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Arcachon
08-04-17, 22:52
1. Look at the Master Plan.

https://www.ura.gov.sg/maps/?service=MP

2. Look at the Gross Plot Ratio.

https://www.ura.gov.sg/uol/master-plan/View-Control-Plans/Building-Height-Plan

Gross Plot Ratio Storey Height Control
1.4 5
1.6 12
2.1 24
2.8 36
>2.8 >36

3. Look at the present building height.

Still don't understand PM for more detail.

lkm
09-04-17, 14:34
1. Look at the Master Plan.

https://www.ura.gov.sg/maps/?service=MP

2. Look at the Gross Plot Ratio.

https://www.ura.gov.sg/uol/master-plan/View-Control-Plans/Building-Height-Plan

Gross Plot Ratio Storey Height Control
1.4 5
1.6 12
2.1 24
2.8 36
>2.8 >36

3. Look at the present building height.

Still don't understand PM for more detail.

Good point. But East Coast has a lot of PR 2.8 but they rarely hit more than 20 storeys and probably will not go beyond with the airbase.

teddybear
09-04-17, 15:23
There are also many places with PR 1.4 that will never get raised (for various reasons)........
E.g. near VVIP residents, near Istana (those near Istana MUST have windows shields! You can't even open your windows wide open and there metal structures obstructing your view and winds into your house!)
Near good class bungalows areas!
Near highly classified compounds.......
Where else???


Good point. But East Coast has a lot of PR 2.8 but they rarely hit more than 20 storeys and probably will not go beyond with the airbase.

Kelonguni
09-04-17, 15:36
Good point. But East Coast has a lot of PR 2.8 but they rarely hit more than 20 storeys and probably will not go beyond with the airbase.

Low lying areas near Paya Lebar airbase plus Freehold should be hidden gems going by this.

Amber Woods
09-04-17, 18:50
It may be easier to spot older HDB flats with SERS potential because the government will increase its existing plot ratio after the SERS.

As for private developments, the government has stop increasing plot ratio while the estate is still standing. This is to prevent owners from receiving a sudden windfall. So unless the current development was built less than its allowable plot ratio or prices of the aging estate is so low compare to its surrounding areas, it is quite difficult to find older estate with comfortable premium for en bloc sale. Those estates which has potential had already en bloc since 1997. There are just that few estates which fail repeatedly to en bloc for various reasons.

Height limits has not much effect because if the plot ratio is say 2.8 with height limit at 20 storey; if the estate was built to its full plot ratio means that the estate is very compact like all newer developments with block so close to one another. If the height limit is say 36 storey, the blocks within the estate will be more space out. However, some developers may prefer not to build to its full height of 36 storey but instead build more compact to save costs. Tall building is more expensive to build.

Kelonguni
09-04-17, 19:12
But MND already tell us not to hope for HDB SERS. It will be very hard to spot one that is more or less guaranteed.

Even for HDB landed, the Govt can choose to let the lease lapse.

The worst thing is cannot buy a few and see which one strikes, unlike private. I believe the plot ratio works both ways. It might be possible to ask to increase ratio in line with the surrounding if the developer is willing to pay the development charges.


It may be easier to spot older HDB flats with SERS potential because the government will increase its existing plot ratio after the SERS.

As for private developments, the government has stop increasing plot ratio while the estate is still standing. This is to prevent owners from receiving a sudden windfall. So unless the current development was built less than its allowable plot ratio or prices of the aging estate is so low compare to its surrounding areas, it is quite difficult to find older estate with comfortable premium for en bloc sale. Those estates which has potential had already en bloc since 1997. There are just that few estates which fail repeatedly to en bloc for various reasons.

Height limits has not much effect because if the plot ratio is say 2.8 with height limit at 20 storey; if the estate was built to its full plot ratio means that the estate is very compact like all newer developments with block so close to one another. If the height limit is say 36 storey, the blocks within the estate will be more space out. However, some developers may prefer not to build to its full height of 36 storey but instead build more compact to save costs. Tall building is more expensive to build.

Arcachon
10-04-17, 02:36
There are a lot of HDB in Singapore, which one Selective En bloc Redevelopment Scheme (SERS) your guess is as good as mine.

Knowing how they think will help you narrow the HDB block likely to SERS.

Let me take you to where I used to stay, Macpherson Estate.

63 Circuit Rd 01 to 03 55.00 Standard 1967 $250,000.00 Apr 2017
19 Balam Rd 01 to 03 60.30 Standard 1967 $238,000.00 Mar 2017
62 Circuit Rd 07 to 09 56.00 Standard 1967 $276,000.00 Mar 2017
66 Circuit Rd 07 to 09 56.00 Standard 1967 $275,000.00 Feb 2017

Lease start in 1967 = 49 years lease Balance.

Rental

Jan 2017 Geylang 51 Circuit Road 2-Rm 1400.00
Jul 2016 Geylang 51 Circuit Road 3-Rm 2050.00

With Two MRT Line servicing the Estate.

PLAB moving to Changi after 15 years.

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17862622_10210207983408955_3182762600057847492_n.jpg?oh=cbe77b8f7d789e9f46daca9da26ebfe6&oe=59893AAD

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17800353_10210207983368954_6453491091152333481_n.jpg?oh=79be2a5c6bf2d062fc0acc2c077ee491&oe=59539D0A

Someone buy a 3 room HDB for S$300,000.

After 5 years rent out for S$1800 a month 21,600 a year x 44 years = S$950,400.

wait 10 years to Selective En bloc Redevelopment Scheme (SERS).

What is the lost or gain.

Arcachon
10-04-17, 02:51
HDB 3 Room BTO Min $280,000 Max $330,000. for 99 years lease.

https://www.srx.com.sg/hdb/bto

Arcachon
10-04-17, 15:50
Like that Singapore very cheap.

http://news.asiaone.com/news/business/heres-why-hong-kong-housing-so-expensive#xtor=CS3-17

Arcachon
13-04-17, 19:44
http://www.teoalida.com/singapore/serslist/#future-sers-sites

Height limit matter: blocks 210-224 built in phase II of Toa Payoh, 1975-1978, having large space between blocks were likely to get SERS and be redeveloped in 40-50 storey blocks, while MacPherson estate built in 1960-1965, despite of being older, was selected for MUP instead of SERS because the blocks were packed close apart, and the proximity of Paya Lebar airbase height limit of 18 floors, do not allow redevelopment in higher density. The only blocks demolished in MacPherson were 1/2-room rental blocks, demolished during 1990s.

MacPherson estate, although built in same time with Tanglin Halt, did not got any SERS to date, because of the proximity of Paya Lebar airbase which limit height to 18 floors. However, the 2013 announcement that Paya Lebar airbase will be closed, and the lack of other upgrading programmes after MUP done in 1993-1994, indicate that SERS will come in distant future.
There are 5574 dwelling units in the blocks 21-83 built in 1960s (excluding add-on blocks built 1990s), probably will be redeveloped in 2-3 phases, starting from late 2020s.
Can someone check if the MUP-upgraded lifts stop at every floor?

Arcachon
15-04-17, 12:29
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/hdb-leases-and-whats-in-store-for-retirement-as-society-ages?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&xtor=CS1-10#link_time=1492220854

Ng Jun Sen

Experts weigh in on how HDB flat owners should prepare for the future as their home ages with them, and how other places have dealt with lease expiry.
National Development Minister Lawrence Wong's blog post of March 24, in which he cautioned buyers of older resale flats against paying high prices on the assumption that their flats would be "Sers-ed", has set some home owners thinking and counting down the remaining years on their HDB flat leases.

Mr Wong made clear that the Selective En bloc Redevelopment Scheme (Sers) - under which the HDB acquires ageing blocks for redevelopment, compensates residents at market rates for their old flats and lets them buy new units nearby at subsidised rates - was never intended for all flats.

Interviews with home owners in three mature estates of Toa Payoh, Queenstown and Geylang - where, from 2014 to last year, there were the most resale transactions of flats with less than 60 years left on their 99-year lease - found that many had indeed expected a windfall from Sers. Mr Wong's word of caution has left young home owners - like the one who gave his name only as Mr Lim, 30, who bought a Lorong 8 Toa Payoh flat two years ago - wondering whether he will still have a home when his lease expires in 57 years.

A Queenstown resident, who owns a three-room Mei Ling Street flat that has 51 years of lease remaining, remains hopeful that he will be among the lucky minority to be picked. "They Sers-ed the Tanglin Halt area nearby. Shouldn't the Government pick us too?"

Then there is IT engineer Andy Zhang, 40, who broke the record last year for spending the most on a standard, non-terraced flat that is more than 40 years old. He paid $950,000 because the flat's location in Bukit Timah shortens his commute to his job in the city and means his seven-year-old daughter can walk to her primary school nearby. Still, he could not hide his look of concern when told the million-dollar flat will turn to zero value in 57 years' time, and the Government will have the right to retake his flat with no compensation.

Some experts believe that current flat monetisation options for the elderly may be insufficient for the ageing society in the long term. With another 43 years to go before the oldest HDB flats - in Stirling Road - turn 99, there is no need to rush a policy that will have a major impact on Singapore's successful public housing story.

A chart by Drea, which provides market analysis, showed that in Geylang, Toa Payoh and Queenstown, the average price of a low-floor unit is about the same for a 30-year-old flat as for a 50-year-old one. That suggests home buyers are currently insensitive towards the lease issue.

On Wednesday, Mr Wong once again addressed the issue of HDB leases, but, this time, he assured home owners that HDB flats can still be seen as retirement nest eggs as they "provide a good store of asset value, so long as you plan ahead and make prudent housing decisions".

ASSET ENHANCEMENT

There are historical reasons for why HDB flat owners expect the value of their home to keep rising. In the 1990s, when asset enhancement was a key goal of the Government, then Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong said in a 1992 speech: "It is in your interest to ensure that the value of your flats continues to rise." That was his argument for why flat owners should support the Government's upgrading programme.

In 1994, then Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew also spoke of HDB flats as investments: "I would start off with a five-room or an HDB executive... quickly, before my income ceiling takes me beyond that. You buy a flat in Bishan, it's going today for half a million. So I would get there first, stay five years, seven years, and then move out."

For years, HDB prices rose steadily. It was only when recessions hit Singapore around the turn of the century that resale prices went on a roller-coaster ride. By 2013, then National Development Minister Khaw Boon Wan signalled a need to relook the HDB flat's role as an asset. "Looking ahead, as we may no longer get the same kind of returns from reselling an HDB flat as in the past, how will its role as an asset be affected?"

So what does that mean for home owners who need to rely on their HDB flats as a source of retirement income? They should not assume that the price of their flat will go up, says OCBC Bank's vice-president and senior investment strategist Vasu Menon. "Hoping for an HDB flat to appreciate in price by the time you retire, so that you can unlock value by selling the flat, is not a sound strategy."

His advice to HDB dwellers is to have other sources of retirement income, such as investments in stocks, bonds and unit trusts. Then, if the value of their flat appreciates by the time they retire, it will be a "bonus".

Mr Vinod Nair, chief executive of MoneySmart.sg, warns against treating property as "a silver bullet" that will give home owners enough money for retirement. Even before the recent discussion on Sers, it was "fast becoming clear that buying Singapore property for investment was no longer going to be as lucrative as 10 years ago", he adds.

Monetisation schemes are available to HDB owners, and that was a point Minister Wong was at pains to put across in his latest post.

Three options are available.

The Lease Buyback Scheme, launched in 2009, allows owners of four-room flats or smaller to sell the remaining years of the lease back to the HDB. The proceeds go to the Central Provident Fund (CPF) Life national annuity scheme in the flat owner's name, which gives him a lifelong cash payout.

The elderly can also downgrade to smaller flats or HDB studio apartments and benefit from the Silver Housing Bonus scheme, under which the Government gives them a cash bonus of up to $20,000. The proceeds from the sale of their larger flat will go to topping up their CPF Retirement Account. There is also the option of subletting a room for rental income.

But these monetisation schemes depend on prevailing market conditions and come with eligibility criteria. To qualify for the Lease Buyback Scheme, a flat must have at least 20 years of lease left. Five-room and larger flats are excluded.

Home owners who plan to monetise their flats also need to take into account the age of their flats. Those who wish to downgrade and benefit from the Silver Housing Bonus need to be aware that would-be buyers are subject to CPF loan restrictions if a flat has less than 60 years remaining on its lease. The problem is compounded when one considers Singapore's rapidly ageing population. According to the Population White Paper of 2013, the number of those aged 65 and above will hit 900,000 by 2030, when for every one elderly person, there will be only two working adults. That means the older generation will be seeking to downsize their ageing flats, selling to a shrinking pool of younger buyers.

That is why R'ST director Ong Kah Seng believes that "beyond the next 10 years, this (current) set of flat-monetisation options for the elderly may be insufficient as we are entering an ageing society".

WHEN LEASES EXPIRE

Since no HDB flat has yet hit 99 years, no one really knows what will happen when a flat's lease expires. Of the total stock of about one million HDB flats, 70,000, or 7 per cent, are more than 40 years old. About 280,000 units are between 30 and 40 years old.

With about a third of all HDB flats today older than 30, that means that in about 60 years, some 350,000 flats will be seeing the end of their leases if nothing is done about them.

Mr Nair thinks that the Lease Buyback Scheme could be enhanced. Or the Government might come up with a new scheme to help owners of very old HDB flats who wish to live in their flats a while longer.

In Britain, the law states that leases are tenancies, and the leaseholder is essentially a tenant. Unless the tenant or the landlord decides to end the tenancy, it will continue on the same terms after the lease runs out.

This is essentially an automatic renewal of lease, and British law also allows eligible residential owners to extend the lease - by 90 years for a flat and by 50 for a landed house - at a cost pegged to market rates.

In China, Premier Li Keqiang said last month that lawmakers are drafting a real estate provision that would allow property under a 70-year lease to be renewed unconditionally, though details are still not clear. Hong Kong is an interesting case due to its varied history under different rules. Back in 1898, the Chinese government leased the islands surrounding Hong Kong, known as the New Territories, to Britain for 99 years under the Second Convention of Peking. The Special Administrative Region met its own leasehold cliff in 1997, the same year Hong Kong was returned to China. This was dealt with at the stroke of a pen to extend the leases for 50 years without payment of additional premium, but subject to an annual rent of 3 per cent of the property value.

Lease extension and renewal seem to be the textbook solution. But these options will be problematic in high-rise Singapore, where efficient use of land is also a priority. If only a handful of households in a block choose to extend their leases, it would leave them as the only residents in a mostly empty building.

It must also be noted that lease renewal and extensions are not permanent solutions. They merely delay the inevitable, that the lease will eventually come to an end again and create more uncertainties, now that the home is older than before, says Mr Ku Swee Yong, chief executive of International Property Advisor.

Could the solution be an alternative to Sers, such as an en bloc scheme to allow the Government to reacquire sites with less redevelopment potential before lease expiry, but at a lower cost? This "Sers-lite" scheme could work, says Mr Ku. The Government becomes the willing buyer and it can choose to redevelop the site at any time, with less urgency as with Sers. And since there is no need to tear the blocks down right away, the units can still be rented out to the previous home owners, who would be able to pay for it since they would have proceeds from the reacquisition.

The benefits to home owners will not be at the same level as those under Sers, but they would not leave elderly Singaporeans twisting in the wind when their flats reach the end of the road.

But with another 43 years to go before the oldest HDB flats - which are located in Stirling Road - turn 99, there is no need to rush a policy that will have a major impact on Singapore's successful public housing story.

Some may also question whether the Government of today has the mandate to decide the fate of something so far down the line.

By the time Mr Zhang's flat reaches the end of its lease in 2073, he will be 97 years old. His two daughters, now seven and four, will be 64 and 61 respectively. He says with a laugh that, by then, the world will be a very different place.

While the million-dollar flat may no longer be worth anything, the money would have paid for a comfortable and convenient nest for his young family, a place for his daughters to grow, he hopes, to independence.