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Tony Blair
22-04-08, 15:13
Launching soon.......May......

Eastman
28-04-08, 14:52
Where and 4 how much please...? Thanks

IMPORTANT!
28-04-08, 15:01
Who is the developer? Must be reputable one lah. Otherwise like Malaysia and Indonesia buildings, sell already got no money to build.... all built halfway one...

singapore boleh!
28-04-08, 15:04
Who is the developer? Must be reputable one lah. Otherwise like Malaysia and Indonesia buildings, sell already got no money to build.... all built halfway one...

Won't one lah. Singapore not like rest of the world. Singapore is unique. We will never ever have recession here and Singapore property prices and economy will forever go up up and away!

Cock Sensor
28-04-08, 15:16
Won't one lah. Singapore not like rest of the world. Singapore is unique. We will never ever have recession here and Singapore property prices and economy will forever go up up and away!
One cock talking cork here!

Eastman
28-04-08, 18:09
In singapore there are certain check and balance such as developers need licence to develop a property, having saperate account to receive payment and so on...but on wheather price are heading north or south its another story for another thread...

condoinvestor
29-04-08, 15:28
Hi anyone knows when is this project launching and at how much psf?

Perfume
29-04-08, 16:23
Hi anyone knows when is this project launching and at how much psf?

I called the agent on the banner at the showflat. The agent quoted averagely $1700 psf.

Eastman
29-04-08, 16:33
...where is the actual location in D15...thanks

Tony Blair
29-04-08, 17:01
Corner of Marine Parade Road and Joo Chiat Road.Opp old Republic cinema.

Eastman
30-04-08, 13:17
Corner of Marine Parade Road and Joo Chiat Road.Opp old Republic cinema.
Thanks 4 the info...I guess the address will be Joo Chiat Road than...thats correct?

Tony Blair
30-04-08, 13:30
This condo address will be Joo Chiat Road.Ppl speculating MRT will be at the present NTUC fairprice supermart.I think it is just opposite this condo.

bigcan
30-04-08, 14:28
Keep us updated immediately you have prelaunch preview date. $1700 psf is high. Thank you.

buy
30-04-08, 15:00
opposite republic

Unregistered2
30-04-08, 15:23
a lot of indons and koreans waiting to buy this project

Unregistereds
30-04-08, 15:24
We' re back.Hasta lavista.

Eastman
01-05-08, 13:29
This condo address will be Joo Chiat Road.Ppl speculating MRT will be at the present NTUC fairprice supermart.I think it is just opposite this condo.

...if MRT is going to be there how are they going to put a station ...an underground station? ...perhaps...

Unregistered ver.1.1
01-05-08, 17:09
They torn down Bedok cinema.They can also tear down the old Republic cinema opposite Parc Seabreeeze.Has been unoccupied for a long time.

Unregistered3
01-05-08, 18:01
We saw some property agents at the site today. The launch will be very soon according to the agents. This project will be closed watch by property market stakeholders and players.

condoinvestor
01-05-08, 20:35
I called the agent on the banner at the showflat. The agent quoted averagely $1700 psf.

Average of 1700 psf means high floors going for close to 2000 psf, Tiong Aik must have to come out with something of superior quality to demand such prices....

registered
01-05-08, 20:39
Heard that its going to be around 1500psf.... which is high

Projects in sub sales along Amber Rd are only around 1K (the Esta) to
1300psf (SeaView / One Amber). Further along Meyer Rd - prices are around
1500psf range for Sea Front and Aalto.

Furthermore the plot of land for P.SB is small.

boutique projects
05-05-08, 10:52
Why bother with boutique projects? Boutique projects are easy to buy, very difficult to sell. Boutique projects are in abundunce and never in demand from foreigners.

your head ah
05-05-08, 10:56
Want to bet?!?!?!?!?!

Boutique projects like Newton Suites, 2RVG, The Pier? 33 Robin?

Not easy to sell? Foreigners don't want? Price crash?

It is not just the project, but also the design, architect, and location!

mr funny
09-05-08, 04:27
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/news/story/0,4574,278417,00.html?

Published May 9, 2008

Developers test waters with condo launches

Sale of Floridian, Quartet on Vanda and Parc Seabreeze have begun

By KALPANA RASHIWALA


DEVELOPERS are gingerly testing the water for residential launches this week. Far East Organization's listed unit Orchard Parade Holdings and Wing Tai have begun the official launch of their Floridian condo in Bukit Timah, marked by the start of an advertising campaign.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2008-05-09/BT_IMAGES_KRFAR9.jpg
Resort living: The Floridian is inspired by the Miami coast and will be surrounded by water features

Prices start at $1,615 psf. BT understands the average net price is in the range of $1,600 to $1,700 psf after discounts.

The freehold project has 336 units in 11 towers on a site of 230,000 sq ft. The preview for the development began a few months ago, with six units sold at $1,640 to $1,770 psf.

This week's official launch sees the release of 75 units in Towers 2 and 9. Units range from two-bedders of 840 sq ft to apartments with four bedrooms (plus study) of 2,373 sq ft. Floridian, designed by DP Architects, is inspired by the Miami coast and will be surrounded by water features. Ground-floor units will have the water's edge outside their living and dining spaces. The project is near Hwa Chong Institution, Methodist Girls' School, Nanyang Girls' High School, Raffles Girls' Primary School and the Canadian International School.

Another freehold project being previewed this week is Quartet on Vanda, a cluster development of four bungalows in Vanda Crescent off Dunearn Road (near Eng Neo Avenue). Each two-storey unit has an attic, a basement and a swimming pool.

Built-up areas range from 4,844 sq ft to 4,919 sq ft. The units are understood to be priced around $6 million each. Quartet on Vanda is being developed by Stanley Quek's Region Development.

Over in the eastern part of Singapore, Tiong Aik is understood to have begun the preview of Parc Seabreeze in the Marine Parade/Joo Chiat area last week. The average price for the freehold project is understood to be in the $1,600-1,700 psf range.

Unregistered......
09-05-08, 08:51
waoh so cheap only 1600 to 1700psf?

registered
09-05-08, 15:01
BUY HIGH .... later sure CRY

cry until no tears left

UnregĄstered
09-05-08, 15:16
BUY HIGH .... later sure CRY

cry until no tears left
Agree.
That's why this one can buy cos' it ain't high.

Unregistered2
09-05-08, 15:32
Agree.
That's why this one can buy cos' it ain't high.

well let's see how many people do actually buy this development at this price. to me .. it's over priced! there is no point paying so much money when you live so close to HDB flats and at 1700psf, you can probably get some units at the SAIL.

condoinvestor
09-05-08, 15:41
If you guys think this is overpriced what about Silversea......

Think
09-05-08, 16:41
If you take a look at old newspaper reports of 2006 when developer bought this land thru enbloc deal, it was quoted that new condo units will be sold at average $950 psf (at the very most $1K psf.)

So just think - why now 1700psf - just because IR and F1 ????

If economic climate goes back to "sars level" then sure this property will command below 1K psf.

Think and think hard.

SS
09-05-08, 16:49
If you guys think this is overpriced what about Silversea......


Very simple if u have budget of upto 1800psf - u have many choices in Meyer Rd.

Eg at SS, 4 bedroom 2500sqft X 1700psf = 4.25m

At The Sovereign Meyer rd, 4bedroom 2600sqft at 3.4m to 3.6m
Freehold and prestigious address

The euphoria of early 2007 to third qtr 2007 of rushing to pick up any property seems to be over. Buyers now question and compare.

Unregistered......
09-05-08, 17:35
what abt aalto last done 2900+psf. look at ura records

URA
09-05-08, 19:04
Private Residential Property Transactions with Caveats Lodged

Project Name . Price ............. Floor Area . Price ........ Date Of Option
Aalto ................ $16,275,000 . 5,608sqft ... $2,902psf . Mar 08
Aalto ................ $4,577,000 ... 1,959sqft ... $2,336psf . Feb 08
Aalto ................ $3,142,300 ... 1,442sqft ... $2,179psf . Dec 07
Aalto ................ $3,659,800 ... 2,024sqft ... $1,809psf . Dec 07
Aalto ................ $4,270,300 ... 2,024sqft ... $2,110psf . Dec 07
Aalto ................ $6,269,100 ... 2,443sqft ... $2,565psf . Dec 07
.........
.........

URA
09-05-08, 19:34
Private Residential Property Transactions with Caveats Lodged

Project Name . Price ............. Floor Area . Price PSF..... Date Of Option


AMBER RESIDENCES 3,688,000 2,217 1,663 Jan-08
AMBER RESIDENCES 2,548,000 1,798 1,417 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 1,886,181 1,163 1,623 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 1,708,447 1,163 1,470 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 1,634,492 1,163 1,406 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 3,980,000 2,217 1,795 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 2,731,271 1,518 1,800 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 2,524,677 1,798 1,404 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 2,058,034 1,518 1,356 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 2,502,242 1,798 1,392 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 4,498,684 2,217 2,029 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 2,161,239 1,518 1,424 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 2,246,640 1,518 1,480 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 2,245,187 1,798 1,249 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 2,661,040 1,798 1,480 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 1,723,101 1,249 1,380 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 3,365,989 2,217 1,518 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 2,153,650 1,518 1,419 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 1,960,000 1,163 1,686 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 2,566,956 1,798 1,428 Dec-07
AMBER RESIDENCES 1,497,315 1,163 1,288 Dec-07

buy
09-05-08, 19:49
prices still up

good leh

registered
09-05-08, 20:36
what abt aalto last done 2900+psf. look at ura records

that is a luxury super penthouse

Unregistered2
10-05-08, 10:28
prices still up

good leh

very misleading ... the developer may still hold the price but the demand is not there ... Amber Residences only had 1 unit sold since January and AALTO had two. So when u have not much demand but ample supply, it implies a slowdown which might lead to lowering of prices ... a worrying trend.

let's hope the prices are sustainable ...

Hot Breeze
10-05-08, 10:57
very misleading ... the developer may still hold the price but the demand is not there ... Amber Residences only had 1 unit sold since January and AALTO had two. So when u have not much demand but ample supply, it implies a slowdown which might lead to lowering of prices ... a worrying trend.

let's hope the prices are sustainable ...

Prices have to fall. Simple law of economics. No demand - price has to fall. Banks/Developers wont wait for speculators to sell to sell their units and pay back. When the knock comes, they have to DUMP.

condoinvestor
10-05-08, 11:10
Sustainability is the right word, off to see Parc Seabreeze showflat today, just to satisfy my curiosity, will post again later

URA
10-05-08, 12:54
Prices have to fall. Simple law of economics. No demand - price has to fall. Banks/Developers wont wait for speculators to sell to sell their units and pay back. When the knock comes, they have to DUMP.


Please la...is not no demand..is almost sold out !!!

Amber Residences only have less than 5 units for sales.

AALTO is 70% sold. Only left the lower floor units..

Unregistered.
10-05-08, 13:45
Is the Parc Seabreeze showflat already open to the public?
Thanks

UnregĄstered
10-05-08, 14:06
very misleading ... the developer may still hold the price but the demand is not there ... Amber Residences only had 1 unit sold since January and AALTO had two. So when u have not much demand but ample supply, it implies a slowdown which might lead to lowering of prices ... a worrying trend.

let's hope the prices are sustainable ...

Prices have to fall. Simple law of economics. No demand - price has to fall. Banks/Developers wont wait for speculators to sell to sell their units and pay back. When the knock comes, they have to DUMP.

Please la...is not no demand..is almost sold out !!!

Amber Residences only have less than 5 units for sales.

AALTO is 70% sold. Only left the lower floor units..
Hello! You are not supposed to expose his con job.

condoinvestor
10-05-08, 14:19
Is the Parc Seabreeze showflat already open to the public?
Thanks
Yes my friend, just back from there, I must say good units are going fast, there will be a sky terrace on the 14th floor, the whole floor, which is nice, however the lifts open up to 6 units in a common lobby(which I did not like)
Lots of prose and cons, I thought stacks 2 and 3 were the best, all stack 2 on floors above the sky terrace were snapped up by the time I left, showflat was very busy.
Cheers.

watprice
10-05-08, 19:47
Tats nice to know, So how much is the asking price for good and bad units? Share here lei...dun want to waste a trip down. Thanks

condoinvestor
11-05-08, 10:24
Not too sure abt the lower floors but units above the 15th which had a seaview were commanding abt 1730 psf and up.......

Unregister2.0
11-05-08, 18:11
There's a investor is negotiating about 18 units of this project? How true is it?

DRSG
11-05-08, 18:46
Agents are busy today.I believe all good units (above sky terrace)all gone.Bad times sales.

SGRD
11-05-08, 20:24
I dont think so - prices are on the high side at almost 1780psf for 15th floor units and those around 10th flr at 1600psf.

Most of the visitors coming out of showflat were commenting on the rather high psf.

pricedout
12-05-08, 11:04
agree, overheard alot comments about the high asking price as well and the bed rooms are really small . If you consider the glass floor to ceiling sliding windows in the bedrm area, you probably can only place supertwin-sized beds in the smaller bedrooms. As for the sea view, well i think at best you will get pockets of sea view and probably only above 17 floors imho.

Tony Blair
12-05-08, 11:24
Got money just buy lah.Dont think so much.

registered
12-05-08, 19:58
The rich THINK carefully so thats why there are RICH.

Only fools rush in - u must have heard of that saying.

One Of The 20%
12-05-08, 23:13
The rich THINK carefully so thats why there are RICH.

Only fools rush in - u must have heard of that saying.
So are you one of the rich, who is quietly buying now?
Or are you one of the fool, who will be rushing in much later?

lbb
13-05-08, 23:53
That's rather on the high side, considering the location of the project.
You can't really claim it's on a private enclave such as Meyer, considering that it is situated quite near public housing.

Sustaining this price would be tough as well, dangerous really.
Wonder how many people would buy as an 'investment' at this price?

BUT if you have the money and you can't find much things to do with it... then by all means (:

condoinvestor
17-05-08, 09:59
Does anyone have info on how this project is selling so far?

Unregistered12
17-05-08, 18:29
Aristo@Amber begins its soft launch today at $1550 psf onward. Will provide buyers with some choice of small units.

URA
18-05-08, 15:50
Does anyone have info on how this project is selling so far?

My agent told me about 30+ units sold already.

condoinvestor
18-05-08, 17:19
I must say the take up is quite healthy, thanks

Unregistered2
19-05-08, 13:46
we drove pass last Saturday intending to take a look at the development but it was closed. any idea when it'll be open again?

Easty
19-05-08, 14:50
I called the agent at the number indicated on the showroom and he told me it will reopen in about 1 month. He wasn't really sure either. What is going on??

Meanwhile, I viewed "The Aristo" showroom at Amber Road. Prices for good sea facing units is psf $1,700+.

I wonder why commanding such a high premium over neighbouring condos (+50%)??

UnregisteredA
19-05-08, 14:59
There could be a MRT station nearby. Or the developer is pricing it ahead of the soon to be announced Master Plan 2008.

Unregistered19
19-05-08, 15:09
Master Plan 2008 will be unveiled this Friday 23 May 2008.

condoinvestor
19-05-08, 16:55
MP 2008 Interesting times are here again, if the MRT comes up at Republic Cinema as speculated, Parc Seabreeze prices will suddenly look attractive!

mtr
19-05-08, 17:34
MRT expected in 2018 - thats 10 yrs away and in this span of time, economy is sure to go thru the high n low cycles - cant expect prices to keep going higher all the way - right ?

confused
20-05-08, 08:29
My agent told me about 30+ units sold already.


strange,
another agent apparently said only 3 units sold so far
and all to internal parties ...
thats what i heard, anybody can verify?

Unregistered.....
20-05-08, 09:47
Pick up a copy of this weeks the edge. There is a full page article in the city and country section about properties in the east. It also list the various properties for sale and how many units are sold. The number of units sold for parc seabreeze is 30 as of 16th of May 2008.

withdrawn
08-06-08, 22:54
strange,
another agent apparently said only 3 units sold so far
and all to internal parties ...
thats what i heard, anybody can verify?

Heard project has been withdrawn!!!! True????

Waiting
01-09-08, 16:31
I think the prices are starting to come down. Just look at the Seaview. Still many units empty. People who buy at this time is paying way too much.

Waiting long long
02-09-08, 19:55
I think the prices are starting to come down. Just look at the Seaview. Still many units empty. People who buy at this time is paying way too much.

You better wait long long don't buy now. Till Sea View En-block lor...

richardsng_era
10-10-08, 12:53
Price avg. S$1400psf. Preview by appointment only. Call now.

Siao
10-10-08, 13:05
Price avg. S$1400psf. Preview by appointment only. Call now.
Siao, recession period still got people to buy meh? Somemore so expensive....

condoinvestor
10-10-08, 13:08
Tiong Aik should either defer the re launch or give abt 50% discount, even at 700 psf average it will be a task to sell the project.....

tigersee
10-10-08, 13:32
Pick up a copy of this weeks the edge. There is a full page article in the city and country section about properties in the east. It also list the various properties for sale and how many units are sold. The number of units sold for parc seabreeze is 30 as of 16th of May 2008.
Wah, tiong Aik ask all relatives plus parents to buy 30 units.

UnregĄstered
10-10-08, 13:40
Siao, recession period still got people to buy meh? Somemore so expensive....
I am on your side but you need to be technically correct when you post.

Singapore government forecasted Singapore in Technical Recession for Q3 2008 based on July and August figures. We will know the September results by the end of October.

Economists forecast lower GDP Growths for the next 2-3 years. They did not forecast Recession.

News
10-10-08, 13:40
I am on your side but you need to be technically correct when you post.

Singapore government forecasted Singapore in Technical Recession for Q3 2008 based on July and August figures. We will know the September results by the end of October.

Economists forecast lower GDP Growths for the next 2-3 years. They did not forecast Recession.
Just f.y.i..

The last "technical recession" occurred in 2002.

The last "recession" occurred in 2001 when the GDP growth was -2.4%.

find sales
12-10-08, 11:25
Wah, tiong Aik ask all relatives plus parents to buy 30 units.
To all agents in this website, "Which is almost everyone in this website" Go out and close sales. Don't waste time in the showrooms until go crazy and post rubbish in this site.

Busybody
14-10-08, 10:12
Hi, any one there can advise the special of this project set @1400psqf. I am still wondering... compare with the near by project price...what make people to buy at 1400...

buy
14-10-08, 13:57
Hi, any one there can advise the special of this project set @1400psqf. I am still wondering... compare with the near by project price...what make people to buy at 1400...

I also wondering what make people pay 6 digit to a million for an

old watch...

U want to know why?

Go and flip open tatler or magazine and u will know why

UnregĄstered
15-10-08, 12:21
I also wondering what make people pay 6 digit to a million for an

old watch...

U want to know why?

Go and flip open tatler or magazine and u will know why
You talk like this Car Fan leh.

Looking for a fullsize 5.00m-long 4-door coupé (call it a sedan if you still insist) to ferry 4 in comfort?

So sorry! Your Ģ200,000 deposit came in a bit late for this 700hp One-77 with a 7.3 V12.
77 cars will be produced but 100 people are already ahead of you.

The car has not been officially launched and no details (including pictures) are available.
Buyers are only allowed to see a wheel and a headlight.

See what? No need to see. No need to know. Just give us your cheque.

Aston Martin One-77 already sold out and then some
Chris Shunk
autoblog
Tuesday, 14 October 2008, 4:59PM U.S. EST

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/10/01_aston_one-77_paris_opt.jpg
Aston Martin One-77

If you're looking to be one of the lucky (and rich) buyers of the Aston Martin One-77, you may already be too late. Aston claims that over 100 wealthy buyers have signed up for the One-77 supercar, though it plans to build only enough to satisfy the car's label: 77. Amazingly, those customers have dropped a Ģ200,000 deposit without ever having so much as seen a totally uncovered photo of the British supercar. But hey, it's an Aston, so how ugly can it be? If you've got money to burn, we can think of few ways to better spend over Ģ1 million on an automobile, especially considering that it's rare enough to actually increase in value over time. It would help, too, if you could park and store a vehicle with a carbon fiber chassis, aluminum body, and 700-hp V12 engine, but that doesn't sound like much fun at all. From what we've seen of the car so far, it wouldn't be fair to force the museum life on the One-77.

K-Cat
16-10-08, 12:10
Tiong Aik should either defer the re launch or give abt 50% discount, even at 700 psf average it will be a task to sell the project.....
Buy at $700psf?
Aiyah! Wasted!

I just sold one unit at Livia for $702psf last month.
Never mind. I will find you another $700psf unit.
It will be done.

Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of September 2008

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Livia ................. OCR ....... 9 ............................... 702 ................ 677 ............... 646

UnregĄstered
16-10-08, 12:17
Tiong Aik should either defer the re launch or give abt 50% discount, even at 700 psf average it will be a task to sell the project.....

Buy at $700psf?
Aiyah! Wasted!

I just sold one unit at Livia for $702psf last month.
Never mind. I will find you another $700psf unit.
It will be done.

Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of September 2008

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Livia ................. OCR ....... 9 ............................... 702 ................ 677 ............... 646
Are you guys sick or what?
D15 selling at Pasir Ris price?

You must be joking!
People in D7 are laughing at you with their $1,871psf.

Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of September 2008

Project Name ...... Locality . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Concourse Skyline . RCR ........ 68 ............................. 1,871 ............ 1,592 ............ 1,272

Wah lau erh!
Seow liao ah!
$1,871psf.

RegĄstered
16-10-08, 14:52
Wah! D7 beats D15.

buy
16-10-08, 22:26
somtime people buy for certain reasons one

Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 13:18
When is the launch? Any idea?

buy
10-11-08, 16:10
private preview now

only

Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 16:13
private preview now

only

How much? Worth to buy? Btw why they hold back the launch but can have special private preview? What 's the point of doing so?

Pvt Preview
10-11-08, 16:31
Private preview is for Developers to gauge the buying interest and pricing level. And usually private preview, those invited should have more interest to buy than those who just walk in to look-look see-see kill-time-coz-I got-nothing-better-to-do.

Most developers now adopt a "Private Preview" unless they are really confident of moving the units. Eg, Concourse Skyline.


How much? Worth to buy? Btw why they hold back the launch but can have special private preview? What 's the point of doing so?

Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 16:35
Private preview is for Developers to gauge the buying interest and pricing level. And usually private preview, those invited should have more interest to buy than those who just walk in to look-look see-see kill-time-coz-I got-nothing-better-to-do.

Most developers now adopt a "Private Preview" unless they are really confident of moving the units. Eg, Concourse Skyline.


So if after the private preview if the condo is not selling well will they reduced price? Like SS? Will they reduced price cause I believe it's not selling well. Sorry, just kapo. Can't take up 1 more property now.

Pvt Preview
10-11-08, 16:59
If still cannot sell, then continue with "private Preview". The price reduction will not be publicised. The Developer may sweeten the deal with absorbtion of stamp duty and interest for "delayed payment" till T.O.P.

The developers must keep the psf high for show on URA's website. Often, the developers will try their best to keep the psf as high as possible. Buyers are often rather gullible coz real transaction prices are lacking.


So if after the private preview if the condo is not selling well will they reduced price? Like SS? Will they reduced price cause I believe it's not selling well. Sorry, just kapo. Can't take up 1 more property now.

Esta_Owner
10-11-08, 17:01
If still cannot sell, then continue with "private Preview". The price reduction will not be publicised. The Developer may sweeten the deal with absorbtion of stamp duty and interest for "delayed payment" till T.O.P.

The developers must keep the psf high for show on URA's website. Often, the developers will try their best to keep the psf as high as possible. Buyers are often rather gullible coz real transaction prices are lacking.


I see. Thanks for the infor

registered
10-11-08, 20:50
How much is the psf for Parc Sea Breeze now - if its good can consider to
go for preview.....

UnregĄstered
10-11-08, 21:48
How much is the psf for Parc Sea Breeze now - if its good can consider to
go for preview.....
Launching meh?

roger168
11-11-08, 14:27
http://sg.redad.com/cl_upload/1008/08105614425.jpg

Parc SeaBreeze is Launched for Private Preview now.

Showflat opens from 10am to 6pm on Sat and Sun. Weekdays to be advised.

FreeHold - 94 units
20 Storeys
Opposite Marine Parade Central and Parkway Shopping Mall
Some units with Sea View
Facilities :-
40m Swimming Pool
Socials Pools at 14th Storey (Sky Terrace)
BBQ
Gym
Spa pool
Children pool
Playground


3 Bedrooms - 1292/1356/1378 sqft
4 Bedrooms - 1593/1615 sqft

Price range 3 bedrooms - $1,7m to $2.05m
Price range 4 bedrooms - $2,2m to $2,4m


Roger Tan - 9061-9884 (Showflat Marketing Agent)

andrewtan07
28-11-08, 10:44
Just dropped by to view the showrooms.

BIG Balcony and all rooms have balcony (pretty useless for kids actually) but OK for smoker like me. Rooms are PATHETICALLY SMALL.. trust me. You will puke blood because a single bed will take up 60-70% of the room already.

Lastly, I pop the question to the agent who served me:

"So how's the response of the project?"

His reply... "Oh.. we just launched for 2 weeks... till now, NONE SOLD YET."

So I think you guys get it , right?

Even Developer now throw back the pricing to customers...they ask customer to offer a price and they consider...

East Lover
28-11-08, 13:28
Just dropped by to view the showrooms.

BIG Balcony and all rooms have balcony (pretty useless for kids actually) but OK for smoker like me. Rooms are PATHETICALLY SMALL.. trust me. You will puke blood because a single bed will take up 60-70% of the room already.

Lastly, I pop the question to the agent who served me:

"So how's the response of the project?"

His reply... "Oh.. we just launched for 2 weeks... till now, NONE SOLD YET."

So I think you guys get it , right?

Even Developer now throw back the pricing to customers...they ask customer to offer a price and they consider...

Then you better see this one - THE ARISTO @ AMBER. Almost half of the floor area goes to BIG Balcony and BIG planter, and worse, bay window EVERYWHERE!!!

http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=40729&postcount=19

East Coast Boy
10-06-09, 10:05
Just receive SMS form DTZ agent inform me that re-launch the project next week. Price start form $1,250psf to $1,350psf.

Interested to see how they push the price up at current markets.

Property_Owner
10-06-09, 11:16
Just receive SMS form DTZ agent inform me that re-launch the project next week. Price start form $1,250psf to $1,350psf.

Interested to see how they push the price up at current markets.

If they can sell do another sold out then seaview owners all smiling:)

cheerful
10-06-09, 12:00
Is it supposed to be this kinda price range for D15? Or is this juz list-price :confused:

condoinvestor
12-06-09, 00:30
Just receive SMS form DTZ agent inform me that re-launch the project next week. Price start form $1,250psf to $1,350psf.

Interested to see how they push the price up at current markets.

Still overpriced

condoinvestor
12-06-09, 00:33
If they can sell do another sold out then seaview owners all smiling:)

IF...
I personally do not think they will pull it off, esp not at those prices, as mentioned earlier, still overpriced

roger168
16-06-09, 10:12
Parc SeaBreeze @ a place where you discover Luxury living, Ample Convenience and Prestigious Lifestyle
===
Superb location with superb investment potential
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FreeHold
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Opposite Marine Parade Central
Very near to Parkway Parade Shopping Mall
Near all amenities and local transport
Easy access to famous food joints and various eateries @ Joo Chiat/East Coast road
Easy access to ECP
Near Marine Parade Library
Near to East Coast Park
Easy access to Airport
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Great home for families
Great investment for rental income
Good capital gain potential
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3bdrms-1292/1356/1378sf
4bdrms-1593/1615sf
Penthse-2562/3035sf
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Facilities @ Gnd Floor
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Lap pool
BBQ Area
Spa pool
Palm Court
Children's pool
Aqua Gym
Social Pool
Play Area
Water Feature
Dining Pavilion
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Facilities @ Sky Terrace 14th Floor with view of the Sea and City
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3 X Spa pools
Dining Area
Kitchenette
Lounge Area
Gym
Multi-purpose Deck
Sauna/Steam room
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Price range $1050psf to $1400psf
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For all home stayed and investors. Kindly contact me @ 9061-9884
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Re-Preview with attractive new price.......on 19th June 2009
===
Roger Tan
9061-9884

roger168
16-06-09, 10:33
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/GdDay/SeaBreeze.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/GdDay/SeaBreezeMap.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/GdDay/SB-14flrskyterr.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/GdDay/SeaBreeze-Siteplan.jpg

Preview soon this weekend. Call to reserve units now...

Roger Tan -9061-9884

East Coast Boy
17-06-09, 22:51
I have got the info from HSR agent. The price are as follows:

2nd to 13th floor
Stack 1 $1210 to 1410 psf 1593/1615sq ft
Stack 2 $1250 to 1450psf 1356/1378sq ft
Stack 3 $1180 to 1370psf 1356/1378 sq ft
Stack 4 $1170 to 1350psf 1593/1615 sq ft

5th to 13th floor
Stack 5 $1020 to 1100 psf 1292 sq ft
Stack 6 $1050 to 1160psf 1292 sq ft

15th to 18th floor
Stack 1 $1450 to 1510psf 1593/1615 sq ft
Stack 2 $1490 to 1550psf 1356/1378 sq ft
Stack 3 $1390 to 1450psf 1356/1378 sq ft
Stack 4 $1370 to 1430psf 1593/1615 sq ft

Penthouse 19th floor
Stack 1 $1530psf 3035 q ft
Stack 3 $1470psf 3035 sq ft
Stack 5 $1215psf 2562 sq ft
Stack 6 $1245psf $2562 sq ft

Please add 3% if client going for interest absorption option.
Due to overwhelming response, to have the above pricing please have it confirmed by latest today.
After which the price will be revised.

roger168
20-06-09, 08:49
Price to be reconfirmed on the spot.

As the prices has risen by developer late last night.

More than 30 units taken in a single preview day.

East Coast Boy
20-06-09, 13:08
Price to be reconfirmed on the spot.

As the prices has risen by developer late last night.

More than 30 units taken in a single preview day.


Developer pricing are almost same as D10 pricing!

Can they sell ? Where are the buyer form ? Local or Oversea ?

Would like to know how the agents con those buyer to pay for this pricing in D15.

roger168
20-06-09, 14:37
I am not sure about the profiles of buyers since i am not handling the paperworks except the appointed developer's staff

From their outlook, most of them do look local to me. Some of them bought 2 units one go.

I am sure they feel positive about the current situation that's why.

Alexis
20-06-09, 15:01
I'm one of them. But I'll flip if prices overshoot my target.


I am not sure about the profiles of buyers since i am not handling the paperworks except the appointed developer's staff

From their outlook, most of them do look local to me. Some of them bought 2 units one go.

I am sure they feel positive about the current situation that's why.

East Coast Boy
20-06-09, 15:14
I'm one of them. But I'll flip if prices overshoot my target.

May I Know how much you pay per PSF ? Which floor ?

The Reason of you buying this project ? What so good about this project ?

View@Mayer is selling @ $1,300psf only.

Alexis
20-06-09, 17:43
May I Know how much you pay per PSF ? Which floor ?

The Reason of you buying this project ? What so good about this project ?

View@Mayer is selling @ $1,300psf only.
Weren't you promoting this development? You should know as much as I do.

East Coast Boy
20-06-09, 17:53
Weren't you promoting this development? You should know as much as I do.

I don't see the value of this project. Paying $1,300psf can get D10 project.

How to flip @ $1,300psf ? With the living rm & bed room all so small.

One and only good point is localtion.

That why I will like to learn form you what so good about this project
?

Property_Owner
20-06-09, 20:55
I don't see the value of this project. Paying $1,300psf can get D10 project.

How to flip @ $1,300psf ? With the living rm & bed room all so small.

One and only good point is localtion.

That why I will like to learn form you what so good about this project
?

wa lan. Dude, better dun let firec see your post.

wqmai
21-06-09, 00:58
I don't see the value of this project. Paying $1,300psf can get D10 project.

How to flip @ $1,300psf ? With the living rm & bed room all so small.

One and only good point is localtion.

That why I will like to learn form you what so good about this project
?

I also wondering if $1,300 psf is too high although location is quite good, just opp parkway parade.
To flip is not impossible as long as the bubble is build up.

Alexis
21-06-09, 07:53
I also wondering if $1,300 psf is too high although location is quite good, just opp parkway parade.
To flip is not impossible as long as the bubble is build up.
Yes, as long as I can find someone to pay more I'm fine. The market now is sentiment driven and I have no intention to hold the units I bought recently.

ECB, you sounded like an expert investor in all your posts, many of which are jeering at people. Thought you are really lao jiao.

condoinvestor
23-06-09, 12:26
just read more than 50 % sold, congrats to Tiong Aik

mr funny
23-06-09, 12:46
http://www.straitstimes.com/Money/Story/STIStory_394025.html

June 23, 2009 Tuesday

Buyers throng showflats

Frasers Centrepoint sells 302 out of 330 units at Woodleigh Close in 3 days

By Joyce Teo, Property Correspondent


BUYERS continued to throng showflats over the weekend as the craze to pick up a new home shows no signs of abating.

Within three days of its Friday launch, Frasers Centrepoint managed to sell 302 out of 330 units at its 99-year leasehold Woodleigh Close project 8@Woodleigh. The average transacted price of the mass-market project was $790 per sq ft.

The buyers' profile was overwhelmingly Singaporean - just 3 per cent were foreigners and permanent residents, said Frasers Centrepoint chief executive Lim Ee Seng.

He said the strong response took him by surprise, though he was quick to add that 8@Woodleigh had help from the improving market sentiment and strong project-specific attributes.

Apart from location - near Potong Pasir MRT station and the yet-to-open Woodleigh MRT station on the North-East Line - a major attraction was the small, affordable units, he said.

The developer had earlier tweaked the mix of bigger and smaller flats from a ratio of 60:40 to 40:60, which added an extra 30 units to the development. It also reduced the size of the larger units slightly.

About 60 per cent of the units were one- and two-bedders. Although the 400 sq ft one-bedders cost a seemingly high $930 psf to $1,070 psf, the absolute price worked out to a more appetising $370,000 to $440,000.

Buyers could be drawn to a 'speculative element', said Mr Lim, as 8@Woodleigh is next to the Stamford American International School and some buyers are hoping to rent out units to expatriate families.

Half of the buyers have HDB addresses. About a third of them are aged 30 to 39, another one-third aged 40 to 49, with 22 per cent in their 50s.

The response has been so positive that Frasers Centrepoint, which sold 50 units at a Friday special preview, will dispense with an originally planned main launch this coming weekend as under 30 - mostly three-bedders - are left.

'We will release everything to capitalise on the momentum,' said Mr Lim.

Another project, Parc Seabreeze in Marine Parade, also saw demand after it apparently brought forward its launch. It sold about 50 units over three days since Friday at prices ranging from $1,050 psf to $1,550 psf, said agents.

The price is down from $1,600 psf to $1,700 psf quoted at the preview in May last year, which drew a lacklustre response then.

Even as mass-market projects did well, the upper-mid market also appears to be flourishing.

Investors have been flocking to the 152-unit One Devonshire in the Killiney Road area, with 130 units sold so far at an average price of $1,800 psf since a special preview over a week ago.

The recession-defying market exuberance has led some analysts to question its sustainability.

HSR Property Group executive director Eric Cheng said the buying interest stems from those afraid to lose out. Some people also made money in the stock market, while HDB valuations have been rising, boosting confidence in the market, he said.

But 'it's still a buyers' market', said Mr Lim. Though there is demand, buyers are selective.

With more competition amid the financial crisis, developers have taken to working with more property agencies to market their projects.

Instead of just one as was the norm during the 2007 boom, they now work with two or three agencies to ensure a wider reach, said Mr Cheng.

Mr Lim said the company did a pre-marketing test or survey about three months before the launch of its Jurong project Caspian. The wider the reach, the greater the chance of success in getting buyers hooked.

And that is what Hong Leong Holdings hopes to achieve by launching a page on social networking site Facebook to market its 329-unit The Gale in Upper Changi. It said this will enable them to disseminate information to Web-savvy property watchers and to engage with a wider audience.

[email protected]

HOT PROPERTY BUYS

8@Woodleigh : 302 out of 330 units at the 99-year leasehold project sold since Friday. The average transacted price was $790 per sq ft.

Parc Seabreeze: Sold about 50 units over three days since Friday at prices ranging from $1,050 psf to $1,550 psf, said agents, down from $1,600 psf to $1,700 psf.

One Devonshire: 130 units out of 152 sold at an average price of $1,800 psf since a special preview over a week ago.

sealover
23-08-09, 17:25
latest news: 80% sold, left mostly low floors and 4 rm units partially blocked by Marine Point next door. I am surprised that 2 Penthhouses facing Katong are sold at S$3.1+ M each. Many Indonesian buyers... May be can see Batam from high floor leh .. Now all fingers cross awaiting the launch of The Shore ( formerly Rose Garden ) to adjustify those who bought this one...

Miow
24-08-09, 10:28
latest news: 80% sold, left mostly low floors and 4 rm units partially blocked by Marine Point next door. I am surprised that 2 Penthhouses facing Katong are sold at S$3.1+ M each. Many Indonesian buyers... May be can see Batam from high floor leh .. Now all fingers cross awaiting the launch of The Shore ( formerly Rose Garden ) to adjustify those who bought this one...


Any idea on the pricing for The Shore? And what are the various sizes?

sealover
27-08-09, 12:20
Any idea on the pricing for The Shore? And what are the various sizes?

Hi Miow,

Passing by yesterday saw the showroom is under construction. So far no news on price but I got news from agents launching soon one 18 storey condo next to paramount hotel consist of shop at 1st/2nd fl and the rest all 2rms and 4 3rms penthse. price ave 1300 psf which is comparable to Pars Seabreeze but the latter is better located.

Reporter
16-11-09, 13:35
Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of October 2009

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Parc Seabreeze .. RCR ........ 68 ............................ 1 ................................ 1,210 ............ 1,210 ............. 1,210
Only 1 buyer?

sealover
17-11-09, 21:28
Only 1 buyer?

Understand from agent that all other units sold out except the 4 room units with window closely facing directly the neighbouring condo. No one will want to pay S$2 Mil++ with such facing. It is the poor planning by the developer/architect, they should convert these 4 rm units to 2 rm units for budget buyers. With more than 70% sold, developer can hold these units until the neighbouring condo is en-bloc ( some agent is working on it ). I still think this property is worth investing as the price will shoot up once MRT station right in front of it is confirmed.

Laguna
18-11-09, 12:46
first, this is a Joo Chiat address,
second : non-stop traffic
third : look up all HDB
forth : too small land
fifth : swimming next to a big traffic junction...

pod
23-11-09, 00:03
Understand from agent that all other units sold out except the 4 room units with window closely facing directly the neighbouring condo. No one will want to pay S$2 Mil++ with such facing. It is the poor planning by the developer/architect, they should convert these 4 rm units to 2 rm units for budget buyers. With more than 70% sold, developer can hold these units until the neighbouring condo is en-bloc ( some agent is working on it ). I still think this property is worth investing as the price will shoot up once MRT station right in front of it is confirmed.

Hi,

Jus curious, is there any news that the MRT is in front of this site?

regards

nochoice
23-11-09, 14:28
Hi,

Jus curious, is there any news that the MRT is in front of this site?

regards

no, nothing is confirm.

sealover
23-11-09, 22:34
no, nothing is confirm.

Why some people can get richer with same amount of money than others because they did their home works and bought before the news such as shares, condo before en-bloc or before new MRT station is confirmed. It is not difficult to predict the location of new MRT stations if you have done enough research on many information already surfaced ...........

eng81157
24-11-09, 07:48
Why some people can get richer with same amount of money than others because they did their home works and bought before the news such as shares, condo before en-bloc or before new MRT station is confirmed. It is not difficult to predict the location of new MRT stations if you have done enough research on many information already surfaced ...........


just curious, based on your research done, where would the new station be possibly located then?

Tony Blair
24-11-09, 08:00
Old Republic theather.

sealover
24-11-09, 09:35
Old Republic theather.

Yes, should be below and between Old Republic to Parkway Parade.
The question is how soon this line will be brought forward from 2020 as they did for other lines. May be we will find out during the next election.......

eng81157
24-11-09, 12:13
Yes, should be below and between Old Republic to Parkway Parade.
The question is how soon this line will be brought forward from 2020 as they did for other lines. May be we will find out during the next election.......

so, does this mean the buyers of parc seabreeze hit the jackpot? any units left?

xebay11
24-11-09, 12:37
Yes, should be below and between Old Republic to Parkway Parade.

Much speculation about this location mentioned already, it is old news, even FEO brochures point to this location, you claim many ppl have made money through doing home work studying location of the MRT stations, unless you have insider information, though your post may come true, is also 90% sepculative (ie. lucky guess).

Reporter
15-12-09, 18:48
Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of November 2009

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Parc Seabreeze .. RCR ........ 69 ............................ 1 ................................ 1,298 ............ 1,298 ............. 1,298
How to break July's high of $1,520 psf?

Reporter
17-02-10, 23:49
Missed July 2009 all-time high of $1,520 psf by $30 psf.


Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of January 2010
Project Name .. Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Parc SeaBreeze . RCR ........ 72 ........................ 3 ........................... 1,490 ............ 1,435 ........... 1,394

TOP
18-02-10, 10:48
No Sales for few months and suddenly 3 units sold. Could be the price and location become attractive compared to soon to be launched CORALIS next door.

Passing by yesterday. Seem to me that the developer has decided to KEEP the unsold units of PARC SB ( already make money with more than 75% sold ). The showroom is being converted to CORALIS ( both owned by Tiong Aik ) and all the Parc SB signboard replaced by CORALIS.

mcmlxxvi
18-02-10, 13:28
Will all the residents end up having button eyes like 'Coraline'?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4OYGjUrdllo/SS90DpiUvPI/AAAAAAAAMfo/0RpI6zkgGes/s400/coraline+tomopop.jpg

urban
28-02-10, 23:29
Are the 4-bedders stack 1 still available?

eng81157
01-03-10, 04:50
Are the 4-bedders stack 1 still available?

i know for sure that stack 5 and 6 are sold out. i believe that the unsold units are the larger 4BRs facing marine parade
the last i heard is that the developer is sort of witholding sales of remainder units till coralis is launched. now that coralis is, can call the developer up to check.

bullman
02-03-10, 08:16
i know for sure that stack 5 and 6 are sold out. i believe that the unsold units are the larger 4BRs facing marine parade
the last i heard is that the developer is sort of witholding sales of remainder units till coralis is launched. now that coralis is, can call the developer up to check.

Hi bros, the last time I heard. All the units are sold out except for 2 penthouses left. Anyone can confirm this?

sealover
02-03-10, 09:46
Hi bros, the last time I heard. All the units are sold out except for 2 penthouses left. Anyone can confirm this?

From caveats logged, one penthouse left. Only 4 rm units at stack 4 remain unsold but i think developer is holding them back not to crash with their soon to launch Coralis next door.

I am a resident/investor in Katong and am very confident in future of Katong's properties for following reasons:

1. When govenment recently increases the development charge in Katong area by 15%, it signals that the land in this area has appreciated. The response to Coralis sales will confirm this. Their studio is asking S$1500 psf.

2. Future Eastern Region MRT line will be built by 2020 with at least four stations serving Meyer to Marine Parade connecting straight to Changi Airport and the IRs

3. Like our friend from FEO said, Katong area is tranforming into a urban style living with many exciting new developments going on

4. It is situated in between Changi Airport and two IRs. All properties in between such locations all over the world are highly sougth after

5.The two IRs will bring in many sun/sea loving "ang mor" and the east coast beaches will be further developed to cater for them

6. The soon to be completed MCE ( Marina Coastal Express ) way will give residents in East Coast 5 mins drive straight to Sands and 10 mins to Sentosa

7. Last but not least, the famous Katong/Joo Chiat local delights.......

bullman
02-03-10, 09:52
Hi Sealover,

I am also an investor/resident in east coast. Great place to live in and play.

Are you eyeing the coralis as well?

1500 psf for studio is abit expensive IMHO. The studio are facing the back meaning no seaview even if you were to secure a high level unit.
I heard that the asking psf will be 1350 to 1500 for the project. However, despite all said, I expect it to be a sold out project given the current market.

eng81157
02-03-10, 10:51
7. Last but not least, the famous Katong/Joo Chiat local delights.......


hmm, were you referring to the laksa, peranakan food and chicken rice? or......:D

sealover
02-03-10, 13:41
Hi Sealover,

I am also an investor/resident in east coast. Great place to live in and play.

Are you eyeing the coralis as well?

1500 psf for studio is abit expensive IMHO. The studio are facing the back meaning no seaview even if you were to secure a high level unit.
I heard that the asking psf will be 1350 to 1500 for the project. However, despite all said, I expect it to be a sold out project given the current market.

You can't get good seaview from Coralis front units also, mostly blocked by HDBs.

I believe 1 to 2 rm units will be sold out but not 3/4 rms based on sales from The Shore, Moda and Parc SB.

Douk
02-03-10, 16:42
You can't get good seaview from Coralis front units also, mostly blocked by HDBs.

I believe 1 to 2 rm units will be sold out but not 3/4 rms based on sales from The Shore, Moda and Parc SB.

feel that those HDB will go in few years time. but then, they will be replaced by condos if this happens.

sealover
02-03-10, 17:57
feel that those HDB will go in few years time. but then, they will be replaced by condos if this happens.

I don't think so soon although most of them already exceeded 30 yrs old. The reason being that government is currently spending millions to upgrade the whoe estate ( lifts to all floors, new toilet and extra rm etc ). HDB just sent letters to inform residents that a new multi-story carpark will be built behind the polyclinic/7-eleven.

But the wared and teared Marine Parade Promenade area ( from Replubic Cinema to NTUC ) are most likely to be revamped in-line with the future MRT station. May be an underground city as suggested by the Strategic Economic Review Commitee....

Douk
02-03-10, 21:00
I don't think so soon although most of them already exceeded 30 yrs old. The reason being that government is currently spending millions to upgrade the whoe estate ( lifts to all floors, new toilet and extra rm etc ). HDB just sent letters to inform residents that a new multi-story carpark will be built behind the polyclinic/7-eleven.

But the wared and teared Marine Parade Promenade area ( from Replubic Cinema to NTUC ) are most likely to be revamped in-line with the future MRT station. May be an underground city as suggested by the Strategic Economic Review Commitee....

really ? thanks for the good info.

bullman
02-03-10, 21:48
You can't get good seaview from Coralis front units also, mostly blocked by HDBs.

I believe 1 to 2 rm units will be sold out but not 3/4 rms based on sales from The Shore, Moda and Parc SB.

I thought that the developer is building it slanted so as to achieve maximum sea view? I was thinking that those very high level (above 15) units should have a very good and unblock view even from the HDBs. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I agree with you that the studios and the stack of 2br facing the sea will be snapped up even at 1500psf.

sealover
02-03-10, 22:08
really ? thanks for the good info.

Just prediting, hopefully it happens...

Blue
03-03-10, 16:03
From caveats logged, one penthouse left. Only 4 rm units at stack 4 remain unsold but i think developer is holding them back not to crash with their soon to launch Coralis next door.

I am a resident/investor in Katong and am very confident in future of Katong's properties for following reasons:

1. When govenment recently increases the development charge in Katong area by 15%, it signals that the land in this area has appreciated. The response to Coralis sales will confirm this. Their studio is asking S$1500 psf.

2. Future Eastern Region MRT line will be built by 2020 with at least four stations serving Meyer to Marine Parade connecting straight to Changi Airport and the IRs

3. Like our friend from FEO said, Katong area is tranforming into a urban style living with many exciting new developments going on

4. It is situated in between Changi Airport and two IRs. All properties in between such locations all over the world are highly sougth after

5.The two IRs will bring in many sun/sea loving "ang mor" and the east coast beaches will be further developed to cater for them

6. The soon to be completed MCE ( Marina Coastal Express ) way will give residents in East Coast 5 mins drive straight to Sands and 10 mins to Sentosa

7. Last but not least, the famous Katong/Joo Chiat local delights.......

Great info on the future developments of D15. I oredi got a few ang moh expat colleagues staying in East Coast area from Meyer to Katong to Siglap! They all like the East Coast!!~

urban
17-03-10, 17:06
Will they re-price the PSB units now that Coralis is selling well?

sealover
17-03-10, 18:58
Will they re-price the PSB units now that Coralis is selling well?

I don't think so. The problem is that those unsold are big 4 room units facing (at least 50%) the neighbouring old condo ( I think is Marine View ). Very difficult to sell even at current asking price ( S$1350psf ave ).

If I am the Parc SB developer, I have already covered my back-side since I hv sold 80% of this project, I will Keep the unsold units until such time the neighbouring 2 condos has en-bloc. Hopefully, both are acquired by same developer who will combine the two very narrow long pieces of land into one fairly square on.

On the same thought, you will get quite a bargain now ( asking for better discount ) if you bet on successful en-bloc.... remember to buy high floor for good seaview..

urban
05-04-10, 14:01
I don't think so. The problem is that those unsold are big 4 room units facing (at least 50%) the neighbouring old condo ( I think is Marine View ). Very difficult to sell even at current asking price ( S$1350psf ave ).

If I am the Parc SB developer, I have already covered my back-side since I hv sold 80% of this project, I will Keep the unsold units until such time the neighbouring 2 condos has en-bloc. Hopefully, both are acquired by same developer who will combine the two very narrow long pieces of land into one fairly square on.

On the same thought, you will get quite a bargain now ( asking for better discount ) if you bet on successful en-bloc.... remember to buy high floor for good seaview..

How is the sale of this development? I recently bought a high floor unit at stack 4 (with the west sun shining into the toilet).

eng81157
05-04-10, 15:14
How is the sale of this development? I recently bought a high floor unit at stack 4 (with the west sun shining into the toilet).

think almost all sold out eh? can suntan while dipping in the long bath. :)

DC33_2008
05-04-10, 15:32
think almost all sold out eh? can suntan while dipping in the long bath. :)

UVA will cause ageing; UVB will cause sun burn; and UVC is a high frequency radiation used in sterilisation. Not sure if you want to shower in the afternoon. Based on upper chart, West Facade receives about 4 times more solar radiation than the East Facade on a given day in March. Solair temperature can reach 55degC. The bathroom may be like a greenhouse. It will continue to radiate heat into the room even after sunset as the temperature of brick or blockwall will be relatively warmer than the air temperature given its high thermal mass. It will take a while before it reduces to air temperature in the room even if you ventilate your room.

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m356/DC33_2008/SolarRadiationE_W_facade.jpg

urban
05-04-10, 15:38
UVA will cause ageing; UVB will cause sun burn; and UVC is a high frequency radiation used in sterilisation. Not sure if you want to shower in the afternoon. Based on upper chart, West Facade receives about 4 times more solar radiation than the East Facade on a given day in March. Solair temperature can reach 55degC. The bathroom may be like a greenhouse. It will continue to radiate heat into the room even after sunset as the temperature of brick or blockwall will be relatively warmer than the air temperature given its high thermal mass. It will take a while before it reduces to air temperature in the room even if you ventilate your room.

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m356/DC33_2008/SolarRadiationE_W_facade.jpg

Amazing scientific data. Must wear full body swimsuit to bathe liao.

DC33_2008
05-04-10, 17:33
Amazing scientific data. Must wear full body swimsuit to bathe liao.

Imagine if the west facing facade is not the toilet but is either the bedroom or living room. It can be really hot!

urban
05-04-10, 17:51
Imagine if the west facing facade is not the toilet but is either the bedroom or living room. It can be really hot!

Like that, of course will not buy liao. Waste money, right?

DC33_2008
05-04-10, 21:49
Like that, of course will not buy liao. Waste money, right?

But people are still buying units with these conditions at Vision and Estuary. I am also puzzled :doh:

eng81157
05-04-10, 22:12
looking at the brochure and layout, both stack 4 & 5's toilets are directly hit by the west sun and with just part of the master BR affected at a slanting angle.

sealover
05-04-10, 22:20
I hv a west facing unit rented out to an Indian family. They purposely chose west facing because they can dry their cloth under the sun ( kill germs and dry faster ):beats-me-man: .

I also met some tenants purposely choosing west facing to match their fengshui.....

So not just about science......

urban
01-07-10, 14:07
Drove past. Seems like the construction is quite fast. Seems like they are starting on #01 already.

eng81157
01-07-10, 20:06
that fast?? my bank hasn't even asked me for loan payments yet.....:beats-me-man:

marktkt22
14-08-10, 15:50
There could be a MRT station nearby. Or the developer is pricing it ahead of the soon to be announced Master Plan 2008.

anyone has more info on the possible location of the marine parade mrt...between republic and PSB ..??:)

eng81157
15-08-10, 04:32
anyone has more info on the possible location of the marine parade mrt...between republic and PSB ..??:)

thought this topic was covered long time back in another thread? rumored to be around the old library and republic theatre area

marktkt22
19-08-10, 22:31
thanks .. for the info. i must have missed the thread.:)

eng81157
20-08-10, 10:54
no problems. just an update on the project, bank has finally asked me to start financing the loan; i.e. the foundation has been laid at long last

marktkt22
24-08-10, 00:12
congrats on getting PSB...it a good location and hopefully, mrt is nearby. i am further away...in tembeling.:)

eng81157
24-08-10, 05:28
thanks, is tembeling further down along joo chiat road?

urban
25-11-10, 11:48
Looks like 7th floor is done.

Very fast construction.

eng81157
25-11-10, 13:36
Looks like 7th floor is done.

Very fast construction.

yup, just passed by after shopping at pp last weekend. silversea is propping up pretty fast too

marktkt22
27-11-10, 00:21
:)
thanks, is tembeling further down along joo chiat road?
Yes, it further down, opp Katong mall:)

TOP
27-11-10, 10:52
SINGAPORE : Paramount Hotel & Shopping Centre has been sold to Orchard Mall for S$214 million.

This is the biggest collective sale in the commercial property market this year.

The site comes up to nearly 102,000 square feet and has a gross plot ratio of up to 3.0 Jones Lang LaSalle, manager of the sale, said the freehold site has a potential gross floor area of up around 308,000 square feet.

This works out to approximately S$1,178 per square foot, per plot ratio. While the site was zoned for use as a hotel under a previous Master plan, Jones Lang LaSalle said that it has varied redevelopment options such as hotel, commercial, residential, or a combination of the three, subject to planning approval from the authorities.

The site currently holds a 229-room hotel and shopping complex comprising a four-storey podium and an eight-storey tower block.

Quek Soh Hoon, national director and head of commercial at Jones Lang LaSalle, said that the bids signalled a strong interest for this rare, prime, freehold redevelopment site.

She added that Jones Lang LaSalle is confident of the potential that the site could offer due to the accessible location and the nearby amenities.

- CNA/ms


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Orchard Mall belong to FEO? If they choose to convert it to Condo with additional Development charge, they have to sell at least higher than their 99 yr old SilverSea ( >>S$1700psf ) that will make the surrounding condos look very cheap ..... some QE2 money will sure cheong to this area soon...

reuters
27-11-10, 22:22
SINGAPORE : Paramount Hotel & Shopping Centre has been sold to Orchard Mall for S$214 million.

This is the biggest collective sale in the commercial property market this year.

The site comes up to nearly 102,000 square feet and has a gross plot ratio of up to 3.0 Jones Lang LaSalle, manager of the sale, said the freehold site has a potential gross floor area of up around 308,000 square feet.

This works out to approximately S$1,178 per square foot, per plot ratio. While the site was zoned for use as a hotel under a previous Master plan, Jones Lang LaSalle said that it has varied redevelopment options such as hotel, commercial, residential, or a combination of the three, subject to planning approval from the authorities.

The site currently holds a 229-room hotel and shopping complex comprising a four-storey podium and an eight-storey tower block.

Quek Soh Hoon, national director and head of commercial at Jones Lang LaSalle, said that the bids signalled a strong interest for this rare, prime, freehold redevelopment site.

She added that Jones Lang LaSalle is confident of the potential that the site could offer due to the accessible location and the nearby amenities.

- CNA/ms


--------------------------

Orchard Mall belong to FEO? If they choose to convert it to Condo with additional Development charge, they have to sell at least higher than their 99 yr old SilverSea ( >>S$1700psf ) that will make the surrounding condos look very cheap ..... some QE2 money will sure cheong to this area soon...

If Katong Shopping Centre also goes en-bloc and become a major shopping mall... this entire area near Paramount Hotel will be very prime in Marine Parade! Location is unbeatable.

urban
21-02-11, 16:53
Now at 14th floor. Why is this development moving so much faster than Coralis?

bargain hunter
21-02-11, 19:41
maybe becoz this project was first launched in 2007 while coralis is more recent?


Now at 14th floor. Why is this development moving so much faster than Coralis?

DC33_2008
22-02-11, 08:37
Price at parc seabreeze is not moving up even with higher selling price at coralis.

urban
22-02-11, 09:24
Price at parc seabreeze is not moving up even with higher selling price at coralis.

I think there are still a few of units in the hands of developers.
Much bigger units than Coralis, so not easy from a total quantum wise to move.

eng81157
22-02-11, 13:13
Price at parc seabreeze is not moving up even with higher selling price at coralis.

eh, no subsale transaction yet from ura website. do you have an alternate source of information?

DC33_2008
22-02-11, 13:19
you can try streetsine.com.
eh, no subsale transaction yet from ura website. do you have an alternate source of information?

urban
22-02-11, 14:26
No sub-sale yet.

I guess 2 factors, 3 and 4 bedders only... buyers are buying to stay.
Developer still has a few units.

eng81157
22-02-11, 14:41
you can try streetsine.com.

same as what's listed on URA. comparing Coralis and PSB's 3BR (1400ish and 1100ish respectively), no reason why the latter should remain at that level, when both units are located in the same vicinity, relatively similar in size and are FH.

TOP
22-02-11, 20:52
same as what's listed on URA. comparing Coralis and PSB's 3BR (1400ish and 1100ish respectively), no reason why the latter should remain at that level, when both units are located in the same vicinity, relatively similar in size and are FH.

If you check the latest caveats, the psfs of PSB are very misleading as these are mostly unpropular 4 rms stack. The developer decided not to raise the psf ( since 2009 ) for this stack because it is partially blocked by next door Marine View. Not many willing to pay S$2M to buy a no seaview semi-blocked property. To-date, there are still 6 low fl 4 rm units remain unsold although the S$1200 psf asking price is very attractive taking into account that Marine Point which is stone-throw away has been en-bloced at S$1050psf.

On the other hand you can find out from Propertyguru those 3rm units of PSB ( bought at around S$1150 psf ) facing Coralis are asking >S$1500psf which is in-line with Coralis's psf.

eng81157
23-02-11, 07:56
If you check the latest caveats, the psfs of PSB are very misleading as these are mostly unpropular 4 rms stack. The developer decided not to raise the psf ( since 2009 ) for this stack because it is partially blocked by next door Marine View. Not many willing to pay S$2M to buy a no seaview semi-blocked property. To-date, there are still 6 low fl 4 rm units remain unsold although the S$1200 psf asking price is very attractive taking into account that Marine Point which is stone-throw away has been en-bloced at S$1050psf.

On the other hand you can find out from Propertyguru those 3rm units of PSB ( bought at around S$1150 psf ) facing Coralis are asking >S$1500psf which is in-line with Coralis's psf.

yup, you are totally right. the asking prices of psb units in propertyguru mirrors the selling price of the 3brs in coralis, though there isn't any disclosed subsale till date.

DC33_2008
23-02-11, 08:02
Can have seaview from here? I thought there is quite a no. of HDB flats between the sea and this site.
If you check the latest caveats, the psfs of PSB are very misleading as these are mostly unpropular 4 rms stack. The developer decided not to raise the psf ( since 2009 ) for this stack because it is partially blocked by next door Marine View. Not many willing to pay S$2M to buy a no seaview semi-blocked property. To-date, there are still 6 low fl 4 rm units remain unsold although the S$1200 psf asking price is very attractive taking into account that Marine Point which is stone-throw away has been en-bloced at S$1050psf.

On the other hand you can find out from Propertyguru those 3rm units of PSB ( bought at around S$1150 psf ) facing Coralis are asking >S$1500psf which is in-line with Coralis's psf.

eng81157
23-02-11, 08:25
Can have seaview from here? I thought there is quite a no. of HDB flats between the sea and this site.

probably above a certain level. assuming most of the hdb blocks are about 13-15 storeys high and that psb unit's ceiling height is about 1.2-1.3x of a hdb flat, then seaview should be available for units located level 10 and above. taking into account an angle of elevation, then we should be looking at level 12/13 and above.

DC33_2008
23-02-11, 08:37
There is also quite a no. of 20-25 storey point blocks closer to the ECP. May get pocket seaview rather than obstructed seaview unless condo is more than 30 storeys.
probably above a certain level. assuming most of the hdb blocks are about 13-15 storeys high and that psb unit's ceiling height is about 1.2-1.3x of a hdb flat, then seaview should be available for units located level 10 and above. taking into account an angle of elevation, then we should be looking at level 12/13 and above.

eng81157
23-02-11, 09:59
There is also quite a no. of 20-25 storey point blocks closer to the ECP. May get pocket seaview rather than obstructed seaview unless condo is more than 30 storeys.

not more than 30 storeys for sure. if the point blocks are in the way, the scenario would probably be as what you've described.

but on a psf comparison, coralis' units do not have sea view and are going at more than 1400psf

bullman
23-02-11, 10:50
not more than 30 storeys for sure. if the point blocks are in the way, the scenario would probably be as what you've described.

but on a psf comparison, coralis' units do not have sea view and are going at more than 1400psf

The front facing stacks of Coralis should have pocket seaview, or so I hope.

TOP
18-06-11, 14:08
A 1292sqft unit sub-sale at S$1570 psf! I think owner got it at around S$1200psf in 2009 which was quite ex at that time. Congrat!

Ed Wong
18-06-11, 15:51
WOW sub-sale at $1570!

Fareast & Capitaland have been snapping up condos, malls, hotel in the area in the past 1 year!

Marine Point @$1,056 psf ppr
Choa Kim Keat @1,195 psf ppr

They need to launch above $1,650 with construction cost and profit margin!

Katong Mall was bought up and now developed into a brand new upmarket mall!

There will be plenty more upside potential when these new condo are launched?

What is driving these developers on the enbloc spree in this small area?

Is the MRT station just across the road?

Are there new developments in the area that these developers already know that led them to these aggressive investment?

devilplate
18-06-11, 15:53
Personally, i feel tat its more like due to feo own silversea pricing....

Anyway, the cape oredi so so high psf....new launches at 1800psf is kind of current market pricing

Furthermore, the sea view oredi consistently hitting 1500psf for big units.....so this parc sb hitting 15xxpsf is nothing amazing actually given it is brandnew

eng81157
18-06-11, 17:20
Personally, i feel tat its more like due to feo own silversea pricing....

Anyway, the cape oredi so so high psf....new launches at 1800psf is kind of current market pricing

Furthermore, the sea view oredi consistently hitting 1500psf for big units.....so this parc sb hitting 15xxpsf is nothing amazing actually given it is brandnew

it's still a handsome sum of profit, should be in the range of $400+k

Ed Wong
19-06-11, 09:07
Is Parc seabreeze a good development in term of location of its location?

eng81157
19-06-11, 14:15
Is Parc seabreeze a good development in term of location of its location?

i'm vested so i could be biased. it's a good location, just opposite republic theatre, 5mins away from parkway, the new katong mall and within 1 km of tao nan primary school.

clemdale
19-06-11, 22:14
i'm vested so i could be biased. it's a good location, just opposite republic theatre, 5mins away from parkway, the new katong mall and within 1 km of tao nan primary school.

I agree its a good location. All the condos along that stretch of marine parade road opposite parkway are good. That includes The Seaview too. I dont particularly like the location of SilverSea.. the entrance right in the middle of the roundabout puts me off - unlike the Seaview, which has 2 entrances, one along Amber Road and another one at the back which you can enter from Mountbatten Rd opp Katong Shopping Centre.

DC33_2008
20-06-11, 11:25
My only concern in this area is the road congestion when all these developments are TOP. Besides the residents, there are lots of visitors to parkway parade with parents sending kids to the nearby places for enrichment classes.
I agree its a good location. All the condos along that stretch of marine parade road opposite parkway are good. That includes The Seaview too. I dont particularly like the location of SilverSea.. the entrance right in the middle of the roundabout puts me off - unlike the Seaview, which has 2 entrances, one along Amber Road and another one at the back which you can enter from Mountbatten Rd opp Katong Shopping Centre.

Laguna
20-06-11, 15:09
There will be a very massive redevelopment of the entire Marine Parade area once the MRT line is known.

The market, hawker centre, multi-storey carpark, NTUC, etc will be rebuilt. This area is under-developed and alr > 35 years

In other words, there is going to be big mass of construction

DC33_2008
20-06-11, 15:53
It will surely come true. The question is when?
There will be a very massive redevelopment of the entire Marine Parade area once the MRT line is known.

The market, hawker centre, multi-storey carpark, NTUC, etc will be rebuilt. This area is under-developed and alr > 35 years

In other words, there is going to be big mass of construction

clemdale
21-06-11, 09:51
It will surely come true. The question is when?

Yeah can't they tell us where the MRT stations are and what's gonna happen already?!

DC33_2008
21-06-11, 17:32
New development launches in the last 2 years have already indirectly priced in the mrt stn. What if it is not near there?:eek:
Yeah can't they tell us where the MRT stations are and what's gonna happen already?!

TOP
12-07-11, 17:43
With MRT and something BIG may happen right infront of this project, I thought of picking up one long unwanted low floor unit at bargained price ( 4 units shown on URA May data ) and called the developer office today but was told that all sold. Aiya, regret not buying earlier. :banghead:

devilplate
12-07-11, 17:53
With MRT and something BIG may happen right infront of this project, I thought of picking up one long unwanted low floor unit at bargained price ( 4 units shown on URA May data ) and called the developer office today but was told that all sold. Aiya, regret not buying earlier. :banghead:
U got try looking at resale nearby?

Ed Wong
12-07-11, 20:14
Did u ask the developer about coralis behind psb? You can buy a unit there?

DC33_2008
12-07-11, 21:30
I thought they have already factored in the MRT stn. What is the something BIG. The demolition of parkway centre or the cinema?
With MRT and something BIG may happen right infront of this project, I thought of picking up one long unwanted low floor unit at bargained price ( 4 units shown on URA May data ) and called the developer office today but was told that all sold. Aiya, regret not buying earlier. :banghead:

bullman
12-07-11, 23:16
With MRT and something BIG may happen right infront of this project, I thought of picking up one long unwanted low floor unit at bargained price ( 4 units shown on URA May data ) and called the developer office today but was told that all sold. Aiya, regret not buying earlier. :banghead:

I guess you know about the "news" as well then. I was also eyeing that mentioned unit and it just move suddenly. Coralis also move 2 units in May/June so i guess the signs are pretty clear.

Btw, just paid the next 10% last month for Coralis as foundation is completed. Next payment should be in Nov/Dec. Just in time for the openng of new katong mall.

marktkt22
12-07-11, 23:32
Hi, i am not in the know, kindly drop some hints what the big event?mrt announcement,
Tear down marine parade promenade ? :beats-me-man:

clemdale
13-07-11, 03:30
The point of this forum is to share information and opinions. It would be nice if you could let us know, since not all of us have the cash to buy one of those condos anyway :P



I guess you know about the "news" as well then. I was also eyeing that mentioned unit and it just move suddenly. Coralis also move 2 units in May/June so i guess the signs are pretty clear.

Btw, just paid the next 10% last month for Coralis as foundation is completed. Next payment should be in Nov/Dec. Just in time for the openng of new katong mall.

Shawn
13-07-11, 03:42
I agree its a good location. All the condos along that stretch of marine parade road opposite parkway are good. That includes The Seaview too. I dont particularly like the location of SilverSea.. the entrance right in the middle of the roundabout puts me off - unlike the Seaview, which has 2 entrances, one along Amber Road and another one at the back which you can enter from Mountbatten Rd opp Katong Shopping Centre.

Sorry clemen i dont agree with u on this one. The Seaview, as the condo is called, unfortunately, will soon no longer have a seaview as it will be entirely blocked by Silversea.

Silversea is located right in front of East Coast beach as such offers unblocked view of the ocean. As such, it offers more exclusivity whereas The Seaview is now stucked in the middle of dozens of condos sprucing up around it.

As with regards to entrance and exit point, it is stilll not clear yet as Silversea is still under construction.

Shawn
13-07-11, 03:52
i'm vested so i could be biased. it's a good location, just opposite republic theatre, 5mins away from parkway, the new katong mall and within 1 km of tao nan primary school.

As an agent I think PSB is in a good class Marine Parade locatio. However, as a person, I feel that its too close to the HDB area as such, it kind of dilute the high class status of PSB being too close to the old residential estate of Marine Parade.

I would prefer Meyer and Amber Road location as they seem to be more high class with all either condos or landed properties.

Shawn
13-07-11, 04:03
Far East will launch its future project at Amber all above $2000psf thats for sure as it bought enbloc at super high psf. The whole area around Meyer/Amber road will be priced at above $2000psf in 3-5 years from now.

The East Coast park will undergo a major ovehaul and this include the rebuilding of the old state chalets at east coast beach as well as new eating outlets/establishments along east coast park. In addition, the new Marina Expressway which will be ready in 2013 will link Fort Rd/Meyer Road to the Marina Bay sands and town in 5 minutes.

In addition, Katong Mall will commence operation in late 2012 while Katong Shopping Centre might go enbloc soon and rebuild.

All these are old news. New news will be the Eastern MRT announcement which likely to have a station near Amber and Parkway Parade. And a possible major project coming up at Marina East (i.e. fort road area). Dont forget the exclusive casino license will expire in 2017, opening Singapore up to future casino players anxiously waiting to pump their money in Singapore. And where else can you find a big parcel of land near CBD other than Marina East and Marina South ??

And the Singapore government doesnt build new expressway along abandoned piece of land (Marina South) for no reason either. Everything takes into account future plans for the area.

With all these come into reality, dont u think this area will be a prime area??




WOW sub-sale at $1570!

Fareast & Capitaland have been snapping up condos, malls, hotel in the area in the past 1 year!

Marine Point @$1,056 psf ppr
Choa Kim Keat @1,195 psf ppr

They need to launch above $1,650 with construction cost and profit margin!

Katong Mall was bought up and now developed into a brand new upmarket mall!

There will be plenty more upside potential when these new condo are launched?

What is driving these developers on the enbloc spree in this small area?

Is the MRT station just across the road?

Are there new developments in the area that these developers already know that led them to these aggressive investment?

Jonathan0503
13-07-11, 09:44
Far East will launch its future project at Amber all above $2000psf thats for sure as it bought enbloc at super high psf. The whole area around Meyer/Amber road will be priced at above $2000psf in 3-5 years from now.

The East Coast park will undergo a major ovehaul and this include the rebuilding of the old state chalets at east coast beach as well as new eating outlets/establishments along east coast park. In addition, the new Marina Expressway which will be ready in 2013 will link Fort Rd/Meyer Road to the Marina Bay sands and town in 5 minutes.

In addition, Katong Mall will commence operation in late 2012 while Katong Shopping Centre might go enbloc soon and rebuild.

All these are old news. New news will be the Eastern MRT announcement which likely to have a station near Amber and Parkway Parade. And a possible major project coming up at Marina East (i.e. fort road area). Dont forget the exclusive casino license will expire in 2017, opening Singapore up to future casino players anxiously waiting to pump their money in Singapore. And where else can you find a big parcel of land near CBD other than Marina East and Marina South ??

And the Singapore government doesnt build new expressway along abandoned piece of land (Marina South) for no reason either. Everything takes into account future plans for the area.

With all these come into reality, dont u think this area will be a prime area??

So do you foresee that price of D15 will overtake D10 and D11?

iwantgizmos
13-07-11, 11:38
So do you foresee that price of D15 will overtake D10 and D11?
D15 is already considered "UP" now... regarded as "Pride of the East" I might say...

won't exactly overtake D10 / D11... :tsk-tsk: that area tough fight leh...

But lots of action going on here, with malls under construction... MRT stations popping near it's vicinity, lots of properties getting enbloc there, etc...

urban
13-07-11, 11:48
As an agent I think PSB is in a good class Marine Parade locatio. However, as a person, I feel that its too close to the HDB area as such, it kind of dilute the high class status of PSB being too close to the old residential estate of Marine Parade.

I would prefer Meyer and Amber Road location as they seem to be more high class with all either condos or landed properties.

For me I like condos which are near to HDB and amenities.
It is always nice to get kopitiam food or supermarkets without driving out.

Disclosure: i have a unit at PSB.

bfam
13-07-11, 12:24
With MRT and something BIG may happen right infront of this project, I thought of picking up one long unwanted low floor unit at bargained price ( 4 units shown on URA May data ) and called the developer office today but was told that all sold. Aiya, regret not buying earlier. :banghead:

those are stack 4 (4bedders) - slant facing PP. I bio this proj since 2009. almost bot at gd px - but second thot tat if traffic noise + facing (if people "ban-dang") - difficult to offload at gd px.

Stack 1 and higher floors (go for resale) - may get seabreeze and view. :D

Ed Wong
13-07-11, 23:17
I passed by psb today and saw major soil testing work at the grass patch in front!
The mrt station should be along the stretch of road opposite parkway!
You can still see the soil test over the next few days as tent is built around the test equipment!

Shawn
15-07-11, 04:16
So do you foresee that price of D15 will overtake D10 and D11?

Its unlikely that District 15 will overtake District 10 in psf price, but D11 probably in the next 5 years. In fact, those new developments in Meyer/Amber Road are already transacting above $2000psf for some of their good facing units easily surpassing some of the new developments in D11.

I guess with the upcoming Marina Expressway and the new MRT, D15 will effectively surpass D11 and be on par with D10.

As of now D15 prices are still below average market performance. I give u one example, Makena and Costa Rhu was launched 15 years back at a psf price of $1000 but presently, new developments in the same area are only transacting at $1600-2000psf, which is still less than 100% appreciation.

Whereas, areas like Lavender for eg. City Lights and Southbank condo have appreciated by 300% from $500psf just 6 years ago to $1500psf on average now. Even neighborhood condos like Savannah at Simei have appreciated more than 100% from $400psf to $800psf.

As such, D15 still has a long way to go to see further appreciation in its prices as compared to other neighborhoods.

Jonathan0503
15-07-11, 09:12
Its unlikely that District 15 will overtake District 10 in psf price, but D11 probably in the next 5 years. In fact, those new developments in Meyer/Amber Road are already transacting above $2000psf for some of their good facing units easily surpassing some of the new developments in D11.

I guess with the upcoming Marina Expressway and the new MRT, D15 will effectively surpass D11 and be on par with D10.

As of now D15 prices are still below average market performance. I give u one example, Makena and Costa Rhu was launched 15 years back at a psf price of $1000 but presently, new developments in the same area are only transacting at $1600-2000psf, which is still less than 100% appreciation.

Whereas, areas like Lavender for eg. City Lights and Southbank condo have appreciated by 300% from $500psf just 6 years ago to $1500psf on average now. Even neighborhood condos like Savannah at Simei have appreciated more than 100% from $400psf to $800psf.

As such, D15 still has a long way to go to see further appreciation in its prices as compared to other neighborhoods.

Don't quite agree with you.

Depends on which project in D15 you are refering to and when they were bought. Some have definitely increased 100% or more.

I bought mine about 5.5 years ago and has since increased about 100%

Shawn
16-07-11, 18:16
Don't quite agree with you.

Depends on which project in D15 you are refering to and when they were bought. Some have definitely increased 100% or more.

I bought mine about 5.5 years ago and has since increased about 100%

Well has it increased to 300%?? Areas like Lavender (Citylights, Southbank etc) have all gone up by 300%. East Coast is still lagging by a huge margin.

sh
17-07-11, 00:15
Well has it increased to 300%?? Areas like Lavender (Citylights, Southbank etc) have all gone up by 300%. East Coast is still lagging by a huge margin.

don't have lah... not for SB anyway.... 230% if you're lucky....

Citylights if you're the very first buyers.... maybe...:beats-me-man:

DC33_2008
17-07-11, 10:57
What will the sites in front of CL and SB be selling at?
don't have lah... not for SB anyway.... 230% if you're lucky....

Citylights if you're the very first buyers.... maybe...:beats-me-man:

sh
17-07-11, 15:18
What will the sites in front of CL and SB be selling at?

Don't think the sites will be sold any time soon. it's marked as "reserve" on URA's masterplan. The parcels likely to be sold 1st are in front of riverine by the park. At least those are in the masterplan.:)

DC33_2008
17-07-11, 15:24
Not sure if there will be any revision to this area in the coming up Concept Plan 2011.
Don't think the sites will be sold any time soon. it's marked as "reserve" on URA's masterplan. The parcels likely to be sold 1st are in front of riverine by the park. At least those are in the masterplan.:)

eng81157
20-09-11, 11:30
Any fellow owners of PSB have knowledge when the development is gonna TOP?

eng81157
10-02-12, 08:57
just got news from developer that project is likely to TOP by the end of the year

Jonathan0503
10-02-12, 12:18
just got news from developer that project is likely to TOP by the end of the year

Thought it looks more or less like completed? Still need to wait till year end, another 10 months?

eng81157
10-02-12, 15:48
Thought it looks more or less like completed? Still need to wait till year end, another 10 months?

your guess is as good as mine. i can only re-gurgitate what the developer mentioned.

hey bro, are you a fellow owner too?

Jonathan0503
10-02-12, 16:23
your guess is as good as mine. i can only re-gurgitate what the developer mentioned.

hey bro, are you a fellow owner too?

No, I'm not.

I wish I am though :)

eng81157
16-02-12, 10:39
hi fellow bros, got agents calling me up the last few days with offers between $1500-$1550psf for my 3BR unit.

is this a good price to let go? any comments?

Rosy
16-02-12, 10:46
hi fellow bros, got agents calling me up the last few days with offers between $1500-$1550psf for my 3BR unit.

is this a good price to let go? any comments?

If you are not cash tight and do not need the cash, it is an excellent project to hold on.

Ed Wong
18-02-12, 22:01
Is your unit on high floor and sea facing?

eng81157
20-02-12, 09:35
Is your unit on high floor and sea facing?

high but not sea-facing.

bullman
20-02-12, 10:16
hi fellow bros, got agents calling me up the last few days with offers between $1500-$1550psf for my 3BR unit.

is this a good price to let go? any comments?

Thats a good price to let go bro. You bought at around $1000 psf for high floor non-sea facing? I sense a sudden interest in that area as coincidentally, I am also getting offers for my high floor mini pocket seaview 2 BRs in the region of $1550 psf even when I am not putting them up for sale.

eng81157
20-02-12, 10:20
Thats a good price to let go bro. You bought at around $1000 psf for high floor non-sea facing? I sense a sudden interest in that area as coincidentally, I am also getting offers for my high floor mini pocket seaview 2 BRs in the region of $1550 psf even when I am not putting them up for sale.

my purchase was close to $1200psf. considering to let go if the offers hit $2mil, though considering at current's market prices, there is no way i can get a replacement unit at between $1500-$1600psf.

punggol LH already hitting $1000-1100psf :scared-5: . moreover, marine point (post enbloc) should be hitting at least $1600 to breakeven.

bullman
20-02-12, 10:40
my purchase was close to $1200psf. considering to let go if the offers hit $2mil, though considering at current's market prices, there is no way i can get a replacement unit at between $1500-$1600psf.

punggol LH already hitting $1000-1100psf :scared-5: . moreover, marine point (post enbloc) should be hitting at least $1600 to breakeven.

$1200 psf is still a good price. My entry price was around $1400 psf. I am also waiting eagerly for CapLand to launch that project. My guesstimate is that the launch price could be $1900 psf up as they are launching it MM style, unless there is a change in plan to launch bigger units.

Let's wait together while harvesting capital appreciation as more news n that area come online.

Rosy
20-02-12, 10:46
$1200 psf is still a good price. My entry price was around $1400 psf. I am also waiting eagerly for CapLand to launch that project. My guesstimate is that the launch price could be $1900 psf up as they are launching it MM style, unless there is a change in plan to launch bigger units.

Let's wait together while harvesting capital appreciation as more news n that area come online.
Just for discussion.

I personally do not think higher psf new launches shoebox will help to push up other bigger size projects nearby. I have personally seen a disparity of 500-600psf

price
20-02-12, 10:50
Just for discussion.

I personally do not think higher psf new launches shoebox will help to push up other bigger size projects nearby. I have personally seen a disparity of 500-600psf

I do think it will affect, but of course not a dollar to dollar effect.

Rosy
20-02-12, 10:51
I do think it will affect, but of course not a dollar to dollar effect.

the effect can be insignificant in today's market condition. 80% LTV will have a much greater impact.

eng81157
20-02-12, 12:06
Just for discussion.

I personally do not think higher psf new launches shoebox will help to push up other bigger size projects nearby. I have personally seen a disparity of 500-600psf

the disparity is huge. for new launches, the difference is normally $200-300psf

Rosy
20-02-12, 12:09
the disparity is huge. for new launches, the difference is normally $200-300psf
yes for similar size.

Imagine 4xxsqft 1bdr, 800sqft 2bdr, 1k sqft 3bdr? similar to coralis sizing

perhaps 4xxsqft-1ksqft new launches selling for 2.3-2.5kpsf and it is well received. Then bigger units nearby can rise up to 1800psf?

Rosy
20-02-12, 12:13
my purchase was close to $1200psf. considering to let go if the offers hit $2mil, though considering at current's market prices, there is no way i can get a replacement unit at between $1500-$1600psf.

punggol LH already hitting $1000-1100psf :scared-5: . moreover, marine point (post enbloc) should be hitting at least $1600 to breakeven.

I am just curious, I would thought 1550psf for a 3bdr will hit 2mil already?

eng81157
20-02-12, 12:37
I am just curious, I would thought 1550psf for a 3bdr will hit 2mil already?

yup, though i don't think i can get a replacement unit in the same vicinity at the same price.

however, i personally think it's insanity to pay $2m for a 3BR condo.

dtrax
20-02-12, 12:43
yes for similar size.

Imagine 4xxsqft 1bdr, 800sqft 2bdr, 1k sqft 3bdr? similar to coralis sizing

perhaps 4xxsqft-1ksqft new launches selling for 2.3-2.5kpsf and it is well received. Then bigger units nearby can rise up to 1800psf?

2.3/2.5k psf can easily buy orchard,CBD near MRT areas already regardless FH/LH

bullman
20-02-12, 13:11
Just for discussion.

I personally do not think higher psf new launches shoebox will help to push up other bigger size projects nearby. I have personally seen a disparity of 500-600psf

Maybe you can share of an example of a disparity of 500-600 psf? I have personally not seen such a huge disparity.

Rosy
20-02-12, 16:11
Maybe you can share of an example of a disparity of 500-600 psf? I have personally not seen such a huge disparity.
The Cape vs amber residences

Shawn
20-02-12, 19:41
There are too many condos launched in shoe box size but not everyone goes for it.

Shawn
20-02-12, 19:49
The Cape vs amber residences
Well u cant compare these 2. The Cape was launched last year whereas Amber Residences was launched years back. Price psf was much much different and cheaper then. Its better to compare same period launch project to have a better gauge.

In addition, The Cape is located at a better location compared to Amber Residences which is on a busy road. Even entrance and exit Amber Residences is chaotic. The Cape is less congested while Amber is stacked between lots of condos. There are lots of issues to compare like land size as The Cape has a bigger land area for just 76 units whereas Amber Residences seriously look congested for a big development of more than 114 units.

In addition, The Cape architecture is more promising and regular shape compared to Amber Residences which look more mundane and pale. The land shape for Amber Residence is of an odd slanted rectangle shape making it extremely congested to fit a building there stacked in the middle between the old Amberglades, Amber Park, 38 Amber, Vertis. Needless to say, every unit is facing a building just like 20-30 metres away from it.

I guess when u talk about Amber itself, it varies depending on which part of Amber it is.

Rosy
20-02-12, 20:24
I am only trying to show an example of 500-600psf which is quite suitable for case study purposes.

Whether parc seabreeze will be pulled up by future launches with smaller unit configuration

Shawn
20-02-12, 20:47
I am only trying to show an example of 500-600psf which is quite suitable for case study purposes.

Whether parc seabreeze will be pulled up by future launches with smaller unit configuration

You are right developer can make more $$ if they launch MM units at prime district 15 like Amber and Marine Parade Road. But then again, some of the buyers profile for this location would prefer bigger units thats why we see the popularity of big-sized unit condos in Meyer Road.

As far as we can see, D15 is a very popular district for residence, and its price psf does not swing drastically compared to other speculative locations like Balestier, Orchard, City areas.

Ed Wong
20-02-12, 21:35
Do you think the psf price will be pushed up further with the announcement of the marine parade mrt station? Did the katong mall pushed up the price recently? If the answer is yes, then there may be upside potential going forward

eng81157
21-02-12, 01:08
Do you think the psf price will be pushed up further with the announcement of the marine parade mrt station? Did the katong mall pushed up the price recently? If the answer is yes, then there may be upside potential going forward

your answer is 'cryptic' leh. the obvious answer from an owner's perspective is yes but the real issue is - will a prospective buyer pay more than $2m for a condo unit (which is the equivalent of a terrace unit in TK)?

bullman
21-02-12, 06:54
The Cape vs amber residences

I had the impression that this particular discussion was on projects that have not TOPed with a disparity of 500-600 psf?

Anyway, lets not speculate and wait for the announcements of the new launch and ERL patiently.

bullman
21-02-12, 06:55
your answer is 'cryptic' leh. the obvious answer from an owner's perspective is yes but the real issue is - will a prospective buyer pay more than $2m for a condo unit (which is the equivalent of a terrace unit in TK)?

I know what you mean bro but you can't really compare a condo unit with landed. In my area, people buy 5-6 mil condo units when the IT and CT are going for 4-5 mil.

devilplate
21-02-12, 07:57
I know what you mean bro but you can't really compare a condo unit with landed. In my area, people buy 5-6 mil condo units when the IT and CT are going for 4-5 mil.
bcoz condos free flow for foreigners mah.....

rules of the game had changed hor.....

eng81157
21-02-12, 08:01
I know what you mean bro but you can't really compare a condo unit with landed. In my area, people buy 5-6 mil condo units when the IT and CT are going for 4-5 mil.

wow, where is this area of yours where a condo is more expensive than a landed unit? assuming that both are of equal size eh?