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tt
29-09-08, 17:49
thought there was a carabelle thread here previously, anyone knows what happened to it?

steppy
30-09-08, 11:43
thought there was a carabelle thread here previously, anyone knows what happened to it?

Why not lets use this new thread to replace it?

Anone know what's the expected T.O.P?

home-run
30-09-08, 12:00
i heard from one of the owners is most likely oct 2009 :scared-1:

tt
30-09-08, 13:27
has anyone seen the showflat for Carabelle? How's the quality compare to Infiniti and Botannia?

steppy
30-09-08, 14:50
has anyone seen the showflat for Carabelle? How's the quality compare to Infiniti and Botannia?

Gosh that was so long ago! In so far as quality, i believe being a show flat, all developers would put their best foot forward - so that they can sell more!

Hence, it may not be a wise comparision. But I do recall that carabelle has natural marble flooring for the living/dining and timber strips for the bedrooms. Not sure for the rest....

Are u very close to getting one there?

tt
30-09-08, 15:50
yup, looking quite closing at getting a unit there, just the pricing. May drop the idea if the economic situation worsens.

Was actually considering the few developments there, Infiniti, Carabelle, Botannia and The Parc, but Carabelle seemed to be one of the better price condo there other than Infiniti.

How much do you think psf should be a more reasonable range for a unit in Carabelle?

home-run
30-09-08, 20:33
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home-run
30-09-08, 20:36
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30-09-08, 20:38
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30-09-08, 20:40
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30-09-08, 20:41
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30-09-08, 20:43
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30-09-08, 20:45
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Enjoy a virtual showflat of Carabelle brought to u by
Urs truly,

Home-run =)

tt
02-10-08, 08:57
Wow! Great photos Home Run, thanks. This really helps as I did not visit the showflat when Carabelle was launched, but not sure if it is the photo or the cabinets in the master bedroom does not look condo material.

Guess you have already bought a unit there? What do you think is a reasonable price to buy a unit there in this economic climate?

code01
02-10-08, 21:09
Hi fyi #0x-18 landed view 3rm 1130sqft was transacted at 735psf and #0x-23 landed view 4rm done at $730psf. Just transacted think caveat not lodge yet. Cheers

PropertiesHunter
31-10-08, 17:18
Did anyone know the size psf for this plot of land and number of units.

Unregistered11
31-10-08, 22:17
Did anyone know the size psf for this plot of land and number of units.

i believe you were asking for the size of the development. Its 237,000sq ft.

There are approx. 336 units

Black Label
07-11-08, 17:31
Hi everyone

I am new to this forum and first time buyer for private house.

I am looking for a 2 or 3 bedrooms unit in either Carabelle or Infinity. Me and my wife quite like both, but it seems Carabelle is the one to go for. Is there any agent in here specialises in both projects? Care to share the contacts?

R99C
07-11-08, 19:49
Hi everyone

I am new to this forum and first time buyer for private house.

I am looking for a 2 or 3 bedrooms unit in either Carabelle or Infinity. Me and my wife quite like both, but it seems Carabelle is the one to go for. Is there any agent in here specialises in both projects? Care to share the contacts?


i actually bought a 2 bedrm pool view unit a few mths ago from someone who posted the sale here. Paid quite a bit more than the developer price, but i thought was quite worth it cos of the following few reasons

1. Huge pool, close to olympic size, >2times wider than monterey park's-
u can get a very good view of the whole project from the overhead bridge in front of Hong Leong Shopping Centre.
2. Neighbours living opposite your units are actually quite far away, because of the big central space with the big pool and other water features
3. the car park entrance of the development is quite convenient, and less prone to congestion - imagine 800units in nearby developments trying to drive out though a small road during peak hour.
4. good walking distance to bus stop and overhead bridge
5. a nice see through glass wall big balcony for every unit, vs the grill kind which gives quite a caged up-feel
6. the layouts of the units are quite reno-friendly i find. square living rooms and bedrooms

i wont drop too many points or others may say that i'm biased. Of course, u have to look at which are the things that matters more to you. Other developments may have better furnishings.
You can visit the botannia showflat which i think it's still open.
i'm not aiming to profit from my purchase, but i'm really looking forward to TOP next year to enjoy it.

Cheers
R99

R99C
08-11-08, 12:23
just a pic i took recently on a saturday

R99C
08-11-08, 12:37
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Jason_lim
08-11-08, 13:40
i heard from one of the owners is most likely oct 2009 :scared-1:


Hi home-run,

Thanks for sharing those wonderful pictures. I must say the swimming pool and water features look very impressive.

The development is very spacious too. Nice place.

Monterey
08-11-08, 20:52
Good luck trying to get tenants when every project TOPs

Diana
08-11-08, 20:55
Hi home-run,

Thanks for sharing those wonderful pictures. I must say the swimming pool and water features look very impressive.

The development is very spacious too. Nice place.
Is the architect supervising and conforming to the local laws of the landscaping?

tt
14-11-08, 16:11
Hi R99C, may I know which stack did you buy and around how much psf did you pay for it? Don't like the bay window in the rooms, take up space and prevents full height windows, but otherwise, I think this is quite a gd development.

Reporter
18-11-08, 23:10
So .... TOP soon?

moonk123
25-11-08, 09:05
Project Name-CARABELLE
Developer-Sim Lian (West Coast) Pte Ltd(Sim Lian Group Limited)
Property Type-Condominium
Tenure - 956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
Total Units - 338
Completion Date - Est 28 Mar 2011
District - 5

http://www.virtualhomes.sg/FileUpload/Project/42/Images/floor_typeA2.jpg

http://www.virtualhomes.sg/FileUpload/Project/42/Images/floor_typeB4.jpg

http://www.virtualhomes.sg/FileUpload/Project/42/Images/elevation.jpg

see the construction progress and the surrounding through 720 degree virtual tour from:

http://www.virtualhomes.sg/carabelle

:)

sgconjl
28-11-08, 22:51
We are also interested in carabelle, Could anyone give the currently sale price?

home-run
28-11-08, 23:38
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well, if u are keen can let me knw ur requirements via email/sms/call for enquiry. I have a few units tt i'm currently mktg...priced to sell. Also hav the original brochure in hand too =)

Email: [email protected]:cheers6:
Contact : 81835132

ST88
30-11-08, 15:59
There should be some fire sale going on now and i think it is a good time to buy. I do not own any here so no hidden agenda.

Everyone thinks the property market will crash in 2009. If you ask me, it has crashed already so grab the good deals. Before you know it, the stock markets will be rallying again. Analyst will say,"The markets dropped too much...Obama will come up with new policies...Subprime is all priced in...economy has hit rock bottom...".

Then it will be too late to get the good deals as owners will suddenly raise the selling prices again. So grab it now when there is panic in the streets. Isnt that what Warren Bufett said.

ryanyuen
05-12-08, 15:32
Hi everyone,

My wife and I just completed the transaction of a sub-sale unit in Carabelle. Bought a penthouse facing the pool at $830psf. Currently living at an EC in the north and looking forward to moving over to the west. Its going to be our dream house. Looking forward to the completion of the property next year, and meeting you all as neighbours.

stalingrad
05-12-08, 15:48
Hi everyone,

My wife and I just completed the transaction of a sub-sale unit in Carabelle. Bought a penthouse facing the pool at $830psf. Currently living at an EC in the north and looking forward to moving over to the west. Its going to be our dream house. Looking forward to the completion of the property next year, and meeting you all as neighbours.

Are you sure you paid $830 psf? penhouses usually sell for lower prices as they contain a lot of useless space. If it is true, then certainly it is good news for your neighbors.

Real Estate Pundit
05-12-08, 22:16
Hi everyone,

My wife and I just completed the transaction of a sub-sale unit in Carabelle. Bought a penthouse facing the pool at $830psf. Currently living at an EC in the north and looking forward to moving over to the west. Its going to be our dream house. Looking forward to the completion of the property next year, and meeting you all as neighbours.

I hope you are only a liar! Why? There is no caveat lodged for Carabelle for anything above $755psf since Nov 2007. And $755 was paid for 883sqft for #04-02 in July 2008.

And if you are not an liar, then you are a poor idiot that paid too much when prices should be alot lower.

So which are you?

R99C
06-12-08, 14:42
i think no caveat will be lodged if u are not taking up bank loan.

Real Estate Pundit
07-12-08, 09:43
i think no caveat will be lodged if u are not taking up bank loan.

Good one R99C! Your subtlety in calling ryanyuen a poor idiot instead of a liar is perfect :spliff:

Reporter
08-12-08, 11:02
I hope you are only a liar! Why? There is no caveat lodged for Carabelle for anything above $755psf since Nov 2007. And $755 was paid for 883sqft for #04-02 in July 2008.

And if you are not an liar, then you are a poor idiot that paid too much when prices should be alot lower.

So which are you?
Why are you behaving like an idiot here?

He bought a penthouse here and is looking to link up with future neighbours. Did that offend you?

His paying of $755psf has nothing to do with you and had in no way affected you.

I have the experience of no caveat lodged for buying a property with cash too.

Why call youself a Property Pundit when you are just a useless idiot?

darrenp
08-12-08, 11:16
Why are you behaving like an idiot here?

He bought a penthouse here and is looking to link up with future neighbours. Did that offend you?

His paying of $755psf has nothing to do with you and had in no way affected you.

I have the experience of no caveat lodged for buying a property with cash too.

Why call youself a Property Pundit when you are just a useless idiot?

is carabelle sub sales below 700psf now?plse advise

$2COE
08-12-08, 15:48
when is e expected TOP?

Real Estate Pundit
08-12-08, 15:59
Latest sub sale caveats for Carabelle

Unit____SQFT____PSF,$____Total_______Date
09-23___1399____726____$1,015,000___06Oct08
09-18___1130____735____$830,000____02Oct08
10-17___1238____715____$885,000____29Sep08
08-02___883_____723____$638,000____22Aug08
10-04___1292____712____$920,000____12Aug08
06-10___1302____705____$918,000____22Jul08
03-28___947_____748____$708,000____22Jul08
04-02___883_____755____$666,666____09Jul08
04-18___1130____698____$789,000____04Jun08
10-21___1389____684____$950,000____04Jun08
03-21___1389____792____$1,100,000___16Apr08
12-27___2077____797____$1,655,000___24Mar08
08-22___947_____785____$744,000____05Feb08
12-28___1819____840____$1,527,960___21Jan08
01-17___1496____681____$1,020,000___10Jan08

Real Estate Pundit
08-12-08, 16:02
Why are you behaving like an idiot here?

He bought a penthouse here and is looking to link up with future neighbours. Did that offend you?

His paying of $755psf has nothing to do with you and had in no way affected you.

I have the experience of no caveat lodged for buying a property with cash too.

Why call youself a Property Pundit when you are just a useless idiot?

I can give exact caveat details and thus i can smoke out liars and those who try to talk up or down the market. I can give more facts than most people can chew on.

What can you do?

Real Estate Pundit
08-12-08, 16:04
I hope you are only a liar! Why? There is no caveat lodged for Carabelle for anything above $755psf since Nov 2007. And $755 was paid for 883sqft for #04-02 in July 2008.

And if you are not an liar, then you are a poor idiot that paid too much when prices should be alot lower.

So which are you?

I need to make a correction to the above. In Jan 2008, there is a transaction at $840psf for #12-28 that I missed out. Apologies.

toaler
08-12-08, 18:32
I can give exact caveat details and thus i can smoke out liars and those who try to talk up or down the market. I can give more facts than most people can chew on.

What can you do?

thanks for the caveat details! u rock! :)

Reporter
09-12-08, 00:49
I need to make a correction to the above. In Jan 2008, there is a transaction at $840psf for #12-28 that I missed out. Apologies.
My point is why "jump" at him when he (1) did not even offend you, and (2) did not talk up or down the market?

If you did not "jump" at him, there is no need to apologise.

By the way, I subscribe to the same set of caveat information that you have.

Farnie
09-12-08, 12:13
Why are you behaving like an idiot here?

He bought a penthouse here and is looking to link up with future neighbours. Did that offend you?

His paying of $755psf has nothing to do with you and had in no way affected you.

I have the experience of no caveat lodged for buying a property with cash too.

Why call youself a Property Pundit when you are just a useless idiot?

I wonder who is the idiot here? That person didnt say $755 psf but said he paid $830psf and REP was posting the lodged caveats which doesn't show any $830 psf, nor any transactions near $830 psf, whether caveats lodged or not.

Well, REP was quite subtle in suggesting that ryanyuen was actually posting rubbish because why would anybody pay so much more than the `market' rate unless he is indeed unaware of the market rates or he is either an agent marketing a Penthouse there or an owner trying to sell one. No apologises from me for being direct.

Incidentally there were indeed a few owners trying to sell Penthouses there and the quoted asking price to me were around $800 psf.

So ryanyuen could be trying to give people the impression that there is a `support' level of $830 psf for Penthouse in Carabelle. So when he tries to sell at $800 psf to potential buyers, he will say, look, this is a discount from another unit that were `sold' for $830 psf.

C'mon Reporter, get a grip of yourself. Are you getting nervous that property prics, not only is it not rising, it is in fact declining? Wake from from your dream, sorry, I mean nightmare, its no longer a nightmare, its REAL. If you can hold your properties, just hold on. If not, unless you are willing to sell at close to 2005-early 2006 px, then be prepared to face the consequences like a man. All your bullish talk and `lecture' of REP will not move prices up an inch.

Carabelle is one project which I believe has a lot of speculators as it was sold out in relatively quick time. Besides, there is also huge supply there with 4 condos near to each other. And when the Parc TOP, which is another highly speculated project, I'm certain prices in this part of west coast is bound to drop.

Incidentally I viewed a unit at The Stellar over the weekend. Units there are asking $800 psf too, just for info if anybody is interested.

PS: I actually can appreciate why REP gave himself such a nick :spliff2:

ST88
09-12-08, 12:28
It is actually amazing to see the price difference in the same neighbourhood. From $600psf for Infinity to $650psf at Varsity Park to $800 for The Stellar to $1000psf for Balmeg.

code01
09-12-08, 14:52
hi all, FYI a pool view 1259sqft unit stack 16 just done at 680psf :) There was indeed a penthse stack 17 sold at 830psf in sept

code01
09-12-08, 14:56
hi all, FYI a pool view 1259sqft unit #0x-16 just done at 680psf couple of days back :)
There was indeed a penthse stack 17 sold at 830psf in sept

Infiniti 3+1 1346sqft #1x-16 just sold at ard 600psf(sold by others)

ryanyuen
12-12-08, 04:23
Thanks Code01.

Its really interesting how an innocent posting like mine drew so much flak. I paid the price of the unit I paid because we both loved the property and for other reasions like it being near to our aging parents' house, etc etc. So what if I paid more than the current market price - i bought the unit to stay for the long term and not to invest or speculate. It was never my intention to lie and I never did, so I can only read on with amusement and decided only to reply when I saw the posting by Code01.

Perhaps I thought wrongly about this forum and it isnt exactly what it should be - a place for residents of properties to share info and get to know one another. I'll no longer post another thread here, and leave the so-called experts to carry on their wise counsel.

Best regards to all resident of Carabelle, and hope to see you all soon next year when the property TOPs.

code01
12-12-08, 10:41
Hi ryanyuen bobian you too rich liao :scared-1: never lodge caveat thats why they dun believe haha. anyway cheers to ur new home. :)

stalingrad
12-12-08, 11:00
Thanks Code01.

Its really interesting how an innocent posting like mine drew so much flak. I paid the price of the unit I paid because we both loved the property and for other reasions like it being near to our aging parents' house, etc etc. So what if I paid more than the current market price - i bought the unit to stay for the long term and not to invest or speculate. It was never my intention to lie and I never did, so I can only read on with amusement and decided only to reply when I saw the posting by Code01.

Perhaps I thought wrongly about this forum and it isnt exactly what it should be - a place for residents of properties to share info and get to know one another. I'll no longer post another thread here, and leave the so-called experts to carry on their wise counsel.

Best regards to all resident of Carabelle, and hope to see you all soon next year when the property TOPs.

Yes, we welcome you to our new home in the future. it is nice to have someone who have class and social grace. Let the naysayers say whatever pleases them. Carabelle is a nice place to live and raise a family, especially if you have a lot of space as would be the case if you live in a penhouse.

Have you noticed that Carabelle is now selling at the same prices as Botannia, while at the launch time Carabelle was selling more than 100 psf less than Botannia.

R99C
13-12-08, 01:26
Hi ryanyuen,

My Gf and I are a young couple who bought a unit in Carabelle as our 1st home during the peak of the market when all our relatives discouraged. And the elders were right indeed, that prices dropped later on.

Even then, we are not bothered by it as we also got the unit for our own stay and we are really looking forward to moving in to this lovely place.

Can see that the project is making good progress. Most of the window frames are mounted and the basement carpark is now fully covered up.
Window panes for some units are already fitted on.

Lets hope that TOP can be on time or earlier and we can all move into our dream homes very soon.

I believe most of our neigbours are nice and friendly, family people. Don't be turned away by negative posts and rude comments made by speculators. I am sure useful info can still be shared among owners through this forum.


cheers


Thanks Code01.

Its really interesting how an innocent posting like mine drew so much flak. I paid the price of the unit I paid because we both loved the property and for other reasions like it being near to our aging parents' house, etc etc. So what if I paid more than the current market price - i bought the unit to stay for the long term and not to invest or speculate. It was never my intention to lie and I never did, so I can only read on with amusement and decided only to reply when I saw the posting by Code01.

Perhaps I thought wrongly about this forum and it isnt exactly what it should be - a place for residents of properties to share info and get to know one another. I'll no longer post another thread here, and leave the so-called experts to carry on their wise counsel.

Best regards to all resident of Carabelle, and hope to see you all soon next year when the property TOPs.

Teana
13-12-08, 14:39
I wonder who is the idiot here? That person didnt say $755 psf but said he paid $830psf and REP was posting the lodged caveats which doesn't show any $830 psf, nor any transactions near $830 psf, whether caveats lodged or not.

Well, REP was quite subtle in suggesting that ryanyuen was actually posting rubbish because why would anybody pay so much more than the `market' rate unless he is indeed unaware of the market rates or he is either an agent marketing a Penthouse there or an owner trying to sell one. No apologises from me for being direct.

Incidentally there were indeed a few owners trying to sell Penthouses there and the quoted asking price to me were around $800 psf.

So ryanyuen could be trying to give people the impression that there is a `support' level of $830 psf for Penthouse in Carabelle. So when he tries to sell at $800 psf to potential buyers, he will say, look, this is a discount from another unit that were `sold' for $830 psf.

C'mon Reporter, get a grip of yourself. Are you getting nervous that property prics, not only is it not rising, it is in fact declining? Wake from from your dream, sorry, I mean nightmare, its no longer a nightmare, its REAL. If you can hold your properties, just hold on. If not, unless you are willing to sell at close to 2005-early 2006 px, then be prepared to face the consequences like a man. All your bullish talk and `lecture' of REP will not move prices up an inch.

Carabelle is one project which I believe has a lot of speculators as it was sold out in relatively quick time. Besides, there is also huge supply there with 4 condos near to each other. And when the Parc TOP, which is another highly speculated project, I'm certain prices in this part of west coast is bound to drop.

Incidentally I viewed a unit at The Stellar over the weekend. Units there are asking $800 psf too, just for info if anybody is interested.

PS: I actually can appreciate why REP gave himself such a nick :spliff2:
Farnie, don't making a fool of yourself here.
Stop your assumption and factless statements everywhere.
Reporter is tell Property Estate Pundit off for reacting too fast.
I don't see him/her reacting to anything related to market or price movement.
Anyway, Property Estate Pundit has already apologised for reacting too fast.


Thanks Code01.

Its really interesting how an innocent posting like mine drew so much flak. I paid the price of the unit I paid because we both loved the property and for other reasions like it being near to our aging parents' house, etc etc. So what if I paid more than the current market price - i bought the unit to stay for the long term and not to invest or speculate. It was never my intention to lie and I never did, so I can only read on with amusement and decided only to reply when I saw the posting by Code01.

Perhaps I thought wrongly about this forum and it isnt exactly what it should be - a place for residents of properties to share info and get to know one another. I'll no longer post another thread here, and leave the so-called experts to carry on their wise counsel.

Best regards to all resident of Carabelle, and hope to see you all soon next year when the property TOPs.

Reporter
13-12-08, 14:51
I wonder who is the idiot here? That person didnt say $755 psf but said he paid $830psf and REP was posting the lodged caveats which doesn't show any $830 psf, nor any transactions near $830 psf, whether caveats lodged or not.

Well, REP was quite subtle in suggesting that ryanyuen was actually posting rubbish because why would anybody pay so much more than the `market' rate unless he is indeed unaware of the market rates or he is either an agent marketing a Penthouse there or an owner trying to sell one. No apologises from me for being direct.

Incidentally there were indeed a few owners trying to sell Penthouses there and the quoted asking price to me were around $800 psf.

So ryanyuen could be trying to give people the impression that there is a `support' level of $830 psf for Penthouse in Carabelle. So when he tries to sell at $800 psf to potential buyers, he will say, look, this is a discount from another unit that were `sold' for $830 psf.

C'mon Reporter, get a grip of yourself. Are you getting nervous that property prics, not only is it not rising, it is in fact declining? Wake from from your dream, sorry, I mean nightmare, its no longer a nightmare, its REAL. If you can hold your properties, just hold on. If not, unless you are willing to sell at close to 2005-early 2006 px, then be prepared to face the consequences like a man. All your bullish talk and `lecture' of REP will not move prices up an inch.

Carabelle is one project which I believe has a lot of speculators as it was sold out in relatively quick time. Besides, there is also huge supply there with 4 condos near to each other. And when the Parc TOP, which is another highly speculated project, I'm certain prices in this part of west coast is bound to drop.

Incidentally I viewed a unit at The Stellar over the weekend. Units there are asking $800 psf too, just for info if anybody is interested.

PS: I actually can appreciate why REP gave himself such a nick :spliff2:
We can see you like to assume this, assume that, ...
Don't assume, talk fact please!

I tell him off for jumping too fast and then later had to apologise. Otherwise, the 2 of them can say anything they like.

I am not holding anything and am looking to buy some. Told you I sold them in mid 2007 in another thread. Have you forgotten?

By the way, thanks for making Citi drop so that I can buy at $3.50. You are just great! You are one of the few person who claimed to be able to make Singapore property price drop more than it should. Please make it drop, drop, so that I can buy more.

Thanks so much. I am beginning to like you!


I need to make a correction to the above. In Jan 2008, there is a transaction at $840psf for #12-28 that I missed out. Apologies.

Farnie
13-12-08, 15:00
Farnie, don't making a fool of yourself here.
Stop your assumption and factless statements everywhere.
Reporter is tell Property Estate Pundit off for reacting too fast.
I don't see him/her reacting to anything related to market or price movement.
Anyway, Property Estate Pundit has already apologised for reacting too fast.

I thot you're not replying to my posts? Also pressure building up, can't face reality? I'm not sure if who is the bigger fool. The one who jumps in afer only reading just 1 post or one who speaks the truth :)

REP apologies was for missing the $840 psf transaction in Jan 2008, not in relation to ryanyuen's claimed transaction.

Whatever its real or not, only ryanyuen and code01 knows since they claims to be aware of such a transaction. Since the caveat is not lodged, I maintain the price is too high.

Of coz ryanyuen can choose to spend his monies in whichever way he chooses (being near aging parents is a very valid reason) but letz just say there will not be many people out there who would be willing to pay these sort of money for D5 properties.

There are tons of excellent properties out there going for fire-sale prices now, compared to just weeks or months ago. A friend of mine is looking at a unit at Robertson 100 3-bedder. Asking $1k psf and its negotiable :D

Reporter
13-12-08, 15:04
I thot you're not replying to my posts? Also pressure building up, can't face reality? I'm not sure if who is the bigger fool. The one who jumps in afer only reading just 1 post or one who speaks the truth :)

REP apologies was for missing the $840 psf transaction in Jan 2008, not in relation to ryanyuen's claimed transaction.

Whatever its real or not, only ryanyuen and code01 knows since they claims to be aware of such a transaction. Since the caveat is not lodged, I maintain the price is too high.

Of coz ryanyuen can choose to spend his monies in whichever way he chooses (being near aging parents is a very valid reason) but letz just say there will not be many people out there who would be willing to pay these sort of money for D5 properties.

There are tons of excellent properties out there going for fire-sale prices now, compared to just weeks or months ago. A friend of mine is looking at a unit at Robertson 100 3-bedder. Asking $1k psf and its negotiable :D
Ah! You are here.
Hey, thanks!

You are a good tool for making wealth.
What should I buy next?

Farnie
13-12-08, 15:11
We can see you like to assume this, assume that, ...
Don't assume, talk fact please!

I tell him off for jumping too fast and then later had to apologise. Otherwise, the 2 of them can say anything they like.

I am not holding anything and am looking to buy some. Told you I sold them in mid 2007 in another thread. Have you forgotten?

By the way, thanks for making Citi drop so that I can buy at $3.50. You are just great! You are one of the few person who claimed to be able to make Singapore property price drop more than it should. Please make it drop, drop, so that I can buy more.

Thanks so much. I am beginning to like you!

Not bad, you managed to picked up Citi at $3.50. But I hate to tell you this (although I would love to show you proof), I got mine even lower than $3.50.....so in a way i did `help' you get Citi shares, but probably due to my demand at $3.10, drove the price up to $3.50. No, I'm not here to boost, but I just want to show that while some of you guys here are busy trying to talk up the market, there are plenty of other opportunities out there to be made and still have quality time with your loved ones holidaying.

So did you pick up General Growth on Thursday?

code01
13-12-08, 19:14
I thot you're not replying to my posts? Also pressure building up, can't face reality? I'm not sure if who is the bigger fool. The one who jumps in afer only reading just 1 post or one who speaks the truth :)

REP apologies was for missing the $840 psf transaction in Jan 2008, not in relation to ryanyuen's claimed transaction.

Whatever its real or not, only ryanyuen and code01 knows since they claims to be aware of such a transaction. Since the caveat is not lodged, I maintain the price is too high.

Of coz ryanyuen can choose to spend his monies in whichever way he chooses (being near aging parents is a very valid reason) but letz just say there will not be many people out there who would be willing to pay these sort of money for D5 properties.

There are tons of excellent properties out there going for fire-sale prices now, compared to just weeks or months ago. A friend of mine is looking at a unit at Robertson 100 3-bedder. Asking $1k psf and its negotiable :D

I think i know which Robertson 100 unit u talking abt. #0x-19 right?! The layout is good. Good price right :)

PropertiesHunter
14-12-08, 17:21
For people looking for properties if
sibor rate go below 0.6% for 3 mths or more, bank maybe charging very close to 1% is a very good time to buy any properties. I experience buying one in asian & SAR crisis at 2004. Bank interest 1.25% selling FH units at D5 cause only 420psf. les s than 8 yrs old project.

So wait 2nd half 2009 for it we are very close to bottom or bottom bottom

DW
15-12-08, 23:49
Dear all,

I am hoping to ask for some guidance from the property enthusiasts and professional this esteemed industry on the nature and nomenclature used in connection with the
(i) caveats lodged with URA, and
(ii) caveats lodged as published by Business Times.

Many a times, I observed there is a specific reference to "Contract Date" in which the specific caveat is lodged in both the URA site and Business Times publication. I will be grateful if appropriate advice could be provided or elaborated on the nature and definition of the "Contract Date" referenced as follows - Is the Contract Date defined therein the

1. Date on which the Option to Purchase was signed (and dated), or
2. Date on which the purchase agreement was signed, or
3. Date on which the legal counsel completes all necessary due diligence as necessary to satisfy to him/herself on the necessary legal works, or
4. None of the above, in which case, grateful if you can elaborate more.

Perhaps I share a little more on my query. Of late, I noticed there a number of caveats lodged for certain properties, in what appears to my personal opinion unusually low prices, with very recent Contract Dates. This interest me but I do appreciate the reliability of these information would only be as good as the source or accuracy/correctness in the interpretation
on the same. I have attached a recent extract of the Business Times caveats lodged listing from a recent publication (See attached). For easy reference, some caveats' pricing as follows:-

The Sail = 802psf
Icon = 702psf
Parc Infinia Wee Nam = sub 1000psf now.
Belvedere = 1000psf

Costa Del Sol = 769psf

Look forward to hearing from the community. Thanks.

PS: I recognised this may not be the most appropriate thread to post this specific enquiry. I apologise if this query appears to be rather out of place or if I had caused or shall have caused any discomfort to any forummers herein.

stalingrad
22-12-08, 10:36
Passed by Carabelle and drove around the neighborhood for a while just to take a look. Several things I like to share:

(1) Carabelle is coming up fast. Several blocks are near completion. TOP in June 2009 is real possibility, although I must caution you that is just a guess.

(2) the blocks are painted pastel orange or beige, while the show flat model was painted blue. But I like pastel beige. It is really gorgeous. It matches the colors of the infiniti. perhaps the developers coordinated their decision making, so that the two condos are color coordinated. Botannia is still blue, and thus is sticking up like a sore thump.

(3) The front balcony has a glass or plastic panel wrap around, but the back balcony has the usual stainless steel railings. Both look real nice.

(4) The bay windows are built with high end materials. look drop dead gorgeous.

(5) From a distance, Carabelle looks much better than varsity park and the stellar, varsity park in particular, which looks to be entirely build with cheap materials.

(6) the infiniti, botannia and carabelle are in close proximity. the launch price was the highest for botannia, more than 700 psf, followed by the infiniti, at about 650psf. Carabelle was sold at the lowest price of all, around 600 psf. But it turns out this project looks the nicest in appearance. It is really ironic. congrats on all those carabelle owners. You made the right bet. Go take a look and you will agree with me.

(7) Botannia was sold with the great hype. But it turns out this project looks the uglinest. While looks are not the only parameters, the owners of botannia are probably going to be disappointed.

david8387
31-12-08, 14:10
Hi All, Happy New Year!!!

I am lookin for a private property choosing btw Carabelle, Infiniti & Botannia...haven't really decide which is a better choice (worth investing and also own stay)... really hoping to receive some good pointers from u pple. Thx.

:)

ST88
02-01-09, 18:00
They are all different in their uniqueness. Bottania is probably the most expensive. Take a look at Monterey Park too. Very well kept after 3 years and easy to get tenants. Infinity should be a hive of activity very soon and the units facing Bottania will be easily rented out

highroller
03-01-09, 17:13
Hello everyone. I bought my #03-xx 3 bedroom unit in Oct last year nearing the end of the price boom and start of the financial crisis for 770psf. Guess I should have waited longer before buying. But anyway... looking forward to TOP soon so I can move in :)

$2COE
03-01-09, 18:46
Hi, how big is a 2 bdr (sq ft) and any idea of the prices transacting for subsale now?

code01
04-01-09, 22:30
Hi, how big is a 2 bdr (sq ft) and any idea of the prices transacting for subsale now?

2 bedrm 883sqft 680k 2+1 947sqft ard 750k

jlbc
09-01-09, 21:42
anyone knows what is the colour of this project? been to the showroom,and seems like offish white but recently by past it and it seems to be biege...

R99C
10-01-09, 14:05
Here's an update - photo taken this morning.
Doubt TOP can be brought forward earlier than Oct 2009.


http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x194/Rocky99R/Photo168b.jpg

polkadots
12-01-09, 13:13
thank you, r99c. nice pic. i am really looking forward to staying in carabelle but alas, i am to be posted overseas for a few years........still wondering if i should leave it empty of rent it out. feel a bit sayang to rent it out and risk having it destroyed but tenants from hell if i am unlucky....



Here's an update - photo taken this morning.
Doubt TOP can be brought forward earlier than Oct 2009.


http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x194/Rocky99R/Photo168b.jpg

$2COE
12-01-09, 20:34
anyone knows if there will be a shuttle bus service and how much is the maintenance fees going for 2 bdr?

gfoo
12-01-09, 23:26
pfwah look at that nice, big big grounds. maybe i should shortlist carabelle too. Sweet!

stalingrad
15-01-09, 15:34
anyone knows if there will be a shuttle bus service and how much is the maintenance fees going for 2 bdr?

Yes, we bought a unit when it was launched. The agent said there would be a shuttle bus service to Clementi MRT.

2bdr costs about $600,000 in today's market, a lot more just a year ago. Lucky we bought to stay, not to flip. Heard a friend's net worth went down from 2 million to less than zero now, as a result of him being overextended in the property market. We bought only one unit and we paid cash. We don't even plan to apply for a loan. If all Singaporeans are like us, there would be no bubbles. Bubbles are created by those that borrow money to buy condos to flip. Now they are trapped with no escape hatch.

$2COE
15-01-09, 16:30
HI,

any insights about the maintenance for a 2 bdr?

highroller
15-01-09, 18:43
Yes, we bought a unit when it was launched. The agent said there would be a shuttle bus service to Clementi MRT.

2bdr costs about $600,000 in today's market, a lot more just a year ago. Lucky we bought to stay, not to flip. Heard a friend's net worth went down from 2 million to less than zero now, as a result of him being overextended in the property market. We bought only one unit and we paid cash. We don't even plan to apply for a loan. If all Singaporeans are like us, there would be no bubbles. Bubbles are created by those that borrow money to buy condos to flip. Now they are trapped with no escape hatch.

Jialat are the ones that buy 2 or 3 properties to flip and cannot sell. I remember calling in for a unit at Domain 21 and the owner said she got low, mid, and high floor for sale and that was just at the start of the recession. I was thinking to myself "this lady is in deeeeep shit man..."

highroller
15-01-09, 18:45
Is there anyway we can ask sim lian to paint the condo white, as shown in the catalog? This beige color looks like blech... Look at Vis Holland... white and nice. Would be good if they can paint it white. :mad:

jlbc
15-01-09, 21:23
I agree I was hoping that it would be white...:)

stalingrad
16-01-09, 10:05
Is there anyway we can ask sim lian to paint the condo white, as shown in the catalog? This beige color looks like blech... Look at Vis Holland... white and nice. Would be good if they can paint it white. :mad:

I like it beige. When I first saw the new color, I even asked my wife to go and take a look. I thought it was beautiful. If you guys compare the three condos in the vicinity, carabelle looks the best, followed by the infinit. Botannia looks the worst. Lucky we did not buy botannia. We were in the showflat, and escaped right away after being quoted 700 plus per square foot. On our way home, we stumbled upon Carabelle, and it was selling for less than 600 psf. Now carabelle and botannia are being sold at about the same price, about 700 psf. the real market value for both, in my view, is about 500 psf. that is the price you can sell these condos at in this economy. thus, we have lost money just like botannia owners, but we have lost less than they have.

$2COE
17-01-09, 20:46
any owners here have any idea about the shuttle bus service and the maintenance fee?

$2COE
24-01-09, 09:21
hey..anyone can give an estimate when the TOP would be?

polkadots
24-01-09, 16:11
Yah agree also. I thought it looks white in the brochure.....I think it'll look nicer in white......

just a remark, i think infiniti's colour scheme looks really good....very tastefully done.


I agree I was hoping that it would be white...:)

code01
31-01-09, 11:51
hey..anyone can give an estimate when the TOP would be?

most recent update from developer is ard june/july 09 :)

polkadots
31-01-09, 12:36
Cool! That's very good news indeed!


most recent update from developer is ard june/july 09 :)

jlbc
02-02-09, 21:39
most recent update from developer is ard june/july 09 :)

how do you get the news from? thru email? I had emailed the developer about the colour of the developement but there is no reply...

code01
03-02-09, 17:27
how do you get the news from? thru email? I had emailed the developer about the colour of the developement but there is no reply...

call them lor :) email no use at all they never reply. I understand #0x-06 1292sqft just sold at 620psf.... :)

$2COE
03-02-09, 21:26
Hey..you know what's the maintenance like for a 2 bedder?

schoz
03-02-09, 22:32
call them lor :) email no use at all they never reply. I understand #0x-06 1292sqft just sold at 620psf.... :)

looking for a unit at either carabelle or infiniti...any nice deal?

stalingrad
04-02-09, 08:53
call them lor :) email no use at all they never reply. I understand #0x-06 1292sqft just sold at 620psf.... :)

Not true, they have always replied to our questions on the spot or call us back. The are very friendly people.

They told us that TOP would be some time around July. they also said we have options to install different equipment than they had planned for our units.

$2COE
04-02-09, 16:13
Not true, they have always replied to our questions on the spot or call us back. The are very friendly people.

They told us that TOP would be some time around July. they also said we have options to install different equipment than they had planned for our units.

Hey..what are the options that you are referring to? Able to share some examples?

code01
04-02-09, 16:21
looking for a unit at either carabelle or infiniti...any nice deal?

2 bedrm or 3 bedrm? There is one infiniti unit... 3rm 1302sqft at 595psf... aye facing....

coburn
05-02-09, 08:53
2 bedrm or 3 bedrm? There is one infiniti unit... 3rm 1302sqft at 595psf... aye facing....

Hi Code01

Are you marketing this? Or do you know where I can get the details?
Thinking of viewing this unit.

Thanks

JohnTan
06-02-09, 14:45
Hi Code01

Are you marketing this? Or do you know where I can get the details?
Thinking of viewing this unit.

Thanks

tomorrow papers will have many infintti units for sale. Just call and make arrangements. All can try at this price except the smaller 2 bed room units.

proud owner
06-02-09, 14:55
tomorrow papers will have many infintti units for sale. Just call and make arrangements. All can try at this price except the smaller 2 bed room units.

should you go viewing, take note of little details ...

i find new condos have tiny space for laundry ..

as they seldom or dont provide clothe hanging facilities anymore, owners nowadays use dryer ... make sure the laundry space big enough for washer and dryer ..even if you stack them up .. the height , etc
take note

coburn
06-02-09, 15:27
tomorrow papers will have many infintti units for sale. Just call and make arrangements. All can try at this price except the smaller 2 bed room units.

will do thanks
know of a few units from property guru but was not able to arrange suitable time for viewing..

proud owner
06-02-09, 15:29
will do thanks
know of a few units from property guru but was not able to arrange suitable time for viewing..

The Stellar ? you dont like ?
if not in a hurry ..i feel the Parc is not bad ...

coburn
06-02-09, 16:15
The Stellar ? you dont like ?
if not in a hurry ..i feel the Parc is not bad ...

I went thru the Stellar thread..
seems there are some concerns about noise and air pollution.
anyway i think the best is still to go and judge for oneself
afterall, everyone's preference is different.
I am trying to arrange for a viewing at Infiniti, after that will pop by the different developments to see see

I am in no hurry to get a unit..
just thinking of getting a 3R for own stay.
my current 2BR is still fine if I cannot find anything i like..

Kon2
06-02-09, 23:02
The Stellar ? you dont like ?
if not in a hurry ..i feel the Parc is not bad ...

What do think about Carabelle, Botannia, Infiniti and the Parc? Which is better? I am thinking of getting a 3 br unit for own stay.

proud owner
07-02-09, 11:25
What do think about Carabelle, Botannia, Infiniti and the Parc? Which is better? I am thinking of getting a 3 br unit for own stay.

i feel Parc is better ... cos have easy access to clementi mrt

if you drive then i feel stellar is good .. the others are a little far ... even if you dont drive , stellar is more accessible the carabelle, botannia and infiniti

in time to come, driving will be even more expensive .. so i feel parc will have its upside

this is personal opinion

code01
07-02-09, 11:51
What do think about Carabelle, Botannia, Infiniti and the Parc? Which is better? I am thinking of getting a 3 br unit for own stay.

Personally I will get Carabelle. Its exit is more convenient as well. Botannia is still too ex now. Infiniti too noisy for AYE facing. The Parc will depends on price. At ard 850/900+psf u can have alot of options to buy elsewhere. Somewhere in River Valley or bukit timah area. thats my opinion :)

JohnTan
10-02-09, 11:05
will do thanks
know of a few units from property guru but was not able to arrange suitable time for viewing..

Hi, how did your viewing go, any comments, let me know what you think of the units you have seen, most probabily the same ones that I have visited. Good to compare notes in case miss out some impt aspect of the units viewed.

novel
12-02-09, 10:22
hi, interested to view Infiniti too if price is low :P pls email me at [email protected]

code01
12-02-09, 14:24
hi, interested to view Infiniti too if price is low :P pls email me at [email protected]

What is a low price to you? 500? Some say 600.. Infiniti is running out of stock.. Most of the serious seller has sold their unit :)

coburn
12-02-09, 14:33
Hi, how did your viewing go, any comments, let me know what you think of the units you have seen, most probabily the same ones that I have visited. Good to compare notes in case miss out some impt aspect of the units viewed.

Hi John

We did not get to view the units.

Although unable to arrange a suitable time to view, we still drove down last friday evening to view the development and the surroundings.

We do not like the area so will not be considering anymore.
Primary reason is the traffic. Pretty heavy and I have confirmed with a friend who takes AYE everyday that heavy traffic is the norm.
Missus is also not comfortable with the number of heavy vehicles around.
She finds it too industrial.

So can't help you in this.

cher
12-02-09, 14:43
Personally I will get Carabelle. Its exit is more convenient as well. Botannia is still too ex now. Infiniti too noisy for AYE facing. The Parc will depends on price. At ard 850/900+psf u can have alot of options to buy elsewhere. Somewhere in River Valley or bukit timah area. thats my opinion :)


Are you sure you can get River Valley or bukit timah area for 850/900+psf ?? Is that in your dream or you have facts?

code01
12-02-09, 19:47
Are you sure you can get River Valley or bukit timah area for 850/900+psf ?? Is that in your dream or you have facts?

Yup I'm not dreaming. Villa Azura was transacted at 675psf. For River Valley, the older projects like Valley Park for example. Yong An transacted at 1025psf.

JohnTan
13-02-09, 12:20
Yup I'm not dreaming. Villa Azura was transacted at 675psf. For River Valley, the older projects like Valley Park for example. Yong An transacted at 1025psf.

Aiyah why you broadcast to everyone :doh: . hint hint can already what, those who study hard will spot the gems, does who dun do homework will pay the price. Why u dun quote the transacted 900psf ones???? Obviously you are not looking in this area.

Now you just gave away the answer to the exams.... sigh

novel
16-02-09, 09:33
What is a low price to you? 500? Some say 600.. Infiniti is running out of stock.. Most of the serious seller has sold their unit :)

Hi, yes prefer below 600psf....looking for own stay.

3Bedroom + 1 study room if possible. I am a serious buyer too.

proud owner
16-02-09, 09:57
Hi, yes prefer below 600psf....looking for own stay.

3Bedroom + 1 study room if possible. I am a serious buyer too.

if you are buying for own stay .. i would advise :

zero in a district
go for FH
view as many as possible in each project ...
get feel of the different layout, facing (wind direct, sun, pool etc etc )

finally both you and wifey ( or hubby , i am sure some here with male names are actually women heheh) MUST feel good when in the unit ...

Property_Owner
16-02-09, 11:35
if you are buying for own stay .. i would advise :

zero in a district
go for FH
view as many as possible in each project ...
get feel of the different layout, facing (wind direct, sun, pool etc etc )

finally both you and wifey ( or hubby , i am sure some here with male names are actually women heheh) MUST feel good when in the unit ...

I agree!:)

$2COE
16-02-09, 22:14
Hi,

Was looking at page 1 of the thread..is the main pool elevated??

code01
17-02-09, 10:51
Hi, yes prefer below 600psf....looking for own stay.

3Bedroom + 1 study room if possible. I am a serious buyer too.

Nothing at this price at this point in time

david8387
18-02-09, 14:21
Hi, am looking for own stay but seem like the price is still very high at tis point $680-740 psf.

you guys tink price will drop further...maybe slightly below $600psf?:)
for a 3 or 3+1 BR

:cheers6:

code01
18-02-09, 15:47
Hi, am looking for own stay but seem like the price is still very high at tis point $680-740 psf.

you guys tink price will drop further...maybe slightly below $600psf?:)
for a 3 or 3+1 BR

:cheers6:

erm... u wait n see lor :)

noblebaby
19-02-09, 21:08
For carabelle, those unit facing landed houses got west sun? any one know about this.?

noblebaby
20-02-09, 08:29
For carabelle, those unit facing landed houses got west sun? any one know about this.?

Black Label
20-02-09, 22:39
Aiyah why you broadcast to everyone :doh: . hint hint can already what, those who study hard will spot the gems, does who dun do homework will pay the price. Why u dun quote the transacted 900psf ones???? Obviously you are not looking in this area.

Now you just gave away the answer to the exams.... sigh

Wat's wrong with broadcasting here? Else what you think this forum for?

thestudio
21-02-09, 05:30
hi all, i am looking for a place for own stay. either a 2 BR or a 2+1 BR.

do pm me if you have contacts for property agents or if you are a seller yourself ok?

Thanks!

jlbc
21-02-09, 21:35
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x194/Rocky99R/Photo168b.jpg[/QUOTE]

while looking at this pic, realised that there is an road island across the road, does anyone know that whether that will there be a right turn avaliable for those driving in from the AYE?

$2COE
22-02-09, 13:05
I think the main entrance is at the T-junction, which means that the raised divider currently ends before the entrance.

noblebaby
22-02-09, 17:38
Just took this evening, using my ifone. is that the final color? no so nice la.

noblebaby
22-02-09, 17:50
went to look see look see at the Infiniti today...

The infiniti still selling at >$690 psft for unit facing AYE... Carabelle at >$740 psft... so expensive, sellers you better wait long long... :hell-hath-no-fury:

jsh
22-02-09, 17:56
Just took this evening, using my ifone. is that the final color? no so nice la.


That is definitely the final colour since the scaffolding has been taken down already.They didn't spent more effort & money to do a better job of the paintwork.

noblebaby
22-02-09, 18:11
That is definitely the final colour since the scaffolding has been taken down already.They didn't spent more effort & money to do a better job of the paintwork.

so disapointed to c that. now i think infiniti looks nicer. sien!

stalingrad
23-02-09, 09:02
so disapointed to c that. now i think infiniti looks nicer. sien!

Cheer up, I like it beige. Didn't your mother tell you that white is the worst color there is, since it is so easy to get dirty.

JohnTan
23-02-09, 10:52
Wat's wrong with broadcasting here? Else what you think this forum for?

Nothing wrong at all. Just worry for carebelle and infinitti owners who are trying to sell at 650psf and above.

jlbc
23-02-09, 21:20
I think the main entrance is at the T-junction, which means that the raised divider currently ends before the entrance.

I just went there and I was actually at the T-junction and was looking straight at the base of block 65. Don't really think that the entrance is at the T-junction

$2COE
23-02-09, 22:42
I just went there and I was actually at the T-junction and was looking straight at the base of block 65. Don't really think that the entrance is at the T-junction

Ok, then i foresee lotsa illegal u-turns just to turn in when the project TOPs!:)

jlbc
23-02-09, 22:51
Ok, then i foresee lotsa illegal u-turns just to turn in when the project TOPs!:)

U-turn is ok except that you would have to go a big loop through AYE, then teban garden to get the the ayer rajah food center, which is only up along the T-Junction:)

polkadots
24-02-09, 15:56
aiyo......infiniti does now look more vibrant with their colour choice, i must say, even though I have a unit in carabelle.... :(


That is definitely the final colour since the scaffolding has been taken down already.They didn't spent more effort & money to do a better job of the paintwork.

jlbc
24-02-09, 21:10
aiyo......infiniti does now look more vibrant with their colour choice, i must say, even though I have a unit in carabelle.... :(

Hoping it was white too, but anyway, I dun think should be using scaffolding to do the painting... a gondola should be used instead?

polkadots
25-02-09, 13:08
You mean there's still chance they will repaint it white?! That will be excellent!! while it's not ugly now, it sure looks pretty plain, common and monotonous......

really hope they will do something about it.......


Hoping it was white too, but anyway, I dun think should be using scaffolding to do the painting... a gondola should be used instead?

jlbc
25-02-09, 21:30
You mean there's still chance they will repaint it white?! That will be excellent!! while it's not ugly now, it sure looks pretty plain, common and monotonous......

really hope they will do something about it.......

how about sending a email to Sim Lian? I had tried saying that it was white that I saw at the showflat...but there was no reply :(

x11
04-03-09, 20:33
hi anyone knows what the launch prices psf were?
TOP has been rumoured to be june/july 2009 ... so maybe we'll see prices ease a little soon?

code01
05-03-09, 13:48
hi anyone knows what the launch prices psf were?
TOP has been rumoured to be june/july 2009 ... so maybe we'll see prices ease a little soon?

Ard 630psf - 660psf. Best opportunity will be enter before TOP. Those owners who cant secure loan will throw.

code01
05-03-09, 13:53
went to look see look see at the Infiniti today...

The infiniti still selling at >$690 psft for unit facing AYE... Carabelle at >$740 psft... so expensive, sellers you better wait long long... :hell-hath-no-fury:

Got better price units la. Look harder !!! i pm u liao

code01
05-03-09, 13:56
went to look see look see at the Infiniti today...

The infiniti still selling at >$690 psft for unit facing AYE... Carabelle at >$740 psft... so expensive, sellers you better wait long long... :hell-hath-no-fury:

i have pm u bro

x11
05-03-09, 14:01
Ard 630psf - 660psf. Best opportunity will be enter before TOP. Those owners who cant secure loan will throw.

thanks for the information. will look see look see and hunt.
:cheers4:

fernzy
09-03-09, 10:24
hey guys, i'm new to the forum. my bf and i just started househunting for a unit for our own stay, hoping to grab a good deal in this market now. :) we both work in the west, and west coast seems like 1 of the nicer private home areas. it's quiet and serene.

The Carabelle looks nice, very spacious and i guess the developers will make it look gorgeous in the end (hopefully) - in white or beige.

We are interested in a 2BR or 2+study. May i ask what is the average unit area for 2BR and 2+1 BR at carabelle?

anyone with good deals pls pm me. thanks

x11
09-03-09, 10:36
hey guys, i'm new to the forum. my bf and i just started househunting for a unit for our own stay, hoping to grab a good deal in this market now. :) we both work in the west, and west coast seems like 1 of the nicer private home areas. it's quiet and serene.

The Carabelle looks nice, very spacious and i guess the developers will make it look gorgeous in the end (hopefully) - in white or beige.

We are interested in a 2BR or 2+study. May i ask what is the average unit area for 2BR and 2+1 BR at carabelle?

anyone with good deals pls pm me. thanks
not sure if this might help you ... these are the floor plans for 2BR and 2+1BR



(i'm not an agent, just someone looking for a place to stay too :P)

noblebaby
09-03-09, 11:28
hey guys, i'm new to the forum. my bf and i just started househunting for a unit for our own stay, hoping to grab a good deal in this market now. :) we both work in the west, and west coast seems like 1 of the nicer private home areas. it's quiet and serene.

The Carabelle looks nice, very spacious and i guess the developers will make it look gorgeous in the end (hopefully) - in white or beige.

We are interested in a 2BR or 2+study. May i ask what is the average unit area for 2BR and 2+1 BR at carabelle?

anyone with good deals pls pm me. thanks

2+1 selling at around $780k++ crazy!

x11
09-03-09, 12:17
2+1 selling at around $780k++ crazy!

2+1 is about 947sqft?

780,000 / 947 = $823.65psf

:doh: :eek: :doh:

proud owner
09-03-09, 12:44
2+1 is about 947sqft?

780,000 / 947 = $823.65psf

:doh: :eek: :doh:

might as well buy stellar TOP already think only 700-750 psf max

noblebaby
09-03-09, 12:59
2+1 is about 947sqft?

780,000 / 947 = $823.65psf

:doh: :eek: :doh:

2+1 is more expensive in term of psf... 3brm at carabelle is more than $830k++... im not going to buy.

Botannia is the most expensive. around 700 psf... ends up 850-900k... :scared-5:

x11
09-03-09, 13:42
2+1 is more expensive in term of psf... 3brm at carabelle is more than $830k++... im not going to buy.

Botannia is the most expensive. around 700 psf... ends up 850-900k... :scared-5:

where is the "firesales" ???
where is the "recession" ???

its now a stand-off between sellers and buyers. sellers don't want to reduce their prices and buyers don't want to pay prices that they believe are not at the bottom. hence the hands don't clap.

i think we will see if the sellers are right once the TOP date is announced and is nearing. if sellers have their finanices sorted out, then the buyers will never get to see prices dropping ... BUT if there are a number of speculators that purchased units without the proper financing in place, then maybe they might be forced to reduce prices to let go of units near TOP ...

$2COE
09-03-09, 14:48
http://forums.condosingapore.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=463&stc=1&d=1236581348

Wow..most of the pools are ready with trees planted already..experts> does it look like its close to TOP already?

david8387
09-03-09, 15:20
not sure if this might help you ... these are the floor plans for 2BR and 2+1BR



(i'm not an agent, just someone looking for a place to stay too :P)

Hi X11, i am looking for a unit for own stay. Have been deciding btw the 3 nearby projects (Botannia, Infiniti, Carabelle), cara look more within budget, care to share what good deals you got from your agent.
Can you PM me, thanks. :)

Like you said, still don't see any recession effect as the seller pricing is still very stiff!!:doh:

noblebaby
09-03-09, 15:24
Hi X11, i am looking for a unit for own stay. Have been deciding btw the 3 nearby projects (Botannia, Infiniti, Carabelle), cara look more within budget, care to share what good deals you got from your agent.
Can you PM me, thanks. :)

Like you said, still don't see any recession effect as the seller pricing is still very stiff!!:doh:

what is your budget? i been to these 3 project several times with agents... for 3rm, no >$800k no need to think... all very expensive... maybe you can get the Infinit low floor for about $750k, those unit facing AYE :banghead:

x11
09-03-09, 15:33
Hi X11, i am looking for a unit for own stay. Have been deciding btw the 3 nearby projects (Botannia, Infiniti, Carabelle), cara look more within budget, care to share what good deals you got from your agent.
Can you PM me, thanks. :)

Like you said, still don't see any recession effect as the seller pricing is still very stiff!!:doh:

sigh --- no "good" deals leh. i'm kinda thinking that i should wait till TOP get's announced and see the 1st person to shift in then talk. anyway, based on the information that i have on hand ...

- infiniti facing AYE is about $590/psf
but honestly, this one i completely strike out, cannot tahan the noise and the dust, you can try and see one unit on a saturday afternoon and make your own judement :P

- infiniti non-facing AYE is abt $650/psf
possible to consider, except that got afternoon sun and depending if you are sun lover or not

- carabelle is about $680/psf
i was told that carabelle launch prices were between $630/psf - $660/psf so sellers are still making a small profit or breaking even at $680/psf. definitely no "firesale" no "recession"

argh ... singaporeans are still so rich meh?

code01
09-03-09, 19:40
sigh --- no "good" deals leh. i'm kinda thinking that i should wait till TOP get's announced and see the 1st person to shift in then talk. anyway, based on the information that i have on hand ...

- infiniti facing AYE is about $590/psf
but honestly, this one i completely strike out, cannot tahan the noise and the dust, you can try and see one unit on a saturday afternoon and make your own judement :P

- infiniti non-facing AYE is abt $650/psf
possible to consider, except that got afternoon sun and depending if you are sun lover or not

- carabelle is about $680/psf
i was told that carabelle launch prices were between $630/psf - $660/psf so sellers are still making a small profit or breaking even at $680/psf. definitely no "firesale" no "recession"

argh ... singaporeans are still so rich meh?

i guess you have to wait a while more.. if u see ur friends or colleagues kanna retrenched... then the fire sale should be very forthcoming soon

Btw can u give me the contact for however is selling infiniti at 590psf. Thanks !!!

noblebaby
09-03-09, 20:43
i guess you have to wait a while more.. if u see ur friends or colleagues kanna retrenched... then the fire sale should be very forthcoming soon

Btw can u give me the contact for however is selling infiniti at 590psf. Thanks !!!

better dont try... the unit is vry near to AYE, you can see who is driving inside the car :ashamed1:

Carabelle facing the landed, all west sun, hot like hell...

Only Botannis is N-S facing, but selling at 700psf... not worth to buy.

yes, SG ppl is rich!

code01
09-03-09, 21:34
better dont try... the unit is vry near to AYE, you can see who is driving inside the car :ashamed1:

Carabelle facing the landed, all west sun, hot like hell...

Only Botannis is N-S facing, but selling at 700psf... not worth to buy.

yes, SG ppl is rich!

nvm its okie. i just need the contact for 590psf n 650psf. Pls give me !!!

x11
09-03-09, 21:48
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/project-listings/101/the-infiniti/sale/1?sort=psf&neworder=asc

code01
09-03-09, 21:50
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/project-listings/101/the-infiniti/sale/1?sort=psf&neworder=asc

i called.. bluff one...

x11
09-03-09, 22:06
i called.. bluff one...
hugh? i searched and found that one, quite some time already but i didn't call ... called another agent when he advertised a unit for carabelle on thursday or friday and during our small talk - he also said infiniti facing AYE around $590psf. i didn't follow-up because i no interest. so this agent also bluff? if that's the case, i better avoid this guy - why are agents "talking down" infiniti? so that interested people will call them? i'm confuzed ...


EDIT - ADDON - which also means that we need to weed out the fake from the ads? OMG, isn't this making it even tougher?

stalingrad
10-03-09, 10:08
[quote=noblebaby]Carabelle facing the landed, all west sun, hot like hell...

[quote]

Not entirely true. Many facing the west have botannia as a shield against the sun in the afternoon. Just look at Google Earth. Thanks, botannia. :)

fernzy
12-03-09, 02:18
hey guys, this might be rather belated. but i just noticed the new upcoming mrt line will include a stop at west coast? anyone knows if the station will be near carabelle? haha or when the station is expected to be ready?

with mrt n the condo shuttle to clementi, maybe can really consider carabelle (when prices sweeten!) without getting a car to avoid the peak hour jams...

fernzy
12-03-09, 09:26
hi again!

woah i heard the news that JP Morgan is reporting good news, following right behind Citibank yesterday.. does this mean the market will soon start to pick up gradually?

oh no, so do u all think, after we waited so long and hard for a good priced unit, but in the end sellers might really not cut their prices eventually cuz economy is going to improve soon? sigh!:doh:

ps16
12-03-09, 11:07
hey guys, this might be rather belated. but i just noticed the new upcoming mrt line will include a stop at west coast? anyone knows if the station will be near carabelle? haha or when the station is expected to be ready?

with mrt n the condo shuttle to clementi, maybe can really consider carabelle (when prices sweeten!) without getting a car to avoid the peak hour jams...


Nope....the West Coast station is far from Carabelle. It is somewhere at Pasir Panjang.

x11
12-03-09, 11:11
West Coast MRT is at YESS Centre / Haw Par
http://maps.singaporeexpats.com/showmap.php?name=West%20Coast%20(UC)%20MRT%20Station%20CC25&x=283697231&y=92145424

code01
12-03-09, 11:45
hi anyone knows if there is a gym at carabelle? i saw on site plan fitness stations only and no gym. Anyone can verified?

Juz4max
12-03-09, 14:36
Yes, clubhouse with function room, reading room & gym indicated in the brochure.

david8387
12-03-09, 17:24
hi again!

woah i heard the news that JP Morgan is reporting good news, following right behind Citibank yesterday.. does this mean the market will soon start to pick up gradually?

oh no, so do u all think, after we waited so long and hard for a good priced unit, but in the end sellers might really not cut their prices eventually cuz economy is going to improve soon? sigh!:doh:

Hi Fernzy, you can find more info at below link.;)
http://www.singeo.com.sg/singeo/maps/mrt2020map.html

code01
12-03-09, 17:25
Yes, clubhouse with function room, reading room & gym indicated in the brochure.

Thanks for the info !!!

proud owner
16-03-09, 09:28
where is the "firesales" ???
where is the "recession" ???

its now a stand-off between sellers and buyers. sellers don't want to reduce their prices and buyers don't want to pay prices that they believe are not at the bottom. hence the hands don't clap.

i think we will see if the sellers are right once the TOP date is announced and is nearing. if sellers have their finanices sorted out, then the buyers will never get to see prices dropping ... BUT if there are a number of speculators that purchased units without the proper financing in place, then maybe they might be forced to reduce prices to let go of units near TOP ...

i got a call from an agent from ...
said Stellar(freehold) got one penthouse 4 bedroom ..going cheap, cheaper than 99yrs Varsity Park ... think owner oversea ... no time to manage rental ..so selling ...

think its 2270 sqft

W0520
16-03-09, 10:48
May I know how much it is

david8387
16-03-09, 16:41
Hi, wonder if anybody face similar respond from the seller agent (which they claim to be).

Saw a unit Carabelle listing for $650psf on ST paper, find out which stack and went down to view the unit facing. Decided to make offer next day but when try contacting her to check if still available - there is no repsond at all. :doh:

Strange..:confused: why?

jsh
17-03-09, 07:16
Hi, wonder if anybody face similar respond from the seller agent (which they claim to be).

Saw a unit Carabelle listing for $650psf on ST paper, find out which stack and went down to view the unit facing. Decided to make offer next day but when try contacting her to check if still available - there is no repsond at all. :doh:

Strange..:confused: why?

Lots of tricks being used these days to gauge market demand. A property speculator once told me that its a modus operanti used by them to find out how much interest there is from potential buyers. So if the interest is very strong they would themselves go out & try to secure the property first. They would then try to unload it to genuine buyers for a reasonable gain.

These speculators also have strong connections with property agents & are willing to pay more commissions to them if they can get lower prices for the properties.

Its really a minefield out there for genuine sellers & buyers. Thats why, it's important to know the fair value of the property for both sellers & buyers. Otherwise you could be taken advantage of by crafty people.

proud owner
17-03-09, 12:32
May I know how much it is

i think asking 1.65-1.55 mio

puppet
08-04-09, 10:32
Hi everyone,

My wife and I just completed the transaction of a sub-sale unit in Carabelle. Bought a penthouse facing the pool at $830psf. Currently living at an EC in the north and looking forward to moving over to the west. Its going to be our dream house. Looking forward to the completion of the property next year, and meeting you all as neighbours.

Hi ,
Any idea what is it TOP date?

may i know any side gate to bus stop at West coast high way? I know The Inifiniti has , but not sure If Carabelle has. I like carabell's lay out, and wonder if there's sea view ?
Tks

proud owner
08-04-09, 10:41
Hi ,
Any idea what is it TOP date?

may i know any side gate to bus stop at West coast high way? I know The Inifiniti has , but not sure If Carabelle has. I like carabell's lay out, and wonder if there's sea view ?
Tks

Ryanyuen ?? you paid 830 psf for the penthouse ??

when is that ? since when carabelle 830 psf ?

stalingrad
08-04-09, 11:45
Ryanyuen ?? you paid 830 psf for the penthouse ??

when is that ? since when carabelle 830 psf ?

I think he clinched the deal in early 2008, when the market was still hot. but you know what, carabelle is holding up very well against the neighboring condos. Carabelle was launced at 550-630 psf, and botannia was at 700 plus at launch. But the two condos basically are transacted at the same price.

proud owner
08-04-09, 11:54
I think he clinched the deal in early 2008, when the market was still hot. but you know what, carabelle is holding up very well against the neighboring condos. Carabelle was launced at 550-630 psf, and botannia was at 700 plus at launch. But the two condos basically are transacted at the same price.

so currently they are both around 680-700 psf ?? they are FH


while 99yr Clementiwoods and Varsity Park are about 600-630 and 650-680 psf respectively ...though havent seen much Varsity transactions of late

and FH Stellar is .. 660-680 psf i think ... in other words Stellar is cheapest

puppet
08-04-09, 12:00
Hi all,

I'm looking for 4 rm min FH in this 4 ppty, wants to be short walking distance to bus stop at High way and near amenities.

any advise on this 4 ppty, need to move bu this yr.

Thks

stalingrad
08-04-09, 12:13
so currently they are both around 680-700 psf ?? they are FH


while 99yr Clementiwoods and Varsity Park are about 600-630 and 650-680 psf respectively ...though havent seen much Varsity transactions of late

and FH Stellar is .. 660-680 psf i think ... in other words Stellar is cheapest
Tell you the history about this area. the infiniti was launched in 2006 at less than 600 psf, and no one gave a damn about this condo. It was close to the highway and it has an odd shape. Carabelle was launched in February or March in 2007 at $590-$630 and was sold out in a month. the market was getting hot, so CDL and Capitaland launched botannia at 700 plus psf in March 2007 and still have not sold all units as of today. But the high prices of botannia made people think that the infiniti and carabelle were cheap, and the condos were sold out shortly.

In march 2007, one had many choices. You can buy the infinit for 630 psf, carabelle for 600psf, and botannia for 700 plus. You can also buy the stellar at 700 psf plus, and clementiwoods at 600 plus psf. Now all these condos are transacted at basically the same price psf. Now, you tell me which condo offered the best value back in March 2007. Of course, it is carabelle. that is why I said that carabelle is holding well very well against the neighbors.

proud owner
08-04-09, 12:18
Tell you the history about this area. the infiniti was launched in 2006 at less than 600 psf, and no one gave a damn about this condo. It was close to the highway and it has an odd shape. Carabelle was launched in February or March in 2007 at $590-$630 and was sold out in a month. the market was getting hot, so CDL and Capitaland launched botannia at 700 plus psf in March 2007 and still have not sold all units as of today. Buy the high prices of botannia made people think that the infiniti and carabelle were cheap, and the condos were sold out shortly.

In march 2007, one had many choices. You can buy the infinit for 630 psf, carabelle for 600psf, and botannia for 700 plus. You can also buy the stellar at 700 psf plus, and clementiwoods at 600 plus psf. Now all these condos are transacted at basically the same price psf. Now, you tell me which condo offered the best value back in March 2007. Of course, it is carabelle. that is why I said that carabelle is holding well very well against the neighbors.

thanks ...great info ...

stalingrad
08-04-09, 12:19
Hi all,

I'm looking for 4 rm min FH in this 4 ppty, wants to be short walking distance to bus stop at High way and near amenities.

any advise on this 4 ppty, need to move bu this yr.

Thks

the fininit: dirty and noisy, but the cheapest. it is also less accessible, given its location. You need to walk a long way to get to a bus stop.

carabelle: less dirty and less noisy, especially those units toward the west. the best in terms of accessibility. its two meters away from bus stops on AYE.

botannia: least dirty and least noisy, but accessibility is a problem. one needs to walk a long way to get to anywhere.

monterey park, less dirty and less noisy, and better accessibility, close to bus stops along west coast road.

In may way, if you can buy a unit in each condo at the same price, go for
1. monterey park, 2. carabelle, 3. botannia and 4. the infiniti.

at this moment, monterey park is the most expensive, follwed by botannia, carabelle, and the infiniti. But the gaps are very small.

wonderbee
08-04-09, 12:44
the fininit: dirty and noisy, but the cheapest. it is also less accessible, given its location. You need to walk a long way to get to a bus stop.

carabelle: less dirty and less noisy, especially those units toward the west. the best in terms of accessibility. its two meters away from bus stops on AYE.

botannia: least dirty and least noisy, but accessibility is a problem. one needs to walk a long way to get to anywhere.

monterey park, less dirty and less noisy, and better accessibility, close to bus stops along west coast road.

In may way, if you can buy a unit in each condo at the same price, go for
1. monterey park, 2. carabelle, 3. botannia and 4. the infiniti.

at this moment, monterey park is the most expensive, follwed by botannia, carabelle, and the infiniti. But the gaps are very small.


Fact is The Infiniti is FH, not the Carabelle or Botannia as i know of. Also, not all The Infiniti are affected by AYE noise, depends on the unit facing. Dirty? if you don't do clean up for years.

proud owner
08-04-09, 12:46
Fact is The Infiniti is FH, not the Carabelle or Botannia as i know of. Also, not all The Infiniti are affected by AYE noise, depends on the unit facing. Dirty? if you don't do clean up for years.


huh ??

i believe all 4 are FH

wonderbee
08-04-09, 13:02
huh ??

i believe all 4 are FH

The Infiniti is FH
Botannia is 956 LH
Monterey Park is 999LH
Carabelle not sure whether 99LH/999LH ? Have to find out from Sim Lian Developer

noblebaby
08-04-09, 13:04
huh ??

i believe all 4 are FH

technically the Infiniti is FH, Botania & Carabelle are 999 yrs.

so all FH.

proud owner
08-04-09, 13:18
technically the Infiniti is FH, Botania & Carabelle are 999 yrs.

so all FH.


any idea whats the difference between FH and 999 ??

i was once told that 999, govt still can take back part or whole of land and pay you 1965 price ...

is that right ?

noblebaby
08-04-09, 13:19
Allow me to add on:

The Infiniti: Yes, very noisy. You won't feel the joy when walking in the condo surrounding, too noisy! Some units layout are very odd. You may even find a huge pillar inside some of the master bedrooms.

Carabelle: Selling at sky high compared to the launch price. Best units are those facing the pool. Those facing landed are west facing, hot like hell during evening.

Botannia: More N-S facing. But expensive. Traffic jam at the entrance coz the road is connecting to the Infinit. Very narrow road.

The only good thing about these 3 projects is FH. other than that, not a very good place to live. Makan place n Mrt is quite far. Some time also lazy to drive out or take bus.



the fininit: dirty and noisy, but the cheapest. it is also less accessible, given its location. You need to walk a long way to get to a bus stop.

carabelle: less dirty and less noisy, especially those units toward the west. the best in terms of accessibility. its two meters away from bus stops on AYE.

botannia: least dirty and least noisy, but accessibility is a problem. one needs to walk a long way to get to anywhere.

monterey park, less dirty and less noisy, and better accessibility, close to bus stops along west coast road.

In may way, if you can buy a unit in each condo at the same price, go for
1. monterey park, 2. carabelle, 3. botannia and 4. the infiniti.

at this moment, monterey park is the most expensive, follwed by botannia, carabelle, and the infiniti. But the gaps are very small.

noblebaby
08-04-09, 13:24
any idea whats the difference between FH and 999 ??

i was once told that 999, govt still can take back part or whole of land and pay you 1965 price ...

is that right ?

not really sure... but I read it some where before, but couldn't remeber... basically, for FH, you pay the premium ahead of time. For 99 LH, you only pay what you get. If gov really want to take back, gov will pay close to market value even though it's a FH, pls correct me.

wonderbee
08-04-09, 13:43
any idea whats the difference between FH and 999 ??

i was once told that 999, govt still can take back part or whole of land and pay you 1965 price ...

is that right ?

Hope you can find some answers here...link http://www.querycat.com/question/3bac5cccc3e7a8c76b77d20a5033e9cc

stalingrad
08-04-09, 14:06
any idea whats the difference between FH and 999 ??

i was once told that 999, govt still can take back part or whole of land and pay you 1965 price ...

is that right ?

Not sure you are right. 1,000 years from now, our descendants probably don't even have to live on this planet, or they will have found a better way to live or build dwellings. Besides, the government would probably take another form, so condos would be sort of an outdated concept.

Can't help laughing that some of the infinitians think their condo is free hold, and the others are not. yes, technically there is a difference. but does it really matter?

Property_Owner
08-04-09, 14:27
any idea whats the difference between FH and 999 ??

i was once told that 999, govt still can take back part or whole of land and pay you 1965 price ...

is that right ?

They can always take back any land in singapore. Also for 99years buildings, not a must to top up another 99 years. A lot of factors. But don't think will pay you 1965 prices. As you mentioned before, inflation had set in. I believe for any land ah gong want to take back, you better prepare a big pocket to keep the cash.

puppet
08-04-09, 15:48
the fininit: dirty and noisy, but the cheapest. it is also less accessible, given its location. You need to walk a long way to get to a bus stop.

carabelle: less dirty and less noisy, especially those units toward the west. the best in terms of accessibility. its two meters away from bus stops on AYE.

botannia: least dirty and least noisy, but accessibility is a problem. one needs to walk a long way to get to anywhere.

monterey park, less dirty and less noisy, and better accessibility, close to bus stops along west coast road.

In may way, if you can buy a unit in each condo at the same price, go for
1. monterey park, 2. carabelle, 3. botannia and 4. the infiniti.

at this moment, monterey park is the most expensive, follwed by botannia, carabelle, and the infiniti. But the gaps are very small.

Hi,
thks for the info.

Noted that you have focused on dirt and noise. Noise is due to high way? dirt is due to?

Thot infiniti is now the cheapest?

Thks

puppet
08-04-09, 16:04
i actually bought a 2 bedrm pool view unit a few mths ago from someone who posted the sale here. Paid quite a bit more than the developer price, but i thought was quite worth it cos of the following few reasons

1. Huge pool, close to olympic size, >2times wider than monterey park's-
u can get a very good view of the whole project from the overhead bridge in front of Hong Leong Shopping Centre.
2. Neighbours living opposite your units are actually quite far away, because of the big central space with the big pool and other water features
3. the car park entrance of the development is quite convenient, and less prone to congestion - imagine 800units in nearby developments trying to drive out though a small road during peak hour.
4. good walking distance to bus stop and overhead bridge
5. a nice see through glass wall big balcony for every unit, vs the grill kind which gives quite a caged up-feel
6. the layouts of the units are quite reno-friendly i find. square living rooms and bedrooms

i wont drop too many points or others may say that i'm biased. Of course, u have to look at which are the things that matters more to you. Other developments may have better furnishings.
You can visit the botannia showflat which i think it's still open.
i'm not aiming to profit from my purchase, but i'm really looking forward to TOP next year to enjoy it.

Cheers
R99

Hi I went to see Infiniti, it can walk out to bus stop and OH bridge at hight way. Carabelle can ? Marketing how?

When it is TOP?

Juz4max
08-04-09, 17:12
Hi I went to see Infiniti, it can walk out to bus stop and OH bridge at hight way. Carabelle can ? Marketing how?

When it is TOP?

Carabelle’s main entrance is just diagonally opposite the overhead bridge, just cross West Coast Way will do.

puppet
09-04-09, 09:19
Hi I went to see Infiniti, it can walk out to bus stop and OH bridge at hight way. Carabelle can ? Marketing how?

When it is TOP?

Hi,

Cld U advise if I want unblock view (SeaView) and no West Sun, which range of block nos shld U be looking at?

Thks

puppet
09-04-09, 09:20
Carabelle’s main entrance is just diagonally opposite the overhead bridge, just cross West Coast Way will do.

Thks.. Still confused abt the firection :)

stalingrad
09-04-09, 12:52
Thks.. Still confused abt the firection :)

I believe some of the units at block 65 satisfy your criteria. See the attached site plan.

puppet
09-04-09, 17:28
I believe some of the units at block 65 satisfy your criteria. See the attached site plan.

Yah i saw this plan, but agent said it is the Blk 55 which can see Pulau Pukong... which thot it shld be the 60 plus then possible to see sea...

highroller
09-04-09, 19:20
Yah i saw this plan, but agent said it is the Blk 55 which can see Pulau Pukong... which thot it shld be the 60 plus then possible to see sea...

This is one property that probably has a seaview but not a fantastic one. If you can see the sea, you'll probably be able to see the shipyard along the shoreline as well, which is not all that pretty. I'd rather go for the pool view and the surrounding landscaping. At least it detracts the the viewer away from the "industrial feeling" south of the estate.

/HR

jdm
10-04-09, 18:26
What an ugly paint job!!!!:scared-1:

august
11-04-09, 16:06
The condo closest to AYE is the Infiniti right? I can see laundry hanging on balconies, hahaha wat a sight..:D

the one further in has a somewhat "distinct" paint colour, is that carabelle?

SP specialist
14-04-09, 20:18
HI Carabelle sellers, anyone keen to sell their 2brm unit on stack 02? Have a buyer with cheque on hand. Budget: 640k

Urgent! Buyer need to purchase within this month.

Please contact me at 96337533.

dodobird
22-04-09, 16:52
Hi,

I`m looking to buy a 2 bedder at 620K.

Please drop me a msg at [email protected] if you are have an unit on hand. Thanks!

dimspice
04-05-09, 10:35
hey guys, this might be rather belated. but i just noticed the new upcoming mrt line will include a stop at west coast? anyone knows if the station will be near carabelle? haha or when the station is expected to be ready?

with mrt n the condo shuttle to clementi, maybe can really consider carabelle (when prices sweeten!) without getting a car to avoid the peak hour jams...

no mrt at west coast near any of the condos there unfortunately. nearest is Clementi mrt which most of the shuttle buses of condo will go to.

proud owner
04-05-09, 10:40
no mrt at west coast near any of the condos there unfortunately. nearest is Clementi mrt which most of the shuttle buses of condo will go to.

the west coast station is outside Haw par villa ...
from Vivo city to tiong bahru ..to alexandra (Labrador park ) , to Pasir panjang ( pasir panjang foodcourt) , Hawpar villa, Kent ridge (NUH) , one north, Buona vista station

dimspice
05-05-09, 11:17
the west coast station is outside Haw par villa ...
from Vivo city to tiong bahru ..to alexandra (Labrador park ) , to Pasir panjang ( pasir panjang foodcourt) , Hawpar villa, Kent ridge (NUH) , one north, Buona vista station

yeah the West Coast station is still far from the condos like Monterey Park, Botannia, Carabelle and Infiniti. I suppose the new condos would still have shuttle buses to take residents to nearest MRT station which I think likely will be Clementi......anyway was hoping that there would be one MRT nearer but oh well..... :)

proud owner
05-05-09, 11:54
yeah the West Coast station is still far from the condos like Monterey Park, Botannia, Carabelle and Infiniti. I suppose the new condos would still have shuttle buses to take residents to nearest MRT station which I think likely will be Clementi......anyway was hoping that there would be one MRT nearer but oh well..... :)

if you are buying to stay ..

consider Crystal Heights ... its a small project ..launched last yr .. on top on Pasir Panjang hill ... i think they sold a few units ..then stopped selling ...

its walking distance to west coast station

dimspice
05-05-09, 12:56
if you are buying to stay ..

consider Crystal Heights ... its a small project ..launched last yr .. on top on Pasir Panjang hill ... i think they sold a few units ..then stopped selling ...

its walking distance to west coast station

thanks for the info :). so just checked on crystal heights on the net and yes very small development of 17 units only and TOP 2010 but, not much more info on it.

1bg1
07-05-09, 16:11
thanks for the info :). so just checked on crystal heights on the net and yes very small development of 17 units only and TOP 2010 but, not much more info on it.


Any price range indicated?

novel
07-05-09, 17:08
Hi,

Am keen in getting a unit in this area, if anyone serious in selling their unit 3BR + 1 study please email me at [email protected].

Thank you.

jozz91
09-05-09, 14:16
Hi Owners,

I am a serious buyer who is interested in a 2 bedder in Botannia, Carabelle or The Infiniti.
Please drop me a mail at [email protected] if you have one to sell.

Thank you! :)

novel
11-05-09, 11:26
Hi, wonder if anybody face similar respond from the seller agent (which they claim to be).

Saw a unit Carabelle listing for $650psf on ST paper, find out which stack and went down to view the unit facing. Decided to make offer next day but when try contacting her to check if still available - there is no repsond at all. :doh:

Strange..:confused: why?

can view the unit now? thot it is not completed yet?

stalingrad
11-05-09, 11:41
can view the unit now? thot it is not completed yet?

You can view many units' exterior from the infiniti. But you cannot get into the interior.

So, it is possible to see the orientation of each unit. You can even see the quality of the materials used in the construction, at least for the back yard and balcony.

novel
11-05-09, 13:31
view from infiniti? You mean get into infiniti to see the units of carabelle?

can share with me how to view the unit is facing which direction? Thank you. :)

stalingrad
11-05-09, 13:58
view from infiniti? You mean get into infiniti to see the units of carabelle?

can share with me how to view the unit is facing which direction? Thank you. :)

No, you don't really need to get into the infiniti literally. You can walk along the path separating infiniti and carabelle and take a look at the units on the carabelle side. The guards at the infiniti would not mind.

You will find out while the infiniti is very noisy, carabelle is very quiet becasue the noise is blocked off by infiniti. Carabelle Units next to the infiniti are actually quieter than units on the western side although the western side units are farther away from the AYE. all thanks to infiniti acting as a noise screen.

How to view which side each unit faces? Since you can see most units at carabelle from the infiniti, you can see which directin each unit faces, by referring to a compass or by using the sun as the reference point.

proud owner
11-05-09, 14:08
No, you don't really need to get into the infiniti literally. You can walk along the path separating infiniti and carabelle and take a look at the units on the carabelle side. The guards at the infiniti would not mind.

You will find out while the infiniti is very noisy, carabelle is very quiet becasue the noise is blocked off by infiniti. Carabelle Units next to the infiniti are actually quieter than units on the western side although the western side units are farther away from the AYE. all thanks to infiniti acting as a noise screen.

How to view which side each unit faces? Since you can see most units at carabelle from the infiniti, you can see which directin each unit faces, by referring to a compass or by using the sun as the reference point.

alternatively .. call up some agents who advertise for Infiniti ... go view Carabelle from inside Infiniti !!$!%$!%!@ :doh:

novel
11-05-09, 15:06
alternatively .. call up some agents who advertise for Infiniti ... go view Carabelle from inside Infiniti !!$!%$!%!@ :doh:

haha...dun get fed up! :ashamed1: But I find this alternative abit absurd... keep looking at Carabelle while the agent talking to you about the features of Infiniti.

proud owner
11-05-09, 15:22
haha...dun get fed up! :ashamed1: But I find this alternative abit absurd... keep looking at Carabelle while the agent talking to you about the features of Infiniti.

just like those aunties in Tangs basement ..

you think they really interested to buy those cooking utensils ?

they just wanted to try to food ...

Property_Owner
11-05-09, 15:35
just like those aunties in Tangs basement ..

you think they really interested to buy those cooking utensils ?

they just wanted to try to food ...

lol, not only aunty. Uncle like me too sometimes do these.

novel
11-05-09, 15:37
BTW, for those owners of Carabelle, any news when is the TOP? Is it really Jun/Jul 2009 or later part of the year?

novel
11-05-09, 15:39
haha ok, so I got to think like an auntie...

BTW, owners of carabelle any idea when is the TOP? Is it really Jun/Jul 09 or later part of the year?

stalingrad
11-05-09, 15:57
august this year. heard it from Sim Lian itself.

Juz4max
11-05-09, 17:58
august this year. heard it from Sim Lian itself.

Where to get this info? From Sim Lian web site?

stalingrad
12-05-09, 09:37
Where to get this info? From Sim Lian web site?

let your fingers do the dialing.

dimspice
12-05-09, 12:44
wonder if they will be planting more trees in Carabelle. looking kinda bare compared to the nice greens in Botannia.

spetnez
12-05-09, 21:12
Pls pm me if any fire sale for 4 bedrooms. Thanks!

proud owner
12-05-09, 23:01
Pls pm me if any fire sale for 4 bedrooms. Thanks!

what psf would be a firesale to you?

spetnez
13-05-09, 07:17
At developer's price or lower. :)

home-run
13-05-09, 08:10
haha...dun get fed up! :ashamed1: But I find this alternative abit absurd... keep looking at Carabelle while the agent talking to you about the features of Infiniti.

I've a better example...it's like going out with your wife for shopping on sunday and taking a peek on hot chicks hmmm
:scared-5:

proud owner
13-05-09, 09:42
I've a better example...it's like going out with your wife for shopping on sunday and taking a peek on hot chicks hmmm
:scared-5:

advice to all guys :

whenever you go out with her, hold her hand ... the moment you let go, she shops ...

:doh:

novel
13-05-09, 15:21
Hi guys,

I was checking ard, and the price for Carabelle suddenly shot up even higher than Botannia!!!

If that's the case, I might as well buy Botannia since the development is bigger and nicer. :tongue3:

proud owner
13-05-09, 15:24
Hi guys,

I was checking ard, and the price for Carabelle suddenly shot up even higher than Botannia!!!

If that's the case, I might as well buy Botannia since the development is bigger and nicer. :tongue3:

from what psf to what psf ?

novel
13-05-09, 15:32
now all asking 770 ~ 800 psf :hell-hath-no-fury:

proud owner
13-05-09, 15:41
now all asking 770 ~ 800 psf :hell-hath-no-fury:

serious ?

just saw a unit at Stellar ...below 750 psf

proud owner
13-05-09, 15:42
now all asking 770 ~ 800 psf :hell-hath-no-fury:

but then can bank match the valuation ?

novel
13-05-09, 15:52
the seller wun bother right if really got such taker? :P

one of the agent still called me up and say if I dun buy now dun regret later.... :banghead:

proud owner
13-05-09, 16:22
the seller wun bother right if really got such taker? :P

one of the agent still called me up and say if I dun buy now dun regret later.... :banghead:

then tell agent there are cheaper ones ...like stellar

stalingrad
13-05-09, 16:48
now all asking 770 ~ 800 psf :hell-hath-no-fury:

Oh, come on. I don't believe that. I own a unit at Carabelle. I don't believe that the agents are asking for that kind of prices.

stalingrad
13-05-09, 16:54
One possible reason is that P1 registration starting in 2 months. A lot of parents would want to place their kids in Nanhua, 1 km from which is Cababelle located.

but if Nanhua is want the buyers want, they can buy the infiniti, which are still charging reasonably low prices. unless buyers don't like noise and dust, for which the infiniti is nortorious.

How about Botannia? Which is located within 1 km of Nanhua. The only problem is accessibility.

But I don't believe the 770-800 pricing you guys were talking about.

novel
13-05-09, 17:04
Oh, come on. I don't believe that. I own a unit at Carabelle. I don't believe that the agents are asking for that kind of prices.

really?!! That agent tell me if I hold on then I will regret blah blah as now the economy is stabling.

I just replied him "we shall see how stable the economy is... "

stalingrad, I would like to be your neighbour but seems not fated :p And I really hope economy will improve as I rather face a boom to buy property than in a recession.

stalingrad
13-05-09, 17:10
Check propertyguru.com.sg. a lot of carabelle units are for sale for less than $700 psf. but many of them were put up a while ago. So, it is questionable whether the prices are current or not.

But I would sell my unit right away if I can get 770psf. Hope someone makes me an offer. haha. I would laugh all the way to the bank.

cheerful
13-05-09, 17:15
Check propertyguru.com.sg. a lot of carabelle units are for sale for less than $700 psf. but many of them were put up a while ago. So, it is questionable whether the prices are current or not.

But I would sell my unit right away if I can get 770psf. Hope someone makes me an offer. haha. I would laugh all the way to the bank.

How much did you pay for yours that you would sell right away at 770psf?? Btw, is Clementiwoods/Stellar within that 1km fr Nanhua?

novel
13-05-09, 17:20
stalingrad, may I know your unit is how many bedrooms? And bought at which price, psf?

anyway, i think now the agent/seller is trying to raise prices due to the recently stock rally as market seems to be recovering... once they know they cannot sell at those price, they will lower the price.

And you know what the agent told me too? He said the units he has with him, the owners has holding power so will not sell lower than their request price.

Ok lor, hold those units with you lor :tongue3: I look at Botannia or elsewhere in West then.

stalingrad
13-05-09, 17:21
How much did you pay for yours that you would sell right away at 770psf?? Btw, is Clementiwoods/Stellar within that 1km fr Nanhua?

We paid about 600psf from the developer, sim Lian, which is a fair price. We do have a kid starting schooling next year. So, for me to sell, my kid has to hate Nanhua, which is possible, given that my son doesn't speak a lot of Chinese.

nah, clementiwoods and the stellar are at least 3 kms from nanhua. you can't even join the balloting.

novel
13-05-09, 17:25
stalingrad, you are going for ballot or old boy in NH?

stalingrad
13-05-09, 17:26
stalingrad, may I know your unit is how many bedrooms? And bought at which price, psf?

anyway, i think now the agent/seller is trying to raise prices due to the recently stock rally as market seems to be recovering... once they know they cannot sell at those price, they will lower the price.

And you know what the agent told me too? He said the units he has with him, the owners has holding power so will not sell lower than their request price.

Ok lor, hold those units with you lor :tongue3: I look at Botannia or elsewhere in West then.

we have a 3 bedder. 1,302 sqf. you want it? I don't mind selling at about 730psf.

the thing is I want my son to go to fairfield methodist primary, which put less emphasis on chinese. We prefer to live in the one north area.

Nanhua for me is too chinese, and kids are driven crazy there for chinese.

stalingrad
13-05-09, 17:28
stalingrad, you are going for ballot or old boy in NH?

we will probably going for a ballot, both for nanhua and clementi primary. But my heart is in fairefield methodist. So if I like to sell it at a fair price, we will move to one north.

novel
13-05-09, 17:30
I want a 3BR +1 Study (1238 sqft / 1302 sqft) heehee....anyway you can continue staying there :p as I will not pay 730psf.

But if you did see any nice lobang, do let me know. Thank you very much.

I am an old gal from NH so no matter where I will be in west next time I can definitely let my kids in so it is not a die die for me to buy Carabelle. ;)

proud owner
13-05-09, 17:33
I want a 3BR +1 Study (1238 sqft / 1302 sqft) heehee....anyway you can continue staying there :p as I will not pay 730psf.

But if you did see any nice lobang, do let me know. Thank you very much.

I am an old gal from NH so no matter where I will be in west next time I can definitely let my kids in so it is not a die die for me to buy Carabelle. ;)

hahaha

you are such a teaser ...

stalingrad
13-05-09, 17:34
I want a 3BR +1 Study (1238 sqft / 1302 sqft) heehee....anyway you can continue staying there :p as I will not pay 730psf.

But if you did see any nice lobang, do let me know. Thank you very much.

how much will you pay? just out of curiority. I cannot sell without my wife's okay.

don't worry, won't hold you to it. I don't think I want to sell at this moment. why, because if I sell, I need to buy one north,which are still selling at 900 psf range. also, I like that fact that carabelle is freehold. one north is not.

novel
13-05-09, 17:36
hahaha

you are such a teaser ...

haha...

proud owner, if you see any nice lobang do share with me too, as I noticed you do monitor the property market constantly. Thank you!

stalingrad
13-05-09, 17:37
I want a 3BR +1 Study (1238 sqft / 1302 sqft) heehee....anyway you can continue staying there :p as I will not pay 730psf.

But if you did see any nice lobang, do let me know. Thank you very much.

I am an old gal from NH so no matter where I will be in west next time I can definitely let my kids in so it is not a die die for me to buy Carabelle. ;)

but you would love to live so close to NH, right? haha, just teasing you. NOt going to sell. Afraid of selling and then all of a sudden see the market zoom upward, and end up with nothing to live in.

novel
13-05-09, 17:37
how much will you pay? just out of curiority. I cannot sell without my wife's okay.

don't worry, won't hold you to it. I don't think I want to sell at this moment. why, because if I sell, I need to buy one north,which are still selling at 900 psf range. also, I like that fact that carabelle is freehold. one north is not.

yours is not 3BR+1Study so not really ideal for me....

stalingrad
13-05-09, 17:39
haha...

proud owner, if you see any nice lobang do share with me too, as I noticed you do monitor the property market constantly. Thank you!

I think NOvel will buy only if we sell at 600 psf to her. no, I cannot do that. because I would have no pace to live if I did that. I need more than I paid for, so that I can buy one north.

novel
13-05-09, 17:41
but you would love to live so close to NH, right? haha, just teasing you. NOt going to sell. Afraid of selling and then all of a sudden see the market zoom upward, and end up with nothing to live in.

I think with car anyway will be near NH for west developments. ;)

novel
13-05-09, 17:42
I think NOvel will buy only if we sell at 600 psf to her. no, I cannot do that. because I would have no pace to live if I did that. I need more than I paid for, so that I can buy one north.

Plsss I am not so greedy to not let you earn some margin...how abt 610psf you let go? hahah...

stalingrad
13-05-09, 17:48
Plsss I am not so greedy to not let you earn some margin...how abt 610psf you let go? hahah...

haha. thanks for the private message.

You think you would try to get a unit at the former hong leong garden condo? As I said, CDL is going to launch the project in a few weeks.