The Quartz @ Buangkok (99LH By Guocoland)

[Unregistereddie]

SINGAPORE, (Reuters) - Hopes that a slowdown in
Singapore's property market is temporary are fading as an
uncertain economic outlook and a looming housing glut threaten to
plunge the sector into a prolonged downturn.
Homebuilders such as CapitaLand <CATL.SI>, Keppel Land
<KLAN.SI> and GuocoLand <GUOC.SI> have delayed launching new
projects in the moribund market, taking a hit to first-quarter
earnings as they hoped for a rebound later this year.
Prospects could be dented further in coming months if smaller
developers face financing troubles and have to unload properties
at massive discounts. Some have gorged themselves on expensive
land acquisitions over the past two years.
With home prices expected to fall 30 to 40 percent over the
next three years, Singapore's developers could be badly hit and
analysts may slash their earnings estimates further.
"This is the start of a multi-year price correction. Private
residential property prices could easily fall by up to 30 percent
by 2010," said Barclays Capital economist Leong Wai Ho.
Credit Suisse in a report this month saw rents and property
prices falling even more steeply by as much as 40 percent, and
downgraded its investment recommendation for the sector to
"underweight".
Warning signs have been flashing as first quarter 2008 sales
volumes slumped to the lowest in five years and price growth
slowed for two straight quarters, with concerns about a global
economic slowdown and the U.S. subprime mortgage crisis scaring
off potential homebuyers.
Leong said an impending oversupply will worsen the problem,
with 66,000 new homes expected to be completed over the next four
years, against forecast demand for 50,000 in the same period.
The three-month Singapore Interbank Offered Rate <SISGD3MD=>
-- a benchmark for mortgage loans -- has fallen to near record
lows below 1.3 percent, but that may not be enough to revive
buyers' flagging confidence, economists say.
"Negative real interest rates will be at best a cushion,
rather than a boost to housing demand in the near term, although
they could lift property demand if and when sentiment turns,"
said Citi analyst Kit Wei Zheng.

STEEP DISCOUNTS
"The worst is yet to come and price cuts are imminent, as the
holding power of property players is weakening and speculative
demand is diminishing," said ABN AMRO analyst Fera Wirawan.
BNP Paribas has flagged high financial risks for small
developers including Bukit Sembawang <BSES.SI>, Low Keng Huat
<LKH.SI>, and Lian Beng <LIBG.SI>, which have almost all their
debts due within a year.
Even major builders such as Allgreen <AGRN.SI>, KepLand and
GuocoLand could face difficulties after steep drops in profit in
the last quarter as they launch fewer projects, analysts say.
Slower sales and rising costs could raise developers' gearing
or debt-to-equity ratio to dangerous levels above 70 percent, up
from the industry average of about 62 percent.
"We identify three developers, namely Allgreen, GuocoLand and
Keppel Land, that could face some pressures on cash flow,"
JPMorgan analyst Christopher Gee said in a report, noting that
gearing levels could be pushed up to between 80 and 130 percent.
The risk of price falls has been heightened by property
speculators buying in recent years with little upfront cash,
relying on a deferred payment scheme. The government scrapped the
scheme last October in a bid to cool down the sector.
Analysts expect speculators will dispose of about 700 units
on the cheap this year, and another 2,000 next year, as the
properties near completion and installments are due.
"Forced selling may becomewidespread next year as
speculators with weak bargaining power may not be able toafford
the installment payments," said Wirawan.

TEMPORARY HICCUP?
Some developers are still counting on home prices in the city
state to rise for at least another year, as they see the market
in the middle of an upswing even as the U.S. housing market
grapples with its worst downturn since the Great Depression.
"This is a temporary hiccup. We just had a boom starting in
2006 and it's usually a seven-year cycle," property tycoon Kwek
Leng Beng, who heads Singapore's No. 2 developer City
Developments <CTDM.SI>, told Reuters.
The property market will be supported by greater foreign
investments as Singapore sees the completion of two casino
projects and the influx of major events such as Formula One races
and the Youth Olympics over the next few years, Kwek argued.
But Barclays' Leong said his bearish scenario, which calls
for a near one-third drop in property value, already takes into
account any boost resulting from these economic developments.
"It's not the worst-case scenario. This is the most likely
scenario based on the numbers," he said.
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[LA]

Hi LA,

Me bought 63 also on the 10th flr. Which floor u staying?

Hi Icekopi, I'm staying on 15th flr. Bought it last year mar07. Now already cracking head of the design. Hope to shift in Q109 though still hoping for this year end.

[TQ Lover]

Hi Icekopi, I'm staying on 15th flr. Bought it last year mar07. Now already cracking head of the design. Hope to shift in Q109 though still hoping for this year end.


What is the price psft by that time? just want to get some references. thanks

[Icekopi]

Hi Icekopi, I'm staying on 15th flr. Bought it last year mar07. Now already cracking head of the design. Hope to shift in Q109 though still hoping for this year end.

Wow LA,

you must have bought at a very good price judging from the time of purchase.

anyway, if u browse thru some earlier threads between some of us(TQ1, Keent, Alan Tam etc), we may want to check out the designer of TQ showflat and may copy some of their design. If we do it together we hope to get a better price.

So hang around for more update about this when nearing TOP.

Cheers!

[LA]

What is the price psft by that time? just want to get some references. thanks

Hi TQ Lover,

Got it at $54X psf. Dun think TQ will drop their price anymore cos its near to TOP and this is one of their selling point beside near MRT.

[LA]

Wow LA,

you must have bought at a very good price judging from the time of purchase.

anyway, if u browse thru some earlier threads between some of us(TQ1, Keent, Alan Tam etc), we may want to check out the designer of TQ showflat and may copy some of their design. If we do it together we hope to get a better price.

So hang around for more update about this when nearing TOP.

Cheers!

haha, pure luck. My husband brought me to TQ right after CNY07 and decide that is the place for us. It was a 1-1 between buying n not. In the end he won. We are just shifting from SK-MRT to BK-MRT. Lots of ppl say we din make a wise decision and we just kip mum and keeping our finger cross, thanks to my husband, he made the right decision. Phew!!..

I was in the earlier conversation with a lady call "Happy 1st Home" and i hv a contractor to recommend. He is v honest n gd and has done my shops and my customers house and shops. All thumbs up for him. We have decided on him. Just headache whether to combine 2 room into one. Pulling off the wardrobe is heartpain and any comments??.. haha..
Welcome those who like to view my house once its done. Have decided on black and white theme.
Come next week there is one major exhibition going on in Spore Expo. Maybe you all would like to go down n get some ideas also.

[alan]

haha, pure luck. My husband brought me to TQ right after CNY07 and decide that is the place for us. It was a 1-1 between buying n not. In the end he won. We are just shifting from SK-MRT to BK-MRT. Lots of ppl say we din make a wise decision and we just kip mum and keeping our finger cross, thanks to my husband, he made the right decision. Phew!!..

I was in the earlier conversation with a lady call "Happy 1st Home" and i hv a contractor to recommend. He is v honest n gd and has done my shops and my customers house and shops. All thumbs up for him. We have decided on him. Just headache whether to combine 2 room into one. Pulling off the wardrobe is heartpain and any comments??.. haha..
Welcome those who like to view my house once its done. Have decided on black and white theme.
Come next week there is one major exhibition going on in Spore Expo. Maybe you all would like to go down n get some ideas also.
What is the name of the designer company? would like to go and see their showroom. How much did you buy during CNY 07. which stack?

[Alan Tam]

Hi Icekopi, I'm staying on 15th flr. Bought it last year mar07. Now already cracking head of the design. Hope to shift in Q109 though still hoping for this year end.
Can check with LA, she highly recommend her contractor for the design of the house.

[Icekopi]

Can check with LA, she highly recommend her contractor for the design of the house.

sure, will consider this as an option.

thanks Alan

[TQ1]

haha, pure luck. My husband brought me to TQ right after CNY07 and decide that is the place for us. It was a 1-1 between buying n not. In the end he won. We are just shifting from SK-MRT to BK-MRT. Lots of ppl say we din make a wise decision and we just kip mum and keeping our finger cross, thanks to my husband, he made the right decision. Phew!!..

I was in the earlier conversation with a lady call "Happy 1st Home" and i hv a contractor to recommend. He is v honest n gd and has done my shops and my customers house and shops. All thumbs up for him. We have decided on him. Just headache whether to combine 2 room into one. Pulling off the wardrobe is heartpain and any comments??.. haha..
Welcome those who like to view my house once its done. Have decided on black and white theme.
Come next week there is one major exhibition going on in Spore Expo. Maybe you all would like to go down n get some ideas also.

Yes I think it is quite a waste if tear down the wardrobe. Please recommend if you got good designer/contractor to introduce. I think the TQ owners will be interested to know them as well.

[TQ new owner]

What is the price psft by that time? just want to get some references. thanks

How TQ Lover? Have you finally make up your mind already? For your information, I had been shopping for a condo for the past 2 years. From pricing about $800K+ for THE CHUAN, and TQ about $500K+ till today, THE CHUAN has gone up to above 1mil+ and TQ above $800K+. So as you can see, if you are keen in a project, you can't wait. Don't think price in mass market condo can come down. Take for instance, I will not think the existing TQ owners will want to sell their unit even with a tidy profit now. (Thus don't have to think that they will slash their price, unless for flipper who only think of making profits and no intention to stay). Because if they sell now, they will not be able to buy back at your preferred price. IMHO.

[TQ new owner]

What is the price psft by that time? just want to get some references. thanks

How TQ Lover? Have you finally make up your mind already? For your information, I had been shopping for a condo for the past 2 years. From pricing about $800K+ for THE CHUAN, and TQ about $500K+ till today, THE CHUAN has gone up to above 1mil+ and TQ above $800K+. So as you can see, if you are keen in a project, you can't wait. Don't think price in mass market condo can come down. Take for instance, I will not think the existing TQ owners will want to sell their unit even with a tidy profit now. (Thus don't have to think that they will slash their price, unless for flipper who only think of making profits and no intention to stay). Because if they sell now, they will not be able to buy back at their preferred price. IMHO.

[LA]

Yes I think it is quite a waste if tear down the wardrobe. Please recommend if you got good designer/contractor to introduce. I think the TQ owners will be interested to know them as well.
Hi TQ1, Alan Tam n to those who are interested,
My Designer is call David, from Maxpro Interior. Contact: 90068441. His service is all by words of mouth, so you dun get to see him in home/decor exhibition. I have seen most of his work around my circle of people. So, no doubt for his service and worksmenship.
But state first that I got no commission for recommending. haha...
I'm asking him for a quotation soon.

[LA]

What is the name of the designer company? would like to go and see their showroom. How much did you buy during CNY 07. which stack?
Hi Alan, i have already given TQ owner the contact for my designer in the previous post. You may call him.
Staying in stack 63 @ $54X psf before the price increase. Could have gotten @ $503 psf(lower flr) facing the hdb during that time but din get as me n hubby prefer higher flr and blk 63 have more privacy at the moment base on the facing.
Bet that you have gotten one unit also.

[TQ1]

Hi TQ1, Alan Tam n to those who are interested,
My Designer is call David, from Maxpro Interior. Contact: 90068441. His service is all by words of mouth, so you dun get to see him in home/decor exhibition. I have seen most of his work around my circle of people. So, no doubt for his service and worksmenship.
But state first that I got no commission for recommending. haha...
I'm asking him for a quotation soon.


Hi LA,

thanks for the contact.

Hi guys/ladies,

when do you think will be the most appropriate time frame to talk about design/renovation taking into consideration that the TOP is going to be at least 6-7 months away? But if you need major design/reno, it is better to start early. :)

Regards,
TQ1

[ugly door]

http://www.myhome.com.sg/Properties/Public/TQ/Content/asp/status.asp

above link from Guocoland website.

How come the doors look so ugly and cheap?

[Unregistered door]

maybe not fully done yet?

[Alan Tam]

http://www.myhome.com.sg/Properties/Public/TQ/Content/asp/status.asp

above link from Guocoland website.

How come the doors look so ugly and cheap?
Don't worry, the door is not paint yet. If you look at the showroom, actual unit, you will know the actual colour and quality. Anyway, looking at it, the TOP may come earlier than mention March 09.

[door]

well, you can paint the door according to the colour that you like. Small matter actually.

[LA]

Hi LA,

thanks for the contact.

Hi guys/ladies,

when do you think will be the most appropriate time frame to talk about design/renovation taking into consideration that the TOP is going to be at least 6-7 months away? But if you need major design/reno, it is better to start early. :)

Regards,
TQ1
If you confirm ur designer, just 1 month will do. if you still need to choose btw design company, best is u can start to hunt 3 months b4 hand so that u can compare and choose the best out of it.
maybe 3 months b4 hand, i'll send a post out and see who wants to meet up together with my designer. Can't wait for TOP soon.
Between, sungei kadut's got more than 40 furniture outlet. Those who wishes to hunt for furniture may wish to take a look there.
There's one place call IFC (International Furniture Centre) that is like furniture mall. Furniture are modern and nice. Happy shopping!!

[Unregistered door]

are the developers reading this forum?
Do they take the comments of the owners and improve the Quartz?

[door]

are the developers reading this forum?
Do they take the comments of the owners and improve the Quartz?
i don't think the developer will read this forum. anyway, what you see is what you get at the showroom and in the material used as specified in the brochure.

[TQ1]

If you confirm ur designer, just 1 month will do. if you still need to choose btw design company, best is u can start to hunt 3 months b4 hand so that u can compare and choose the best out of it.
maybe 3 months b4 hand, i'll send a post out and see who wants to meet up together with my designer. Can't wait for TOP soon.
Between, sungei kadut's got more than 40 furniture outlet. Those who wishes to hunt for furniture may wish to take a look there.
There's one place call IFC (International Furniture Centre) that is like furniture mall. Furniture are modern and nice. Happy shopping!!

Yes. It is a good idea if we can explore together with the designer. I think will make a trip down to sungei kadut to look see and gather ideas first before we meet, maybe 3-4 months before TOP. So is the IFC at Sungei Kadut? Thanks.:)

[TQ1]

i don't think the developer will read this forum. anyway, what you see is what you get at the showroom and in the material used as specified in the brochure.


From the TQ specification, Timber Doors are provided for Bedrooms & Bathrooms. I think even if they provide ugly timber door, don't think we can deviate from their specs. :banghead:

[Alan Tam]

From the TQ specification, Timber Doors are provided for Bedrooms & Bathrooms. I think even if they provide ugly timber door, don't think we can deviate from their specs. :banghead:
I remember there is no door in the 'old' showroom. But anyway, I think should not be that bad. Maybe will visit the new showroom again to find out. :)

[LA]

Yes. It is a good idea if we can explore together with the designer. I think will make a trip down to sungei kadut to look see and gather ideas first before we meet, maybe 3-4 months before TOP. So is the IFC at Sungei Kadut? Thanks.:)
Yes, IFC is at sungei kadut.there is one shop call univonna inside IFC and their sofa is v nice. Their sofa model are all in english name instead of numberic number. My husband like one call "Alex" and wondering if should take 3+1(3seater+optimun) or "L-Shape". So many choices. Choosing furniture is so fun.. Really tempted to buy now.

[TQ1]

Yes, IFC is at sungei kadut.there is one shop call univonna inside IFC and their sofa is v nice. Their sofa model are all in english name instead of numberic number. My husband like one call "Alex" and wondering if should take 3+1(3seater+optimun) or "L-Shape". So many choices. Choosing furniture is so fun.. Really tempted to buy now.

Great. At least now I know where to look for nice sofa next time. Usually, my only place to shop for sofa is only at beach road furniture mall. Thanks alot.

[TQ new owner]

I remember there is no door in the 'old' showroom. But anyway, I think should not be that bad. Maybe will visit the new showroom again to find out. :)

Hi Alan, fyi there are also no door in the new showroom.

[TQQQ]

Yes, IFC is at sungei kadut.there is one shop call univonna inside IFC and their sofa is v nice. Their sofa model are all in english name instead of numberic number. My husband like one call "Alex" and wondering if should take 3+1(3seater+optimun) or "L-Shape". So many choices. Choosing furniture is so fun.. Really tempted to buy now.

Is the pricing cheap for the sofas?

[LA]

Is the pricing cheap for the sofas?

Hi TQQQ, the price is reasonable depending on whether u getting full or 1/2 leather, pvc or pvc soft. Range from $1000+ to $2000+. The staff there actually taught us a lot on sofa knowledge.
Been to furniture mall, park mall etc and the price in sungei kadut is still far more cheaper than those in town. Not only for sofa but other furniture as well. My advise is that if u see certain branded item you like in sungei kadut, best is compare with a few more furniture outlet b4 buying cos it could b the same brand but price can vary alot. We saw one mattress from 2 outlet and price difference by $500!!!!.
Perhaps me n my husband love to view n look at id(interior design), that's y we have been moving around quite frequent all over singapore collecting ideas n hunting for "ideal" furniture.. haha..
Those who are interested can let me know, i'll post some links and you all can do the viewing. Got "lobangs" for downlight lightings as well.
Only when date draws near, those who interested can PM me n will send some contacts to u. It's just so fun sharing.. lol

[The Truthful One]

Hi TQQQ, the price is reasonable depending on whether u getting full or 1/2 leather, pvc or pvc soft. Range from $1000+ to $2000+. The staff there actually taught us a lot on sofa knowledge.
Been to furniture mall, park mall etc and the price in sungei kadut is still far more cheaper than those in town. Not only for sofa but other furniture as well. My advise is that if u see certain branded item you like in sungei kadut, best is compare with a few more furniture outlet b4 buying cos it could b the same brand but price can vary alot. We saw one mattress from 2 outlet and price difference by $500!!!!.
Perhaps me n my husband love to view n look at id(interior design), that's y we have been moving around quite frequent all over singapore collecting ideas n hunting for "ideal" furniture.. haha..
Those who are interested can let me know, i'll post some links and you all can do the viewing. Got "lobangs" for downlight lightings as well.
Only when date draws near, those who interested can PM me n will send some contacts to u. It's just so fun sharing.. lol

Hi LA, was wondering if you're going to do up wooden planks for the planter outside the living room? Cause I was thinking if we can rally up a sizable number of TQ owners then we can get a reliable and good vendor to do up. What do you think?:rolleyes:

[stack 15]

Hi LA, was wondering if you're going to do up wooden planks for the planter outside the living room? Cause I was thinking if we can rally up a sizable number of TQ owners then we can get a reliable and good vendor to do up. What do you think?:rolleyes:

Hey there, thats a good idea. We are interested. Please keep posted. Thanks

[no TQ]

Total 625 units. and 216 units unsold to-date, why?

must be some thing wrong.

those who bought mainly stay at sengkang or punggul. HDB upgraders i bet, right?

[yes TQ]

Total 625 units. and 216 units unsold to-date, why?

must be some thing wrong.

those who bought mainly stay at sengkang or punggul. HDB upgraders i bet, right?

Not all units launched that's why. Do you know where is Buangkok? Obviously this is a mass market condo. Do you know what is mass market? I think you need to read more in this forum.

[noblebaby]

Not all units launched that's why. Do you know where is Buangkok? Obviously this is a mass market condo. Do you know what is mass market? I think you need to read more in this forum.

all units hav been launched la. visited the showflat.

[fact]

all units hav been launched la. visited the showflat.
i think he is referring to the developer launching in stages. probably by now, all units have been launched. those who bought in the previous phases were not given the choice of the two blocks (considered premium choices) at the corner and some of the units facing the pool.

[fact]

forgot to add that the developer only released a handful of units every time.

[no TQ]

Now all unit has been launched. but still left 200 units. quite a lot.

Look at the stock market now, very soon is the turn for property market.

[new observer]

It is really up to one to access their needs vs their financial status. If u don't feel comfortable with the risks to buy property now, then don't buy. Also this is a mass market - it is only natural that it would attract more HDB upgraders.

[Unregistered2]

It is really up to one to access their needs vs their financial status. If u don't feel comfortable with the risks to buy property now, then don't buy. Also this is a mass market - it is only natural that it would attract more HDB upgraders.
agree. buy only when you are comfortable, TQ or any other condo projects. so far, we are comfortable with TQ.

[fact]

Now all unit has been launched. but still left 200 units. quite a lot.

Look at the stock market now, very soon is the turn for property market.
the 2 blocks just launched could very well make up the bulk of the 200 odd unsold units. in this slow market, it shouldn't come as a surprise that the sale is slow as all other condo projects are experiencing slow sale too.

[fact]

plus the developer believes in the project selling by itself. they did not even advertise the project.

[Just bought]

the 2 blocks just launched could very well make up the bulk of the 200 odd unsold units. in this slow market, it shouldn't come as a surprise that the sale is slow as all other condo projects are experiencing slow sale too.

Yes. You are right. Those old stacks are only left with very few choices. The two new stacks make up almost the remaining 200 unsold units. TQ sales are slow and steady. Heard from the agent that price of TQ had been rising since the first launch. Good for those who make fast decision to purchase recently. Anyway Guocoland maintain good pricing for this project thus protecting the early buyers.

[fact]

in a way, that shows that those who bought TQ are those who have done their research, looked around and made a lot of comparison before buying, unlike projects where people bought on impulse and later threw them out.

[LA]

Hi LA, was wondering if you're going to do up wooden planks for the planter outside the living room? Cause I was thinking if we can rally up a sizable number of TQ owners then we can get a reliable and good vendor to do up. What do you think?:rolleyes:
Unless install glass window outside the planter, that might b my last choice to fix wooden plank on the planter.

1) If the planter is not covered with glass window, rain will wet the plank.
2)Though some woods are water resistance, it will still b moisty and take some time to dry up the whole area when it comes to rainy days
3) No matter how the sun dries up the surface of the plank, still skeptical on the bottom given considersation over the number of yrs staying there. Pest and insects love wood, so, rather not take the risk. have termite experience b4 though, so not taking the risk (This is my personal opinion).

Contractors either look at the whole house package or a group package. Advise is to get everything in a whole house package first and along the way, shld anybody find better price and quality can just axe off that portion and sub-let to other contractors to do.
My husband n me will b meeting our contractor, David next week for the design cos our feng shui master is coming from malaysia this month. Mayb get some idea from him first and let TQ owners know.
My husband also feels so excited as this is gonna b our 2nd home sweet home.

[vic]

Contractors either look at the whole house package or a group package. Advise is to get everything in a whole house package first and along the way, shld anybody find better price and quality can just axe off that portion and sub-let to other contractors to do.
My husband n me will b meeting our contractor, David next week for the design cos our feng shui master is coming from malaysia this month. Mayb get some idea from him first and let TQ owners know.
My husband also feels so excited as this is gonna b our 2nd home sweet home.

ur FShui master can help to see ur place juz by condo layout drawings? Cuz still havent TOP so can go in physically to view the unit rite?

I am asking this as I was oso thinking of engaging one FShui to look at my unit.

thanks

[LA]

ur FShui master can help to see ur place juz by condo layout drawings? Cuz still havent TOP so can go in physically to view the unit rite?

I am asking this as I was oso thinking of engaging one FShui to look at my unit.

thanks

I also not v sure. Its the flow between us and the FS master. He is from ipoh and will b here this month, might as well get the quotation, show to him if our bed facing, lightings etc etc.. is ok (my husband ever brought him to view the surroundings b4). Next year after cny when he comes back to singapore again, just right to view physically.

[vic]

I also not v sure. Its the flow between us and the FS master. He is from ipoh and will b here this month, might as well get the quotation, show to him if our bed facing, lightings etc etc.. is ok (my husband ever brought him to view the surroundings b4). Next year after cny when he comes back to singapore again, just right to view physically.


If he needs to view the surounding and the unit itself then wouldnt it be better to plan or buy furniture after he view and gave advise?

I scared after I engaged an ID with a design oready he say this cannot that cannot.

[FS?]

I also not v sure. Its the flow between us and the FS master. He is from ipoh and will b here this month, might as well get the quotation, show to him if our bed facing, lightings etc etc.. is ok (my husband ever brought him to view the surroundings b4). Next year after cny when he comes back to singapore again, just right to view physically.

then what his comment on the surrounding? there got temple and fire station, feng sui will not be good if facing...

[Alan Tam]

I also not v sure. Its the flow between us and the FS master. He is from ipoh and will b here this month, might as well get the quotation, show to him if our bed facing, lightings etc etc.. is ok (my husband ever brought him to view the surroundings b4). Next year after cny when he comes back to singapore again, just right to view physically.
Any comment from the FS master on the surrouding since he visited the area.

[TQ1]

ur FShui master can help to see ur place juz by condo layout drawings? Cuz still havent TOP so can go in physically to view the unit rite?

I am asking this as I was oso thinking of engaging one FShui to look at my unit.

thanks

I engaged a Feng Shui master for ID of my previous home after I selected my flat ten years ago. I consulted him before doing the ID. So that the master proposed layout will not "cheong" with the Interior Designer's layout. So far, after consulting, things for me were pretty smooth. I may consider to look for him again for TQ this time round.
:D

[FS master]

I engaged a Feng Shui master for ID of my previous home after I selected my flat ten years ago. I consulted him before doing the ID. So that the master proposed layout will not "cheong" with the Interior Designer's layout. So far, after consulting, things for me were pretty smooth. I may consider to look for him again for TQ this time round.
:D
Who is FS master? what tis the charges? can share? Thanks

[LA]

If he needs to view the surounding and the unit itself then wouldnt it be better to plan or buy furniture after he view and gave advise?

I scared after I engaged an ID with a design oready he say this cannot that cannot.

Different FS master have different practise. Some FS master ask the owner to hack here and there after the place is done up. But my FS counter-rack the required by putting crystal if certain design cant b change.
To have sofa, dining table, etc, etc, is alright. Just a matter of where to place them. But ultimately, we r the one who live inside the house, best is we hv to feel comfortable with how we want our house to be.
if u din like what he propose, can ask him how to counter-rack

[LA]

Any comment from the FS master on the surrouding since he visited the area.
He din really comment about the overall as we are more interested in our facing, that is blk 63 which he say is not too bad. Detail comment will only b done when he view our house personally.

[Unregisteredcar]

In today's straits times, there are reports that recent and would be condos owners do not have enough car park spaces or the car park spaces are too small.

anyone knows if this will happen to the Quartz?

[TQ1]

Who is FS master? what tis the charges? can share? Thanks

In Tanjong Katong complex area. Charged close to $2,000 for a HDB EA. But that was the price 10 years ago.

Sometime it may be good to seek their opinions before moving in. Are you also a TQ owner?

[Unregistered2]

In today's straits times, there are reports that recent and would be condos owners do not have enough car park spaces or the car park spaces are too small.

anyone knows if this will happen to the Quartz?
there are 668 carpark lots for TQ owners according to the specifications in the green leaflet attached with the TQ brochure. More than enough for owners and guests.

[New owner]

there are 668 carpark lots for TQ owners according to the specifications in the green leaflet attached with the TQ brochure. More than enough for owners and guests.


668 carpark lots are definitely more than enough for total 625 units at TQ. Furthermore, due to the close vicinity to Buangkok MRT, I think some owners will give up their cars and go for public transport. I personally will be giving up my car and take MRT. It is so convenient.

[kennt]

there are 668 carpark lots for TQ owners according to the specifications in the green leaflet attached with the TQ brochure. More than enough for owners and guests.

I think the carpark lot problem is only applicable to high end propertites which are mostly situated in the central core area. The PSF $ is much higher hence developer need to maximise the space used, reducing the no. of carpark lots.

[Unregistered123]

668 carpark lots are definitely more than enough for total 625 units at TQ. Furthermore, due to the close vicinity to Buangkok MRT, I think some owners will give up their cars and go for public transport. I personally will be giving up my car and take MRT. It is so convenient.
Wow 668 carpark lots, sure enough lah. Lucky I brought TQ.

[Unregistered 101]

Hi All,

Last sunday I went to TQ with my wife. And was advise by our agent that the TOP will be delay to 2nd quarter of next year. Have you guys heard of it?

[Unregistered2]

Hi All,

Last sunday I went to TQ with my wife. And was advise by our agent that the TOP will be delay to 2nd quarter of next year. Have you guys heard of it?
thanks for the info. we were hoping that it will be first quarter. well, since it is a big development, it should take a longer than expected time to complete.

[Unregisteredbuy]

Hi All,

Last sunday I went to TQ with my wife. And was advise by our agent that the TOP will be delay to 2nd quarter of next year. Have you guys heard of it?

do you own any unit there?

i dont mind. 2Q then 2Q.

[Peter Pan]

Hi All,

Last sunday I went to TQ with my wife. And was advise by our agent that the TOP will be delay to 2nd quarter of next year. Have you guys heard of it?
I think the agent just want to protect himself. By looking at it now, I personally think they can complete by 1Q. The developer would very much want to collect money asap as TQ is under deferred payment scheme.

[Unregistered 101]

I own a unit at stack 67. My agent told me that the developer have told them to inform the new buyer from Q1 delay to Q2. That why I asking whether anyone of your agent got inform you or not. Sigh, still thought can go in early. But now dream is shatter.

[Just bought]

I own a unit at stack 67. My agent told me that the developer have told them to inform the new buyer from Q1 delay to Q2. That why I asking whether anyone of your agent got inform you or not. Sigh, still thought can go in early. But now dream is shatter.


My agent actually mentioned to me when I bought TQ one month ago that the TOP will be around end Q1/beginning Q2. Verbally, he said it will be somewhere Mar or Apr 09. Hope it is just a month delay and not a full THREE months (1Q) delay.

[Alan Tam]

I own a unit at stack 67. My agent told me that the developer have told them to inform the new buyer from Q1 delay to Q2. That why I asking whether anyone of your agent got inform you or not. Sigh, still thought can go in early. But now dream is shatter.
Hi 101, Good house is worth waiting for... just a matter of two, three months, no problem la, after all everyone of us have been waited for more than a year. Regards,

[TQ1]

Hi 101, Good house is worth waiting for... just a matter of two, three months, no problem la, after all everyone of us have been waited for more than a year. Regards,

Hope the TOP will be beginning of Q2 and not end of Q2. No choice, have to extend my rental for another 3 months. Sigh...

[Unregistered661]

just checked my contract, expected date of completion shall be no later than 30 June of 2010. is that date of TOP?

[UnregisteredTQ]

just checked my contract, expected date of completion shall be no later than 30 June of 2010. is that date of TOP?

That date (Yes, that is the TOP date) is the contractual commitment from the developer to the owners. Any delay beyond this date will have legal complication. Usually the actual TOP will come around 12 months or earlier than the date on the contract.

[Alan Tam]

Went to TQ this afternoon, everything seem to be moving at a fast pace. Look like is going to complete as scheduled. Any feedback on the wooden plank for the planter, since the last discussion on the water retention and termite problem?

[The Truthful One]

Went to TQ this afternoon, everything seem to be moving at a fast pace. Look like is going to complete as scheduled. Any feedback on the wooden plank for the planter, since the last discussion on the water retention and termite problem?
It seems like there will be a tendency of water retention as the planter area is not covered. Sigh. Unless the vendor can ensure that there is a possibility of water drainage in the event of rain, seems like laying pebble will be the next best option.

[mw]

don't worry about water retention...all planters will come with proper drainage in condo. not to mention rain but day to day watering of plants. Termites, i suppose the planks can be chemically treated.

[Just bought]

Went to TQ this afternoon, everything seem to be moving at a fast pace. Look like is going to complete as scheduled. Any feedback on the wooden plank for the planter, since the last discussion on the water retention and termite problem?

Happen to pass by yesterday afternoon. Saw workers were still busying working fixing up the windows on Stack 63. Also saw alot of materials (should be the floor tiles) piling up at the stack facing buangkok drive. I think the contractors were pushing for early completion since contruction costs are stabilizing now.

[URA]

Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of August 2008

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
The Quartz ....... OCR ....... 15 ............................. 725 ................ 559 ............... 832

[Peter Pan]

don't worry about water retention...all planters will come with proper drainage in condo. not to mention rain but day to day watering of plants. Termites, i suppose the planks can be chemically treated.
Any contact to call? Maybe can check with them the pricing and detail on the maintenance.Thanks.

[lookingfowardtostaying]

is it really going to be further delayed to 2Q09?? hope not... looking forward to staying in The Quartz actually... and hope it will be in time for my wedding...

[LA]

Went to TQ this afternoon, everything seem to be moving at a fast pace. Look like is going to complete as scheduled. Any feedback on the wooden plank for the planter, since the last discussion on the water retention and termite problem?
Hi Alan, just met up with my contractor for a quotation and he said the wooden plank for the planter is those that is used for the swiming pool where ppl wet themself first b4 plunging into the pool. The plank is layed as such that there will be another layer layed on the bottom to ensure the water is drained off to the piping from the planter. Those are high end wood and drys up easily. But still din like the idea of wooden plank. Most likely will leave the flooring as given and put some outdoor stone and plant to beautify the mini planter.
Any idea if TQ allows us to hang our clothes out of the window since some condo doesnt allow the owner to do so. Dryer tends to make the clothe more crumpled.??

[Kenshin]

Hi Alan, just met up with my contractor for a quotation and he said the wooden plank for the planter is those that is used for the swiming pool where ppl wet themself first b4 plunging into the pool. The plank is layed as such that there will be another layer layed on the bottom to ensure the water is drained off to the piping from the planter. Those are high end wood and drys up easily. But still din like the idea of wooden plank. Most likely will leave the flooring as given and put some outdoor stone and plant to beautify the mini planter.
Any idea if TQ allows us to hang our clothes out of the window since some condo doesnt allow the owner to do so. Dryer tends to make the clothe more crumpled.??

Enquired with URA, said putting planks over planter is not allowed unless write in to URA and developer/MCST once formed and also need to pay some development charges. Is it really okie to put wodden planks over? Very confused now as a lot of people doing that.

[TQ1]

Enquired with URA, said putting planks over planter is not allowed unless write in to URA and developer/MCST once formed and also need to pay some development charges. Is it really okie to put wodden planks over? Very confused now as a lot of people doing that.

Based on the above information, I think for those who are interested to put wooden plank should first write in to the developer for approval before doing the installation. Not too sure about the development charge incur but I think can easily verify with ERA/Guocoland later. But if I am not wrong, the agent did not mention anything about the development charge previously. Maybe we can ask for a waiver next time.

[Alan Tam]

Hi Alan, just met up with my contractor for a quotation and he said the wooden plank for the planter is those that is used for the swiming pool where ppl wet themself first b4 plunging into the pool. The plank is layed as such that there will be another layer layed on the bottom to ensure the water is drained off to the piping from the planter. Those are high end wood and drys up easily. But still din like the idea of wooden plank. Most likely will leave the flooring as given and put some outdoor stone and plant to beautify the mini planter.
Any idea if TQ allows us to hang our clothes out of the window since some condo doesnt allow the owner to do so. Dryer tends to make the clothe more crumpled.??
Thanks LA, you may need to put a lot of pebble stone to level the planter as it is quite deep in.
Hang up your clothes once the dryer is done, than it will not be crumpled.

[mw]

putting pebbles might not be a solution. check first..planters normally comes with restricition on loadings. unlike the unit itself or blacony, structurally it is less solid and will have limitations on weight..to level up with pebbles might not be advisable. do check with the developers first on feasibility..

[Unreg¡stered]

Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of August 2008

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
The Quartz ....... OCR ....... 15 ............................. 725 ................ 559 ............... 832
Wah!
$832psf!
Why so high?

[Good]

Wah!
$832psf!
Why so high?
That's because TQ have plenty of selling points; next to MRT, 24 hrs NTUC, Kopitiam, Good layout, many extra carpark lots, Clean and neat New Town, TOP soon.

[Sniper]

Right. Pool facing. Low floor. $75X after discount. Before discount is $8XX. Thus Livia is actually lower costs. But Kovan residence will be more ex than TQ. But back to the old answers, both development are still far from TOP thus striking off my lists.


If you consider buying Livia, you should also consider Ris Grandeur.
Eventhough it's slightly further from MRT, I would say it's cheap considering its FREEHOLD status.

I myself just realise this Ris Grandeur project after viewing Livia show flat.
I initially thought Livia is a good buy but I am now consider Ris Grandeur is even better as it is FREEHOLD.

I think it's very rare to find high rise condo with freehold status, many freehold projects are low rise.
What's more it's ready unit and just 2 years old.

[consistent]

Wah!
$832psf!
Why so high?
or should it be $725 psf? for the ghost month, such sales achievement is encouraging.

[Median price]

or should it be $725 psf? for the ghost month, such sales achievement is encouraging.

$725 is the median price of TQ for the month of August.

[subsale]

$725 is the median price of TQ for the month of August.

sub-sale now for TQ high floor only $630... im waiting to get at $600

[Unregistered2]

sub-sale now for TQ high floor only $630... im waiting to get at $600
we certainly look forward to welcoming you as a TQ owner soon.

[Alan Tam]

sub-sale now for TQ high floor only $630... im waiting to get at $600
Well, if you can get at $600 psf, than that will be a good buy for TQ. Anyway you got the right choice.;)

[Unreg¡stered]

Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of August 2008

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
The Quartz ....... OCR ....... 15 ............................. 832 ................ 725 ............... 559
$832psf! Another high for TQ! Swee!

[Freehold]

$832psf! Another high for TQ! Swee!


Congrats, if a 99-year leasehold project can go that high, the freehold ones will go even higher.

[789]

Congrats, if a 99-year leasehold project can go that high, the freehold ones will go even higher.
not necessarily so. depends on location and a lot of other factors.

[Freehold]

not necessarily so. depends on location and a lot of other factors.


Most freehold condos are located quite remote (bukit timah, east coast, etc), and no matter how far they are located, in general they command much higher price.

When selling their units, freehold owners don't have time pressure.
This is not the case for 99-yrs leasehold as the value of the units (i.e. the tenure) will erode with time.

[789]

Most freehold condos are located quite remote (bukit timah, east coast, etc), and no matter how far they are located, in general they command much higher price.

When selling their units, freehold owners don't have time pressure.
This is not the case for 99-yrs leasehold as the value of the units (i.e. the tenure) will erode with time.
freehold properties in telok kurau are not expensive. so are those in geylang. but in general, do agree with your view that freehold owners don't have time pressure.

[New TQ Owner]

Seem that TQ is a good choice compare with some other condo. It has most of the requirement that I want; 3 mins to MRT, 24 hours NTUC, near to town centre, not so ulu, nice layout, full facilities, more than enough underground carpark lots and low maintenance fee.

[Unregistered1]

Seem that TQ is a good choice compare with some other condo. It has most of the requirement that I want; 3 mins to MRT, 24 hours NTUC, near to town centre, not so ulu, nice layout, full facilities, more than enough underground carpark lots and low maintenance fee.


u agent or what? how you know low maiteneance fee..not even top and committee not formed..how to tell...based on number of units??

low how low...any indicative?

[New TQ owner]

u agent or what? how you know low maiteneance fee..not even top and committee not formed..how to tell...based on number of units??

low how low...any indicative?
I am a new TQ owner, I was told by my agent the maintenance fee is about $190 to $210 per month.

I think given total units of 625 x $200 (ave) = $125,000 per month for maintenance should be more than enough.

[Unregistered?]

I am a new TQ owner, I was told by my agent the maintenance fee is about $190 to $210 per month.

I think given total units of 625 x $200 (ave) = $125,000 per month for maintenance should be more than enough.

not exactly..9 blocks high rise minimum 2 lifts each. swimming pool, landscaping, 24 hours security, common area cleaning and maintenence including electricity, tennis gym etc etc..sinking fund and others for future repainting..normally within 5 years..$200 is tough to accumulate enough for future without topping up ..of cos the argument will be very little maintenance for first few years because practically everything new..simple analogy will be a brand new car..don't have to bother first 3 years but subsequently a fair bit needs to be done..

Developer will not pay after warranty period is over..

[Unknown]

not exactly..9 blocks high rise minimum 2 lifts each. swimming pool, landscaping, 24 hours security, common area cleaning and maintenence including electricity, tennis gym etc etc..sinking fund and others for future repainting..normally within 5 years..$200 is tough to accumulate enough for future without topping up ..of cos the argument will be very little maintenance for first few years because practically everything new..simple analogy will be a brand new car..don't have to bother first 3 years but subsequently a fair bit needs to be done..

Developer will not pay after warranty period is over..


How about Livia, anyone heard what will be the maintenance fee?
There are many more units there, so I suppose the maintenance fee will be lower.

[Un]

How about Livia, anyone heard what will be the maintenance fee?
There are many more units there, so I suppose the maintenance fee will be lower.


It is about $250 - $340 per month dependg on floor/size...
I thought Livia is good and it is lowest now among 99 yrs leasehold.

[I see]

not exactly..9 blocks high rise minimum 2 lifts each. swimming pool, landscaping, 24 hours security, common area cleaning and maintenence including electricity, tennis gym etc etc..sinking fund and others for future repainting..normally within 5 years..$200 is tough to accumulate enough for future without topping up ..of cos the argument will be very little maintenance for first few years because practically everything new..simple analogy will be a brand new car..don't have to bother first 3 years but subsequently a fair bit needs to be done..

Developer will not pay after warranty period is over..
so for devts with much fewer units and the same number of facilities, the maintenance will definitely be very much higher.

[mass]

It is about $250 - $340 per month dependg on floor/size...
I thought Livia is good and it is lowest now among 99 yrs leasehold.
most mass condos have lower maintenance fees than those smaller condos.

[Maint fees]

most mass condos have lower maintenance fees than those smaller condos.

The Quartz maintenance fees are ranging from $190 (1023sqft) to $255 ($1916sq ft). For majority of us staying around 1023 sq ft to 1,200 sq ft, maintenance fees should be at a low $200 which is very much affordable. (Almost similar to those staying in a executive HDB).

[mass]

The Quartz maintenance fees are ranging from $190 (1023sqft) to $255 ($1916sq ft). For majority of us staying around 1023 sq ft to 1,200 sq ft, maintenance fees should be at a low $200 which is very much affordable. (Almost similar to those staying in a executive HDB).
so if it is $255, then it is not tough to accumulate enough for the future like what someone said previously.

[Unregisted?]

so if it is $255, then it is not tough to accumulate enough for the future like what someone said previously.


it will be a concern if you are buying to stay..if for rental..it doesn't really matter as you can expense the fee from rental income...

[New TQ owner]

so if it is $255, then it is not tough to accumulate enough for the future like what someone said previously.
Right, more than enough, $255 x 625 units = $159,375 per month x 12 months = 1.9 million per year . I think no need so much to maintenance a condo.

[Unregistered?]

Right, more than enough, $255 x 625 units = $159,375 per month x 12 months = 1.9 million per year . I think no need so much to maintenance a condo.

so back to the question of low..from $190 to $255..that's a 35% different.

my point is at $255 it's not low anymore..most condo inclusive of sinking fund is around that price.

any idea what's the monthly sinking fund for Quartz or it's already in the $255???

[Unregistered1]

so back to the question of low..from $190 to $255..that's a 35% different.

my point is at $255 it's not low anymore..most condo inclusive of sinking fund is around that price.

any idea what's the monthly sinking fund for Quartz or it's already in the $255???


can someone do a quick calculation...

i) 3 shift security
ii) Pools maintenance
iii) Lifts maintenance assuming hydraulic
iv) Landscaping, roof terraces and water features
v) Electricity for common areas inclusive lift lobbies.
vi) Gym x 2 maintenance
vii) Cleaners for upkeeping
viii) Garbage contractors to clear on a daily basis
ix) maintenance for common bathroom at pool and gyms
x) Reserve funds for future or emergency
x) any others that i missed out


it's not fair to filter in the 22% electircity hike at this point for computation...so just based on the current fee before adjustment. that should be a fair guage of the monthly fee. and in any residence committee, it's only healthy to set aside a minimum of 10% to 15% for future or emergency..

[Norm]

can someone do a quick calculation...

i) 3 shift security
ii) Pools maintenance
iii) Lifts maintenance assuming hydraulic
iv) Landscaping, roof terraces and water features
v) Electricity for common areas inclusive lift lobbies.
vi) Gym x 2 maintenance
vii) Cleaners for upkeeping
viii) Garbage contractors to clear on a daily basis
ix) maintenance for common bathroom at pool and gyms
x) Reserve funds for future or emergency
x) any others that i missed out


it's not fair to filter in the 22% electircity hike at this point for computation...so just based on the current fee before adjustment. that should be a fair guage of the monthly fee. and in any residence committee, it's only healthy to set aside a minimum of 10% to 15% for future or emergency..

In the first two year after TOP, the general maintenance needed is minimum as everything is still new and the extra money will goes into the reserve fund. However, things will start to fail after that (common area doors, windows, lightings, walls, toilet, swimming pool, pump, etc, etc). 2xx is a norm in most condo.

[Unregistered1]

In the first two year after TOP, the general maintenance needed is minimum as everything is still new and the extra money will goes into the reserve fund. However, things will start to fail after that (common area doors, windows, lightings, walls, toilet, swimming pool, pump, etc, etc). 2xx is a norm in most condo.

yup..mentioned earlier minimum in first 2 years..those highlighted were day to day not major..will fall apart sooner if not kept in tag..

the point is "not cheap" ...if $2++ is the norm..then what's the difference between TQ and the rest in terms of maintenance..just quoting the fact that it was stressed in earlier thread about low maintenance fee..

[Advise]

yup..mentioned earlier minimum in first 2 years..those highlighted were day to day not major..will fall apart sooner if not kept in tag..

the point is "not cheap" ...if $2++ is the norm..then what's the difference between TQ and the rest in terms of maintenance..just quoting the fact that it was stressed in earlier thread about low maintenance fee..

If the maintenance is low, you will need to increase it to handle higher maintenance cost later. Voting to get the SP to agree on raising the maintenance fee is worst than moving a mountain. It's not going to happen. You will suffer later on because of this.

[Unknown]

If the maintenance is low, you will need to increase it to handle higher maintenance cost later. Voting to get the SP to agree on raising the maintenance fee is worst than moving a mountain. It's not going to happen. You will suffer later on because of this.


Well, I wouldn't bother too much about maintenance fee, I think the different between various condos would be no more than $100.
I would rather bother about some other important stuffs like location, surrounding env, access to public transport, leasehold vs freehold, etc.

[SIA]

Hi all Quartz owners,

Just to share with you. Photos taken this morning.

View from buangkok Drive
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/2902980653_c143624d4c_o.jpg

View toward Ponggol Park if you stay 8 floors and above, unblock by the fire station.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3262/2903825136_084201fff2_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/2902980807_a64bf4b21f_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3001/2903824998_bf7a446e92_o.jpg

[SIA]

more...

block 51 and showflat
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/2903820482_98f8d84271_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3063/2903820648_125d0f7e29_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2902976903_345a40a0ef_o.jpg

Block 53
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2902977251_ab57d78970_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3001/2902977471_bf53b426f0_o.jpg

[SIA]

and more...

Block 55
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3009/2903821662_0ab4242ebc_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/2903820978_8c62740188_o.jpg

Block 59
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/2902979809_d98914dc43_o.jpg

Block 63
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2902980261_fd9e3e137a_o.jpg

Block 67 & Swimming pool
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2903823932_5d47d6270d_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2903823444_33e154157b_o.jpg

[SIA]

and last but not least....

Sky Gym
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2902978815_b71530b16c_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3055/2903822056_3b8c7b706a_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3001/2903822488_4684d1a9e6_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2902978387_9c84bd56a4_o.jpg

sign outside the construction
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2903820344_84797276f0_o.jpg

[kal]

shld be at least 6-9mths more to TOP..

[Thank you]

and last but not least....

Sky Gym
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2902978815_b71530b16c_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3055/2903822056_3b8c7b706a_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3001/2903822488_4684d1a9e6_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2902978387_9c84bd56a4_o.jpg

sign outside the construction
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2903820344_84797276f0_o.jpg
Thank you, the photos were so well taken.

[TQ1]

and last but not least....

sign outside the construction
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2903820344_84797276f0_o.jpg

Hi SIA, thanks for the update. Anyone can estimate if the construction complete on 17th Mar 09, when will be the expected TOP? Usually how long will it takes to complete the inspection and ready for TOP?

[TX]

Hi SIA, thanks for the update. Anyone can estimate if the construction complete on 17th Mar 09, when will be the expected TOP? Usually how long will it takes to complete the inspection and ready for TOP?


Anyone know when the developer actually acquired the land?
Efffectively the longer the TOP, the more we lose as the longer period has been used up by developers to complete the project and this will certainly offset the 99 yrs.

[TX]

Hi SIA, thanks for the update. Anyone can estimate if the construction complete on 17th Mar 09, when will be the expected TOP? Usually how long will it takes to complete the inspection and ready for TOP?


Anyone know when the developer actually acquired the land?
Efffectively the longer the TOP, the more we lose as the longer period has been used up by developers to complete the project and this will certainly offset the 99 yrs.

[dont be stupid]

Anyone know when the developer actually acquired the land?
Efffectively the longer the TOP, the more we lose as the longer period has been used up by developers to complete the project and this will certainly offset the 99 yrs.

u such a moron....u dont live to stay dat long either
anyway dis property suks...only stupid ass wil buy

[TX]

u such a moron....u dont live to stay dat long either
anyway dis property suks...only stupid ass wil buy


Tha't true you won't live that long.
But you never know that after couple of yrs, you want to resell your unit for some reason (need money, upgrade to better condo, etc).
This will certainly affect the resell price as many buyers will normally take into account the remaining yrs of lease when they buy.

Now who is stupid here?

[Unknown]

u such a moron....u dont live to stay dat long either
anyway dis property suks...only stupid ass wil buy


I think this person just gets angry for he can't afford to buy condo and has to stay in HDB his entire life :P

[iridrium]

Anyone know when the developer actually acquired the land?
Efffectively the longer the TOP, the more we lose as the longer period has been used up by developers to complete the project and this will certainly offset the 99 yrs.

The tender was awarded in Jan 2005.

This is ususally the case with 99 LH as the construction period is part of the lease period. For some government tender, the lease are longer, like 103 years to account for the construction period.

In general, no sane developer will want to delay the completion of the projection once they started the construction. They would want to collect their payment asap, avoid cost overun, ability to sell ready units etc.

You can rest assured they will be rushing to deliver possesion to you.

[kennt]

[QUOTE=SIA]Hi all Quartz owners,

Just to share with you. Photos taken this morning.


View toward Ponggol Park if you stay 8 floors and above, unblock by the fire station.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3262/2903825136_084201fff2_o.jpg
QUOTE]

Thanks SIA for your great effort! May I know where you took this pixs? You gained access to TQ or is taken from the HDB opp?

I'm on block 51 pool facing....just hoping to get a view of Ponggol Park from my unit.

[kennt]

The tender was awarded in Jan 2005.

This is ususally the case with 99 LH as the construction period is part of the lease period. For some government tender, the lease are longer, like 103 years to account for the construction period.

In general, no sane developer will want to delay the completion of the projection once they started the construction. They would want to collect their payment asap, avoid cost overun, ability to sell ready units etc.

You can rest assured they will be rushing to deliver possesion to you.

Thanks for the info. But can you advise as per TQ1 question, what is the lead time for TOP given that the project completion is Mar09. I would very much want to know also.

[mrt]

congrats to all TQ owners. please read mr funny's "The MRT guide to home prices".

[Icekopi]

u such a moron....u dont live to stay dat long either
anyway dis property suks...only stupid ass wil buy

I think u suk more than this property by looking at your comment.

Who are u to say that all buyers of this property are stupid asses.

You are only making a fool of yourself and may I question what property do u own than to justify your intelligence.

Load of rubbish, please get out of this thread if you are not owners or genuine/potential buyers.

[kennt]

congrats to all TQ owners. please read mr funny's "The MRT guide to home prices".


$701psf.....Not bad for a new estate!

[SIA]

You're welcome.

I do not have access to TQ, but took these pic from the HDB opp TQ.
If you are staying 8 floor and above, you can be sure to see ponggol park or at least the greenery. You can even see as far as upper serangoon sec school, beside Rio Vista.
The height of the fire station is only up to 7 floor. That why we have a secret garden at the 8th floor unit in blk 51. There is one photo showing the roof of the fire station, I am taking that photo from the 8 floor HDB opp.

I jog at ponggol park almost every week and can see my unit from open field beside the playground, where the photo is showing.




Thanks SIA for your great effort! May I know where you took this pixs? You gained access to TQ or is taken from the HDB opp?

I'm on block 51 pool facing....just hoping to get a view of Ponggol Park from my unit.

[kennt]

You're welcome.

I do not have access to TQ, but took these pic from the HDB opp TQ.
If you are staying 8 floor and above, you can be sure to see ponggol park or at least the greenery. You can even see as far as upper serangoon sec school, beside Rio Vista.
The height of the fire station is only up to 7 floor. That why we have a secret garden at the 8th floor unit in blk 51. There is one photo showing the roof of the fire station, I am taking that photo from the 8 floor HDB opp.

I jog at ponggol park almost every week and can see my unit from open field beside the playground, where the photo is showing.

Thanks! I'm assured now :)

[Boi boi]

The tender was awarded in Jan 2005.

This is ususally the case with 99 LH as the construction period is part of the lease period. For some government tender, the lease are longer, like 103 years to account for the construction period.

In general, no sane developer will want to delay the completion of the projection once they started the construction. They would want to collect their payment asap, avoid cost overun, ability to sell ready units etc.

You can rest assured they will be rushing to deliver possesion to you.

Yeaps, 5 years of leasehold consumed le. Btw, anyone affected by the price falls mentioned by the URA flash estimates? Some units in TQ transacting below 680 at 650 psf levels now

[Unreg¡stered]

Yeaps, 5 years of leasehold consumed le. Btw, anyone affected by the price falls mentioned by the URA flash estimates? Some units in TQ transacting below 680 at 650 psf levels now
Yes, TQ is affected.

OCR estimates went up. TQ is in OCR, so should be affected. TQ should also go up.

[chia252]

You're welcome.

I do not have access to TQ, but took these pic from the HDB opp TQ.
If you are staying 8 floor and above, you can be sure to see ponggol park or at least the greenery. You can even see as far as upper serangoon sec school, beside Rio Vista.
The height of the fire station is only up to 7 floor. That why we have a secret garden at the 8th floor unit in blk 51. There is one photo showing the roof of the fire station, I am taking that photo from the 8 floor HDB opp.

I jog at ponggol park almost every week and can see my unit from open field beside the playground, where the photo is showing.

Thanks for your kind effort by posting the pictures up. Can I check the 8th floo opp TQ is equal to the 8th floor of the TQ when you took the photos from the HDB?? I am curious leh as it will be great to c such view as I am staying at 8th level facing the pool.

Kennt, which unit u are staying??? if u dun mind sharing...... we might be neighbours u know

[kennt]

Thanks for your kind effort by posting the pictures up. Can I check the 8th floo opp TQ is equal to the 8th floor of the TQ when you took the photos from the HDB?? I am curious leh as it will be great to c such view as I am staying at 8th level facing the pool.

Kennt, which unit u are staying??? if u dun mind sharing...... we might be neighbours u know

Sure...you got PM.

[The Truthful One]

Hey, thanks a lot Mr SIA. This is very encouraging to see that the expected TOP is 17 Mar 09. Which also mean to say, we may, tentatively be able to get the keys to our dream homes anytime from January onwards. Yeh Yeh!:cheers6: Do keep the photos coming because I am currently living so far away from TQ and its always encouraging to see speedy progress each time I check the forum.

[SIA]

Thanks for your kind effort by posting the pictures up. Can I check the 8th floo opp TQ is equal to the 8th floor of the TQ when you took the photos from the HDB?? I am curious leh as it will be great to c such view as I am staying at 8th level facing the pool.


Yes, the 8th floor in opp HDB is the same as 8th floor in TQ.
(The HDB opp is the one at bunagkok drive, not the one near MRT)
Although Blk 51 stand on a higher ground, it start at floor 03. The showflat is at floor 04.

Looking at the same pict of the fire station roof, you can also notice the secret garden at 8th floor in blk 69, it is just overlooking the roof of the fire station. (the secret garden for blk 51 is behind the narrow pillar).

Staying at 8th floor will have an unblock view of the greenery at ponggol park. But due to viewing at an angle down (top looking down), you cannot see the jogging track at ponggol park. you need to be at least 10 floor and above to be able to see the track or pond.

Hi chia252, are you the one who email me before? I have a contact in my yahoo mail that look like this c***v***y***@yahoo.com.sg.

[stack 15]

$701psf.....Not bad for a new estate!

Hi there, this is a very useful document. May I know where can i find more of such useful stuff? Thanks!

[kennt]

Hi there, this is a very useful document. May I know where can i find more of such useful stuff? Thanks!

I got it from Mr Funny in the general discussion thread. :D

http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php?t=4922

[Property Analyst]

I got it from Mr Funny in the general discussion thread. :D

http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php?t=4922


When comparing condos near MRT, we can't just blindly compare it by how long it takes to walk to the nearest MRT station.

For example, many people keep saying that The Quarts is better as compared to Livia because it's just 3 mins away to MRT whereas Livia is 8 mins.

I think it depends, if you work in city (City Hall & Raffles Place), then I would say Livia is better because you don't need to change train.
You need to walk 3-5 mins to change train alone, not to mention the waiting time for the next train.
Also most of the time you get a seat when you ride from Pasir Ris MRT, this is not the case for Buangkok MRT.

If you work in Dhoby Gaut or Harbourfront, then The Quarts is surely better.

All these factors need to be taken into account, each buyer need to carefully match with their own needs (especially where they work).
As you can read from the article itself, you can conclude that each MRT station has different value.

[kennt]

When comparing condos near MRT, we can't just blindly compare it by how long it takes to walk to the nearest MRT station.

For example, many people keep saying that The Quarts is better as compared to Livia because it's just 3 mins away to MRT whereas Livia is 8 mins.

I think it depends, if you work in city (City Hall & Raffles Place), then I would say Livia is better because you don't need to change train.
You need to walk 3-5 mins to change train alone, not to mention the waiting time for the next train.
Also most of the time you get a seat when you ride from Pasir Ris MRT, this is not the case for Buangkok MRT.

If you work in Dhoby Gaut or Harbourfront, then The Quarts is surely better.

All these factors need to be taken into account, each buyer need to carefully match with their own needs (especially where they work).
As you can read from the article itself, you can conclude that each MRT station has different value.

Well...we are living in a ever changing world unlike the old days. Your job may not last you for the next 5-10 years. My take is, buy a property with your heart and most importantely YOU like it. Livia is not too bad but I still prefer to stay in the NE.

[Property Analyst]

Well...we are living in a ever changing world unlike the old days. Your job may not last you for the next 5-10 years. My take is, buy a property with your heart and most importantely YOU like it. Livia is not too bad but I still prefer to stay in the NE.


Existing MRT lines will not change in a very long years to come. Govt may build new ones but unlikely to touch the existing ones.
And as for the job, I agree with you that it may change, but at least the business line you are in will hardly change.

For example if you work in the banking and financial sectors, most offices are located nearby Raffles Place and Tanjong Pagar MRT.
As for oil and gas companies, most offices are located near Harbour Front and Jurong MRT.
These office locations will not change in a very long years to come as well for the same reason that they have invested significant amount of money for the buildings and infrastructure.

Last point I agree with you that finally every buyer will buy whatever they like, but the above point is worth a consideration when buying property.

[only TQ]

Well...we are living in a ever changing world unlike the old days. Your job may not last you for the next 5-10 years. My take is, buy a property with your heart and most importantely YOU like it. Livia is not too bad but I still prefer to stay in the NE.
Like Kennt, livia is not too bad, but i still prefer Quartz. Anyway, sometimes when you buy a property, you buy it because it instantly makes you feel at home. Quartz gives me just that feeling.

[really?]

When comparing condos near MRT, we can't just blindly compare it by how long it takes to walk to the nearest MRT station.

For example, many people keep saying that The Quarts is better as compared to Livia because it's just 3 mins away to MRT whereas Livia is 8 mins.

I think it depends, if you work in city (City Hall & Raffles Place), then I would say Livia is better because you don't need to change train.
You need to walk 3-5 mins to change train alone, not to mention the waiting time for the next train.
Also most of the time you get a seat when you ride from Pasir Ris MRT, this is not the case for Buangkok MRT.

If you work in Dhoby Gaut or Harbourfront, then The Quarts is surely better.

All these factors need to be taken into account, each buyer need to carefully match with their own needs (especially where they work).
As you can read from the article itself, you can conclude that each MRT station has different value.
oh, did people really compare Quartz with Livia? that's interesting.

[New observer]

Existing MRT lines will not change in a very long years to come. Govt may build new ones but unlikely to touch the existing ones.
And as for the job, I agree with you that it may change, but at least the business line you are in will hardly change.

For example if you work in the banking and financial sectors, most offices are located nearby Raffles Place and Tanjong Pagar MRT.
As for oil and gas companies, most offices are located near Harbour Front and Jurong MRT.
These office locations will not change in a very long years to come as well for the same reason that they have invested significant amount of money for the buildings and infrastructure.

Last point I agree with you that finally every buyer will buy whatever they like, but the above point is worth a consideration when buying property.


It is not true that your business Line/industry will not change. It's more your function that will not change. You can be a programmer in a bank, but can easily switch to a programmer in an IT services firm. Similarly for a Finance Mgr, Sales Manager etc.

Even if you remain within the same industry, it is also not true that banking and financial sectors are usually in Raffles Place and Tanjong Pager. Banks have many branches and only if you work in the HQ, then your offices will be in town area. Increasingly, we also have companies moving out of expensive rental places to away from town areas like Chai Chee and Tuas.

So end of the day, it boils down to whether you like the property and the surrounding area.

[kennt]

Existing MRT lines will not change in a very long years to come. Govt may build new ones but unlikely to touch the existing ones.
And as for the job, I agree with you that it may change, but at least the business line you are in will hardly change.

For example if you work in the banking and financial sectors, most offices are located nearby Raffles Place and Tanjong Pagar MRT.
As for oil and gas companies, most offices are located near Harbour Front and Jurong MRT.
These office locations will not change in a very long years to come as well for the same reason that they have invested significant amount of money for the buildings and infrastructure.

Last point I agree with you that finally every buyer will buy whatever they like, but the above point is worth a consideration when buying property.

Good analysis..but sorry...it doesn't apply to me.

[chia252]

Yes, the 8th floor in opp HDB is the same as 8th floor in TQ.
(The HDB opp is the one at bunagkok drive, not the one near MRT)
Although Blk 51 stand on a higher ground, it start at floor 03. The showflat is at floor 04.

Looking at the same pict of the fire station roof, you can also notice the secret garden at 8th floor in blk 69, it is just overlooking the roof of the fire station. (the secret garden for blk 51 is behind the narrow pillar).

Staying at 8th floor will have an unblock view of the greenery at ponggol park. But due to viewing at an angle down (top looking down), you cannot see the jogging track at ponggol park. you need to be at least 10 floor and above to be able to see the track or pond.

Hi chia252, are you the one who email me before? I have a contact in my yahoo mail that look like this c***v***y***@yahoo.com.sg.

u staying at blk 51 too? unit number can share

[chia252]

anyone out there knows whether north vista pri sch ia a gd sch or nt as it near TQ thinking of enrolling my kids there

[Unreg¡stered]

anyone out there knows whether north vista pri sch ia a gd sch or nt as it near TQ thinking of enrolling my kids there
This year is the first year for North Vista Primary School. Next year is second year. It is not a good or a bad school. It is a school.

[Unregistered111]

It is not true that your business Line/industry will not change. It's more your function that will not change. You can be a programmer in a bank, but can easily switch to a programmer in an IT services firm. Similarly for a Finance Mgr, Sales Manager etc.

Even if you remain within the same industry, it is also not true that banking and financial sectors are usually in Raffles Place and Tanjong Pager. Banks have many branches and only if you work in the HQ, then your offices will be in town area. Increasingly, we also have companies moving out of expensive rental places to away from town areas like Chai Chee and Tuas.

So end of the day, it boils down to whether you like the property and the surrounding area.


80-90 % of all tall buildings in Singapore are located nicely nearby City Hall, Raffles Place and Tanjong Pagar MRT. Maybe most of them are banking & financial institutions, I don't know, but I think it doesn't really matter what their business lines are.

What really mater is the fact there are many more people working in this locations than any other area.

[Unregistered111]

80-90 % of all tall buildings in Singapore are located nicely nearby City Hall, Raffles Place and Tanjong Pagar MRT. Maybe most of them are banking & financial institutions, I don't know, but I think it doesn't really matter what their business lines are.

What really mater is the fact there are many more people working in this locations than any other area.


Sorry I think I have to use the term "professional" rather than "people" as most condo owners are professional.
If we just use "people", I think Jurong beats the CBD as there are many factory workers there :P

[professional?]

if you mind making the MRT exchange to reach City Hall or Raffles Place, of course it will be a concern for you. But obviously for most TQ owners, this is not a concern, or not a major concern. the bottomline is, go for properties that suit your needs. we can continue with the argument and yet there is no conclusion because we are talking from different viewpoint.

[SIA]

u staying at blk 51 too? unit number can share

Yes, I will email you.

[wonder why]

Went to the showroom today and the agent told me that the stack 20, 21, 8 and 10 till now the developer has not release yet. Can anyone comfirm this. I thought it only left stack 32 to 36.

[Kovan]

Good analysis..but sorry...it doesn't apply to me.

Hi, Kovan Melody at 731 psf, more convenient location with better surroundings. Hurry! Pay 30 psf for better long term potential!

[Unregistered123ttt]

Hi, Kovan Melody at 731 psf, more convenient location with better surroundings. Hurry! Pay 30 psf for better long term potential!

Kovan Melody is a joke. The road outside jammed everyday and heavy traffic. And looks terrible.

[Unregisteredqqq]

Went to the showroom today and the agent told me that the stack 20, 21, 8 and 10 till now the developer has not release yet. Can anyone comfirm this. I thought it only left stack 32 to 36.
Anyone bought any of this stack 20,21,8 and 10? Please share...

[UnregisteredSP]

Hi, Kovan Melody at 731 psf, more convenient location with better surroundings. Hurry! Pay 30 psf for better long term potential!

Stupid Agent!!!

[HappyCL]

A monthly compilation on the construction status for The Quartz can be seen here since June 2007.

Owner for Block 55 Stack 11.

Enjoy...
http://happyrichway.com/blog/?p=60

[curious]

anyone can tell me what's the length of the main swimming pool?

[Unregistered123]

anyone can tell me what's the length of the main swimming pool?
i belived is 50 meter

[pasir gudang]

there is a whole stretch of petrochemical factories in pasir gudang just opposite punggol. It spews harmful wierd smelling chemicals to singapore when the wind blows over. I moved out of punggol as i cud nt stand the stench.

[fishmate]

there is a whole stretch of petrochemical factories in pasir gudang just opposite punggol. It spews harmful wierd smelling chemicals to singapore when the wind blows over. I moved out of punggol as i cud nt stand the stench.

This is buangkok not ponggol lah. U sure there is wierd smell?? I always go fishing in ponggol but how come I never encounter such smell?

[far]

buangkok is at the fringe of hougang. punggol is far away from buangkok.

[Sengkang]

buangkok is at the fringe of hougang. punggol is far away from buangkok.

I stay in Seng kang for the past 10 years. Never smell any chemical. Buangkok is even further away. Thus confirm no smell.

[Chong Foo]

I stay in Seng kang for the past 10 years. Never smell any chemical. Buangkok is even further away. Thus confirm no smell.
Aiya, this people try to say something only lah...I stay in there for the last 3 years never smell anything of chemical. He must be joking only.

[ex resident]

i m nt tryng to bring punggol down as i was ex resident. The smell frm the factories in PG is so bad that i have to close all dr n windows the mment i enter house. Smell usually at nite. Go to punggol jetty at nite n u knw wat i mean. The smell can travel all the way to pasir ris so i m surprised seng kang doesnt get it. I cnsultd NEA on ths n even wrote to press (my article came out). NEA cnfirmed sulphur dioxide n nitrogen oxide n i thk other chemicals in e air but dare nt reveal levels. Be a judge urself just go to blk 193 n u will understand wat i mean
Aiya, this people try to say something only lah...I stay in there for the last 3 years never smell anything of chemical. He must be joking only.

[Icekopi]

i m nt tryng to bring punggol down as i was ex resident. The smell frm the factories in PG is so bad that i have to close all dr n windows the mment i enter house. Smell usually at nite. Go to punggol jetty at nite n u knw wat i mean. The smell can travel all the way to pasir ris so i m surprised seng kang doesnt get it. I cnsultd NEA on ths n even wrote to press (my article came out). NEA cnfirmed sulphur dioxide n nitrogen oxide n i thk other chemicals in e air but dare nt reveal levels. Be a judge urself just go to blk 193 n u will understand wat i mean

I believe its true, me and my wife used to stay in BLK 2XX and although not everyday we did notice some weird smell on certain nights after work.

Anyway flat sold and waiting to move into TQ.

Cheers

[Mick]

SK got the smell also but not as strong as Punggol. Punggol first hand smell, SK got less as more people move to Punggol and breathe in and out, then filter it, and then SK will get these but they have been filtered, so not as bad. Something needs to be done about it in Punggol, but it orignates from the factories in Malaysia, so what can you do about it?

[Fishmate]

i m nt tryng to bring punggol down as i was ex resident. The smell frm the factories in PG is so bad that i have to close all dr n windows the mment i enter house. Smell usually at nite. Go to punggol jetty at nite n u knw wat i mean. The smell can travel all the way to pasir ris so i m surprised seng kang doesnt get it. I cnsultd NEA on ths n even wrote to press (my article came out). NEA cnfirmed sulphur dioxide n nitrogen oxide n i thk other chemicals in e air but dare nt reveal levels. Be a judge urself just go to blk 193 n u will understand wat i mean


Wah pian....travel until Pasir Ris? Sure boh? Anyway this is the 1st time i heard abt this. :)

[Seng Kang]

Wah pian....travel until Pasir Ris? Sure boh? Anyway this is the 1st time i heard abt this. :)

Ya la. I think this guy work in the petro chemical factory in Jurong island. Smell too much chemical. Thus everything also smell like chemical.

[Unreg¡stered]

SK got the smell also but not as strong as Punggol. Punggol first hand smell, SK got less as more people move to Punggol and breathe in and out, then filter it, and then SK will get these but they have been filtered, so not as bad. Something needs to be done about it in Punggol, but it orignates from the factories in Malaysia, so what can you do about it?

Wah pian....travel until Pasir Ris? Sure boh? Anyway this is the 1st time i heard abt this. :)
I have stayed in The Rivervale, the condo opposite Punggol Pond/Park, for the last 8 years. The air has always been very good.

[ex resident]

i am glad u realise that. Many still dont know where the weird smell comes frm. When the wind comes southwards, u will be breathng in the harmful fumes. My wife even sufferd headaches the time we lived in punggol. To those who dont believe me and want to cnfirm it, just take a drive to punggol jetty late at nite and the smell there is a lot worse. I even took some pictures of the very thick chimney smokes turning into huge masses of dark chemical clouds n driftng to singapore. Really scary. Go to blk 178 or blk 193 in punggol on high floor n see wat i mean. This is not a joke.
I believe its true, me and my wife used to stay in BLK 2XX and although not everyday we did notice some weird smell on certain nights after work.

Anyway flat sold and waiting to move into TQ.

Cheers

[ex resident]

i dont work on jurong island n i m nt joking about this
Ya la. I think this guy work in the petro chemical factory in Jurong island. Smell too much chemical. Thus everything also smell like chemical.

[ex resident]

the worst part is our govt cant do anything coz the factories are in Malaysia. I am very surprised so many other people dont knw about this
SK got the smell also but not as strong as Punggol. Punggol first hand smell, SK got less as more people move to Punggol and breathe in and out, then filter it, and then SK will get these but they have been filtered, so not as bad. Something needs to be done about it in Punggol, but it orignates from the factories in Malaysia, so what can you do about it?

[Punggol]

Yes I agree about the smell. I live in block 16X / high floor and have experienced the wierd smell many times at night.

But you get used to it. Havent seen any health effects on my family. Just irritating. Anyway the smell isnt half as bad as the cooking smell coming from my Chinese neighbour's kitchen downstairs. Got to adjust to all these things living in HDB.

[kennt]

Guys, let's move on.......I don't think Buangkok is affected by it :beats-me-man:

[Unreg¡stered]

Yes I agree about the smell. I live in block 16X / high floor and have experienced the wierd smell many times at night.

But you get used to it. Havent seen any health effects on my family. Just irritating. Anyway the smell isnt half as bad as the cooking smell coming from my Chinese neighbour's kitchen downstairs. Got to adjust to all these things living in HDB.
But I don't stay in Punggol. I stay in The Rivervale in Sengkang.

I have never smell any bad air in the area around my condo. Is there bad air in Punggol? I don't know. I know the area around my place don't have.

[ex resident]

the petrochemical factories in pasir gudang operate 24hr a day but whether u smell the toxic depends on wind direction. The 2 years i lived in punggol, i sense the crap in the air 80% of the time usually in evenings n nite. I often travel to pasir ris n sk and also detect the same smell. My advise to u is to take a drive to punggol jetty one nite and recognise that smell. U will be shockd that the same smell can be detected in PR and even in Sembawang. Air pollutn like ths is no jokng matter. Health problems wont cme immediately but just a matter of time
But I don't stay in Punggol. I stay in The Rivervale in Sengkang.

I have never smell any bad air in the area around my condo. Is there bad air in Punggol? I don't know. I know the area around my place don't have.

[Unregistered5]

i hv bn living in pg since 2001, i stay at high floor, can see pasir gudang port and the chimney from the window, i open all my windows day and night, but have never find the air is bad, in fact all of my friends who hv visited me all praise for the unblock view and the breeze.

come and see and feel for yourself, may be different standard lah.

the polluted air or sound could only come from the new HDB construction site near the mrt

[nose doc]

u n ur family have a serious nose problem that needs tending to. Maybe it is a genetic defect. I think i can put a pile of dung outside ur window n u cant smell it.
i hv bn living in pg since 2001, i stay at high floor, can see pasir gudang port and the chimney from the window, i open all my windows day and night, but have never find the air is bad, in fact all of my friends who hv visited me all praise for the unblock view and the breeze.

come and see and feel for yourself, may be different standard lah.

the polluted air or sound could only come from the new HDB construction site near the mrt

[go n die]

u n ur family have a serious nose problem that needs tending to. Maybe it is a genetic defect. I think i can put a pile of dung outside ur window n u cant smell it.

u prepare to get nose cancer...must b stubborn oldman who had only days to live...moron

[u need a nose job]

who wants to have the same genetic defect as you and your family? can't differentiate shit from perfume and the smell of food from the smell of shit. i think you are already having nose cancer now, nothing to even prepare coz it is in your genes.....


u prepare to get nose cancer...must b stubborn oldman who had only days to live...moron

[buangkok]

this is buangkok, not punggol. punggol is so far away from buangkok i don't know why this has been brought up in the first place. like kennt said, please move on. Quartz is not affected.

[Unreg¡stered]

the petrochemical factories in pasir gudang operate 24hr a day but whether u smell the toxic depends on wind direction. The 2 years i lived in punggol, i sense the crap in the air 80% of the time usually in evenings n nite. I often travel to pasir ris n sk and also detect the same smell. My advise to u is to take a drive to punggol jetty one nite and recognise that smell. U will be shockd that the same smell can be detected in PR and even in Sembawang. Air pollutn like ths is no jokng matter. Health problems wont cme immediately but just a matter of time
But I don't stay in Punggol. I stay in The Rivervale condo in Sengkang. The air is really good.

Will you be asking the residents in Punggol to shift to Sengkang, especially to the area around Punggol Park?

[Wrong forum]

the petrochemical factories in pasir gudang operate 24hr a day but whether u smell the toxic depends on wind direction. The 2 years i lived in punggol, i sense the crap in the air 80% of the time usually in evenings n nite. I often travel to pasir ris n sk and also detect the same smell. My advise to u is to take a drive to punggol jetty one nite and recognise that smell. U will be shockd that the same smell can be detected in PR and even in Sembawang. Air pollutn like ths is no jokng matter. Health problems wont cme immediately but just a matter of time

Please go to other health related forum to discuss about your "crap" and smelly issues. This smelly issues can drag on and on if you don't put a stop here.

[Woodbridge nurse]

this is buangkok, not punggol. punggol is so far away from buangkok i don't know why this has been brought up in the first place. like kennt said, please move on. Quartz is not affected.

Buangkok got seow nang rite?

[Unreg¡stered]

Buangkok got seow nang rite?
Got meh?

Woodbridge? Yio Chu Kang/Jalan Kayu?

Oh! You mean the mental insitution at Buangkok Green? That is far away from Punggol Park area.

[orange tee]

All property agents stop your nonsense postings please.

[Unregistered1234]

Is Blk 67-34 or 67-32 a good buy. 1163sf at 740psf. Would it be very noisy as it is facing Buangkok Drive. Good thing is there are only 3 units per floor.

[too high]

740psf is high for such a lousy district n locatn.
Is Blk 67-34 or 67-32 a good buy. 1163sf at 740psf. Would it be very noisy as it is facing Buangkok Drive. Good thing is there are only 3 units per floor.

[quiet]

Is Blk 67-34 or 67-32 a good buy. 1163sf at 740psf. Would it be very noisy as it is facing Buangkok Drive. Good thing is there are only 3 units per floor.
buangkok is a relatively quiet district. good buy or not depends not only on pricing but on whether it meets your needs.

[Unreg¡stered]

Is Blk 67-34 or 67-32 a good buy. 1163sf at 740psf. Would it be very noisy as it is facing Buangkok Drive. Good thing is there are only 3 units per floor.
The whole Buangkok Drive (end to end) is a very quiet road. Sometime not even a car could be seen on it. Not sure why they built it as a 3+3 road.

[101]

The whole Buangkok Drive (end to end) is a very quiet road. Sometime not even a car could be seen on it. Not sure why they built it as a 3+3 road.
I think this road will link to the new KPE entrance/exit (not open yet) ...good for TQ residence who need to use the KPE

[Query]

With the poor economic situation, will Gucoland reduce their selling prices?

[Unreg¡stered]

With the poor economic situation, will Gucoland reduce their selling prices?
Now: Don't think so.
6 months later: Dunno. Need to observe the condition.

Anyway, it's all about holding power and what investment strategy they have - long term or short term. Need to check if Guocoland have enough financial muscles.

[units]

Now: Don't think so.
6 months later: Dunno. Need to observe the condition.

Anyway, it's all about holding power and what investment strategy they have - long term or short term. Need to check if Guocoland have enough financial muscles.
there aren't that many units left for guocoland to sell before TOP, and these units are supposedly the choiced units. you have to consider that too.

[URA]

Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of September 2008

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
The Quartz ....... OCR ....... 6 ............................... 841 ................ 738 ............... 694

[OMG]

Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of September 2008

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
The Quartz ....... OCR ....... 6 ............................... 841 ................ 738 ............... 694
OMG!
TQ has just broken its August record high of $832psf with a new record high of $841psf.
What's going on?

[Mass Market]

OMG!
TQ has just broken its August record high of $832psf with a new record high of $841psf.
What's going on?

This is because there is still room for mass market condo to grow or price sustain for the next 18 months unless situation get worsen. This is proven by the Aug 4.2 percent grown in HDB pricing and this support the mass market condo (mainly bought by HBD upgrader).

[Reg¡stered]

This is because there is still room for mass market condo to grow or price sustain for the next 18 months unless situation get worsen. This is proven by the Aug 4.2 percent grown in HDB pricing and this support the mass market condo (mainly bought by HBD upgrader).
Seems to be the case, judging from KR performance.

Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of September 2008

Project Name ..... Locality . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Kovan Residences . OCR ....... 4 ............................... 964 ................ 940 ............... 860

Wow!
KR has just broken August record high of $954psf with this new record high of $964psf.
Bravo!

[Quartzbie]

:ashamed1: Hi anyone, care to share if we can hang out our laundry outside the kitchen yard??:P

[Unregistered1]

:ashamed1: Hi anyone, care to share if we can hang out our laundry outside the kitchen yard??:P
Of course it can, if not how to dry the laundry.

[Unregistered3]

Of course it can, if not how to dry the laundry.

u dunno got such thingies as dryers meh? so long not expose no issues
..but ultimately depending on management committee. some badly managed like KM is unsightly..worst than HDB as clothings all over..

[??]

Visited TQ show room. wah lah, the kitchen so small that only allow one person space. The wall just right after your butt when you do cooking. I really dont know why still people spending 8++ psf to buy...may be they just want status. Dont care how they suffered when they cook.

[stupid agent]

u dunno got such thingies as dryers meh? so long not expose no issues
..but ultimately depending on management committee. some badly managed like KM is unsightly..worst than HDB as clothings all over..

i hate agents who always give "dryer" excuse when i complain the condo got no yard to dry clothes. "you dunno got such thing as dryer meh" is stupid agent's standard answer.

HELLO! my shirts cost $300, my pants $500. my wife's dresses cost at least $1000 each. each of her cheapest blouses cost at least $200. i haven't mentioned the cost of her undergarments yet.

all those clothes are made of expensive material that must be hand washed and air dried.

washer and dryer will destroy those clothes.

why don't you agents understand this??? do you agents all wear cheap clothes?

[smart agent]

Come on, HDB upgrader!
Wake up, if you really waer those expensive clothes, I will treat you differently
Agents ain't stupid, it is you refuse to wake up from your fantasy and thinking the 50 dollar shirt on your body worth 500 dollars soomhow!
Yes, you can fool yourself (forever if you like), but you can't fool us! get it!


i hate agents who always give "dryer" excuse when i complain the condo got no yard to dry clothes. "you dunno got such thing as dryer meh" is stupid agent's standard answer.

HELLO! my shirts cost $300, my pants $500. my wife's dresses cost at least $1000 each. each of her cheapest blouses cost at least $200. i haven't mentioned the cost of her undergarments yet.

all those clothes are made of expensive material that must be hand washed and air dried.

washer and dryer will destroy those clothes.

why don't you agents understand this??? do you agents all wear cheap clothes?

[Unregistered4]

They are many HEROs around. Property price wont drop even Singapore is in RECESSION now. Trying very hard to figure out, why people still buying even they know price will drop next year?????

[Unregi]

They are many HEROs around. Property price wont drop even Singapore is in RECESSION now. Trying very hard to figure out, why people still buying even they know price will drop next year?????
one good reason is, there is a genuine need for a condo. another is, given the unreliability of financial institutions and other investment products, where else to put your money in? under your pillow?

[Unregistered3]

i hate agents who always give "dryer" excuse when i complain the condo got no yard to dry clothes. "you dunno got such thing as dryer meh" is stupid agent's standard answer.

HELLO! my shirts cost $300, my pants $500. my wife's dresses cost at least $1000 each. each of her cheapest blouses cost at least $200. i haven't mentioned the cost of her undergarments yet.

all those clothes are made of expensive material that must be hand washed and air dried.

washer and dryer will destroy those clothes.

why don't you agents understand this??? do you agents all wear cheap clothes?

damn bloddy stupid..obviously you have never stay nor visited a condo in your life. It's standfard practices that no clothings shou;d be visible from outside.

if all dry clean..you don't even need to wash..why bother with yard or without..

[Reg¡stered]

They are many HEROs around. Property price wont drop even Singapore is in RECESSION now. Trying very hard to figure out, why people still buying even they know price will drop next year?????
Haven't figured it out?
Cos' OCR price will not drop. In fact, it is going up.

[Unreg¡stered]

Seems to be the case, judging from KR performance.
Wow!
Kovan Residences $964psf!!!

[Unregistered5]

Haven't figured it out?
Cos' OCR price will not drop. In fact, it is going up.Why the market react to the reccession so differently from the pass ? They are very majority of them still buying. I think the they are from very cash reach minority ENBLOCER making the different. So that mass market remain "strong" even in the reccession period and it never happen in the pass. Second group of minority buyers are foriegner. They are not willing to pay high rent inorder for landloard to cover their installment, so they buy.

[Reg¡stered]

Why the market react to the reccession so differently from the pass ? They are very majority of them still buying. I think the they are from very cash reach minority ENBLOCER making the different. So that mass market remain "strong" even in the reccession period and it never happen in the pass. Second group of minority buyers are foriegner. They are not willing to pay high rent inorder for landloard to cover their installment, so they buy.
Wah! You quite smart ah? Who taught you those answers?

[Investment Banker]

Why the market react to the reccession so differently from the pass ? They are very majority of them still buying. I think the they are from very cash reach minority ENBLOCER making the different. So that mass market remain "strong" even in the reccession period and it never happen in the pass. Second group of minority buyers are foriegner. They are not willing to pay high rent inorder for landloard to cover their installment, so they buy.


Please remember that the bulk of demand for property markets are coming from middle class who are mostly working professionals.

So recession will significantly affect the property market only when there are many occasion of salary decrease and retrenchment in the job market.

At least for now we haven't seen this happening in the job market.

[Question]

Please remember that the bulk of demand for property markets are coming from middle class who are mostly working professionals.

So recession will significantly affect the property market only when there are many occasion of salary decrease and retrenchment in the job market.

At least for now we haven't seen this happening in the job market.
Have you applied for a position in Marina Bay Sands?

[Unreg¡stered]

Have you applied for a position in Marina Bay Sands?
That jerk is a conman. Who want to employ him?

[ConMan]

That jerk is a conman. Who want to employ him?


Hey conman is here, looking for me? he he he

[HappyCL]

Watch The Quartz on YouTube. It is a compilation of the construction status from Jun 2007 to Sep 2008.

Also provided in the video, benefits of property investment.

Value Appreciation:
Jun 2006 - $529
Jun 2007 - $650
Jun 2008 - $800
.
.
.
Jun 2018 - $1xxx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJCWE9eHqlo

[Unreg¡stered]

Watch The Quartz on YouTube. It is a compilation of the construction status from Jun 2007 to Sep 2008.

Also provided in the video, benefits of property investment.

Value Appreciation:
Jun 2006 - $529
Jun 2007 - $650
Jun 2008 - $800
.
.
.
Jun 2018 - $1xxx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJCWE9eHqlo
So the price is moving up?
No wonder those idiots made.


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Property sub-sales net $95m profits
Third-quarter showing still strong but market will soften soon: Experts
Fiona Chan
Property Reporter
Wednesday, 22 October 2008

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Private home prices may have slid in the third quarter but the sub-sale market was still going strong.

Ninety-six per cent of owners who resold an uncompleted home between July and last month pocketed profits from the deals, according to new data by property consultancy Savills Singapore.

These transactions, officially known as sub-sales, occur when you buy a home and resell it before it is built. They are used as a proxy for property speculation because the owner resells the home without ever living in it.

Only 12 sub-sale transactions out of the 306 that Savills analysed in the quarter incurred a loss, amounting to just under $1 million of red ink. The rest made a total of $95.1 million in gains, Savills said.

This continues the trend in the first half of the year, when 97% of such deals turned in profits. But the profits seen in the third quarter were considerably narrower as home prices started softening more quickly.

Profitable sub-sellers made an average of $323,420 in the third quarter, but this was skewed upwards by a single large deal: a whopping $6.7 million profit from the sale of a 63rd-storey penthouse at The Sail @ Marina Bay.

Excluding this sale, the average gain was $301,784 - almost 40% lower than the average gain in the first half of the year. It works out to an average profit for each seller of about 30% over the purchase price.

Still, 'to be able to achieve such gains in a year when the property market has gone into a standstill is highly commendable', said Mr Ku Swee Yong, director of business development and marketing at Savills Singapore.

But in case would-be speculators become tempted by these gains, other consultants noted that the bulk of these deals probably occurred before the Sept 14 collapse of United States investment bank Lehman Brothers, which caused the financial crisis to take a sudden turn for the worse.

'The real estate market typically lags behind the stock market by six months or more, so we will probably start to see the real effect early next year,' said Mr Nicholas Mak, director of research and consultancy at Knight Frank.

'These profitable sub-sale transactions took place before the market hit the skids. It is extremely risky to go and speculate in the market right now.'

Most sellers who made a profit in the third quarter had originally bought their units in the last two years and benefited from the sharp run-up in prices in the period, said Mr Ku. While values have weakened somewhat this year, they are still generally higher than in 2006.

Sellers who held on to their units for a longer time before reselling them in the third quarter made more gains, Savills' data showed. Even those who had bought a unit as late as this year and offloaded it in the third quarter made an average gain of $98,600.

If they had sold the unit in the first half of the year, however, they would probably have doubled their gain.

The biggest profits of more than $1 million each were for units at The Sail @ Marina Bay, St Regis Residences and Cairnhill Residences.

On the flip side, sub-sale losses for the quarter averaged $76,820 for each loss-making deal. A unit at Watermark Robertson Quay chalked up the biggest loss of $207,552, while units at Soleil @ Sinaran, 8 @ Mt Sophia and One Amber were also sold at losses of more than $100,000 each.

All the losses were for units that had been bought last year or this year, according to Savills' data. Sub-sellers who had bought their units at the peak of property fever, between June and September last year, bled the most.

'In any case, there are always desperate sale cases even during good times,' Mr Ku noted.

The Sail @ Marina Bay had the largest number of sub-sales in the quarter - 19 - with each deal netting its seller an average profit of $1.1 million. There was one loss, of $62,890, for a second-floor unit.

Other projects with more than 10 sub-sales included Parc Emily in Dhoby Ghaut, Park Infinia at Wee Nam, Riveredge in Tanjong Rhu and The Esta in Marine Parade.

But the profits were not just confined to developments in the prime districts.

At Casa Merah in Tanah Merah, 10 sub-sales yielded an average profit of $100,351, while Atrium Residences in Geylang saw four sub-sales with an average gain of $54,556.

[Freehold]

Watch The Quartz on YouTube. It is a compilation of the construction status from Jun 2007 to Sep 2008.

Also provided in the video, benefits of property investment.

Value Appreciation:
Jun 2006 - $529
Jun 2007 - $650
Jun 2008 - $800
.
.
.
Jun 2018 - $1xxx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJCWE9eHqlo


Jun 2105 - ZERO (the 99 lease is over !)

[sengkang HDB upgrader]

Why would anyone buy this 99 leasehold property far away from the city at 841 psf, when one can buy the esta / one amber freehold projects close to the city at 800 psf... i just cannot understand the rationale..

[exactly the point]

For 800 to 900psf, can get a freehold or 999yr condo in the central zone (eg. citysquare, one st michael, beacon heights etc.). If outskirts condo can sell so high, it is good news for condos in the central that will fetch much higher...


Why would anyone buy this 99 leasehold property far away from the city at 841 psf, when one can buy the esta / one amber freehold projects close to the city at 800 psf... i just cannot understand the rationale..

[Unreg¡stered]

Why would anyone buy this 99 leasehold property far away from the city at 841 psf, when one can buy the esta / one amber freehold projects close to the city at 800 psf... i just cannot understand the rationale..
If one can buy a normal unit in The Esta or One Amber at $800psf, one would not have paid $841psf for The Quartz, though the Quartz is next to the MRT station.

Unless one is saying the $841psf buyer is stupid! I can confidently say this buyer is not stupid.

[CCR or RCR]

I would rathe buy a condo not so near MRT but close proximity to town than buy a condo far from town but close proximity to MRT for the same price in PSF. When people talk about location, proximity to town comes before proximity to MRT.....


If one can buy a normal unit in The Esta or One Amber at $800psf, one would not have paid $841psf for The Quartz, though the Quartz is next to the MRT station.

Unless one is saying the $841psf buyer is stupid! I can confidently say this buyer is not stupid.

[location]

I would rathe buy a condo not so near MRT but close proximity to town than buy a condo far from town but close proximity to MRT for the same price in PSF. When people talk about location, proximity to town comes before proximity to MRT.....

It depend on where do you work, and your children convenience to go to school and what neighbourhood you want mix with, the more 'ang mo' or more chinese.

I personally think staying in HDB town centre with more chinese give me more of those home, kampong feeling, rather than always try to pretent like 'ang mo' by staying in those area where alot of pretenders.

[near or far]

I would rathe buy a condo not so near MRT but close proximity to town than buy a condo far from town but close proximity to MRT for the same price in PSF. When people talk about location, proximity to town comes before proximity to MRT.....
if the condo not so near MRT does not have a good network of public transport, i don't think it is a good buy either.

[central is always winner]

wont go wrong buying pty in central. That is the safest bet jokes aside. Can u just imagine 10yr down the road how scarce land in central zone going to be? Roads in central mostly well connectd. I would rather live in central away frm mrt but have gd roads n bus routes than the a condo in ulu sengkang near sengkang mrt. Suppose preferences vary but in pty terms, central always has a higher intrinsic value that outskirt pty.
if the condo not so near MRT does not have a good network of public transport, i don't think it is a good buy either.

[Joe6816]

Why would anyone buy this 99 leasehold property far away from the city at 841 psf, when one can buy the esta / one amber freehold projects close to the city at 800 psf... i just cannot understand the rationale..


huh....someone talking about Esta/One Amber here?

[Unregisteredaka]

waste current talkng bout esta or one amber
huh....someone talking about Esta/One Amber here?

[near or far]

properties in central of course is the best. but the person said properties near town.

[near or far]

or close to city.

[Property Hunter]

wont go wrong buying pty in central. That is the safest bet jokes aside. Can u just imagine 10yr down the road how scarce land in central zone going to be? Roads in central mostly well connectd. I would rather live in central away frm mrt but have gd roads n bus routes than the a condo in ulu sengkang near sengkang mrt. Suppose preferences vary but in pty terms, central always has a higher intrinsic value that outskirt pty.


Except when the surrounding environment is so packed and crowded like Beacon Heights :)

I would prefer suburb with peaceful and quiet environment.
Also a lot of greneries to release your tension away after tiring day at the office.

[Property Hunter]

Why would anyone buy this 99 leasehold property far away from the city at 841 psf, when one can buy the esta / one amber freehold projects close to the city at 800 psf... i just cannot understand the rationale..


Don't fool us, average price for one amber is 1100 - 1300 psf.
If it cost 800 psf like what you said, I myself will certainly go for it as it is freehold.

[pty guru]

beacon heights anytime better than Quartz as it is in central.
Except when the surrounding environment is so packed and crowded like Beacon Heights :)

I would prefer suburb with peaceful and quiet environment.
Also a lot of greneries to release your tension away after tiring day at the office.

[Unregisteredwww]

Don't fool us, average price for one amber is 1100 - 1300 psf.
If it cost 800 psf like what you said, I myself will certainly go for it as it is freehold.

Exactly, now is ard $1100+ psf. The price of $800+ is year 2006.....wake up agents!

[Joe6816]

Exactly, now is ard $1100+ psf. The price of $800+ is year 2006.....wake up agents!


Look in classified. #18 selling 880psf

[Joe6816]

Don't fool us, average price for one amber is 1100 - 1300 psf.
If it cost 800 psf like what you said, I myself will certainly go for it as it is freehold.


Yes, some unit had come down to 800+

[Property Hunter]

beacon heights anytime better than Quartz as it is in central.


Beacon Heights is located at miserable corner of St Michael Rd.
In addtion to that, the neighbourhood is very packed, no greneries and no open space left. Anyone feel free please try to have a walk yourself and see what I mean.

It's certainly not good for staying, the distance with other buildings is very close to each other.
When you open your window, no good view but the neighbourhood buildings (and they are mostly old buildings).

[Property Hunter]

Beacon Heights is located at miserable corner of St Michael Rd.
In addtion to that, the neighbourhood is very packed, no greneries and no open space left. Anyone feel free please try to have a walk yourself and see what I mean.

It's certainly not good for staying, the distance with other buildings is very close to each other.
When you open your window, no good view but the neighbourhood buildings (and they are mostly old buildings).


Previously, I myself was very motivated to visit the Beacon Height showflat because it is 999 yrs project (I am very keen on 999 yrs or freehold project).

But only after I found out where it is located and how the surrounding environment looks like then I decide not to proceed.

[LOL]

beacon hts is mid tier condo in central n quartz is a mass mkt hdb condo in suburbs, utterly no comparison. I bet u dont even know kallang river runs alongside mar thoma rd where BH is and mrt station whch is 3 stops to dhoby ghaut is just minutes away. bH is just 5 to 7 min drive to city and marina area. For 800 to 900psf, it is a no brainer choosing BH to quartz for investment or whatever.
Previously, I myself was very motivated to visit the Beacon Height showflat because it is 999 yrs project (I am very keen on 999 yrs or freehold project).

But only after I found out where it is located and how the surrounding environment looks like then I decide not to proceed.

[#18]

Look in classified. #18 selling 880psf
Fùck you lah, Joe! Told you to advertise at $1,880psf, didn't I? Why did you change it to $880psf? You are really an useless agent!

[Haha]

Look in classified. #18 selling 880psf
Joe, the D15 forumers has just exposed your D15 Esta 650psf con job, now you run to D19 to con others on D15 OA? You are really a born-loser agent!

[Reg¡stered]

beacon hts is mid tier condo in central n quartz is a mass mkt hdb condo in suburbs, utterly no comparison. I bet u dont even know kallang river runs alongside mar thoma rd where BH is and mrt station whch is 3 stops to dhoby ghaut is just minutes away. bH is just 5 to 7 min drive to city and marina area. For 800 to 900psf, it is a no brainer choosing BH to quartz for investment or whatever.
If it is a no-brainer to choose BH, then why aren't people choosing BH? The reason is simple. BH is crap! If it isn't crap, then why BH agents need to come to other district thread to sell?

[use ur brains lah]

use ur brains lah, you think selling condo like selling curry puffs? already 150 units sold so far out of 212 units and launched for only a few weeks.


If it is a no-brainer to choose BH, then why aren't people choosing BH? The reason is simple. BH is crap! If it isn't crap, then why BH agents need to come to other district thread to sell?

[mislead]

beacon hts is mid tier condo in central n quartz is a mass mkt hdb condo in suburbs, utterly no comparison. I bet u dont even know kallang river runs alongside mar thoma rd where BH is and mrt station whch is 3 stops to dhoby ghaut is just minutes away. bH is just 5 to 7 min drive to city and marina area. For 800 to 900psf, it is a no brainer choosing BH to quartz for investment or whatever.
your minutes away is certainly very very misleading. residents will also have to walk through long dark lanes before they even see the main road. will you want to risk your family's security? if yes, then bh is definitely your choice. besides, this is not bh's thread. please go back to where you belong.

[lol]

use ur brains lah, you think selling condo like selling curry puffs? already 150 units sold so far out of 212 units and launched for only a few weeks.
so saleable then don't need to sell it on other threads.

[thick skin]

who is selling it to you? what cow hide skin you have. BH is out of your league coz you belong to the suburbs all your life....


so saleable then don't need to sell it on other threads.