View Full Version : The Parc (D5, Freehold, Chip Eng Seng & Lehman Brothers)
successnowhere
14-05-10, 14:54
Any The Parc owner here got any news on the TOP of this project? Me bot from sub-sales and do check out the site every week, don't think they can finish the job by this month :(
In Sunday times article yesterday,
The Parc Condo was the Top 2nd popular property for sub-sales in Q1 2010,
(One Amber being the 1st), though the sub-sale market level is still low at 13% of all sales compared to the peak period of 2007/8 where it's at 35%.
So not much speculations as compared to 2007, mostly on real demand from investors/own stays.
successnowhere
24-05-10, 16:50
Picture taken today:
http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/28450/2151238520105881756S500x500Q85.jpg
More pictures can be found in this forum :
http://www.myhometown.sg/Forum/tabid/84/aff/99/aft/158965/afv/topic/afpgj/21/Default.aspx#212039
successnowhere
03-06-10, 09:00
To all Parc owners in this forum, let's count down to TOP :)
Entrance and Club House 90% done
http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/47028/2205623790105881756S500x500Q85.jpg
All swimming pools filled up with water already
http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/47855/2477849170105881756S500x500Q85.jpg
Click Here for more pictures :
--> http://www.myhometown.sg/Forum/tabid/84/aff/99/aft/158965/afv/topic/afpgj/33/Default.aspx#213489
I like the design of this dev. looked "superior" among the HDB, but the multistorey carpark make it looked cheapo...
successnowhere
04-06-10, 15:30
The Parc actually build above the ground level by raising it by 1.5level of earth. 80% of the carpark lots are in ground level(upon driving in from the main entrance). The higher level of MSCP is actually almost same level as those resident staying in 1st floor. The top level of the MSCP is actually meant for facilities.
stalingrad
04-06-10, 15:48
I think the parc is okay if you can just look beyond the fact that it looks so much like an HDB estate.
Besides, the asking prices are quiet reasonable, less than those for the adjacent condos, and less than $1,000 psf. I couldn't find units for sale at botannia or carabelle for less than 1,000 psf.
But with more than 1000 units for sale on Propertyguru.com alone, I guess few people are buying.
But with more than 1000 units for sale on Propertyguru.com alone, I guess few people are buying.
There are people waiting for the prices to fall...
successnowhere
04-06-10, 16:50
Updated from streetsine.com
Transaction Date 21st May, 1516sqft @ $1030/psf
Already over 1k psf liao :)
Majority of the owner asking for over 1k/psf, those below 1k/psf are lower floor and not good facing.
yes I dun believe the owners of The Parc will be asking less than Botannia / Carabelle especially it is Freehold.
I just hope the so called Hong Leong Garden Shopping Center will be truly turned into a shopping centre with so many residents around :banghead:
successnowhere
04-06-10, 21:48
For what I think, they should re-develope the West Coast Recreation Centre.
I find the units listed on Propertyguru has tons of duplicates and often doesn't corresponds to any actual units at all.
If you click on each actual listing, most just put like generic info about the parc, some listings are even left blank...
One of the reasons I think, is the agents competing for "mindshare" because fresh listings will go on the first pages so they get attention from users browsing propertyguru without paying for their "featured" ads.
Anyway, from Business Time's news headlines on 4th June 2010,
" This year, up to April, One Amber in Katong had the most subsale transactions (51 deals), followed by The Parc Condominium in West Coast (41 deals) and Marina Bay Residences (MBR) with 39 subsales. One Amber and MBR received TOP in April; The Parc Condominium's TOP is expected in Q3."
The Parc's subsales stand at Top 2nd spot in terms of buyers and buying interests for the whole of Singapore for the Jan-Apr 2010 period; it makes sense that the agents are all competing for their online eyeballs (and commissions)...
Cheers.
I think the parc is okay if you can just look beyond the fact that it looks so much like an HDB estate.
Besides, the asking prices are quiet reasonable, less than those for the adjacent condos, and less than $1,000 psf. I couldn't find units for sale at botannia or carabelle for less than 1,000 psf.
But with more than 1000 units for sale on Propertyguru.com alone, I guess few people are buying.
successnowhere
15-06-10, 20:46
BCA is conducting the check on The Parc since Monday. Owners of this condo shall count down towards TOP :)
http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/9935/2696234210105881756S500x500Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/7916/2826558020105881756S500x500Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/18154/2728594960105881756S500x500Q85.jpg
Yeah! The main door is using Digital Card Lock system, more pictures can be found at :
http://www.myhometown.sg/Forum/tabid/84/afv/topic/aff/99/aft/158965/afpg/39/Default.aspx
I find the units listed on Propertyguru has tons of duplicates and often doesn't corresponds to any actual units at all.
If you click on each actual listing, most just put like generic info about the parc, some listings are even left blank...
One of the reasons I think, is the agents competing for "mindshare" because fresh listings will go on the first pages so they get attention from users browsing propertyguru without paying for their "featured" ads.
These online free-of-charge postings are rubbish and waste my time.
The agents are not even serious, unlike those who advertise in the Straits Times classifieds.
Recently I called one agent about an advertised property and he said "I don't know anything about this property, why don't you can check with the website itself?"
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS !!!??? :mad: :hell-hath-no-fury:
successnowhere
16-06-10, 10:29
Data from streetsine.com :
Contract Date : 31st May 2010
The Parc 1302sqft 3 bedder transacted at $1040/psf
PropertyGuru.com inside all rubbish, price not reliable at all, agents just used it for advertisement.
Hi,
Can anyone tell me whether the condo is considered to be within 1km of Nan Hua Primary?
proud owner
24-06-10, 15:01
Hi,
Can anyone tell me whether the condo is considered to be within 1km of Nan Hua Primary?
go to www.propertyguru.com.sg (http://www.propertyguru.com.sg)
search for Parc
and scroll to the bottom ..
on the left bottom you will see the schools nearby
bargain hunter
24-06-10, 16:06
even if within 1km + do volunteer work still need to ballot. :doh: i wouldn't take such a risk or waste my time.
go to www.propertyguru.com.sg (http://www.propertyguru.com.sg)
search for Parc
and scroll to the bottom ..
on the left bottom you will see the schools nearby
successnowhere
06-07-10, 10:05
Yeah! The wait is over...
*** THE PARC TOP ON YESTERDAY !!! ***
Dear owners, kindly visit this link and join us in the core group for discussion after keys collection.
http://www.myhometown.sg/Forum/tabid/84/aff/99/aft/158965/afv/topic/afpgj/53/Default.aspx#217606
successnowhere
14-07-10, 15:27
TOP notification letter had been sending out by the developer's lawyer since last week, Blk 3 and Blk 5 will be collecting their letter first, then follow by the rest of the blocks.
Any owners from this forum receive letter and being notify of the keys collection date? Kindly with us pictures of The Parc if you hv got in to your unit.
All the best.
NB: Join us in this forum
http://www.myhometown.sg/Forum/tabid/84/aff/99/aft/158965/afv/topic/afpgj/63/Default.aspx#218548
successnowhere
19-07-10, 09:36
WoW! Lots of wonderful interior pictures and landscapping of The Parc can be found from this forum :
http://www.myhometown.sg/Forum/tabid/84/aff/99/aft/158965/afv/topic/afpgj/71/Default.aspx#219114
Some Photos Showing The Parc's Resort Main Pool...
http://www.myhometown.sg/Portals/0/Member/theparcpool1.jpg
http://www.myhometown.sg/Portals/0/Member/theparcpool2.jpg
successnowhere
26-07-10, 07:33
WoW! Nice pictures! Thanks for sharing :)
Somebody already start enjoying the sun-deck chair
Yeah! I will be collecting my keys today
Ya boy! Looks nice..
Post some of the night views.. I'm sure it will turn out even better :)
More lovely photos...
Main Resort 50M Pool:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_U1cyWhAiG8o/TE7pBkJ6e-I/AAAAAAAAAA8/BRaCnEw1qk4/s912/P7275206.JPG
Jacuzzi and nature:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_U1cyWhAiG8o/TE7pLcwy9yI/AAAAAAAAABk/aNJ3OQcAdBM/s912/P7275272.JPG
Aqua Gym:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_U1cyWhAiG8o/TE7pDNEghuI/AAAAAAAAABA/-0GNqASwlKQ/s912/P7275207.JPG
:D Hey... great photos and facilities too ! wow...
aqua gym? you do the same machines in the water?
successnowhere
27-07-10, 23:55
Yes! Cool right? Gym equipments inside swimming pool, but guess need to use more strength to do it cos those equipment needs to operate manually and no electricity connect to it
how do you run the threadmill in the water, i can imagine the rest.
devilplate
28-07-10, 11:03
nice pics:D
but no lap pool ar...those resort/landscaped pool hard to do proper laps but looks alot nicer:D
bargain hunter
28-07-10, 11:07
can. its good exercise running with water resistance. :)
how do you run the threadmill in the water, i can imagine the rest.
devilplate
28-07-10, 11:11
can. its good exercise running with water resistance. :)
ya...much better for older folks with leg related problems....gd for knee caps
successnowhere
28-07-10, 11:39
Wonderful View
From my master bedroom
http://inlinethumb20.webshots.com/37971/2095029520105881756S500x500Q85.jpg
Balcony View
http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/17976/2538061050105881756S500x500Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/22878/2124093290105881756S500x500Q85.jpg
View from guest's room
http://inlinethumb14.webshots.com/14029/2172050770105881756S500x500Q85.jpg
stalingrad
28-07-10, 12:36
haha, don't say that and rain on their parade.
haha, don't say that and rain on their parade.
no lah... its the port and the refinery view... for top floors only... hdb view for mid and lower floors...
so many sellers... u know I know lah
bargain hunter
28-07-10, 13:23
don't like that leh, still got sea...oops i mean crane view.
the "HDB view" ? :)
devilplate
28-07-10, 13:23
hdb upgradders r so used to seeing HDBS anyway....hehe...one step at a time lor....when they get richer...they will den tink about landed/ better views/ posh address etc
devilplate
28-07-10, 13:24
by the way, u guys very very mean....not nice also try not to post lor...beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder mah:D
hdb upgradders r so used to seeing HDBS anyway....hehe...one step at a time lor....when they get richer...they will den tink about landed/ better views/ posh address etc
but the asking price now is not one step at a time leh ~~ :)
see the pool deck chairs.. aiyo ...
bargain hunter
28-07-10, 13:37
i grew up in a hdb block beside the parc and my aunt owned a unit at westpeak. sorry, a bit tu lan my childhood playground and my parents' place's open view become one row of blocks and blocks of units. :mad: :ashamed1: :D
by the way, u guys very very mean....not nice also try not to post lor...beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder mah:D
stalingrad
28-07-10, 13:48
not a condo to write home about, unless home is a thatch roofed hut in the jungle.
Difficult to have best of all worlds in Singapore for convenience, but...
What I can say is the ambiance of the internal grounds and pools are lovely...
and the externals are some mixed bags private condos, landed houses and HDB...
With mostly unblocked views...
Low/Mid floor view:
http://www.myhometown.sg/Portals/0/Member/theparcpools.jpg
Mid/High floor view:
http://www.myhometown.sg/Portals/0/Member/theparcrview.jpg
stalingrad
28-07-10, 13:50
by the way, u guys very very mean....not nice also try not to post lor...beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder mah:D
You are meaner than we are. You have been rolling on the floor laughing all day.
bargain hunter
28-07-10, 14:03
i agree for the ambience, but not so sure when all 600+ units are filled up.
you take low/mid floor for east view and high floor for west view of course unblocked. low/mid floor west view is either stare at wall of hdb or hdb carpark.
Difficult to have best of all worlds in Singapore for convenience, but...
What I can say is the ambiance of the internal grounds and pools are lovely...
and the externals are some mixed bags private condos, landed houses and HDB...
With mostly unblocked views...
Low/Mid floor view:
http://www.myhometown.sg/Portals/0/Member/theparcpools.jpg
Mid/High floor view:
http://www.myhometown.sg/Portals/0/Member/theparcrview.jpg
i agree for the ambience, but not so sure when all 600+ units are filled up.
you take low/mid floor for east view and high floor for west view of course unblocked. low/mid floor west view is either stare at wall of hdb or hdb carpark.
The only good point I find in this project is the word FREEHOLD nothing else interest me. I believe this is the reason most people bought this project.
Just visit the place and the lift lobby and common corridor is even worse than current HDB like Pinnacle n Dawson estate. Most units have bedrooms looking at other unit 's room n bathroom. The masterbathroom has 4 diffrent marble colours. The wardrobes are darkbrown while the doors are orange (internal choice of colors don't blend at all). Though there are plenty of facilities there is practically no landscape except for a few palm trees. Think this is the 1st time this developer built a condo.:doh:
The location is nothing to crow about, surrounded by HDB , not near MRT, good schools, shopping centre and in a narrow road into a football stadium.
The Parc is the 2nd best HDB estate after the Pinnacle:D
proud owner
28-07-10, 23:26
The only good point I find in this project is the word FREEHOLD nothing else interest me. I believe this is the reason most people bought this project.
the view is still better than Scala ..
the tenor is even better FH vs LH
Mrt is a bridge away
Huh?? What can i say...
Yes, it's difficult to get the best of all worlds project in Singapore,
But you are obviously shortchanged and getting all the wrong info...!
Landscape is not whether palms trees or not...but lovely ambience.
And you don't even know there are beds of 2-storey high bamboo gardens inside, ferns and flowers, and green hilly slopes all around the estate, etc...
MRT is just 7-8 mins walk across the sheltered overhead bridges from middle blks; to the shops/banks/etc of Clementi Town is even nearer.
All units has 3-sided multiple views, closed off the sides near neighbors, you still have full front and back views;
Workmanship is top notch, full marbles floorings and skirtings in living, dining, bathrooms, and timbers in all bed rooms.
and the views are mixed bags of landed houses, private condos and hdb,
- definitely not "surrounded" by hdb...
Good schools nearby aplenty - NUS High, Nan Hua, QiFa, etc.
My posted photos of The Parc above speaks a thousands words...
Just visit the place and the lift lobby and common corridor is even worse than current HDB like Pinnacle n Dawson estate. Most units have bedrooms looking at other unit 's room n bathroom. The masterbathroom has 4 diffrent marble colours. The wardrobes are darkbrown while the doors are orange (internal choice of colors don't blend at all). Though there are plenty of facilities there is practically no landscape except for a few palm trees. Think this is the 1st time this developer built a condo.:doh:
The location is nothing to crow about, surrounded by HDB , not near MRT, good schools, shopping centre and in a narrow road into a football stadium.
The Parc is the 2nd best HDB estate after the Pinnacle:D
devilplate
29-07-10, 00:45
i tink we shd try to be nicer...obviously there r ppl who bot into Parc in this forum...they merely posting pics and feel excited and happy with their new HOME....
sometimes we just choose to see the negatives and ignore the positives...haiz
every ppty is unique....including our life partner/gf/bf or even cars.....
i tink we shd try to be nicer...obviously there r ppl who bot into Parc in this forum...they merely posting pics and feel excited and happy with their new HOME....
sometimes we just choose to see the negatives and ignore the positives...haiz
every ppty is unique....including our life partner/gf/bf or even cars.....
right on.... just wait till they "wake up" then put up the property for sale lor....
anyway, like what they say "it's none of your business". Fools are wiser when they know that they were foolish...
FH = Future Horizon.
stalingrad
29-07-10, 09:55
jugged by this project again today. one word, ugly.
To each his own....
Reported earlier by The Business Times,
The Parc being one of the Top 3 popular condos this year, along with One Amber and MBR,
which more than speak for itself...
More nice photos:
Bright and breezy interiors:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_U1cyWhAiG8o/TE7pD4dWwqI/AAAAAAAAABE/iNKHNz1tqtE/s912/P7275209.JPG
All Units' main door come equipt with the sleek Samsung Slim Touch Digital Lock:
http://www.samsungdigitallife.com/Images/Products/with%20handle/SHS5120_front_small.gif
jugged by this project again today. one word, ugly.
another project comes to mind.. metropolitan
devilplate
29-07-10, 11:10
another project comes to mind.. metropolitan
but this is FH!! hehe:D
but this is FH!! hehe:D
i refering to the looks department :o
who cares? Free to hold what? cannot see cannot touch... I rather keep the cash... hold them touch them and squeeze them.
If I like nice and cosy place, I stay at hotels all over the world... better in terms of money and experience
The Parc? Sounds Like The Fart
who cares? Free to hold what? cannot see cannot touch... I rather keep the cash... hold them touch them and squeeze them.
If I like nice and cosy place, I stay at hotels all over the world... better in terms of money and experience
The Parc? Sounds Like The Fart
Freehold at 900+psf where to find??
who cares? Free to hold what? cannot see cannot touch... I rather keep the cash... hold them touch them and squeeze them.
If I like nice and cosy place, I stay at hotels all over the world... better in terms of money and experience
The Parc? Sounds Like The Fart
hahaha !
devilplate
29-07-10, 11:55
Freehold at 900+psf where to find??
ppl will say still can find big big FH landed at 600psf+ or even lower...those at sembawang or jalan kayu:D
siao ar...pay 1kpsf for the Parc to stay near to HDB???? might as well buy nearby HDB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not i say hor..i jus copycat:D
Business Times article that places The Parc, along with One Amber and Marina Bay Residences,
as the Top 3 popular condos of this year, demonstrated a true great interest and value in The Parc for many other people,
than some bunch here in this forum....
E'nough said. To each his own...
devilplate
29-07-10, 12:33
if u realise...always tat few tat criticise mah...i tink its a forum...healthy to have some opposite views...but guess its the way they comment...too blunt and dun care about other ppl's feelings at all...tok is cheap mah
be nicer and more tactful when we make comments lor...i am trying to be nicer too..realised certain comments of mine attracted harshy arguments:o
hey.. its having fun...
even tanumy is left alone... what else do you expect?
Go DBR Go DBR GO DBR..
I think no more fart liao. Its the Farck
if u realise...always tat few tat criticise mah...i tink its a forum...healthy to have some opposite views...but guess its the way they comment...too blunt and dun care about other ppl's feelings at all...tok is cheap mah
be nicer and more tactful when we make comments lor...i am trying to be nicer too..realised certain comments of mine attracted harshy arguments:o
well i dont think ppl should hold back on giving their honest opinions too ~
otherwise everything is seen through rose-tinted lens or mollycoddled which isnt a good thing too :o
devilplate
29-07-10, 13:40
well i dont think ppl should hold back on giving their honest opinions too ~
otherwise everything is seen through rose-tinted lens or mollycoddled which isnt a good thing too :o
i tink u dun really get wat i mean...
there is many ways to give honest opinion and advice
rather den just say might as well buy hDB nearby? siao ar pay so much for 99LH...MRT wat so great? FH FH FH BESTTT...u got it? it is not considered as a piece of advice anymore when ppl making such a comment....more like too bored and trying to be funny to create smthing to tok and argue...or make somebody unhappy
i tink u dun really get wat i mean...
there is many ways to give honest opinion and advice
rather den just say might as well buy hDB nearby? siao ar pay so much for 99LH...MRT wat so great? FH FH FH BESTTT...u got it? it is not considered as a piece of advice anymore when ppl making such a comment....more like too bored and trying to be funny to create smthing to tok and argue...or make somebody unhappy
ok lah.. i think its me.. must be my mood swings....
don't bother lah... no one seems to bother also... just let it be...
I am quite interested to see a fight of words in here.. too tame and too dull! someone please throw a punch?
stalingrad
29-07-10, 14:21
ok lah.. i think its me.. must be my mood swings....
don't bother lah... no one seems to bother also... just let it be...
I am quite interested to see a fight of words in here.. too tame and too dull! someone please throw a punch? Okay, you asked for it.
The parc is the ugliest condo on earth bar none. It has this squashed look caused by the low ceiling at each floor. Each unit looks like a monkey cage more than a human dwelling. it looks more like a HDB estate than the surrounding HDB estates. the furnishings are made of cheap plywood materials that look like recycles.
devilplate
29-07-10, 14:26
best example!:D :D :D
after a while...we get so used to it:D :D :D
I find the orientation of the blocks very strange as they are mostly east west facing. Any comments about the thermal issue during morning or late afternoon from current owners?
Wild Falcon
01-08-10, 13:48
I also prefer the no-holds-barred approach. As long as it is related to the project, why not? What's the point of saying every project is wonderful or trying to tone down our views? Only people with character have strong views - imagine everyone come in and say this project is "ok" and that project is "ok" or "it depends". These are the WORST "cover your a*s" comments. In real life, we are plastic enough, but in a forum there is no need to be so plastic. But PERSONAL ATTACKS or racial rants which are prevalent in some threads would be a no-no.
well i dont think ppl should hold back on giving their honest opinions too ~
otherwise everything is seen through rose-tinted lens or mollycoddled which isnt a good thing too :o
devilplate
01-08-10, 14:36
I also prefer the no-holds-barred approach. As long as it is related to the project, why not? What's the point of saying every project is wonderful or trying to tone down our views? Only people with character have strong views - imagine everyone come in and say this project is "ok" and that project is "ok" or "it depends". These are the WORST "cover your a*s" comments. In real life, we are plastic enough, but in a forum there is no need to be so plastic. But PERSONAL ATTACKS or racial rants which are prevalent in some threads would be a no-no.
wat r the properties u have currently?
the aqua pool concept quite cool yeah can be Parc USP? But its a challenge to exercise in water? :rolleyes:
I am quite disappointed with the interior thou...make me think it seems more like HDB :scared-2: btw, the samsung digital lock I also have wor... :P
Quality of interior furnishings are quite good...
Master bathroom:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_oiUJLr3CHA0/TFeT6BZK-YI/AAAAAAAAABY/Q1lxRJGvc9M/s720/DSC00024.JPG
Only some windows are frosted glass, Haha...the others fully clear... so must install blinds...
devilplate
04-08-10, 00:24
i am easily contented...got marbles happy oredi:)
but hor...may nid to build a cabinet below the sink to cover the ugly thingy:D
Yup need some reno works lah... but also quite decent as it is already. Yup intend to build more cabinets for storage space...
Well, in this world, such clowns exist, and they simply make this world more exciting to live in, these clowns im referring to are those ppl who badmouth at this project.
When Im staying in The Centris at Jurong West, lots of such clowns appear too and condemn for the west pollution issue, noisy shopping centre, crowded area and traffic..blah blah blah the list goes on and on, now The Centris price peaks at 900+ PSF, so if this place is crap, why the transacted price is still so high? Fools buying?
Now i had hop over in The Parc, still saw these bunch of clowns exists, a clown staying in Crappybelle says Parc is ugly, well Crappybelle looks more like a old crappy HDB estate in my opinion.
Nothing beats convenience, The Parc is situated near the MRT and the upcoming mega mall in Clementi, with its FH status, no project in the vicinity actually catch my eyes. So it does not surprise me that this project is well sought after and are the Top popular condo in Singapore, as Singaporeans still prefers convenience and Freehold project, the price explains itself again, it has been rising steadily since TOP.
So to the clowns here, pls continue to excite my day :cheers6:
Well, in this world, such clowns exist, and they simply make this world more exciting to live in, these clowns im referring to are those ppl who badmouth at this project.
When Im staying in The Centris at Jurong West, lots of such clowns appear too and condemn for the west pollution issue, noisy shopping centre, crowded area and traffic..blah blah blah the list goes on and on, now The Centris price peaks at 900+ PSF, so if this place is crap, why the transacted price is still so high? Fools buying?
Now i had hop over in The Parc, still saw these bunch of clowns exists, a clown staying in Crappybelle says Parc is ugly, well Crappybelle looks more like a old crappy HDB estate in my opinion.
Nothing beats convenience, The Parc is situated near the MRT and the upcoming mega mall in Clementi, with its FH status, no project in the vicinity actually catch my eyes. So it does not surprise me that this project is well sought after and are the Top popular condo in Singapore, as Singaporeans still prefers convenience and Freehold project, the price explains itself again, it has been rising steadily since TOP.
So to the clowns here, pls continue to excite my day :cheers6:
kongming is smart...don't bother about what others say lah... if it is true, its true.. even if price is $1000 psf and keep on increasing.. don't take price as a single measure for project success and disregard the rest... centris $900 psf.. the rest also increased right? Unless u r saying centris $900, rest did not increase at all, then I would say u r right....
centris is a $4xx psf project... buyers are paying for $4xx psf quality... that's why they are fools.....
oh, more parabooneks there...
stalingrad
07-08-10, 10:21
Well, in this world, such clowns exist, and they simply make this world more exciting to live in, these clowns im referring to are those ppl who badmouth at this project.
When Im staying in The Centris at Jurong West, lots of such clowns appear too and condemn for the west pollution issue, noisy shopping centre, crowded area and traffic..blah blah blah the list goes on and on, now The Centris price peaks at 900+ PSF, so if this place is crap, why the transacted price is still so high? Fools buying?
Now i had hop over in The Parc, still saw these bunch of clowns exists, a clown staying in Crappybelle says Parc is ugly, well Crappybelle looks more like a old crappy HDB estate in my opinion.
Nothing beats convenience, The Parc is situated near the MRT and the upcoming mega mall in Clementi, with its FH status, no project in the vicinity actually catch my eyes. So it does not surprise me that this project is well sought after and are the Top popular condo in Singapore, as Singaporeans still prefers convenience and Freehold project, the price explains itself again, it has been rising steadily since TOP.
So to the clowns here, pls continue to excite my day :cheers6:
rising tides lift all boats, ugly or pretty. the low interest environment makes all condo more pricey than before, including the parc condo and centris. but the fact remains that the parc condo is the king of ugly condos. so ugly that I would not live in it it you offer me a unit for free.
It is silly to argue just because the price is going up, it must not be ugly. just look at hdb homes. prices are skyrocketing, but are these dwellings pretty to look at?
btw, kudos to you for having lived in two of the most ugly condos in singapore. you sure have a sense of beauty.
Personally I believe Parc is the most convenient of all the condos along the West Coast area along AYE, the only one which can barely walk to Clementi MRT station (though still far but the rest are not even considered walkable!). Besides it is the stadium and some eateries (vs the rest with zero amenities within walking distance). Quality wise I don't know but just the location itself wins hands-down compared to the others in West Coast along AYE (and location itself is the mostx3 important!)
Well, in this world, such clowns exist, and they simply make this world more exciting to live in, these clowns im referring to are those ppl who badmouth at this project.
When Im staying in The Centris at Jurong West, lots of such clowns appear too and condemn for the west pollution issue, noisy shopping centre, crowded area and traffic..blah blah blah the list goes on and on, now The Centris price peaks at 900+ PSF, so if this place is crap, why the transacted price is still so high? Fools buying?
Now i had hop over in The Parc, still saw these bunch of clowns exists, a clown staying in Crappybelle says Parc is ugly, well Crappybelle looks more like a old crappy HDB estate in my opinion.
Nothing beats convenience, The Parc is situated near the MRT and the upcoming mega mall in Clementi, with its FH status, no project in the vicinity actually catch my eyes. So it does not surprise me that this project is well sought after and are the Top popular condo in Singapore, as Singaporeans still prefers convenience and Freehold project, the price explains itself again, it has been rising steadily since TOP.
So to the clowns here, pls continue to excite my day :cheers6:
devilplate
07-08-10, 13:19
rising tides lift all boats, ugly or pretty. the low interest environment makes all condo more pricey than before, including the parc condo and centris. but the fact remains that the parc condo is the king of ugly condos. so ugly that I would not live in it it you offer me a unit for free.
It is silly to argue just because the price is going up, it must not be ugly. just look at hdb homes. prices are skyrocketing, but are these dwellings pretty to look at?
btw, kudos to you for having lived in two of the most ugly condos in singapore. you sure have a sense of beauty.
every1 taste different....to me both looks ok leh...arte looks abit ugly though with the iron balcony railings....
i very simple: which ever ppty makes $ for me...it is damn beauitiful....lose $ DAMN UGLY! :D
got $ just buy landed and build ur dream homes la...buy big big land...build 50m lap pool, own tennis court, gym etc and employ tons of bikinis maids haha:D ...y buy condo:tongue3:
Wah, you like that insult the many billionaires/multi-millionaires now living in penthouses of many luxury condos in Singapore (like Modhi in The Sail and those on top of Orchard Residences and The MarQ@Paterson bought at $5k psf)?
every1 taste different....to me both looks ok leh...arte looks abit ugly though with the iron balcony railings....
i very simple: which ever ppty makes $ for me...it is damn beauitiful....lose $ DAMN UGLY! :D
got $ just buy landed and build ur dream homes la...buy big big land...build 50m lap pool, own tennis court, gym etc and employ tons of bikinis maids haha:D ...y buy condo:tongue3:
devilplate
07-08-10, 13:31
Wah, you like that insult the many billionaires/multi-millionaires now living in penthouses of many luxury condos in Singapore (like Modhi in The Sail and those on top of Orchard Residences and The MarQ@Paterson bought at $5k psf)?
build own dream house according to their taste...so tat dun have to argue my condo is nicer den others....which is so so silly:D
stalingrad
07-08-10, 15:11
build own dream house according to their taste...so tat dun have to argue my condo is nicer den others....which is so so silly:D
not arguing for the sake of winning an argument. it is true that the parc is very ugly. not just me. if you get a panel of ten persons plucked off the street, probably 9 would say "what is wrong with this condo, why is it so ugly looking?"
then, what is a nice looking condo in this area? both clementiwoods and botannia are pretty well designed and built. I don't own a unit in either condo. Moreover, convenient is a relative word. while the parc is closer to clementi MRT, it is farther from that mrt station than condos in other areas to their nearest MRT stations. Metropolitan is ugly, but it has an MRT track overhead. That is how convenient it is. So, what is the selling point of the parc condo? none probably. that is why, the current price is about the same as that at the launch.
devilplate
07-08-10, 17:10
not arguing for the sake of winning an argument. it is true that the parc is very ugly. not just me. if you get a panel of ten persons plucked off the street, probably 9 would say "what is wrong with this condo, why is it so ugly looking?"
then, what is a nice looking condo in this area? both clementiwoods and botannia are pretty well designed and built. I don't own a unit in either condo. Moreover, convenient is a relative word. while the parc is closer to clementi MRT, it is farther from that mrt station than condos in other areas to their nearest MRT stations. Metropolitan is ugly, but it has an MRT track overhead. That is how convenient it is. So, what is the selling point of the parc condo? none probably. that is why, the current price is about the same as that at the launch.
y clemwood and botannia nice looking and y metro is ugly? i find them pretty norm...:beats-me-man:
build own dream house according to their taste...so tat dun have to argue my condo is nicer den others....which is so so silly:D
I thought there was a discussion some time back in the forum :) ...
The conclusion of which house is nicer is ultimately dependent on the buyer who stay in it or invest in it.. and is a factor of price and location and nothing to do with the design and facilities... keke..
eg, if you stay in HDB, you look out..view not nice.. everything not nice..
if you stay in $1mil condo, you look out..view nicer than hdb.. everything nicer than hdb.. but you will feel it's not as nice as your friend's $3mil condo somewhere else.
if you stay in a $3mil condo, you look out ..view nicer than $1mil condo.. everything nicer than $1mil condo .. but you will feel it's not as nice as your other friend's $6mil condo... keke
not arguing for the sake of winning an argument. it is true that the parc is very ugly. not just me. if you get a panel of ten persons plucked off the street, probably 9 would say "what is wrong with this condo, why is it so ugly looking?"
then, what is a nice looking condo in this area? both clementiwoods and botannia are pretty well designed and built. I don't own a unit in either condo. Moreover, convenient is a relative word. while the parc is closer to clementi MRT, it is farther from that mrt station than condos in other areas to their nearest MRT stations. Metropolitan is ugly, but it has an MRT track overhead. That is how convenient it is. So, what is the selling point of the parc condo? none probably. that is why, the current price is about the same as that at the launch.
This is a good question - why is Parc still so cheap and selling price now comes close to launch price? If buyers are buying to flip, surely they can't break even at this rate? I was wondering why this is a very popular subsale condo - if it's like One Amber it makes sense cos the flippers earn tons of profit (700psf selling at 1300psf) but it's funny to buy at 750psf and sell at 800psf+ in case of The Parc. Apart from the comments on its aesthetic sense, any other reasons? Too many units perhaps?
I thought there was a discussion some time back in the forum :) ...
The conclusion of which house is nicer is ultimately dependent on the buyer who stay in it or invest in it.. and is a factor of price and location and nothing to do with the design and facilities... keke..
eg, if you stay in HDB, you look out..view not nice.. everything not nice..
if you stay in $1mil condo, you look out..view nicer than hdb.. everything nicer than hdb.. but you will feel it's not as nice as your friend's $3mil condo somewhere else.
if you stay in a $3mil condo, you look out ..view nicer than $1mil condo.. everything nicer than $1mil condo .. but you will feel it's not as nice as your other friend's $6mil condo... keke
That's right. The value of a house depends on the view outside which in turns depends on the price inside.
This is called the "Inside-Outside-Inside" law in PROPERTISM.
For example, some people keep saying that Singapore's seaview is not nice compared to other countries'.
Along the coast of Africa and South America, for a few thousand kilometres, you can easily get views like these but they are cheapskate and hence not nice. See how grey and murky their water is ... YUKS!!! :tongue3:
http://www.furniturestoreblog.com/image/2009/09/Beach%20with%20Blue%20Water.jpg
In contrast, see how crystal clear blue our Sentosa Cove water is in front of these $20 million houses. :p
http://www.h88.com.sg/images/content/2009-04-25/sentosa_cove_2.jpg
successnowhere
07-08-10, 22:38
You are absolutely WRONG! How can you prove that recent transactions of The Parc are only 800+? Those 800+/psf are those buyers who bot it during launch 2007 and now secure a loan, currently this condo is transacted over 1k/psf. Pls open your eye big big and check
15 West Coast Walk #17-26
Freehold
$977
1464
$1430k
21 Jul 10
11 West Coast Walk #09-22
Freehold
$1022
1292
$1320k
21 Jul 10
1 West Coast Walk #08-01
Freehold
$946
1421
$1344k
19 Jul 10
3 West Coast Walk #03-06
Freehold
$960
1216
$1167k
12 Jul 10
15 West Coast Walk #17-27
Freehold
$1080
1518
$1639k
08 Jul 10
9 West Coast Walk #01-17
Freehold
$860
1195
$1028k
02 Jul 10
15 West Coast Walk #21-27
Freehold
$1070
1518
$1624k
30 Jun 10
15 West Coast Walk #11-27
Freehold
$1020
1518
$1548k
24 Jun 10
7 West Coast Walk #20-15
Freehold
$1077
1485
$1600k
24 Jun 10
You are absolutely WRONG! How can you prove that recent transactions of The Parc are only 800+? Those 800+/psf are those buyers who bot it during launch 2007 and now secure a loan, currently this condo is transacted over 1k/psf. Pls open your eye big big and check
15 West Coast Walk #17-26
Freehold
$977
1464
$1430k
21 Jul 10
11 West Coast Walk #09-22
Freehold
$1022
1292
$1320k
21 Jul 10
1 West Coast Walk #08-01
Freehold
$946
1421
$1344k
19 Jul 10
3 West Coast Walk #03-06
Freehold
$960
1216
$1167k
12 Jul 10
15 West Coast Walk #17-27
Freehold
$1080
1518
$1639k
08 Jul 10
9 West Coast Walk #01-17
Freehold
$860
1195
$1028k
02 Jul 10
15 West Coast Walk #21-27
Freehold
$1070
1518
$1624k
30 Jun 10
15 West Coast Walk #11-27
Freehold
$1020
1518
$1548k
24 Jun 10
7 West Coast Walk #20-15
Freehold
$1077
1485
$1600k
24 Jun 10
If i remember correctly the parc was launched at $950psf so even at $1000psf or $1080psf the owner only barley makes 100+psf and that is 2-3 years later which is very pathetic and mind you if you minus stamp duty and bank loan penalty that is almost nothing.:D
stalingrad
08-08-10, 12:50
If i remember correctly the parc was launched at $950psf so even at $1000psf or $1080psf the owner only barley makes 100+psf and that is 2-3 years later which is very pathetic and mind you if you minus stamp duty and bank loan penalty that is almost nothing.:D
that plus the fact that condos nearby have all doubled in value. so, who said that looks don't matter? chuck Yeager famously said that a airplane that doesn't look good will not fly right. does that apply to condos? sure it does. as I said, the squashed looks of the parc, which reminds me of a squashed cake, mean low ceilings, which mean uncomfortable and claustrophobic living for residents.
chuck Yeager famously said that a airplane that doesn't look good will not fly right.yea a plane's no good if it can only turn left :D
If i remember correctly the parc was launched at $950psf so even at $1000psf or $1080psf the owner only barley makes 100+psf and that is 2-3 years later which is very pathetic and mind you if you minus stamp duty and bank loan penalty that is almost nothing.:D
so I got my figures wrong paiseh
but if you buy at 950psf, break even is around 1020 psf - had the same money been invested in somewhere else the gain would be a lot more.
i may be wrong.. but iirc probably launched at avg 800psf
successnowhere
08-08-10, 22:55
Aiyo! Guess I shall stop visiting this forum and go back to myhometown forum, here lots of brainless and nonsence people who only know how to talking rubblish here
Aiyo! Guess I shall stop visiting this forum and go back to myhometown forum, here lots of brainless and nonsence people who only know how to talking rubblish here
Haha, in this forum, there are some with hidden agenda when they post. I had proven that this particular person is totally biased in his opinion.
Look how he said abt Nanhua pri school when he couldn't get his sons into it. Before that, he was worried whether his son could get in but when he lost his chance during balloting, he started bad-mouthing about the school. It is the same logic when he talks about condos here...as long as he doesn't hold a stake in it, he will start bad-mouthing about them when given a chance. You can be sure, all his remarks about other condos are sarcastic except when it comes to his 'centre of universe'.
So just have a good laugh when he starts posting...afterall, you need a stage for a clown to perform...:D
Happy National Day to all Singaporeans!! ;)
stalingrad
09-08-10, 10:43
i may be wrong.. but iirc probably launched at avg 800psf
No, you are wrong. we were at the showflat. while we did get in, the word at that time was the average is 900 to 1000 psf.
No, you are wrong. we were at the showflat. while we did get in, the word at that time was the average is 900 to 1000 psf.
He is not wrong... Those having "Privilege" got to buy the unit there at around 800psf. :)
devilplate
09-08-10, 12:37
anyway, average launch prices around 850psf
devilplate
09-08-10, 12:49
The Parc:
11 West Coast Walk #09-22
Freehold
$1022
1292
$1320k
21 Jul 10
1 West Coast Walk #08-01
Freehold
$946
1421
$1344k
19 Jul 10
3 West Coast Walk #03-06
Freehold
$960
1216
$1167k
12 Jul 10
15 West Coast Walk #17-27
Freehold
$1080
1518
$1639k
08 Jul 10
Carabelle:
61 West Coast Way #12-20
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$891
2077
$1850k
08 Jul 10
51 West Coast Way #12-02
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$938
1744
$1635k
05 Jul 10
59 West Coast Way #11-15
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$1000
947
$947k
28 Jun 10
51 West Coast Way #12-03
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$863
2110
$1820k
31 Mar 10
51 West Coast Way #08-02
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$1045
883
$922k
25 Mar 10
59 West Coast Way #09-16
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$889
1259
$1120k
24 Mar 10
Botannia:
29B West Coast Park #03-21
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$1029
904
$930k
21 Jul 10
33A West Coast Park #10-40
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$947
1625
$1540k
20 Jul 10
29B West Coast Park #05-21
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$1048
840
$880k
18 Jun 10
31 West Coast Park #05-24
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$935
1604
$1500k
17 Jun 10
31 West Coast Park #10-25
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$898
1281
$1150k
09 Jun 10
100 Trees:
93 West Coast Drive #03-29
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$1208
484
$585k
29 Jun 10
81 West Coast Drive #04-04
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$915
1313
$1201k
15 Jun 10
93 West Coast Drive #08-28
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$1252
484
$606k
23 Apr 10
81 West Coast Drive #06-04
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$926
1313
$1216k
20 Apr 10
81 West Coast Drive #07-04
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$930
1313
$1221k
13 Apr 10
81 West Coast Drive #02-04
956 Yrs From 27/05/1928
$902
1313
$1184k
09 Apr 10
based on latest caveats: The Parc is on par with the rest....even it looks ugly to some....the free market doesnt tink so apparently.
it is vy funny to use % gain to determine the beauty of a project....The Parc was launched at the previous peak....so buyers bot in the wrong timing and dun make much profit not bcoz the facade is ugly.
If the facade is so ugly and the masses feels the same, their current prices shd be lower compared to the rest
I bought a mid floor premium stack at below 800psf during their 1st preview in2007. I sold it for more than 1000psf recently for a decent net profit of more than 300K.
I think this is a nice project. I don't understand why so many forumers here condemn this project. :doh:
devilplate
09-08-10, 13:27
I bought a mid floor premium stack at below 800psf during their 1st preview in2007. I sold it for more than 1000psf recently for a decent net profit of more than 300K.
I think this is a nice project. I don't understand why so many forumers here condemn this project. :doh:
congrats! ur unit must be quite big...200psf gain ==300k...not bad :D
I bought a mid floor premium stack at below 800psf during their 1st preview in2007. I sold it for more than 1000psf recently for a decent net profit of more than 300K.
I think this is a nice project. I don't understand why so many forumers here condemn this project. :doh:
That's pretty decent profit compared to Zoe Tay...:D
That's pretty decent profit compared to Zoe Tay...:D
The Tay sold her unit?
rising tides lift all boats, ugly or pretty. the low interest environment makes all condo more pricey than before, including the parc condo and centris. but the fact remains that the parc condo is the king of ugly condos. so ugly that I would not live in it it you offer me a unit for free.
It is silly to argue just because the price is going up, it must not be ugly. just look at hdb homes. prices are skyrocketing, but are these dwellings pretty to look at?
btw, kudos to you for having lived in two of the most ugly condos in singapore. you sure have a sense of beauty.
Grow up son, even though how ugly the Parc is, it is still beautiful than your crappybelle where it is really situated in the middle of nowhere, I would buy Botannia anytime as no doubt it is the most nicest project in this vicinity, however I still choose Parc due to its convenience location.
Anyway I would not blame ur retarded brain for choosing crappybelle, since that project suits a clown with a pea brain.:doh:
devilplate
10-08-10, 11:22
lets see the price performance of carabelle and Parc going forward:D
Grow up son, even though how ugly the Parc is, it is still beautiful than your crappybelle where it is really situated in the middle of nowhere, I would buy Botannia anytime as no doubt it is the most nicest project in this vicinity, however I still choose Parc due to its convenience location.
Anyway I would not blame ur retarded brain for choosing crappybelle, since that project suits a clown with a pea brain.:doh:
Somethings just never change LOL!
The Tay sold her unit?
I think she bought 2 or 3 units at The Parc, sold 1 few months back,
and keep the remaining units for own family stay or rental probably.
Haha which projects in the vicinity can claim to have the famous Zoe Tay family as neigbours :)
I think she bought 2 or 3 units at The Parc, sold 1 few months back,
and keep the remaining units for own family stay or rental probably.
Haha which projects in the vicinity can claim to have the famous Zoe Tay family as neigbours :)
Are you sure Tay bought the Parc and not the Vision, I thought it is the latter.;)
successnowhere
10-08-10, 16:36
Are you sure Tay bought the Parc and not the Vision, I thought it is the latter.;)
I bot The Parc unit from her few months back, good facing, high floor and nice nos :)
devilplate
10-08-10, 16:42
I bot The Parc unit from her few months back, good facing, high floor and nice nos :)
wow...den u get to noe her IC, address...lol:D
wow...den u get to noe her IC, address...lol:D
For 4D or TOTO... :D
successnowhere
10-08-10, 23:11
HaHa! Me din tot of buying 4D or ToTo :banghead:
Anyway to protect the seller's privacy, I can't reveal anythin here
stalingrad
23-08-10, 10:46
http://i2.propertyguru.com.sg/images/thumb/5/1/f/4/51f4a83305692_1_V550.jpg
stalingrad
23-08-10, 10:48
Is it an invitation for perverts to peek or what?
Wah! If outside got nice view and nobody can look into my bathtub from outside of the window will be fantastic! Unfortunately that is not the case (that is the problem, a privacy issue, not the window problem).
http://i2.propertyguru.com.sg/images/thumb/5/1/f/4/51f4a83305692_1_V550.jpg
rattydrama
23-08-10, 11:39
Don’t accidently slip, drop, break the glass and kill yourself naked and affect the property price of all staying behind.:tongue3:
http://i2.propertyguru.com.sg/images/thumb/5/1/f/4/51f4a83305692_1_V550.jpg
devilplate
23-08-10, 11:53
actually wats wrong with clear glass windows in the bathroom?
just install a roller blind only wat...wats the big deal?:beats-me-man:
after using the bathrm, u can roll up ur blind and let more natural light to enter ur bathroom....no gd meh?
sad to say, nowadays, common bathrooms do not have any windows....after pang sai the smell stays there :D
Residents have to get the right blinds otherwise it may be able to see the human image in the night when the bathroom is lighted up.
devilplate
23-08-10, 12:25
Residents have to get the right blinds otherwise it may be able to see the human image in the night when the bathroom is lighted up.
blackout types lor...got bathrm windows definitely better den one w/o any windows:D
Watch out for those corners of the bathroom with windows. Ensure there are no big gaps between the two blinds too.
stalingrad
23-08-10, 12:50
would be easier to get a contractor to replace the clear window panes with frosted ones.
Yes if one prefer no windows in bathrooms, easier to just get a cheap frosted film n stick it up lor.
Others may prefer Flexibility of Chioces of when they can enjoy natural lights and when they want more privacy by using a blind...
One should read at the rule book of the condo. They may be some restrictions on the degree of visibility or colour of the film that one can use. On the other hand, the view that one is paying will be compromised with frosted glass??
One should read at the rule book of the condo. They may be some restrictions on the degree of visibility or colour of the film that one can use. On the other hand, the view that one is paying will be compromised with frosted glass??
Not a problem lah for the frosted films approved by management. Saw some units' bathrooms already comes with them.
Just open the windows if you want to let in air circulation and more natural light...
Or perhaps a blind which is more flexible...
successnowhere
28-08-10, 08:46
Dear Owners,
For main door grille and UV film, there are certain approved design display outside the MA office, so shouldn't be any problem if we follow strictly to that.
For more information, kindly visit this "The Parc Condo" forum
http://www.myhometown.sg/Forum/tabid/84/aff/99/aft/158965/afv/topic/afpgj/157/Default.aspx#223927
This one really suay... anything got to do with Lehman is suay...
Kanna Once... recover... Now Kanna Again... will recover? What tough Luck.
No wonder Joey Tay want to sell.
What u talking doesn't make sense. Out of the blue make such statement more like crying sour grape.
Anyway zoey tay still keeping a few units at the parc for her relatives n investment.
With the new government ruling, more PRs who had property back home who was looking to buy resale HDB, will now be turning to private property. Good news to all owners!
This one really suay... anything got to do with Lehman is suay...
Kanna Once... recover... Now Kanna Again... will recover? What tough Luck.
No wonder Joey Tay want to sell.
I think he may be sour. Nick suggests that he is ready to grab fire sales or bargains.
Let him be with his "rich cannot be bothered attitude". If got money just buy some more type.
applelemon
05-09-10, 21:43
I find his post redundant too.
successnowhere
11-09-10, 08:31
Dear Owner of The Parc,
A newly created forum just for all owners
www.parc.sg (http://www.parc.sg)
Dear Owner of The Parc,
A newly created forum just for all owners
www.parc.sg (http://www.parc.sg)
not much success right? Guess the owners don't come in here and those who come in here are not owners.
Anyway good luck!
I find his post redundant too.
still sour?
you are a lemon right?
applelemon
15-09-10, 20:52
Do u mean sour over an idiot like you? Where got time? I
still sour?
you are a lemon right?
Wow recently transacted subsale of The Parc Condo just clocked a new record high of $1,244 psf in September, even after gov measures in August,
showing the inherent strength of the parc and west coast/clementi property!
7 West Coast Walk #18-13
Freehold
$1244 psf
667 sq ft
$830k
02 Sep 10
The driving force for the properties (including hawker stalls and shops!) along west coast is proximity to Jurong Island, Jurong gateway, Clementi central, NUS & NUH and to a lesser extent Science Park:
Jurong Island itself is expanding hence increasing the need for more HDB rental http://www.edb.gov.sg/edb/sg/en_uk/index/industry_sectors/Chemicals.html
Time-frame: on-going but major boost is this year due to Shell and ExxonMobil expansion
The other driving force is the new Jurong gateway and shift of government agencies to Jurong gateway http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_519290.html
Time-frame: 5 years' time from now
NUS itself is building a university town http://utown.nus.edu.sg/
Time-frame: 2 years from now
With HDB rental increasing here, more people will be renting out (note most HDB owners in this area have stayed for more than 10 years, MOP is not an issue) and buy the nearby properties. In another word, demand for rental and properties in this stretch will likely to go up further as many properties here are FH or LH 999, and prices are still reasonable (1000 psf) compared to remote LH 99 properties (projected launch prices around 850 psf next year).
Note: The best location is still the HDB near the Clementi MRT (will win big time)
Wow recently transacted subsale of The Parc Condo just clocked a new record high of $1,244 psf in September, even after gov measures in August,
showing the inherent strength of the parc and west coast/clementi property!
7 West Coast Walk #18-13
Freehold
$1244 psf
667 sq ft
$830k
02 Sep 10
Bro. I think you got it wrong. The buyers must be cursing #@%@%@ lol...
you should look at the Option Date or the Letter of Offer date (which should be after 30 Aug 2010). Thereafter, the date of S&P lah (which is not 2 Sep 10). Trying to kid someone?
successnowhere
21-09-10, 09:54
Aiya! Whatever la as long as willing buyer and willing seller. Anyway, all recent transactions above $1k/psf already except for those ground floor with patio and penthouse unit.
I enjoy the view(sea, reservoir,city) every night:)
Don't need a fan very windy day and night :)
Bro. I think you got it wrong. The buyers must be cursing #@%@%@ lol...
you should look at the Option Date or the Letter of Offer date (which should be after 30 Aug 2010). Thereafter, the date of S&P lah (which is not 2 Sep 10). Trying to kid someone?
You are kidding yourself, or maybe you forget how ura caveats is shown on ura?
Yes, caveat is normally filed at the date of option execution, the option is executed on 2 Sept, after 30 Aug.
Even if you file 3 months later after S&P is completed, the contract date showing in the caveat filed will still be the option execution date, albeit appearing in URA 3 months later.
Yes, caveat is normally filed at the date of option execution, the option is executed on 2 Sept, after 30 Aug.
Even if you file 3 months later after S&P is completed, the date showing in the caveat filed will still be the option execution date, albeit appearing in URA 3 months later.
Really... not correct with mine version leh
Caveat date = executed S&P date. You mean to say S&P executed on 2 Sept.. which means they have already exercised the OTP (option to purchase), cannot back out right? even if prices drop 20%...
Time to lodge caveat can be different.
Anyway thanks for the info.. plan more.
Really... not correct with mine version leh
Caveat date = executed S&P date. You mean to say S&P executed on 2 Sept.. which means they have already exercised the OTP (option to purchase), cannot back out right? even if prices drop 20%...
Time to lodge caveat can be different.
Anyway thanks for the info.. plan more.
Yes, the caveat filed is usually the original OTP date (not the OTP execution date as I mentioned earlier, mistake).
So you see caveats usually appearing 2-3 weeks later at URA,
but the dates shown is usually 2-3 weeks earlier, where the OTP original date,
and they filed 2-3 weeks later after executing the OTP.
Some filed 3 months later after S&P/bank fully completed, so you see the caveat only appearing on URA 3 months later, but its contract date shown is usually a date which is 3 months earlier, i.e. the original OTP date.
Thus this guy is offered the original OTP on 2 Sept, after 30 Aug.
His caveat just appeared last Friday on the 17 Sept on URA (i.e. 2 weeks later after he executed the OTP then he filed with URA).
If he choose to file only after S&P is completed 3 months later, then the caveat on URA will only appear on 17 Dec, but still will show a date of 2 Sept.
You are kidding yourself, or maybe you forget how ura caveats is shown on ura?
Yes, caveat is normally filed at the date of option execution, the option is executed on 2 Sept, after 30 Aug.
Even if you file 3 months later after S&P is completed, the contract date showing in the caveat filed will still be the option execution date, albeit appearing in URA 3 months later.
You are right and I am right. Go read. under "as the case may be" :)
It's a little peculiar why the buyer acted in such a hurry to seal his fate.
REGISTRATION OF DEEDS ACT
(CHAPTER 269)
Caveats.
8. —(1) Subject to this section and the rules, a caveat in respect of any land may be —
(a) given by the proprietor of the land for any estate or interest therein in favour of any person named in the caveat; or
(b) lodged by any person claiming an estate or interest in the land.
(2) Such a caveat shall contain the following particulars:
Act 27/93 wef 1.3.94 videS39/94.
(a) the names of the caveator and the caveatee and their addresses for the service of notices under this Act;
(b) a description of the estate or interest in the land given to or claimed by the caveator and, if the caveator is the purchaser or sub-purchaser of the estate or interest claimed in the caveat, the amount of the purchase price and the date of the caveator’s contract or the date on which he exercised the option to purchase the interest in the land, as the case may be.
(3) Where a part of a Government survey lot is affected, the caveat shall have a plan annexed edging with sufficient identity that part of the lot affected.
(4) The Registrar shall not register a caveat which does not —
(a) disclose any estate or interest in land; or
(b) state the Government survey lot number maintained in the records of the Chief Surveyor or, in the case where a part of a Government survey lot is affected, does not state that part of the existing lot and does not clearly identify that part of the lot in one or more plans annexed to the caveat.
(5) Where, after the acceptance of any caveat for provisional registration, the Registrar discovers that the caveat does not comply with any of the requirements under this section or the rules, the Registrar may cancel the provisional registration.
(6) Notwithstanding subsections (4) and (5), the Registrar shall not be concerned to consider whether or not a caveator’s claim is justified.
(7) Where a caveat is lodged by a person claiming an estate or interest in land or by his solicitor or agent, such a person shall serve a notice by registered post on the proprietor of the land and all persons who have prior claims as shown in the register, and the Registrar shall not be concerned to inquire whether or not such a notice has been effected.
(8) If within the period during which a caveat remains in force any subsequent assurance made or executed in favour of the person to whom a caveat has been granted under subsection (1) (a) or in favour of the person who has lodged a caveat under subsection (1) (b) and conveying the same estate or interest protected by and so described in the subsisting caveat is presented and accepted for registration, that assurance when registered shall have priority as though it had been registered on the date the caveat was registered and that date shall be deemed to be the date of registration of the assurance for all purposes and to have been substituted in all certificates and other instruments for the date on which the assurance was actually presented for enrolment accordingly.
(9) A caveat registered under this Act shall, unless withdrawn by the caveator or cancelled by an order of court, be in force for a period of 5 years.
Yap thus the word "usually"/"normally" the case in my argument :)
if you judge by the timing it appear in URA (14 days later), and the date shown in the caveat (14 days earlier).
Yap thus the word "usually"/"normally" the case in my argument :)
if you judge by the timing it appear in URA (14 days later), and the date shown in the caveat (14 days earlier).
no worries. As the case may be... quite useful for your marketing talk to clients if you are a agent.
:)
devilplate
21-09-10, 10:35
most cases contract date refers to the OTP issued date and not the exercise date...
all buyers shd lodge caveat immediately after exercising the OTP to protect their own interest unless they bot from developer(may not even nid to lodge but bank will usually lodge instead)
This morning on URA, appeared another record high of $1,135 psf, even for a very large floor area unit of The Parc Condo.
Wow the quantum is a whopping $2.76Million !
These should continue to support and boost up the the bank valuations for the parc and most properties in west coast/clementi D5 area...
5 West Coast Walk #21-10
Freehold
$1,135 psf
2433 sq ft
$2,760k
06 Sep 10 (OTP Start/Issue Date in usual case, i.e. after gov measures in Aug)
stalingrad
21-09-10, 18:16
This morning on URA, appeared another record high of $1,135 psf, even for a very large floor area unit of The Parc Condo.
Wow the quantum is a whopping $2.76Million !
These should continue to support and boost up the the bank valuations for the parc and most properties in west coast/clementi D5 area...
5 West Coast Walk #21-10
Freehold
$1,135 psf
2433 sq ft
$2,760k
06 Sep 10 (OTP Start/Issue Date in usual case, i.e. after gov measures in Aug)
1,000 units for sale. what is the big deal about selling one or two per month at "record" prices? must owners will be still sitting on a big loss one or two years down the road.
1,000 units for sale. what is the big deal about selling one or two per month at "record" prices? must owners will be still sitting on a big loss one or two years down the road.
Unlikely to drop price, next year 99 LH condos at remote locations are going to sell at the price the The Parc (FH) was selling 3 year ago http://www.h88.com.sg/article/Sim+Lian+tops+bid+for+Hougang+land+parcel/
Even though The Parc facing is East West and served by a miserable small road, it is quite close to the MRT and rental in the area will hold the prices up. Furthermore there is no new FH or 999 LH condo TOP in the west coast area in the next 3 years, while the west side is under going economic transformation. If you want a condo in that area near the Clementi MRT, really this is the only one now.
devilplate
21-09-10, 18:59
1,000 units for sale. what is the big deal about selling one or two per month at "record" prices? must owners will be still sitting on a big loss one or two years down the road.'
if the parc drop price...ur carabelle also suffers lah...:doh:
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if the parc drop price...ur carabelle also suffers lah...:doh:
Precisely... all condos around the same area help to support and boost the bank valuations across the properties in vicinity.
Precisely... all condos around the same area help to support and boost the bank valuations across the properties in vicinity.
The king that supports the other condo prices along the west coast is The Vision (LH 99) at $1100 psf :eek:
http://thevisionsingapore.blogspot.com/
bargain hunter
21-09-10, 19:58
nevermind lah, no need to argue. we discuss again in 1 month's time, see caveats dated october, then its beyond doubt whether prices for The Parc has risen/fallen/maintained after the cooling measures. :)
stalingrad
21-09-10, 20:14
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if the parc drop price...ur carabelle also suffers lah...:doh:
that is not my concern, neither is it yours. I was just making a point, which is that out of a pile of garbage (1000 units) for sale, if one or two pieces of garbage are snatched up for whatever reasons for good prices, it means nothing. not that the other 999 pieces of garbage will fetch good prices before they turn to dust.
Haha... 2 units just transacted within the first week in Sept at breaking record prices, and just after drastic gov measures...that is significant! considering there are 1000,0000.. other advertised listings of residential units which were not sold in Singapore in that same week. :doh:
that is not my concern, neither is it yours. I was just making a point, which is that out of a pile of garbage (1000 units) for sale, if one or two pieces of garbage are snatched up for whatever reasons for good prices, it means nothing. not that the other 999 pieces of garbage will fetch good prices before they turn to dust.
proud owner
21-09-10, 21:36
Haha... 2 units just transacted within the first week in Sept at breaking record prices, and just after drastic gov measures...that is significant! considering there are 1000,0000.. other advertised listings of residential units which were not sold in Singapore in that same week. :doh:
in terms of Closest to MRT .. The parc is a clear winner ..
during the launch, the did think of buying there .. but the sheer size of the project turned me off..
also, regardless how they 'face' it .. i feel it will 'catch' the noise from the AYE .. and thats another reason why i didnt buy ..
pity those landed just next to it .. like living next to the Great wall
Lucky you didn't buy. To turn right from the tiny west coast walk to Pandan Circus is very difficult during peak hours. Imagine the jam when everyone shifts in. The problem will be made worse when Hundred Trees TOP in 3 years' time. Whole west coast road will be jammed up. Clearing the Clementi Ave 2 fly over will be a nightmare.
stalingrad
22-09-10, 08:21
Lucky you didn't buy. To turn right from the tiny west coast walk to Pandan Circus is very difficult during peak hours. Imagine the jam when everyone shifts in. The problem will be made worse when Hundred Trees TOP in 3 years' time. Whole west coast road will be jammed up. Clearing the Clementi Ave 2 fly over will be a nightmare.
not to mention how ugly it is.
Lucky you didn't buy. To turn right from the tiny west coast walk to Pandan Circus is very difficult during peak hours. Imagine the jam when everyone shifts in. The problem will be made worse when Hundred Trees TOP in 3 years' time. Whole west coast road will be jammed up. Clearing the Clementi Ave 2 fly over will be a nightmare.
Even the expressway is a nightmare! During peak hours. Morning and Evening.
Pollution and noise affecting the whole stretch!
I have to agree these issues are common in Singapore, in some places like bukit timah, novena, newton, it could be worse.
They are best directed to the LTA to work on...
One suggestion to LTA to smoothen the stretch of west coast road traffic,
is to build a direct entry road into AYE (city) when turning out from west coast road using Clementi Ave 2...
stalingrad
22-09-10, 10:30
I have to agree these issues are common in Singapore, in some places like bukit timah, novena, newton, it could be worse.
They are best directed to the LTA to work on...
One suggestion to LTA to smoothen the stretch of west coast road traffic,
is to build a direct entry road into AYE (city) when turning out from west coast road using Clementi Ave 2...
it is easy to get on AYE to the city from carabelle, just get on AYE westbound from west coast way and take a U turn at Jorong Townhall road. coming home from city is even easier.
Alternatively, to go to city, one could just get on west coast highway by going south first from west coast way.
as for schools, kids can walk to Nanhua or Qifa from carabelle, either of which is very close. As for the parc, I don't seen many advantages. it is neither here nor there, using you singaporeans' expressions. It takes a long time to get on the high way from the parc, and walking to nanhua or qifa would be quite a struggle, giving how long it would take.
the only thing good is the distance to MRT from the parc. but it is not exact a breeze to walk there. It takes at least 15 minutes.
no wonder, out of 1000 units, only one or two are selling each month.
I am not an agent, nor a hater of the parc condo. just stating the fact.
devilplate
22-09-10, 10:42
stay east side la...ECP by far the least congested for now:D
seriously, city areas always congested but command highest premium...its about location and not about traffic congestion la..:p
Did you make a mistake? I have been living around that areas for long time and I am sure West Coast areas' traffics & pollutions are much much worse than those areas you mentioned below, not to mention the hazards from those hell-driving lorry drivers and dangerous super-long transportation vehicles.
I have to agree these issues are common in Singapore, in some places like bukit timah, novena, newton, it could be worse.
They are best directed to the LTA to work on...
One suggestion to LTA to smoothen the stretch of west coast road traffic,
is to build a direct entry road into AYE (city) when turning out from west coast road using Clementi Ave 2...
stalingrad
22-09-10, 11:21
stay east side la...ECP by far the least congested for now:D
seriously, city areas always congested but command highest premium...its about location and not about traffic congestion la..:p
ECP may not be very congested, but the roads in D15 and 16 are horrible to travel on. Always very very jammed, and always flooded after just a little rain.
Are you sure? I have travelled via ECP during peak hours (as well as other expressways) and I am sure ECP is one of the worst (not much better than the notorious CTE). City areas congestion during peak hours (I am sure) is not worse than D15 and D16 small roads, but have the advantage that go anywhere also short distance and short time required by virtue of its central location and no need to take any expressway (vs D15 & D16, take ECP lagi worst!). :banghead:
You are right! Location location location! Good location less distance and less time required to travel. Bad location, travel takes long distance and even longer time (because of the traffic jams everywhere, especially those small narrow roads and vehicles parking and waiting at the side of the roads! These won't happen in city because sure get summon within 5 mins! Ops!).
stay east side la...ECP by far the least congested for now:D
seriously, city areas always congested but command highest premium...its about location and not about traffic congestion la..:p
ECP may not be very congested, but the roads in D15 and 16 are horrible to travel on. Always very very jammed, and always flooded after just a little rain.
have you experience that or hear say ?
i have been living in this area for years, the roads are never VERY VERY jammed.
stalingrad
22-09-10, 11:41
have you experience that or hear say ?
i have been living in this area for years, the roads are never VERY VERY jammed.
I don't live there but travel there often. It is very very jammed, especially the Katong mall area.
I remember trying to find parking at night near the mall before dining on frog legs. the road is lined with parked cars on both sides, and with pedestrians walking every which way, you can't even move one inch let along parking your cars. finally we gave up and head home to dine on chicken legs.
will never live in D15 or 16.
proud owner
22-09-10, 11:44
stay east side la...ECP by far the least congested for now:D
seriously, city areas always congested but command highest premium...its about location and not about traffic congestion la..:p
ECP jam is the second worse, after CTE ( during peak hr) ..also have ERP .. must pay and yet still jam
D15 roads also jam ..narrow ...
the best drivng home direction is westcoast highway ... from CBD
stalingrad
22-09-10, 11:47
ECP jam is the second worse, after CTE ( during peak hr) ..also have ERP .. must pay and yet still jam
D15 roads also jam ..narrow ...
the best drivng home direction is westcoast highway ... from CBD
Used to be good. but now they are building this flyover at the clementi road junction. Now it is jammed for about 0.5 km either way at the turn signal.
proud owner
22-09-10, 11:51
Used to be good. but now they are building this flyover at the clementi road junction. Now it is jammed for about 0.5 km either way at the turn signal.
really ?
havent been there for a while
i used to exit at alexandra ... and a short drive to South buona vista
is there a new entrance or exit between Clementi junction and alexandra exit ?
stalingrad
22-09-10, 11:58
really ?
havent been there for a while
i used to exit at alexandra ... and a short drive to South buona vista
is there a new entrance or exit between Clementi junction and alexandra exit ?
No new exit or entrance. You used to own the stellar, so you should know. they are building a flyover right in front of the entrance of the port, which lies at the end of clementi road. the flyover lies from east to west, to allow traffic on west coast highway to continue without stopping at the traffic light at the port entrance.
but it is a huge flyover and will take a long time to complete. while it is being built, the traffic near the port entrance is terribly affected. getting onto the highway from clementi road is still quite easy, but turning into clementi road from the highway is nightmarish. and the traffic east or west bound is slowed to a crawl at certain points of the day.
proud owner
22-09-10, 12:00
No new exit or entrance. You used to own the stellar, so you should know. they are building a flyover right in front of the entrance of the port, which lies at the end of clementi road. the flyover lies from east to west, to allow traffic on west coast highway to continue without stopping at the traffic light at the port entrance.
but it is a huge flyover and will take a long time to complete. while it is being built, the traffic near the port entrance is terribly affected. getting onto the highway from clementi road is still quite easy, but turning into clementi road from the highway is nightmarish. and the traffic east or west bound is slowed to a crawl at certain points of the day.
ic
anyway i have sold my stellar ... still keeping my house at south buona vista ...
guess once the flyover is complete ..all will be smooth again
just hope they dont add ERP
stalingrad
22-09-10, 12:01
ic
anyway i have sold my stellar ... still keeping my house at south buona vista ...
guess once the flyover is complete ..all will be smooth again
just hope they dont add ERP
no ERP is necessary in this area. as you said, this area has the best traffic flow. compared with D15 and 16, we live in heaven.
no ERP is necessary in this area. as you said, this area has the best traffic flow. compared with D15 and 16, we live in heaven.
Best? U really think so?
Containers, trucks and buses plenty right?
Best traffic flow will be at KPE lah, that's why have to set a limit there or else it will be the envy of others.
:p:D:cheers1: What a sharp comment! Best because with all those vehicles there, nobody can speeding mah... :scared-3:
(Ops, I forgot it is the lorries, container trucks which are speeding there and trying to over-take each other and block up all the lanes travelling at about the same speed!). :banghead:
Best? U really think so?
Containers, trucks and buses plenty right?
Best traffic flow will be at KPE lah, that's why have to set a limit there or else it will be the envy of others.
stalingrad
22-09-10, 15:03
:p:D:cheers1: What a sharp comment! Best because with all those vehicles there, nobody can speeding mah... :scared-3:
(Ops, I forgot it is the lorries, container trucks which are speeding there and trying to over-take each other and block up all the lanes travelling at about the same speed!). :banghead:
are you guys kidding? At most stretches of west coast highway, there are few vehicles. Sometimes, you have to look hard to see a vehicle ahead of you or behind. It is when the highway enters CBD that traffic becomes heavy. That is after vivo city. My wife drives to anson road everyday, she can get in her office in 20 minutes from our home at Carabelle. she now drives a 2.4L honda accord. the only thing that prevents her from flying all the way to her office is traffic police. the traffic is very light on the highway.
20mins? what time period is that?
are you guys kidding? At most stretches of west coast highway, there are few vehicles. Sometimes, you have to look hard to see a vehicle ahead of you or behind. It is when the highway enters CBD that traffic becomes heavy. That is after vivo city. My wife drives to anson road everyday, she can get in her office in 20 minutes from our home at Carabelle. she now drives a 2.4L honda accord. the only thing that prevents her from flying all the way to her office is traffic police. the traffic is very light on the highway.
stalingrad
22-09-10, 15:21
20mins? what time period is that?
she has to be in her office by 9am.
but that is by west coast highway. if she takes AYE, which jams easily, it would a longer.
west coast highway, goes past vivocity, gets on Keppel road, then anson road. 20 minutes.
By the way, from Newton to Anson only took me 5 mins. Still, 20 mins not that bad but that is during school holidays? I found that the further from central area you live and during school holidays, the time of travel is much much faster than during school term.
she has to be in her office by 9am.
but that is by west coast highway. if she takes AYE, which jams easily, it would a longer.
west coast highway, goes past vivocity, gets on Keppel road, then anson road. 20 minutes.
bargain hunter
22-09-10, 16:21
newton to anson what route u take can reach in 5 mins? after 9am?
By the way, from Newton to Anson only took me 5 mins. Still, 20 mins not that bad but that is during school holidays? I found that the further from central area you live and during school holidays, the time of travel is much much faster than during school term.
stalingrad
22-09-10, 16:35
newton to anson what route u take can reach in 5 mins? after 9am?
I doubt he can do that. maybe he flies regularly in a helicopter.
bargain hunter
22-09-10, 16:45
i would assume he starts from newton circus, sprints along scotts road, paterson, kim seng, outram then cantoment roads to hit Anson. unless all the lights are green when he arrives and there are no other cars on the road.........
anyway, teddy, if u have a shorter route, do let me know, i am curious to know. :)
I doubt he can do that. maybe he flies regularly in a helicopter.
Can lah, in the morning 6.30am. (You get my joke? Ha ha!). Alternative road is up CTE and exit Outram (if you live nearer to Novena side of Newton). :D
i would assume he starts from newton circus, sprints along scotts road, paterson, kim seng, outram then cantoment roads to hit Anson. unless all the lights are green when he arrives and there are no other cars on the road.........
anyway, teddy, if u have a shorter route, do let me know, i am curious to know. :)
bargain hunter
22-09-10, 16:51
another way is to turn off from kim seng into havelock road but i still can't see 5mins to be achievable.
anyway, 20mins from The Parc to Anson in peak hour traffic is about right.
stalingrad
22-09-10, 16:51
i would assume he starts from newton circus, sprints along scotts road, paterson, kim seng, outram then cantoment roads to hit Anson. unless all the lights are green when he arrives and there are no other cars on the road.........
anyway, teddy, if u have a shorter route, do let me know, i am curious to know. :)
I doubt that. Scotts road is horrible in the morning. So many cars taking U turns. he has to fly.
stalingrad
22-09-10, 16:53
another way is to turn off from kim seng into havelock road but i still can't see 5mins to be achievable.
anyway, 20mins from The Parc to Anson in peak hour traffic is about right.
No I meant from carabelle to anson in 20 minutes. from parc it would be longer. the parc is located in a corner that is hard to get out of. it doesn't have direct access to west coast highway. carabelle does.
I think you are totally wrong. Scotts Road is smooth traffic in the morning.
I doubt that. Scotts road is horrible in the morning. So many cars taking U turns. he has to fly.
bargain hunter
22-09-10, 16:57
but your observation about school holidays is correct. its definitely faster to travel during school holidays for OCR.
By the way, from Newton to Anson only took me 5 mins. Still, 20 mins not that bad but that is during school holidays? I found that the further from central area you live and during school holidays, the time of travel is much much faster than during school term.
stalingrad
22-09-10, 16:58
I think you are totally wrong. Scotts Road is smooth traffic in the morning.
smooth at 6:30am? of course. even smoother at 4:30am.
Actually you will be surprised! By taking CTE (if you live near Novena side), it really takes only 5 mins to reach Anson during smooth traffic! :cheers1:
another way is to turn off from kim seng into havelock road but i still can't see 5mins to be achievable.
anyway, 20mins from The Parc to Anson in peak hour traffic is about right.
Unless the traffic has become so much better now in West Coast -> Anson, 30mins seem more realistic.
another way is to turn off from kim seng into havelock road but i still can't see 5mins to be achievable.
anyway, 20mins from The Parc to Anson in peak hour traffic is about right.
stalingrad
22-09-10, 17:04
Unless the traffic has become so much better now in West Coast -> Anson, 30mins seem more realistic.
west coast highway, yes. very smooth. try it, and you will agree with me.
bargain hunter
22-09-10, 17:17
u said newton mah. if novena possible but not in peak hours lor. :)
Actually you will be surprised! By taking CTE (if you live near Novena side), it really takes only 5 mins to reach Anson during smooth traffic! :cheers1:
Newton Road got the other side at Novena MRT station there mah. "Novena" is an area, cannot find exact location on map (since don't have "Novena Road", only can find Newton Road mah (my "Newton" refers to "Newton Road"). :D
u said newton mah. if novena possible but not in peak hours lor. :)
stalingrad
22-09-10, 17:51
Newton Road got the other side at Novena MRT station there mah. "Novena" is an area, cannot find exact location on map (since don't have "Novena Road", only can find Newton Road mah (my "Newton" refers to "Newton Road"). :D
master of debate. can't beat this guy.
Ha ha ha! This is not a matter of debate. It is that what I said is true!:
From Newton, By taking CTE (if you live near Novena side), it really takes only 5 mins to reach Anson during smooth traffic!
Are you able to make below statements?:
From Carabelle, by taking <whatever roads (even your super fast and jam-free West Coast Highway)>, it really takes only 5 mins to reach Anson during smooth traffic??? :tongue3:
master of debate. can't beat this guy.
Actually you will be surprised! By taking CTE (if you live near Novena side), it really takes only 5 mins to reach Anson during smooth traffic! :cheers1:
stalingrad
22-09-10, 20:09
another good thing about West Coast is that this place never floods, unlike many other places on the island.
The west is never meant for the rich to stay..going by statistics, you will see the rich prefer the east (of course central is the best). The west is meant mainly for factory workers and blue collar workers...polluted by industrial estates. It was and will always be..
AYE and West Coast highway are frequented by container trucks, lorries from the port to industrial areas which made them dangerous for cars to travel next to them. Accident with these vehicles will be fatal. It may not be your fault but you will be dead right. :D
East is where the airport is and west is for industrial estate. For people like me who flies frequent, they would never consider stay in the west. :D I will buy property in the west to rent out though but never for own stay..
proud owner
22-09-10, 22:06
Can lah, in the morning 6.30am. (You get my joke? Ha ha!). Alternative road is up CTE and exit Outram (if you live nearer to Novena side of Newton). :D
walau eh
you joker lah ...
when i was in spore .. i drive from pasir panjang to Battery road .. in 8mins .. from my drive way to office basement car park ..
i leave home 7.30 ..
when i was staying at rivervalley .. about 5-7mins .. surprised ?
it seems traffic into CBD is heavier N to S direction ..
while going into CBD from the south is much smoother ..
so i have to agree with Stalingrad
proud owner
22-09-10, 22:11
The west is never meant for the rich to stay..going by statistics, you will see the rich prefer the east (of course central is the best). The west is meant mainly for factory workers and blue collar workers...polluted by industrial estates. It was and will always be..
AYE and West Coast highway are frequented by container trucks, lorries from the port to industrial areas which made them dangerous for cars to travel next to them. Accident with these vehicles will be fatal. It may not be your fault but you will be dead right. :D
East is where the airport is and west is for industrial estate. For people like me who flies frequent, they would never consider stay in the west. :D I will buy property in the west to rent out though but never for own stay..
how often do you fly ?
you make yourself sound like high flyer ...
fly often, rich people stay east side .. walau eh
your modesty is second to none ..
Hmm... Newton to Anson Road in 5 mins...
Sound like the movie "Gone in 300 seconds". Maybe can put the poster of a Ferrari driving Singapore roads at 3am.
Ha ha ha! This is not a matter of debate. It is that what I said is true!:
From Newton, By taking CTE (if you live near Novena side), it really takes only 5 mins to reach Anson during smooth traffic!
Are you able to make below statements?:
From Carabelle, by taking <whatever roads (even your super fast and jam-free West Coast Highway)>, it really takes only 5 mins to reach Anson during smooth traffic??? :tongue3:
proud owner
22-09-10, 22:14
Hmm... Newton to Anson Road in 5 mins...
Sound like the movie "Gone in 300 seconds". Maybe can put the poster of a Ferrari driving Singapore roads at 3am.
hey come to think of it it is possible ..
first he said 6.30 am ..
then he said newton (but also said near novena) ..
i think he is driving an AMBULANCE from TTS hospital to Anson.. with the Siren on .. people will give way ... plus 6.30 am .. i am not surprised he makes it in 5 mins
:)..Assuming all lights in his favour...he would need to execute the three tricky turns...Moulmein Road to Balestier, Balestier to CTE and CTE to Outram Road at high speed (of course I am assuming he takes this route, there could be others).
hey come to think of it it is possible ..
first he said 6.30 am ..
then he said newton (but also said near novena) ..
i think he is driving an AMBULANCE from TTS hospital to Anson.. with the Siren on .. people will give way ... plus 6.30 am .. i am not surprised he makes it in 5 mins
proud owner
22-09-10, 22:29
:)..Assuming all lights in his favour...he would need to execute the three tricky turns...Moulmein Road to Balestier, Balestier to CTE and CTE to Outram Road at high speed (of course I am assuming he takes this route, there could be others).
like i said ... he drives an ambulance ... with siren on
high chance that the ambulance will flip at the turns...
like i said ... he drives an ambulance ... with siren on
stalingrad
23-09-10, 09:54
how often do you fly ?
you make yourself sound like high flyer ...
fly often, rich people stay east side .. walau eh
your modesty is second to none ..
yes, he is either a pilot or flight attendant. He flies so much that he must live near the airport. haha, what a joke.
I flies about 4 or five times a year, mostly to canada or the US. My wife flies on a monthly basis, mostly to China or Japan. We have never thought that we must live in the east just because we fly so often.
stalingrad
23-09-10, 10:00
hey come to think of it it is possible ..
first he said 6.30 am ..
then he said newton (but also said near novena) ..
i think he is driving an AMBULANCE from TTS hospital to Anson.. with the Siren on .. people will give way ... plus 6.30 am .. i am not surprised he makes it in 5 mins
haha, thank you. you got him good.
I actually did not get angry with teddy. I thought he was full of shit, but since it was so obvious that he was full of it, I just let it slide. life is too short to argue over such a little matter.
stalingrad
23-09-10, 10:02
high chance that the ambulance will flip at the turns...
Ouch!!!. that is probably why he still walks with a limp.
bargain hunter
23-09-10, 10:16
its the F1 weekend starting tomorrow. he probably borrowed one of the F1 cars and got LTA to do road closures from Newton/Moulmein/Balestier/CTE/Outram Road/Cantoment/Anson Road. I think can do in under 3 mins. :ashamed1: :D
devilplate
23-09-10, 10:18
its the F1 weekend starting tomorrow. he probably borrowed one of the F1 cars and got LTA to do road closures from Newton/Moulmein/Balestier/CTE/Outram Road/Cantoment/Anson Road. I think can do in under 3 mins. :ashamed1: :D
by the way: TRAFFIC very bad around tat area these few days...can find firesale for TS/MBR just for tat?:p
:p:D:cheers1: What a sharp comment! Best because with all those vehicles there, nobody can speeding mah... :scared-3:
(Ops, I forgot it is the lorries, container trucks which are speeding there and trying to over-take each other and block up all the lanes travelling at about the same speed!). :banghead:
I agree. Look at ALL the problem IDENTIFIED... meeting with LTA required. All supporters for West Coast Highway, get the facts right~!
Can say Since 2007. Things might improve when all the construction are done.
http://www.pasirpanjang.org/LTAmeeting.doc
http://www.pasirpanjang.org/PPPEA_Minutes_28_Jan_2010_(PPPEA).doc
bargain hunter
23-09-10, 10:29
i thought that is the reason to stay in TS/MBR? to enjoy the road closures, be part of the action and watch F1 for free? :)
by the way: TRAFFIC very bad around tat area these few days...can find firesale for TS/MBR just for tat?:p
devilplate
23-09-10, 10:47
i thought that is the reason to stay in TS/MBR? to enjoy the road closures, be part of the action and watch F1 for free? :)
so if F1 contract finish and nvr renew....expect prices over there to drop?
bargain hunter
23-09-10, 10:49
still have national day/x'mas/CNY fireworks? :doh: hahaha
so if F1 contract finish and nvr renew....expect prices over there to drop?
How is the traffic noise level at the Parc as there was an article on MRT noise? Quite a lot of container truck along this road.
I agree. Look at ALL the problem IDENTIFIED... meeting with LTA required. All supporters for West Coast Highway, get the facts right~!
Can say Since 2007. Things might improve when all the construction are done.
http://www.pasirpanjang.org/LTAmeeting.doc
http://www.pasirpanjang.org/PPPEA_Minutes_28_Jan_2010_(PPPEA).doc
I think possible to do it 5mins from Novena to Anson because I tried it before (in smooth traffic condition).
hey come to think of it it is possible ..
first he said 6.30 am ..
then he said newton (but also said near novena) ..
i think he is driving an AMBULANCE from TTS hospital to Anson.. with the Siren on .. people will give way ... plus 6.30 am .. i am not surprised he makes it in 5 mins
I think possible to do it 5mins from Novena to Anson because I tried it before (in smooth traffic condition).
Where did you count your starting point and ending point?
Getting to/from the entry and exit of CTE already take sometimes more than 5 mins already...with the traffic lights and all, even in smooth traffic.
devilplate
23-09-10, 11:20
does it really matter if its 5 or 10mins? life is so short for u guys ar?:p
I think possible to do it 5mins from Novena to Anson because I tried it before (in smooth traffic condition).
http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/cool_story_bro.jpg
Might as well stay in hotel better if just for a few days for F1 only and nothing else since got better ambience? :p
i thought that is the reason to stay in TS/MBR? to enjoy the road closures, be part of the action and watch F1 for free? :)
If you live around there, you will know where got need 5mins to get onto CTE from Novena in smooth traffic? :cheers1:
Where did you count your starting point and ending point?
Getting to/from the entry and exit of CTE already take sometimes more than 5 mins already...with the traffic lights and all, even in smooth traffic.
So you can't prove that it is not possible right (despite your sarcastic remarks)? :p:cheers1:
hey come to think of it it is possible ..
first he said 6.30 am ..
then he said newton (but also said near novena) ..
i think he is driving an AMBULANCE from TTS hospital to Anson.. with the Siren on .. people will give way ... plus 6.30 am .. i am not surprised he makes it in 5 mins
As you said "When I was in spore ...". What you said is "History". Now is different. Pasir Panjang to Battery Road in the morning peak hours take "ages" (literally).
walau eh
you joker lah ...
when i was in spore .. i drive from pasir panjang to Battery road .. in 8mins .. from my drive way to office basement car park ..
i leave home 7.30 ..
when i was staying at rivervalley .. about 5-7mins .. surprised ?
it seems traffic into CBD is heavier N to S direction ..
while going into CBD from the south is much smoother ..
so i have to agree with Stalingrad
From Novena need to go to Balestier in order to get onto CTE meh?? :doh: You are completely ignorant about that place. Please get your facts right before sprouting non-sense! :jaw-dropping:
:)..Assuming all lights in his favour...he would need to execute the three tricky turns...Moulmein Road to Balestier, Balestier to CTE and CTE to Outram Road at high speed (of course I am assuming he takes this route, there could be others).
Well...I already said "(of course I am assuming he takes this route, there could be others)".
so what are your other routes?
From Novena need to go to Balestier in order to get onto CTE meh?? :doh: You are completely ignorant about that place. Please get your facts right before sprouting non-sense! :jaw-dropping:
bargain hunter
23-09-10, 13:59
i think teddy didn't get what u mean. but i know what u mean, drive till the end of moulmein road, u need to turn into a few metres of balestier road to go up the slip road to CTE.
Well...I already said "(of course I am assuming he takes this route, there could be others)".
so what are your other routes?
Yup. That is correct.
Seems like I will have to state the goal posts as well...The start line will be at Revenue House (along Newton Road towards the direction of Moulmein Road). Give some advantage as it is the near the end of Newton Road.
The end line will be behind Tg Pagar Complex (along Anson Road).
i think teddy didn't get what u mean. but i know what u mean, drive till the end of moulmein road, u need to turn into a few metres of balestier road to go up the slip road to CTE.
bargain hunter
23-09-10, 15:20
seriously, i think the slowest F1 car on the grid can do it in under 3mins with road closures. ;)
Yup. That is correct.
Seems like I will have to state the goal posts as well...The start line will be at Revenue House (along Newton Road towards the direction of Moulmein Road). Give some advantage as it is the near the end of Newton Road.
The end line will be behind Tg Pagar Complex (along Anson Road).
stalingrad
23-09-10, 16:35
seriously, i think the slowest F1 car on the grid can do it in under 3mins with road closures. ;)
my wife honda accord 2.4L can do that is 2 minutes. haha, she likes to fly and have me pay the gas bills.
yes, he is either a pilot or flight attendant. He flies so much that he must live near the airport. haha, what a joke.
I flies about 4 or five times a year, mostly to canada or the US. My wife flies on a monthly basis, mostly to China or Japan. We have never thought that we must live in the east just because we fly so often.
You are the real clown again...haha..first you call me a property agent, now I am either a pilot or flight attendant. You like to jump to conclusion real fast, aren't you? Strange, I had similar answer from my primary 3 nephew too. But you are only slightly knowledgeable than him as he didn't mention flight attendant..:D Guess I shouldn't expect more from you as you coudn't spell or start a sentence as good as him.
List of those people who are fly frequently (not exhaustive):
1) Businessmen who have overseas operations
2) CFOs/Accountant who oversee overseas finance of the company
3) GMs who are in-charge of regional offices
4) Regional marketing head in-charge of regional sales
4) Auditors who performs oversea audits for MNC
and the list goes on...
Frequency is relative..I have neighbour who flies once every week and friends who fly once a month. To me, my neighbour flies more frequent than me. To my friends, I fly more frequent than them.
bargain hunter
23-09-10, 18:53
don't think so. the distance is not that short. ;) :D i estimate the route is around 8km long with twists and turns so maybe even an F1 car may find it challenging to do it in 3mins. :) need to average 160km/h despite the twists and turns. >300km/h for straights but outram road exit turn into outram road brake down to 60km/h...and don't forget the other turns...not easy.
my wife honda accord 2.4L can do that is 2 minutes. haha, she likes to fly and have me pay the gas bills.
i used to stay at both united square and west coast vicinity, driving a 7 sec car, and aggressively.
West coast to Anson 7 mins possible.
Newton to Anson 7 mins impossible.
Cairnhill to Anson via CTE possible.
To me newton is the traditional boundary south of newton circus.
Of course if you live balestier next to the CTE entrance, 5 mins to anson is possible.
stalingrad
23-09-10, 20:12
i used to stay at both united square and west coast vicinity, driving a 7 sec car, and aggressively.
West coast to Anson 7 mins possible.
Newton to Anson 7 mins impossible.
Cairnhill to Anson via CTE possible.
To me newton is the traditional boundary south of newton circus.
Of course if you live balestier next to the CTE entrance, 5 mins to anson is possible.
now the expert has spoken. it seems 20 minutes from carabelle to anson is just an conservative estimate.
I knew that 5 minutes from newton to anson is an impossibility. I would need at least 20 minutes to do so. lousy driver I am.
Conservative? Last night, it took me 45 mins to drive from West Coast to Shenton Way! What conservative are you talking about?
now the expert has spoken. it seems 20 minutes from carabelle to anson is just an conservative estimate.
I knew that 5 minutes from newton to anson is an impossibility. I would need at least 20 minutes to do so. lousy driver I am.
stalingrad
23-09-10, 20:46
Conservative? Last night, it took me 45 mins to drive from West Coast to Shenton Way! What conservative are you talking about?
errrr, did you drive an accord with 2.4l engine or an equivalent? traffic was terrible last night?
Even driving a F1 also useless under that sort of road traffic, some more with those road hoggers hogging the right-most lane (even lorries and pickups can be driving on those lanes!).
errrr, did you drive an accord with 2.4l engine or an equivalent? traffic was terrible last night?
Wah, never know Pasir Panjang / West Coast got so many traffic problems! So who saying even peak hours only take 20 mins from West Coast to Anson? :doh:
I drive very frequently from West Coast to just Vivo and during peak hours already taking me >35 mins! :banghead:
I agree. Look at ALL the problem IDENTIFIED... meeting with LTA required. All supporters for West Coast Highway, get the facts right~!
Can say Since 2007. Things might improve when all the construction are done.
http://www.pasirpanjang.org/LTAmeeting.doc
http://www.pasirpanjang.org/PPPEA_Minutes_28_Jan_2010_(PPPEA).doc (http://www.pasirpanjang.org/PPPEA_Minutes_28_Jan_2010_%28PPPEA%29.doc)
Just caught more proof that you are full of shits... (Thanks to Cashrich for the meeting minutes between PP & LTA):
Some extracts of traffic & flooding problems at West Coast:
PPPEA enquired whether the port development may have caused some flooding to residential units along Jalan Mat Jambol.
PPPEA pointed out that some loud thud sound believed to have originated from the port terminal was heard
PPPEA pointed out that vibration from passing heavy vehicle was felt at residential units...
Traffic situation at South Buona Vista Road / West Coast Highway / Pasir Panjang Road junction
PPPEA members shared with all that a number of accidents and near misses have taken place at this junction.
PPPEA highlighted the heavy traffic congestion problem...
many vehicles illegally parking along this stretch of the road...
another good thing about West Coast is that this place never floods, unlike many other places on the island.
Remind me of the story about 4 blind man and elephant..
Just caught more proof that you are full of shits... (Thanks to Cashrich for the meeting minutes between PP & LTA):
I had already proven that some time back as he passed biased remarks on Nanhua Pri School when his son fail to get in and criticisms against Singaporeans but still sleeping next to one. Whenever I watch the face changing opera in Beijing, it just reminds me that there is such a person in Singapore that change face faster than the opera performer. :D
my wife honda accord 2.4L can do that is 2 minutes. haha, she likes to fly and have me pay the gas bills.
Ops! So his wife is a honda accord 2.4L...hmm:eek:
let me qualify my statement. when i say possible i mean zero traffic, normal traffic lights. this is only ideal early morning say 3pm-ish, when traffic lights switch fast. from the edge of west coast u hit one light before flyover, and the next one you encounter is all the way at tg pagar railway. this is a popular rounding route.
from newton roundabout there are too many traffic lights to anson.
either way, it does not represent real-life driving conditions.
claiming which one reaches anson faster is silly - they are two v different locales and to each his own.
otherwise from iskandar can reach anson in 20 mins too - in ideal conditions of 5 mins customs clearance and 240kph
in ideal driving condition i can reach marina bay sands in 30 seconds. but today it took 30 mins.
just chill and enjoy life lah, dun need to slam people.
devilplate
24-09-10, 10:22
life is so so short mah
every min counts for them:D
proud owner
24-09-10, 11:02
You are the real clown again...haha..first you call me a property agent, now I am either a pilot or flight attendant. You like to jump to conclusion real fast, aren't you? Strange, I had similar answer from my primary 3 nephew too. But you are only slightly knowledgeable than him as he didn't mention flight attendant..:D Guess I shouldn't expect more from you as you coudn't spell or start a sentence as good as him.
List of those people who are fly frequently (not exhaustive):
1) Businessmen who have overseas operations
2) CFOs/Accountant who oversee overseas finance of the company
3) GMs who are in-charge of regional offices
4) Regional marketing head in-charge of regional sales
4) Auditors who performs oversea audits for MNC
and the list goes on...
Frequency is relative..I have neighbour who flies once every week and friends who fly once a month. To me, my neighbour flies more frequent than me. To my friends, I fly more frequent than them.
sorry ah
i have nothing against you
but you tried to point out his mistake(highlighted in red)
then you have your list with your own mistakes ( in lavender )
technically, OVERSEES OVERSEA is not wrong, BUT ask any english teachers, they would strongly discourage it
also which REGIONAL head is NOT in charge of REGIONAL sales ?
i have not known of any REGIONAL head who is responsible for only Singapore operations ..
yours are REPEAT AGAIN kind of mistake ..
proud owner
24-09-10, 11:06
Wah, never know Pasir Panjang / West Coast got so many traffic problems! So who saying even peak hours only take 20 mins from West Coast to Anson? :doh:
I drive very frequently from West Coast to just Vivo and during peak hours already taking me >35 mins! :banghead:
to VIVO different lah ...the jam is VIVO and sentosa mah
seriously i drive from south buona vista to battery road 8mins only if i leave my house before 7.30am
to VIVO different lah ...the jam is VIVO and sentosa mah
seriously i drive from south buona vista to battery road 8mins only if i leave my house before 7.30am
South Buona vista can be a problem with traffic too in the morning.
proud owner
24-09-10, 11:16
South Buona vista can be a problem with traffic too in the morning.
really ?
i am near SBV rd but not exactly there ..
if i go into too much detail ... you will know exactly where i stay ehhe
Not only there. Depending on the route you take, it could be very heavy traffic along Telok Blangah Road, + Alexandra Road, + AYE. Even turning into AYE from South Bouna Vista Road already itself taking more than 5 mins during rush hours! Take the winding "99-bends" SBV road then TBR even worse!
to VIVO different lah ...the jam is VIVO and sentosa mah
seriously i drive from south buona vista to battery road 8mins only if i leave my house before 7.30am
proud owner
24-09-10, 11:34
Not only there. Depending on the route you take, it could be very heavy traffic along Telok Blangah Road, + Alexandra Road, + AYE. Even turning into AYE from South Bouna Vista Road already itself taking more than 5 mins during rush hours! Take the winding "99-bends" SBV road then TBR even worse!
ok i went by pasir panjang to alexander , up the highway after telok blangah .. all they way towards ECP and exit to MBFc ..
from my experience ... only stopped 2 traffic lights before west coast highway .. and 2 traffic light between MBFC and battery road
OR exit highway , go by keppel , pass railway station .. after that .. the traffic lights all synchronised .. beat one, beat all
I have a friend who stays around there said he had problem getting from there becos of the traffic is rather heavy.
really ?
i am near SBV rd but not exactly there ..
if i go into too much detail ... you will know exactly where i stay ehhe
proud owner
24-09-10, 12:09
I have a friend who stays around there said he had problem getting from there becos of the traffic is rather heavy.
hhmmm
well i live oversea now .. its been over a year since i was back ...
maybe the condition has gotten bad ..
but no worries ... my house is very near MRT ... not the one next to Parc Imperial
stalingrad
24-09-10, 12:15
Wah, never know Pasir Panjang / West Coast got so many traffic problems! So who saying even peak hours only take 20 mins from West Coast to Anson? :doh:
I drive very frequently from West Coast to just Vivo and during peak hours already taking me >35 mins! :banghead:
First, please get the fact straight. If you take pasir panjang road, of course it will be congested and you wouldn't be able to get to anson road in 20 minutes road. If you take west coast highway from carabelle, it is all the way to keppel and anson with no jams along the way. Then, you will be arrive at anson road in 20 minutes.
so, don't complain to me about my lying after you took Pasir panjang road. Take west coast highway all the way, and connect to keppel road.
Second, as I said, they are building a flyover at west coast highway and clementi road, so traffic recently has been slowed considerably. when the flyover is completed, I will guarantee you that 20 minutes is enough for you to arrive at Anson road.
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