View Full Version : The Aristo @ Amber (D15, FH)
devilplate
11-10-11, 22:19
you stay in tanjong rhu?
Dakota res....he sitting on some 250-300psf gain liao:cheers6:
Nope. Dakota is facing Sands but is not facing east. It depends on the orientation of the block.
This is taken from my balcony.
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263480_2032315920919_1034760807_32324057_6355020_n.jpg
Looks like a unit at The Riverine or at Dakota. I almost wanna invest in Riverine but I hate being too close to Geylang area and the notorious Kallang park where foreigners gang fights are plentiful. So i dropped the idea and end up investing in Orchard area instead few years back.
when the weather in singapore was less erratic, we probably had 65% of the time as sunny. but due to the erratic patterns, it's probably 50% of the time nowadays. you get heavy torrential rain in the middle of the year. almost as if the typhoon season up north has affected our weather patterns here.
Yes i agree with you. I already start missing the sun now cause the past few days have been gloomy and rainy. Since when we have 65% hot weather. I felt like its 50:50 now.
devilplate
13-10-11, 09:40
Yes i agree with you. I already start missing the sun now cause the past few days have been gloomy and rainy. Since when we have 65% hot weather. I felt like its 50:50 now.
feb-aug: alot more sunny days
devilplate
13-10-11, 09:43
Looks like a unit at The Riverine or at Dakota. I almost wanna invest in Riverine but I hate being too close to Geylang area and the notorious Kallang park where foreigners gang fights are plentiful. So i dropped the idea and end up investing in Orchard area instead few years back.
riverine is simply way way overpriced during launch and the view is just temp
Yes i agree with you. I already start missing the sun now cause the past few days have been gloomy and rainy. Since when we have 65% hot weather. I felt like its 50:50 now.
50-50? u must be joking! most of our days are hot,humid n sunny..
are u saying in a month on average we get 15 days dry n 15 wet days? :doh: :doh:
we do get heavy thunderstorm now n than but majority of our days we are sweating like mad..:cheers6:
May be he always stays indoor in showflats with tinted glass. It seems to be always cloudy.
50-50? u must be joking! most of our days are hot,humid n sunny..
are u saying in a month on average we get 15 days dry n 15 wet days? :doh: :doh:
we do get heavy thunderstorm now n than but majority of our days we are sweating like mad..:cheers6:
50-50? u must be joking! most of our days are hot,humid n sunny..
are u saying in a month on average we get 15 days dry n 15 wet days? :doh: :doh:
we do get heavy thunderstorm now n than but majority of our days we are sweating like mad..:cheers6:
Haha did u monitor the past 1 week weather ? It has been gloomy and rainy lately...i missed the sun already n doesnt seem to be able to catch my afternoon swim. :cool:
thomastansb
20-10-11, 01:38
What are you trying to prove with 1 week of data?
:doh:
Haha did u monitor the past 1 week weather ? It has been gloomy and rainy lately...i missed the sun already n doesnt seem to be able to catch my afternoon swim. :cool:
Haha did u monitor the past 1 week weather ? It has been gloomy and rainy lately...i missed the sun already n doesnt seem to be able to catch my afternoon swim. :cool:
so intelligent of u to use 1 week's data. :doh:
may i know which property firm do u represent as an agent?
i'l make it a point to avoid using anyone from there..
too bad u have tarnished the reputation of your property firm by all your silly analysis.:D :D
i am sure u should know by now how "well liked" n "popular" u are here.:D
so intelligent of u to use 1 week's data. :doh:
may i know which property firm do u represent as an agent?
i'l make it a point to avoid using anyone from there..
too bad u have tarnished the reputation of your property firm by all your silly analysis.:D :D
i am sure u should know by now how "well liked" n "popular" u are here.:D
Seem like Thomastan and fiat500 are the same person..haha doesnt matter. That same person seems to have a grudge on me. Anyway, you can call yrself whatever name or create a new profile..your opinion here is simply opinion and doesnt make any impact on the property market at all.
Seem like Thomastan and fiat500 are the same person..haha doesnt matter. That same person seems to have a grudge on me. Anyway, you can call yrself whatever name or create a new profile..your opinion here is simply opinion and doesnt make any impact on the property market at all.
no,it has nothing to do with the property market at all.
surely i would want the property scene to be lively n vibrant..
its U that is the irritant here...:banghead:
but u made the right move not to reveal the property firm u represent...so as not to tarnish its image.:cheers6:
no,it has nothing to do with the property market at all.
surely i would want the property scene to be lively n vibrant..
its U that is the irritant here...:banghead:
but u made the right move not to reveal the property firm u represent...so as not to tarnish its image.:cheers6:
Whatever u say. As long as u are happy.
I am just merely stating facts that for the past few weeks the weather had been gloomy and rainy, except this afternoon.
Personally, I would hope for some sun to come back, as I like a brighter day than a gloomy day. It all depends on preferences.
And I bet there are many who like their units to be bright than dark, and as such, having some sun is a plus point rather than none at all. Of course full sun facing is undesirable but then it has never been a major issue in condo purchase nowadays. The view is still paramount.
Whats the use of having a unit with no afternoon sun but its facing another unit, or facing a community centre or main road etc...? A seaview is a gem of an asset nowadays. Not many freehold condos nowadays have a seaview.
Saw a unit for sale, 2 bedder, 850k neg ? What your view ? Top soon .... How rental for Amber?
thomastansb
27-10-11, 14:40
Nope, you are wrong on this.
Seem like Thomastan and fiat500 are the same person..haha doesnt matter. That same person seems to have a grudge on me. Anyway, you can call yrself whatever name or create a new profile..your opinion here is simply opinion and doesnt make any impact on the property market at all.
Saw a unit for sale, 2 bedder, 850k neg ? What your view ? Top soon .... How rental for Amber?
One of the most CMI layout (in fact all CMI) and most buyers bot below 600k or <1k psf, you wanna pay more than 250k for this crap wif mechanical carpark?
Whatever u say. As long as u are happy.
I am just merely stating facts that for the past few weeks the weather had been gloomy and rainy, except this afternoon.
Personally, I would hope for some sun to come back, as I like a brighter day than a gloomy day. It all depends on preferences.
And I bet there are many who like their units to be bright than dark, and as such, having some sun is a plus point rather than none at all. Of course full sun facing is undesirable but then it has never been a major issue in condo purchase nowadays. The view is still paramount.
Whats the use of having a unit with no afternoon sun but its facing another unit, or facing a community centre or main road etc...? A seaview is a gem of an asset nowadays. Not many freehold condos nowadays have a seaview.
i disagree with yr views..
for me,comfort of the house is more important..
no point coming back to a home that feels like an oven with a sea view.
take my neighbour's home as an eg: his unit has a beautiful view of the city's skyline,can even see mbs n the flyer. but during the day from noon onwards,his roller blinds n day curtains has to be drawn down due to the sun. the whole house is dim n hot.:doh: :doh:
as i said,most of our days in singapore are hot,humid n sunny with the exception of year end moonsoon season..:cheers6:
Thanks, straight to the point,
Appreciate it ...
One of the most CMI layout (in fact all CMI) and most buyers bot below 600k or <1k psf, you wanna pay more than 250k for this crap wif mechanical carpark?
Jonathan0503
27-10-11, 18:40
i disagree with yr views..
for me,comfort of the house is more important..
no point coming back to a home that feels like an oven with a sea view.
take my neighbour's home as an eg: his unit has a beautiful view of the city's skyline,can even see mbs n the flyer. but during the day from noon onwards,his roller blinds n day curtains has to be drawn down due to the sun. the whole house is dim n hot.:doh: :doh:
as i said,most of our days in singapore are hot,humid n sunny with the exception of year end moonsoon season..:cheers6:
Actually afternoon sun is ok for me. You can still have great view of the city/flyer/MBS in the morning and night.
Best part is fireworks at the bay area and kallang stadium
devilplate
27-10-11, 19:07
View is secondary to me....wana hf seaview, just drive to beach la....whahaha:p
Quiet and cooling hse is top priority for own stay.....gd for overall wellness:D
Only when ur hse is quiet and cooling den nice view will be a value added bonus:D
Imagine having a superb seaview but u cant sit at ur balcony to enjoy the view bcoz of the blarring heat and noise:rolleyes:
Actually afternoon sun is ok for me. You can still have great view of the city/flyer/MBS in the morning and night.
Best part is fireworks at the bay area and kallang stadium
dont forget,great view is only evident if yr unit is on a high floor...
those on lower levels wont get the seaview,flyer or mbs view but will still get the heat from the afternoon sun.
ultimately,comfort of yr home is still most important..:cheers6: :cheers6:
thomastansb
28-10-11, 20:02
Depends. Some bought at 800+ psf, some bought > 1,500 psf. Depends on when they buy. Far east better. They seldom reduce their prices. Even reduce, they only sell the worst possible units at slightly lower pricing. They think for the buyers.
One of the most CMI layout (in fact all CMI) and most buyers bot below 600k or <1k psf, you wanna pay more than 250k for this crap wif mechanical carpark?
thomastansb
28-10-11, 20:06
The layout itself is already :doh: IMO. Maybe it is just me but I would want a better layout and spacious unit than some half blocked seaview with plenty of trees blocking your view. Remember, east coast trees are about 10 stories tall and even at 15 floors, the view isn't that impressive. You need like > 20 at least to have a decent panoramic seaview. Half f*** seaview, I rather don't buy. This applies to all projects, not just this project. But Aristo is outstanding because of its "nice" layout.
i disagree with yr views..
for me,comfort of the house is more important..
no point coming back to a home that feels like an oven with a sea view.
take my neighbour's home as an eg: his unit has a beautiful view of the city's skyline,can even see mbs n the flyer. but during the day from noon onwards,his roller blinds n day curtains has to be drawn down due to the sun. the whole house is dim n hot.:doh: :doh:
as i said,most of our days in singapore are hot,humid n sunny with the exception of year end moonsoon season..:cheers6:
The layout itself is already :doh: IMO. Maybe it is just me but I would want a better layout and spacious unit than some half blocked seaview with plenty of trees blocking your view. Remember, east coast trees are about 10 stories tall and even at 15 floors, the view isn't that impressive. You need like > 20 at least to have a decent panoramic seaview. Half f*** seaview, I rather don't buy. This applies to all projects, not just this project. But Aristo is outstanding because of its "nice" layout.
But it will be noisy because it is confronted by a busy circle in front and a highway at the back. The sea view at the back will be partially blocked by silversea anyway.
Depends. Some bought at 800+ psf, some bought > 1,500 psf. Depends on when they buy. Far east better. They seldom reduce their prices. Even reduce, they only sell the worst possible units at slightly lower pricing. They think for the buyers.
Seriously I dont know what rubbish u are talking about. Continue to bring down The Aristo it shows how desperate you are interested in this development. Anyway Aristo at the peak economic growth was selling at $1700psf onwards for the high floor seafacing units and during the Lehman Crisis it went down to $1000psf mostly for lower floors leftovers.
It never did actually went down to $800psf as u mentioned. Probably u talking of a couple of units at lower floors sold in 2008/2009.
Dont forget during this Lehman Crisis period, The Sail At Marina Bay price also adjusted down from $2200psf to $1500psf as sellers become desperate. A unit at Marina Bay Residences was also selling at $1400psf and now its transacting at $2300psf or more. Just because there is not much transaction at The Aristo you cannot assume that The Aristo is not appreciating in value. The last transaction was for a 614 sq,ft, a unit layout facing The Cape, which i presume the worst facing in the whole development. All other owners of better layouts that I know of, especially those facing the sea view are asking above $1500psf minimum with many looking around $1700-1800psf. You can try yr luck bringing down The Aristo.
Dont even think I am an ignorant fool like many other buyers. I have years of experience in this industry. You can fool anyone else not me.
It never did actually went down to $800psf as u mentioned. Probably u talking of a couple of units at lower floors sold in 2008/2009.
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your statements are confusing.
so was it ever transacted at $800+ psf or not, at any point in time since launch?
Thomastan mentioned $800+ psf and not exactly $800psf.
thomastansb
31-10-11, 09:21
Since you are so seasoned, as you claim, you should know prices don't move equally between different projects. You need me to teach you this also? MBR went from 1500 to 2300 doesn't mean Aristo will go from 1100 to 1900 psf. It could be stuck at 1300 psf even though all other projects are moving upwards. Or it could remain at a high although all projects are dropping. Looking at URA data, it would seems like the former.
And how many serious properties buyers actually care what is mentioned in forum?
Seriously I dont know what rubbish u are talking about. Continue to bring down The Aristo it shows how desperate you are interested in this development. Anyway Aristo at the peak economic growth was selling at $1700psf onwards for the high floor seafacing units and during the Lehman Crisis it went down to $1000psf mostly for lower floors leftovers.
It never did actually went down to $800psf as u mentioned. Probably u talking of a couple of units at lower floors sold in 2008/2009.
Dont forget during this Lehman Crisis period, The Sail At Marina Bay price also adjusted down from $2200psf to $1500psf as sellers become desperate. A unit at Marina Bay Residences was also selling at $1400psf and now its transacting at $2300psf or more. Just because there is not much transaction at The Aristo you cannot assume that The Aristo is not appreciating in value. The last transaction was for a 614 sq,ft, a unit layout facing The Cape, which i presume the worst facing in the whole development. All other owners of better layouts that I know of, especially those facing the sea view are asking above $1500psf minimum with many looking around $1700-1800psf. You can try yr luck bringing down The Aristo.
Dont even think I am an ignorant fool like many other buyers. I have years of experience in this industry. You can fool anyone else not me.
your statements are confusing.
so was it ever transacted at $800+ psf or not, at any point in time since launch?
Thomastan mentioned $800+ psf and not exactly $800psf.
To be on a fair side, shawn is right, it never went to $800 psf, top 10 cheapest units:
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #02-04 1 83 Strata 806,835 9721 903 09-APR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-04 1 57 Strata 560,000 9825 913 23-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #05-04 1 57 Strata 565,801 9926 922 22-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #06-04 1 57 Strata 572,000 10035 932 29-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-03 1 60 Strata 605,000 10083 937 18-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #05-03 1 60 Strata 608,000 10133 941 02-MAR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale Private 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #17-03 1 149 Strata 1,523,800 10227 950 04-AUG-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale Private 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #08-04 1 57 Strata 583,300 10233 951 05-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-02 1 75 Strata 768,000 10240 951 30-APR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #07-04 1 57 Strata 583,300 10233 951 04-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parad
I am really glad that I did not buy at $1700psf when it was launched. Down by almost 50% Good buy for those at $900psf.
To be on a fair side, shawn is right, it never went to $800 psf, top 10 cheapest units:
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #02-04 1 83 Strata 806,835 9721 903 09-APR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-04 1 57 Strata 560,000 9825 913 23-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #05-04 1 57 Strata 565,801 9926 922 22-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #06-04 1 57 Strata 572,000 10035 932 29-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-03 1 60 Strata 605,000 10083 937 18-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #05-03 1 60 Strata 608,000 10133 941 02-MAR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale Private 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #17-03 1 149 Strata 1,523,800 10227 950 04-AUG-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale Private 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #08-04 1 57 Strata 583,300 10233 951 05-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-02 1 75 Strata 768,000 10240 951 30-APR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #07-04 1 57 Strata 583,300 10233 951 04-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parad
thomastansb
31-10-11, 15:22
Fair enough. $903 psf. Maybe cash back from developer? It was popular during that time. I mean it was advertised at $8xx psf after all. But we can just take it at $903 psf.
To be on a fair side, shawn is right, it never went to $800 psf, top 10 cheapest units:
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #02-04 1 83 Strata 806,835 9721 903 09-APR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-04 1 57 Strata 560,000 9825 913 23-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #05-04 1 57 Strata 565,801 9926 922 22-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #06-04 1 57 Strata 572,000 10035 932 29-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-03 1 60 Strata 605,000 10083 937 18-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #05-03 1 60 Strata 608,000 10133 941 02-MAR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale Private 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #17-03 1 149 Strata 1,523,800 10227 950 04-AUG-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale Private 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #08-04 1 57 Strata 583,300 10233 951 05-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-02 1 75 Strata 768,000 10240 951 30-APR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #07-04 1 57 Strata 583,300 10233 951 04-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parad
Stack 4, level 12, got an offer at 845k
Agent said 850k sure deal...
Seller Huat, that abt 1400psf, easily 40% profit.
Stack 4, level 12, got an offer at 845k
Agent said 850k sure deal...
Seller Huat, that abt 1400psf, easily 40% profit.
avoid stack 3 n 4 at all cost unless u getting it cheap..
its almost direct afternoon sun...:simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering:
avoid stack 3 n 4 at all cost unless u getting it cheap..
its almost direct afternoon sun...:simmering: :simmering: :simmering: :simmering:
Yup best is stack 02 which has unblocked seaview from living as well as bedrooms. But it still has a partial morning and afternoon sun.
Talking about afternoon sun, I think I am starting to miss the sun. It has been weeks of raining and no sun. So I am just wondering if facing afternoon sun really matters anymore hahaha.
If you dont want afternoon sun, you can consider Stack 1 which has morning sun but mostly blocked by Silversea, or Stack 4, which has no seaview but partial afternoon sun and owners selling around $1300-1500psf. If you hoping to buy stack 2 and 3 for that kinda price just because they have morning or afternoon sun, you can drop the idea. Nobody going to sell it to you cause they know these 2 stacks have good seaviews.
I just sold Meyerise 3 bedroom facing partial afternoon sun at above $2300 psf. Do you think people bother about afternoon sun nowadays especially with new film technology, window dressing, trellis, and the fact that we barely see the sun for weeks ?
Stack 4, level 12, got an offer at 845k
Agent said 850k sure deal...
Seller Huat, that abt 1400psf, easily 40% profit.
You better grab cause you aint going to see this kind of pricing anymore once The Aristo TOP. Mark my post here and 6 months later you come back to check. Stack 4 nevertheless has no seaview and its just beside The Cape facing. So no matter wat, Stack 4 will sell above $1500psf when its TOP. The other stacks will sell above $1600psf depending on floor level of course.
devilplate
03-11-11, 00:41
You better grab cause you aint going to see this kind of pricing anymore once The Aristo TOP. Mark my post here and 6 months later you come back to check. Stack 4 nevertheless has no seaview and its just beside The Cape facing. So no matter wat, Stack 4 will sell above $1500psf when its TOP. The other stacks will sell above $1600psf depending on floor level of course.
u din read our ever famous thread by basic meh? Hehehe 50% drop is coming....lol
Another guy call proudowner mentioned a high flr seaview unit at seafront sold for 17xxpsf recently bcoz cant find tenant den sell near breakeven px
To be on a fair side, shawn is right, it never went to $800 psf, top 10 cheapest units:
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #02-04 1 83 Strata 806,835 9721 903 09-APR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-04 1 57 Strata 560,000 9825 913 23-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #05-04 1 57 Strata 565,801 9926 922 22-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #06-04 1 57 Strata 572,000 10035 932 29-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-03 1 60 Strata 605,000 10083 937 18-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #05-03 1 60 Strata 608,000 10133 941 02-MAR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale Private 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #17-03 1 149 Strata 1,523,800 10227 950 04-AUG-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale Private 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #08-04 1 57 Strata 583,300 10233 951 05-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-02 1 75 Strata 768,000 10240 951 30-APR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #07-04 1 57 Strata 583,300 10233 951 04-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parad
Thanks for your feedback. This person called Thomastan who also uses other nick seem to be targeting The Aristo probably he has missed the boat in buying during the Lehman Crisis and hoping that Aristo will drop to $800psf. A place in Amber Road drops to $800psf?? You can continue to dream on Thomas. We agents know what to price condos based on location and facing and floor level.
Even DBSS HDB already pricing around $700psf needless to say they are not even freehold and not in Amber Road or near the sea. And 99-year condos near bedok reservoir is already calling at $1200psf for some smaller units. Even worn down marine parade HDB 3-bedroom (60 sq.metre) is calling above $400k. So blaming it on afternoon sun, small layout, small land etc wont reflect well on you.
u din read our ever famous thread by basic meh? Hehehe 50% drop is coming....lol
Another guy call proudowner mentioned a high flr seaview unit at seafront sold for 17xxpsf recently bcoz cant find tenant den sell near breakeven px
I just sold a 3 bedroom Meyerise condo for $2300psf and the owner is buying to stay. Lots of condos in these area are owner occupation and not for rental.
A 50% drop is unlikely in fact Singapore is still facing a shortage in houses due to the limit in supply from 1998-2004 which create this excessive demand overhang. Buyers are just waiting on the sideline due to the cooling stock market and economic review.
To be on a fair side, shawn is right, it never went to $800 psf, top 10 cheapest units:
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #02-04 1 83 Strata 806,835 9721 903 09-APR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-04 1 57 Strata 560,000 9825 913 23-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #05-04 1 57 Strata 565,801 9926 922 22-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #06-04 1 57 Strata 572,000 10035 932 29-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-03 1 60 Strata 605,000 10083 937 18-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #05-03 1 60 Strata 608,000 10133 941 02-MAR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale Private 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #17-03 1 149 Strata 1,523,800 10227 950 04-AUG-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale Private 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #08-04 1 57 Strata 583,300 10233 951 05-DEC-2008 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #04-02 1 75 Strata 768,000 10240 951 30-APR-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parade
THE ARISTO @ AMBER 23 Amber Road #07-04 1 57 Strata 583,300 10233 951 04-FEB-2009 Apartment Freehold Uncompleted New Sale HDB 15 43 439871 Central Region Marine Parad
And these low transactions happen in 2008/2009. Everyone knows what happens during this period...unless you pretend to be ignorant.
thomastansb
03-11-11, 01:07
Oh yeah, I think I miss the boat. Oppss.. And ya, just take it that I was trying to bring down to 800 psf. Just take it that I was bullshitting about lousy layout, weird proportion of balcony size, useless planters surrounding the unit, ridiculous bay window area.
Still, I don't see your logic about DBSS 700 psf or bedok 1200 psf. It doesn't matter when prices fall. Bishan 8 was selling at record high in late 90s so ????? Meaning prices don't drop below 1.1k psf? Hmm.. Flawed logic.
1997, 2001, 2003, 2008, ????.
Thanks for your feedback. This person called Thomastan who also uses other nick seem to be targeting The Aristo probably he has missed the boat in buying during the Lehman Crisis and hoping that Aristo will drop to $800psf. A place in Amber Road drops to $800psf?? You can continue to dream on Thomas. We agents know what to price condos based on location and facing and floor level.
Even DBSS HDB already pricing around $700psf needless to say they are not even freehold and not in Amber Road or near the sea. And 99-year condos near bedok reservoir is already calling at $1200psf for some smaller units. Even worn down marine parade HDB 3-bedroom (60 sq.metre) is calling above $400k. So blaming it on afternoon sun, small layout, small land etc wont reflect well on you.
thomastansb
03-11-11, 01:08
Sound familiar. Someone said the same thing end of 2008..
I just sold a 3 bedroom Meyerise condo for $2300psf and the owner is buying to stay. Lots of condos in these area are owner occupation and not for rental.
A 50% drop is unlikely in fact Singapore is still facing a shortage in houses due to the limit in supply from 1998-2004 which create this excessive demand overhang. Buyers are just waiting on the sideline due to the cooling stock market and economic review.
View is secondary to me....wana hf seaview, just drive to beach la....whahaha:p
Quiet and cooling hse is top priority for own stay.....gd for overall wellness:D
Only when ur hse is quiet and cooling den nice view will be a value added bonus:D
Imagine having a superb seaview but u cant sit at ur balcony to enjoy the view bcoz of the blarring heat and noise:rolleyes:
Hehe for the past 4 weeks I miss the afternoon sun already cause its been gloomy and rainy. And the weather has not been sunny throughout the year. If you ask me its 50:50 sun and gloomy day. In addition, there are taller buildings across to block the sun view at certain times. For eg. in front of Aristo you have a 30 storey Aalto or 21 storey Silversea or 28 storey Amber condo. So it wont have afternoon sun 100% cause these taller condos will offer some sunblock protection towards later part of the afternoon which is usually the hottest period.
As an agent, marketing a unit doesnt take into account morning or afternoon sun. What most important is the interior finishes and the exterior facade (facing). Most of the eastern condos facing city and seaview have partial or full afternoon sun. Unless we can change the position of the city and the sea, this is inevitable.
thomastansb
03-11-11, 01:14
So you think Aristo can withstand the crisis if it comes?
And these low transactions happen in 2008/2009. Everyone knows what happens during this period...unless you pretend to be ignorant.
thomastansb
03-11-11, 01:17
I agree with you on the seaview part. But do you think Aristo layout is good? I mean, surrounded by bay windows, surrounded by planters + a big balcony. Oh ya, it is not as if the actual unit has a lot of space. I don't know how anyone can fit a bed + a study table into the master room. Don't you wish the planter space is used for master room instead? Or living room? Hehe... :tongue3:
Hehe for the past 4 weeks I miss the afternoon sun already cause its been gloomy and rainy. And the weather has not been sunny throughout the year. If you ask me its 50:50 sun and gloomy day. In addition, there are taller buildings across to block the sun view at certain times. For eg. in front of Aristo you have a 30 storey Aalto or 21 storey Silversea or 28 storey Amber condo. So it wont have afternoon sun 100% cause these taller condos will offer some sunblock protection towards later part of the afternoon which is usually the hottest period.
As an agent, marketing a unit doesnt take into account morning or afternoon sun. What most important is the interior finishes and the exterior facade (facing). Most of the eastern condos facing city and seaview have partial or full afternoon sun. Unless we can change the position of the city and the sea, this is inevitable.
So you think Aristo can withstand the crisis if it comes?
If crisis happens not only Aristo but prestigious city condos like The Sail will fall like a wall of cards. But as far as I see, The Aristo wont fall as much compared to these condos in the city which have appreciated too far up.
By the way, i remembered your earlier post just few months back complaining that this project is very slow completion and still on the 2nd floor. Perhaps you should go and check again which floor The Aristo is at. You blame it on the developer probably having financial difficulties etc...Too much of your hallucination thought (FM 99.5) might ruin yr investment capabilities !! U probably hoping for 'Aristo Sale of the Year' hahaha
All the best of luck.
I agree with you on the seaview part. But do you think Aristo layout is good? I mean, surrounded by bay windows, surrounded by planters + a big balcony. Oh ya, it is not as if the actual unit has a lot of space. I don't know how anyone can fit a bed + a study table into the master room. Don't you wish the planter space is used for master room instead? Or living room? Hehe... :tongue3:
As I already mentioned The Aristo substituted the Aircon ledge, bomb shelter, kitchen yard with a bigger balcony area. The size of the bedroom is not that small. My last check for the master bedroom of the smallest #04 stack was at 2.55 metres x 3.2 metres approx excluding the private bedroom balcony and the bay window. Do you think this size cannot fit in a queen size bed??
Also its aircon ledge is non existent saving on space. There is also no bomb shelter and instead more space for balcony area. Kitchen and living room are combined into one open concept area. This is a new concept housing for city living which also saves on space.
thomastansb
03-11-11, 01:41
What about the planters surrounding the balcony and unit? That is the killer.
Oh ya, of course can fit a queen size bed. But can fit 1 more table? Hehehe..
My point is simple. The house is already so small and you have like 40% on balcony and planters and bay windows?? Huh???
As I already mentioned The Aristo substituted the Aircon ledge, bomb shelter, kitchen yard with a bigger balcony area. The size of the bedroom is not that small. My last check for the master bedroom of #04 stack was at 2.55 metres x 3.2 metres approx excluding the private bedroom balcony and the bay window. Do you think this size cannot fit in a queen size bed??
Also its aircon ledge is non existent saving on space. There is also no bomb shelter and instead more space for balcony area. Kitchen and living room are combined into one open concept area. This is a new concept housing for city living which also saves on space.
What about the planters surrounding the balcony and unit? That is the killer.
Oh ya, of course can fit a queen size bed. But can fit 1 more table? Hehehe..
My point is simple. The house is already so small and you have like 40% on balcony and planters and bay windows?? Huh???
If you ask me, the balcony adds to the aesthetic appeal of this development which is near to the sea shore. Lots of people including myself love to have a big balcony especially if its facing the sea. And a full glass balcony makes the unit looks bigger as it has unlimited views from every angle of the unit.
I not sure if it can fit one more table it all depends on the size of the table but then there is another smaller one room which can be converted to a study or guest room.
The bigger units like Stack 1, 2 and 3 should have a bigger size rooms than stack 4.
The balcony doesnt take 40% of the unit. Its about 30%. Perhaps you should study other condos with balcony and see if u add up the balcony + aircon ledge + planter + bomb shelter + kitchen yard does it make up to 30% or maybe more??
thomastansb
03-11-11, 02:06
I don't like comparing with even lousier condos and console yourself. Balcony is fine but planters? Bay windows?
It is just like saying - I lost 100k in Lehman but I am very happy my friend lost 200k so I gain 100k.
Btw, 30% wastage is a lot. Hell lot. I am sure it is more than 30% but let's assume you are right. 646 sq ft x 70% = 450 sq ft left. Eh... 450 sq ft 2 bedroom, I rest my case.
If you ask me, the balcony adds to the aesthetic appeal of this development which is near to the sea shore. Lots of people including myself love to have a big balcony especially if its facing the sea. And a full glass balcony makes the unit looks bigger as it has unlimited views from every angle of the unit.
I not sure if it can fit one more table it all depends on the size of the table but then there is another smaller one room which can be converted to a study or guest room.
The bigger units like Stack 1, 2 and 3 should have a bigger size rooms than stack 4.
The balcony doesnt take 40% of the unit. Its about 30%. Perhaps you should study other condos with balcony and see if u add up the balcony + aircon ledge + planter + bomb shelter + kitchen yard does it make up to 30% or maybe more??
Both sides has its merits. Personally only stack 2 is probably worth looking at. The master bedrm, frm flrplan looks ok though the 2nd rm seriously small unless occupant is an child or convert to study rm. Balcony wise unless it has the million dollar view, I wun even want to pay 30% for this empty airspace. Without the balcony, at most is just a 2rm MM unit like what thomas mentioned
I don't like comparing with even lousier condos and console yourself. Balcony is fine but planters? Bay windows?
It is just like saying - I lost 100k in Lehman but I am very happy my friend lost 200k so I gain 100k.
Btw, 30% wastage is a lot. Hell lot. I am sure it is more than 30% but let's assume you are right. 646 sq ft x 70% = 450 sq ft left. Eh... 450 sq ft 2 bedroom, I rest my case.
This is a small development just like 16 @ Amber or The Cape which also have small sized units. Its for people who want to be close to the city and the sea but cant afford city/seaview prices hahaha.
And it will sell cause for eg. even if a 2 bedroom 646 sq.ft unit sold at $1600 psf, it only comes to about $1 million net which is cheap and affordable to many people and still much way cheaper than another similar bigger 2 bedrooms around this area or even in the outskirts, and freehold some more. Just look at Meyerise 2 bedroom 872 sq.ft its transacting at $1.4 million on average..it also has a large balcony, bay window, 2 aircon ledge areas, bomb shelter and on top of that a private lift lobby area. And to think that Aristo location is more convenient and accessible compared to Meyerise. And mind you, the 2 bedroom at Meyerise has zero (no) seaview
Yup best is stack 02 which has unblocked seaview from living as well as bedrooms. But it still has a partial morning and afternoon sun.
Talking about afternoon sun, I think I am starting to miss the sun. It has been weeks of raining and no sun. So I am just wondering if facing afternoon sun really matters anymore hahaha.
If you dont want afternoon sun, you can consider Stack 1 which has morning sun but mostly blocked by Silversea, or Stack 4, which has no seaview but partial afternoon sun and owners selling around $1300-1500psf. If you hoping to buy stack 2 and 3 for that kinda price just because they have morning or afternoon sun, you can drop the idea. Nobody going to sell it to you cause they know these 2 stacks have good seaviews.
I just sold Meyerise 3 bedroom facing partial afternoon sun at above $2300 psf. Do you think people bother about afternoon sun nowadays especially with new film technology, window dressing, trellis, and the fact that we barely see the sun for weeks ?
its pointless! no point repeating on the same topic over n over again...ultimately i still disagree with u from A - Z..
the aristo sits on a good location but too bad the project itself sucks big time..some other architects might hv done a much better job. :banghead: :banghead:
thomastansb
03-11-11, 09:54
Finally you are talking some sense. I agree with you the quantum is small but you get what you pay for.
This is a small development just like 16 @ Amber or The Cape which also have small sized units. Its for people who want to be close to the city and the sea but cant afford city/seaview prices hahaha.
And it will sell cause for eg. even if a 2 bedroom 646 sq.ft unit sold at $1600 psf, it only comes to about $1 million net which is cheap and affordable to many people and still much way cheaper than another similar bigger 2 bedrooms around this area or even in the outskirts, and freehold some more. Just look at Meyerise 2 bedroom 872 sq.ft its transacting at $1.4 million on average..it also has a large balcony, bay window, 2 aircon ledge areas, bomb shelter and on top of that a private lift lobby area. And to think that Aristo location is more convenient and accessible compared to Meyerise. And mind you, the 2 bedroom at Meyerise has zero (no) seaview
thomastansb
03-11-11, 09:56
Yah.. Agree. Location is not bad but buyers pay the price for developer's profit. Really too much. Planters surrounding the unit, big balcony and bay windows everywhere. Looking at the 2nd bedroom, you can't even fit a normal bed over it. If you try to fit, your door won't close. What a joke..
its pointless! no point repeating on the same topic over n over again...ultimately i still disagree with u from A - Z..
the aristo sits on a good location but too bad the project itself sucks big time..some other architects might hv done a much better job. :banghead: :banghead:
devilplate
03-11-11, 09:59
Yah.. Agree. Location is not bad but buyers pay the price for developer's profit. Really too much. Planters surrounding the unit, big balcony and bay windows everywhere. Looking at the 2nd bedroom, you can't even fit a normal bed over it. If you try to fit, your door won't close. What a joke..
tat time when aristo cut px to 9xxpsf.....one can buy a unit at one amber at 8xxpsf.....even 1bdr can get for 9xxpsf which worth 16xxpsf now.....hehehe
i am very surprised y a savvy agent like shawn buy aristo instead?:confused: :D
I hate this project so much by tearing down the old butterfly house, it has such an unique architectural design
We shall keep those good stuff for the future...once gone it is gone for good
devilplate
03-11-11, 10:14
I hate this project so much by tearing down the old butterfly house, it has such an unique architectural design
We shall keep those good stuff for the future...once gone it is gone for good
tot butterfly hse stays?:D
tot butterfly hse stays?:D
only the outer shell of the butterfly hse remains..rest all torn down,what a waste! :scared-4: :scared-4:
I marked your post but i am bearish.
Let c what happened after top...
No offense..i am super against mech carpk....and bay window, planter unless really cheap.
Dont have space for carpk,....that remind me of oxley
You better grab cause you aint going to see this kind of pricing anymore once The Aristo TOP. Mark my post here and 6 months later you come back to check. Stack 4 nevertheless has no seaview and its just beside The Cape facing. So no matter wat, Stack 4 will sell above $1500psf when its TOP. The other stacks will sell above $1600psf depending on floor level of course.
Jonathan0503
04-11-11, 10:46
I marked your post but i am bearish.
Let c what happened after top...
No offense..i am super against mech carpk....and bay window, planter unless really cheap.
Dont have space for carpk,....that remind me of oxley
Think mechanical carpark would still work for those projects consisting mainly MM. Most of the residentials would either not own or drive cars
Not cheap to operate and maintain such a system.
Think mechanical carpark would still work for those projects consisting mainly MM. Most of the residentials would either not own or drive cars
Think mechanical carpark would still work for those projects consisting mainly MM. Most of the residentials would either not own or drive cars
living along amber road and you don't own a car....gg, welcome to long hikes under the hot sun to reach public transport nodes
Jonathan0503
04-11-11, 23:10
living along amber road and you don't own a car....gg, welcome to long hikes under the hot sun to reach public transport nodes
Thought there's a bus stop less than 100m away? Somewhere between amber residences and esta?
Yes there is a bus stop opposite The Seaview, just outside Amber Residences. However, the other side of Amber Road is less well connected to public transport because of the major highway (tanjong katong road south). The closest are probably the bus stops along Mountbatten Road that serve the Jalan Seaview residents and the One Amber/Esta residents.
Thought there's a bus stop less than 100m away? Somewhere between amber residences and esta?
Yes there is a bus stop opposite The Seaview, just outside Amber Residences. However, the other side of Amber Road is less well connected to public transport because of the major highway (tanjong katong road south). The closest are probably the bus stops along Mountbatten Road that serve the Jalan Seaview residents and the One Amber/Esta residents.
If the One Amber bus stop is too far away, then buy a car. The walk from Amber road road to Mountbatten road is less than 5 minutes. If you want to stay closer, buy something on top of an MRT station and travel only to places which are on top of other MRT stations. This is just complaining with the only justification being lazy.
I marked your post but i am bearish.
Let c what happened after top...
No offense..i am super against mech carpk....and bay window, planter unless really cheap.
Dont have space for carpk,....that remind me of oxley
Lots of new condos coming out in Orchard/River Valley area come with mechanised carparks. U cant help it land space is getting more expensive. U should thank God if u can get one carpark per unit. Some condos in town like The Sail, Icon need to ballot for carpark space and the owner still need to pay separately for the carpark fee on top of maintenance fee.
And with and without mechanised carpark, Orchard Road condos will still sell above $2500psf, so as condos with seaview will call a premium pricing.
Far East selling its studios at Seawind near east coast road for $1500++psf, and as u know these units have no seaview other than facing a busy road going to Eunos.
As an agent, I can forsee the premium value in The Aristo being close to the sea and yet having the world of amenities near to it for eg. shopping mall, food joints, bus stops, Chinese Swimming Club, and future mrt station. And on top of that, its status of freehold. As of now, this development is yet to TOP. Its real value will only unfold once its completed.
And with its small size from 614 - 808 sq.ft, its affordable to a lot of people who aspire to live in the prestigious Amber/Meyer Road district. Even at $1 million for its 614 sq.ft, I would still think its cheap if you compare similar pricing within the same district.
All the best. I might be wrong but I have never been wrong for the past 15 years as an agent.
living along amber road and you don't own a car....gg, welcome to long hikes under the hot sun to reach public transport nodes
This guy is completely clueless of the location of Aristo or Amber Road and the fact that there is a major bus stop just 30 metres away from Aristo entrance. One would just need to walk like 3 minutes or less to reach the bus stop.
Btw I know there are some people out there hoping to buy The Aristo at cheap price by badmouthing Aristo but its not going to happen. Most of the desperate sellers have already sold. Even if there is, most of them are the Stack 4 units i.e. 614 sq.ft which has no seaview. Some people are eyeing to buy the seaview stacks, but u can drop the idea if you want to buy them below $1500psf. Its not going to happen.
I have a list of owners looking to sell from $1600-$2200psf for The Aristo seaview facing. After seeing the Aristo seaviews from the 14th floor clubhouse level, I am very confident now that the view is spectacular enough to induce anyone to spend $1 million dollar for a 646 sq.ft unit at least, if not more.:)
So if you can catch a seller of Stack 1,2 and 3 selling at below $1500psf for now, better grab it fast cause the Cheap Sale of the Year is going to be over soon.
Can I just put this wall paper to get seaview? Cost less than $1k I suppose
http://www.socksoff.co.uk/00001/page06/Sea_View_1600.png :p
The place where I stay has a sea view, but I rarely view the sea. I wonder why people pay so much to view the sea. Strange.
Jonathan0503
15-11-11, 07:56
Can I just put this wall paper to get seaview? Cost less than $1k I suppose
http://www.socksoff.co.uk/00001/page06/Sea_View_1600.png :p
The place where I stay has a sea view, but I rarely view the sea. I wonder why people pay so much to view the sea. Strange.
Think those who have never stayed in a property with sea view will most likely hope to have one.
Probably the novelty dies off after you have stayed in one for a while...
devilplate
15-11-11, 09:38
tat time when aristo cut px to 9xxpsf.....one can buy a unit at one amber at 8xxpsf.....even 1bdr can get for 9xxpsf which worth 16xxpsf now.....hehehe
i am very surprised y a savvy agent like shawn buy aristo instead?:confused: :D
our genius agent shawn tat nvr been wrong for past 15yrs...
care to xplain?:D
devilplate
15-11-11, 09:41
Think those who have never stayed in a property with sea view will most likely hope to have one.
Probably the novelty dies off after you have stayed in one for a while...
well....seaview must comes together with tranquility and peace.....den the novelty will haf a lasting effect......having seabreeze at ur own balcony is super shiok:D
gime seaview coupled with noise and dust.....NO!!!!!
Lots of new condos coming out in Orchard/River Valley area come with mechanised carparks. U cant help it land space is getting more expensive. U should thank God if u can get one carpark per unit. Some condos in town like The Sail, Icon need to ballot for carpark space and the owner still need to pay separately for the carpark fee on top of maintenance fee.
And with and without mechanised carpark, Orchard Road condos will still sell above $2500psf, so as condos with seaview will call a premium pricing.
Far East selling its studios at Seawind near east coast road for $1500++psf, and as u know these units have no seaview other than facing a busy road going to Eunos.
As an agent, I can forsee the premium value in The Aristo being close to the sea and yet having the world of amenities near to it for eg. shopping mall, food joints, bus stops, Chinese Swimming Club, and future mrt station. And on top of that, its status of freehold. As of now, this development is yet to TOP. Its real value will only unfold once its completed.
And with its small size from 614 - 808 sq.ft, its affordable to a lot of people who aspire to live in the prestigious Amber/Meyer Road district. Even at $1 million for its 614 sq.ft, I would still think its cheap if you compare similar pricing within the same district.
All the best. I might be wrong but I have never been wrong for the past 15 years as an agent.
wow! thats interesting! never know the entire project of aristo has seaview? :scared-1:
if not,good alternative would be to stand on top of the numerous thick bay windows around the house to get a glimpse of the seaview..:cheers6:
wow! thats interesting! never know the entire project of aristo has seaview? :scared-1:
if not,good alternative would be to stand on top of the numerous thick bay windows around the house to get a glimpse of the seaview..:cheers6:
Yup the agents at Bedok Residences also claimed that some of their units have sea view although as u know Bedok is like 2 km or more away from the sea. Whereas Aristo is like less than 100 metres away from the sea shore. You can believe those agents at Bedok Residences and pay $1500 psf for a high floor 600 sq.ft unit or pay $1500psf for a 614 sq.ft at Amber ???
Hahaha
wow! thats interesting! never know the entire project of aristo has seaview? :scared-1:
if not,good alternative would be to stand on top of the numerous thick bay windows around the house to get a glimpse of the seaview..:cheers6:
Whatever u say wont change the fact that Aristo is strategically located at a prime district 15 area, close to the city and the seaview is reasonably good. In addition, this development is freehold and its near to ameneties like shopping malls, eateries, big splash (food joints) and bus stop. In addition, next year the government will announce the construction of the eastern regional mrt line which will link Amber to Airport and the city centre by one mrt line.
And bear in mind ya, if you can still buy Aristo at $1500 psf when its TOP next year, u are considered very very lucky. Cause i am expecting at least $1700psf onwards for its low floor units to $2300psf for the high floor sea view units. All the luck.
simple, bcos it doesnt have a mall below it.
somehow buyers who want the mall-below-my-condo lifestyle is willing to pay for something like BR and not this.
simple, bcos it doesnt have a mall below it.
somehow buyers who want the mall-below-my-condo lifestyle is willing to pay for something like BR and not this.
Haha thats funny...is that a joke or wat ?? I cant see high class owners wanting to stay in a condo with shops below it. It sounds like a HDB with shops below...even that lifestyle some HDB owners also dont like..they want more privacy and prefer a standalone HDB without any shops below it.
Whatever u say wont change the fact that Aristo is strategically located at a prime district 15 area, close to the city and the seaview is reasonably good. In addition, this development is freehold and its near to ameneties like shopping malls, eateries, big splash (food joints) and bus stop. In addition, next year the government will announce the construction of the eastern regional mrt line which will link Amber to Airport and the city centre by one mrt line.
And bear in mind ya, if you can still buy Aristo at $1500 psf when its TOP next year, u are considered very very lucky. Cause i am expecting at least $1700psf onwards for its low floor units to $2300psf for the high floor sea view units. All the luck.
whatever u say will also not change the fact that the layout for all the aristo units sucks BIG time..
i do agree that aristo sits on a very good location in katong but too bad the facing of stack 3 n 4(almost direct west sun) n the poor layout design of all the units brings down the whole project altogether..
when i visited the showroom( the biggest unit they have ),i was shocked to see the sofa n queen size bed being mounted on the baywindow.it just shows there's so little living space in the apartment at the expense of an oversize balcony n planter box..:doh:
Haha thats funny...is that a joke or wat ?? I cant see high class owners wanting to stay in a condo with shops below it. It sounds like a HDB with shops below...even that lifestyle some HDB owners also dont like..they want more privacy and prefer a standalone HDB without any shops below it.
correct lor, so u just continue to patiently wait for your high class owners who wont touch projects like BR or centris to buy your bestest high class aristo lah.
meanwhile projects like BR are selling like hot cakes, u can't deny it. But does it mean aristo therefore becomes more attractive to such buyers, especially now u hope to sell aristo at even highwer psf? u continue to wait hehe.
Already while you guys are talking, Aristo transaction prices have already crept up even before TOP.
The last 2 units sold recently a 614 sq.ft not facing sea and the worst layout is selling at $1372 psf while a mid floor 711 sq.ft just close at $1420 psf.
It wont be long when u see $1500 psf coming up before TOP for sure. Once TOP, it will breeze past $1700 psf.
Hope u guys still here yah for me to blast u. I bet its the same pathetic guy who has multiple nicknames who are making the same noise on Aristo. Or should i call him August, Fiat, Thomastan etc.
I ask everyone in this forum does it make sense that a guy can make so much negative judgments on a condo and yet has so much knowledge of this development then claims that he has no interest in this condo development ???? If he has no interest, he wont spend a lot of his time submitting opinions here that wont benefit him at all.
whatever u say will also not change the fact that the layout for all the aristo units sucks BIG time..
i do agree that aristo sits on a very good location in katong but too bad the facing of stack 3 n 4(almost direct west sun) n the poor layout design of all the units brings down the whole project altogether..
when i visited the showroom( the biggest unit they have ),i was shocked to see the sofa n queen size bed being mounted on the baywindow.it just shows there's so little living space in the apartment at the expense of an oversize balcony n planter box..:doh:
Haha talking about the sun, I think I am beginning to miss the sun. It has been raining in the afternoon especially for the past 1 month or so non stop. And the weather has been either hazy or gloomy. U think anybody will bother to care abt afternoon sun nowadays ?
Why dont you just check with the buyers of Meyerise and Aalto the 3 bedroom facing sea and the city ? Why are they paying above $2000psf for a high floor unit and yet facing full afternoon sun?? Probably they will just ignore your call.
U are just a typical Singaporean complaining about everything and anything just to make your case right. When actually u are just making a fool of yrself.
And with yr statement you are giving yrself away. U have so much interest in this development and as an agent I know u miss out in a good purchase of the bigger unit. Too bad chances dont come twice. If u keen u just need to buy from subsale history doesnt repeat again. I can help u finding a bigger sea facing unit (807 sq.ft or the penthouse units) but be prepared to pay $1600psf onwards ya depending on floor level
Already while you guys are talking, Aristo transaction prices have already crept up even before TOP.
The last 2 units sold recently a 614 sq.ft not facing sea and the worst layout is selling at $1372 psf while a mid floor 711 sq.ft just close at $1420 psf.
It wont be long when u see $1500 psf coming up before TOP for sure. Once TOP, it will breeze past $1700 psf.
Hope u guys still here yah for me to blast u. I bet its the same pathetic guy who has multiple nicknames who are making the same noise on Aristo. Or should i call him August, Fiat, Thomastan etc.
I ask everyone in this forum does it make sense that a guy can make so much negative judgments on a condo and yet has so much knowledge of this development then claims that he has no interest in this condo development ???? If he has no interest, he wont spend a lot of his time submitting opinions here that wont benefit him at all.
dun be paranoid, i am just one person lah, u think so free to create multiple accounts? :o
Already while you guys are talking, Aristo transaction prices have already crept up even before TOP.
The last 2 units sold recently a 614 sq.ft not facing sea and the worst layout is selling at $1372 psf while a mid floor 711 sq.ft just close at $1420 psf.
It wont be long when u see $1500 psf coming up before TOP for sure. Once TOP, it will breeze past $1700 psf.
Hope u guys still here yah for me to blast u. I bet its the same pathetic guy who has multiple nicknames who are making the same noise on Aristo. Or should i call him August, Fiat, Thomastan etc.
I ask everyone in this forum does it make sense that a guy can make so much negative judgments on a condo and yet has so much knowledge of this development then claims that he has no interest in this condo development ???? If he has no interest, he wont spend a lot of his time submitting opinions here that wont benefit him at all.
dun be paranoid, i am the other 1 person lah, u think so free to create multiple accounts ah? :doh:
dun be paranoid, i am just one person lah, u think so free to create multiple accounts? :o
If you not happy abt Aristo small layout why not comparing with Bedok Residences 592 sq.ft layout or 16 @ Amber similar size layout or The Cape ? See how much better their layout compared to Aristo ?? U can misguide other people but u cant misguide people like me who have extensive knowledge of the industry.
If you not happy abt Aristo small layout why not comparing with Bedok Residences 592 sq.ft layout or 16 @ Amber similar size layout or The Cape ? See how much better their layout compared to Aristo ?? U can misguide other people but u cant misguide people like me who have extensive knowledge of the industry.
are u replying to the right person?
Haha talking about the sun, I think I am beginning to miss the sun. It has been raining in the afternoon especially for the past 1 month or so non stop. And the weather has been either hazy or gloomy. U think anybody will bother to care abt afternoon sun nowadays ?
Why dont you just check with the buyers of Meyerise and Aalto the 3 bedroom facing sea and the city ? Why are they paying above $2000psf for a high floor unit and yet facing full afternoon sun?? Probably they will just ignore your call.
U are just a typical Singaporean complaining about everything and anything just to make your case right. When actually u are just making a fool of yrself.
And with yr statement you are giving yrself away. U have so much interest in this development and as an agent I know u miss out in a good purchase of the bigger unit. Too bad chances dont come twice. If u keen u just need to buy from subsale history doesnt repeat again. I can help u finding a bigger sea facing unit (807 sq.ft or the penthouse units) but be prepared to pay $1600psf onwards ya depending on floor level
ha ha,thats where u are completely wrong..
i certainly did not miss out any chance in getting aristo..
i do like aristo's location but after viewing the layout of d units of the 4 stacks,all simply cmi imo.:doh:
the worst thing is this project is taking too long n slow to build..it was sold out 1Q 2009 (except d 2penthouses) n till now coming 3yrs already,the lone single tower is still in its skeleton stage 13 to 14 storeys only..
when aristo was launched,rose garden was still there n if u see the progress of construction now,shore residences is on par if not faster than aristo..what a joke,ha ha.:p :p
If you not happy abt Aristo small layout why not comparing with Bedok Residences 592 sq.ft layout or 16 @ Amber similar size layout or The Cape ? See how much better their layout compared to Aristo ?? U can misguide other people but u cant misguide people like me who have extensive knowledge of the industry.
u can kiss yr aristo goodbye liao..
it will drop to 1000psf when it t.o.p next year.
maybe @ 1000 psf i will consider getting despite the poor layout of the units there..:cheers4:
thomastansb
10-12-11, 00:48
I can't imagine you saying this kind of crap. No one want shops? Huh? Those people staying at Orchard how? Don't we see a trend whereby prices are higher with MRT + Shopping Mall?? What are you talking?
Haha thats funny...is that a joke or wat ?? I cant see high class owners wanting to stay in a condo with shops below it. It sounds like a HDB with shops below...even that lifestyle some HDB owners also dont like..they want more privacy and prefer a standalone HDB without any shops below it.
thomastansb
10-12-11, 00:50
Maybe go up till 10,000 psf also. You know, talk without facts = bullshit. And that is you.
Show me the 1.5k psf first. Transacted, not asking. I can ask for 10k psf but never sell also teh lan pa at home.
Already while you guys are talking, Aristo transaction prices have already crept up even before TOP.
The last 2 units sold recently a 614 sq.ft not facing sea and the worst layout is selling at $1372 psf while a mid floor 711 sq.ft just close at $1420 psf.
It wont be long when u see $1500 psf coming up before TOP for sure. Once TOP, it will breeze past $1700 psf.
Hope u guys still here yah for me to blast u. I bet its the same pathetic guy who has multiple nicknames who are making the same noise on Aristo. Or should i call him August, Fiat, Thomastan etc.
I ask everyone in this forum does it make sense that a guy can make so much negative judgments on a condo and yet has so much knowledge of this development then claims that he has no interest in this condo development ???? If he has no interest, he wont spend a lot of his time submitting opinions here that wont benefit him at all.
thomastansb
10-12-11, 00:54
Now already people not interested to buy Aristo. No transaction at all. Soon, sellers will be more realistic. 1.1 to 1.2k psf also accept. No MRT, no shopping mall, no view (pocket maybe), inaccessible, boutique sized, CMI layout, I wouldn't be surprised if the price drop. We know what will happen to boutique condos in a few years time as compared to big condo like Esta/One Amber.
u can kiss yr aristo goodbye liao..
it will drop to 1000psf when it t.o.p next year.
maybe @ 1000 psf i will consider getting despite the poor layout of the units there..:cheers4:
Now already people not interested to buy Aristo. No transaction at all. Soon, sellers will be more realistic. 1.1 to 1.2k psf also accept. No MRT, no shopping mall, no view (pocket maybe), inaccessible, boutique sized, CMI layout, I wouldn't be surprised if the price drop. We know what will happen to boutique condos in a few years time as compared to big condo like Esta/One Amber.
'DREAMING, I MUST BE DREAMING' - I must sing this 1970s song to u....u can continue dreaming.
Whatever u say wont change the fact that Aristo is strategically located at a prime district 15 area, close to the city and the seaview is reasonably good. In addition, this development is freehold and its near to ameneties like shopping malls, eateries, big splash (food joints) and bus stop. In addition, next year the government will announce the construction of the eastern regional mrt line which will link Amber to Airport and the city centre by one mrt line.
And bear in mind ya, if you can still buy Aristo at $1500 psf when its TOP next year, u are considered very very lucky. Cause i am expecting at least $1700psf onwards for its low floor units to $2300psf for the high floor sea view units. All the luck.
After reading your last paragraph,i almost wana puke..:tongue3:
u can kiss goodbye to yr aristo even hitting 1300psf the next few years ..:cheers5:
I have read all the post in this thread and cant wait to see whether aristo will hit 1700 Psf after TOP. Maybe it will be 1700 Psf after TOP but that is what agents and owners are asking for and just tat few rich person who have unlimited money will maybe buy it but it does not mean tat aristo actually worth 1700psf. Agents like shawn will just keep marking up the price but any crisis happened, he will have no choice but to lower the Psf. Again all this are just assumption by him, we will wait till it TOP.
Just my personal opinion,a newbie with no property just hobby in looking at condos.
After reading your last paragraph,i almost wana puke..:tongue3:
u can kiss goodbye to yr aristo even hitting 1300psf the next few years ..:cheers5:
I have read all the post in this thread and cant wait to see whether aristo will hit 1700 Psf after TOP. Maybe it will be 1700 Psf after TOP but that is what agents and owners are asking for and just tat few rich person who have unlimited money will maybe buy it but it does not mean tat aristo actually worth 1700psf. Agents like shawn will just keep marking up the price but any crisis happened, he will have no choice but to lower the Psf. Again all this are just assumption by him, we will wait till it TOP.
Just my personal opinion,a newbie with no property just hobby in looking at condos.
All I can say is that the $1500psf mark is easily breached for the Aristo. There is already a buyer offering a mid floor unit 808 sq.ft facing the sea at 1550psf but the owner rejected as he wants to sell at $1650psf. And this is not the only offers that I have heard of for The Aristo which are above $1500psf.
The only transactions that are recorded on the URA website are for the 614 sq.ft units which have zero seaview and has not much facing as its directly blocked by the upcoming The Cape. And certainly this facing will call a much much lower psf. The highest recorded so far for this 614 sq.ft layout is $1410 psf.
My bet Aristo will breach $1600 when its TOP and will breach $1500psf very very soon in the next few months. If you guys hoping it will drop to $1000psf then you should consider singing Karen Carpenter song 'Dreaming, I must be Dreaming'.
Good luck guys.
thomastansb
15-01-12, 00:56
Talk is cheap. In fact, it is worthless. Anyone can say someone offer $10,000 psf but owner rejected. So easy to say that. Luckily URA come up with the transaction details. If not, many agents can say someone offer 10k psf but owner rejected.
something is wrong with the developer of aristo..:doh:
until now its only like halfway through with the construction despite being launched in 2008..
so many other projects launched later have been completed with owners n tenants staying in already.
aristo is just a lone single tower of 56 units only.:doh:
I fully agree Aristo will be able to cross $1800 even for the worst unit given the good location. It is located on the best location in district 15, with shopping malls, food, sea, cinema..... all within walking distance. Good location is most important for investment. There will always be demand in this area. Even if you have a big house but bad location, there will be no demand for it.
something is wrong with the developer of aristo..:doh:
until now its only like halfway through with the construction despite being launched in 2008..
so many other projects launched later have been completed with owners n tenants staying in already.
aristo is just a lone single tower of 56 units only.:doh:
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I fully agree Aristo will be able to cross $1800 even for the worst unit given the good location. It is located on the best location in district 15, with shopping malls, food, sea, cinema..... all within walking distance. Good location is most important for investment. There will always be demand in this area. Even if you have a big house but bad location, there will be no demand for it.
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Obviously a doppleganger...
All I can say is that the $1500psf mark is easily breached for the Aristo. There is already a buyer offering a mid floor unit 808 sq.ft facing the sea at 1550psf but the owner rejected as he wants to sell at $1650psf. And this is not the only offers that I have heard of for The Aristo which are above $1500psf.
The only transactions that are recorded on the URA website are for the 614 sq.ft units which have zero seaview and has not much facing as its directly blocked by the upcoming The Cape. And certainly this facing will call a much much lower psf. The highest recorded so far for this 614 sq.ft layout is $1410 psf.
My bet Aristo will breach $1600 when its TOP and will breach $1500psf very very soon in the next few months. If you guys hoping it will drop to $1000psf then you should consider singing Karen Carpenter song 'Dreaming, I must be Dreaming'.
Good luck guys.
Good news to all Aristo owners. I have just closed a 807 sq.ft unit for $1,260,000 i.e. approximately $1560 psf. This unit is above 10th floor but below 13. In addition, another agent has also closed a 646 sq.ft low floor last month for $1480 psf.
Another unit 807 sq.ft above 14th floor a foreign buyer offered $1.3 million but owner rejected as he is looking at $1670 psf roughly around $1.35 million and negotiation is still ongoing.
So, all those sourgrapes here can probably see Aristo crossing $1600psf soon when its closer to TOP. My bet is the lousy units (614 sq.ft) will see average psf starting from $1500psf - 1650 psf, whereas the good seaview units (646, 711, 807 sq.ft) will see average psf starting from $1600psf - 2000psf depending on floor level. Apparently those units at 15th floor and above can ask for the sky.
This is achievable as similar developments like Suites @ Amber, which is even older and less prestigious are already transacting at $1550psf, so as the new development 16 @ Amber which is smaller development with little seaview transacting at average $1600-1800psf.
Aristo can call higher just by looking at its strategic location making it an icon of the whole of Amber Road against the backdrop of the newly refurbished and beautiful Chinese Swimming Club which will be completed in Sep 2012. It is not located too close to other residential buildings if u compared with other developments as its beside the beautiful swimming club and a low profile Indian community/meditation club.
Before long, the government will announce the commencement of a new Eastern Regional MRT Line with Amber being one of the main station. So do u think price will drop ??? Amber is expensive not because of speculators but because of its prime location which has been traditionally known by real estate developers as well as owners alike.
With the completion of the new Marina East Coastal Expressway next year, new mrt line announcement, and the myriad of shopping malls around this area make Amber/Meyer a much desirable place to live, second to none.
Next Far East and a foreign developer will announce the launch of 3 new developments near Amber (old Amber Tower, old bungalow opposite Parkway, and Amberglades) sometime this year or next year. They bought these sites at above $1400psf so to breakeven they need to sell above $1800psf. These sites are not prime sites and dont really offer a good seaview compared to Aristo existing site. But the location calls a price. Like it or not its a reality.
something is wrong with the developer of aristo..:doh:
until now its only like halfway through with the construction despite being launched in 2008..
so many other projects launched later have been completed with owners n tenants staying in already.
aristo is just a lone single tower of 56 units only.:doh:
Come back later in June and see the progress. Developer targets TOP by 3rd quarter this year. They have done up the 4th floor onwards and left the lower floors last as they need to do the conserve building touch up which will take roughly 6 months from now. The reason is you cant see cause its covered.
There is nothing wrong with this developer. It is known for quality workmanship in its other projects. I am impressed with its new project at The Verve near Jalan Rajah which is about to TOP. The Aristo project is its signature prestigious project and I am not surprised if they take longer time to complete it and gives a further finishing touch.
Come back later in June and see the progress. Developer targets TOP by 3rd quarter this year. They have done up the 4th floor onwards and left the lower floors last as they need to do the conserve building touch up which will take roughly 6 months from now. The reason is you cant see cause its covered.
There is nothing wrong with this developer. It is known for quality workmanship in its other projects. I am impressed with its new project at The Verve near Jalan Rajah which is about to TOP. The Aristo project is its signature prestigious project and I am not surprised if they take longer time to complete it and gives a further finishing touch.
i dont think so...this project is definitely taking longer than expected although the black n white is stated its gona t.o.p somewhere in 2013.
only a lone single tower of 56 units launched in 2008 n its still halfway through in construction now..:doh: :doh: come to think of it,its coming to 4 yrs already..
similar projects like this will take about 1.5 yrs for other developers to complete..
Good news to all Aristo owners. I have just closed a 807 sq.ft unit for $1,260,000 i.e. approximately $1560 psf. This unit is above 10th floor but below 13. In addition, another agent has also closed a 646 sq.ft low floor last month for $1480 psf.
Another unit 807 sq.ft above 14th floor a foreign buyer offered $1.3 million but owner rejected as he is looking at $1670 psf roughly around $1.35 million and negotiation is still ongoing.
So, all those sourgrapes here can probably see Aristo crossing $1600psf soon when its closer to TOP. My bet is the lousy units (614 sq.ft) will see average psf starting from $1500psf - 1650 psf, whereas the good seaview units (646, 711, 807 sq.ft) will see average psf starting from $1600psf - 2000psf depending on floor level. Apparently those units at 15th floor and above can ask for the sky.
This is achievable as similar developments like Suites @ Amber, which is even older and less prestigious are already transacting at $1550psf, so as the new development 16 @ Amber which is smaller development with little seaview transacting at average $1600-1800psf.
Aristo can call higher just by looking at its strategic location making it an icon of the whole of Amber Road against the backdrop of the newly refurbished and beautiful Chinese Swimming Club which will be completed in Sep 2012. It is not located too close to other residential buildings if u compared with other developments as its beside the beautiful swimming club and a low profile Indian community/meditation club.
Before long, the government will announce the commencement of a new Eastern Regional MRT Line with Amber being one of the main station. So do u think price will drop ??? Amber is expensive not because of speculators but because of its prime location which has been traditionally known by real estate developers as well as owners alike.
With the completion of the new Marina East Coastal Expressway next year, new mrt line announcement, and the myriad of shopping malls around this area make Amber/Meyer a much desirable place to live, second to none.
Next Far East and a foreign developer will announce the launch of 3 new developments near Amber (old Amber Tower, old bungalow opposite Parkway, and Amberglades) sometime this year or next year. They bought these sites at above $1400psf so to breakeven they need to sell above $1800psf. These sites are not prime sites and dont really offer a good seaview compared to Aristo existing site. But the location calls a price. Like it or not its a reality.
dont be misled here..seaview is only pocket seaview which is stack 2 looking towards the right side..there's no panoramic seaview here.
stack 1 is mainly blocked by silversea in front..
the other 2 stacks which is 3 n 4 is facing NW :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: looking towards amber residences n esta..
u judge yourself..:cheers6:
all condos in amber very very congested and cluttered. seaview... well if you turn your head right or left sure see neighbouring projects. aalto is way better in terms of view I guess. ultimate in terms of view needless to say will still be silver sea.
Jonathan0503
06-02-12, 12:33
all condos in amber very very congested and cluttered. seaview... well if you turn your head right or left sure see neighbouring projects. aalto is way better in terms of view I guess. ultimate in terms of view needless to say will still be silver sea.
Amberpoint would be another one with great view. And it's freehold
dont be misled here..seaview is only pocket seaview which is stack 2 looking towards the right side..there's no panoramic seaview here.
stack 1 is mainly blocked by silversea in front..
the other 2 stacks which is 3 n 4 is facing NW :simmering: :simmering: :simmering: looking towards amber residences n esta..
u judge yourself..:cheers6:
Actually the view should be pretty ok. I was scouting around the area and was taking a few pics of the various devpts. If you look at this pic. The left side of Aristo just clears the rightmost block of Silversea so it will probably have at least 70 to 90deg angle of unobstructed views of the sea from the playground all the way to barrage.
http://www.myalbum.com/Foto-D8PLK78M-1.jpg
Did you see there is a large empty plot of land between silversea and aristo? :scared-3:
Actually the view should be pretty ok. I was scouting around the area and was taking a few pics of the various devpts. If you look at this pic. The left side of Aristo just clears the rightmost block of Silversea so it will probably have at least 70 to 90deg angle of unobstructed views of the sea from the playground all the way to barrage.
http://www.myalbum.com/Foto-D8PLK78M-1.jpg
Actually the view should be pretty ok. I was scouting around the area and was taking a few pics of the various devpts. If you look at this pic. The left side of Aristo just clears the rightmost block of Silversea so it will probably have at least 70 to 90deg angle of unobstructed views of the sea from the playground all the way to barrage.
http://www.myalbum.com/Foto-D8PLK78M-1.jpg
there's no panoramic seaview here..seaview will only be limited to 1 side only which is on the right..
but that also might not last long cos the empty plot of land in front would not be left empty in the near future..:cheers6:
Did you see there is a large empty plot of land between silversea and aristo? :scared-3:
Heard that it is slated for low rise/underground devpts linked to MRT. Was told that a certain property conglomerate tried to buy that plot to amalgamate with their devpt but was turned down. They had to settle for another plot instead (no prizes for guessing who) but still went ahead with the inferior plot because they have also heard rumours on the ground about some exciting devpts due to sprout up around that vicinity. Note that the owner of that state land plot in front of Aristo/Cape is HDB and not URA.
Not that I am trying to defend Aristo but don't think it will be impacted that much. Even if I am wrong and a residential block crops up, the developer will try to angle his building at an oblique way (see how Amber residences is angled) to try to capture the max seaview so its unlikely that Aristo will be impacted. Think the cape will bear the full brunt of that block if it ever comes up.
there's no panoramic seaview here..seaview will only be limited to 1 side only which is on the right..
but that also might not last long cos the empty plot of land in front would not be left empty in the near future..:cheers6:
As above, it will not be a stupendous view but imho will definitely be better than the Seaview which will be crowded out by Cote d'Azure, Silversea, the Cape and Aristo.
I have no great love for the Aristo project as I think the layout is not that great (altho' I have frankly seen worse) but am just trying to be un-bias in my observation
I was actually looking at quite a few apts around that area and have come up with the following observations:
1. Silversea (Great views & facilities but really ex and 99yr leasehold and probably loads of traffic noise)
2. The Seaview - Nice environment and facilities, FH but no views or only pockets of seaview, rooms are kinda small
3. Cote D'Azur, nice view & facilities but 99yrs LH and layout not that ideal. Large balconies too.
4. The amber stretch (The Cape, Aristo, seaview pt, 11 amber to Amber pt).
Cape - no view but great finishes
Aristo - layout not good but with some seaview
11 Amber, great view but layout v funny with large balconies, small rooms and funny carpark.
Seaview pt and Amber pt are FH and have good views (prefer the seaview pt view over Amber pt as the flyover kinda spoils the view for Amber pt). Both however are looking their age and seem quite tired.
There are two old devtps there which are never on sale as its probly due to enbloc.
NOTE :There is also a huge plot of state land in front of the Amber stretch from Amber Pt all the way to Seaview Pt.
Have not considered or look at any of the other apts on the other side of Amber as it is unlikely that they will enjoy any significant seaview.
Will be widening my search to Meyer next but prices go up significantly (Aalto !!!)
Heard that it is slated for low rise/underground devpts linked to MRT. Was told that a certain property conglomerate tried to buy that plot to amalgamate with their devpt but was turned down. They had to settle for another plot instead (no prizes for guessing who) but still went ahead with the inferior plot because they have also heard rumours on the ground about some exciting devpts due to sprout up around that vicinity. Note that the owner of that state land plot in front of Aristo/Cape is HDB and not URA.
Not that I am trying to defend Aristo but don't think it will be impacted that much. Even if I am wrong and a residential block crops up, the developer will try to angle his building at an oblique way (see how Amber residences is angled) to try to capture the max seaview so its unlikely that Aristo will be impacted. Think the cape will bear the full brunt of that block if it ever comes up.
As above, it will not be a stupendous view but imho will definitely be better than the Seaview which will be crowded out by Cote d'Azure, Silversea, the Cape and Aristo.
I have no great love for the Aristo project as I think the layout is not that great (altho' I have frankly seen worse) but am just trying to be un-bias in my observation
it might even be the mrt track built above ground running across it...nobody knows!
whatever all being said or u heard are all rumours,there's no truth in it yet!
it could also be a high rise development there in the near future..
whether hdb,lta,pub or era owns the piece of land does not make a difference cos it goes back to the same a/c at the end of the day..:47:
NOTE :There is also a huge plot of state land in front of the Amber stretch from Amber Pt all the way to Seaview Pt.
Have not considered or look at any of the other apts on the other side of Amber as it is unlikely that they will enjoy any significant seaview.
Will be widening my search to Meyer next but prices go up significantly (Aalto !!!)
There are hearsays that almost the entire stretch of East Coast Parkway will be reclaimed. This is either to increase Singapore land size or to prevent the entire East Coast Parkway from sinking due to raising sea level. Any sea views that we may be enjoying now will be gone in the years to come.
Did you see there is a large empty plot of land between silversea and aristo? :scared-3:
Sourgrapes always have things to comment about as usual but as I mentioned The Aristo has already crossed $1550psf in its latest transaction for the 807 sq.ft unit. The last shown on URA caveat is for the 646 sq.ft (Stack 3) unit low floor which has been transacted at $1480psf. Please check if you dont believe me.
Judging by the usual trend prior to TOP, The Aristo should have another appreciation of 20-30% from its highest psf prior to TOP. If we take $1500psf as the average last, this would translate to an estimated $1800-$2000psf on average after 6-12 months TOP date. This is not surprising as The Aristo is located on the best site in that Amber Road stretch. Its situated just across and beside the newly refurbished Chinese Swimming Club as well as a small meditational temple which are both low floors. As such, The Aristo becomes an iconic building in the whole stretch of Amber Road due to its relatively larger space between buildings and its strategic location.
Between Silversea and The Aristo, there will be the construction of a new road cutting into both. Silversea will have a back exit/entrance, so as The Cape and The Aristo. The new road itself will take up quite a bit of space and its highly unlikely there will be any new development stacked between these 2 buildings. Very highly likely is a park, an empty garden stretch or a possible entrance to a new mrt line, or a carpark for visitors as most new condos here dont have enough parking space. Even if there were to be a new condo, it wouldnt affect the seaview for Stack 2 and 3 at The Aristo, except for Stack 1 and 4.
If that plot of land has been empty for more than 50 years since the old HUDC apartment there, what in the world are u hallucinating about ?? A new HDB block or condo stacked in the middle of nowhere?? Anyway, price of new condos are expensive in Amber not because of seaview but the good location near to beach and other ameneties (shopping, schools etc).
And with regards to The Aristo seaview, I have managed to go up personally to the club floor on the 14th storey, and I know what I am talking about. Stack 2 and 3 have the best views as the sea stretches from the old Bigsplash to Fort Road, and its quite a generous seaview. In addition, these stacks also have good city views from a small angle. Needless to say, if your unit is above the club house floor, the view will be spectacular. You cannot compare The Aristo seaview with The Seaview, The Cape, One Amber, The Esta, Amber Residences, Suites @ Amber, 16 @ Amber seaviews cause The Aristo seaview is much much better. But The Aristo seaview is definitely not as good as Silversea or The Aalto, but its good enough to generate buyer interest.
i dont think so...this project is definitely taking longer than expected although the black n white is stated its gona t.o.p somewhere in 2013.
only a lone single tower of 56 units launched in 2008 n its still halfway through in construction now..:doh: :doh: come to think of it,its coming to 4 yrs already..
similar projects like this will take about 1.5 yrs for other developers to complete..
Haha good job u seem to be monitoring this development very closely. I am glad to know this. If you interested to buy any unit in The Aristo please let me know here I will be glad to assist u.
Just to correct u. The construction of The Aristo started officially only in late 2009. The showflat was open for almost a year in late 2008 to late 2009. The reason for the slight delay in completion is due to the longer time needed to build the foundation, as The Aristo is located very near to the sea, and its used to be a beach front area if u remembered how close the old Chinese Swimming Club were to the beach. In addition, much time need to be allocated towards the conservation of the old house in front of The Aristo while the foundation work is taking place. Its not as easy as u think.
In addition, this developer is known for quality workmanship. I went to see 2 of its newly built developments and I can say I am impressed. As this developer seems to offer much better quality and workmanship compared to bigger developers in Singapore. As such, obviously it will take longer to complete.
All i can say time will tell if I telling the truth. Lets keep in touch here after June.
there's no panoramic seaview here..seaview will only be limited to 1 side only which is on the right..
but that also might not last long cos the empty plot of land in front would not be left empty in the near future..:cheers6:
Whatever u smoking about, the reality is clear that that location is expensive and u cannot change that. Perhaps you should ask those buyers of Meyerise who bought units facing the city or low floors why are they paying $1700psf on average for a ZERO sea view ????
And dont forget that there will be 2 new launches in the Amber Road area alone, all 2 are freehold locations with seaview not as good as The Aristo. Far East and a Chinese JV developer bought them (Amber Tower & Amberglade) enbloc at an average of $1400psf and to breakeven they need to sell above $1750psf. So i can easily assume a target $1900-2000psf price to make a small profit.
Do u smell something fishy here?? Why are they paying high price for this location? Is there an interesting development coming up nearby ?? Hahah for u to find out yrself.
Why sourgrape? Bought a subsale in 2008 instead of aristo. It has completed & appreciated by more than 70% with a rental yield of 6%.
Sourgrapes always have things to comment about as usual but as I mentione& apreciated by more than 70%. Now enjoying 6% rental yield. aristo is still not completed & price has gone down when i saw it then.d The Aristo has already crossed $1550psf in its latest transaction for the 807 sq.ft unit. The last shown on URA caveat is for the 646 sq.ft (Stack 3) unit low floor which has been transacted at $1480psf. Please check if you dont believe me.
Judging by the usual trend prior to TOP, The Aristo should have another appreciation of 20-30% from its highest psf prior to TOP. If we take $1500psf as the average last, this would translate to an estimated $1800-$2000psf on average after 6-12 months TOP date. This is not surprising as The Aristo is located on the best site in that Amber Road stretch. Its situated just across and beside the newly refurbished Chinese Swimming Club as well as a small meditational temple which are both low floors. As such, The Aristo becomes an iconic building in the whole stretch of Amber Road due to its relatively larger space between buildings and its strategic location.
Between Silversea and The Aristo, there will be the construction of a new road cutting into both. Silversea will have a back exit/entrance, so as The Cape and The Aristo. The new road itself will take up quite a bit of space and its highly unlikely there will be any new development stacked between these 2 buildings. Very highly likely is a park, an empty garden stretch or a possible entrance to a new mrt line, or a carpark for visitors as most new condos here dont have enough parking space. Even if there were to be a new condo, it wouldnt affect the seaview for Stack 2 and 3 at The Aristo, except for Stack 1 and 4.
If that plot of land has been empty for more than 50 years since the old HUDC apartment there, what in the world are u hallucinating about ?? A new HDB block or condo stacked in the middle of nowhere?? Anyway, price of new condos are expensive in Amber not because of seaview but the good location near to beach and other ameneties (shopping, schools etc).
And with regards to The Aristo seaview, I have managed to go up personally to the club floor on the 14th storey, and I know what I am talking about. Stack 2 and 3 have the best views as the sea stretches from the old Bigsplash to Fort Road, and its quite a generous seaview. In addition, these stacks also have good city views from a small angle. Needless to say, if your unit is above the club house floor, the view will be spectacular. You cannot compare The Aristo seaview with The Seaview, The Cape, One Amber, The Esta, Amber Residences, Suites @ Amber, 16 @ Amber seaviews cause The Aristo seaview is much much better. But The Aristo seaview is definitely not as good as Silversea or The Aalto, but its good enough to generate buyer interest.
Why sourgrape? Bought a subsale in 2008 instead of aristo. It has completed & appreciated by more than 70% with a rental yield of 6%.
Aristo first owners who bought during the launch will see a 100% capital appreciation and a rental income of almost 8% when this project TOP in the 3rd quarter this year. So you lose out for not buying hahaha
Are you going to give a money-back guarantee if this does not happen. I was quoted $1700psf during the preview. 100% percentage capital repayment means $3400psf. Are you ok?
Aristo first owners who bought during the launch will see a 100% capital appreciation and a rental income of almost 8% when this project TOP in the 3rd quarter this year. So you lose out for not buying hahaha
Whatever u smoking about, the reality is clear that that location is expensive and u cannot change that. Perhaps you should ask those buyers of Meyerise who bought units facing the city or low floors why are they paying $1700psf on average for a ZERO sea view ????
And dont forget that there will be 2 new launches in the Amber Road area alone, all 2 are freehold locations with seaview not as good as The Aristo. Far East and a Chinese JV developer bought them (Amber Tower & Amberglade) enbloc at an average of $1400psf and to breakeven they need to sell above $1750psf. So i can easily assume a target $1900-2000psf price to make a small profit.
Do u smell something fishy here?? Why are they paying high price for this location? Is there an interesting development coming up nearby ?? Hahah for u to find out yrself.
looks like the whole discussion is repeating itself over n over again..
i am firm on my stance on aristo! the location is good but the project itself sucks big time imo cos of very poor layout n living space..balconies n bay windows taking up large chunks of your living area..not sure about the partial sea view though cos there's empty plot of land right in front..:tongue3:
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V slow projt ....cant fight with verte.
By the time it top, bank lock in 3yr also over ....
V slow projt ....cant fight with verte.
By the time it top, bank lock in 3yr also over ....
Mezzo launched later than Aristo n now it's already t.o.p.
After reading your last paragraph,i almost wana puke..:tongue3:
u can kiss goodbye to yr aristo even hitting 1300psf the next few years ..:cheers5:
$1300 psf for Aristo ?? Do yr homework it has already hit $1550psf recently just waiting to get listed on URA. The last listed transaction was for a low floor at $1480 psf. Most owners are asking all above $1500psf with some up to $2000psf. There are lots of enquiries and offers around $1500-1520psf but owners for the high floors rejected these offers, otherwise my job to sell would be easier.
Btw, are u the guy who complained about afternoon sun for Aristo ?? I am just wondering where did the sun go for the past few weeks ? Seem like it has been raining all the while since September. So for now, afternoon or morning sun facing doesnt really matter anymore.
There are hearsays that almost the entire stretch of East Coast Parkway will be reclaimed. This is either to increase Singapore land size or to prevent the entire East Coast Parkway from sinking due to raising sea level. Any sea views that we may be enjoying now will be gone in the years to come.
Well what u said is completely untrue. This is because the government has just closed the old McDonald's and East Coast Leisure Park area for refurbishment. They plan to open up an even bigger entertainment area there to cater to Singaporeans.
What I know is that there is a massive plan to rejuvenate the East Coast with new chalets, and a proposed new beach along Fort Road. If you refer to URA site the government has already broken up the land around Fort Road and Marina East into smaller sites for tender and redevelopment. One major contact I had even mentioned that the government planned to open tender for a 3rd IR around the Marina East area (Fort Road) which is the last land parcel located in front of the beach (sea). So get ready, prime District 15 from Marine Parade end to Meyer Road will be the next up and coming area.
Otherwise, how do you explain the billion dollar in investments on the Marina Coastal Expressway which should be completed in 2013 ?? Obviously new and more interesting developments coming yr way.
Well what u said is completely untrue. This is because the government has just closed the old McDonald's and East Coast Leisure Park area for refurbishment. They plan to open up an even bigger entertainment area there to cater to Singaporeans.
What I know is that there is a massive plan to rejuvenate the East Coast with new chalets, and a proposed new beach along Fort Road. If you refer to URA site the government has already broken up the land around Fort Road and Marina East into smaller sites for tender and redevelopment. One major contact I had even mentioned that the government planned to open tender for a 3rd IR around the Marina East area (Fort Road) which is the last land parcel located in front of the beach (sea). So get ready, prime District 15 from Marine Parade end to Meyer Road will be the next up and coming area.
Otherwise, how do you explain the billion dollar in investments on the Marina Coastal Expressway which should be completed in 2013 ?? Obviously new and more interesting developments coming yr way.
This is hearsay was from people who were closely working at ground level. It could be true or just at the drawing board stage. This government is always planning 30 to 50 years ahead. I have heard many times at ground level that raising sea level is a real concern and thus the need to raise or extend the coastal areas. East Coast being densely populated is a real concern. Remember, the sea was just next to The Seaview many many years ago?
devilplate
21-03-12, 10:37
Otherwise, how do you explain the billion dollar in investments on the Marina Coastal Expressway which should be completed in 2013 ?? Obviously new and more interesting developments coming yr way.
second tat
hold tight tight if u got ppty ard it :D
devilplate
21-03-12, 10:38
This is hearsay was from people who were closely working at ground level. It could be true or just at the drawing board stage. This government is always planning 30 to 50 years ahead. I have heard many times at ground level that raising sea level is a real concern and thus the need to raise or extend the coastal areas. East Coast being densely populated is a real concern. Remember, the sea was just next to The Seaview many many years ago?
wif regards to global warming issues and ever rising sea level.....the only way is to build DAM surround the whole SG!
nxt nxt generation might just witness it happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do u guys realise our temperature increase quite a fair bit over the last decade.....NO JOKE!
wif regards to global warming issues and ever rising sea level.....the only way is to build DAM surround the whole SG!
nxt nxt generation might just witness it happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do u guys realise our temperature increase quite a fair bit over the last decade.....NO JOKE!
HAha build dam around entire SG will bring floods to neighboring countries
devilplate
21-03-12, 10:45
HAha build dam around entire SG will bring floods to neighboring countries
did u read the report on thailand/philippines? smthing like 30-50% of their land will be submerged by water by next century.....or isit 50yrs.....scary rite
i wonder how long can our mother earth withstand? when is the end of the world?
oh ya, realised sentosa will be gone first ......those expensive sentosa coastal homes.....LOL
Its ok la, 50 years later we're halfway out of this earth already... hopefully to better living standard....
$1300 psf for Aristo ?? Do yr homework it has already hit $1550psf recently just waiting to get listed on URA. The last listed transaction was for a low floor at $1480 psf. Most owners are asking all above $1500psf with some up to $2000psf. There are lots of enquiries and offers around $1500-1520psf but owners for the high floors rejected these offers, otherwise my job to sell would be easier.
Btw, are u the guy who complained about afternoon sun for Aristo ?? I am just wondering where did the sun go for the past few weeks ? Seem like it has been raining all the while since September. So for now, afternoon or morning sun facing doesnt really matter anymore.
The overcast weather is only temporary but the facing is permanent n you cant change that,sooner or later the hot n sunny weather will be back..hahahahahahahahahaha:cheers5:
The overcast weather is only temporary but the facing is permanent n you cant change that,sooner or later the hot n sunny weather will be back..hahahahahahahahahaha:cheers5:
I am bit of a geography idiot... Global warming leads to more heat or more rain?? Temperatures rise, sea levels rise, doesnt that mean more rain gets formed, results in flooding and rising sea level vicious cycle... More heat begets more water produces more rain clouds?
I am bit of a geography idiot... Global warming leads to more heat or more rain?? Temperatures rise, sea levels rise, doesnt that mean more rain gets formed, results in flooding and rising sea level vicious cycle... More heat begets more rain produces more rain clouds?
U forgotten the ice shelves at the poles.
Jonathan0503
22-03-12, 13:24
I am bit of a geography idiot... Global warming leads to more heat or more rain?? Temperatures rise, sea levels rise, doesnt that mean more rain gets formed, results in flooding and rising sea level vicious cycle... More heat begets more water produces more rain clouds?
Actually quite true.
Have been seeing more and more rains in the afternoon. So maybe west facing not such a big issue anymore
The overcast weather is only temporary but the facing is permanent n you cant change that,sooner or later the hot n sunny weather will be back..hahahahahahahahahaha:cheers5:
To be honest I have been missing the hot sun already. Wonder when we will have hot weather again cause its been raining for months...
So I personally felt, units with afternoon sun doesnt really bother or make a big issue as last time. In fact, one day, units with afternoon sun will be highly desirable as we get less and lesser sun with the climatic change. So those with sun facing will be highly appreciated especially by foreigners who like to skin deep and tan.
To be honest I have been missing the hot sun already. Wonder when we will have hot weather again cause its been raining for months...
So I personally felt, units with afternoon sun doesnt really bother or make a big issue as last time. In fact, one day, units with afternoon sun will be highly desirable as we get less and lesser sun with the climatic change. So those with sun facing will be highly appreciated especially by foreigners who like to skin deep and tan.
Thats what u think but i beg to differ..like i said this overcast weather is not permanent,soon the hot, humid n sunny weather will be back in no time..this time it will be even much hotter than before due to global warming.
The caucasians like the sunlight but not our humid weather.
Majority will not be keen to rent or buy a west facing unit..
You may want to do some research on climate change before commenting on it. Get the facts right. ;)
To be honest I have been missing the hot sun already. Wonder when we will have hot weather again cause its been raining for months...
So I personally felt, units with afternoon sun doesnt really bother or make a big issue as last time. In fact, one day, units with afternoon sun will be highly desirable as we get less and lesser sun with the climatic change. So those with sun facing will be highly appreciated especially by foreigners who like to skin deep and tan.
Thats what u think but i beg to differ..like i said this overcast weather is not permanent,soon the hot, humid n sunny weather will be back in no time..this time it will be even much hotter than before due to global warming.
The caucasians like the sunlight but not our humid weather.
Majority will not be keen to rent or buy a west facing unit..
Whatever it is, it is a fact that it has been raining for the past 6 months more than there was sun. Even if there is sun, there are always ways to protect from excessive heat for eg. install awning, window films, or double glaze windows to lower down the heat. Alternatively, one can place tall plants to hinder from facing direct sunlight at strategic locations in the house or at the balcony.
Anything is possible. Just ask the buyers of Aalto and Meyer Rise why they still paying $2000psf for afternoon facing units ?? Their answers - cause its the best facing with sea and city views.
As an agent for more than 15 years, I dont see the sun as a major selling obstacle. More obstacle are units with no or lousy facing - i.e. no views. You can see many of these units in suburban areas facing another condo or HDB block, or facing schools or dirty rivers. They offer no investment values.
Aristo, Aalto, The Cape and Meyerise are fine limited freehold developments very close to amenities, shopping, seaside, transport and yet close to the city. They can never go wrong. The only ones who say these condos are no values are people who cant afford to buy them and so badmouthing them - such a futile effort.
Whatever it is, it is a fact that it has been raining for the past 6 months more than there was sun. Even if there is sun, there are always ways to protect from excessive heat for eg. install awning, window films, or double glaze windows to lower down the heat. Alternatively, one can place tall plants to hinder from facing direct sunlight at strategic locations in the house or at the balcony.
Anything is possible. Just ask the buyers of Aalto and Meyer Rise why they still paying $2000psf for afternoon facing units ?? Their answers - cause its the best facing with sea and city views.
As an agent for more than 15 years, I dont see the sun as a major selling obstacle. More obstacle are units with no or lousy facing - i.e. no views. You can see many of these units in suburban areas facing another condo or HDB block, or facing schools or dirty rivers. They offer no investment values.
Aristo, Aalto, The Cape and Meyerise are fine limited freehold developments very close to amenities, shopping, seaside, transport and yet close to the city. They can never go wrong. The only ones who say these condos are no values are people who cant afford to buy them and so badmouthing them - such a futile effort.
10 years series statement from a snake oil saleman! I wonder why do agents advertise "no morning/afternoon sun"? Maybe is to take up the space in the advertising space....
devilplate
29-03-12, 15:52
afternoon sun not a major obstacle provided the unit got superb views to compensate.....if not it is a SUPER MAJOR FLAW :p
Whatever it is, it is a fact that it has been raining for the past 6 months more than there was sun. Even if there is sun, there are always ways to protect from excessive heat for eg. install awning, window films, or double glaze windows to lower down the heat. Alternatively, one can place tall plants to hinder from facing direct sunlight at strategic locations in the house or at the balcony.
Anything is possible. Just ask the buyers of Aalto and Meyer Rise why they still paying $2000psf for afternoon facing units ?? Their answers - cause its the best facing with sea and city views.
As an agent for more than 15 years, I dont see the sun as a major selling obstacle. More obstacle are units with no or lousy facing - i.e. no views. You can see many of these units in suburban areas facing another condo or HDB block, or facing schools or dirty rivers. They offer no investment values.
Aristo, Aalto, The Cape and Meyerise are fine limited freehold developments very close to amenities, shopping, seaside, transport and yet close to the city. They can never go wrong. The only ones who say these condos are no values are people who cant afford to buy them and so badmouthing them - such a futile effort.
the front stacks of stack 1 n 2 are the only stacks with seaview n they are pocketed seaview only due to silversea n cote d azur blockage.
the other 2 west facing stacks of stack 3 n 4 do not have much views as they are directly facing amber residences.
whatever u installed (blinds,window films etc) to block out the heat n glare from the west sun would not help much. u will cut down the glare but the heat is still there.
the worst thing is it will darken up the house..:cheers4:
Freaking hot sun in march,
Should be until sep ....
Prepared for scorching heat
Freaking hot sun in march,
Should be until sep ....
Prepared for scorching heat
See below for my reply
Freaking hot sun in march,
Should be until sep ....
Prepared for scorching heat
Yup its March now and its still raining. Today its still raining...The scorching heat doesnt seem to be here yet after half a year of rain and gloomy weather..
By the time the sun comes, the haze will also come and block the sun hahaha.
As an agent, I dont see afternoon sun a major issue for luxury and prime location properties. Its only an issue for HDB dwellers and typical Singaporeans buying low end condos who only try to find reasons or excuses to bring down prices. These tactics dont sell anymore in Singapore. Maybe 10 years ago yes but not now....
the front stacks of stack 1 n 2 are the only stacks with seaview n they are pocketed seaview only due to silversea n cote d azur blockage.
the other 2 west facing stacks of stack 3 n 4 do not have much views as they are directly facing amber residences.
whatever u installed (blinds,window films etc) to block out the heat n glare from the west sun would not help much. u will cut down the glare but the heat is still there.
the worst thing is it will darken up the house..:cheers4:
I thought the sun brighten up the whole house instead of darkening it ?? This is a very strange statement. Some people like the sun facing cause the unit will be brighter instead of a dark (no sun facing) unit. Btw u seem to know a bit about The Aristo. I can bet u have some interest in this development.
If u keen to buy let me know i got a few units on hand...Buy now before the price goes up further. Last transaction was for $1550psf for the 807 sq.ft mid floor. Stack 1, 2 and 3 have reasonably good seaviews stretching from Big Splash to Fort Road. At the same time, Stack 2 and 3 have good city views too on the right side. Stack 4 is the only one without much seaviews but just a small pocket of sea between the gaps in Silversea. I know much much more than u cause I got recent live photos taken from the mid floor of the uncompleted building.
The Aristo sea view is still much much better than The Cape, Seaview, One Amber, The Esta, The Shore, Amber Residences...I can bet with my 15 years experience as an agent putting my reputation at stake. All those condos I mentioned are not selling cheap as u know. So I can bet when The Aristo TOP it will fetch a new benchmark in psf price for that location. Already The Cape has transacted at $2000psf, so The Aristo will be there soon.
And The Aristo developer is giving quality furnishes. Just saw some of the accessories they use for the toilet its amazing. They using specialised TOTO bathroom accessories from Japan. And they using 60cm x 60cm marble slab for the living and kitchen area. And solid teak wood flooring for the rooms. The bath tub is also custom made with marble tiles it looks hotel like. And the window pane is huge unlike those at Silversea.
My sincere advise to all who keen on Aristo. Buy now before its too late. It wont be that price ($1500-1600psf) anymore in 3 months from now...Lets meet here in July and see if I saying the truth k. Good luck.
I thought the sun brighten up the whole house instead of darkening it ?? This is a very strange statement. Some people like the sun facing cause the unit will be brighter instead of a dark (no sun facing) unit. Btw u seem to know a bit about The Aristo. I can bet u have some interest in this development.
If u keen to buy let me know i got a few units on hand...Buy now before the price goes up further. Last transaction was for $1550psf for the 807 sq.ft mid floor. Stack 1, 2 and 3 have reasonably good seaviews stretching from Big Splash to Fort Road. At the same time, Stack 2 and 3 have good city views too on the right side. Stack 4 is the only one without much seaviews but just a small pocket of sea between the gaps in Silversea. I know much much more than u cause I got recent live photos taken from the mid floor of the uncompleted building.
The Aristo sea view is still much much better than The Cape, Seaview, One Amber, The Esta, The Shore, Amber Residences...I can bet with my 15 years experience as an agent putting my reputation at stake. All those condos I mentioned are not selling cheap as u know. So I can bet when The Aristo TOP it will fetch a new benchmark in psf price for that location. Already The Cape has transacted at $2000psf, so The Aristo will be there soon.
And The Aristo developer is giving quality furnishes. Just saw some of the accessories they use for the toilet its amazing. They using specialised TOTO bathroom accessories from Japan. And they using 60cm x 60cm marble slab for the living and kitchen area. And solid teak wood flooring for the rooms. The bath tub is also custom made with marble tiles it looks hotel like. And the window pane is huge unlike those at Silversea.
My sincere advise to all who keen on Aristo. Buy now before its too late. It wont be that price ($1500-1600psf) anymore in 3 months from now...Lets meet here in July and see if I saying the truth k. Good luck.
FEO acquired Amber Glades for about $1050 psf ppr in Mar 2011 and is not redeveloping the site yet. The break even for the new project at the site is about $1500 to $1600 psf. If FEO is confident with The Cape now selling for $1800 to $2000 psf, why is FEO not redeveloping the Amber Glades site? Was told that FEO intends to lease out the existing units at Amber Glades within the next quarter. It is certainly not a good sign to buy now.
Jonathan0503
01-04-12, 11:52
FEO acquired Amber Glades for about $1050 psf ppr in Mar 2011 and is not redeveloping the site yet. The break even for the new project at the site is about $1500 to $1600 psf. If FEO is confident with The Cape now selling for $1800 to $2000 psf, why is FEO not redeveloping the Amber Glades site? Was told that FEO intends to lease out the existing units at Amber Glades within the next quarter. It is certainly not a good sign to buy now.
If the reason the developer is not launching new sites is because price is quite depressed, isn't it a good time to buy now?
If the reason the developer is not launching new sites is because price is quite depressed, isn't it a good time to buy now?
For developers to lease out their en bloc purchased units instead of redeveloping the sites they acquired hold memories of 1997 when many developers did the same thing. Is this the start of the cycle?
We can go ahead and and buy now if we believe FEO is delaying the redevelopment of the site for better prices two to three years down the road. Alternatively, FEO may think that the market is likely to be depressed for the next two years and leasing make more sense now.
From all angles, the latter seems to be the likely case.
FEO acquired Amber Glades for about $1050 psf ppr in Mar 2011 and is not redeveloping the site yet. The break even for the new project at the site is about $1500 to $1600 psf. If FEO is confident with The Cape now selling for $1800 to $2000 psf, why is FEO not redeveloping the Amber Glades site? Was told that FEO intends to lease out the existing units at Amber Glades within the next quarter. It is certainly not a good sign to buy now.
Any developer can lease their enbloc property but they can only do so for up to a maximum of 5 years before they are forced to start launching new development. That is Singapore's law
And Far East is doing a good thing if they were to lease the development cause they are holding this precious land for future launches and Far East is expecting the market to recover big time in 2-3 years from now.
As an agent, I got tonnes and tonnes of enquiries especially from foreigners who are keen to buy property in Singapore. Some are now contemplating of buying property despite the ABSD regulation as now these foreigners are even willing to hold out their properties for long term gain. This shows how confident foreigners are with our local property market. The ABSD also brings added level of stability to the property prices in Singapore.
Those who lack confidence are the locals who try to bring down their own local market to benefit themselves. In 1998-2003, the property bust happens but its unlikely to repeat again now. Simple reasons being Asia is no longer like Asia of 10 years ago. Asia is more resilient, better managed, and lots of cash inflows. What I can only see is further appreciation of property prices but at a gradual pace. This year will see a slowdown but next year the momentum will pick up. Dont expect a 20%-30% decline in property prices, it wont happen. My bet is just a max of 10%-15% in the worst case scenario and then the market will go on an upturn again.
FEO acquired Amber Glades for about $1050 psf ppr in Mar 2011 and is not redeveloping the site yet. The break even for the new project at the site is about $1500 to $1600 psf. If FEO is confident with The Cape now selling for $1800 to $2000 psf, why is FEO not redeveloping the Amber Glades site? Was told that FEO intends to lease out the existing units at Amber Glades within the next quarter. It is certainly not a good sign to buy now.
Amber Glades site is not a good site honestly speaking as its blocked by few condos all around it with little or no seaview. In addition, it is too close to the busy main road and the bus stop. Its not a good comparison with The Aristo which is sited at one of the best site away from the busy main road but yet close to the bus stop, shopping mall, sea, and other amenities. In addition, Aristo offered a better seaview than the Amberglade site.
Aristo is right in front of the swimming club and next to the future Amber mrt station. It can never go wrong.
Amber Glades site is not a good site honestly speaking as its blocked by few condos all around it with little or no seaview. In addition, it is too close to the busy main road and the bus stop. Its not a good comparison with The Aristo which is sited at one of the best site away from the busy main road but yet close to the bus stop, shopping mall, sea, and other amenities. In addition, Aristo offered a better seaview than the Amberglade site.
Aristo is right in front of the swimming club and next to the future Amber mrt station. It can never go wrong.
Ha ha dont anyhow make assumption that I m keen on Aristo..definitely i m not.
I do agree the location is good but the project itself SUCKs really big time,sad to say.
The layouts of all the 4stacks are terrible,baywindows everywhere,planter boxes n excessive balconies eating up yr living space indoor..only pocketed seaview for front 2stacks,the other 2back WEST facing stacks are looking directly@ amber residences.
Minimum small facilities with no parking space for yr guest inside n outside.
All these negative features are enough to deter my interest.
there is no news on where the mrt station would b built,there is no such thing as amber mrt till its in black n white..
Amber Glades site is not a good site honestly speaking as its blocked by few condos all around it with little or no seaview. In addition, it is too close to the busy main road and the bus stop. Its not a good comparison with The Aristo which is sited at one of the best site away from the busy main road but yet close to the bus stop, shopping mall, sea, and other amenities. In addition, Aristo offered a better seaview than the Amberglade site.
Aristo is right in front of the swimming club and next to the future Amber mrt station. It can never go wrong.
Do not be fooled by all d salesman talk..obviously he has many units on hand n he's having a tough time disposing it.
Hahahahahahahahaha wahahahahaha
Do not be fooled by all d salesman talk..obviously he has many units on hand n he's having a tough time disposing it.
Hahahahahahahahaha wahahahahaha
Could not agree with you more.
A good portion of the Amber Glades site is right in front of the Chinese Swimming Club which is low rise. Thus, the site has better sea view than Amber Residence or Aristo.
FEO acquired Amber Glades before the CM5, so they are not bound to build and sell the new development within the 5 yrs period.
Prices are at 20-year high and not inline with income. This is both a social and political problem which the government is trying to address. Thus far, results are beginning to show with huge supply of discounted BTO flats and private land sales. More things are expected to come.
bro shawn, how many units u own in the area? got buy 5-6 units or not? if not u help so many pple become potential millionaire for what? your property commission so little compared to the potential returns u can make in a few months by buying a few units. Stop helping pple u can pick up a few units yourself and make the $500 psf range when the mrt news is confirm.
btw no offence, really, when i call your adverisement for viewing in D15. Dont tell me west sun doesnt matter k. Cos i m spending the $$$ to buy, i should decided if west sun matter ; ) Till then good luck with your sales.
thomastansb
04-04-12, 21:42
The layout is really :doh:
The layout is really :doh:
seriously bro, i m lost for words!!
Read a few post. Can I safely assume this project is good for sun lovers who like to bake in the sun? While living in a smallish appt. spending most of the time in the balcony? what about the pool? any pool? Can beat Mountbatten suits Pool?
V v hot sun .... Cant stand it.
West sun unit .....it a daily sauna.
Sure can slim down
Read a few post. Can I safely assume this project is good for sun lovers who like to bake in the sun? While living in a smallish appt. spending most of the time in the balcony? what about the pool? any pool? Can beat Mountbatten suits Pool?
A bit weird for neighbours and neighbouring projects to see you sunbathing in your balcony right - I mean, if you have nice physique they will have hard time not to look... On the other hand if your physique sucks they will have to draw their curtains from the eye sore... Lol. Coz they not expecting to see such 'things' when their unit not facing the pool.
i was really bothered by unethical snake oil salesman claiming west sun is not an issue when buying a million $$ apartment.
I used to stay in a flat facing west sun and I can honestly said 4-7pm is the worst timing. Temperature increase by at least 3-5 deg.
You are right if you look at this data:
http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m356/DC33_2008/SolarRadiationE_W_facade.jpg
LOOK AT THE SOLAR RADIATION AND SOL-AIR TEMPERATURE ON THE WEST FACADE.:tsk-tsk:
i was really bothered by unethical snake oil salesman claiming west sun is not an issue when buying a million $$ apartment.
I used to stay in a flat facing west sun and I can honestly said 4-7pm is the worst timing. Temperature increase by at least 3-5 deg.
It can get worse if there is a lot of glass in the facade/windows...
It can get worse if there is a lot of glass in the facade/windows...
doesn't matter cos u will start to draw Ur curtain at 3pm. The lack of wind increases the heat, basically like an oven if you don't on the a/c.
i'm sure no agent would arrange a viewing at 3-6pm for a west sun apartment for the above reason.
doesn't matter cos u will start to draw Ur curtain at 3pm. The lack of wind increases the heat, basically like an oven if you don't on the a/c.
i'm sure no agent would arrange a viewing at 3-6pm for a west sun apartment for the above reason.
Ya,nobody would b so silly to do it..maybe only that snake oil salesman 'shxxx' would do it...hahahaha
thomastansb
09-04-12, 00:22
Glass is not so bad. When you have a wall facing the west sun, your room is like a mini sauna for the rest of the night.
And west sun is a big issue when people look for own stay.
i was really bothered by unethical snake oil salesman claiming west sun is not an issue when buying a million $$ apartment.
I used to stay in a flat facing west sun and I can honestly said 4-7pm is the worst timing. Temperature increase by at least 3-5 deg.
No 1 rule of buying house in Singapore, NO WEST SUN, unless you are in European country. Then change to NO 1 rule of buying HOUSE, MUST FACE WEST SUN.
Glass is worst as it enables short-wave radiation from the sun to enter the room and it will become long-wave radiation that will be trapped within the room. Heat will build up and absorb into the wall due to the high thermal mass of the blockwall. In the night, it will re-radiate into the room. :)
Glass is not so bad. When you have a wall facing the west sun, your room is like a mini sauna for the rest of the night.
And west sun is a big issue when people look for own stay.
thomastansb
09-04-12, 10:56
Make sense. A bit of west sun is fine (maybe 30 degree at most) but direct is like oven. No way I am going to get something with direct west sun.
Glass is worst as it enables short-wave radiation from the sun to enter the room and it will become long-wave radiation that will be trapped within the room. Heat will build up and absorb into the wall due to the high thermal mass of the blockwall. In the night, it will re-radiate into the room. :)
Make sense. A bit of west sun is fine (maybe 30 degree at most) but direct is like oven. No way I am going to get something with direct west sun.
Sounds like from someone who is very bitter and unable to get an Aristo unit, as such he is badmouthing this development badly with the hope that owners will sell at a discount to him.
Vague hope...already Sky Habitat selling at $1700psf for a 99 year leasehold. Aristo is a freehold development and superior location and with seaview fronting, and ameneties within a short distance, much less a city drive 10 minutes away, and an MRT station about to jut out nearby in 5 years time. Seems like Aristo will come to $2000psf anytime soon.
When they announce the new mrt line, Aristo and neighboring condos will shoot up 20-30% more from here. Dont believe me just wait, watch and see. In 6 months time, Aristo TOP hope u guys still here to post your comments.
No 1 rule of buying house in Singapore, NO WEST SUN, unless you are in European country. Then change to NO 1 rule of buying HOUSE, MUST FACE WEST SUN.
There is hardly any sun for the past 6 months in Singapore. Its mostly rain in the afternoon. So the sun is no big deal. In addition, one can install awning, put plants, or install window films to protect from intense sunrays.
As such, having sun facing is no longer a liability.
No 1 rule of buying house in Singapore, NO WEST SUN, unless you are in European country. Then change to NO 1 rule of buying HOUSE, MUST FACE WEST SUN.
Btw same guy THOMASTAN using all kinds of nick names here i.e. daytona, fiat, zone etc etc and post messages on the very same day and time to discredit The Aristo, what a pathetic fool.
Btw same guy THOMASTAN using all kinds of nick names here i.e. daytona, fiat, zone etc etc and post messages on the very same day and time to discredit The Aristo, what a pathetic fool.
There's nothing to discredit.what's mentioned are actual facts of the project itself.
who would b so free to bother to have multiple names here to post their views n opinions?this is only a forum.
There is hardly any sun for the past 6 months in Singapore. Its mostly rain in the afternoon. So the sun is no big deal. In addition, one can install awning, put plants, or install window films to protect from intense sunrays.
As such, having sun facing is no longer a liability.
Shawn,
You are using 6 months of wet weather to convince west sun is not an issue? Might as well tell us that there will be snowfall in the late afternoon for the next 6 years!
Hard selling is ok but exaggerate hard selling by distorting the fact displayed your professionalism.
Shawn,
You are using 6 months of wet weather to convince west sun is not an issue? Might as well tell us that there will be snowfall in the late afternoon for the next 6 years!
Hard selling is ok but exaggerate hard selling by distorting the fact displayed your professionalism.
Yup btw its too late to buy The Aristo at bargain price as of today. 5 of my sellers decided to withdraw from selling their units. Now I am only left with 4 units at The Aristo for sale and all looking above $1550psf minimum.
My bet is Aristo will cross $2000psf anytime after TOP. Already Katong Regency at Geylang Serai area asking for $1700psf onwards...and mind u how do u compare prime Amber location with Geylang Serai (or TK road) ??
I just saw the end result of Aristo..it really looks posh n furnishing high class. How I know ? Dont ask cause I got access to their units even before TOP. And their seaview is good enough to bring in millions of dollar purchases..
Guess for those who badmouthing Aristo, they will be gone shortly in 3 months time. Dont believe just wait and see.
Far East will be launching the 2 Amber developments for more than 2000psf and these are not as good facing as the Aristo. Fulcrum launching at 1800psf onwards. Katong Regency (Geylang Serai) average 1600psf.
My sincere congrats to all buyers of Aristo who have managed to grab a unit there below $1500psf. This psf price will be gone for good.
Yup btw its too late to buy The Aristo at bargain price as of today. 5 of my sellers decided to withdraw from selling their units. Now I am only left with 4 units at The Aristo for sale and all looking above $1550psf minimum.
My bet is Aristo will cross $2000psf anytime after TOP. Already Katong Regency at Geylang Serai area asking for $1700psf onwards...and mind u how do u compare prime Amber location with Geylang Serai (or TK road) ??
I just saw the end result of Aristo..it really looks posh n furnishing high class. How I know ? Dont ask cause I got access to their units even before TOP. And their seaview is good enough to bring in millions of dollar purchases..
Guess for those who badmouthing Aristo, they will be gone shortly in 3 months time. Dont believe just wait and see.
Far East will be launching the 2 Amber developments for more than 2000psf and these are not as good facing as the Aristo. Fulcrum launching at 1800psf onwards. Katong Regency (Geylang Serai) average 1600psf.
My sincere congrats to all buyers of Aristo who have managed to grab a unit there below $1500psf. This psf price will be gone for good.
tsk tsk tsk! still trying so hard to promote aristo! my hats off to u..:doh:
cant sell just say cant sell lah,make up story telling us your sellers decided to withdraw selling their units...i bet there was not even a single offer.
hahahahahahahahaha :rolleyes:
thomastansb
18-04-12, 21:35
You are stupid.
Btw same guy THOMASTAN using all kinds of nick names here i.e. daytona, fiat, zone etc etc and post messages on the very same day and time to discredit The Aristo, what a pathetic fool.
just check URA, from jul 2011 to dec 2011, 5 caveats lodged, all below 1500.
dear all Shawn doubters,
Shawn is a damn good agent. He has principles.
I read Freakonomics.
It said that real estate agents would act in their own interest rather than owners' interest.
for example, Shawn could have told his sellers that Aristo psf is 1500. his commission would be 1500 x 614 x 1% = $9210. the seller would get 1500 x 614 = $921,000.
instead he forgo that 9210 so that his seller would get 2000x614=1228000
the difference to shawn is only $3070 in commission, the difference to owners is $307000, a big difference.
Dear fellow forummers, how many agent have you known that act in owners' interest?
Shawn is one. seller is oaying him the commission so he act in seller's interest instead of the buyer or HIS OWN.
i believe from all your experiences that your agent that have represented you so far would rather have 1 bird in hand rather than 2 in the bush.
ie would sell Aristo at $1500 instead of 2000psf.
NOW we get the full picture abt his posting of mrt station around amber rd ----- blah - blah - blah - eventually it come back to promoting Aristo and probably trying to off load the "babies" by creating some sensational news abt FE pushing prices to 2k etc ....lol
confirm agent talk!
NOW we get the full picture abt his posting of mrt station around amber rd ----- blah - blah - blah - eventually it come back to promoting Aristo and probably trying to off load the "babies" by creating some sensational news abt FE pushing prices to 2k etc ....lol
confirm agent talk!
but he is good agent, acting in the interest of the owners.
Shawn has no obligation to us forummers, but he has obligation to the Aristo sellers.
What's wrong with that?
dear all Shawn doubters,
Shawn is a damn good agent. He has principles.
I read Freakonomics.
It said that real estate agents would act in their own interest rather than owners' interest.
for example, Shawn could have told his sellers that Aristo psf is 1500. his commission would be 1500 x 614 x 1% = $9210. the seller would get 1500 x 614 = $921,000.
instead he forgo that 9210 so that his seller would get 2000x614=1228000
the difference to shawn is only $3070 in commission, the difference to owners is $307000, a big difference.
Dear fellow forummers, how many agent have you known that act in owners' interest?
Shawn is one. seller is oaying him the commission so he act in seller's interest instead of the buyer or HIS OWN.
i believe from all your experiences that your agent that have represented you so far would rather have 1 bird in hand rather than 2 in the bush.
ie would sell Aristo at $1500 instead of 2000psf.
say till sky drop down. if so good , just buy 5 unit himself, then sell at 2k can le lah. Somemore he dont mind west sun, the units are perfect for him. in 6 months he can sell 5x500x614+ 5x1% comm= millionaire in 6 mths. Just sign can le, so troublesome advertise for what.
D15 can haut. Strong indian demand there. The layout, westsun is no no for me personally. but for pple whom just need an address, pls call shawn to support him. Cos u know in future he will hardcore push sales for u also. $2500 for the next seller.
but he is good agent, acting in the interest of the owners.
Shawn has no obligation to us forummers, but he has obligation to the Aristo sellers.
What's wrong with that?
Bla Bla Bla...whatever it is, I just dropped by at East Village showroom. They sold almost all the condo units except for a 3 bedroom penthouse. Average psf at 1500psf for this freehold development located at Langgar Bedok (Bedok Road). Can u believe it ? That location for $1500psf ???
thomastansb
19-04-12, 11:27
They have MRT with a small mall below.
Bla Bla Bla...whatever it is, I just dropped by at East Village showroom. They sold almost all the condo units except for a 3 bedroom penthouse. Average psf at 1500psf for this freehold development located at Langgar Bedok (Bedok Road). Can u believe it ? That location for $1500psf ???
thomastansb
19-04-12, 11:32
Haha. Ya, agree. If so confident can hit 2k psf, why don't buy himself. Just like those gold traders. Say gold will hit 2.5k when it was at 1.9k. But then reality sank in and people realise gold is not worth that much.
I still don't understand the logic of Bishan or some blah blah blah can sell 2k psf. Mine can sell 1.8k psf. I don't see Icon selling at 2 million when Altez was selling their loft at that price.
say till sky drop down. if so good , just buy 5 unit himself, then sell at 2k can le lah. Somemore he dont mind west sun, the units are perfect for him. in 6 months he can sell 5x500x614+ 5x1% comm= millionaire in 6 mths. Just sign can le, so troublesome advertise for what.
D15 can haut. Strong indian demand there. The layout, westsun is no no for me personally. but for pple whom just need an address, pls call shawn to support him. Cos u know in future he will hardcore push sales for u also. $2500 for the next seller.
Bla Bla Bla...whatever it is, I just dropped by at East Village showroom. They sold almost all the condo units except for a 3 bedroom penthouse. Average psf at 1500psf for this freehold development located at Langgar Bedok (Bedok Road). Can u believe it ? That location for $1500psf ???
typical agents picking other expensive projects to justify their own projects.
I still don't understand the logic of Bishan or some blah blah blah can sell 2k psf. Mine can sell 1.8k psf. I don't see Icon selling at 2 million when Altez was selling their loft at that price.
you pointed out a very good observation.
Yup btw its too late to buy The Aristo at bargain price as of today. 5 of my sellers decided to withdraw from selling their units. Now I am only left with 4 units at The Aristo for sale and all looking above $1550psf minimum.
My bet is Aristo will cross $2000psf anytime after TOP. Already Katong Regency at Geylang Serai area asking for $1700psf onwards...and mind u how do u compare prime Amber location with Geylang Serai (or TK road) ??
I just saw the end result of Aristo..it really looks posh n furnishing high class. How I know ? Dont ask cause I got access to their units even before TOP. And their seaview is good enough to bring in millions of dollar purchases..
Guess for those who badmouthing Aristo, they will be gone shortly in 3 months time. Dont believe just wait and see.
Far East will be launching the 2 Amber developments for more than 2000psf and these are not as good facing as the Aristo. Fulcrum launching at 1800psf onwards. Katong Regency (Geylang Serai) average 1600psf.
My sincere congrats to all buyers of Aristo who have managed to grab a unit there below $1500psf. This psf price will be gone for good.
obviously he's talking rubbish! how could he have seen the end result? or maybe in his dreams?
aristo is still in its skeleton stage of 11 storeys only out of total of 17 floors.
still long long way to go.
the whole construction project is fully netted up n impossible to gain entry..even if u manage to sneak in or u disguise yourself as a construction worker,i doubt u will dare to climb up the fully exposed steps.:scared-3:
anyway,there's nothing to see also except concrete!:cheers6:
Yap, i agreed with fiat500...
Pass by amber everyday .. ..it still all netted up.
Built juz 1 block take v long
Silversea and shore are progressing faster
And afternoon sun is v hot.
I think for renov ,int design, any wall paper and paint for
[email protected] peel and fade.
Intense sunlight, salty air .....what a combo..
Maybe juz do cement screed, that v lasting and rugged
QUOTE=fiat500]obviously he's talking rubbish! how could he have seen the end result? or maybe in his dreams?
aristo is still in its skeleton stage of 11 storeys only out of total of 17 floors.
still long long way to go.
the whole construction project is fully netted up n impossible to gain entry..even if u manage to sneak in or u disguise yourself as a construction worker,i doubt u will dare to climb up the fully exposed steps.:scared-3:
anyway,there's nothing to see also except concrete!:cheers6:[/QUOTE]
Wow glad to know there are lot of interests in The Aristo. Just one remark made by me here can get more than 5 replies. Isnt it just amazing hahaha.
I am just being honest but people dont seem to trust honest opinion nowadays. Anyway, I am just an agent selling condos, no gains or losses from promoting or degrading a particular condo launch. If u guys cant take it, then dont have to. Buy whatever u think is a good investment including Katong Regency if u like. No one is preventing u from doing that.
All the best.
Wow glad to know there are lot of interests in The Aristo. Just one remark made by me here can get more than 5 replies. Isnt it just amazing hahaha.
I am just being honest but people dont seem to trust honest opinion nowadays. Anyway, I am just an agent selling condos, no gains or losses from promoting or degrading a particular condo launch. If u guys cant take it, then dont have to. Buy whatever u think is a good investment including Katong Regency if u like. No one is preventing u from doing that.
All the best.
Don't b mistaken,its not the interest in the Aristo.
the response are actually meant to rebutt u.
Ha ha ha ha ha...
thomastansb
24-04-12, 10:08
To give a fair judgement, the location is fine. Not fantastic but still alright. But the layout is :doh:
thomastansb
24-04-12, 10:17
See for yourself. 711 sq ft already like this. Those 600+ sq ft how?
You can't even put a single bed properly (3 feet bed, the smallest single bed available btw). You turn left/right, your face hit the window. And you can't open the window without walking up your bed because there isn't enough space between the bed and the wall. What a joke.
Look at the master bedroom. Should I cross from one end to the other end by walking up my bed? Good exercise btw.
The worst is the planter + balcony. Did you see that? Planter surrounding balcony. I rather they use the space for the rooms. It is not as if the rooms are damn spacious but of course, we know what planters, BW, balcony are used for :)
This is not something that I bullshit. For example, people can say I got 2k psf offer but owner don't want to sell. Crap. As if people will believe the nonsense. This is the hard truth. The exact floor plan. Pure facts. People can see, can touch. Unlike some imaginary cheques that someone received.
http://www.virtualhomes.sg/FileUpload/Project/2582/Images/floor_typeA.jpg
all from:
http://www.virtualhomes.sg/thearisto@amber
:)
To give a fair judgement, the location is fine. Not fantastic but still alright. But the layout is :doh:
another one is devonshire residences... :doh:
See for yourself. 711 sq ft already like this. Those 600+ sq ft how?
You can't even put a single bed properly (3 feet bed, the smallest single bed available btw). You turn left/right, your face hit the window. And you can't open the window without walking up your bed because there isn't enough space between the bed and the wall. What a joke.
Look at the master bedroom. Should I cross from one end to the other end by walking up my bed? Good exercise btw.
The worst is the planter + balcony. Did you see that? Planter surrounding balcony. I rather they use the space for the rooms. It is not as if the rooms are damn spacious but of course, we know what planters, BW, balcony are used for :)
This is not something that I bullshit. For example, people can say I got 2k psf offer but owner don't want to sell. Crap. As if people will believe the nonsense. This is the hard truth. The exact floor plan. Pure facts. People can see, can touch. Unlike some imaginary cheques that someone received.
Thats not the only layout available at The Aristo. It has 808 sq.ft and 646 sq.ft layouts which are better than the 700 sq.ft layout. Obviously, this guy called Thomastan, which is also called by a few other names, has an interest in this development being able to scan out the layout and even knows the sun facing etc of The Aristo. If a person has no interest in a particular development, he wont even bother to know too much on this development.
Well Thomas, you can try to discredit a condo but facts will always remain facts. The Aristo layout is still much better than many new developments coming up recently. Have u seen Katong Regency layouts and other smaller developments ?? They are worst with even bigger planter and balcony area, and big aircon ledge for a smaller 580 sq.ft.
To give a fair judgement, the location is fine. Not fantastic but still alright. But the layout is :doh:
Hahaha u make me laugh ! 'Location is fine not fantastic'. Yeah right...try to convince this to yourself k for not purchasing Aristo. I dont need you to convince other people whether the location is fine. Cause the location speaks for itself.
Its a perfect location in District 15 just 100 metres away from Parkway Parade and Katong I12, 50 metres away from the east coast beach and the food joints near big splash, just 2km away from city through ECP and the up and coming Marina Coastal Expressway. In addition, its located just beside Chinese Swimming Club which is undergoing a major refurbishment. An mrt station is coming up soon within walking distance by 2018. How do u define this ?? Location is fine but still alright...haha wat a loser.
Go find yourself another freehold location similar to Aristo with similar psf price.
When silver sea is top the round about there will be more jam than anything. This place are all getting too dense to live.
Hahaha u make me laugh ! 'Location is fine not fantastic'. Yeah right...try to convince this to yourself k for not purchasing Aristo. I dont need you to convince other people whether the location is fine. Cause the location speaks for itself.
Its a perfect location in District 15 just 100 metres away from Parkway Parade and Katong I12, 50 metres away from the east coast beach and the food joints near big splash, just 2km away from city through ECP and the up and coming Marina Coastal Expressway. In addition, its located just beside Chinese Swimming Club which is undergoing a major refurbishment. An mrt station is coming up soon within walking distance by 2018. How do u define this ?? Location is fine but still alright...haha wat a loser.
Go find yourself another freehold location similar to Aristo with similar psf price.
Makena! Any time bigger n more peaceful . 1150psf! Cheap big n good! FH too!
See for yourself. 711 sq ft already like this. Those 600+ sq ft how?
You can't even put a single bed properly (3 feet bed, the smallest single bed available btw). You turn left/right, your face hit the window. And you can't open the window without walking up your bed because there isn't enough space between the bed and the wall. What a joke.
Look at the master bedroom. Should I cross from one end to the other end by walking up my bed? Good exercise btw.
The worst is the planter + balcony. Did you see that? Planter surrounding balcony. I rather they use the space for the rooms. It is not as if the rooms are damn spacious but of course, we know what planters, BW, balcony are used for :)
This is not something that I bullshit. For example, people can say I got 2k psf offer but owner don't want to sell. Crap. As if people will believe the nonsense. This is the hard truth. The exact floor plan. Pure facts. People can see, can touch. Unlike some imaginary cheques that someone received.
Gosh so much balcony! Minus that n divide the price the psf is so high.!
Does anyone have any background in this developer? What other projects it did? How come take so long...
thomastansb
26-04-12, 22:38
I did not discredit. I said the facts. People have eyes to see the layout. I don't need to lie.
And also, don't compare with the worst. Unless you think Aristo is a project that has to be compared with the worst to look alright.
Thats not the only layout available at The Aristo. It has 808 sq.ft and 646 sq.ft layouts which are better than the 700 sq.ft layout. Obviously, this guy called Thomastan, which is also called by a few other names, has an interest in this development being able to scan out the layout and even knows the sun facing etc of The Aristo. If a person has no interest in a particular development, he wont even bother to know too much on this development.
Well Thomas, you can try to discredit a condo but facts will always remain facts. The Aristo layout is still much better than many new developments coming up recently. Have u seen Katong Regency layouts and other smaller developments ?? They are worst with even bigger planter and balcony area, and big aircon ledge for a smaller 580 sq.ft.
thomastansb
26-04-12, 22:48
Location is fine only. Good at best. Amenities are too far to walk and too near to drive/take bus, pretty inaccessible location - far to walk to bus stop, no MRT. Good side is near East Coast but that is about it.
And as I said, stop speculating about future MRT. You really CMI. Keep fantasizing about the fake 2000 psf cheques. Now fantasizing MRT in front of Aristo? Has the Government announced the MRT site? No wonder Government want to implement those measures. To keep agents like you from bullshitting. MRT site not confirm, talk cock sing song here. If you dare tell that to me in a showflat, I straight away write to CEA.
And lastly, 100m away from Parkway Parade and 112 Katong????????? It is because of agents like you that agents get a bad name for lying. 100m, prove it if you can.
Lastly, Aristo is selling at this price for a reason. Maybe it is not as good as you claimed. And no, I don't have interest in an unit with big planters surrounding balcony, many bay windows and no space to walk after you put a bed. These are all facts. I didn't lie like you did.
:tongue3::tongue3::tongue3:
Hahaha u make me laugh ! 'Location is fine not fantastic'. Yeah right...try to convince this to yourself k for not purchasing Aristo. I dont need you to convince other people whether the location is fine. Cause the location speaks for itself.
Its a perfect location in District 15 just 100 metres away from Parkway Parade and Katong I12, 50 metres away from the east coast beach and the food joints near big splash, just 2km away from city through ECP and the up and coming Marina Coastal Expressway. In addition, its located just beside Chinese Swimming Club which is undergoing a major refurbishment. An mrt station is coming up soon within walking distance by 2018. How do u define this ?? Location is fine but still alright...haha wat a loser.
Go find yourself another freehold location similar to Aristo with similar psf price.
thomastansb
26-04-12, 22:51
Forgot to ask you, what is so great about a revamped Chinese swimming club? Go there eat and shop? Or swim every weekend? Is it Aristo pool too small that you pointed out the swimming club is a plus point? Like selling HDB like this. Near swimming pool. Hahaha...
Seriously, what are you thinking?
Its a perfect location in District 15 just 100 metres away from Parkway Parade and Katong I12, 50 metres away from the east coast beach and the food joints near big splash, just 2km away from city through ECP and the up and coming Marina Coastal Expressway.
Aristo 100m to parkway? More like 500m.... google map say one.
Walking distance much much more than 50m to east coast beach.
Information not quite reliable leh:tsk-tsk: Credibility not quite there too....
thomastansb
26-04-12, 23:05
That is why the Government need to weed out these unscrupulous agents. He is in his own world with his own measuring tape.
I just used google map also. Guess what? 960m to 112 Katong - by walking. Almost 10 times the distance he quoted.
Looks like he is discrediting himself.
Aristo 100m to parkway? More like 500m.... google map say one.
Walking distance much much more than 50m to east coast beach.
Information not quite reliable leh:tsk-tsk: Credibility not quite there too....
That is why the Government need to weed out these unscrupulous agents. He is in his own world with his own measuring tape.
I just used google map also. Guess what? 960m to 112 Katong - by walking. Almost 10 times the distance he quoted.
Looks like he is discrediting himself.
Can sue him if we bought aristo based on his mis-information, that aristo is 100m to parkway and 50m to beach? He has to compensate us by finding and buying us a unit that truly complies with his information:confused:
Quick quick buy from him!:cheers4:
obviously he's talking rubbish! how could he have seen the end result? or maybe in his dreams?
aristo is still in its skeleton stage of 11 storeys only out of total of 17 floors.
still long long way to go.
the whole construction project is fully netted up n impossible to gain entry..even if u manage to sneak in or u disguise yourself as a construction worker,i doubt u will dare to climb up the fully exposed steps.:scared-3:
anyway,there's nothing to see also except concrete!:cheers6:
Haha few days ago they started to bring down the construction crane. What does it tell u when they bring down the construction crane ?? U are such a Big Fat Liar.
The Aristo has reached its top floor construction on 18th floor since January and now is doing its finishing touch. The only outstanding work is the conservation house, and the 1st and 2nd floor and the final parts of the penthouse floors.
Dont believe me go and check yrself..Please stop making false representations on other people's condo. Its not the right thing to do. The fact speaks for itself.
And now you saying I am lying when I said I gain access to Aristo even before its completed. I rest my case. You dont have to trust me, its up to u. I am just being honest in my opinion and what I see. People can choose to trust u who are obviously lying or poorly informed, or me who have years of experience in the real estate business.
You are not a reliable source for information. I rest my case. I wont be in this forum till June cause most people here are actually from the same person who use different nicknames. Its a waste of time entertaining such people who are liars, false info mongers and unreliable experts.
Hahaha u make me laugh ! 'Location is fine not fantastic'. Yeah right...try to convince this to yourself k for not purchasing Aristo. I dont need you to convince other people whether the location is fine. Cause the location speaks for itself.
Its a perfect location in District 15 just 100 metres away from Parkway Parade and Katong I12, 50 metres away from the east coast beach and the food joints near big splash, just 2km away from city through ECP and the up and coming Marina Coastal Expressway. In addition, its located just beside Chinese Swimming Club which is undergoing a major refurbishment. An mrt station is coming up soon within walking distance by 2018. How do u define this ?? Location is fine but still alright...haha wat a loser.
Go find yourself another freehold location similar to Aristo with similar psf price.
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thomastansb
27-04-12, 11:21
Oppps... Mr. 100 meters Pussy will be gone.... Maybe to buy a more accurate measuring tape... :D :D :D
Still can't get over it. 100 meters from Aristo to Parkway and 112 Katong. What a joke...
Haha few days ago they started to bring down the construction crane. What does it tell u when they bring down the construction crane ?? U are such a Big Fat Liar.
The Aristo has reached its top floor construction on 18th floor since January and now is doing its finishing touch. The only outstanding work is the conservation house, and the 1st and 2nd floor and the final parts of the penthouse floors.
Dont believe me go and check yrself..Please stop making false representations on other people's condo. Its not the right thing to do. The fact speaks for itself.
And now you saying I am lying when I said I gain access to Aristo even before its completed. I rest my case. You dont have to trust me, its up to u. I am just being honest in my opinion and what I see. People can choose to trust u who are obviously lying or poorly informed, or me who have years of experience in the real estate business.
You are not a reliable source for information. I rest my case. I wont be in this forum till June cause most people here are actually from the same person who use different nicknames. Its a waste of time entertaining such people who are liars, false info mongers and unreliable experts.
Haha few days ago they started to bring down the construction crane. What does it tell u when they bring down the construction crane ?? U are such a Big Fat Liar.
The Aristo has reached its top floor construction on 18th floor since January and now is doing its finishing touch. The only outstanding work is the conservation house, and the 1st and 2nd floor and the final parts of the penthouse floors.
Dont believe me go and check yrself..Please stop making false representations on other people's condo. Its not the right thing to do. The fact speaks for itself.
And now you saying I am lying when I said I gain access to Aristo even before its completed. I rest my case. You dont have to trust me, its up to u. I am just being honest in my opinion and what I see. People can choose to trust u who are obviously lying or poorly informed, or me who have years of experience in the real estate business.
You are not a reliable source for information. I rest my case. I wont be in this forum till June cause most people here are actually from the same person who use different nicknames. Its a waste of time entertaining such people who are liars, false info mongers and unreliable experts.
i reckon no point talking or debating with u anymore..
End of the day is the aristo is not a good project comimg from an investor point of view which is me..
Does anyone have any background in this developer? What other projects it did? How come take so long...
There is seriously something wrong about the developement of this project...
dont understand y they need 4yrs to build a lone single tower of 50+ units?
Till nw,there is still a long way to go from what i observed recently.
So many projects launched later than aristo hv alrdy t.o.p..
To name a few,projects like the mezzo, naturalis, parc seabreeze, kembangan suites ,etc...too many to name.
It beat the verte,which is Damn slow.....but also top
Hello,
Anyone can advise expected rental from the 614sf 2 bedroom unit, high floor?
Thanks.
Hello,
Anyone can advise expected rental from the 614sf 2 bedroom unit, high floor?
Thanks.
About sgd2000 @ most with the limited living space n almost direct west sun for this stack 4 unit if there are takers.:D
Should learn from koh brother, 6mth free stay
write a essay how hot the unit is
how crampy it is
how long to wait for urt car in mch carpk
And how long it take to top...v v v long
QUOTE=fiat500]About sgd2000 @ most with the limited living space n almost direct west sun for this stack 4 unit if there are takers.:D[/QUOTE]
Should learn from koh brother, 6mth free stay
write a essay how hot the unit is
how crampy it is
how long to wait for urt car in mch carpk
And how long it take to top...v v v long
QUOTE=fiat500]About sgd2000 @ most with the limited living space n almost direct west sun for this stack 4 unit if there are takers.:D[/QUOTE]
:D Hahahahahahahahahaha....damn funny
thomastansb
17-05-12, 21:43
No lah. Should be higher. Maybe 2.5k based on One Amber rental. The studio (570 sf) renting around 2.4 to 2.8k. So a 614 sq ft should be similar I guess.
About sgd2000 @ most with the limited living space n almost direct west sun for this stack 4 unit if there are takers.:D
No lah. Should be higher. Maybe 2.5k based on One Amber rental. The studio (570 sf) renting around 2.4 to 2.8k. So a 614 sq ft should be similar I guess.
alamak...u dont get it! :banghead:
About sgd2000 @ most with the limited living space n almost direct west sun for this stack 4 unit if there are takers.:D
Direct west sun is stack 3. Stack 4 is north.
No lah. Should be higher. Maybe 2.5k based on One Amber rental. The studio (570 sf) renting around 2.4 to 2.8k. So a 614 sq ft should be similar I guess.
So East Coast Park area for rental yield is no good. The Cape's studio is selling $950k above and at most 2.8k rental which is 3.5%. Comparing with Optima's current transacted price of $700k also 2.8k rental which is 4.8% yield, Optima is a better choice with lower quantum? I thought staying in Amber road with sea, shopping malls and cinema nearby should command premium rental?
The studios in Alexis in Queenstown with not much amenities are asking for 3.2k. In term of distance to town/CBD, both are quite similar, within 15mins drive. But for amenities, leisure and environment, amber road is much better, I wonder the reason for Queenstown higher rental?
Mrt effect for both Optima and Alexis.
I hv a 2BR at Amber rented at 5.5k unfurnished, north-south facing though with no west sun. But the angmoh tenant I have wasn't particular abt the facing at all, all he wanna know is there's laundry service at PP, and east coast park is just a few min's walk away. He also mentioned abt having his fellow country folks and community staying around the area at Seaview and Esta
thomastansb
18-05-12, 10:14
MRT. Properties near MRT (within 5 mins walk) are known to command rental of 20 to 30% higher.
So East Coast Park area for rental yield is no good. The Cape's studio is selling $950k above and at most 2.8k rental which is 3.5%. Comparing with Optima's current transacted price of $700k also 2.8k rental which is 4.8% yield, Optima is a better choice with lower quantum? I thought staying in Amber road with sea, shopping malls and cinema nearby should command premium rental?
The studios in Alexis in Queenstown with not much amenities are asking for 3.2k. In term of distance to town/CBD, both are quite similar, within 15mins drive. But for amenities, leisure and environment, amber road is much better, I wonder the reason for Queenstown higher rental?
thomastansb
18-05-12, 10:16
Wow, you have fantastic rental. My brother's OA studio only 2.6k.
I hv a 2BR at Amber rented at 5.5k unfurnished, north-south facing though with no west sun. But the angmoh tenant I have wasn't particular abt the facing at all, all he wanna know is there's laundry service at PP, and east coast park is just a few min's walk away. He also mentioned abt having his fellow country folks and community staying around the area at Seaview and Esta
I hv a 2BR at Amber rented at 5.5k unfurnished, north-south facing though with no west sun. But the angmoh tenant I have wasn't particular abt the facing at all, all he wanna know is there's laundry service at PP, and east coast park is just a few min's walk away. He also mentioned abt having his fellow country folks and community staying around the area at Seaview and Esta
What nationality is that btw, may i ask?
I hv a 2BR at Amber rented at 5.5k unfurnished, north-south facing though with no west sun. But the angmoh tenant I have wasn't particular abt the facing at all, all he wanna know is there's laundry service at PP, and east coast park is just a few min's walk away. He also mentioned abt having his fellow country folks and community staying around the area at Seaview and Esta
I think 5.5k 2BR reflect well on the rental at Amber road. Studio should command 3.5k-4k given such a good location.
thomastansb
18-05-12, 10:45
http://www.ura.gov.sg/realEstateWeb/realEstate/pageflow/rental/RentalController.jpf
You can view the rental at URA website. $3.98 psf at 75th percentile. This means if there are 100 rentals, $3.98 is the number 25th from the top.
For one amber, a studio (I take the upper 75th percentile) fetch on average 2.3k. But for one amber studio, I assume it should be higher up in the percentile, maybe 85 to 90th so will fetch around 2.5k. Which is pretty in line with my brother's rental.
2 bedder at 50th percentile will fetch around 3.6k. At 75th, will be 3.8k. So I can safely say for a 2 bedroom, the rental is around 3.6k to 3.8k.
I can also say the studio are not popular because east coast is more for family staying.
Wow, you have fantastic rental. My brother's OA studio only 2.6k.
Oh sorry for the confusion. Mine is Amber Residences, not One Amber. My tenant is from Houston.
The 5.5k rental contract was signed a yr ago. I m seeing similar units asking for as high as 6k now, but 5.5k is the norm.
Direct west sun is stack 3. Stack 4 is north.
Stack 3 n stack 4 are side by side.
both are almost on par west facing fyi.. :simmering:
Hi bros,
Anyone have the floor plan of aristo stack 2? Would like to know the actual size of the different rooms. Thanks.
I have this
http://www.singaporeexpats.com/housing-in-singapore/singapore-property/
[email protected]#_self
But there is no detail room size. Anywhere to get? Thanks bros
thomastansb
10-06-12, 13:49
Use the bed as a guage.
The bed is a standard queen sized bed. 2m x 1.5m. As you can see from the plan, after putting a queen sized bed, you will have difficulties walking.
Hi bros,
Anyone have the floor plan of aristo stack 2? Would like to know the actual size of the different rooms. Thanks.
I have this
http://www.singaporeexpats.com/housing-in-singapore/singapore-property/
[email protected]#_self
But there is no detail room size. Anywhere to get? Thanks bros
There is hardly any sun for the past 6 months in Singapore. Its mostly rain in the afternoon. So the sun is no big deal. In addition, one can install awning, put plants, or install window films to protect from intense sunrays.
As such, having sun facing is no longer a liability.
wahahahahahaha....
some housing agent posting the above comments recently! :doh:
Saw the building from far,
the balcony is big ! It look v v big in reality
Saw the building from far,
the balcony is big ! It look v v big in reality
that's the reason why the living space is so pathetic..:doh:
$1300 psf for Aristo ?? Do yr homework it has already hit $1550psf recently just waiting to get listed on URA. The last listed transaction was for a low floor at $1480 psf. Most owners are asking all above $1500psf with some up to $2000psf. There are lots of enquiries and offers around $1500-1520psf but owners for the high floors rejected these offers, otherwise my job to sell would be easier.
Btw, are u the guy who complained about afternoon sun for Aristo ?? I am just wondering where did the sun go for the past few weeks ? Seem like it has been raining all the while since September. So for now, afternoon or morning sun facing doesnt really matter anymore.
do look carefully above on the 2nd paragraph about what this so called agent "shawn"
said the afternoon sun being not an issue anymore!
must b eating his own words now.. :tongue3:
Anyone knows if there is any recent transactions for Aristo? Went to the site and seems construction is quite completed and they are now working on final stage for the lower floors. The top floors do not look that nice due to the grey pillars and blocking the balcony and view. Plus construction for The Cape is going to be quite noisy and dusty.... any advice from anyone what is the rating of this project as compared to earlier comments? Still a good buy or not?
that's the reason why the living space is so pathetic..:doh:
What living space? u mean sleep on balcony?
A simple update on the progress of Aristo ... building almost done except for the ground floor Butterfly House remnants...
Photo was taken at 4pm.. looking at the shadow formed on the Chinese Swimming Club walls, got west sun or not, judge by yrself =) But the seaview is fantastic though...
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A beautiful building is coming out soon at Amber Road - The Aristo @ Amber.
Last transaction made was for 808 sq.ft mid floor at $1,242,720 a couple of months back for $1540psf but strangely it wasnt highlighted in the URA website. Perhaps it will be shown later.
My advise to investors consider grabbing either Stack 1, 2 or 3 above 8th floor cause the sea views are fantastic. I have the privilege of going up to one of the high floor units above the club floor 2 months back. And I am simply amazed by the view. Stack 3 has afternoon sun but the developer is smart enough to construct a wider/longer roof so that units dont have a complete afternoon sun. Make an effort to visit the site and u will understand what I am talking about. The higher floor units have a nicely designed metallic aluminum linings to provide some cover from the afternoon or morning sun.
At the current pricing, Aristo is a complete steal. However, only 5 owners are seriously thinking of selling their units while the rest are holding on for rental or higher prices after TOP. I got one unit Stack 3, 646 sq.ft owner looking at $1.03 million. This unit is above 14 floor and the view is spectacular, unbelievable. Almost the same view as some of the units at Aalto. At this price, its a big bargain. My bet this unit will be $1.2 million after TOP. Thats for certain cause potential buyers have no idea how the view is like and I know what I am talking about.
I also went in to inspect the furnishings. Really top class. Bathrooms fully marble from floor to ceiling height and developer provides Duravit/TOTO furnishings throughout. Living/Kitchen floor are big slab white greyish marble and the bedrooms are big sized teak flooring. The kitchen cabinets are beautifully constructed with a dark silvery tinge with modular system. Its impossible to get anything with that kinda price for that kind of location.
As for some of you here who complain that Aristo bedroom is small and cant fit a queen size bed, I made a measurement of the master bedroom for the 646 sq.ft and the dimension is 2.5 metres x 3.3 metres excluding the baywindow and the balcony area. So its not that really small after all and can fit a queen size bed comfortably with some walking space.
I salute the developer who made extreme effort to ensure quality workmanship and design for the Aristo. I think its neighbors The Cape and Silversea will probably need to work much much harder to ensure their projects are better than The Aristo. The clubhouse of The Aristo has splendid view of the sea when u are in the common pool which is about 24 metres long x 4.3 metres width, and the full glass gym is constructed floating by the side of the pool with a beautiful sea view (its still under construction phase). Honestly, no other condos in the vicinity have clubhouse on the 14th floor with almost unblock seaview. Only The Aristo.
Last part to be finished is the conservation house - The Butterfly House. I spoken to the contractor supervisor and he mentioned that they need to spend longer time to refine and complete this house as this is a conserved title property. As such, The Aristo main building might TOP even before the conservation house is completed. Once completed, this conservation house designed by Bidwell, the same architect for Raffles Hotel and Goodwood Park Hotel, will be the spotlight of the whole Amber Road stretch. It will also be a reason for The Aristo to command premium pricing higher than its neighboring condos.
So my bet Aristo will cross $1600psf after TOP very easily and $2000 psf within 1 year after TOP. At this price its still a steal. Just look at all the new neighboring condos or even those far away and their asking prices. They are not even of good location, has seaview or near ameneties.
........I have the privilege of going up to one of the high floor units above the club floor 2 months back. And I am simply amazed by the view. Stack 3 has afternoon sun but the developer is smart enough to construct a wider/longer roof so that units dont have a complete afternoon sun. Make an effort to visit the site and u will understand what I am talking about. The higher floor units have a nicely designed metallic aluminum linings to provide some cover from the afternoon or morning sun.
........ Almost the same view as some of the units at Aalto. At this price, its a big bargain. My bet this unit will be $1.2 million after TOP. Thats for certain cause potential buyers have no idea how the view is like and I know what I am talking about.
........ Honestly, no other condos in the vicinity have clubhouse on the 14th floor with almost unblock seaview. Only The Aristo.
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Hi Shawn,
since you have access to the Aristo,
can you post the following views from
1) high floor unit, taken from balcony. wide angle shot please.
2) the view that is almost the same Aalto. wide angle shot please.
3) view from the clubhouse. wide angle shot please.
i request for wide angle shot so that i can really see whether it is really seaview, or pocket seaview (surrounded by neighbouring buildings), like One Shenton pocket seaview through Asia Square buildings gap.
I believe a picture is worth a 1000 words or in your post, word count is 677.
I am very much interested in the potential capital gains.
please accede to my request.
thank you very much.
As i am overseas, i cannot flydown to singapore based on your words alone. Please show me some views FROM aristo, and not OF aristo.
Besides the view, the layout of the room is also important, seems the master bedroom for stack 3 is pretty small, how about the living room? According to the floor plan, it seems it can only fit no more than 2M sofa. is that right? And the windows are all small pieces which does not look nice from far... wonder why the developer did not use bigger windows ..... wonder how soon can the project TOP and if there is not many transactions, people will just wait to see the price come down versus go up. need to make a decision until u see real transactions closed.
The other concern is the noise and dust from the neighbouring project "The Cape" .... got to bear with the construction work for at least 2 years before the development is completed. By the way, "The Cape" is not selling too well and if the price starts to come down, it will also affect this development, am I right?
#16-03 selling at $1.03M? Any idea how much is #15-03? at least have that for comparison.... 0r #13-03/ #12-03.
Hopeful, which unit are u considering? What view do u want? Full seaview?
Last part to be finished is the conservation house - The Butterfly House. I spoken to the contractor supervisor and he mentioned that they need to spend longer time to refine and complete this house as this is a conserved title property. As such, The Aristo main building might TOP even before the conservation house is completed. Once completed, this conservation house designed by Bidwell, the same architect for Raffles Hotel and Goodwood Park Hotel, will be the spotlight of the whole Amber Road stretch. It will also be a reason for The Aristo to command premium pricing higher than its neighboring condos.
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can the main buidling be TOP before the conservation house is completed? I thought they are considered as one development and will TOP at the same time. Since year-end is just round the corner, curious to know if the TOP will be before or after CNY which is in January next year.
Hi Shawn,
Thanks for the update. Do you know when is the earliest that it will TOP? Possible by Nov12? Can't wait to move in.
A beautiful building is coming out soon at Amber Road - The Aristo @ Amber.
Last transaction made was for 808 sq.ft mid floor at $1,242,720 a couple of months back for $1540psf but strangely it wasnt highlighted in the URA website. Perhaps it will be shown later.
My advise to investors consider grabbing either Stack 1, 2 or 3 above 8th floor cause the sea views are fantastic. I have the privilege of going up to one of the high floor units above the club floor 2 months back. And I am simply amazed by the view. Stack 3 has afternoon sun but the developer is smart enough to construct a wider/longer roof so that units dont have a complete afternoon sun. Make an effort to visit the site and u will understand what I am talking about. The higher floor units have a nicely designed metallic aluminum linings to provide some cover from the afternoon or morning sun.
At the current pricing, Aristo is a complete steal. However, only 5 owners are seriously thinking of selling their units while the rest are holding on for rental or higher prices after TOP. I got one unit Stack 3, 646 sq.ft owner looking at $1.03 million. This unit is above 14 floor and the view is spectacular, unbelievable. Almost the same view as some of the units at Aalto. At this price, its a big bargain. My bet this unit will be $1.2 million after TOP. Thats for certain cause potential buyers have no idea how the view is like and I know what I am talking about.
I also went in to inspect the furnishings. Really top class. Bathrooms fully marble from floor to ceiling height and developer provides Duravit/TOTO furnishings throughout. Living/Kitchen floor are big slab white greyish marble and the bedrooms are big sized teak flooring. The kitchen cabinets are beautifully constructed with a dark silvery tinge with modular system. Its impossible to get anything with that kinda price for that kind of location.
As for some of you here who complain that Aristo bedroom is small and cant fit a queen size bed, I made a measurement of the master bedroom for the 646 sq.ft and the dimension is 2.5 metres x 3.3 metres excluding the baywindow and the balcony area. So its not that really small after all and can fit a queen size bed comfortably with some walking space.
I salute the developer who made extreme effort to ensure quality workmanship and design for the Aristo. I think its neighbors The Cape and Silversea will probably need to work much much harder to ensure their projects are better than The Aristo. The clubhouse of The Aristo has splendid view of the sea when u are in the common pool which is about 24 metres long x 4.3 metres width, and the full glass gym is constructed floating by the side of the pool with a beautiful sea view (its still under construction phase). Honestly, no other condos in the vicinity have clubhouse on the 14th floor with almost unblock seaview. Only The Aristo.
Last part to be finished is the conservation house - The Butterfly House. I spoken to the contractor supervisor and he mentioned that they need to spend longer time to refine and complete this house as this is a conserved title property. As such, The Aristo main building might TOP even before the conservation house is completed. Once completed, this conservation house designed by Bidwell, the same architect for Raffles Hotel and Goodwood Park Hotel, will be the spotlight of the whole Amber Road stretch. It will also be a reason for The Aristo to command premium pricing higher than its neighboring condos.
So my bet Aristo will cross $1600psf after TOP very easily and $2000 psf within 1 year after TOP. At this price its still a steal. Just look at all the new neighboring condos or even those far away and their asking prices. They are not even of good location, has seaview or near ameneties.
Doufei, which stack have you got? planning to get ID for renovation? feel free to join FaceBook chat group ... search for The Aristo @ Amber for reno talk.
Last part to be finished is the conservation house - The Butterfly House. I spoken to the contractor supervisor and he mentioned that they need to spend longer time to refine and complete this house as this is a conserved title property. As such, The Aristo main building might TOP even before the conservation house is completed. Once completed, this conservation house designed by Bidwell, the same architect for Raffles Hotel and Goodwood Park Hotel, will be the spotlight of the whole Amber Road stretch. It will also be a reason for The Aristo to command premium pricing higher than its neighboring condos.
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can the main buidling be TOP before the conservation house is completed? I thought they are considered as one development and will TOP at the same time. Since year-end is just round the corner, curious to know if the TOP will be before or after CNY which is in January next year.
It will TOP before end of this year 100% guaranteed. The contractor told me they have a deadline for construction completion by end September, after which developer will come in and make the final finishing touch to the development. So my bet its TOP before end of this year.
The conservation house is a separate entity not joined with the main building. So a delay of 1-2 months in completion is perfectly fine. I ever collected keys for a condo which has TOP despite the carpark and the pool still not 100% completed. This does happen but the delay cannot be more than 2 months the most. Owners get key and do renovations. By the time they come in, everything is completed.
Hi Shawn,
Thanks for the update. Do you know when is the earliest that it will TOP? Possible by Nov12? Can't wait to move in.
100% guaranteed will TOP by year end. But November, I am not sure. It might be earlier or later but end of this year is the cutting point.
You got which stack? In any case, any stack is still a value for money as Aristo is ideally located.
Besides the view, the layout of the room is also important, seems the master bedroom for stack 3 is pretty small, how about the living room? According to the floor plan, it seems it can only fit no more than 2M sofa. is that right? And the windows are all small pieces which does not look nice from far... wonder why the developer did not use bigger windows ..... wonder how soon can the project TOP and if there is not many transactions, people will just wait to see the price come down versus go up. need to make a decision until u see real transactions closed.
The other concern is the noise and dust from the neighbouring project "The Cape" .... got to bear with the construction work for at least 2 years before the development is completed. By the way, "The Cape" is not selling too well and if the price starts to come down, it will also affect this development, am I right?
#16-03 selling at $1.03M? Any idea how much is #15-03? at least have that for comparison.... 0r #13-03/ #12-03.
Hopeful, which unit are u considering? What view do u want? Full seaview?
Well I have given u the exact measurement of the Stack 3 masterbedroom its 2.5m x 3.3m. Layout is squarish I dont see anything wrong in the layout in fact its very ideal for small unit layout like Aristo. The other room is small more suitable for study room or a single bed. But its practical and economical for small family of 3 or 4 to live in this unit size.
My listing only have #15-03 looking at $1.03 million. #16-03 I am not sure perhaps owner not seriously selling just testing market. But I can bet once these owners get into their units, they will not want to sell at this kinda price after see their seaviews :>
Any case Stack 3 is not the best stack. Stack 2 offers the best seaview and does not have full afternoon sun. Unfortunately, nobody is selling Stack 2 except this one owner on 5th floor she undecided on whether to sell or not. Anyway her unit is right above the mechanical carpark and she is looking at $1480psf.
So the best unit available now is the #15-03 stack 3 cause this is the highest floor available for sale. And at $1.03 million its a real steal. Once TOP, u wont see this price again.
Hi Shawn,
since you have access to the Aristo,
can you post the following views from
1) high floor unit, taken from balcony. wide angle shot please.
2) the view that is almost the same Aalto. wide angle shot please.
3) view from the clubhouse. wide angle shot please.
i request for wide angle shot so that i can really see whether it is really seaview, or pocket seaview (surrounded by neighbouring buildings), like One Shenton pocket seaview through Asia Square buildings gap.
I believe a picture is worth a 1000 words or in your post, word count is 677.
I am very much interested in the potential capital gains.
please accede to my request.
thank you very much.
As i am overseas, i cannot flydown to singapore based on your words alone. Please show me some views FROM aristo, and not OF aristo.
Hi I been trying to upload the photos onto this site but fail all the time as the size of the photos are probably too large (2.5MB-4MB each). As such, would u be kind enough to give me your email and I can forward u the photos of the seaview.
You cant compare The Aristo to One Shenton as Amber Road seaview is very very close (around 500 metres or lesser to the sea shore) whereas Shenton seaview are kilometres away. When u say pocketed seaview, The Aristo offers quite a generous seaview. As I only have Stack 3 photos, the seaview extend from Big Splash all the way to Fort Road from one side and the other side you have a nice city and landed property view. This is similar to some of the Aalto units which have 2 views - the sea and city. Of course, if u want better seaview u can opt for Stack 2 at The Aristo, unfortunately I dont have a photo for that and nobody is selling that stack.
Hear from u soon.
Hi I been trying to upload the photos onto this site but fail all the time as the size of the photos are probably too large (2.5MB-4MB each). As such, would u be kind enough to give me your email and I can forward u the photos of the seaview.
You cant compare The Aristo to One Shenton as Amber Road seaview is very very close (around 500 metres or lesser to the sea shore) whereas Shenton seaview are kilometres away. When u say pocketed seaview, The Aristo offers quite a generous seaview. As I only have Stack 3 photos, the seaview extend from Big Splash all the way to Fort Road from one side and the other side you have a nice city and landed property view. This is similar to some of the Aalto units which have 2 views - the sea and city. Of course, if u want better seaview u can opt for Stack 2 at The Aristo, unfortunately I dont have a photo for that and nobody is selling that stack.
Hear from u soon.
I like to see the photos Shawn. My email address is
[email protected]
Thanks in advance!!!!!
I like to see the photos Shawn. My email address is
[email protected]
Thanks in advance!!!!!
Ok i just sent an email to u with the pics please check yr email. Regards.
Ok i just sent an email to u with the pics please check yr email. Regards.
Thanks for sending it across..... got it. Hope the unit will still be available for sale after TOP, then can go up and see the "real thing" and make an offer if I like it.... also waiting to see the conservation house as buyers are paying premium for that as well... plus the 14th level club house... swimming pool and everything....
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