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Intrepid Explorer 2.0
02-02-07, 16:11
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wassup
08-02-07, 17:17
What's up with this condo man? It's been so long since they TOP but still not sold out? Even the building exterior is showing signs of age already!

Realtor
14-05-08, 12:44
Hi,

Have a 2+study unit at Tessarina for sale.

1055sqft. Wel-renovated.

Asking 1250psf.

reply via this thread if interested.

Rgds

Realtor
25-05-08, 23:11
Hi,
2 + study unit for sale

1055sqft. Asking 1250psf nego

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Realtor
25-05-08, 23:14
Hi,

3brm Ground floor unit for sale

1679sqft. Asking 1150psf neg

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lookingforprop
14-06-08, 01:24
Hi Realtor,

In order to value a property with patio on the ground floor, could you elaborate how do you calculate the price please?

Heard that psf only half for the patio area concerned for calculation, is that true?

Thanks in advance.

Realtor
17-06-08, 11:41
Hi,

Normally the asking price (in term of psf) is lower than the normal units as ground floor usually come with patio.

For the calculation of the price, it will not base on separate areas (liveable area and patio) to calculate on.

SP specialist
17-07-08, 12:34
Tessarina 3brm units for rent

Both available immd. Unblock poolview

Well-kept condition

1313sqft - P/furn. Asking 5.8k

1313sqft - F/furn. Asking 6k

Call 96337533 for more information

Rgds

One third
17-07-08, 21:10
General rule of thumb is 1/3 for patio area.
Hi Realtor,

In order to value a property with patio on the ground floor, could you elaborate how do you calculate the price please?

Heard that psf only half for the patio area concerned for calculation, is that true?

Thanks in advance.

Unregistered1
05-08-08, 23:33
Tessarina 3+1 unit on sale

1313sqft. Best poolview facing with no noon sun!

Tip Top condition.

Asking 1220psf neg

Call 96337533 for viewing appointment if interested.

Rgds

xebay11
20-11-09, 09:44
I read that Tessarina basement carpark was flooded in the recent rain......I think many owners would want to sell now, prices of the units become half?

Kenshinto80
20-11-09, 13:16
I read that Tessarina basement carpark was flooded in the recent rain......I think many owners would want to sell now, prices of the units become half?

Oh ya, no wonder I found the name "Tessarina" so familiar! It appeared on Straits Times Bukit Timah flood news.

xebay11
20-11-09, 13:23
Don't think the car owners can claim damages for their cars in the car park right?

Cactus72
20-11-09, 14:38
Don't think the car owners can claim damages for their cars in the car park right?

Now we know D10 isn't that fantastic to stay afterall. Somehow, it just send a reminder to us that this place is a low lying area and flood prone. Even if you stay at top floor, your car is going to be submerged in water unless you have MSCP to keep your car above ground level.

xebay11
20-11-09, 14:43
Like living in Venice. Maybe the Tessarina should be renamed 'The Sail' :D

teddybear
20-11-09, 14:46
Oh yah, no wonder many of those new condos at BT now have multi-storey above ground car parks rather than underground basement car parks. But hor, multi-storey above ground car parks looks cheap-skate lah, like HDB car parks, and also environmentally not so good (not clean as carbon monoxide drift downwards) for residents using ground floor facilities.


Now we know D10 isn't that fantastic to stay afterall. Somehow, it just send a reminder to us that this place is a low lying area and flood prone. Even if you stay at top floor, your car is going to be submerged in water unless you have MSCP to keep your car above ground level.

gfoo
20-11-09, 17:48
Bt Timah Bay - waterfront living

mezo
20-11-09, 21:59
Picture from Straits Time.

proud owner
20-11-09, 22:49
Don't think the car owners can claim damages for their cars in the car park right?


this is considered natural disater ..i doubt can claim ..

sleek
20-11-09, 22:52
this is considered natural disater ..i doubt can claim ..

But isn't the flooding cause by poor design of the drainage and pumps, since its a basement, and the design should take into account such factors? :rolleyes:

proud owner
20-11-09, 22:56
But isn't the flooding cause by poor design of the drainage and pumps, since its a basement, and the design should take into account such factors? :rolleyes:

but the poor design starts from the outside., the whole canal was overflowing....so claim from govt ???

thats why the front row houses along dunearn rd has a reserve ..which the govt can take back anytime .. if need to raise the land to prevent water flowing inward

sleek
20-11-09, 23:09
but the poor design starts from the outside., the whole canal was overflowing....so claim from govt ???

thats why the front row houses along dunearn rd has a reserve ..which the govt can take back anytime .. if need to raise the land to prevent water flowing inward

But did you noticed that the CTE & KPE Tunnels never floods, because the pumps and drainages are designed to take care of the heavy deluge of rain. :beats-me-man:

xebay11
21-11-09, 06:22
But did you noticed that the CTE & KPE Tunnels never floods, because the pumps and drainages are designed to take care of the heavy deluge of rain. :beats-me-man:

Never say never, the Bukit Timah Canal has been through major works to prevent floods too but you can never stop nature.

xebay11
21-11-09, 06:25
Picture from Straits Time.

Looks like many cars total write off, poor thing, must be millions of dollars of damage, and no where to turn to.

Cactus72
21-11-09, 08:06
Looks like many cars total write off, poor thing, must be millions of dollars of damage, and no where to turn to.

Wah today's newspaper, ferrari and porche being towed out of the basement carpark! Pain pain pain! :doh:

cheerful
21-11-09, 16:44
Looks like many cars total write off, poor thing, must be millions of dollars of damage, and no where to turn to.

aiyah, these people have money, no worries for them.....

Property_Owner
21-11-09, 16:49
now this place will have more sellers then buyers

xebay11
21-11-09, 22:17
now this place will have more sellers then buyers

Cars or units?

xebay11
21-11-09, 22:19
Wah today's newspaper, ferrari and porche being towed out of the basement carpark! Pain pain pain! :doh:

Better not buy second hand Ferrari or Porsche for the time being, please post numbers of the cars, I believe one Ferrari was registered as 1717.

Regulators
21-11-09, 23:10
pay good money for the condo, park your ferrari there and have it damaged by floods. :doh:

dtrax
22-11-09, 03:16
As one of the residents who was interviewed in the newspaper.. that place is so "3rd world" :scared-4:

Cactus72
22-11-09, 09:09
pay good money for the condo, park your ferrari there and have it damaged by floods. :doh:

There is difference being rich and poor. Like the ferrari owner, the car is bought under his company's name. He doesn't have to fork out a single cent to own and drive a sport car. Somehow, I wonder what justification is there for a company to buy a ferrari for its director. But, that is up to the shareholders to question them and these shareholders may be the directors too.
But then again, buying a car under company's name reduces company's corporate tax. If he had bought under his name, he cannot claim tax deductions for personal tax for his purchase of car. Isn't this a loophole?

coburn
22-11-09, 12:39
There is difference being rich and poor. Like the ferrari owner, the car is bought under his company's name. He doesn't have to fork out a single cent to own and drive a sport car. Somehow, I wonder what justification is there for a company to buy a ferrari for its director. But, that is up to the shareholders to question them and these shareholders may be the directors too.
But then again, buying a car under company's name reduces company's corporate tax. If he had bought under his name, he cannot claim tax deductions for personal tax for his purchase of car. Isn't this a loophole?

Nope, there is no loophole.
Private car expenses are not tax deductible.
The company cannot claim capital allowance on the cost as well.

focus
22-11-09, 13:45
Nope, there is no loophole.
Private car expenses are not tax deductible.
The company cannot claim capital allowance on the cost as well.
Think the only expenses are the petrol and maintenance associated with it.

But this CEO also buay paisay.. go on paper to say is bought by company and used as a reward for the directors to use..

uh.. u put the ferrari in your house.. u think ur directors dare to ask you to lend the car for him to drive ah.. keke


Anyway, common practise for companies to do that... My ex-gf's father is the owner of a listed company and they registered personal cars under the company.. all paid for by shareholders.. if not, it's houses bought under company and rental paid by the "occupiers".

august
22-11-09, 13:48
Buy under company name but for personal use, IRAS will lump back the car expenses back to him and include under his taxable income... correct me if i am wrong ~

jlrx
22-11-09, 15:10
But this CEO also buay paisay.. go on paper to say is bought by company and used as a reward for the directors to use..

But now everyone knows about his "EPS group of companies which specialises in IT manpower outsourcing".

http://www.eps.com.sg/

Very good advertisement!

That's why there is a Chinese saying "Water" is "Money" ...

Reporter
29-11-09, 23:27
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Bukit Timah is still hot property
Elysa Chen
The New Paper
Saturday, 28 November 2009

http://www.asiaone.com/a1media/business/11Nov09/images/20091126.172114_btimahflood1.jpg

It seems that even Mother Nature can't do anything to temper the property craze in Singapore.

Property agent Judy Ong was hoping that the headline-grabbing floods that turned one Bukit Timah condominium's basement carpark into a giant swimming pool would lead to lower prices there.

Ms Ong, 45, who is marketing a unit at the Tessarina, said: "If I find a keen buyer, I will use the flash floods to persuade the owner to lower the price."

Home owners at the 443-unit Tessarina, it seems, are still asking for "ridiculously high" prices, she added.

Ms Ong said the market price of units of around 1,400 sqft is $1.2 million to $1.3 million each.

Some owners, however, are asking for "sky-high" prices of $1.7 million. Checks with other property agents confirmed this.

She said: "At those prices, most people would rather get a new condominium unit."

Property experts feel that the flash floods will not put a damper on prices.

Last Thursday, more than 100 cars in the Tessarina's underground carpark were submerged in rain water after an unusually heavy downpour caused a flash flood. 4 cars in the basement carpark of the Sixth Avenue Centre, along Bukit Timah Road, also suffered the same fate.

Recounting the flood problem in Bukit Timah, a low-lying area with a history of flooding that stretches back to the 1930s, property investor Marlene Chong said prices of houses there skyrocketed after works were carried out to solve the problem.

Madam Chong, who is in her 70s, has been investing in property for 40 years.

She said: "Foreigners like buying property there. There are good schools, so that is prime area. If I could, I would also capitalise on this opportunity to buy a piece of property there. But I doubt prices will fall as the flooding is a small problem."

PropNex CEO Mohamed Ismail, said interest in the area remains strong as it is an enclave for the wealthy.

He said: "Property owners in Bukit Timah enjoy a certain status, so the flash floods, which are a short-term problem, would have little impact on property prices."

He noted that prices of landed property there would range from $1,100 to $1,200 psf, while condominium apartments could fetch as much as $1,500psf.

Ms Ivy Lee, CEO of Ivy Lee Realty, said the flash floods had not caused any panic-selling among her clients, and that sales at her project, The Linear, in Upper Bukit Timah, are good.

Re/Max Empire Property Group CEO David Cheang said it was too early to tell if the flash floods had any effect on property prices as it had only been a week since they occurred.

He added that there were factors bigger than the occasional flash flood driving up property prices, such as people with money to spare in search of investment opportunities.

"Financial instruments are no longer as attractive as they used to be, so people are turning to investing in property. With the integrated resorts coming up, more high-net-worth individuals will be attracted to Singapore, pushing the market forward."

The head of special projects at HSR Property Group, Mr Dennis Yong, said prices would hold stable as the flooding situation is a problem that can be fixed.

He said: "It's not as if the property is haunted - that's the one problem that property agents are scared of."

As Singapore does not experience heavy rain every day, he said, home owners in the area are not panic-selling.

But he added cheekily: "If there's any seller who wants to sell his property in the Bukit Timah area because of the flash floods, I wouldn't mind buying it. It might be a good buy."

calvenng
21-07-10, 20:44
Is this condo still worth $1200 psf after so much bad publicity.
Even if a unit there is free I might not even consider.:p
Maybe they should convert the basement carpark into a swimming pool.
Glad I m not a residents there.:D

With heavy traffic jam almost daily n the recent floods, living in Bukit Timah must be a nightmare.:scared-3:

Wild Falcon
21-07-10, 21:34
Traffic is ok in Bukit Timah. As for flooding, low lying and flood-prone areas like Bukit Timah, Katong, Telok Kurau, Orchard, Thomson, Newton, Upper Thomson, Bishan, Changi etc. would always be high-risk area. Our government already say it is impossible to prevent flooding in such low-lying areas. So if you're smart about it, for your primary residence, choose areas on higher grounds.

proud owner
22-07-10, 01:11
Traffic is ok in Bukit Timah. As for flooding, low lying and flood-prone areas like Bukit Timah, Katong, Telok Kurau, Orchard, Thomson, Newton, Upper Thomson, Bishan, Changi etc. would always be high-risk area. Our government already say it is impossible to prevent flooding in such low-lying areas. So if you're smart about it, for your primary residence, choose areas on higher grounds.

Go west coast GO


now do we all know why D5 is doing well ?

teddybear
22-07-10, 08:00
D5 has the invisible toxic in the air that has long-term slow effects that people don't know and can't concretely measure and prove - that is even more dangerous! :p


Go west coast GO


now do we all know why D5 is doing well ?

cher
22-07-10, 08:55
D5 has the invisible toxic in the air that has long-term slow effects that people don't know and can't concretely measure and prove - that is even more dangerous! :p


If this is true, Sentosa area will be equally if not worst affected:doh:

teddybear
22-07-10, 09:39
I believe so, Tsunami and it will disappear too (another hazard). Water level rising and it will flood too. Any way, some people will say this is an "Act of God" and nobody can do anything! :p
People should start buying Amphi-vehicle. :scared-1:
Also, better live in high-rise units as ground floor units may get flooded completely. (for estate with basement car park, they should be thankful that luckily it is the basement car park taking the flooding water and not their apartments!). Landed property residents sleeping in ground floor bedroom better watch out (can get drown without knowing when sleeping at night)! :eek:
Condos & Apts with multi-storey car parks (MSCP) will start to sing praises about the advantage of MSCP when flooding (but truth is developers build it not because of possible flooding but because it is so much much cheaper to build MSCP vs basement car park and MSCP just look cheap-skate and not healthy for residents and not green-conscious! :scared-2:)


If this is true, Sentosa area will be equally if not worst affected:doh:

mogyi
22-07-10, 10:22
I believe so, Tsunami and it will disappear too (another hazard). Water level rising and it will flood too. Any way, some people will say this is an "Act of God" and nobody can do anything! :p
People should start buying Amphi-vehicle. :scared-1:
Also, better live in high-rise units as ground floor units may get flooded completely. (for estate with basement car park, they should be thankful that luckily it is the basement car park taking the flooding water and not their apartments!). Landed property residents sleeping in ground floor bedroom better watch out (can get drown without knowing when sleeping at night)! :eek:
Condos & Apts with multi-storey car parks (MSCP) will start to sing praises about the advantage of MSCP when flooding (but truth is developers build it not because of possible flooding but because it is so much much cheaper to build MSCP vs basement car park and MSCP just look cheap-skate and not healthy for residents and not green-conscious! :scared-2:)

yup, as far as developver is concern..it's the cost of basement against MSCP. They dont give a shit about yr flood! only their bottom line matters to them

Lovelle
22-07-10, 10:52
This morning rain heavily. How is Tessarina ?

sfwoo
22-07-10, 11:36
Go west coast GO


now do we all know why D5 is doing well ?

I not so sure...I live in D5...and a large part of D5 is AT sea level.

Time to buy a boat?

stalingrad
22-07-10, 12:17
I not so sure...I live in D5...and a large part of D5 is AT sea level.

Time to buy a boat?

he he, I have lived in D5 for 14 years and have never seen a flood as of today. Our carpark is dry like a desert. heard that we are on a higher ground.

amk
22-07-10, 13:26
can some one tell me if this Tessarina is within 1km of any school ?

stalingrad
22-07-10, 13:54
can some one tell me if this Tessarina is within 1km of any school ?

I heard it is within 1 km of singapore swimming school, and singapore tow truck school. haha, don't count on me, my hearing is not so good.

rattydrama
22-07-10, 23:24
can some one tell me if this Tessarina is within 1km of any school ?


Nearest Schools
Methodist Girls' School (0.67 km)
Swiss School (1.13 km)
German European School (Main) (1.39 km)

from property guru

proud owner
22-07-10, 23:28
If this is true, Sentosa area will be equally if not worst affected:doh:


maybe that china bird smelled the toxic air .. fainted and drowned in that sentosa bungalow pool ???

proud owner
22-07-10, 23:31
I not so sure...I live in D5...and a large part of D5 is AT sea level.

Time to buy a boat?


You live Not on pasir panjang hill ?

You live Not on Kent ridge ?

You live along Pasir panjang rd ?

fret Not .. unless you are living on the side closest to the highway ..

if there's flood, those will kana first .. and they will 'absorb' the impact and the water first

proper-t
23-07-10, 10:34
If die die must stay in Bukit Timah area and want to avoid floods, the best is at the top of the Shelford road vicinity. If you drive into Shelford Rd, you will notice that it slopes upwards towards a hill. The peak is around Kellet court/Nineteen Shelford. After Nineteen shelford, you will notice that the road slopes downward again. If you walk from Adam Rd, you will notice that there is a grassy knoll with steps upwards that you can take into Shelford rd. That area should be the highest point around the Cluny/Hwa Chong area. What's more within 1 km of nanyang primary. Unfortunately, a lot construction going on at Shelford Rd. Traffic is the pits.

devilplate
23-07-10, 10:36
If die die must stay in Bukit Timah area and want to avoid floods, the best is at the top of the Shelford road vicinity. If you drive into Shelford Rd, you will notice that it slopes upwards towards a hill. The peak is around Kellet court/Nineteen Shelford. After Nineteen shelford, you will notice that the road slopes downward again. If you walk from Adam Rd, you will notice that there is a grassy knoll with steps that you can walk up into Shelford rd. That area should be the highest point around the Cluny/Hwa Chong area. Unfortunately, a lot construction going on at Shelford Rd. Traffic is the pits.

agree...but if the drainage system is choked or not designed properly...everywhr can also flood and not just low lying areas rite?

proper-t
23-07-10, 10:42
agree...but if the drainage system is choked or not designed properly...everywhr can also flood and not just low lying areas rite?

Yah but you forget even with massive rainfall, the basement carparks of all the condos and shopping centres along Adam rd and Dunearn Rd (Cluny court/serene ctr, crown, coronation) become the water collection points so they will drain away the water for you even before it reaches you at Shelford.

stalingrad
23-07-10, 11:20
Yah but you forget even with massive rainfall, the basement carparks of all the condos and shopping centres along Adam rd and Dunearn Rd (Cluny court/serene ctr, crown, coronation) become the water collection points so they will drain away the water for you even before it reaches you at Shelford.

haha, you are using tessarina's carpark as your reservoir. how cruel!!! but how smart!!!

livenlove
23-07-10, 11:49
Seems to be a lot of gloating over the misfortune of others, when we should be in solidarity/empathy with our fellow sing-condo owners.
Lets hope this will remain a good, useful and respected forum that doesn't degrade to such low levels (pun unintended)

Mabel
23-07-10, 13:09
Flooding has always been around Bt Timah ever since donkey years ago when I went to school there and got caught in the flood (no exams :) ). Flooding is not a new thing there but condo-flooding is new. Singapore is sinking with heavy construction, water level is rising with global warming, flooding will be prevalent in the future like every 1 or 2 weeks. We may have to build a barrage around Bt Timah or turn it into a massive reservoir filling up to the height of Bt Timah hill. Or we can pump in billions there and turn the area into the Venice of Singapore. Whichever way, I am convinced flooding in BT Timah will only get worse before it gets better.

leslens
23-07-10, 13:15
prices are indeed hit

look at the NEXUS
last two transactions 1119 and 1130 PSF

good luck to those sellers asking 1300psf

sfwoo
23-07-10, 14:34
I am convinced flooding in BT Timah will only get worse before it gets better.

I thought got tender open to widen and deepen Bukit Timah Canal?

devilplate
23-07-10, 14:47
prices are indeed hit

look at the NEXUS
last two transactions 1119 and 1130 PSF

good luck to those sellers asking 1300psf

957 Bukit Timah Road #01-14
Freehold
$1132
1206
$1365k
07 Jul 10
951 Bukit Timah Road #05-03
Freehold
$1119
947
$1060k
06 Jul 10
953 Bukit Timah Road #06-09
Freehold
$1267
592
$750k
12 Apr 10
951 Bukit Timah Road #06-04
Freehold
$1161
947
$1100k
25 Mar 10
963 Bukit Timah Road #08-25
Freehold
$1205
1345
$1622k
10 Feb 10
953 Bukit Timah Road #07-06
Freehold
$1531
947
$1450k
02 Feb 10


looks pretty stable....but indeed sliding if u were to compare it with that one transacted at 1531psf...big silly carrot?

wesing
23-07-10, 14:54
That silly carrot dunno kena con by who? Agent and former owner laughing to the bank:D :D :D Never do serious homework before buying one meh:doh: :doh: Deserved to be ripped off:D :D

devilplate
23-07-10, 14:58
That silly carrot dunno kena con by who? Agent and former owner laughing to the bank:D :D :D Never do serious homework before buying one meh:doh: :doh: Deserved to be ripped off:D :D

hope is foreigner!:D

stalingrad
23-07-10, 15:03
957 Bukit Timah Road #01-14
Freehold
$1132
1206
$1365k
07 Jul 10
951 Bukit Timah Road #05-03
Freehold
$1119
947
$1060k
06 Jul 10
953 Bukit Timah Road #06-09
Freehold
$1267
592
$750k
12 Apr 10
951 Bukit Timah Road #06-04
Freehold
$1161
947
$1100k
25 Mar 10
963 Bukit Timah Road #08-25
Freehold
$1205
1345
$1622k
10 Feb 10
953 Bukit Timah Road #07-06
Freehold
$1531
947
$1450k
02 Feb 10


looks pretty stable....but indeed sliding if u were to compare it with that one transacted at 1531psf...big silly carrot?
I thought these are the prices psf for D5. I was wrong. price convergence between D5 and D10 has arrived.

if you told me that prices in D5 and D10 would equalize in 2010, I would've called me crzay.

devilplate
23-07-10, 15:08
I thought these are the prices psf for D5. I was wrong. price convergence between D5 and D10 has arrived.

if you told me that prices in D5 and D10 would equalize in 2010, I would've called me crzay.

shd be D5 vs D21 lah:doh:

wesing
23-07-10, 15:09
hope is foreigner!:D

May be die die must buy bcoz of the superior feng shui that complement the new owner. So offer a price the former owner cannot refuse.

Former owner just top up some $ and can buy new unit at Floridian, Jardin and Cascadia oredi:D :D

stalingrad
23-07-10, 15:11
shd be D5 vs D21 lah:doh:

tessarina is D10.

teddybear
23-07-10, 15:11
D10 die already lah! :D Drop to $1000 psf I will buy! D5 drop to $500 psf I already don't want (been there surveying before at $500 psf range but not interested.)... :p


I thought these are the prices psf for D5. I was wrong. price convergence between D5 and D10 has arrived.

devilplate
23-07-10, 15:11
May be die die must buy bcoz of the superior feng shui that complement the new owner. So offer a price the former owner cannot refuse.

Former owner just top up some $ and can buy new unit at Floridian, Jardin and Cascadia oredi:D :D

no nid top up $$, take 80% loan for the new ppty and still got few hundred K cash on hand:D

devilplate
23-07-10, 15:13
tessarina is D10.

the prices above for Nexus...anyway bukit timah super long stretch...mabe u shd check out balmoral area to see the difference

PLUS: pls compare old projects PSF in D5 with old project in watever D10 or D21

stalingrad
23-07-10, 15:18
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

devilplate
23-07-10, 15:23
26 Wilby Road #01-30
Freehold
$900
1701
$1530k
12 Jun 09
26 Wilby Road #06-21
Freehold
$1000
1356
$1356k
09 Jun 09
28 Wilby Road #06-44
Freehold
$963
1335
$1285k
29 May 09
30 Wilby Road #05-47
Freehold
$959
990
$950k
27 May 09
26 Wilby Road #07-21
Freehold
$944
1356
$1280k
20 May 09
22 Wilby Road #02-19
Freehold
$922
1356
$1250k
15 May 09
22 Wilby Road #09-17
Freehold
$831
3358
$2790k
05 May 09
26 Wilby Road #08-33
Freehold
$937
1313
$1230k
04 May 09
26 Wilby Road #01-24
Freehold
$882
1109
$978k
21 Apr 09
26 Wilby Road #03-23
Freehold
$909
990
$900k
20 Apr 09

the prices for tessarina. Now it is lower than D5. and it is a new condo.

u r really a joker!!! cut and paste last yr APRIL 09 PRICES!!!

below is the latest pricing lah:

22 Wilby Road #10-10
Freehold
$1170
1367
$1600k
09 Jul 10
26 Wilby Road #06-24
Freehold
$1250
990
$1237k
02 Jul 10
26 Wilby Road #01-31
Freehold
$1233
1647
$2030k
21 Jun 10
26 Wilby Road #03-30
Freehold
$1156
1367
$1580k
07 Jun 10
26 Wilby Road #05-29
Freehold
$1199
1335
$1600k
21 May 10
26 Wilby Road #09-26
Freehold
$1327
980
$1300k
13 May 10
28 Wilby Road #03-42
Freehold
$1280
990
$1268k
12 May 10
26 Wilby Road #03-21
Freehold
$1230
1356
$1667k
30 Apr 10
30 Wilby Road #05-49
Freehold
$1185
1335
$1582k
20 Apr 10

devilplate
23-07-10, 15:25
some mass market studios oredi hit above 1400psf+!

so if u use super MM units 3xxsqft studio PSF to compare D10 prices..YES, u r right! prices not only converge and even overtaken CCR OREDI!!!:D

stalingrad
23-07-10, 15:35
some mass market studios oredi hit above 1400psf+!

so if u use super MM units 3xxsqft studio PSF to compare D10 prices..YES, u r right! prices not only converge and even overtaken CCR OREDI!!!:D
oops, you are too fast for me. I deleted my post after realizing that I copied the wrong page of the list on streetsine.

but there is no denying that the gap between D5 and D10 is narrowing. it may disappear altogether if the flooding thing doesn't get resolved.

xebay11
23-07-10, 15:48
Tessarina is at the tail end of D10, even if it is under D10, the surrounding is still D21 surroundings. Most of savy buyers still consider this place as D21, so I don't see the point in comparing prices of this D10 project and those in D5.

Whatever floats your boat.

devilplate
23-07-10, 15:51
he only familiar with his area lah :D

but itsok...let him hf a gd nite dreams lor:D

xebay11
23-07-10, 15:51
Seems to be a lot of gloating over the misfortune of others, when we should be in solidarity/empathy with our fellow sing-condo owners.
Lets hope this will remain a good, useful and respected forum that doesn't degrade to such low levels (pun unintended)

Very sad indeed, but one bad apple in the barrel should not spoil the whole lot.

Cheers.

leslens
23-07-10, 17:27
10xx ->11xx->12xx->15xx->12xx->11xx

stabilising or dropping?

u make the call

maisonjai
23-07-10, 23:33
hope is foreigner!:D

:doh: u very evil :scared-1:

Q&A
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/question/46639/i-am-moving-to-a-new-condo-which-i-have-found-in-p

I am moving to a new condo which i have found in property guru by Aug 2010. While in the US for a business trip last week, I heard from the news that the car park of the condo I am moving into was submerged in water. May I please know what are my options? Can I back out from my contract? Can I have an assurance that the condo property management will do somethign about it? As I read through the history of the condo, this was not the first flooding in the condo. it is the second in 8 months. I travel a lot and I normally leave my car in the parking area of my current place. The same will be my case when I move in to Tessarina. Can you please give me some advise as the turnover of keys will happen this Sunday. Thank you. regards, Larry

Posted by Larry de Vera - Jul 23, 2010

devilplate
23-07-10, 23:40
10xx ->11xx->12xx->15xx->12xx->11xx

stabilising or dropping?

u make the call

r u new to ppty scene? or jus wana trying to be funny?haha:D :D :D

dun act cute leh...:tongue3:

no wonder really got some big carrot bot into those 'low psf' tat comes with big patio/roof terrace/pool etc and tot they got a bargain

devilplate
23-07-10, 23:44
:doh: u very evil :scared-1:

Q&A
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/question/46639/i-am-moving-to-a-new-condo-which-i-have-found-in-p

I am moving to a new condo which i have found in property guru by Aug 2010. While in the US for a business trip last week, I heard from the news that the car park of the condo I am moving into was submerged in water. May I please know what are my options? Can I back out from my contract? Can I have an assurance that the condo property management will do somethign about it? As I read through the history of the condo, this was not the first flooding in the condo. it is the second in 8 months. I travel a lot and I normally leave my car in the parking area of my current place. The same will be my case when I move in to Tessarina. Can you please give me some advise as the turnover of keys will happen this Sunday. Thank you. regards, Larry

Posted by Larry de Vera - Jul 23, 2010

big fish eat small fish....tats the fact mah...hehe

i kena eaten till no bones for buying a holiday home in NZ last time ....cry till no tears:(

leslens
24-07-10, 00:58
r u new to ppty scene? or jus wana trying to be funny?haha:D :D :D

dun act cute leh...:tongue3:

no wonder really got some big carrot bot into those 'low psf' tat comes with big patio/roof terrace/pool etc and tot they got a bargain

ok let me analyse it for you then
since u are obviously glossing over details with blunderblast statements

957 Bukit Timah Road #01-14
level 1 unit facing Main road, high ceiling
"bad unit"
$1132
1206
$1365k
07 Jul 10
951 Bukit Timah Road #05-03
Mid Floor, considered quiet facing once construction of floridian over "ideal unit"
$1119
947
$1060k
06 Jul 10
953 Bukit Timah Road #06-09
facing small road, WEST sun
"bad unit"
$1267
592
$750k
12 Apr 10
951 Bukit Timah Road #06-04
Mid Floor, facing floridian, corner unit with some west sun, dustbin collection downstairs
$1161
947
$1100k
25 Mar 10
963 Bukit Timah Road #08-25
Pool facing, good or bad up to personal preference since blocks are close
$1205
1345
$1622k
10 Feb 10
953 Bukit Timah Road #07-06
Faces Main Road
$1531
947
$1450k
02 Feb 10
963 Bukit Timah Road #05-22
"quiet facing"
$1085
1335
$1448k
29 Jan 10
955 Bukit Timah Road #10-13
faces Main road, high floor
$1163
1195
$1390k
26 Jan 10
955 Bukit Timah Road #02-12
level 2, faces East, pool
$1157
1055
$1220k
26 Jan 10
951 Bukit Timah Road #02-03
Dustbin collection, some west sun
$1056
947
$1000k
25 Jan 10
957 Bukit Timah Road #10-17
pool facing
$1203
1496
$1800k
21 Jan 10
957 Bukit Timah Road #05-15
Main road
$1153
1206
$1390k
22 Dec 09
953 Bukit Timah Road #07-07
West sun
$1231
614
$755k
13 Nov 09
951 Bukit Timah Road #08-04
Freehold
$1130
947
$1070k
09 Nov 09
961 Bukit Timah Road #03-19
Dustbin site below, west sun
$1102
1507
$1660k
12 Oct 09
961 Bukit Timah Road #02-18
pool facing
$1084
1485
$1610k
12 Oct 09
951 Bukit Timah Road #03-02
pool facing, east
$1103
1378
$1520k
02 Sep 09
955 Bukit Timah Road #02-11
pool facing
$1100
1345
$1479k
21 Aug 09
953 Bukit Timah Road #05-05
west sun, main road
$1119
947
$1060k
19 Aug 09
953 Bukit Timah Road #09-09
west sun, nice unit number
$1166
592
$690k
14 Aug 09


my personal observation
August - November (3 months) : PSF 10XX to 11XX, total 8 transactions
November - Feb (3 months) : PSF 10XX to 15XX, 4 transactions above 12XX, total 10 transactions
March to July (5 months): PSF 11xx-12xx, 1 transaction above 12xx, total only 4 transactions

trend slightly more obvious now?
this is a forum, hope people can contribute more to the understanding of property pricing and timing in a meaningful manner

I probably have made some errors above in my very brief analysis of things, so please put them out to me

to me, the overal picture of reduced transactions widely reported is maintained looking at a single project, in this case, The Nexus

This project is no longer setting record high PSFs which to me is an indicator of reduced market fever.

To some extent, one may argue prices are stabilising, one may also say prices are dropping, but its takes a brave soul to say prices are RISING as the property adds will have u believe

a quick search on NEXUS will reveal asking prices of PSF 13XX to 14XX
now the question is, will these units transact at these prices?

Lookin at the trend, i guess not.

The drop in resale transaction numbers mirror and are probably greater % wise compared to sales of new developements. The resale market is quiet.

July would be crucial, since August is a traditional low volume month due to the ghost month"

devilplate
24-07-10, 01:05
i lazy to read all ur comment...

but u nid to noe smaller units psf r higher den bigger sized units regardless gd or bad facing.

for eg. waterbank...studio highest psf(facing HDB) 14xxpsf while a 3bedder(best river view facing) 1300psf for top flr...these r developer price...

dunwan to argue wif u...u tink prices r dropping...ok lor...u happy can liao:D

But i sense tat u feel prices r dropping BUT u cannot get anything cheap in the market now...thus u r frustrated ....but it is useless to keep shouting prices r sliding down in this forum...u will need a bigger exposure....

ura just reported another qtr of HDB/pte ppty price increase:D

jlrx
24-07-10, 01:10
No need to analyse so hard. All these statistics are published by the government.

Wait for the full news tomorrow.

Jul 23, 2010

Private home prices up

By Joyce Teo

http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/image/20100723/ST_16807615.jpg
In the landed home segment, prices rose by a slower rate of 6.2 per cent in the second quarter, compared with 8.3 per cent in the first. -- ST PHOTO: ALPHONSUS CHERN


PRIVATE home prices rose 5.3 per cent in the second quarter, compared with 5.6 per cent in the first quarter, said the Urban Redevelopment Authority.
Non-landed home prices climbed 5 per cent in the second quarter, compared with 4.9 per cent in the previous quarter.
In the landed home segment, prices rose by a slower rate of 6.2 per cent in the second quarter, compared with 8.3 per cent in the first.
Prices of detached, semi-detached and terrace houses rose by 6.8 per cent, 6 per cent and 5.6 per cent respectively.
The other property sectors also saw prices increases in the second quarter.
Office prices were up 4.6 per cent, shop prices up 3.9 per cent and prices of industrial properties up 5.7 per cent.

proud owner
24-07-10, 01:49
Tessarina is at the tail end of D10, even if it is under D10, the surrounding is still D21 surroundings. Most of savy buyers still consider this place as D21, so I don't see the point in comparing prices of this D10 project and those in D5.

Whatever floats your boat.


so is Sky@11 it is the fringe of D11 .. and the beginning of D12

yet people still say its PRIME

so is One Jervoise .. Fringe of D9 beginning of D3 .. also expensive what


if only buyers and sellers can identify the difference between real PRIME District and Fringe Prime district ...

so long as it falls in that district .. it is considered to comparable to those in the center of the District

sad case really

leslens
24-07-10, 01:54
i lazy to read all ur comment...

but u nid to noe smaller units psf r higher den bigger sized units regardless gd or bad facing.

for eg. waterbank...studio highest psf(facing HDB) 14xxpsf while a 3bedder(best river view facing) 1300psf for top flr...these r developer price...

dunwan to argue wif u...u tink prices r dropping...ok lor...u happy can liao:D

But i sense tat u feel prices r dropping BUT u cannot get anything cheap in the market now...thus u r frustrated ....but it is useless to keep shouting prices r sliding down in this forum...u will need a bigger exposure....

ura just reported another qtr of HDB/pte ppty price increase:D

bro, if people dunno this, i think no need to talk liao la
"but u nid to noe smaller units psf r higher den bigger sized units regardless gd or bad facing."

but agreed, no need to debate such things, market will dictate its direction.

proud owner
24-07-10, 02:00
bro, if people dunno this, i think no need to talk liao la
"but u nid to noe smaller units psf r higher den bigger sized units regardless gd or bad facing."

but agreed, no need to debate such things, market will dictate its direction.

market is left to find its own direction

this is only possible if people in this forum are true to themselves ..

reporting ALL news .... but good and bad ..

we still see alot of GOOD NEWS reporting only .. or NEW HIGH .. but never report ..NEW LOW / or LOWER PSF

these reportings are propaganda ..

even our newspaper are biased reporting ..
they are owned by SPH .. and SPH built Sky@11 ...

they affects the untrained minds ...

so do you think MARKET CAN BE LEFT TO FIND ITS OWN DIRECTION .. ?

leslens
24-07-10, 02:03
market is left to find its own direction

this is only possible if people in this forum are true to themselves ..

reporting ALL news .... but good and bad ..

we still see alot of GOOD NEWS reporting only .. or NEW HIGH .. but never report ..NEW LOW / or LOWER PSF

these reportings are propaganda ..

even our newspaper are biased reporting ..
they are owned by SPH .. and SPH built Sky@11 ...

they affects the untrained minds ...

so do you think MARKET CAN BE LEFT TO FIND ITS OWN DIRECTION .. ?

well , sadly, market will find its own direction perhaps only when its too late

boom then bust.

devilplate
24-07-10, 09:41
there r many forums who just report bad news and ignore gd news:D

migrate over there if u feel happier and motivated over there:D

i am not here to predict future market direction bcoz i am not god...if u tink u r so good in spotting market trend...y spot ppty market....go fry forex and become millionaire within the fastest time.

devilplate
24-07-10, 09:56
market is left to find its own direction

this is only possible if people in this forum are true to themselves ..

reporting ALL news .... but good and bad ..

we still see alot of GOOD NEWS reporting only .. or NEW HIGH .. but never report ..NEW LOW / or LOWER PSF

these reportings are propaganda ..

even our newspaper are biased reporting ..
they are owned by SPH .. and SPH built Sky@11 ...

they affects the untrained minds ...

so do you think MARKET CAN BE LEFT TO FIND ITS OWN DIRECTION .. ?

u tink can make easy $ by reading forum, by reading newspaper, by watching CNN etc? lol:D

i am sure many many miss the bull run last yr....during last yr jan-may....forum is either dead quiet or the bears r shouting DROP MORE CRASH MORE!!! tat period, everybody says W shaped or even L shaped recovery....den how....suddenly V shaped recovery....even during the period of june to sept: alot of miss the boat followers still shouting FAKE BULL....since no L shaped oredi......they change their stand to W W W!!!:D just one yr ago...u forget liao ar???

ppty investment is about strategies and holding power:D u can spot the trend correct this time....but r u sure u gona be right all the time? one wrong move in future and u r dead:D

devilplate
24-07-10, 10:08
bro, if people dunno this, i think no need to talk liao la
"but u nid to noe smaller units psf r higher den bigger sized units regardless gd or bad facing."

but agreed, no need to debate such things, market will dictate its direction.

u r really cute:D

calvenng
24-07-10, 10:27
:doh: u very evil :scared-1:

Q&A
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/question/46639/i-am-moving-to-a-new-condo-which-i-have-found-in-p

I am moving to a new condo which i have found in property guru by Aug 2010. While in the US for a business trip last week, I heard from the news that the car park of the condo I am moving into was submerged in water. May I please know what are my options? Can I back out from my contract? Can I have an assurance that the condo property management will do somethign about it? As I read through the history of the condo, this was not the first flooding in the condo. it is the second in 8 months. I travel a lot and I normally leave my car in the parking area of my current place. The same will be my case when I move in to Tessarina. Can you please give me some advise as the turnover of keys will happen this Sunday. Thank you. regards, Larry

Posted by Larry de Vera - Jul 23, 2010

Think there should be this clause in all future S & P contract :

"The purchaser can opt out or sue the vendor for damages if there is floods during heavy rain or serious defects not disclose in the said property".

Mabel
24-07-10, 10:35
I thought got tender open to widen and deepen Bukit Timah Canal?

How much deeper and wider would be enough?

spikey69
24-07-10, 11:49
ironically, in a couple of months, it may be a good time to exploit the Tessarina fire sale...if u believe that the flood issue can be sorted.

kane
24-07-10, 15:48
i heard of a case, someone attempted the contrarian strategy and bought after the first flood. the next 50 years came quickly... second flood happened.

mr funny
30-08-10, 21:02
http://www.straitstimes.com/News/Home/Story/STIStory_572293.html

Aug 29, 2010

Flood campaigner's persistence pays off

By Elgin Toh


When a 190m stretch of Wilby Road is raised in about three months from now, residents of The Tessarina condominium will have Dr Audrey Tan to thank for her quiet, but determined, campaign.

Repeated flooding of the road outside the condominium prompted the 38-year-old dermatologist to lobby national water agency PUB; her MP, Mr Christopher de Souza; and even Cabinet ministers for something to be done.

Why not raise the road level, she asked at a meeting with the PUB in March, after severe flooding four months earlier saw the condominium's underground carpark inundated, causing damage to cars that ran into the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

She said that each time she raised the matter, officials told her that it was an option but that there were budgeting issues.

She would not let up. Between then and last month, when another major flood hit the condominium badly again, she had painstakingly captured on video five separate instances when Wilby Road was fully submerged.

Each time, she would make her way to a nearby overhead bridge - umbrella in one hand, camera in the other - wading through shin-high water.

The images she captured proved critical. As a PUB spokesman noted: 'Dr Tan's videos were very informative because they showed how the floods were developing. Once we knew that, we could take action to mitigate against future flooding, and one of the measures we decided on was to raise the level of Wilby Road.'

Work to raise the road by half-a-metre - or about knee-high - will start on Wednesday. The $800,000 project will be completed by Nov 23, the spokesman added.

Doing so should prevent flood waters from flowing into the condominium's underground carpark and causing damage. The water will instead be channelled to the nearby Bukit Timah canal.

Dr Tan's efforts have won her praise from not only the PUB, but fellow residents and Mr de Souza.

Said the MP: 'Dr Tan is a good example of how residents could represent their neighbourhood in seeking improvements. This has been a wholesome experience in government-citizen partnership.'

The Tessarina made the headlines following the floodings last November and last month.

Heavy downpours caused water from the canal to overflow to the surrounding areas, including the Tessarina.

Following the floods, the Government improved road culverts, expanded roadside drains, and committed itself to deepening the Bukit Timah canal, a project that will take two years.

However, Dr Tan pointed out that the canal may still overflow in the interim - hence her call to raise the level of low-lying Wilby Road.

Among those who applauded her dogged persistence was fellow resident Tony Mok, 43: 'She put in a lot of effort and personal time, and the residents respect her for that.'

Added retiree Pauline Ong, 65: 'This is such good news. I appreciate that the decision has been reached promptly and efficiently.'

Dr Tan modestly played down her role. 'I think it's all been worth the while, even though it has not been easy. I give credit to all the agencies involved and to Mr de Souza. If they had not been so approachable and willing to help, we would not have got this far.'

proud owner
30-08-10, 23:43
http://www.straitstimes.com/News/Home/Story/STIStory_572293.html

Aug 29, 2010

Flood campaigner's persistence pays off

By Elgin Toh


When a 190m stretch of Wilby Road is raised in about three months from now, residents of The Tessarina condominium will have Dr Audrey Tan to thank for her quiet, but determined, campaign.

Repeated flooding of the road outside the condominium prompted the 38-year-old dermatologist to lobby national water agency PUB; her MP, Mr Christopher de Souza; and even Cabinet ministers for something to be done.

Why not raise the road level, she asked at a meeting with the PUB in March, after severe flooding four months earlier saw the condominium's underground carpark inundated, causing damage to cars that ran into the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

She said that each time she raised the matter, officials told her that it was an option but that there were budgeting issues.

She would not let up. Between then and last month, when another major flood hit the condominium badly again, she had painstakingly captured on video five separate instances when Wilby Road was fully submerged.

Each time, she would make her way to a nearby overhead bridge - umbrella in one hand, camera in the other - wading through shin-high water.

The images she captured proved critical. As a PUB spokesman noted: 'Dr Tan's videos were very informative because they showed how the floods were developing. Once we knew that, we could take action to mitigate against future flooding, and one of the measures we decided on was to raise the level of Wilby Road.'

Work to raise the road by half-a-metre - or about knee-high - will start on Wednesday. The $800,000 project will be completed by Nov 23, the spokesman added.

Doing so should prevent flood waters from flowing into the condominium's underground carpark and causing damage. The water will instead be channelled to the nearby Bukit Timah canal.

Dr Tan's efforts have won her praise from not only the PUB, but fellow residents and Mr de Souza.

Said the MP: 'Dr Tan is a good example of how residents could represent their neighbourhood in seeking improvements. This has been a wholesome experience in government-citizen partnership.'

The Tessarina made the headlines following the floodings last November and last month.

Heavy downpours caused water from the canal to overflow to the surrounding areas, including the Tessarina.

Following the floods, the Government improved road culverts, expanded roadside drains, and committed itself to deepening the Bukit Timah canal, a project that will take two years.

However, Dr Tan pointed out that the canal may still overflow in the interim - hence her call to raise the level of low-lying Wilby Road.

Among those who applauded her dogged persistence was fellow resident Tony Mok, 43: 'She put in a lot of effort and personal time, and the residents respect her for that.'

Added retiree Pauline Ong, 65: 'This is such good news. I appreciate that the decision has been reached promptly and efficiently.'

Dr Tan modestly played down her role. 'I think it's all been worth the while, even though it has not been easy. I give credit to all the agencies involved and to Mr de Souza. If they had not been so approachable and willing to help, we would not have got this far.'


ya ya

then pay those idiots in the ministries who what ?

to sit and do ntg and wait for the people to come up with ideas ?

xebay11
31-08-10, 13:17
She should be the one getting the ND award, how come the GFN CEO got it?

teddybear
31-08-10, 16:03
Wah, you straightaway hit their modus operandi of waiting for people to come up with ideas (otherwise no solution)? :D


ya ya

then pay those idiots in the ministries who what ?

to sit and do ntg and wait for the people to come up with ideas ?

stalingrad
17-09-10, 10:53
is the carpark alright after this morning's rain? shall we see more pictures of lambos submerged in water?

xebay11
17-09-10, 11:11
is the carpark alright after this morning's rain? shall we see more pictures of lambos submerged in water?

You seem to enjoy other's misery. Don't forget what goes around comes around someday for you.

HP65
07-03-12, 11:28
I'm monitoring these whole stretch of condos...1 unit recently transacted at $1250 psf/ $1.65m 3 bedder. Do u think its price softening or due to jam or due to flood?

zimmer
14-05-12, 15:10
I'm monitoring these whole stretch of condos...1 unit recently transacted at $1250 psf/ $1.65m 3 bedder. Do u think its price softening or due to jam or due to flood?

Flood again 2 weeks ago right?