you? The answer is do your maths.

Hope this will generate more contributions from others and benefits everybody.

PN
02-02-09, 19:08
The table formatting doesn't appears nicely. Pls refer to the thumbnail instead.

toaler
02-02-09, 19:46
and 700k can only get you the most basic of condos in this day and age.. woohoo

august
02-02-09, 22:39
and 700k can only get you the most basic of condos in this day and age.. woohoo

some 5 room hdb in "good" areas can cost this much also :scared-3:

repanse71
03-02-09, 15:39
It's financial suicide. Enjoy now, suffer later.

Young couples should always buy direct from HDB first, enjoy the subsidy and capital appreciation. If hit income ceiling, just go "jobless" during application. How? Many ways..hehehehe...

Why?
1. enjoy the subsidy and capital appreciation.
2. HDB don't usually re-possess flat in hard times, unlike banks.
3. HDB flat shielded from creditors.
4. When saved enough for condo, make sure HDB kept for rental. Again as a safety net, see 2-3 above, and good rental yield. Personally, I could have sold my flat for $150k gain, but past 2 years, I already got back >$50k in rental. Sell or rent out? No brainer to me ...
5. Come what may, one can sell condo, can sell backside, family still got flat to fall back on.
6. Be prudent....


some 5 room hdb in "good" areas can cost this much also :scared-3: