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kingkong1984
13-01-11, 22:19
Property always go up in the long run. 4 years later sure go up.

sleek
13-01-11, 23:52
But don't forget that more cash is now needed, if you still have a housing loan outstanding. :D

devilplate
13-01-11, 23:55
But don't forget that more cash is now needed, if you still have a housing loan outstanding. :D

hehe...u r wicked:D

sleek
14-01-11, 00:01
No la, just reminding others. :cool:


hehe...u r wicked:D

spikey69
14-01-11, 14:24
interestingly, just had someone who called my agent to enquire about my unit at W28...hmmm...hunters out there coming out very fast!

sleek
14-01-11, 14:27
Maybe its Armstrong's agent? ;)


interestingly, just had someone who called my agent to enquire about my unit at W28...hmmm...hunters out there coming out very fast!

devilplate
14-01-11, 14:30
interestingly, just had someone who called my agent to enquire about my unit at W28...hmmm...hunters out there coming out very fast!
They put in an opportunistic offer??

spikey69
14-01-11, 14:36
They put in an opportunistic offer??

no offer...maybe really Armstrong's agent haha. I can hold for a long time. If I don't find a suitable price, then I will probably rent out once it TOPs (after PAP comes into Potong Pasir) this year.

DC33_2008
14-01-11, 14:40
Everybody will think the same way by renting out. Just hope there is rental demand. Otherwise, rental will drop if there are desperate owners. This has happened in some TOP developments.

sleek
14-01-11, 14:41
Streetsine (http://streetsine.com/static/home2/map.jsp#postalcode-357774-APT) :cheers1:

spikey69
14-01-11, 14:43
Everybody will think the same way by renting out. Just hope there is rental demand. Otherwise, rental will drop if there are desperate owners. This has happened in some TOP developments.

are you familiar with W28? It's sitting on top of a MRT three stops from town.

sure have rental demand...only question is how much.

5577
14-01-11, 14:46
Anyone knows what's the expected rental rate for a 2br or 3br for this development then?:)

devilplate
14-01-11, 14:50
Anyone knows what's the expected rental rate for a 2br or 3br for this development then?:)
3k for 2 bedder

DC33_2008
14-01-11, 14:51
That is exactly what I meant. The rental rate. I have seen newly TOP development that is 5 mins walk to mrt stn and one stop from town that has dropped rental rate even before the implementation of all the measures. It is about human sentiment. W28 station is more than 5 mins walk and 3 stations away from town (not shenton way).
are you familiar with W28? It's sitting on top of a MRT three stops from town.

sure have rental demand...only question is how much.

spikey69
14-01-11, 15:01
That is exactly what I meant. The rental rate. I have seen newly TOP development that is 5 mins walk to mrt stn and one stop from town that has dropped rental rate even before the implementation of all the measures. It is about human sentiment. W28 station is more than 5 mins walk and 3 stations away from town (not shenton way).

aiya...let's not go into a discussion 5min, 6 min, 7 min walk to MRT station, to the MRT entrance, to the MRT station control. It is simply the NEAREST condo to Potong Pasir MRT. I have stayed there in that area in two HDB flats and a landed property...it is so near to the MRT, that the MRT station ventilation shaft is poking out directly in front of one of the units I wanted to buy.

unless rental rates drop to below $2 psf, then I am not worried. It has a long way to go. Going by One Leicester rates, rental rates there are about $3 to $3.20 psf for the area.

southpark2000
14-01-11, 16:55
aiya...let's not go into a discussion 5min, 6 min, 7 min walk to MRT station, to the MRT entrance, to the MRT station control. It is simply the NEAREST condo to Potong Pasir MRT. I have stayed there in that area in two HDB flats and a landed property...it is so near to the MRT, that the MRT station ventilation shaft is poking out directly in front of one of the units I wanted to buy.

unless rental rates drop to below $2 psf, then I am not worried. It has a long way to go. Going by One Leicester rates, rental rates there are about $3 to $3.20 psf for the area.

Errr......with COE at stratospheric levels, expect both rentals and price of condos that are very near MRTs to rise even higher..... :money-faced1:

spikey69
14-01-11, 17:43
Errr......with COE at stratospheric levels, expect both rentals and price of condos that are very near MRTs to rise even higher..... :money-faced1:


i definitely AGREE with you!

devilplate
14-01-11, 17:59
the only problem is: got other FHs around the area...same situation as 8wood though....

Armstrong
15-01-11, 11:27
the only problem is: got other FHs around the area...same situation as 8wood though....

this is not really true, new generation don't really care whether is FH or LH. :doh:

Armstrong
15-01-11, 11:30
Maybe its Armstrong's agent? ;)


cannot be lah, have yet to give any instruction to my agent. I target to buy Woodsville at $900psf and woodleigh at $850

cheers

DC33_2008
15-01-11, 12:00
When everything being simlar, LH and FH makes a different. In becomes more important with all the new measures. Imagine a 4-year economic viable period of holding by each buyer of the unit. Maybe new generation is constraint by price.
this is not really true, new generation don't really care whether is FH or LH. :doh:

sleek
16-01-11, 14:06
Here's a shot taken from the overhead bridge at Bidadari Park.


hi sleek & azeprop, any updated pic of woodsville 28 to be shared here?
many thks, :cheers1:

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk36/sleek00000/16012011696.jpg

wkang1970
16-01-11, 14:43
[quote=sleek]Here's a shot taken from the overhead bridge at Bidadari Park.

Hi Sleek, thanks for the shot, just drive around the area this morning and visited the NIN show flat. :)

spikey69
18-01-11, 16:54
Hey Armstrong,
unit at #16-02 (1399 sq ft 3 BR just below PH) selling at 1000 psf (Neg!). Chiong ah! Check out prop guru.

devilplate
18-01-11, 16:56
Hey Armstrong,
unit at #16-02 (1399 sq ft 3 BR just below PH) selling at 1000 psf (Neg!). Chiong ah! Check out prop guru.

gd deal...nego somemore...950psf can consider i tink

wkang1970
18-01-11, 19:33
gd deal...nego somemore...950psf can consider i tink

just sms from an agent, saaying that his buyer willing to pay 1.2m to 1.3m for 3 br @ W28. Anyone receive it?

spikey69
18-01-11, 20:57
just sms from an agent, saaying that his buyer willing to pay 1.2m to 1.3m for 3 br @ W28. Anyone receive it?

nope, didn't get anything - but if it is for a 1184 sq ft 3BR unit, some should bite...but i don't think owners of the 1399 sq ft BR will sell at this price.

spikey69
19-01-11, 20:27
28 Woodsville Close #05-04
$986 psf
883 sq ft
$870k
28 Dec 10

1000 psf coming closer...

Armstrong
19-01-11, 20:50
28 Woodsville Close #05-04
$986 psf
883 sq ft
$870k
28 Dec 10

1000 psf coming closer...

this new cooling measurement not effective, price is still so strong, don't see price plunge :doh:

spikey69
19-01-11, 20:53
this new cooling measurement not effective, price is still so strong, don't see price plunge :doh:

u didn't check out the 16-02 unit?

spikey69
19-01-11, 20:54
this new cooling measurement not effective, price is still so strong, don't see price plunge :doh:

price strong because coming to TOP...and Nin just transacted 3 units above 1100 psf (but not even constructed yet).

southpark2000
19-01-11, 21:37
this new cooling measurement not effective, price is still so strong, don't see price plunge :doh:
Armstrong

I feel for you and do hope we can be neighbours soon. Price is going to be as high as NIN.
- W28 was launched at ard 900 - 920 psf; those folks wld need to hold till it reaches high 900's to 1000 to breakeven; 1100 to make decent profits
- The second batch of buyers bought around 750 - 800psf. Assuming they are specuvestors, they would have cashed out by now, or are well endowed and sitting pretty and waiting for higher prices
- If they are not, then they are homeowners seeking to stay. it will take a lot to lodge them.

kingkong1984
19-01-11, 21:48
Between the two group, go for the bigger profit for owner. What logic? It means if both selling at 1100 psf, owner a bought at 900 and owner b bought at 700. The one who bought at 700 is more likely to bite. After all, the money is to be used to buy another replacement home if he intends to stay there. Go find owner b quickly. It should not affect those who had secured bank payments earlier.

Armstrong
19-01-11, 21:51
Armstrong

I feel for you and do hope we can be neighbours soon. Price is going to be as high as NIN.
- W28 was launched at ard 900 - 920 psf; those folks wld need to hold till it reaches high 900's to 1000 to breakeven; 1100 to make decent profits
- The second batch of buyers bought around 750 - 800psf. Assuming they are specuvestors, they would have cashed out by now, or are well endowed and sitting pretty and waiting for higher prices
- If they are not, then they are homeowners seeking to stay. it will take a lot to lodge them.

yes, i also think so.

though some complain that the traffic at woodsville, leicester, nin, etc are horrible, but look around, which part of spore is not heavy traffic? i only believe any project is next to mrt, the value will even better than freehold project, demand is always there, especially spore is facing ageing population. old people will tend to make use of convenient public transport rather than driving... can't drive i guess.

hope to get 1 soon around this area.

sleek
19-01-11, 21:52
But he only looking for those selling below $1k psf leh. :D


Between the two group, go for the bigger profit for owner. What logic? It means if both selling at 1100 psf, owner a bought at 900 and owner b bought at 700. The one who bought at 700 is more likely to bite. After all, the money is to be used to buy another replacement home if he intends to stay there. Go find owner b quickly. It should not affect those who had secured bank payments earlier.

Armstrong
19-01-11, 22:02
But he only looking for those selling below $1k psf leh. :D

:) hope to get 1 from fire sales.

southpark2000
20-01-11, 22:32
yes, i also think so.

though some complain that the traffic at woodsville, leicester, nin, etc are horrible, but look around, which part of spore is not heavy traffic? i only believe any project is next to mrt, the value will even better than freehold project, demand is always there, especially spore is facing ageing population. old people will tend to make use of convenient public transport rather than driving... can't drive i guess.

hope to get 1 soon around this area.
x2.....especially when you throw in the following into the equation.
- Sky-high COEs
- Daylight robbery cabfares
- Freakish weather in the form of sweaty summers and biblical-grade thunderstorms!!!!

God help those whose condos are not within stone's throw to MRT.

Armstrong
21-01-11, 08:42
x2.....especially when you throw in the following into the equation.
- Sky-high COEs
- Daylight robbery cabfares
- Freakish weather in the form of sweaty summers and biblical-grade thunderstorms!!!!

God help those whose condos are not within stone's throw to MRT.

Totally agree. actually condo that are within stone's throw are limited and are at city fringe are even limited, like city square, citylight, waterbank, etc.

devilplate
21-01-11, 08:46
Totally agree. actually condo that are within stone's throw are limited and are at city fringe are even limited, like city square, citylight, waterbank, etc.

ooo...really...den i must really hold tight for those u mentioned:D

wkang1970
21-01-11, 08:49
ooo...really...den i must really hold tight for those u mentioned:D

:D me too.... will hold tight, no $1500psf, no sell. :p

devilplate
21-01-11, 08:52
:D me too.... will hold tight, no $1500psf, no sell. :p

u mean woodsville 1.5kpsf?!! 1.2kpsf can let go liao lor...hehe:ashamed1:

spikey69
21-01-11, 11:23
u mean woodsville 1.5kpsf?!! 1.2kpsf can let go liao lor...hehe:ashamed1:

i am ready to release at $1150 :)...take and run...if cannot run, rent out.

spikey69
22-01-11, 23:52
huat ah! $1000 psf breached!

28 Woodsville Close #15-05



99 Yrs From 15/10/2007


$1013


829


$840k



06 Jan 11

Armstrong
23-01-11, 09:28
this is the unit that i resist to up the offer, i should.:confused:



huat ah! $1000 psf breached!

28 Woodsville Close #15-05



99 Yrs From 15/10/2007


$1013


829


$840k



06 Jan 11

spikey69
23-01-11, 09:46
this is the unit that i resist to up the offer, i should.:confused:
u did not try #16-02? asking 1000 psf neg

southpark2000
23-01-11, 10:54
u did not try #16-02? asking 1000 psf neg

Yeah - #16-02 is good unit....not that I own it (I wish)

Armstrong
29-01-11, 18:38
u did not try #16-02? asking 1000 psf neg

this is 1399 sq ft right? Too big for me, 1184 or 1195 sqft just nice for me.
have to wait for another 1 or 2 mths to see how the market behave.

spikey69
29-01-11, 21:11
this is 1399 sq ft right? Too big for me, 1184 or 1195 sqft just nice for me.
have to wait for another 1 or 2 mths to see how the market behave.

yup - 1399 sq ft...unlikely to drop as it coming even closer to TOP between Jun and Sep this year.

Armstrong
08-02-11, 16:26
yup - 1399 sq ft...unlikely to drop as it coming even closer to TOP between Jun and Sep this year.

i also think price is unlikely to drop. Nevermind have to start to look for other areas.

Armstrong
08-02-11, 16:28
heard that opposite of Woodsville 28, a new project will be launched in mid of the year, is this true? maybe by then will have a chance. :)

BV
08-02-11, 16:49
heard that opposite of Woodsville 28, a new project will be launched in mid of the year, is this true? maybe by then will have a chance. :)

Yeah, it's on the URA's Government Land Sales confirmed list.

http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/graphics/2010/pr10-137a16.pdf

Narrow plot, but right on top of MRT Station, next to Nin Residences. Tender in Jun 2011. Wonder what the bids will be like given the cooling measures? There's even enough time between now and then for 1 more round of measures if the govt so chooses... :beats-me-man:

5577
08-02-11, 18:51
Yeah, it's on the URA's Government Land Sales confirmed list.

http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/graphics/2010/pr10-137a16.pdf

Narrow plot, but right on top of MRT Station, next to Nin Residences. Tender in Jun 2011. Wonder what the bids will be like given the cooling measures? There's even enough time between now and then for 1 more round of measures if the govt so chooses... :beats-me-man:

99 years leasehold? :)

Armstrong
08-02-11, 20:36
99 years leasehold? :)

should be 99 yrs leasehold, is very rare to find any freehold next to mrt.
Anyway as long is next to mrt like NIN, woodsville 28 or woodleigh, etc even is 99 yrs, value is always there.

5577
08-02-11, 21:20
should be 99 yrs leasehold, is very rare to find any freehold next to mrt.
Anyway as long is next to mrt like NIN, woodsville 28 or woodleigh, etc even is 99 yrs, value is always there.

It will be interesting to see how much the developers will be bidding for. The estimated number of housing units is 330. Same as 8@w.

spikey69
08-02-11, 21:26
hmmm...that plot can really hold 330 units? That plot really doesn't look that big.

devilplate
08-02-11, 21:28
hmmm...that plot can really hold 330 units? That plot really doesn't look that big.

330 units of MMs lor:doh:

5577
08-02-11, 21:28
hmmm...that plot can really hold 330 units? That plot really doesn't look that big.

Dunno leh.... I saw that in the link provided by BV.

devilplate
08-02-11, 21:32
should be 99 yrs leasehold, is very rare to find any freehold next to mrt.
Anyway as long is next to mrt like NIN, woodsville 28 or woodleigh, etc even is 99 yrs, value is always there.

ever since duno when....all GLS r 99LH....only ah gong ah ma enbloc deals will translate to FH launches

spikey69
08-02-11, 21:46
330 units of MMs lor:doh:
:tsk-tsk: i don't think it can fit 200 MMs lor...go down and take a look at the plot and you will understand.

devilplate
08-02-11, 21:49
:tsk-tsk: i don't think it can fit 200 MMs lor...go down and take a look at the plot and you will understand.

the size similar to Nin residence rite?

can la...330 units of 300sqft MMs lor:p

Armstrong
09-02-11, 10:29
the size similar to Nin residence rite?

can la...330 units of 300sqft MMs lor:p

har! then is not MMs, it is shoe box :doh:

scsc
09-02-11, 15:19
har! then is not MMs, it is shoe box :doh:

maybe new term comes out like
<500sqft: MMs... Mickey Mouse
<400sqft: SBs... Shoe Box
< 300sqft: MBs.... Match-Box :scared-4:

BV
09-02-11, 18:48
Some basic calculations regarding the plot of land to be launched for tender.

Size is 8500 sqm, or around 91500 sqft.

Plot ratio is 3.5, meaning allowable Gross Floor Area is 91500 x 3.5 = 320,250 sqft.

So for 330 units, each unit averages around 320,250sqft / 330 = 970 sqft.

This is without the 'bonus' gross floor area that the developers get for balconies and stuff. So the average unit size will be around 1000 sqft then?

Not too small actually, given that there is definitely going to be a number of studios included among the 330 units. :)

But given the GPR of 3.5, it does mean that there is a large number of units sharing a small plot of land and limited space for facilities.... Also, looking at the orientation and shape of the land, it is most likely the most units in the project to have East or West facing :2cents:

kingkong1984
09-02-11, 19:02
Cannot have underground car park?
Facilities in mid and maybe top deck

spikey69
11-02-11, 18:42
28 Woodsville Close #17-07 $1063 psf 1195 sq ft $1270k 11 Jan 11

Huat Ah!

wkang1970
11-02-11, 23:50
28 Woodsville Close #17-07 $1063 psf 1195 sq ft $1270k 11 Jan 11

Huat Ah!

Can only see more sellers here if price hit $1200psf........:)

spikey69
12-02-11, 04:25
Can only see more sellers here if price hit $1200psf........:)
slowly...going to top in a few mths

Armstrong
12-02-11, 13:03
slowly...going to top in a few mths

tough i think, some developers start to give discount, price will drop.

spikey69
12-02-11, 13:50
tough i think, some developers start to give discount, price will drop.
hmmm....benchmark price now 1063 psf...

wkang1970
12-02-11, 13:51
tough i think, some developers start to give discount, price will drop.

which developer or project is giving discounts? How much?

Armstrong
12-02-11, 13:56
which developer or project is giving discounts? How much?

check this page...

http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php?t=10800

even waterview at tampines also giving some sort of rebates, detail must check with them.

sleek
12-02-11, 15:16
Just went to see Nin Residences and they are giving Free Washing Machine, Fridge and 3% Cash Rebate on TOP. :D

But still think there are better resale and sub-sale units in the area. :p


check this page...

http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php?t=10800

even waterview at tampines also giving some sort of rebates, detail must check with them.

DC33_2008
12-02-11, 15:18
Another site will be sold just in front of the Potong Pasir MRT stn. Price will trend higher. But more MM units to come.

Armstrong
12-02-11, 15:29
Just went to see Nin Residences and they are giving Free Washing Machine, Fridge and 3% Cash Rebate on TOP. :D

But still think there are better resale and sub-sale units in the area. :p

True, sub-sale units around the area still look attractive than this NIN. If a 3bedroom is at $1.5m after 3% rebate, still around $1.45m.

sleek
12-02-11, 15:41
Yup, checked the price of a 3-bedder of 1,281sf on the 7fl at $1.63M, discount to $1.53M which works out $1,196psf, before the 3% cash rebate.

And a recent 8@W subsale :-

2 Woodleigh Close #06-02 $1000 1098 $1098k 19 Jan 11

:cheers6:


True, sub-sale units around the area still look attractive than this NIN. If a 3bedroom is at $1.5m after 3% rebate, still around $1.45m.

wkang1970
12-02-11, 16:04
Yup, checked the price of a 3-bedder of 1,281sf on the 7fl at $1.63M, discount to $1.53M which works out $1,196psf, before the 3% cash rebate.

And a recent 8@W subsale :-

2 Woodleigh Close #06-02 $1000 1098 $1098k 19 Jan 11

:cheers6:


wow...in this case W28 & 8@W .... HUAT AH!!! :spliff:

DC33_2008
12-02-11, 16:58
Should hold for mid to long-term. More happenings at the site in front of woodleigh station.

devilplate
12-02-11, 17:22
Should hold for mid to long-term. More happenings at the site in front of woodleigh station.

99LH leh....i wun hold for long term...if hit my TG price...i let go liao...:D

DC33_2008
12-02-11, 17:24
That is why should get FH in this area. Not LH.

Armstrong
12-02-11, 20:58
That is why should get FH in this area. Not LH.

u people really funny, so fortunate to get 1 unit at earlier stage, why bother LH or FH? Land is so scare here, LH will also be enbloc. Furthermore where to find next to mrt that is FH?

Be contended please!

DC33_2008
13-02-11, 11:35
Landed properties near the station are all FH.
u people really funny, so fortunate to get 1 unit at earlier stage, why bother LH or FH? Land is so scare here, LH will also be enbloc. Furthermore where to find next to mrt that is FH?

Be contended please!

Armstrong
16-02-11, 20:31
Landed properties near the station are all FH.

don't bother whether is FH or LH...... area like punggol already bid above $700psf, by then when it launch, it will definitely have to sell above $1200psf. If this happen, W28, NIN or 8@W, etc will not be at current range ($1060++psf), it may even hit $1500psf. :scared-3:

DC33_2008
17-02-11, 08:12
Why not? The question is When?
don't bother whether is FH or LH...... area like punggol already bid above $700psf, by then when it launch, it will definitely have to sell above $1200psf. If this happen, W28, NIN or 8@W, etc will not be at current range ($1060++psf), it may even hit $1500psf. :scared-3:

Armstrong
19-02-11, 20:38
Why not? The question is When?

saw from the nin page, NIN hit $1500psf, does that mean W28, 8@W, 1L will hit that soon? :scared-4:

spikey69
20-02-11, 17:47
just drove past...the big crane at the construction site has been dismantled. Looks like can TOP within next 4 mths!

Really hope u can find a unit Armstrong!

ecimbew
24-02-11, 13:38
saw from the nin page, NIN hit $1500psf, does that mean W28, 8@W, 1L will hit that soon? :scared-4:

Usually newer launches will command a premium because developers peg it to market sentiment and projected cost upon completion. It has a domino effect on surrounding properties too especially when they are still new or have yet TOP/CSC.

I have read your postings and I do suggest you consider older flats around the area. They are usually cheaper.

Armstrong
28-02-11, 21:57
Usually newer launches will command a premium because developers peg it to market sentiment and projected cost upon completion. It has a domino effect on surrounding properties too especially when they are still new or have yet TOP/CSC.

I have read your postings and I do suggest you consider older flats around the area. They are usually cheaper.

can't afford this area, be it new (above $1100) or old (thought the psf is lower but area is bigger, so in total still above my budget).

So i look for further area, I checked on the manhantan @ simei, but I am really shock by the price, for this place it can even ask for above $1200 psf, my goodness :doh: For a small 3 bedroom (1033 sqft), it cost around $1.2m to 1.3m, can u believe?

azeoprop
28-02-11, 22:09
You might want to consider Minton, Kovan Residences or H2O residences further up on the NE line. They should be within your budget. :beats-me-man:

Armstrong
28-02-11, 22:17
You might want to consider Minton, Kovan Residences or H2O residences further up on the NE line. They should be within your budget. :beats-me-man:

i have also visited showflat @ minton, the facilities are fantastic but too far from mrt. Kovan is not cheap either.

H20 is not cheap as well, unit area is so small (1000 - 1100) and cost around $9XXK, which is close to $1000psf. Based on the floor plan, bedroom 3 is so small that it can't really fit in a queen size bed.

Think better get resale HDB.

ginseng1
01-03-11, 19:14
I'm thinking of Leong Bee Court next to W@28.

FH, big and cheap excet that it's old though fairly well maintained

ginseng1
01-03-11, 19:15
i have also visited showflat @ minton, the facilities are fantastic but too far from mrt. Kovan is not cheap either.

H20 is not cheap as well, unit area is so small (1000 - 1100) and cost around $9XXK, which is close to $1000psf. Based on the floor plan, bedroom 3 is so small that it can't really fit in a queen size bed.

Think better get resale HDB.

You want cheap and good, consider NV residence at Pasir Ris. Brand new.

spikey69
01-03-11, 21:19
I'm thinking of Leong Bee Court next to W@28.

FH, big and cheap excet that it's old though fairly well maintained

any indication of en bloc for leong bee?

wkang1970
01-03-11, 21:47
can't afford this area, be it new (above $1100) or old (thought the psf is lower but area is bigger, so in total still above my budget).

So i look for further area, I checked on the manhantan @ simei, but I am really shock by the price, for this place it can even ask for above $1200 psf, my goodness :doh: For a small 3 bedroom (1033 sqft), it cost around $1.2m to 1.3m, can u believe?


Hmm..... in this case, condo owners in this area should hold on their units, $1400psf is anytime soon har...... :) does this also explain why not much sellers for this project?

Armstrong
08-03-11, 21:30
28 Woodsville Close #15-06
99 Yrs From 15/10/2007
$1065
1033
$1100k
13 Jan 11
28 Woodsville Close #17-07
99 Yrs From 15/10/2007
$1063
1195
$1270k
11 Jan 11
28 Woodsville Close #15-05
99 Yrs From 15/10/2007
$1013
829
$840k
06 Jan 11
Another transaction done on 13 Jan @ $1065psf, total only 3 transactions in Jan 11.

Armstrong
08-03-11, 21:35
Compare to 8@W (8@W (exclude) (excl. the small size) , Woodsville (similar size) price look slightly higher ......

Woodleigh Close #08-05
99 Yrs From 22/09/2008
$1025
1152
$1180k
31 Jan 11
2 Woodleigh Close #06-02
99 Yrs From 22/09/2008
$1000
1098
$1098k
19 Jan 11




28 Woodsville Close #15-06
99 Yrs From 15/10/2007
$1065
1033
$1100k
13 Jan 11
28 Woodsville Close #17-07
99 Yrs From 15/10/2007
$1063
1195
$1270k
11 Jan 11
28 Woodsville Close #15-05
99 Yrs From 15/10/2007
$1013
829
$840k
06 Jan 11
Another transaction done on 13 Jan @ $1065psf, total only 3 transactions in Jan 11.

spikey69
08-03-11, 22:25
Compare to 8@W (8@W (exclude) (excl. the small size) , Woodsville (similar size) price look slightly higher ......

Woodleigh Close #08-05
99 Yrs From 22/09/2008
$1025
1152
$1180k
31 Jan 11
2 Woodleigh Close #06-02
99 Yrs From 22/09/2008
$1000
1098
$1098k
19 Jan 11

there's usually a slight premium to be paid for yet to TOP devts and some would argue that the condos around PP MRT are nearer to amenities whereas there are so far none around Woodleigh MRT which will open soon (but that also means lots of vacant spaces around Woodleigh MRT which lots of upside potential for other devts).

sleek
30-03-11, 14:13
http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.com/Library/images/constructionprogress/FCH_construction_woodsville06.jpg (http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.com/contentview.aspx?article_id=12)

S/N Items Progress Status
1 Foundation Work Completed
2 Reinforced Concrete Framework Completed
3 Brick Walls Completed
4 Ceilings In Progress
5 Door and Window Frames In Progress
6 Car Parks, Roads and Drains In Progress
7 TOP issued Nil

spikey69
30-03-11, 20:32
Looks like TOP will be 3rd QTR!

Armstrong
30-03-11, 22:21
thought i saw from somewhere that leong bee court is enbloc.
If this is the case, good for Woodsville 28 and One Leicester and NIN residence har......

Armstrong
30-03-11, 22:23
look quite nice right.....


http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.com/Library/images/constructionprogress/FCH_construction_woodsville06.jpg (http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.com/contentview.aspx?article_id=12)

S/N Items Progress Status
1 Foundation Work Completed
2 Reinforced Concrete Framework Completed
3 Brick Walls Completed
4 Ceilings In Progress
5 Door and Window Frames In Progress
6 Car Parks, Roads and Drains In Progress
7 TOP issued Nil

wkang1970
31-03-11, 21:10
thought i saw from somewhere that leong bee court is enbloc.
If this is the case, good for Woodsville 28 and One Leicester and NIN residence har......

Yes u are right. Leong Bee is enbloc.... the new development is expected to fetch around S$1,400 psf to S$1,500 psf. And according to HSR the currently vacant land parcels surrounding Potong Pasir MRT Station is primed for future development such as a new mega mall or mixed commercial & residential developments. :)

You should have act fast.....

2824
01-04-11, 09:12
Yeah totally agree, a sizable mall would be great for the area. something like a greenwich V (or potong pasir v) would be good too. But realistically it might only happen if there is a change during the elections.



Yes u are right. Leong Bee is enbloc.... the new development is expected to fetch around S$1,400 psf to S$1,500 psf. And according to HSR the currently vacant land parcels surrounding Potong Pasir MRT Station is primed for future development such as a new mega mall or mixed commercial & residential developments. :)

You should have act fast.....

Cyberknight
04-04-11, 22:55
Have been following you guys. Just registered.

There will be competition for the mall location. Either it is at Potong Pasir MRT or Woodleigh MRT. Unlikely to have malls at 2 locations so close to each other. I put my bet at Potong Pasir if Sitoh wins the election. Go Sitoh go.

sleek
05-04-11, 00:18
URA MP2008 had also zoned a plot of land beside the Woodleigh MRT, between Aljunied and Bradell Road for commercial use. :D

ginseng1
05-04-11, 17:30
Seems like OCR now going for about $1200 PSF for LH and possibly $1500PSH for FH. That males some areas in D11 like Novena area look attractive. Soleil@Sinaran next to Novena MRT going for about $1500 PSF (LH) as compared to nin residence for $1200 PSF. Potong Pasir area lots of heartlanders. I might as well go for Novena area.

ginseng1
05-04-11, 17:31
If Leong Bee enbloc, that means that W@28 will have to bear with some construction noise for about 2 years plus. Was considering W@28 but will give it a miss now.

mcmlxxvi
05-04-11, 17:57
Yeah totally agree, a sizable mall would be great for the area. something like a greenwich V (or potong pasir v) would be good too. But realistically it might only happen if there is a change during the elections.

Potong Pasir V sounds such a mouthful.... PPV better lol.

devilplate
05-04-11, 18:19
If Leong Bee enbloc, that means that W@28 will have to bear with some construction noise for about 2 years plus. Was considering W@28 but will give it a miss now.

come and become part of 8wood family:D

spikey69
05-04-11, 19:04
If Leong Bee enbloc, that means that W@28 will have to bear with some construction noise for about 2 years plus. Was considering W@28 but will give it a miss now.

actually this would be the best time to buy for investment then

Cyberknight
05-04-11, 20:35
If Leong Bee enbloc, that means that W@28 will have to bear with some construction noise for about 2 years plus. Was considering W@28 but will give it a miss now.

That is expected right when u have an old condo beside it. I rather it enbloc together with woods vale mansion

spikey69
05-04-11, 20:59
Blk 26 just passed stage 5 on 24 Feb - doors/window frames in position, electrical wiring (w/o fittings), internal plastering and plumbing of the unit. Stage 7 is TOP!

ginseng1
06-04-11, 00:35
That is expected right when u have an old condo beside it. I rather it enbloc together with woods vale mansion

Woodsville Mansion FH. But no transactions done leh for a long time. Seems like it's a closely knit family living there.

I noticed that W28 has extended the back boundary. Illegal parking there is a constant problem. Lots of cars park by the side and restrict the 2 lanes to 1 lane. My ex neighbour who lives in Ol says that lots of complaints have been made but not attended to.

Recently, lots of parking warden. Dunno whether it's the effect of W28 connections or Sitoh now looking into it after many years of frustration faced by residents. Seems like only Senette given the promised upgrade and Woodsville area was skipped after the promise by the ruling party that whichever majority zone votes for it will get the upgrading.


I hope it's for the better as the cars defnitely cannot park there

ginseng1
06-04-11, 00:36
Woodsville Mansion FH. But no transactions done leh for a long time. Seems like it's a closely knit family living there.

I noticed that W28 has extended the back boundary. Illegal parking there is a constant problem. Lots of cars park by the side and restrict the 2 lanes to 1 lane. My ex neighbour who lives in Ol says that lots of complaints have been made but not attended to.

Recently, lots of parking warden. Dunno whether it's the effect of W28 connections or Sitoh now looking into it after many years of frustration faced by residents. Seems like only Senette given the promised upgrade and Woodsville area was skipped after the promise by the ruling party that whichever majority zone votes for it will get the upgrading.


I hope it's for the better as the cars defnitely cannot park there

ginseng1
06-04-11, 00:39
Average income of a couple should be around $5k each and that makes it $10k per couple. Foreign bank will easily extend $1.4m loan. So affordable to buy houses now. $1.6m for a flat is affordable to most couples earning $10k monthly.

2824
07-04-11, 11:12
Recently, lots of parking warden. Dunno whether it's the effect of W28 connections or Sitoh now looking into it after many years of frustration faced by residents. Seems like only Senette given the promised upgrade and Woodsville area was skipped after the promise by the ruling party that whichever majority zone votes for it will get the upgrading.



Yeah recently lots of parking wardens, maybe they got a new schedule in April. The place screaming out for a new town centre....

land118
07-04-11, 11:36
Woodsville Mansion FH. But no transactions done leh for a long time. Seems like it's a closely knit family living there.

I noticed that W28 has extended the back boundary. Illegal parking there is a constant problem. Lots of cars park by the side and restrict the 2 lanes to 1 lane. My ex neighbour who lives in Ol says that lots of complaints have been made but not attended to.

Recently, lots of parking warden. Dunno whether it's the effect of W28 connections or Sitoh now looking into it after many years of frustration faced by residents. Seems like only Senette given the promised upgrade and Woodsville area was skipped after the promise by the ruling party that whichever majority zone votes for it will get the upgrading.


I hope it's for the better as the cars defnitely cannot park there

Sennette 's PAP baby, Woodsville side....not under their care..., PM already openly admit in the case of Hougang, so residents better know what to do in coming GE ...


http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singa...31901-526.html (http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singaporescene/pm-lee-don-t-upgrading-pay-less-tax-20110405-231901-526.html)

http://forums.delphiforums.com/3in1k...es?msg=47252.1 (http://forums.delphiforums.com/3in1kopitiam/messages?msg=47252.1)

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh....php?t=3177199 (http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=3177199)


Huge uproar over PM Lee's comments
UPDATE

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=lee+hsien+loong&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2-ytff-tyc)'s open admission that PAP wards are favoured for HDB upgrading exercises has touched a raw nerve among netizens.

His admission came as a reply to a university student living in the Hougang Single-Member Constituency (SMC) (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Single-member+constituency&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35) ward who asked if he could pay less tax since the opposition-held ward does not enjoy upgrading programmes.

Brownz
07-04-11, 15:29
Passed by the site just now , they have removed most of the scaffolding.
The building is mostly in white paint and cream coloured paint.

spikey69
07-04-11, 17:14
Passed by the site just now , they have removed most of the scaffolding.
The building is mostly in white paint and cream coloured paint.

thanks for the update - i can't wait until TOP!

Cyberknight
07-04-11, 22:54
thanks for the update - i can't wait until TOP!

Harlo neighbour. I can't wait too .... Provided u r not renting it out.

devilplate
07-04-11, 22:58
Harlo neighbour. I can't wait too .... Provided u r not renting it out.

not sure how's the traffic noise ...i aso cant wait for it to TOP to experience the noise....hopefully shd be bearable

Brownz
07-04-11, 23:36
Make a guess when will it TOP ?
My guess is JULY :)

devilplate
07-04-11, 23:41
Make a guess when will it TOP ?
My guess is JULY :)

prolly end of yr

spikey69
08-04-11, 06:48
they only have minor stuff to complete before TOP. Likely to be by Sep.

I am definitely going to rent out.

Komo
08-04-11, 07:07
they only have minor stuff to complete before TOP. Likely to be by Sep.

I am definitely going to rent out.
What is a good rental to start with? $3k per month, unfurnished?

DC33_2008
08-04-11, 09:50
There is a bus-stop in front of this development. Noise from the starting and stopping of the buses can be quite bad besides the noise from the other form of traffic. There is an article in the ST today entitiled; "Car pollution can damage brain".
not sure how's the traffic noise ...i aso cant wait for it to TOP to experience the noise....hopefully shd be bearable

spikey69
08-04-11, 17:49
What is a good rental to start with? $3k per month, unfurnished?

depends on what size is your unit...go to prop guru and do a estimate. My guess would be $3.3 psf to 3.4 psf.

mcmlxxvi
08-04-11, 18:37
Sennette 's PAP baby, Woodsville side....not under their care..., PM already openly admit in the case of Hougang, so residents better know what to do in coming GE ...


http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singa...31901-526.html (http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singaporescene/pm-lee-don-t-upgrading-pay-less-tax-20110405-231901-526.html)

http://forums.delphiforums.com/3in1k...es?msg=47252.1 (http://forums.delphiforums.com/3in1kopitiam/messages?msg=47252.1)

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh....php?t=3177199 (http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=3177199)


Huge uproar over PM Lee's comments
UPDATE

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=lee+hsien+loong&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2-ytff-tyc)'s open admission that PAP wards are favoured for HDB upgrading exercises has touched a raw nerve among netizens.

His admission came as a reply to a university student living in the Hougang Single-Member Constituency (SMC) (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Single-member+constituency&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35) ward who asked if he could pay less tax since the opposition-held ward does not enjoy upgrading programmes.
He is just clarifying the obvious. Anyone who stays in opposition ward and not blind can tell...

Lovelle
08-04-11, 19:22
not sure how's the traffic noise ...i aso cant wait for it to TOP to experience the noise....hopefully shd be bearable

yo , u also have this one ?

wkang1970
08-04-11, 22:25
thanks for the update - i can't wait until TOP!

me too, can't wait until TOP :)

Cyberknight
10-04-11, 11:07
Just passed by yesterday.
Painting started on both blocks.
Drainage RC works completed.
Perimeter walls near the entrance undergoing brick laying.

southpark2000
10-04-11, 11:57
me too, can't wait until TOP :)

x2!!!:cheers4:

sleek
16-04-11, 15:57
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1830/4fbfe95fcd89569b456fd1f.jpg

spikey69
17-04-11, 07:35
nice pic! Thanks for the update. We can just see the top two units on the left of the pic, which belong to the devt next door that has just en-bloc-ed

spikey69
17-04-11, 16:46
got the letter - expected TOP 3Q 2011

spikey69
25-04-11, 16:25
just visited the site over the weekend. It appears that all that is left is the fencing and the landscaping. Painting appears to be done or near complete. Looks like TOP within 3 mths at most.

jezz
25-04-11, 19:09
got the letter - expected TOP 3Q 2011

Interesting as normally dev issued letter like 2 weeks before top. This dev can issue pre notice letter and tell buyers in adv leh

jezz
25-04-11, 19:11
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1830/4fbfe95fcd89569b456fd1f.jpg

Looks like kovan melody design

wkang1970
05-05-11, 08:43
got the letter - expected TOP 3Q 2011

:) me too, received the letter, TOP is 3Q 2011.

DC33_2008
05-05-11, 10:29
Good news! Congratulation!
:) me too, received the letter, TOP is 3Q 2011.

spikey69
05-05-11, 20:13
looking at latest status of construction, it should be early 3Q.

wkang1970
06-05-11, 15:06
looking at latest status of construction, it should be early 3Q.

Hi spikey69, your is 3+S right? Just received a sms, asked by agent whether keen to rent out, a 3 rm can fetch to $4500 per mth, and 3+S can fetch around $5500 per mth, not bad har?

Remembered that you mentioned you will be renting out, good for u :)

spikey69
06-05-11, 16:31
Hi spikey69, your is 3+S right? Just received a sms, asked by agent whether keen to rent out, a 3 rm can fetch to $4500 per mth, and 3+S can fetch around $5500 per mth, not bad har?

Remembered that you mentioned you will be renting out, good for u :)

wow~! Look forward to TOP then! U have the contact of the agent? PM me?

southpark2000
07-05-11, 17:58
wow~! Look forward to TOP then! U have the contact of the agent? PM me?

x2!!!! I am thinking of renting it out as well..... :ashamed1:

spikey69
07-05-11, 23:06
Yay....go Sitoh go! Looks like he is set to win! W28 huat ah!

kingkong1984
07-05-11, 23:53
Not surprising if at all.

spikey69
08-05-11, 00:17
Best news for me for the weekend - TOP + no more opposition in PP. Chiong ah!

spikey69
08-05-11, 02:51
HUAT AH! Sitoh wins. Good job! *pat on your back for preserverance*

Cyberknight
08-05-11, 03:02
Huat ar. Sitoh go go go.

DC33_2008
08-05-11, 09:57
Good luck to all of you.
Huat ar. Sitoh go go go.

land118
08-05-11, 10:31
woodleigh MRT next month right, now PAP Sitoh will be there to cut ribbon, wow so many positive news..Huat ah!

devilplate
08-05-11, 10:33
woodleigh MRT next month right, now PAP Sitoh will be there to cut ribbon, wow so many positive news..Huat ah!
Sorry lor, this is not 8woodleigh :p

wkang1970
08-05-11, 19:21
wow~! Look forward to TOP then! U have the contact of the agent? PM me?

Hi spikey69, PM u liao.
Sorry see wrongly, for 3+S, rental can fetch up is 5k. :)

spikey69
08-05-11, 20:57
Hi spikey69, PM u liao.
Sorry see wrongly, for 3+S, rental can fetch up is 5k. :)

Thanks for the contact! Much appreciated. Hopefully Sitoh can launch his blueprint asap. With woodleigh mrt opening, the whole place will have a new buzz.

paddlepopps
12-05-11, 10:49
Hi, bought a unit here not too long ago off floorplans.
Wondering if it was in the developer's models to have the brown stripes on the building?
Looks a little different than on the brochure ...don't quite like it leh...

spikey69
12-05-11, 16:25
Hi, bought a unit here not too long ago off floorplans.
Wondering if it was in the developer's models to have the brown stripes on the building?
Looks a little different than on the brochure ...don't quite like it leh...

welcome...which sized unit did u get? Any news on TOP, other than 3Q?

jezz
12-05-11, 17:46
Hi, bought a unit here not too long ago off floorplans.
Wondering if it was in the developer's models to have the brown stripes on the building?
Looks a little different than on the brochure ...don't quite like it leh...
I know how you feel. I wldnt like it too. Prefer sthg simple and clean look

southpark2000
12-05-11, 20:57
Thanks for the contact! Much appreciated. Hopefully Sitoh can launch his blueprint asap. With woodleigh mrt opening, the whole place will have a new buzz.

Hi - may I have the contact as well.....thks

southpark2000
12-05-11, 20:59
I know how you feel. I wldnt like it too. Prefer sthg simple and clean look

Same here....dun recall the model being of that color as well. Sadly, I did not snap a pic of it at the showroom.

jezz
12-05-11, 23:07
Same here....dun recall the model being of that color as well. Sadly, I did not snap a pic of it at the showroom.

sometimes the more colors the dev add, it makes the entire proj looks cheapscape

white is the most safest color...too many color stripes esp brown look like a muslim community :doh:

southpark2000
13-05-11, 18:40
sometimes the more colors the dev add, it makes the entire proj looks cheapscape

white is the most safest color...too many color stripes esp brown look like a muslim community :doh:

Not as bad as you make it out to be lah. Guess it's a cheap way to make the development stand out without installing expensive façade.

spikey69
13-05-11, 21:12
sometimes the more colors the dev add, it makes the entire proj looks cheapscape

white is the most safest color...too many color stripes esp brown look like a muslim community :doh:

I think it's ok - Frasers Centrepoint has a really good track record. Looking forward to TOP!

paddlepopps
14-05-11, 22:05
welcome...which sized unit did u get? Any news on TOP, other than 3Q?

Got a 2 bedroom unit. Yah only heard it's 3Q...

I don't mind the stripes on the car park/swimming pool deck that much...but i really don't like the brown accents in between the floors. Makes it look rather old-fashioned.

Wonder if they will repaint if enough people complain to them about it?

spikey69
15-05-11, 07:13
Got a 2 bedroom unit. Yah only heard it's 3Q...

I don't mind the stripes on the car park/swimming pool deck that much...but i really don't like the brown accents in between the floors. Makes it look rather old-fashioned.

Wonder if they will repaint if enough people complain to them about it?

Did u get for your own stay or rental?

Actually, i dun mind the stripes as long as it brings in the yield! :)

wkang1970
15-05-11, 17:13
Did u get for your own stay or rental?

Actually, i dun mind the stripes as long as it brings in the yield! :)

Actually i bought for own stay, but after a few agents told me of the rental of this place, now i am thinking of renting out.

spikey69
15-05-11, 17:27
Actually i bought for own stay, but after a few agents told me of the rental of this place, now i am thinking of renting out.

a few agents? send them my number! :cool:

i would agree that the rental yield appears to be attractive...but let's see whether it can translate to actual tenants.

DC33_2008
15-05-11, 21:24
What is the rental rate at this place: $psf?
Actually i bought for own stay, but after a few agents told me of the rental of this place, now i am thinking of renting out.

spikey69
17-05-11, 14:15
What is the rental rate at this place: $psf?

i think we should expect at least $3.20 psf and above

DC33_2008
17-05-11, 14:26
URA rental for Q3 of 2010 was $2.97(25 percentile) $3.00 (median) $3.20 (75 pecentile) in one leicester with full condo facilities. Should be around there.
i think we should expect at least $3.20 psf and above

spikey69
18-05-11, 07:47
URA rental for Q3 of 2010 was $2.97(25 percentile) $3.00 (median) $3.20 (75 pecentile) in one leicester with full condo facilities. Should be around there.

haha - read the same data. Considering that W28 is new and nearer the MRT, $3.20 psf should be easy. But of course, the potential tenant is also impt.

DC33_2008
18-05-11, 08:45
You may get nasty tenants who will complaint of traffic noise and ask for lower rent as compared to one leicester pool facing @ $3.20psf.
haha - read the same data. Considering that W28 is new and nearer the MRT, $3.20 psf should be easy. But of course, the potential tenant is also impt.

devilplate
18-05-11, 09:36
You may get nasty tenants who will complaint of traffic noise and ask for lower rent as compared to one leicester pool facing @ $3.20psf.

den ask them to rent elsewhr:D

gd way to see ur tenant's character:D

DC33_2008
18-05-11, 11:06
Depends who needs who more.
den ask them to rent elsewhr:D

gd way to see ur tenant's character:D

devilplate
18-05-11, 11:13
Depends who needs who more.

some say pool facing got kids...vy noisy too....seeing opposite neighbours...no privacy

woodsville28 traffic noise but unblocked view for high flrs....

both can la....being new got advantage for the first 2-3yrs....w28, 3.5psf shd be achievable....:D

DC33_2008
18-05-11, 13:45
Besides noise fm traffic, a busstop is right infront of condo.
some say pool facing got kids...vy noisy too....seeing opposite neighbours...no privacy

woodsville28 traffic noise but unblocked view for high flrs....

both can la....being new got advantage for the first 2-3yrs....w28, 3.5psf shd be achievable....:D

wkang1970
19-05-11, 12:55
Besides noise fm traffic, a busstop is right infront of condo.

thot someone mentioned here before, this bus stop will ultimately shift away or combine with the bus stop in front of the mrt station.

Armstrong
30-05-11, 23:01
some say pool facing got kids...vy noisy too....seeing opposite neighbours...no privacy

woodsville28 traffic noise but unblocked view for high flrs....

both can la....being new got advantage for the first 2-3yrs....w28, 3.5psf shd be achievable....:D

Achievable? Analyst is saying that property price will unfold soon.... :scared-4:

better to sell than rent..... lower your price, i buy from you :)

devilplate
30-05-11, 23:04
Achievable? Analyst is saying that property price will unfold soon.... :scared-4:

better to sell than rent..... lower your price, i buy from you :)
Dun sound so sour la....wait till 2013... Got chance

Feeling frustrated? Recent tx 10xxpsf for high flr.....now low flr asking 11xxpsf...lol:p

8woodleigh all asking 1200psf....haha....vy unrealistic....i like it:p

One leicester asking 1300psf...wowowow

spikey69
04-06-11, 16:52
just went down to look see at the site....talked to one of the contractors there. He mentioned that they had to clear all their stuff away by next week...no wonder they're rushing and working on a Sat afternoon!

TOP very soon!

Armstrong
04-06-11, 17:26
Dun sound so sour la....wait till 2013... Got chance

Feeling frustrated? Recent tx 10xxpsf for high flr.....now low flr asking 11xxpsf...lol:p

8woodleigh all asking 1200psf....haha....vy unrealistic....i like it:p

One leicester asking 1300psf...wowowow


all asking but no done deal...... look like no one will commit at this range....

ysyap
04-06-11, 23:42
all asking but no done deal...... look like no one will commit at this range....Just a matter of who will give in first! I suspect if govt don't stop developers, it's still their playing field so sellers can still ask high and buyers will just guai guai succumb! :doh: So is it seller's market or buyer's market now?

Armstrong
05-06-11, 21:40
Just a matter of who will give in first! I suspect if govt don't stop developers, it's still their playing field so sellers can still ask high and buyers will just guai guai succumb! :doh: So is it seller's market or buyer's market now?


soon will be buyer market :tongue3:

wkang1970
06-06-11, 16:31
just went down to look see at the site....talked to one of the contractors there. He mentioned that they had to clear all their stuff away by next week...no wonder they're rushing and working on a Sat afternoon!

TOP very soon!

Great.... can't wait for the TOP... :)

spikey69
06-06-11, 18:22
Great.... can't wait for the TOP... :)

i think the agent you recommended has already updated his picture library.

Armstrong
13-06-11, 22:19
my agent telling me not much people here (Woodsville 28) selling at realistic price, all asked $1200 psf above.... :doh:

Price going to fall....... dont wait for too long.....

sleek
13-06-11, 22:49
Nin Residences median $1,310psf effects! ;)


my agent telling me not much people here (Woodsville 28) selling at realistic price, all asked $1200 psf above.... :doh:

Price going to fall....... dont wait for too long.....

wkang1970
13-06-11, 23:23
Nin Residences median $1,310psf effects! ;)

Yes, no $1300 psf and above no sell......

Armstrong
19-06-11, 17:41
Yes, no $1300 psf and above no sell......


owners of W28, W28 or 8@W are real cheap now compare to the DBSS @ tampines.

wkang, yes agree, even selling @ $1300 psf is still reasonable... too bad i did not buy earlier.:( If hdb at tampines can sell $880,000, pte condos at city fringe selling at $1500 psf is a matter of time.

wkang1970
20-06-11, 15:12
owners of W28, W28 or 8@W are real cheap now compare to the DBSS @ tampines.

wkang, yes agree, even selling @ $1300 psf is still reasonable... too bad i did not buy earlier.:( If hdb at tampines can sell $880,000, pte condos at city fringe selling at $1500 psf is a matter of time.

i not that greedy, with Centrale 8 @ Tampines selling at this type of price, if i can sell my unit at $1300psf, i better sell immediately. I will not wait for $1500psf. The snow ball is getting bigger. :doh:

wkang1970
20-06-11, 15:15
The price that i paid for W28 is quite close to Centrale 8's selling price 2 yrs ago, and in fact my unit is bigger than Centrale 8. Can't believe it. :scared-4:

DC33_2008
20-06-11, 15:46
Concept Plan 2011 may release news of projects in this area.
The price that i paid for W28 is quite close to Centrale 8's selling price 2 yrs ago, and in fact my unit is bigger than Centrale 8. Can't believe it. :scared-4:

wkang1970
20-06-11, 15:58
Concept Plan 2011 may release news of projects in this area.

Any idea what plan? Building a retail mall behind mrt station?

DC33_2008
20-06-11, 16:22
Understand that the place behind woodleigh can make way ofr more than 10,000 households of private and public housings with amenities.
Any idea what plan? Building a retail mall behind mrt station?

sleek
20-06-11, 16:49
$1M DBSS flats! :D


Understand that the place behind woodleigh can make way ofr more than 10,000 households of private and public housings with amenities.

5577
20-06-11, 17:04
$1M DBSS flats! :D

If like that, 8@W (8@W) and Blossom owners really huat huat huat ah!!!!!!

sleek
27-06-11, 00:02
http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.com/Library/images/constructionprogress/FCH_construction_woodsville07.jpg

Progress On Site For Woodsville 28 As Of End May 2011 (http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.com/contentview.aspx?article_id=12)
S/N Items Progress Status
1 Foundation Work Completed
2 Reinforced Concrete Framework Completed
3 Brick Walls Completed
4 Ceilings Completed
5 Door and Window Frames Completed
6 Car Parks, Roads and Drains In Progress
7 TOP issued Nil

southpark2000
28-06-11, 21:19
:D - It's coming

wkang1970
28-06-11, 22:16
:D - It's coming

hey southpark2000, how did u manage to get the pic? can go in? which level u taking?

Cyberknight
29-06-11, 08:31
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/3205524/for-sale-woodsville-28#

Check out the swimming pool, function room photos etc fr this agent.

spikey69
29-06-11, 14:26
went to call them...apparently the TOP application has not been submitted yet...:beats-me-man:

southpark2000
29-06-11, 20:10
hey southpark2000, how did u manage to get the pic? can go in? which level u taking?
Managed to slip in on the 6th.....either puff up chest and appear to be contractor or go ninja mode

BONUS..... :D

southpark2000
29-06-11, 20:45
went to call them...apparently the TOP application has not been submitted yet...:beats-me-man:

Still got some repairs here and there - stickers ard to indicate "problem" spots.....

wkang1970
29-06-11, 21:05
Managed to slip in on the 6th.....either puff up chest and appear to be contractor or go ninja mode

BONUS..... :D

What is the thing that mount on the wall? is it controller for water heater or aircon?

I will also try to sneak in to take some pics :)

sleek
29-06-11, 23:06
CityGas logo on it so should be Water Heater.


What is the thing that mount on the wall? is it controller for water heater or aircon?

I will also try to sneak in to take some pics :)

southpark2000
30-06-11, 08:14
CityGas logo on it so should be Water Heater.
Yup..... it's a water heater control panel.

And yes, I can confirm that next-gen fibre-optic is installed to the distribution box! Of course, all concealed; no exposed trunking ;)

Armstrong
03-07-11, 17:02
went to call them...apparently the TOP application has not been submitted yet...:beats-me-man:

not even TOP yet, but there already so many people quoting to sell above $1200psf! So TOP, what will be the price?

devilplate
03-07-11, 18:20
not even TOP yet, but there already so many people quoting to sell above $1200psf! So TOP, what will be the price?
Kovan residence oredi calling 1200psf...so wat px u expect?

Armstrong
03-07-11, 19:52
Kovan residence oredi calling 1200psf...so wat px u expect?

does that mean woodsville 28 can call for above $1300/ $1400 since kovan residence already called for $1200psf?

spikey69
03-07-11, 21:01
depends...last benchmark was in Jan 11 - $1065 psf. Some buyer needs to make another benchmark before it hits $1200 psf.

wkang1970
04-07-11, 23:02
What is the thing that mount on the wall? is it controller for water heater or aircon?

I will also try to sneak in to take some pics :)


Hi Southpark2000, here it comes.... 2 pics to share

2437 2436

spikey69
05-07-11, 07:32
all of you secret squirrel sneak into W28? Did u all manage to get into your units?

matadorepy
05-07-11, 10:04
all of you secret squirrel sneak into W28? Did u all manage to get into your units?

Juz a kaypo neighbour across the Leicester street, Is it true that there is no guardhouse for W28 (with 110 units). No security services ??? Wow, can save substantially on monthly maintenance fees.

southpark2000
05-07-11, 19:29
Hi Southpark2000, here it comes.... 2 pics to share

2437 2436

Wow!!! That's pretty.....thanks

southpark2000
05-07-11, 19:45
Juz a kaypo neighbour across the Leicester street, Is it true that there is no guardhouse for W28 (with 110 units). No security services ??? Wow, can save substantially on monthly maintenance fees.

Welcome neighbour!!!

Hope that helps? :D

[Afternote]
- Saw numerous CCTVs all round....(but did not take photo) so no worries about security lah
- Look carefully and you will see a CCTV (round ball) at lobby in first pic
- I think stairwell also have; can't recall clearly now

- See #17 in pic 2

Cyberknight
05-07-11, 20:33
Today URA website shows a W28 transaction done at 1200psf 829sqf $995k stack 5 either #16 or #17.:)

Armstrong
05-07-11, 21:35
Welcome neighbour!!!

Hope that helps? :D

[Afternote]
- Saw numerous CCTVs all round....(but did not take photo) so no worries about security lah
- Look carefully and you will see a CCTV (round ball) at lobby in first pic
- I think stairwell also have; can't recall clearly now

- See #17 in pic 2

Agree.
My previous condo that i stay, with no of security guards still can allow outsiders enter the condo without checking. :doh: Even my relative driving in (just mentioned my unit number), they can allow them to come in without informing me. :hell-hath-no-fury:

Armstrong
07-07-11, 21:46
Today URA website shows a W28 transaction done at 1200psf 829sqf $995k stack 5 either #16 or #17.:)

no wonder saw number of seller are quoting above $1200psf now @ propertyguru. Look like when it come to TOP, may hit $1300psf.

wkang1970
12-07-11, 15:47
no wonder saw number of seller are quoting above $1200psf now @ propertyguru. Look like when it come to TOP, may hit $1300psf.

Why not? There are already people quoting to sell at $1300psf. :)

spikey69
12-07-11, 20:22
Today URA website shows a W28 transaction done at 1200psf 829sqf $995k stack 5 either #16 or #17.:)

Just found out that it was #17-05...highest unit

ginseng1
14-07-11, 11:35
Leong Bee Court residents will have to vacate by January 2012. So demolition works will begin after that and the new developer, PT Sertia, will start construction works next to W28. Wondering whether the noise will be berable? Thinking of getting a unit at W28. Or should I wait for PT Sertia to launch the FH units instead?

ginseng1
14-07-11, 11:37
Plot ratio for Leong Bee is 3.5 so that means it can build really high and overlook W28. But it also means construction will take a long time. I like W28 but dunno whether I can put up with the noise and dust. The swimming pool is going to be very dusty and the foreign workers will be ogling at the ladies:scared-4:

alamak
14-07-11, 12:34
Plot ratio for Leong Bee is 3.5 so that means it can build really high and overlook W28. But it also means construction will take a long time. I like W28 but dunno whether I can put up with the noise and dust. The swimming pool is going to be very dusty and the foreign workers will be ogling at the ladies:scared-4:

I suspect PT Sertia will really build a reasonably good class FH 24 storey apartment here. I suspect the psf should exceed 1350 psf. Next door FH neighbour One Leicester with full condo facilities should be elevated to next selling level i.e 1400 psf. :)

Cyberknight
14-07-11, 12:45
Wonder if Leong Bee Court has building height limit of 64m AMSL? Cos W28, nin residences, one Leicester etc all have it.

DC33_2008
14-07-11, 12:46
Bad news for owners of W28 who wants to let out their place.
Plot ratio for Leong Bee is 3.5 so that means it can build really high and overlook W28. But it also means construction will take a long time. I like W28 but dunno whether I can put up with the noise and dust. The swimming pool is going to be very dusty and the foreign workers will be ogling at the ladies:scared-4:

spikey69
14-07-11, 19:31
interesting updates...now it depends on whether W28 investors can tahan waiting for PT Sertia to complete their condo to capitalise...

i am sure that the W28 units can be leased out...but it may not be at a premium if construction works start...

ginseng1
14-07-11, 22:35
I pity Woodsville Mansion. Developer owns 4 out of 16 units and they have no intention to sell and are holding out for a good price. They can wait lah...

Have to tahan so much changes from OL, Woodsville interchange and now by PT Sertia. Too greedy. I believe Leong Bee would have approached WM to combine and build a condo.

Laguna and Tulip owners also too greedy. Good that the enbloc didn't go through. Avon Park owners now asking for 1200PSF. Good luck to those selling. With these kind of prices, I rather top up and get Novena area (D11)

ecimbew
14-07-11, 23:57
Leong Bee Court was sold to SP Setia for $65million.
http://propertylaunch.sg/propertynews/sp-setia-buys-leong-bee-court-for-65m/

Armstrong
16-07-11, 22:49
Leong Bee Court residents will have to vacate by January 2012. So demolition works will begin after that and the new developer, PT Sertia, will start construction works next to W28. Wondering whether the noise will be berable? Thinking of getting a unit at W28. Or should I wait for PT Sertia to launch the FH units instead?

In SG, this is unavoidable, there are so many condos were enbloc. Anyway SG is so small, is like a construction site, everywhere is constructing.... not only leong bee which is next to W28. So no big deal lah..... :) I also like woodsville 28 and want to buy but can't afford this pricing liao.... If u need to buy W28 and can afford it, then go ahead.

DC33_2008
17-07-11, 11:09
New rules on Construction Activity on weekends are coming. This will ease the frustration of residents in houses next to construction sites.
In SG, this is unavoidable, there are so many condos were enbloc. Anyway SG is so small, is like a construction site, everywhere is constructing.... not only leong bee which is next to W28. So no big deal lah..... :) I also like woodsville 28 and want to buy but can't afford this pricing liao.... If u need to buy W28 and can afford it, then go ahead.

kingkong1984
17-07-11, 15:28
LH and FH side by side...

the only way is to go for FH provided it is fairly priced.

ginseng1
17-07-11, 17:10
Leong Bee Court was sold to SP Setia for $65million.
http://propertylaunch.sg/propertynews/sp-setia-buys-leong-bee-court-for-65m/

I read in the article that PT Sertia intends to build a commercial cum residential project. Can meh? It'll be nice to have a cafe at existing Leong Bee and I can go there for my meals. I just hope thatt the rubbish chute is not built next to 28. So many units = alot of rubbish = foul smell.

W28 now asking for $1100psf average. Same as OL which is FH but older. How? Which one to get? I can't wait for economy to burst. Then I'll go in and whack. Hopefully now with the IRs, more people will go bankrupt and more fire sales will happen.

Right now Woodsville CLose really messy. Ever since W28 is built, the roll of house cannot park illegally on W28 side and their cars are crammed on their side. Include pedestrians walking, really a danger zone. Wonder why the TP and LTA are not doing anything to improve the situation. Seems like this private estate is not on the Estate's MP priority after giving him the votes.

ginseng1
17-07-11, 17:14
That day I dropby W28 to look see. Saw a few people around the building who like me also tried to get inside. Must be the eager owners. Looks like HDB upgraders.

Armstrong
17-07-11, 21:45
I read an investment analysis on PT Sertia, it mentioned that PT have enbloc this leong bee at potong pasir, and potong pasir has great potential, especially the plot of land behind the mrt station was earmarked for commerical cum residential project under the masterplan. Look like giving another 3 - 5 years, this place will be very different.



I read in the article that PT Sertia intends to build a commercial cum residential project. Can meh? It'll be nice to have a cafe at existing Leong Bee and I can go there for my meals. I just hope thatt the rubbish chute is not built next to 28. So many units = alot of rubbish = foul smell.

W28 now asking for $1100psf average. Same as OL which is FH but older. How? Which one to get? I can't wait for economy to burst. Then I'll go in and whack. Hopefully now with the IRs, more people will go bankrupt and more fire sales will happen.

Right now Woodsville CLose really messy. Ever since W28 is built, the roll of house cannot park illegally on W28 side and their cars are crammed on their side. Include pedestrians walking, really a danger zone. Wonder why the TP and LTA are not doing anything to improve the situation. Seems like this private estate is not on the Estate's MP priority after giving him the votes.

ecimbew
19-07-11, 22:51
It is almost done! What a nice looking building!

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd458/ecimbew/woodsville28.jpg

Armstrong
20-07-11, 20:54
yes, is indeed very nice.


It is almost done! What a nice looking building!

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd458/ecimbew/woodsville28.jpg

DC33_2008
20-07-11, 20:57
When can collect key?
yes, is indeed very nice.

Cyberknight
20-07-11, 23:06
When can collect key?

Call fraser . Assuming the roof structures at e driveway is completed this week. At least 5-6 weeks....

ysyap
20-07-11, 23:09
Call fraser . Assuming the roof structures at e driveway is completed this week. At least 5-6 weeks....The basement carparks must also be ready which we can't see from outside!

azeoprop
20-07-11, 23:39
...and to think that in early 09, it was selling around 780psf. :(

ecimbew
21-07-11, 00:03
If they are to build anything on the plot of land between HDB shops and MRT station, it will be commercial and residential according to ura master plan 2008.

ginseng1
21-07-11, 16:32
If they are to build anything on the plot of land between HDB shops and MRT station, it will be commercial and residential according to ura master plan 2008.

I can hear the soothing sounds of the water at the swimming pool yesterday night when I walked around. Lane painting are done. I'm sure the land next to MRT will be developed. So prime. Another condo? Hope not else everywhere construction.

When it was launched in 09, developer couldnt sell and had to lower price. I hope enough parking lots. hose with 2 cars how ah? Got lots or not?

ginseng1
21-07-11, 16:35
Anyone sneaked into Leong Bee so far?

I went to ninth floor yesterday night at Leong Bee and looked at W28. Really nice.

I also saw this #09-02 unit at LB. Very well done. Pity the owner who had spent a bomb renovating their unit but I'm sure they are now laughing to the bank.

wkang1970
21-07-11, 19:13
If they are to build anything on the plot of land between HDB shops and MRT station, it will be commercial and residential according to ura master plan 2008.

I also hope there will build a commercial and residential building, but when will this happen? This has been in the master plan for so many years....

Will it happen?

ginseng1
21-07-11, 19:46
I also hope there will build a commercial and residential building, but when will this happen? This has been in the master plan for so many years....

Will it happen?

How to have commercial and residential building?

Compass Point?

Land too small. Might as well make it condo like Kovan Residence.

alamak
21-07-11, 21:20
How to have commercial and residential building?

Compass Point?

Land too small. Might as well make it condo like Kovan Residence.

Small ? sure a not. That plot of land is quite big hor ..if you imagine it is cut half by the P P walkway. Can be a mixed development with shopping mall and office space, may be some residential hor

Armstrong
21-07-11, 22:30
Small ? sure a not. That plot of land is quite big hor ..if you imagine it is cut half by the P P walkway. Can be a mixed development with shopping mall and office space, may be some residential hor

alamak is right, that is not small. Anyway it is already in the ura master plan. In the past, this will not happen, but now, it is possible ok. Who know it may be pretty soon? :)

wkang1970
23-07-11, 19:58
here another pic

wkang1970
24-07-11, 13:39
...........

DC33_2008
24-07-11, 16:25
Is the bus-stop still there?
...........

sleek
27-07-11, 22:39
Woodsville junction flyover to open on July 31 (http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1143334/1/.html)
Posted: 27 July 2011 1523 hrs

SINGAPORE: The new flyover spanning the Woodsville junction will open to traffic on Sunday at 10am.

The Land Transport Authority (LTA) said the 400 metre flyover will connect motorists directly from Jalan Toa Payoh to Jalan Kolam Ayer leading to Kallang Way and the Pan-Island Expressway towards Changi, bypassing the Woodsville junction below.

The new flyover is part of the upgrading project for the Woodsville Interchange to improve overall traffic flow at the busy interchange.

Besides the flyover, the LTA is also constructing three vehicular tunnels to improve the overall traffic flow at this junction.

Works to upgrade the Woodsville Interchange started in 2007 and are expected to complete by the end of the year.

- AFP/fa

ginseng1
28-07-11, 01:22
Is the bus-stop still there?

Yup.

A redundant bus stop.