View Full Version : The Estį (D15, Freehold, MCL Land)
esta at 1100 psf?
28-10-08, 12:35
Not all of the seller sell base on the caveats lodged. Some are still asking 1100 plus psf. Guess not urgent for them to sell.
Not urgent for the sellers to sell, not urgent for the buyers to buy. If they can hold on good for them. But for those on deffered payment plan and are hoping for better prices, it is better to cash out soon. The property market will turn UGLY after an year. Look at the falls in the stock markets around the world. The stock market is an early indicator of the economy troubles, and 2009 and 2010 will see a very deep recession.
STI at 1600 and sellers still want 1100? is that realistic? I do'nt think so. And the property market slows down with a lag after the economy slows down. First there are no transactions, as sellers want higher prices and buyers want lower prices, then it starts inching down. If SARS is any guideline to property prices, this recession is more severe that during SARS. So prices will come down, it is just a matter of how soon people accept the reality. Frakly, iif i had a property and i thought the market will turn bad, and i am sitting on a profit, i would rather sell and buy later at a lower price. But then again, thats just me.
Unregistered*
28-10-08, 12:48
Not urgent for the sellers to sell, not urgent for the buyers to buy. If they can hold on good for them. But for those on deffered payment plan and are hoping for better prices, it is better to cash out soon. The property market will turn UGLY after an year. Look at the falls in the stock markets around the world. The stock market is an early indicator of the economy troubles, and 2009 and 2010 will see a very deep recession.
STI at 1600 and sellers still want 1100? is that realistic? I do'nt think so. And the property market slows down with a lag after the economy slows down. First there are no transactions, as sellers want higher prices and buyers want lower prices, then it starts inching down. If SARS is any guideline to property prices, this recession is more severe that during SARS. So prices will come down, it is just a matter of how soon people accept the reality. Frakly, iif i had a property and i thought the market will turn bad, and i am sitting on a profit, i would rather sell and buy later at a lower price. But then again, thats just me.
Have to agree with you here. The property market generally lags 6 months behind the stock market. The stock market has taken a huge beating in the last 2 months, losing almost half its value within such a short span of time. From a business time article yesterday:
Phillip Securities Research analyst Alfred Low expects high-end property prices to fall by 15-25 per cent in the next four quarters.
Others are more bearish. Morgan Stanley analysts Melissa Bon and Brian Wee on Oct 24 took a more aggressive approach to cutting residential prices and projected that residential prices for the mid-high end segment will fall by 75 per cent for the next three years..
While I personally cannot fathom the market falling by 75%, I think a 30-40% is only a matter of time.
This really only affects those who are unable to hold on to their properties. Those who can, will. Those who can't and are still hoping to sell for higher prices will suffer the most. On the other hand, buyers who can wait will benefit the most. :)
Not urgent for the sellers to sell, not urgent for the buyers to buy. If they can hold on good for them. But for those on deffered payment plan and are hoping for better prices, it is better to cash out soon. The property market will turn UGLY after an year. Look at the falls in the stock markets around the world. The stock market is an early indicator of the economy troubles, and 2009 and 2010 will see a very deep recession.
STI at 1600 and sellers still want 1100? is that realistic? I do'nt think so. And the property market slows down with a lag after the economy slows down. First there are no transactions, as sellers want higher prices and buyers want lower prices, then it starts inching down. If SARS is any guideline to property prices, this recession is more severe that during SARS. So prices will come down, it is just a matter of how soon people accept the reality. Frakly, iif i had a property and i thought the market will turn bad, and i am sitting on a profit, i would rather sell and buy later at a lower price. But then again, thats just me.
totally agree, don't bother about all those who try to talk up the property market in this forum, prices will surely come down, and it doesn't take a genius to tell you why.
Unreg”stered
28-10-08, 12:57
totally agree, don't bother about all those who try to talk up the property market in this forum, prices will surely come down, and it doesn't take a genius to tell you why.
Are you trying to talk up the market?
Unregistered*
28-10-08, 12:57
totally agree, don't bother about all those who try to talk up the property market in this forum, prices will surely come down, and it doesn't take a genius to tell you why.
Precisely.
Reg”stered
28-10-08, 12:59
Precisely.
How about we talk down the market? Let's say it together that The Esta will be priced the same as a HDB flat? Like that there will be a lot of panic sellers. Good for us right?
Unregistered*
28-10-08, 13:09
How about we talk down the market? Let's say it together that The Esta will be priced the same as a HDB flat? Like that there will be a lot of panic sellers. Good for us right?
Why be so childish?
Why can't everybody talk and discuss like educated individuals?
As is obvious to most impartial people, there isn't a huge number of panic sellers......yet (except for the high end market). Most people expect a huge dip in property prices in 2009 and possibly 2010. I would assume the HDB market will fall in tandem as well.
I don't see the need to talk up or talk down. I prefer to discuss sensibly. :)
Unreg”stered
28-10-08, 13:12
How about we talk down the market? Let's say it together that The Esta will be priced the same as a HDB flat? Like that there will be a lot of panic sellers. Good for us right?
The Esta has the same price as a HDB flat?
What kind of HDB flat? 4-room? 5-room? Executive?
HDB flat in which area?
You have to be more specific.
A 5-room flat costs more than a 4-room flat.
A flat in Woodlands is priced differently from a flat in Queenstown.
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2008-10-25/BT_IMAGES_HDB25A.jpg
never mind one
many want the whole market to collapse
then many will be jobless , whole family will suffer
thats what many do not know on that
One die all die together
Unregistered*
28-10-08, 13:46
never mind one
many want the whole market to collapse
then many will be jobless , whole family will suffer
thats what many do not know on that
One die all die together
You can't be serious right?
I don't think anybody here wishes suffering on anyone, at least I don't.
A recession or complete collapse of the market affects everyone, me included.
But nobody can avoid the inevitable. If it happens, it happens.
Talking up or talking down isn't going to affect how the market performs, that's my point.
I've got my unit from sub sale so don't know if previous owner has upgraded or not. By the way is this an optional upgrade or a default given by the developer? In addition I'm not too sure if I've got the see through window in my kitchen, really hope it comes with it
In lieu of the clothes hanger system at no additional cost. I think most people opted for the dryer as the clothes hanger system can always be installed by the owner later at a much lower cost than the clothes dryer.
In lieu of the clothes hanger system at no additional cost. I think most people opted for the dryer as the clothes hanger system can always be installed by the owner later at a much lower cost than the clothes dryer.
clothes hanger system is much cheaper
Unregistered.
28-10-08, 15:23
Yes very likely. Because only Blk 35 is left for inspection. The other 4 blocks have already been handed over. All furnishings are also in place. TOP should be within the first 2 weeks of Nov.
I guess possibility of fire sale for most units already very slim. Let's see if the price would go up or down after TOP.
Gd Luck!
Heard some ppl use 1 Mil to buy 5 units, then wait to gain big profit through resale. so when TOP come, they need to apply loan for the unsold units. given the situation that banks all tighten the loan, they are not able to get loan, then how? fire sales? sell below develoepr's price?
How true is it?
Unreg”stered
28-10-08, 15:46
Heard some ppl use 1 Mil to buy 5 units, then wait to gain big profit through resale. so when TOP come, they need to apply loan for the unsold units. given the situation that banks all tighten the loan, they are not able to get loan, then how? fire sales? sell below develoepr's price?
How true is it?
I heard all the units were bought by only one guy.
Does he has the stomach to eat all the units?
Can't digest then how? Fire sales?
How true is it?
Unregistered.
28-10-08, 15:53
I heard all the units were bought by only one guy.
Does he has the stomach to eat all the units?
Can't digest then how? Fire sales?
How true is it?woh law! joe, is it?
I heard all the units were bought by only one guy.
Does he has the stomach to eat all the units?
Can't digest then how? Fire sales?
How true is it?
How many units are we talking about here?
Unreg”stered
28-10-08, 16:47
How many units are we talking about here?
I heard he bought 50 units.
Unregistered1234
28-10-08, 20:44
Viewed following units : sneak in
1) #04-02 : Walk into living room. From master bedroom balcony, full lap pool view. Good privacy as no one can look into your master bedroom. If you stand at master bedroom balcony, can say hello to your neighbours on stack 7. Kitchen is slightly larger than odd level 02 stack. Living room balcony is longish. Cannot place table. Maybe just chairs. Some un-useable space from entrance to living. Got bay window at main door, can sit there to wear shoes & enjoy view of Katong. Though master bedroom is west facing, will probably not get any west sun, thanks to One Amber.
2) #13-02 : Walk into balcony. Most likely will not get rain into the balcony. Penthouse is "linked" (joined by two units), providing roofing for units below. Balcony size is good for small round table with 2-4 chairs. Bigger living / dining area. Kitchen is smaller. Fridge is placed in the living area and there is an additional built in cabinet between balcony & fridge. For this unit, owner paid extra $$$ to get the kitchen walls changed to glass. Hence it appears more spacious.
After comparing #04-02 & #13-02, personally feel that walk into balcony is better layout. More workable space.
3) #05-04 : Opened windows at room facing the cross junction (facing the Nursery). Surprisingly, very minimal road noise. Layout quite similar to #04-02.
4) #21-02 : Got SEA VIEW !!!! from balcony at guest room. This means #21-01 & probably the rest of the south facing penthouses will get FULL / partial SEA VIEW....#21-02 is facing North / landed and is unblocked.
All units are very windy, especially penthouse.
Lots of greenery & carpet grass. Feel at the pool area is cosy. Side gate access is from B1 and the whole project is wheel chair friendly (even the stairs leading to side gate). Clubhouse got lift too.
All units have built in shoe rack outside the main door. Lift lobby also nice.
Bedrooms are generally more spacious than Seaview. Master bedroom is good size. Better than Cote DAzur / Belvedere.
Finishing is also good. Those who opt for dryer will not get the clothes hanger system.
Private function organised by MCL for owners of Esta is 2 weeks away.
Got any pictures to show?
Viewed following units : sneak in
Private function organised by MCL for owners of Esta is 2 weeks away.
Wah..So good:cheers1: still got private function by MCL?:cool:
Bro,you mean Esta master bedroom is bigger than my bel MBR?mine is consider quite standard size & slightly bigger than my bro's Seaview MBR.in my opinion,seaview MBR is consider very small liao.only the balcony fancy me.hehe:)
When TOP liao,can arrange for a pleasure viewing?;)
All the best for your sales.
cheers
Viewed following units : sneak in
After comparing #04-02 & #13-02, personally feel that walk into balcony is better layout. More workable space.
#21-02 : Got SEA VIEW !!!! from balcony at guest room. This means #21-01 & probably the rest of the south facing penthouses will get FULL / partial SEA VIEW....#21-02 is facing North / landed and is unblocked.
All units are very windy, especially penthouse.
Private function organised by MCL for owners of Esta is 2 weeks away.
Yes, walk-in balcony can put table and chair comfortably, living room balcony would be difficult, but can try
#21-01 confirm have
Even if you walk around at ground floor it is windy
Private function this Friday? All blocks handed over. TOP
Unregistered1234
30-10-08, 08:07
Yes, walk-in balcony can put table and chair comfortably, living room balcony would be difficult, but can try
#21-01 confirm have
Even if you walk around at ground floor it is windy
Private function this Friday? All blocks handed over. TOP
Since it's already TOP does that mean I could go in to visit ESTA this weekend?
Real Estate Pundit
30-10-08, 09:42
Another week has pass and only 3 NEW caveats lodged between 10 Oct 08 to 17 Oct 08.
Unit___Size, sqft__$psf___Total_______Contract date
18-0X__1313_____895___$1,175,135__16 Oct 08
10-0X__1313_____915___$1,201,395__13 Oct 08
11-0X__1001_____968___$969,000____10 Oct 08
10-1X__1173_____925___$1,085,000__06 Oct 08
16-1X__1173_____938___$1,100,000__06 Oct 08
14-0X__1313_____850___$1,116,050__06 Oct 08
20-0X__1313_____849___$1,116,000__03 Oct 08
12-0X__1475_____905___$1,334,875__30 Sep 08
14-0X__1130_____916___$1,035,000__29 Sep 08
10-0X__1001_____959___$960,000___ 25 Sep 08
20-1X__1313_____890___$1,168,000__25 Sep 08
07-0X__1130_____890___$1,005,700__24 Sep 08
11-1X__1346_____906___$1,220,000__19 Sep 08
08-0X__1475_____868___$1,280,000__17 Sep 08
05-0X__1464_____830___$1,215,120__01 Sep 08
03-1X__1313_____800___$1,050,400__01 Sep 08
21-0X__2368_____1132__$2,680,000__22 Aug 08
10-0X__1130_____925___$1,045,250__19 Aug 08
11-0X__1346_____936___$1,260,000__18 Aug 08
13-0X__1346_____929___$1,250,000__15 Aug 08
11-1X__1173_____936___$1,098,000__11 Aug 08
12-1X__1173_____912___$1,070,000__01 Aug 08
15-04__1313_____855___$1,122,615__14 Jul 08
19-07__1346_____1000__$1,346,000__14 Jul 08
14-09__1399_____926___$1,295,000__09 Jul 08
10-12__1346_____877___$1,180,000__08 Jul 08
13-11__1593_____929___$1,480,000__07 Jul 08
19-20__1561_____974___$1,520,000__27 Jun 08
10-11__1561_____955___$1,490,755__24 Jun 08
Is it true that The Esta has received its TOP status? I'm the first owner of a unit in this development but have not received any notification from the developer's solicitors.
Is it true that The Esta has received its TOP status? I'm the first owner of a unit in this development but have not received any notification from the developer's solicitors.
The developer's solicitors should be sending out soon. You can call up MCL land to double confirm on the date.
Come out Novena dumbass, come out... stop hiding here :D
Unregistered1234
30-10-08, 21:28
The developer's solicitors should be sending out soon. You can call up MCL land to double confirm on the date.
MCL wrote back to me yesterday. They just said TOP is in November.
learninginprogress
30-10-08, 22:31
Just went into Esta to take a look yesterday night. The guard said keys will be handed over during 2nd week of NOV. So for the lucky owners, tt's pretty soon.
The lobby area is beautiful with bamboo plants and water features. The pool area is nicely built as well. As the activity area is elevated, it was really windy and gives the secluded serene feel when I was there. The area felt quite spacious surprisingly and blocks are not as close to each other as perceived from outside. Good place to relax after a long day. The clubhouse is also double storey with a lift leading directly up to a roof garden.
However, I feel that the drive-thru entrance at guardhouse is quite cramp and narrow. There is also only one narrow entrance to the carpark/lobby area so that might pose some traffic problem during peak hours.
Esta Owner
30-10-08, 22:42
There is also only one narrow entrance to the carpark/lobby area so that might pose some traffic problem during peak hours.
Personally would think a mirror at the bend of the car park entrance would help to make it safer to drive.
Unregistered1234
30-10-08, 23:01
Just went into Esta to take a look yesterday night. The guard said keys will be handed over during 2nd week of NOV. So for the lucky owners, tt's pretty soon.
The lobby area is beautiful with bamboo plants and water features. The pool area is nicely built as well. As the activity area is elevated, it was really windy and gives the secluded serene feel when I was there. The area felt quite spacious surprisingly and blocks are not as close to each other as perceived from outside. Good place to relax after a long day. The clubhouse is also double storey with a lift leading directly up to a roof garden.
However, I feel that the drive-thru entrance at guardhouse is quite cramp and narrow. There is also only one narrow entrance to the carpark/lobby area so that might pose some traffic problem during peak hours.
HOw you manage to get in? Did the guard let you in?
learninginprogress
30-10-08, 23:05
I had tried to get in a few times before and the guard always rejected me say still got work in progress .... But this time, think going to TOP soon liao, and he rejected me so many times, so i guess he paiseh let me in to see for awhile.
Unregistered321
02-11-08, 01:10
Where's Joe? long time didn't see him here. And this D15 thread is kind of death nowadays. What happen? All bz? Dun have even a single minute per day to post something here? sigh.......................
Unregistered1234
02-11-08, 11:03
Market must have been kind of slow nowadays the rest of the forum also very little activities.
Unregistered321
02-11-08, 11:27
Market must have been kind of slow nowadays the rest of the forum also very little activities.
Yup, agree. It's so cold here. Empty feeling.
Unregistered11
02-11-08, 14:19
Is it true that a unit got sold at 780psf recently?
Where's Joe? long time didn't see him here. And this D15 thread is kind of death nowadays. What happen? All bz? Dun have even a single minute per day to post something here? sigh.......................
Hey, recently there's a propnex agent been murdered. Talking about joe, think he kena murdered too? So many days didn't see his posting. Something strange......
Unregistered.
03-11-08, 09:03
I had tried to get in a few times before and the guard always rejected me say still got work in progress .... But this time, think going to TOP soon liao, and he rejected me so many times, so i guess he paiseh let me in to see for awhile.
Hi, have you managed to take some photos? kind to share with us? thanks a lot!
Unregistered?
03-11-08, 12:56
Is it true that a unit got sold at 780psf recently?
no lah, must be the original developer's price lah... So far the lowest in URA website is only 800 psf. no many transcation in Oct leh...
THE ESTA AMBER GARDENS Condominium 1 1,175,135 1,313 895 Oct-08
THE ESTA AMBER GARDENS Condominium 1 1,201,395 1,313 915 Oct-08
THE ESTA AMBER GARDENS Condominium 1 969,000 1,001 968 Oct-08
THE ESTA AMBER GARDENS Condominium 1 1,116,050 1,313 850 Oct-08
THE ESTA AMBER GARDENS Condominium 1 1,100,000 1,173 938 Oct-08
THE ESTA AMBER GARDENS Condominium 1 1,085,000 1,173 925 Oct-08
THE ESTA AMBER GARDENS Condominium 1 1,050,400 1,313 800 Sep-08
learninginprogress
03-11-08, 14:45
Hi, have you managed to take some photos? kind to share with us? thanks a lot!
Nope, unfortunately it was not a planned trip. And I din have my camera HP with me. From what i was told, keys will be handed over next week. Lets be patient and we can all go view it and see if we like it.
Wandering where's Joe?never hear from him for the past week?:sleep:
Is The Estį a crap project?
Something that should sell cheaper than a D19 99LH project, say KR?
Is The Estį a crap project?
Something that should sell cheaper than a D19 99LH project, say KR?
before u quote a crap project
make sure u can afford it first
Nope, unfortunately it was not a planned trip. And I din have my camera HP with me. From what i was told, keys will be handed over next week. Lets be patient and we can all go view it and see if we like it.
I very much doubt keys will be handled over next week. I spoke to my lawyer last Friday. He hasn't heard from the developer about TOP payment. Isn't it the procedure to pay first before the developer will hand over the keys? And the lawyer will take some time to process the payment.
learninginprogress
03-11-08, 21:16
I very much doubt keys will be handled over next week. I spoke to my lawyer last Friday. He hasn't heard from the developer about TOP payment. Isn't it the procedure to pay first before the developer will hand over the keys? And the lawyer will take some time to process the payment.
Hmm, tt is wad i was told. But seems like no one got any letters yet too, maybe i was given wrong info.
Dun worry... am sure MCL will send you guys the letter really soon as they are also looking to TOP this project asap else they will not get their money from their project account too. Lawyer likewise will get all necessary paperworks done up asap too. it may be pretty soon that most of you will start to hear from developer and your lawyer too.
:)
Pet
Unregistered.
04-11-08, 08:06
Wandering where's Joe?never hear from him for the past week?:sleep:
Does this answer your question? Joe = gone, the con man has gone away with wind....
you are totally cheated by that big mouth agent joe lah! the unit size is 3122 sqft, so the asking price is 2M! go to see the OA tread, you can see a lot of angry post towards to that silly joe.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php?t=758&page=14
Joe6816 is a GONE case lah!
East Lover
04-11-08, 14:44
Construction progress for all blocks as at the end of August 2008. Progress status updated bi-monthly. The next update will be in mid-November 2008. Click on thumbnail for full picture.
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Items
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Foundation Work
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Reinforced Concrete Framework
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Brick Walls
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Ceilings
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Doors and Windows Frames
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6
Car Park, Roads and Drains
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TOP Issued
http://203.142.19.176/images/progress-in-prog.gif
http://www.mclland.com.sg/images/The_Esta_20080916_big_1.jpg
http://www.mclland.com.sg/images/The_Esta_20080916_big_2.jpg
http://www.mclland.com.sg/images/The_Esta_20080916_big_3.jpg
Does this answer your question? Joe = gone, the con man has gone away with wind....
Tat wind has taken me back.:)
Wandering where's Joe?never hear from him for the past week?:sleep:
Hi Bro, I'm back. Went for a trip to Myanmar. Country side, no access to IT stuff. Just lots of pure air. How's things? Heard someone think I kena murder? :D
Hey, recently there's a propnex agent been murdered. Talking about joe, think he kena murdered too? So many days didn't see his posting. Something strange......
Murdered? Nearly, in Myanmar.
Hi Bro, I'm back. Went for a trip to Myanmar. Country side, no access to IT stuff. Just lots of pure air. How's things? Heard someone think I kena murder? :D
Wah.You went for holiday?:)
o well is common to be murder here right?
Wah.You went for holiday?:)
Short trip. To enjoy some fresh air. I just love the country side there. Went alone, not really holiday. Just to escape city life for a while. :)
o well is common to be murder here right?
haha. Well, true. People murder people here everyday.
haha. Well, true. People murder people here everyday.
in this market , people will start to murder one another
not to mention people who dont even know u
is a sign of destress ya
people murder or flame u , u just treat that they trying to
destress themselves will do
Dont get too emotional
in this market , people will start to murder one another
not to mention people who dont even know u
is a sign of destress ya
people murder or flame u , u just treat that they trying to
destress themselves will do
Dont get too emotional
Agree. Don't have to bring them to your bed and ponder with tat when you sleep. :sleep:
Agree. Don't have to bring them to your bed and ponder with tat when you sleep. :sleep:
yep yep
dun let anyone stop you from doing what you
want to do
As long u think is right , just go ahead and do it
u only answer to your God
thats all
high floor
06-11-08, 17:39
Does anyone know if this recent transaction is for a high floor or low floor unit?
THE ESTA AMBER GARDENS Condominium 1 1,090,260 1,346 810 Oct-08
Does anyone know if this recent transaction is for a high floor or low floor unit?
THE ESTA AMBER GARDENS Condominium 1 1,090,260 1,346 810 Oct-08
Low floor unit
Unregistered1234
08-11-08, 09:35
Saw in the paper today that some units already have their keys collected. Does that mean the condo is free to enter now for visit? Can anyone confirm.
Saw in the paper today that some units already have their keys collected. Does that mean the condo is free to enter now for visit? Can anyone confirm.
Yup, confirmed. My seller has passed me her key already
Unregistered1234
08-11-08, 14:34
Yup, confirmed. My seller has passed me her key already
Ok I go visit later.
Now that people can visit the actual site I'll bet that sales of Esta will pick up again
Ok I go visit later.
Now that people can visit the actual site I'll bet that sales of Esta will pick up again
Lol.. still waiting to drop below 800psf
Unregistered1234
08-11-08, 18:37
Lol.. still waiting to drop below 800psf
I think it already did, if you are not too fussy about facing you just might get one. Good luck.
Unregistered1234
08-11-08, 18:38
Yup, confirmed. My seller has passed me her key already
Wau lau just went down this afternoon still cannot go in although TOP liao. Was told that next week will be official opening.
I think it already did, if you are not too fussy about facing you just might get one. Good luck.
I am considering one primarily for investment, time is not a factor. It is about getting at the right price :)
Wau lau just went down this afternoon still cannot go in although TOP liao. Was told that next week will be official opening.
I was there at 4pm. Wat time u went? Same, can't go in:tsk-tsk: next week bab. Told e guard 'I be back':spliff:
Lol.. still waiting to drop below 800psf
You mean $860psf, the lowest psf?
Why D19?
Why 99-leasehold?
Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of September 2008
Project Name ..... Locality . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Kovan Residences . OCR ....... 4 ............................... 964 ................ 940 ............... 860
Wow!
KR has just broken August record high of $954psf with this new record high of $964psf.
Bravo!
juz went to see Esta just now....walked round the premise....very nice! more spacious than i expected
blk 39 and blk 33 very wide apart. pool is considered big......esta is a good buy!
NUnregistered
09-11-08, 21:59
juz went to see Esta just now....walked round the premise....very nice! more spacious than i expected
agreed. nice and spacious layout.
juz went to see Esta just now....walked round the premise....very nice! more spacious than i expected
blk 39 and blk 33 very wide apart. pool is considered big......esta is a good buy!
agreed. nice and spacious layout.
See, told your so many times Esta is nice. Good buy for the price.
Unregistered1234
09-11-08, 22:06
See, told your so many times Esta is nice. Good buy for the price.
Dont con people into buying, price may slide further, more likely WILL. No doubt it is nice and price is reasonable now.. but market trend is against it.
Dont con people into buying, price may slide further, more likely WILL. No doubt it is nice and price is reasonable now.. but market trend is against it.
People buy for their reasons. SS also there's people buying, u mean they are also being con to buy SS?
i like the mist garden also...makes the whole environment cooling in our humid weather. for those who bought esta, enjoy your stay there!!!hopefully can shift in before CNY.....can do housewarming also......Yippie!
Esta_Owner
09-11-08, 22:18
Dont con people into buying, price may slide further, more likely WILL. No doubt it is nice and price is reasonable now.. but market trend is against it.
Haha, classic sour grapes, go buy HDB then.
Unregistered1234
09-11-08, 22:18
hahahahaha.. i see. Must be a agent.
i like the mist garden also...makes the whole environment cooling in our humid weather. for those who bought esta, enjoy your stay there!!!hopefully can shift in before CNY.....can do housewarming also......Yippie!
hahahahaha.. i see. Must be a agent.
Quote:
Originally Posted by snow
i like the mist garden also...makes the whole environment cooling in our humid weather. for those who bought esta, enjoy your stay there!!!hopefully can shift in before CNY.....can do housewarming also......Yippie!
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me no agent. not everyone here is agent ok.
i bought esta to stay!
hahahahaha.. i see. Must be a agent.
Take a look at D16-Bleu @ East Coast thread. All agents talking to themselves? All post by agents?
hahahahaha.. i see. Must be a agent.
Quote:
Originally Posted by snow
i like the mist garden also...makes the whole environment cooling in our humid weather. for those who bought esta, enjoy your stay there!!!hopefully can shift in before CNY.....can do housewarming also......Yippie!
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me no agent. not everyone here is agent ok.
i bought esta to stay!
Snow, move on. Forget about this guy. So u gotten your key? The guard let u in today?
hi, just like to confirm, has The Esta TOP? I've not received any notification from developer :(
hi, just like to confirm, has The Esta TOP? I've not received any notification from developer :(
Inspection all done and passed. Now just waiting for TOP to be issue. Should be this coming week.
Snow, move on. Forget about this guy. So u gotten your key? The guard let u in today?
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:) i went yesterday. guard say cannot go in. hinted to go on sun (tonite) at 8.30pm....i guess it's his beer time....
when i was there just, no guard around, so walked in lor. like having tour.
hi, just like to confirm, has The Esta TOP? I've not received any notification from developer :(
One of my seller had collected her key and it's with me.
:) i went yesterday. guard say cannot go in. hinted to go on sun (tonite) at 8.30pm....i guess it's his beer time....
when i was there just, no guard around, so walked in lor. like having tour.
I was there yesterday and today too. Same, can't get in. The last time I sneak in, when e guard wasn't around. Think his beer time too.:)
wow, lucky seller.... can keys be issued even before the TOP is issued? I'm anxiously waiting for TOP as I'd like to move in before CNY.
Unregistered1234
09-11-08, 22:33
Snow, move on. Forget about this guy. So u gotten your key? The guard let u in today?
hahahaha, Joe must be snow. snow must be joe. why talking to yourself ???
wow, lucky seller.... can keys be issued even before the TOP is issued? I'm anxiously waiting for TOP as I'd like to move in before CNY.
Not lucky but 'special' seller. Tat's why she's the first to collect the key. Guess it's going to TOP real soon, so by Xmas also might make it.
One of my seller had collected her key and it's with me.
Joe, how's the overall layout of the units and the landscaping? I'm really excited to the see the development soon. We got a high sea facing unit, ns facing... excited to see how the actual unit compares with that of the showflat.
Joe, how's the overall layout of the units and the landscaping? I'm really excited to the see the development soon. We got a high sea facing unit, ns facing... excited to see how the actual unit compares with that of the showflat.
Report from my last sneak in
Originally Posted by Joe6816
Viewed following units : sneak in
1) #04-02 : Walk into living room. From master bedroom balcony, full lap pool view. Good privacy as no one can look into your master bedroom. If you stand at master bedroom balcony, can say hello to your neighbours on stack 7. Kitchen is slightly larger than odd level 02 stack. Living room balcony is longish. Cannot place table. Maybe just chairs. Some un-useable space from entrance to living. Got bay window at main door, can sit there to wear shoes & enjoy view of Katong. Though master bedroom is west facing, will probably not get any west sun, thanks to One Amber.
2) #13-02 : Walk into balcony. Most likely will not get rain into the balcony. Penthouse is "linked" (joined by two units), providing roofing for units below. Balcony size is good for small round table with 2-4 chairs. Bigger living / dining area. Kitchen is smaller. Fridge is placed in the living area and there is an additional built in cabinet between balcony & fridge. For this unit, owner paid extra $$$ to get the kitchen walls changed to glass. Hence it appears more spacious.
After comparing #04-02 & #13-02, personally feel that walk into balcony is better layout. More workable space.
3) #05-04 : Opened windows at room facing the cross junction (facing the Nursery). Surprisingly, very minimal road noise. Layout quite similar to #04-02.
4) #21-02 : Got SEA VIEW !!!! from balcony at guest room. This means #21-01 & probably the rest of the south facing penthouses will get FULL / partial SEA VIEW....#21-02 is facing North / landed and is unblocked.
All units are very windy, especially penthouse.
Lots of greenery & carpet grass. Feel at the pool area is cosy. Side gate access is from B1 and the whole project is wheel chair friendly (even the stairs leading to side gate). Clubhouse got lift too.
All units have built in shoe rack outside the main door. Lift lobby also nice.
Bedrooms are generally more spacious than Seaview. Master bedroom is good size. Better than Cote DAzur / Belvedere.
Finishing is also good. Those who opt for dryer will not get the clothes hanger system.
Joe, how's the overall layout of the units and the landscaping? I'm really excited to the see the development soon. We got a high sea facing unit, ns facing... excited to see how the actual unit compares with that of the showflat.
Which stack is your unit?
stack 04 (my brother's unit) and stack 12 (my unit)
Unregistered1234
09-11-08, 22:46
Haha, classic sour grapes, go buy HDB then.
YES SIR !! upgrader. Congrats.
thought haven collect key, i even when up to my unit. the stairsway is made of metal.....find it weird cos most ppty use concrete stairs.
stack 04 (my brother's unit) and stack 12 (my unit)
I see, if u dun mind maybe can me to have a look from your stack cause I been long believe tat stack have some seaview.:)
I can show you other stack too, those facing mountbatton road
thought haven collect key, i even when up to my unit. the stairsway is made of metal.....find it weird cos most ppty use concrete stairs.
Metal is cheaper.
Dont con people into buying, price may slide further, more likely WILL. No doubt it is nice and price is reasonable now.. but market trend is against it.
Nooooo dun tempt me.. lol
I do agree that prices might slide after Q4 or probably hover around the same level.. will wait to see if there's any good deals :)
Should post some photos to show us how "spacious" it is and make non-esta owners drool
thought haven collect key, i even when up to my unit. the stairsway is made of metal.....find it weird cos most ppty use concrete stairs.
I be going in again soon. Hope this time can make it in during the day
Nooooo dun tempt me.. lol
I do agree that prices might slide after Q4 or probably hover around the same level.. will wait to see if there's any good deals :)
Should post some photos to show us how "spacious" it is and make non-esta owners drool
to me it is spacious becos when i bought the unit, soley based on floor plan and site plan. hard to visualise and imagine the actual site and distance.
my unit is in front of pool so main concern is my unit too close to the blk in front. but after seeing the actual site, my worry is unfounded.
i can't speak to other owners feedback when they see. overall it is a reasonable distance blk to blk.
Unregistered1234
10-11-08, 08:22
I be going in again soon. Hope this time can make it in during the day
Joe try going in from the side gate. Went there on Saturday and it's not lock. Good luck and give us some good pics, oh pls wear like a contractor.
Joe try going in from the side gate. Went there on Saturday and it's not lock. Good luck and give us some good pics, oh pls wear like a contractor.
haha, I did tat once. Wearing a white helmet and went into the sail without being check, the guard even said hi to me. I try again, this time wear yellow boots
One of my seller had collected her key and it's with me.
Joe, Are you bull-shitting? I guess a lot of people on this forum are bull-shitting as well. I just called MCL Land and told them I heard some buyers had gotten their keys. They said they have NOT given out any keys. Nor have they sent out any letters on TOP, though this could be soon and will be done in batches given that it's a large project of 400 units.
Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 11:30
Joe, Are you bull-shitting? I guess a lot of people on this forum are bull-shitting as well. I just called MCL Land and told them I heard some buyers had gotten their keys. They said they have NOT given out any keys. Nor have they sent out any letters on TOP, though this could be soon and will be done in batches given that it's a large project of 400 units.
It's common. I believe some 'owners' had gotten their keys. By some means. The rest of normal owners will be later. Already saw in Sat classified there are agents tat adv open house and key obtained.
Unregistered2
10-11-08, 12:40
Joe, Are you bull-shitting? I guess a lot of people on this forum are bull-shitting as well. I just called MCL Land and told them I heard some buyers had gotten their keys. They said they have NOT given out any keys. Nor have they sent out any letters on TOP, though this could be soon and will be done in batches given that it's a large project of 400 units.
I agree. I contacted MCL Land too and was informed that the condo has not TOP. No keys have been issued to any owners. I wonder how the sellers actually received their keys... isn't it strange that the agents have already received the keys from the sellers when the developer has not given out the keys?
Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 12:52
I agree. I contacted MCL Land too and was informed that the condo has not TOP. No keys have been issued to any owners. I wonder how the sellers actually received their keys... isn't it strange that the agents have already received the keys from the sellers when the developer has not given out the keys?
I also feel strange, maybe you can call up those agents tat adv on Sat to find out which unit had obtained key and when is the open house. I checked with my lawyer too. No news on the key collection. Any kind soul can advice.
I also feel strange, maybe you can call up those agents tat adv on Sat to find out which unit had obtained key and when is the open house. I checked with my lawyer too. No news on the key collection. Any kind soul can advice.
Joe is playing pranks in this forum.
Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 15:54
Joe is playing pranks in this forum.
I just called up an agent tat adv 'key obtained' on Sat papers. He told me yes, his owner also gotten the key. This weekend might be able to view. Gave him my number to call me back. Will go take a look. Guess really true, some owners already gotten keys.(maybe air force one)
Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 16:06
Yes very likely. Because only Blk 35 is left for inspection. The other 4 blocks have already been handed over. All furnishings are also in place. TOP should be within the first 2 weeks of Nov.
I guess possibility of fire sale for most units already very slim. Let's see if the price would go up or down after TOP.
Gd Luck!
Hi, bro. This week is the 2nd week of Nov. Guess TOP really on the way. Btw which is your unit? Mine is pool facing, 3 room, B2 layout
Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 16:33
Dun worry... am sure MCL will send you guys the letter really soon as they are also looking to TOP this project asap else they will not get their money from their project account too. Lawyer likewise will get all necessary paperworks done up asap too. it may be pretty soon that most of you will start to hear from developer and your lawyer too.
:)
Pet
Pet, you know when is the TOP for Esta. Heard some owners collected keys, what's your view on this? Is it true?
tat joker agent
10-11-08, 16:33
I just called up an agent tat adv 'key obtained' on Sat papers. He told me yes, his owner also gotten the key. This weekend might be able to view. Gave him my number to call me back. Will go take a look. Guess really true, some owners already gotten keys.(maybe air force one)
If already collected key, u r keen buyer, they'll want u to go view and buy IMMEDIATELY lor.why wait till next week? economy/market so good huh, must queue for 1 week to view and buy???. All these are just those joker agt tat wanna fool buyers, get yr contact then harrass u when they collected keys in 1-2 weeks time. If established developer like MCL land dare to issue keys without even TOP issued, good luck and all the best to them to face the consequences...
Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 16:40
If already collected key, u r keen buyer, they'll want u to go view and buy IMMEDIATELY lor.why wait till next week? economy/market so good huh, must queue for 1 week to view and buy???. All these are just those joker agt tat wanna fool buyers, get yr contact then harrass u when they collected keys in 1-2 weeks time. If established developer like MCL land dare to issue keys without even TOP issued, good luck and all the best to them to face the consequences...
Anyway TOP is just really the corner. Doesn't matters to me much. I just want to move in by Xmas and enjoy a good BBQ on tat night. Can imagine how nice would tat be.
Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 16:45
To the rest of Esta Owners, just keep this link
http://www.mclland.com.sg/customercare/page.asp?aid=114
Anyway TOP is just really the corner. Doesn't matters to me much. I just want to move in by Xmas and enjoy a good BBQ on tat night. Can imagine how nice would tat be.
yes, i agreed. hopefully move in b4 xmas and enjoy the stay.......already waited so long, what is another 1-2 weeks? that is something to look forward to year end!
Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 16:52
yes, i agreed. hopefully move in b4 xmas and enjoy the stay.......already waited so long, what is another 1-2 weeks? that is something to look forward to year end!
Thumbs up! Totally agree, let's make peace not war here. We owners want is to exchange information and views. What is another 2 week of waiting. Got keys now so what, can't move in. Wait loh. Already wait for 2 years plus what is 2 weeks.
Unregistered@@
10-11-08, 16:54
yes, i agreed. hopefully move in b4 xmas and enjoy the stay.......already waited so long, what is another 1-2 weeks? that is something to look forward to year end!
joe, why are you talking to yourself again?
Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 17:02
joe, why are you talking to yourself again?
Again another spoiler here. Get lost!!!
Thumbs up! Totally agree, let's make peace not war here. We owners want is to exchange information and views. What is another 2 week of waiting. Got keys now so what, can't move in. Wait loh. Already wait for 2 years plus what is 2 weeks.
:) when i was inside esta last nite, din feel much breeze.....hopefully will be windy environment to be another plus point for esta owners.
the pool is quite impressive..like olypmic size..i currently stay at another condo, the pool weird shape, more for playing in the water than swimming.
at nite, the environm is quite romantic......good for couples also....Yah!!!
joe, why are you talking to yourself again?
He has split personalities!
Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 18:17
:) when i was inside esta last nite, din feel much breeze.....hopefully will be windy environment to be another plus point for esta owners.
the pool is quite impressive..like olypmic size..i currently stay at another condo, the pool weird shape, more for playing in the water than swimming.
at nite, the environm is quite romantic......good for couples also....Yah!!!
Romantic? maybe 10years ago we were, mother of 2 already
Romantic? maybe 10years ago we were, mother of 2 already
hahaha....i am mother of 1 now......still can be romantic!!!!
Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 18:31
hahaha....i am mother of 1 now......still can be romantic!!!!
I see, tat's nice. My hubby just care about EPL and nothing more, tat's his life. He's trying to get my 2 boys to play soccer with him. So the 3 of them are all about soccer everyday. Keke
I see, tat's nice. My hubby just care about EPL and nothing more, tat's his life. He's trying to get my 2 boys to play soccer with him. So the 3 of them are all about soccer everyday. Keke
Hi Esta_Owner, let me know when u collect keys, we can catch up when shifted in. Hurray, u are my 1st neighbour i know!
Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 18:36
Hi Esta_Owner, let me know when u collect keys, we can catch up when shifted in. Hurray, u are my 1st neighbour i know!
No problem. We keep in touch.
Unreg”stered
10-11-08, 21:44
Women chatting! This is cool!
Esta Owner
10-11-08, 23:35
Hi, bro. This week is the 2nd week of Nov. Guess TOP really on the way. Btw which is your unit? Mine is pool facing, 3 room, B2 layout
Lawyer called. Project received TOP notice today. But my unit is not ready for key collection yet? Not in the first batch perhaps. :) I wonder if the BBQ pit would be ready for booking soon. Would want to have BBQ there for this Christmas.
Just walked in again to the condo just now. Had wanted to go to basement car park see see, saw worker in towel LOL, think just bathed. Mine is B3 layout. Today it isn't as windy as the first time I went.
Esta Owner
10-11-08, 23:43
I see, if u dun mind maybe can me to have a look from your stack cause I been long believe tat stack have some seaview.:)
I can show you other stack too, those facing mountbatton road
You can see stack 4,1 and master bedroom window for stack 3 from East Coast Park at the area facing Silver Sea Site (Somewhere near a small bridge over a monsoon drain). Now got sea view, not too sure next time once Silver Sea is up still got or not. :)
Esta Owner
10-11-08, 23:54
You can see stack 4,1 and master bedroom window for stack 3 from East Coast Park at the area facing Silver Sea Site (Somewhere near a small bridge over a monsoon drain). Now got sea view, not too sure next time once Silver Sea is up still got or not. :)
And I am referring to high floor units, think floor 17 and above bah. And the master bedroom window is the side window.
Esta Owner
11-11-08, 00:41
And I am referring to high floor units, think floor 17 and above bah. And the master bedroom window is the side window.
It's somewhere at point A
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11-11-08, 00:42
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Esta Owner
11-11-08, 00:46
Dunno how to post the link.
Anyways, stack 12, think should be able to see also. If you take the underpass near KFC, you'll be able to see one of the stacks (12 i think).... ;P
Unreg”stered
11-11-08, 12:59
To the rest of Esta Owners, just keep this link
http://www.mclland.com.sg/customercare/page.asp?aid=114
Cool! Thanks.
Got a call from my lawyer before lunch. TOP letter was received this morning.
Reg”stered
11-11-08, 13:25
The Esta has the same price as a HDB flat?
What kind of HDB flat? 4-room? 5-room? Executive?
HDB flat in which area?
You have to be more specific.
A 5-room flat costs more than a 4-room flat.
A flat in Woodlands is priced differently from a flat in Queenstown.
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2008-10-25/BT_IMAGES_HDB25A.jpg
Hello!
HDB flat is hot property nowaday.
Everybody is rushing to buy HDB flat.
Look at these expensive DBSS flats!
500 buyers are eyeing 480 units so far.
Pay more attention to HDB flats!
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporebusinessnews/view/388925/1/.html
Demand for and prices of public housing flats expected to stay resilient
By Wong Siew Ying, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 10 November 2008 2054 hrs
SINGAPORE : The demand for and prices of public housing flats are expected to remain fairly resilient despite the economic downturn. Market watchers said this applies to both resale and new units.
Close to 9,000 people have visited the Natura Loft showflat since it was launched for sale on October 31.
Its developer, Qingjian Realty, has already received 500 applications, mostly for four-room units there. But only 480 units are being offered, and these are going for between S$450 and S$570 per square foot.
Sales will close on November 15 and Qingjian expects demand for the new flats to be robust. Natura Loft is the Housing and Development Board's fourth condo-style public housing project.
Similarly, interest for public resale flats has not slowed. Property agents said the number of viewings for resale units jumped by 15 per cent in the last six weeks.
Eric Cheng, executive director, HSR Property Consultants, said: "I did an interview with one of the consumers, they were sharing with me that 'In today's market, I don't know how long my job will last, so to safeguard, I would rather go for subsidised (a) house, that is HDB, because how low could HDB go, HDB houses always will have a valuation to support the base value of the units'."
Market watchers expect prices of resale flats to grow by about 4 per cent in the fourth quarter, slightly slower than the third quarter - which saw a 4.2 per cent growth.
ERA real estate agency projects price growth in the HDB resale flats segment to be at between 15 and 17 per cent for the whole of 2008. And it also said it is going to be a buyer's market for now, due to the challenging economic conditions.
Eugene Lim, associate director, ERA Asia Pacific, said: "Most of the buyers will start their negotiations at below valuation... by and large, most of the deals are pretty realistic nowadays, and cash over valuation very rarely will be more than S$40,000 to S$50,000. ... the days of S$100,000 or S$120,000 cash over valuation... are over."
Market players said the outlook for Singapore's property sector may be hazy in the short term, but the prospects still look bright beyond 2010. They said that is because Singapore has plans in place that will help to create jobs and boost the economy. - CNA/ms
Dream On!!
11-11-08, 14:35
Dream on! The days of HDB selling above valuation is over.
The report and URA index is always one quarter behind. HDB transactions now are at below valuations. Furthermore, the current valuations has also come down from its peak from the 2nd Quarter 2008 valuation.
Unregistered .
11-11-08, 16:00
Construction progress for all blocks as at the end of August 2008.
http://www.mclland.com.sg/images/The_Esta_20080916_big_1.jpg
http://www.mclland.com.sg/images/The_Esta_20080916_big_2.jpg
http://www.mclland.com.sg/images/The_Esta_20080916_big_3.jpg
Any one has the latest photos? Joe? Snow?
Unreg”stered
11-11-08, 16:23
Dream on! The days of HDB selling above valuation is over.
The report and URA index is always one quarter behind. HDB transactions now are at below valuations. Furthermore, the current valuations has also come down from its peak from the 2nd Quarter 2008 valuation.
We strongly support you.
It's time for a change!
It's time to prove that SM is wrong and you are right!
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/388725/1/.html
MM Lee believes property values will continue to rise in long term
By Pearl Forss, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 09 November 2008 2341 hrs
SINGAPORE: VIPs including Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew had the chance to tour The Pinnacle@Duxton on Sunday, and they were impressed by what they saw.
All seven blocks at The Pinnacle are linked by sky-bridges.
On the top-most 50th storey is a sky garden with breathtaking views of the cityscape. HDB names it "The Contemplative Zone".
On the 26th storey, there is an 800-metre long jogging track as well as fitness centres.
The Pinnacle has the highest HDB blocks in Singapore. Prices are similarly high for late buyers.
When it went on sale in 2004, 4-room flats cost $288,400 to $392,100 and 5-roomers cost $343,100 to $451,100.
428 units were offered for sale in September 2008, and this time 4-room flats cost $450,000 to $550,000 while 5-room flats cost $550,000 to over $600,000.
The Pinnacle has 1,848 units in total.
HDB says the flats still cost less than what nearby flats are fetching on the resale market.
5-room flats in the vicinity cost $593,000 to $670,000.
Minister Mentor Lee said property values are bound to go up in the long run because the government is continuously building more infrastructure and attracting higher-value investments that provide higher wages to employees.
- CNA/ir
Esta Owner
11-11-08, 21:12
E-Booking for key collection opened!
Check out the MCL web. :)
Rise of the west?
11-11-08, 21:23
It appears from the HDB Resale table by region that the western region is now the hottest area? Other than Marine Parade, the most expensive ones are in Redhill, Queenstown, Clementi, Bukit Timah, etc. Interesting trend.
Rise of the west?
11-11-08, 21:27
It appears from the HDB Resale table by region that the western region is now the hottest area? Other than Marine Parade, the most expensive ones are in Redhill, Queenstown, Clementi, Bukit Timah, etc. Interesting trend.
What about condo then?
E-Booking for key collection opened!
Check out the MCL web. :)
Hi, I'm also an Esta owner. Will MCL provide us with the pin for e-booking?
Esta_Owner
11-11-08, 21:40
Hi, I'm also an Esta owner. Will MCL provide us with the pin for e-booking?
Good question. I also want to know the pin. You first owner or buy sub sale?
Good question. I also want to know the pin. You first owner or buy sub sale?
I'm the first owner... got the unit when it was launched early 2006. How abt yourself?
Esta_Owner
11-11-08, 21:50
I'm the first owner... got the unit when it was launched early 2006. How abt yourself?
Same here. So how to book when system is open but no pin issue. Maybe our lawyer knows?
Same here. So how to book when system is open but no pin issue. Maybe our lawyer knows?
I'm not sure. I guess we'd be updated via letters from the developer through our lawyers. I shall just wait for it. BTW, do you know which blocks would be in the first batch for key collection? I'm really excited to view the condominium. I'm not sure if the guards would let me in since I do not have the keys yet.
Esta_Owner
11-11-08, 22:00
I'm not sure. I guess we'd be updated via letters from the developer through our lawyers. I shall just wait for it. BTW, do you know which blocks would be in the first batch for key collection? I'm really excited to view the condominium. I'm not sure if the guards would let me in since I do not have the keys yet.
Dun know leh, tomorrow I call MCL to check about the pin. Keep in touch, good 9 :)
Esta Owner
11-11-08, 22:28
I'm not sure. I guess we'd be updated via letters from the developer through our lawyers. I shall just wait for it. BTW, do you know which blocks would be in the first batch for key collection? I'm really excited to view the condominium. I'm not sure if the guards would let me in since I do not have the keys yet.
Passed by the esta. They had changed the guards. Now got 3 of them in proper uniform... so didn't try to go in. :(
Real Estate Pundit
12-11-08, 09:11
Originally Posted by Dream On!!
Dream on! The days of HDB selling above valuation is over.
The report and URA index is always one quarter behind. HDB transactions now are at below valuations. Furthermore, the current valuations has also come down from its peak from the 2nd Quarter 2008 valuation.
We strongly support you.
It's time for a change!
It's time to prove that SM is wrong and you are right!
You guys are funny! SM Lee can't be proven wrong! He said the price will eventually rise to yield profit. BUT he didn't say when. It could be the next property cycle....but he didn't say when.
In GIC/Temasek language, any investments made with our monies that is showing negative equity now IS called LONG TERM INVESTMENTS! So you guys remember the key word......LONG TERM INVESTMENTS.
If you bought DBS shares at $12.90 three weeks ago and you still holding on to it, it is LONG TERM INVESTMENT.
If you bought Esta at $1200psf in January 2008 and you still holding on to it, it is LONG TERM INVESTMENT.
If you bought The Belvedere at $2000psf in November 2007 and you still holding on to it, it is LONG TERM INVESTMENT.
BUT if you spent A$400,000,000 to buy ABC Learning in Australia for 15% ownership, that is A WRITE OFF and someone needs to be accountable.
You guys are funny! SM Lee can't be proven wrong! He said the price will eventually rise to yield profit. BUT he didn't say when. It could be the next property cycle....but he didn't say when.
In GIC/Temasek language, any investments made with our monies that is showing negative equity now IS called LONG TERM INVESTMENTS! So you guys remember the key word......LONG TERM INVESTMENTS.
If you bought DBS shares at $12.90 three weeks ago and you still holding on to it, it is LONG TERM INVESTMENT.
If you bought Esta at $1200psf in January 2008 and you still holding on to it, it is LONG TERM INVESTMENT.
If you bought The Belvedere at $2000psf in November 2007 and you still holding on to it, it is LONG TERM INVESTMENT.
BUT if you spent A$400,000,000 to buy ABC Learning in Australia for 15% ownership, that is A WRITE OFF and someone needs to be accountable.
Bro,
Welcome back! Have not hear from you for the past few weeks..:)
Got a call from my lawyer before lunch. TOP letter was received this morning.
Why my owner can get her key so early I also don't know. So far no green light given from her for open house.
Bro,
Welcome back! Have not hear from you for the past few weeks..:)
Bro, when you free? Want to invite you to see Esta soon. Haha, so you can compare the Master bedroom size.:)
Real Estate Pundit
12-11-08, 09:43
I have been away. Haven't updated transactions for 2 weeks liao.
Looks like the economy is looking rather bleak.
Plus GIC/Temasek may also be running a casino soon :doh:
Bro,
Welcome back! Have not hear from you for the past few weeks..:)
Same here. So how to book when system is open but no pin issue. Maybe our lawyer knows?
You will get your PIN with the 'Notice Of Procession' from your lawyer.
Unregistered.
12-11-08, 10:18
Bro, when you free? Want to invite you to see Esta soon. Haha, so you can compare the Master bedroom size.:)
Any fire sale in Esta now? heard bank tighten the housing loan, no so easy to get 80% liao. how true is it?
Unreg”stered
12-11-08, 10:43
I have been away. Haven't updated transactions for 2 weeks liao.
Looks like the economy is looking rather bleak.
Plus GIC/Temasek may also be running a casino soon :doh:
GIC/Temasek running which casino?
Marina Bay Sands?
How to?
Las Vegas Sands has all the funding for it what!
http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/common/mast_home.gif
Marina IR is 'No. 1' priority
Lim WeiChean
The Straits Times
Tuesday, 11 November 2008
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The Marina Bay integrated resort remains the 'No 1' priority for Las Vegas Sands even as the casino operator suspends projects in its Macau headquarters and scales back on a development in Pennsylvania, its top suits promised.
Sands president and chief operating officer William Weidner said the Singapore IR is not only 'a very important project' which offers 'terrific returns on investment', but it is also 'probably the most important project' in their portfolio.
In a conference call early on Tuesday, the embattered company also said it is raising US$2.14 billion in capital, including new funding from its billionaire chief executive, Sheldon Adelson.
http://www.finehomeslv.com/stardust_hotel_las_vegas/las-vegas-sands.jpg
Reg”stered
12-11-08, 10:46
Any fire sale in Esta now? heard bank tighten the housing loan, no so easy to get 80% liao. how true is it?
Please lah!
70% loan is the best.
Please do not take 80% or 90% loan.
Why pay additional interest for that extra 10% or 20% loan?
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Sibor Falls To 4-year Low
The Straits Times
Wednesday, 12 November 2008
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The all-important interest rate at which banks lend funds to one another has nosedived to 0.89% - its lowest level since mid-2004.
This is likely to be good news for many home owners, who are set to enjoy lower mortgage rates soon. Rates on other consumer loans may also fall.
But the outlook is not so good for investors holding fixed deposits - as their interest rates are likely to fall as well. And businesses big and small will not necessarily get a flow-on benefit of lower borrowing costs.
Real Estate Pundit
12-11-08, 10:58
Another 2 week has pass and only 3 NEW caveats lodged between 18 Oct 08 to 31 Oct 08.
Unit___Size, sqft__$psf___Total_______Contract date
11-2X__1561_____828___$1,292,508__23 Oct 08
18-0X__1130_____920___$1,039,600__22 Oct 08 } All 3 units in sequence
18-0X__1410_____980___$1,381,980__17 Oct 08 } $980psf paid by foreigner
18-0X__1313_____895___$1,175,135__16 Oct 08 } The other 2 units - local
03-1X__1346_____810___$1,090,260__15 Oct 08
10-0X__1313_____915___$1,201,395__13 Oct 08
11-0X__1001_____968___$969,000____10 Oct 08
10-1X__1173_____925___$1,085,000__06 Oct 08
16-1X__1173_____938___$1,100,000__06 Oct 08
14-0X__1313_____850___$1,116,050__06 Oct 08
20-0X__1313_____849___$1,116,000__03 Oct 08
12-0X__1475_____905___$1,334,875__30 Sep 08
14-0X__1130_____916___$1,035,000__29 Sep 08
10-0X__1001_____959___$960,000___ 25 Sep 08
20-1X__1313_____890___$1,168,000__25 Sep 08
07-0X__1130_____890___$1,005,700__24 Sep 08
11-1X__1346_____906___$1,220,000__19 Sep 08
08-0X__1475_____868___$1,280,000__17 Sep 08
05-0X__1464_____830___$1,215,120__01 Sep 08
03-1X__1313_____800___$1,050,400__01 Sep 08
21-0X__2368_____1132__$2,680,000__22 Aug 08
10-0X__1130_____925___$1,045,250__19 Aug 08
11-0X__1346_____936___$1,260,000__18 Aug 08
13-0X__1346_____929___$1,250,000__15 Aug 08
11-1X__1173_____936___$1,098,000__11 Aug 08
12-1X__1173_____912___$1,070,000__01 Aug 08
15-04__1313_____855___$1,122,615__14 Jul 08
19-07__1346_____1000__$1,346,000__14 Jul 08
14-09__1399_____926___$1,295,000__09 Jul 08
10-12__1346_____877___$1,180,000__08 Jul 08
13-11__1593_____929___$1,480,000__07 Jul 08
19-20__1561_____974___$1,520,000__27 Jun 08
10-11__1561_____955___$1,490,755__24 Jun 08
Please lah!
70% loan is the best.
Please do not take 80% or 90% loan.
Why pay additional interest for that extra 10% or 20% loan?
Wow!
SIBOR crashing!
Another 2 week has pass and only 3 NEW caveats lodged between 18 Oct 08 to 31 Oct 08.
Unit___Size, sqft__$psf___Total_______Contract date
11-2X__1561_____828___$1,292,508__23 Oct 08
18-0X__1130_____920___$1,039,600__22 Oct 08 } All 3 units in sequence
18-0X__1410_____980___$1,381,980__17 Oct 08 } $980psf paid by foreigner
18-0X__1313_____895___$1,175,135__16 Oct 08 } The other 2 units - local
03-1X__1346_____810___$1,090,260__15 Oct 08
10-0X__1313_____915___$1,201,395__13 Oct 08
11-0X__1001_____968___$969,000____10 Oct 08
10-1X__1173_____925___$1,085,000__06 Oct 08
16-1X__1173_____938___$1,100,000__06 Oct 08
14-0X__1313_____850___$1,116,050__06 Oct 08
20-0X__1313_____849___$1,116,000__03 Oct 08
12-0X__1475_____905___$1,334,875__30 Sep 08
14-0X__1130_____916___$1,035,000__29 Sep 08
10-0X__1001_____959___$960,000___ 25 Sep 08
20-1X__1313_____890___$1,168,000__25 Sep 08
07-0X__1130_____890___$1,005,700__24 Sep 08
11-1X__1346_____906___$1,220,000__19 Sep 08
08-0X__1475_____868___$1,280,000__17 Sep 08
05-0X__1464_____830___$1,215,120__01 Sep 08
03-1X__1313_____800___$1,050,400__01 Sep 08
21-0X__2368_____1132__$2,680,000__22 Aug 08
10-0X__1130_____925___$1,045,250__19 Aug 08
11-0X__1346_____936___$1,260,000__18 Aug 08
13-0X__1346_____929___$1,250,000__15 Aug 08
11-1X__1173_____936___$1,098,000__11 Aug 08
12-1X__1173_____912___$1,070,000__01 Aug 08
15-04__1313_____855___$1,122,615__14 Jul 08
19-07__1346_____1000__$1,346,000__14 Jul 08
14-09__1399_____926___$1,295,000__09 Jul 08
10-12__1346_____877___$1,180,000__08 Jul 08
13-11__1593_____929___$1,480,000__07 Jul 08
19-20__1561_____974___$1,520,000__27 Jun 08
10-11__1561_____955___$1,490,755__24 Jun 08
11 units sold in a month is an excellent figure. This translates into annualised sales of 132 or one-third of the condo's 400 units. Some units will never be sold as they are owner occupied. Oct's sales figure is a large improvement on 2Q08's monthly sales. It's obvious some people feel current prices are low enough and they ain't waiting for S$700psf.
I own a unit and can't wait to move in. The landlord of the property I'm renting has just informed me he's doubling my rent. He says the increase would have been more if not for the current poor economic conditions. With exceptional low interest rates, I'll be saving about two-third of the rent I'm paying when I shift to The Esta.
Timing of key collection
"Upon issuance of Temporary Occupation Permit (TOP) or Certificate of Statutory Completion (CSC) by the relevant authorities, our solicitors will notify your solicitor to make the next payment and furnish guidelines and password for the online booking system for the key collection. Upon our receipt of your payment from our solicitors, you may proceed to book an appointment for collection of key via our online booking system.
The appointment date and time is subject to availability on a first-come-first-served basis. Information on the availability can be checked via the online booking system."
low transactions means low commissions for agents.
so many agents, so few transactions.... oops.
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low transactions means low commissions for agents.
so many agents, so few transactions.... oops.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/3022254188_c5a277f41b.jpg?v=0
Well that's the nature of their job and I'm sure they know. It's a cyclical business and they should have saved for the bad days during the good days.
Zeng Han Jun
13-11-08, 11:07
Hey statistics aside, im sure some agents are doing really well. I was drinking coffee at Ya Kun in Toa Payoh with some buddies and we overheard an agent talking to another bank officer. He was submitting so many loan documents on behalf of just one customer and it seems like that particular customers got most of his buys through some hard bargaining! Of course, that was just one agent! lol
In every line
Some will earn more then the rest
Guess it is normal
Project Name - THE ESTA(Former THE SEA VIEW)
Developer - Richdeal Pte Ltd(MCL Land Limited)
Property Type - Condominium
Tenure - Freehold
Total Units - 400
Completion Date - Est 31 Dec 2009
District - 15
4 bedroom (1561 - 1711sf)
Penthouse (2368 - 3477sf)
source from:
http://www.virtualhomes.sg/theesta
Unregistered88
13-11-08, 15:26
Project Name - THE ESTA(Former THE SEA VIEW)
Developer - Richdeal Pte Ltd(MCL Land Limited)
Property Type - Condominium
Tenure - Freehold
Total Units - 400
Completion Date - Est 31 Dec 2009
District - 15
4 bedroom (1561 - 1711sf)
Penthouse (2368 - 3477sf)
source from:
http://www.virtualhomes.sg/theesta
Out of the three, which one r u?
Unregistered1234
13-11-08, 20:38
Wow Esta TOP liao!!! Just updated in the MCL web page. Anyone rec'd letter to collect keys?
Wow Esta TOP liao!!! Just updated in the MCL web page. Anyone rec'd letter to collect keys?
Congrats after a long wait!
I bought mine from sub-sale don't know when can get keys :( . Still must wait for transaction to complete.... sianz
East Lover
18-11-08, 14:21
I bought mine from sub-sale don't know when can get keys :( . Still must wait for transaction to complete.... sianz
Guess you just bought it recently, so still wait for transacation to complete... Did you buy it in good price?
East Lover
18-11-08, 14:24
Congrats after a long wait!
Just realised that no posting allowed without proper logon. so no more nonsense in this forum liao?! :spliff:
Just realised that no posting allowed without proper logon. so no more nonsense in this forum liao?! :spliff:
No wonder so quiet nowadays
this forum is quiet without them
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720 degree virtual tour , floor plans,elevations,transaction,project details,available unit types....more from
http://www.virtualhomes.sg/theesta
Wow Esta TOP liao!!! Just updated in the MCL web page. Anyone rec'd letter to collect keys?
A password comes with the TOP letter from MCL Land's lawyer. A buyer should only book an appointment to collect keys after payment is made to MCL Land, after which it will issue a letter to the buyer. The guard will only let the buyer pass if he/she holds such letter. I tried to get into the condo last weekend with the lawyer's TOP letter, the guard said no.
at least the guard is doing the job. tight security is good for residents. no choice but to wait now!
East Lover
20-11-08, 08:00
this forum is quiet without them
now without logon, even not able to read thread!
now without logon, even not able to read thread!
I think it's alright to force people to logon if they want to post. This is to restrict the porno nonsense that someone has been posting to prevent this forum from operating.
But it's a bit over the top to require people to logon to be able to read thread.
Yup, I tend to agree it would be useful for netizens to read threads without a logon.
Was told that key collection will start tomorrow. Anyone can confirm this? Which block?
Was told that key collection will start tomorrow. Anyone can confirm this? Which block?
blk 31 start first. Some owner has already gotten keys last weekend. Can view.
at least the guard is doing the job. tight security is good for residents. no choice but to wait now!
For buyers tat are going for viewing, the guards will ask you for your handphone number. Be advice, give at your own risk. Some reasons behind it.:)
For buyers tat are going for viewing, the guards will ask you for your handphone number. Be advice, give at your own risk. Some reasons behind it.:)
What do mean some reasons? They will call you up at night to say hello ;)
What do mean some reasons? They will call you up at night to say hello ;)
They will pass your numbers to 'some' agents to call you.
Phua Chu Kang
21-11-08, 14:28
Woudl you be kind enough to post pics of Esta's interior if you have already been inside?
Geylang OKT
22-11-08, 22:53
Yes some agents actually team up with the security guards to target owners either to rent or sell their units. Really irksome :p :o :tsk-tsk:
Yes some agents actually team up with the security guards to target owners either to rent or sell their units. Really irksome :p :o :tsk-tsk:
Once the deal is closed,those agents will pass the security guard with kopi $ to cover them.:tsk-tsk:
Saw many units in Esta for rent and range from $3.5-$3.90 PSF. At this current condition still can fetch so high price?
Saw many units in Esta for rent and range from $3.5-$3.90 PSF. At this current condition still can fetch so high price?
then in tis current market
how much is your plate of chicken rice
selling now?
1 dollar /?
I would think around 2.8k-3.2k would be reasonable
http://172.31.254.244/i382.photobucket.comm/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00285-1.jpg?t=1227494344
Sorry, testing.
fridge included or ID item?
fridge included or ID item?
included. Bro, this is not show unit. What you see is wat you get. Include the oven too
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00301.jpg
From stack 2
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00234.jpg
Pool view and Blk 33
hayata1972
24-11-08, 10:33
Joe, just to check with you, do the owners of the open balcony entrance get wet when they enter the home on a rainy day?
Joe, just to check with you, do the owners of the open balcony entrance get wet when they enter the home on a rainy day?
I was there for pass 2 days for open house. 2nd day evening was raining cats n dogs. Those balcony facing outside all wet and have to close the sliding doors to prevent the living room from getting wet. Walk in balcony from what i see not affected(balcony yes, a bit wet but rain didn't get to the door area). maybe due to the other balcony on top covering it and it's quite far inwards. Also you can keep you living room window open as there's a balcony on top preventing rain from coming in.
hayata1972
24-11-08, 10:42
I was there for pass 2 days for open house. 2nd day evening was raining cats n dogs. Those balcony facing outside all wet and have to close the sliding doors to prevent the living room from getting wet. Walk in balcony from what i see not affected(balcony yes, a bit wet but rain didn't get to the door area). maybe due to the other balcony on top covering it and it's quite far inwards. Also you can keep you living room window open as there's a balcony on top preventing rain from coming in.
So in other words those units with open balcony doorway that have no blockage will get seriously wet lah.
East Lover
24-11-08, 10:47
drive by Esta...
So in other words those units with open balcony doorway that have no blockage will get seriously wet lah.
Yup. I try to post more photos. You can see I have to close the sliding door.
just to check.. current market price for resale still going at $8XX?
just to check.. current market price for resale still going at $8XX?
There are some units going for 8XX. All depends on the seller, so will hold and rent it out(Long team investment) I'm seeing more units going for rental rather then sale. Asking price now will be slightly higher cause owner feels when TOP and can view hope to have buyers tat like the unit and pay the higher asking price. And of cause there are these kind of buyers around. They grab what they like. Guess is motivated seller will sell around 900psf:)
yeah of cse... afterall bargain hunters are looking for those that buay lun. I was at that area a few times, just kinda concern the traffic buildup when other developments TOP
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00286.jpg
Just Normal.
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00287.jpg
Should be big enough to convert to maid's room
East Lover
24-11-08, 11:06
included. Bro, this is not show unit. What you see is wat you get. Include the oven too
don't know how to post photos, :doh:took a few while passing by Esta last weekend.
By the way, will the resale buyer can have all the items stated in specification?
FOUNDATION:Concrete bored piles or concrete spun piles SUPERSTRUCTURE:Reinforced concrete manufactured from Portland cement complying with S.S.26 and steel reinforcement bar complying with S.S.2.
WALLS:a)External Wall
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Reinforced Concrete Wallb)Internal Wall
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Reinforced Concrete WallROOF:Flat Roof - Reinforced concrete flat roof with appropriate insulation and waterproofing system
CEILING:a)Unit
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1) Living, dining, foyer, gallery, family, bedrooms, study, household shelter and store
Cement and sand plaster or skim coat with emulsion paint with plaster ceiling board box up t designated araes.
2) Kitchen, Yard, hallway, WC and bathrooms
Fibrous plasterboard ceiling with emulsion paint
3) Balcony
Cement and sand plaster or skim coat with emulsion paint
b)Common area
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1) Lift lobbies
Fibrous plasterboard with emulsion paint
2) Staurcase
Skim coat with emulsion paint
3) Open perforated metal staircase
Perforated metal treads and risers
FINISHES: WALL
i) Unit
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1) Living, dining, foyer, gallery, family, bedrooms, study, household shelter
Cement and sand plaster and skim coat with emulsion paint
2) Kitchen
Ceramic tiles and cement and sand plaster / skim coat with emulsion paint
3) Master bath
Porcelain tiles
4) Bath 2, bath 3, bath 4 and Powder Room
Homogeneous tiles
5) WC
Ceramic tiles
6) Roof terrace and Private Enclosed Space
Cement and sand plaster with spray texture coating finish
7) Balcony
Cement and sand plaster and / skim coat with spray texture coating finish.
ii) Common areas
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1) Basement and 1st storey lift lobby
Granite / marble / homogenoeous tiles / cement and sand plaster with emulsion paint
2) Typical Lift Lobby
Homogeneous tiles / cement and sand plaster with emulsion paint
3) Other wall finishes
Cement and sand plaster and / skim coat with emulsion paint
FLOOR
i) Unit
:1) Living, Dining and hallway, entrance foyer, foyer, gallery, family , store
Compresse marble with compressed marble skirting
2) Bedrooms and study room
Timber strip with timber skirting
3) Master bath
Porcelain tiles
4) Bath 2, Bath 3, Bath 4 and Powder room
Homogeneous tiles
5) Kitchen and Yard, Household Shelter and WC
Homogeneous tiles
6) Balcony, Roof terrace and PES
Homogeneous tiles
ii) Common Area:1) Lift Lobby at Basement and 1st storey
Granite and /Marble tiles
2) Typical Lift lobby
Homogeneous tiles
3) Staircases (For residential blocks)
i)Basement to 1st storey Homogeneous tilesii)Typical storey Concrete finish with nosing tiles/perforated metal
4) Function room/changing room
Granite and homogeneous tiles
5) Gymnasium
Sport vinyl floor system
6) Pool Deck Area
Granite / washed pebles/ / timber deck
7) Pool
Ceramic tiles
WINDOWS:1) Living, dining, bedrooms, and study rooms
Aluminium framed window with tinted glass panel and tempered glass to designated areas as maybe required by authorities
2) Kitchen and yard
Aluminium framed window with glass panel
3) Master bath, bath 2, bath 3, bath 4, powder room and WC
Aluminium framed casement / fixed / top hung with tinted and / abscured glass panel
DOORS:a)Main Entrance
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Approved fire-rated timber door
b)Bedrooms, master bath, bath 2, bath 3, bath 4, powder room, shoe rack and store
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Hollow core timber veneer flush doorc)Kitchen
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Timber veneer sliding door with glass panel
d)Balcony, roof terrace and PES-Aluminium framed sliding glass door and / aluminium framed swing glass door
e)WC-Acrylic bi-folding doorf)Household shelter-Approved blast-proof metal door and PVC bi-fold door internally
g)Private enclosed space (PES)-Stainless steel framed glass gate
f)Selected lockset to main entrance door & other timber doors SANITARY FITTINGS :UNIT ITEMS B1
B1a
B1b
B2
B2a
B2b
B2c
B3
B3a
B3b
B4
B4a
B4b
MASTER TOILET 1 long bath complete with bath mixer and shower set
1 glass shower compartment complete with shower mixer and shower set
1 solid surface vanity top with 1 wash basin and mixer tap with cabinet below
1 wall hung water closet
1 mirror
1 magnifying mirror
1 paper holder
1 towel rack
1 towel rail
C1
C1a
C2
C2a
D1
D2
D3
D4
D5
Master Bath1 long bath complete with bath mixer and shower set
1 glass shower compartment copmmplete with shower mixer and shower set
1 solid surface vanity top with 2 wash basins and mixer set
1 wall hung water closet
1 mirror
1 magnifying mirror
1 paper holder
1 towel rack
1 towel rail
A1
A1a
A2
A3
A3b
A4
A4a
A4b Master Bath1 glass shower compartment complete with shower mixer and shower set
1 solid surface vanity top with 1 wash basin and mixer tap with cabinet below
1 wall hung water closet
1 mirror
1 magnifying mirror
1 paper holder
1 towel rack
1 towel rail
A1
A1a
A2
A3
A3b
A4
A4a
A4b
B1
B1a
B1b
B2
B2a
B2b
B2c
B3
B3a
B3b
B4
B4a
B4b
D1*
D2*
D3*
D5*
Bath 2, Bath 3*, Bath 4*1 glass shower compartment complete with shower mixer, shower set and soap holder
1 vanity top with 1 wash basin and mixer tap with cabinet below
1 pedestal water closet
1 mirror
1 paper holder
1 towel railC1
C1a
C2
C2a Bath 21 glass shower compartment complete with shower mixer, shower set and soap holder
1 vanity top with 1 wash basin and mixer tap with cabinet below
1 mirror
1 towel rail
C1
C1a
C2
C2a
D4Powder room1 vanity top with 1 wash basin and mixer tap with cabinet below
1 pedestal water close
1 mirror
1 paper holder
1 towel ring
WC1 hand-held shower set with bib tap
1 wll hung basin
1 pedestal water closet
1 paper holder
1 soap dish
Yard1 bib tap
PES1 bib tap
D1
D2
D3
D5
Roof terrace3 bib taps
D4Roof terace2 bib taps
TV / TELEPHONE ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION :All electrical wiring are concealed in condits wherever possible except for electrical wiring above false ceiling.
LIGHNING PROTECTION :Lightning protection system shall be provided in accordance with Singapore Standard's Code Of Practice 33:1996
PAINTING:a)External Walls
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Sprayed textured coating and weather bond emulsion paintb)Internal Walls
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Emulsion paint
WATERPROOFING:Waterproofing shall be provided of bathrooms, kitchen, yard, EC, balcony, roof terrace, PES, planter box, RC flat roof, pools, water features & basement where applicable.
DRIVEWAY & CARPARK :1) Surface driveway
Granite cobbled stones
2) Basement carpark
Concrete floor with hardener
RECREATION FACILITIES
:Refer to facilities (http://www.orangetee.com/Visitor_Lounge/NewLaunches/TheEsta/Facilities.asp)
ADDIONAL ITEMS :a)Kitchen Cabinets
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High and low post-form kitchen cabinets with solid surface coutner top and kitchen sink, fridge, micro-wave oven, oven, washing machine, cooker hood and hob.
b)Air-Conditioning:Wall mounted single/multi split type air-conditioning to all bedrooms, study, living, dining and family
c)Wardrobes:Built-in wardrobes to all bedroms
d)Water heater:Hot water supply from has heater to bathroom and kitchen
e)Security:1) Security access control system at basement and 1st storey lift lobbies and pedestrian gate
2) Audio visual intercom provided to each unit linking to basement and 1st storey lift lobbies
3) Vehicle barrier system at Main entrance
f)Gas:Town gas supply to kichen hob and water heater
g)Cloth hanger:Clothes hanger provided at yard
h)Built in cabinet:Built-in cabinet priovided at the entrance of the living for Type B1a, B1, B1b, B3, B3b, C1 and C2a
Notesa)Marble & Granite
:
Marble and granite are natural stone material containing veins and tonality differences. There will be colour and markings caused by their complex mineral composition and incorporated impurities. While such materials can be pre-selected before installation, this non-conformity in the marble or granite hence cannot be totally avoided. Granite tiles are pre-polished before laying and care has been taken for their installation. However, granite, being a much harder material than marble cannot be re-polished after installation. Hence some differences may be felt at the joints.
b)Cable Television :The Purchaser is liable to pay annual fee, subscription fee and such other fees to the StarHub Cable Vision Ltd (SCV) or any other relevant party or any other relevant authorities. The Vendor is not responsible to make arrangements with any of the said parties for the services connection for their respective subscription channels.
c)Warranties:Where warranties are given by the manufacturers and/or contractors and/or suppliers of any the equipment and/or appliances installed by, the Vendors at the * Unit/Building, the vendor shall assign to the Purchaser such warranties at the time with possesion of the *Unit Building is delivered to the purchaser.
d)Timber:Timber strips are natural material containing veins and tonal differences. Thus it is not possible to achieve total consistency of colour and grain in its selection and installation.
e)Wardrobe, Kitchen Cabinets & Fan Coil Units :Layout / location of wardrobes, kitchen cabinets and fan coil units are subject to Architect's sole discretion and final design.
f)Air-conditioning :Regular maintenance by the purchaser of air-conditioning system, including the claening of filters and condensation pipes is essential for efficient running and prolonging their operating life.
g)
Equipment appliances
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The brand and model of all the equipment and appliances shall be provided subject to availability
h)Internet Access:If the purchaser requires internet access, the purchaser will have to make direct arrangements with the internet service provider and such relevant entitles / authorities for internet services to his unit and to make all necessary payments to the internet service provider and the relevant entitles / authorities. This shall include all costs / fees incurred for any additional hard wiring required.
i)
Warranties
:
Where warranties are given by the manufacturers and contractors and suppliers of any of the equipment and appliances installed by the developer at the unit, the developer shall assign to the purchaser such warranties at the time when possession of the unit is delivered to purchasers.
East Lover
24-11-08, 11:11
Kitchen Photo
i like the color, better than the dark tune in the website.
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00288.jpg
It's raining. Have to close the door to prevent rain from coming in
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00289.jpg
View from stack 2, mid floor
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00290.jpg
Rose garden by FEO.
East Lover
24-11-08, 11:13
how is the traffic noise from stack 2, mid floor?
yeah of cse... afterall bargain hunters are looking for those that buay lun. I was at that area a few times, just kinda concern the traffic buildup when other developments TOP
Heard tat for One Amber there will be a enter/exit for cars at Mountbatton Road, not confirmed...heard only(Dun flame me) ok:) If it's true will maybe ease the traffic along amber garden
how is the traffic noise from stack 2, mid floor?
Not much road noise in fact. From what I foresee, maybe when FEO start to construct Rose Garden there will be
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00291-1.jpg
Bedroom 3 of stack 2
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00294.jpg
Bedroom 2 stack 2
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00293.jpg
Study room
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00283-1.jpg
Washing Machine(Eletrolux)
Dryer(Forgotten the name, think start with R)
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00284-1.jpg
Fridge(Eletrolux)
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00285-1.jpg
Oven(Dun know what brand, didn't see)
included. Bro, this is not show unit. What you see is wat you get. Include the oven too
Ops, sorry. Only for this units. Other units you may have to check with the agents.
don't know how to post photos, :doh:took a few while passing by Esta last weekend.
By the way, will the resale buyer can have all the items stated in specification?
Only for this unit. Owner willing to give away. Sorry, for other units. Please check with the agents.
Phua Chu Kang
24-11-08, 11:48
Great! Thanks for the pics Joe8618. Keep it coming.
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00243-1-1.jpg
View from the top
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00239-1-1.jpg
How long will the pocket seaview last(Facing Silversea)
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00244-1.jpg
City view from Blk 39, this is the view forever
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00246-1.jpg
Top of the world
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00302-1.jpg
Sliding doors for Wardrobes
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00303-1.jpg
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00304-1.jpg
Masterbed room toilet
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00305-1.jpg
Common toilet, sorry it's getting dark already
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00236-1.jpg
Family pool and Gym
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00295-1.jpg
Lap pool
Great! Thanks for the pics Joe8618. Keep it coming.
Thank you:)
Joe thank you for posting up all the great photos that you have taken. By the way any pics for the walk in balcony type? :)
East Lover
24-11-08, 12:52
Thank you:)
Good job, Joe!
Interested to see 3+1 or 4 bedder, do you have?
By the way, have you ever been to the study room? how small it is? can put piano + bookcase?
East Lover
24-11-08, 12:56
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00236-1.jpg
Family pool and Gym
Lap pool
Beautiful!
East Lover
24-11-08, 12:58
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00295-1.jpg
Lap pool
One Amber units have better Esta pool view than some of Esta units :banghead:
Good job, Joe!
Interested to see 3+1 or 4 bedder, do you have?
By the way, have you ever been to the study room? how small it is? can put piano + bookcase?
Don't think can fix in the piano. Bookcase no problem. Yes, I have 3+1 and 4 bedder too. Need to confirm when can view. :)
Don't think can fix in the piano. Bookcase no problem. Yes, I have 3+1 and 4 bedder too. Need to confirm when can view. :)
Thanks Joe for sharing the pictures!!! Yippie! :)
Joe thank you for posting up all the great photos that you have taken. By the way any pics for the walk in balcony type? :)
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00280-1.jpg
1313 walk in balcony. Note that there's less wasted space at the entrance.
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00281-1.jpg
1346 balcony
We are first owners and just received our keys over the weekend for a relatively high flr unit (above 12th flr) Michelia, stack 04. Being the walk-in balcony layout type, we were a little nervous abt all the layout would be as the front balcony fronting seemed more popular. However, our fears were unfounded as we were pleasantly amazed by the spacious layout and spectacular full seaview right in front of us that stretches from balcony all the way to the master bedroom.
Joe, you were right, the rain didn't get into the balcony during yesterday's heavy rainfall! The walk-in balcony also gives one the welcoming and open air effect. It was extremely breezy and more spacious then we had thought. From measurements, we will be able to include one table with 4 outdoor chairs. Given the spaciousness, we are going to add in the dry kitchen counter to complement the refrigerator area in the foyer before the living/dining area as recommended by our ID.
Overall we are quite happy with the layout and unit, although we felt certain areas like the lift lobby and basement lobby designs could be improved. I will try to take some pics for upload soon.
Given the spaciousness, we are going to add in the dry kitchen counter to complement the refrigerator area in the foyer before the living/dining area as recommended by our ID.
Huh, sorry. Hard to vision how will be the layout. Hope to see your pictures soon. Btw how you find in teams of road noise? Lastly, you are a very lucky guy that bought Esta at that price.:)
To all people that been calling me over pass 2 days for the open house. My apologies to you if I had miss your calls, couldn't pick up and talk to you, can't extend the timing to some of you guys due to some reasons and yet to confirm timing with you. It was really busy with buyers coming in non stop. Do PM me if any of you are keen to view this coming weekend. I can't confirm anything as on today as I be trying to collect 2 more keys this week for 3 room and 3+1. Good stack and level, facing mounitbatton road.:)
wallstreat
24-11-08, 16:11
Congrats dwhx74 :)
btw will the seaview be permanent for stack 04 i.e. any chances it will be blocked by the Silversea project?
Congrats dwhx74 :)
btw will the seaview be permanent for stack 04 i.e. any chances it will be blocked by the Silversea project?
Hi, thank you. I'm not sure how sustainable the full seaview will be for us. Once Silversea is up, I think the master room and prob bedroom 1 views may be partially blocked... but the balcony, living, dining and bedroom 2 views will be fine as it looks out into the Chinese Swimming club side. My family and close frens who came over were so impressed by the view and the layout. Everyone thought our views will be blocked by the immediate buidlings. I guess it's the way the block was constructed.
But stack 04 does not come with pool view... for us, it's fine since we love the seaview much better.
On the noise level, we couldn't hear anything with all windows open... I guess it's prob becoz we are on a high flr. The facing is north south so there is slight morning sun only. No west sun... There is no blockage from the master room side windows. We have a gd view of the nursery and The Seaview.
Huh, sorry. Hard to vision how will be the layout. Hope to see your pictures soon. Btw how you find in teams of road noise? Lastly, you are a very lucky guy that bought Esta at that price.:)
Yes, I will try to take more pics this weekend and possibly scan in what my ID has plan for our layout.
We have our windows open and there is hardly any road noise. I guess it's prob becoz we are on a high level.
Yes, we bought the unit when it was first launched in early 2006. We had wanted the unit with the front balcony and they were snapped up very quickly for the high flr units facing the sea. We settled for the walk in balcony type on a high level... initially with some reservations but my husband and I were glad that we took this unit now.
Phua Chu Kang
24-11-08, 17:39
Guess it must really feel good.
But I must say that during the peak of en-bloc, Amber Glades and Amber Park were targets. If that being the case, potentially any new developments would have blocked any views. Plus there are several new apartments under construction along Amber Road. But at least that would be many years from now and you can enjoy your splendid views.
How would you compare the lobby area of Esta versus Seaview?
To all people that been calling me over pass 2 days for the open house. My apologies to you if I had miss your calls, couldn't pick up and talk to you, can't extend the timing to some of you guys due to some reasons and yet to confirm timing with you. It was really busy with buyers coming in non stop. Do PM me if any of you are keen to view this coming weekend. I can't confirm anything as on today as I be trying to collect 2 more keys this week for 3 room and 3+1. Good stack and level, facing mounitbatton road.:)
Bro,
Thanks for all the nice pixs.Can i arrange with you for a viewing maybe next week?this week im quite tight up with my work,super busy.
Thanks in advance & all the best ya!:)
Bro,
Thanks for all the nice pixs.Can i arrange with you for a viewing maybe next week?this week im quite tight up with my work,super busy.
Thanks in advance & all the best ya!:)
No problem. Will keep in touch. Btw really thank you for your help. You been real nice to me.:cheers1:
Hi, thank you. I'm not sure how sustainable the full seaview will be for us. Once Silversea is up, I think the master room and prob bedroom 1 views may be partially blocked... but the balcony, living, dining and bedroom 2 views will be fine as it looks out into the Chinese Swimming club side. My family and close frens who came over were so impressed by the view and the layout. Everyone thought our views will be blocked by the immediate buidlings. I guess it's the way the block was constructed.
But stack 04 does not come with pool view... for us, it's fine since we love the seaview much better.
On the noise level, we couldn't hear anything with all windows open... I guess it's prob becoz we are on a high flr. The facing is north south so there is slight morning sun only. No west sun... There is no blockage from the master room side windows. We have a gd view of the nursery and The Seaview.
Congrats dwhx74,
Imho,if you're staying @ D15,Seaview is definetly much better than Poolview.(no offence to those staying facing Poolview).When you're back from a hetic day @ work,once you see the seaview you will feel shiok & will be relief from all stress.Im enjoying the seaview from my house everyday:) Hope you will enjoy as well.
No problem. Will keep in touch. Btw really thank you for your help. You been real nice to me.:cheers1:
No problem lah bro.small matter;) need any help,just gimme a buzz.Next week if you're around my area can come to my house for kopi.this week super busy @ work man.:confused:
Yes, I will try to take more pics this weekend and possibly scan in what my ID has plan for our layout.
We have our windows open and there is hardly any road noise. I guess it's prob becoz we are on a high level.
Yes, we bought the unit when it was first launched in early 2006. We had wanted the unit with the front balcony and they were snapped up very quickly for the high flr units facing the sea. We settled for the walk in balcony type on a high level... initially with some reservations but my husband and I were glad that we took this unit now.
Hi dwhx74,
Wow so good can see see view every day..envy :scared-2: Since you have already collected your unit may I ask you how do you feel about the workmanship of this project? DO you require any touch up or works to be rectified?
No problem lah bro.small matter;) need any help,just gimme a buzz.Next week if you're around my area can come to my house for kopi.this week super busy @ work man.:confused:
Bz is good.
Congrats dwhx74,
Imho,if you're staying @ D15,Seaview is definetly much better than Poolview.(no offence to those staying facing Poolview).When you're back from a hetic day @ work,once you see the seaview you will feel shiok & will be relief from all stress.Im enjoying the seaview from my house everyday:) Hope you will enjoy as well.
You selling your unit at stack 04 CX?
You selling your unit at stack 04 CX?
Sorry i don't stay @ The Esta.:) Hope to own a unit for rental in future.
Sorry i don't stay @ The Esta.:) Hope to own a unit for rental in future.
Haha, you said this. I keep you in mind:)
We are first owners and just received our keys over the weekend for a relatively high flr unit (above 12th flr) Michelia, stack 04. Being the walk-in balcony layout type, we were a little nervous abt all the layout would be as the front balcony fronting seemed more popular. However, our fears were unfounded as we were pleasantly amazed by the spacious layout and spectacular full seaview right in front of us that stretches from balcony all the way to the master bedroom.
Joe, you were right, the rain didn't get into the balcony during yesterday's heavy rainfall! The walk-in balcony also gives one the welcoming and open air effect. It was extremely breezy and more spacious then we had thought. From measurements, we will be able to include one table with 4 outdoor chairs. Given the spaciousness, we are going to add in the dry kitchen counter to complement the refrigerator area in the foyer before the living/dining area as recommended by our ID.
Overall we are quite happy with the layout and unit, although we felt certain areas like the lift lobby and basement lobby designs could be improved. I will try to take some pics for upload soon.
Wow, can let me have your ID's contact? Please share your ID plan if you don't mind? Mine is also 1313 walk-in balcony, want to get some ideas on how to reno. :beats-me-man: Have arranged for key collection on Sat only, too busy.
Haha, you said this. I keep you in mind:)
Sure.Unless i tio toto.:tongue3:
Honestly,i would love to own 1 more unit in D15 for rental.:D i can't buy anymore properties @ the moment,Bank will Axe me!year end garment tax pay like a fool.need to sell 1 unit first before buying another unit hahaha..lol:ashamed1:
Wow, can let me have your ID's contact? Please share your ID plan if you don't mind? Mine is also 1313 walk-in balcony, want to get some ideas on how to reno. :beats-me-man: Have arranged for key collection on Sat only, too busy.
Could I have the ID contact too? Wonder how it would be for the layout that dwhx74 mentioned.
East Lover
25-11-08, 11:25
Don't think can fix in the piano. Bookcase no problem. Yes, I have 3+1 and 4 bedder too. Need to confirm when can view. :)
Hi Joe, have you compared the bed room size with the Sea View? much reasonable? got space after put King size + 2 bed side tables?
Hi Joe, have you compared the bed room size with the Sea View? much reasonable? got space after put King size + 2 bed side tables?
For the 3+1 room. Should be ok to put in the King size bed. Dont think side table is good cause it will make the room look small and untidy. Room size more reasonable then seaview. This is wat I feel:)
East Lover
25-11-08, 13:04
Just got my credit card statement from OCBC. there is an annual fee of $50 for IKEA Friends Visa Card. Usually bank is willing to waive the annual fee easily, now they only agree to waive $25?! :confused:
What's wrong with all the banks? The economic really that bad meh?:beats-me-man:
Just got my credit card statement from OCBC. there is an annual fee of $50 for IKEA Friends Visa Card. Usually bank is willing to waive the annual fee easily, now they only agree to waive $25?! :confused:
What's wrong with all the banks? The economic really that bad meh?:beats-me-man:
Wat has these got to do with Esta ??? :doh:
East Lover
25-11-08, 16:52
Wat has these got to do with Esta ??? :doh:
first, don't know how to delete the posted one...
second, if economic so bad, bank tighten everything even the cridit card annual fee, shall we need to review the situation twice before commit any purchasing?
East Lover
25-11-08, 17:08
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/joe6816/SNC00283-1.jpg
Washing Machine(Eletrolux)
Dryer(Forgotten the name, think start with R)
Able to add one sliding door between the kitchen and service balcony? otherwise all the cooking smoke will surely dirty the laundry there.
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