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JLD has achieved a very significant milestone today, as it welcome the first major tenant to JLD, AVA. And this marks the beginning of towering wave of job migration to JLD.
Next week, we will see another very important statutory board BCA moving into JLD, with both BCA and AVA occupying 8 floors of the 11 floor JEM office tower. And as some property analyst said, shifting of BCA to JLD will likely to attract architectural firm and developers moving to JLD, and this will mean more jobs.
And what else is on the horizon for 2015??
2015
* We will see the opening of the 5th mega shopping mall at JLD, ie. The BIG BOX
* We will see the opening of Genting Jurong Lake Hotel
* We will see the opening of Jurong Community Hospital and NTF General Hospital
* We will see another significant tenant CPG Corp moving to JLD Westgate Tower
* PM Lee and LTA will make the official announcement of HSR station in JLD
* LTA will announce the alignment of Jurong Regional Line and possibly Cross Island Line
* URA could possibly include a commercial white site for H22015 and this should form as part of the Jurong East ITH
* We will see intense competition among developers to bid for the JW St 41 site, and this will help boost or support the price of property around JLD.
* We will see the announcement of the Jurong Lake Garden master plan.
* We could possibly see the grand master plan for Singapore Science Center.. (the Jewel of Jurong Lake District)
So for owners and investors of properties around JLD, just sit back and enjoy the JLD transformation as there will be no shortage of jobs, investors and tenants looking for place to buy or rent in Jurong Lake District
BEWARE!!
BEWARE
Rennie Whang
The Straits Times
Sunday, Dec 14, 2014
The Agri-Food & Veterinary Authority of Singapore (AVA) and the Building and Construction Authority (BCA) will move to Jem in the Jurong Lake District in a couple of weeks.
The relocation is part of the Ministry of National Development's (MND) plans to move all its operations to the area.
It has a 30-year lease for 11 levels of office space at Jem, with a net lettable area of about 310,000 sq ft. Jem, a mixed-use development, also has 241 stores over six levels.
The AVA and BCA, two of the MND's statutory boards, will occupy eight floors with the other three to be sublet, an MND spokesman said. The MND is expected to eventually occupy those three floors.
The space vacated by AVA and BCA at the MND Complex in Maxwell will also be leased.
"There are no immediate plans to redevelop the existing MND Complex," she said.
The MND's relocation plans were announced in 2010, along with plans for the Ministry of the Environment and Water Resources and its statutory boards to make the move to Jurong.
OrangeTee research manager Wong Xian Yang said AVA and BCA's presence will boost the area as related firms such as architecture firms and developers may consider moving to Jurong East as well.
Other office space in the area includes Westgate Tower. Its developer, CapitaLand, was initially supposed to occupy about half the space but the plan was aborted last year. The 20-storey building, with about 305,000 sq ft of net lettable area, was sold in January for $579.4 million.
CPG Corporation, an infrastructure, building development and management services provider, has reportedly taken an 83,000 sq ft lease at Westgate Tower and will be moving in by the fourth quarter of next year.
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New steering committee to drive development plans for Jurong Lake District
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Notice the lack of MM supply in the WEST???
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Future jobs migration to the West.
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So white and commercial site at Jurong Gateway, but no residential site??
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Wunderkind
15-12-14, 18:54
Looks like possibly building a second CDB in the West. It will be difficult to get the kind of full-fledged condo in the area except those that are already existed now. If there is any more residential to build in the heart of Jurong Gateway, it is likely to be like those of Skysuites in Anson. Land will become prime in the next 5 to 10 years time.
So white and commercial site at Jurong Gateway, but no residential site??
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http://www.2venturedrive.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/masterplan-2008-JLD.png this canopy in Jurong link prepare for foreign workers. Dancing contest?
this canopy in Jurong link prepare for foreign workers. Dancing contest?
this place looks like an adult meeting place, for retirement citizens like R33 and foreign labors.
children no longer interested in traditional playground. today kids meet at cafe.
JLD, still long way to make things happen.
Wah! JLD got plot ratio 7.0!!! They really want to CRAMP so many people there! :cool-new:
Looks like JLD is on path to be the MOST CRAMPED and SQUEEZED up place in Singapore!
this place looks like an adult meeting place, for retirement citizens like R33 and foreign labors.
children no longer interested in traditional playground. today kids meet at cafe.
JLD, still long way to make things happen.
Juventus Soccer School has even started a branch in the WEST...
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Wanna guess where this is?
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Another important milestone for JLD...jobs jobs and more jobs.
The BCA will be moving to 52 Jurong Gateway Road, #11-01, Singapore 608550 [Map] on Monday, 22 December 2014. Our mainline 1800-3425 222 remains unchanged. We seek your understanding that BCA will be closed on Friday, 19 December 2014 (from 12.30pm) to prepare for the move
Chairman
Mr Quek See Tiat
Former Partner and Deputy Chairman, PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP, Singapore
Deputy Chairman
Mr Lee Fook Sun
President, Singapore Technologies Electronics Ltd
Board Members
Dr John Keung Kam Yin
Chief Executive Officer, Building and Construction Authority
Mr Lim Hua Ern, John
Director, Higher Education Division, Ministry of Education
Mr Pek Lian Guan
Managing Director, Tiong Seng Contractors Pte Ltd
Mr Norman Ip Ka Cheung
Chairman, WBL Corporation Ltd
Er Lai Huen Poh
Managing Director, RSP Architects Planners & Engineers Pte Ltd
Mr Frankie Chia Soo Hien
Managing Partner, BDO LLP
Mr Yong Tiam Yoon
Deputy Chairman, Woh Hup Pte Ltd
Mr Lim Ming Yan
President and Group Chief Executive Officer, CapitaLand Ltd
Mr Khairudin Saharom
Principal and Director, Kite Studio Architecture
Prof Heng Chye Kiang
Professor and Dean, School of Design and Environment, National University of Singapore
Ms Kala Anandarajah
GPartner, Rajah & Tann LLP
Mr Han Fook Kwang
Managing Editor, English & Malay Newspapers, Singapore Press Holdings Ltd
Wanna guess where this is?
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They are all window shoppers.
People here better know and avoid! You get CRUSHED DEAD also don't know why!
See here... (http://www.lowkayhwa.com/westgate-mall-ceiling-collapsed-jurong-curse-back/)
Westgate Mall ceiling collapsed: the “Jurong” curse is back?
If there’s one thing shopping centres next to Jurong East MRT Station needs to do, that would be to pray harder.
Yesterday (18 December 2014), a false ceiling failed and collapsed at around 3.30 p.m. on the fourth floor in Westgate. According to an eyewitness, the ceiling had started to leak water prior to the collapse; and when the rain got heavier, a small section gave way and broke. Almost three to four men were almost hit, but thank God they were not.
In case you’re unfamiliar with a building structure, a false ceiling is much like another ceiling below the real ceiling; between the “real” ceiling and a “false” ceiling, there lie wires, pipes and whatnot: stuff that are essential for the operations of the building. If you’re in an office now, just look up, for there’s a high chance that what you see is a false ceiling, and above that are full of wires and maybe some pipes.
If you’ve not been following the news about the “Jurong Shopping Centres curse”, these are the incidents that have happened:
In August 2013, two cases of fire occurred in Jem, another shopping mall next to Jurong East MRT Station. One occurred within an NTUC FairPrice while another in the car park.
Also in August 2013, a taxi caught fire outside JCube, the first shopping mall there
In September 2013, the false ceiling of JEM collapsed. This time, it’s a large piece and it injured three people
Currently, there are four shopping malls near Jurong East MRT Station: Jem, Westgate, JCube and the new Big Box.
Well, I believe Big Box must be crossing their fingers now as shopping centres near Tampines MRT Station smirk and think, “You think so easy to have so many malls next to a MRT station?”
Wanna guess where this is?
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Another mega project is about to open its door this week.
BEWARE!!
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9818 block 134 bus stop is a rubbish yard.
Here are 6 reasons Jurong, which used to be a swamp, will be an exciting place to live.
1. Jurong Lake Gardens
The Japanese Garden, Chinese Garden and Jurong Lake Park will be merged into a single set of gardens which PM Lee said will be a "people's garden" bigger than Bishan-Ang Mo Kio Park.
The 70-ha Jurong Lake Gardens will be a place where community gardeners can create and maintain "show gardens".
The lake will be reshaped and the gardens merged to "create one beautiful set of gardens in the heartland".
"Heritage elements at the Chinese and Japanese Garden will be retained but refreshed as part of Jurong Lake Gardens," wrote National Development Minister Khaw Boon Wan in his blog.
Residents can enjoy it as early as 2017, he added.
2. New Science Centre
A new Science Centre will be built on the north of the lake near the Chinese Garden MRT station to replace the 37-year-old attraction now sited at the south shore of the lake.
"Its location will enable NParks to integrate the future Science Centre with the new Gardens, combining themes such as science, technology and horticulture in a uniquely Singaporean way," Mr Khaw wrote in his blog.
Targeted for completion around 2020, it will have an entirely new concept and will be a "jewel" in Jurong.
3. Malls, malls and more malls
The Jurong Gateway is already a new commercial region with shopping malls such as J-Cube, Westgate and Jem.
The Big Box Warehouse Retail Outlet, which will house electronics and furniture companies as well as a hypermart, will open in 2015.
4. Institutions and hospitals
The Devan Nair Institute for Employment and Employability is situated in the area.
Other facilities such as Ng Teng Fong Hospital and Jurong Community Hospital will soon be completed.
5. Well-connected
The upcoming Jurong Region Line and Cross-Island Line, together with the improved North-South and East-West MRT lines, will improve traffic in the region.
The terminus for the Singapore-Kuala Lumpur High Speed Rail may even come to Jurong.
6. Lakeside housing
In the longer term, the Ayer Rajah Expressway could be shifted to create more space for lakeside housing, making it as pleasant as living near Bishan-Ang Mo Kio Park or Punggol Waterway.
Mr Lee's announcement has put the spotlight on the western part of Singapore. Property experts say developers might now take a closer look at the area and be willing to pay more for sites.
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/more-singapore-stories/story/6-reasons-jurong-will-be-truly-exciting-place-20140818#sthash.IVFt1yV2.dpuf
Here are 6 reasons Jurong, which used to be a swamp, will be an exciting place to live.
1. Jurong Lake Gardens
The Japanese Garden, Chinese Garden and Jurong Lake Park will be merged into a single set of gardens which PM Lee said will be a "people's garden" bigger than Bishan-Ang Mo Kio Park.
The 70-ha Jurong Lake Gardens will be a place where community gardeners can create and maintain "show gardens".
The lake will be reshaped and the gardens merged to "create one beautiful set of gardens in the heartland".
"Heritage elements at the Chinese and Japanese Garden will be retained but refreshed as part of Jurong Lake Gardens," wrote National Development Minister Khaw Boon Wan in his blog.
Residents can enjoy it as early as 2017, he added.
2. New Science Centre
A new Science Centre will be built on the north of the lake near the Chinese Garden MRT station to replace the 37-year-old attraction now sited at the south shore of the lake.
"Its location will enable NParks to integrate the future Science Centre with the new Gardens, combining themes such as science, technology and horticulture in a uniquely Singaporean way," Mr Khaw wrote in his blog.
Targeted for completion around 2020, it will have an entirely new concept and will be a "jewel" in Jurong.
3. Malls, malls and more malls
The Jurong Gateway is already a new commercial region with shopping malls such as J-Cube, Westgate and Jem.
The Big Box Warehouse Retail Outlet, which will house electronics and furniture companies as well as a hypermart, will open in 2015.
4. Institutions and hospitals
The Devan Nair Institute for Employment and Employability is situated in the area.
Other facilities such as Ng Teng Fong Hospital and Jurong Community Hospital will soon be completed.
5. Well-connected
The upcoming Jurong Region Line and Cross-Island Line, together with the improved North-South and East-West MRT lines, will improve traffic in the region.
The terminus for the Singapore-Kuala Lumpur High Speed Rail may even come to Jurong.
6. Lakeside housing
In the longer term, the Ayer Rajah Expressway could be shifted to create more space for lakeside housing, making it as pleasant as living near Bishan-Ang Mo Kio Park or Punggol Waterway.
Mr Lee's announcement has put the spotlight on the western part of Singapore. Property experts say developers might now take a closer look at the area and be willing to pay more for sites.
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/more-singapore-stories/story/6-reasons-jurong-will-be-truly-exciting-place-20140818#sthash.IVFt1yV2.dpuf
It had nothing to excites the people.
Another mega project is about to open its door this week.
BEWARE!!
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The Big Box has finally opened. Another new and important milestone for Jurong Lake District.
JLD is now like the Orchard Road of the West. 5 mega shopping mall within walking distance.
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SINGAPORE - Megastore Big Box drew a big crowd on Saturday when it opened its doors.
Eager shoppers flocked to Jurong East to experience shopping at the warehouse-like retail space.
Big Box spreads over three floors and features a hypermart, a fashion store, a home-improvement section and services from furniture to tyre-fitting.
Open daily, Big Box can be reached via the skybridges from JEM and Jurong East MRT
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/more-singapore-stories/story/big-box-draws-big-crowds-opening-day-20141227#sthash.eFYZYEtr.dpuf
It had nothing to excites the people.
I think it will be a huge regional centre for a particular strata of society. Great for businesses and landlords.
Many people in there looks foreign-looking. Cater for low and low-middle income foreigners?
Even hotels can be only at most 3-star.
I think it will be a huge regional centre for a particular strata of society. Great for businesses and landlords.
Many people in there looks foreign-looking. Cater for low and low-middle income foreigners?
Even hotels can be only at most 3-star.
Ringo always compare it to orchard road. But don't know which year he is referring to, 1980 or year 2014?
The Big Box has finally opened. Another new and important milestone for Jurong Lake District.
JLD is now like the Orchard Road of the West. 5 mega shopping mall within walking distance.
JLD like Orchard Rd? Does JLD malls have luxury branded stores? Oh....the operative word is 'like' lol.
Ringo always compare it to orchard road. But don't know which year he is referring to, 1980 or year 2014?
Er....I think whether it's 1980, 2014 or 2080....it will never be like Orchard Rd
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With shopping malls like JCube and Jem opening at Jurong East, the addition of Westgate will make this area the Orchard Road of the West.
The premier family and lifestyle mall Westgate will be opening its doors to shoppers on Monday, December 2, 2013, offering fashion, lifestyle and food and beverage brands originally exclusive to shopping malls in Orchard Road.
Hardcore shoppers who live in the West will be elated to know that fashion labels like Kate Spade Saturday, AIX Armani Exchange, Pandora, Sacoor Brothers and more will be opening at Westgate. For beauty junkies, French cosmetic brands Yves Rocher and L'Occitane will be opening at Westgate as well, so you do not have to travel all the way to town just to get your favourite cosmetics and beauty products.
Food will also be a huge part of the new mall opening at Jurong East. For those who love Japanese cuisine, 30 percent of the F&B stores at Westgate are Japanese restaurants, including Osaka Ohsho, Tonkatsu Ma Maison, Ippudo, Robata Robata, and even the Japanese supermarket Isetan.
To add to the hype, Borders bookstore will finally be returning to Singapore, opening a 8,000 square feet store on the fourth level of the mall.
Pop-up stores showcasing Singapore labels like The Emporium, Awol, Womb and online shop Modajar and more will also be featured for a limited period of time as well, so you do not want to miss shopping at these well-known local brands.
With all these stores and eateries set to open at Westgate, you do not need to travel to town just to experience city lifestyle and shopping. A fair, performances and huge discounts will be marking the opening of Westgate, so head down to the mall on December 2, 2013, to catch all the exciting activities.
Westgate is located at 2 Gateway Drive, Jurong East and will be opening on Monday, December 2, 2013. For more information about Westgate, visit its website at http://www.capitamallsasia.com/en/corporate/malls/singapore/westgate. You can also follow it on Facebook and Twitter.
- See more at: http://news.asiaone.com/news/diva/singapore-mall-westgate-opens-jurong-east#sthash.1gSU0BnK.dpuf
What to expect when they are even advertising JGateway as "LUXURY CONDO" in JURONG? No wonder there are brain-dead paying "LUXURY" price for JGateway!
JLD like Orchard Rd? Does JLD malls have luxury branded stores? Oh....the operative word is 'like' lol.
Many people in there looks foreign-looking. Cater for low and low-middle income foreigners?
Even hotels can be only at most 3-star.
Orchard - for High class
Novena - for Mid to Upper class
Jurong mall - for ?? class
Big Box look is like Gaint supermarket selling budget items!!
Orchard - for High class
Novena - for Mid to Upper class
Jurong mall - for ?? class
Big Box look is like Gaint supermarket selling budget items!!
R33, How to compete with city area? no way la.
Do you know why NTUC opens the bulk purchase warehouse near joo koon?
R33, How to compete with city area? no way la.
Do you know why NTUC opens the bulk purchase warehouse near joo koon?
i am saying the standard of the jurong malls cannot meet the city standard in terms of luxury.
i am saying the standard of the jurong malls cannot meet the city standard in terms of luxury.
i do not see any luxury standard at lucky plaza
i do not see any luxury standard at lucky plaza
opposite taka, next door paragon have so many luxury shops. kia le bo lui.
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can someone close this thread? things went out of hand. thank you.
So sunrise objective in this forum is pollute any thread he or she dont like and then ask moderator to close the thread?
HAHAHA......Moderator will be asking for trouble if people like this are not banned from this forum because anyone can easily create another 10 forum account tomorrow and start trolling nonsense and make this forum into a childish site.
Perhaps someone should consider setting up a new property forum where kids like sunrise will be banned instantly.
So sunrise objective in this forum is pollute any thread he or she dont like and then ask moderator to close the thread?
HAHAHA......Moderator will be asking for trouble if people like this are not banned from this forum because anyone can easily create another 10 forum account tomorrow and start trolling nonsense and make this forum into a childish site.
Perhaps someone should consider setting up a new property forum where kids like sunrise will be banned instantly.
you should walk into IMH and get your brain check! sicko.
you should walk into IMH and get your brain check! sicko.
I am very surprise that you can post so much nonsense in this forum for so many years and didnt get banned.
It seems like all your past activities are concentrated around trolling and nothing else.
BTW, whats you relationship with the moderator?
Owners of the West will be the lease to worry in today's challenging climate.
ST MONEY 3 Jan 2015
....Private home prices 'may fall by up to 8%'.....however Jurong Lake District could be the 'bright spark'...
...Property launches last year: What's HOT, what's NOT
HOT : Lake Life, The Hillford
Healthy : Coco Palms, Seventy Saints Patricks
Lukewarm : Highline Residences, Cluny Park Residence
Cool : Bellewoods, Sophia Hills
Owners of the West will be the lease to worry in today's challenging climate.
I thought you say jld is 2nd orchard. Mai Kia.
Owners of the West will be the lease to worry in today's challenging climate.
Lease to worry or least to worry?
Lease I think no problem, but targeted price might not be reached so easily. Hard to say also if the doctors and the mid level managers want a place to stay at their doorstep. Possible but not for sure.
Higher the rate of increase with be greater the fall in the downside market. You will know what I meant. Remember the law: Every action will have an equal and opposite reaction.
Lease to worry or least to worry?
Lease I think no problem, but targeted price might not be reached so easily. Hard to say also if the doctors and the mid level managers want a place to stay at their doorstep. Possible but not for sure.
I have never met anybody who can make real money following what has been advocated by journalists, analysts, or Ringo! :dog:
Owners of the West will be the lease to worry in today's challenging climate.
ST MONEY 3 Jan 2015
....Private home prices 'may fall by up to 8%'.....however Jurong Lake District could be the 'bright spark'...
...Property launches last year: What's HOT, what's NOT
HOT : Lake Life, The Hillford
Healthy : Coco Palms, Seventy Saints Patricks
Lukewarm : Highline Residences, Cluny Park Residence
Cool : Bellewoods, Sophia Hills
PM Lee just couldnt stop talking about JLD...
..... In the coming years, we will see new MRT lines, more trains, and more frequent train services, especially at peak hours. In our urban environment, we are creating special places in every corner of Singapore, from the Jurong Lake District to Mandai....
http://www.pmo.gov.sg/mediacentre/2015-new-year-message-prime-minister-lee-hsien-loong
Expect more big news coming up in the next 1 to 2 month......BEWARE it will be MASSIVE!!!
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Jurong is the new Orchard Road, what with the buzz of two new malls opening and other developments
Instead of making the hour-long journey to Orchard Road to do her festive shopping last month, student Caroline Phua took a 15-minute train ride to Jurong East Central.
Miss Phua, 20, who lives in Jurong West Street 91, shopped at Sephora, Accessorize, Muji and H&M in Jem and spent almost $200 on gifts for her friends and clothes for herself.
The Republic Polytechnic student, who also counts spa product boutique Mount Sapola and clothing and food retailer Marks & Spencer among her favourite stores at the mall, says: "I don't have to squeeze with the crowds in Orchard Road.
"For restaurants such as Paul and Tim Ho Wan, I'd rather give them a miss than queue for a seat in town. But now I don't have to queue for a long time as the eateries have opened in Westgate."
Like Miss Phua, other residents in Jurong are cheering the opening of two new malls in Jurong East - Westgate by CapitaMalls last month and Jem by Lend Lease in June last year. They join existing malls in the area, JCube and IMM, which are both owned by CapitaMalls, and Jurong is now being billed as the new Orchard Road.
The two new malls have direct access to the Jurong East Temporary Bus Interchange and Jurong East MRT station. They will also be linked to the upcoming Ng Teng Fong General Hospital and Jurong Community Hospital, which will open by next year.
The Big Box Warehouse Retail Outlet, which will house electronic product and furniture companies as well as a hypermart, will open next year.
These developments are part of the Urban Redevelopment Authority's Master Plan in 2008, which outlined plans to transform the 360ha Jurong Lake District - home to more than one million residents - for the next 10 to 15 years.
Jurong, once seen as the poorer cousin of Tampines because of its industrial estates, is enjoying an image overhaul, thanks to the new malls. Besides a wide range of retail brands, they also offer food and beverage outlets commonly found in Orchard Road.
Brand names such as popular dim sum restaurant Tim Ho Wan, Paul bakery and ramen restaurant Ippudo can be found at Westgate. The seven-storey mall also boasts the first Isetan supermarket outside Orchard Road. More upmarket fashion brands Cos, Coach and Kate Spade Saturday have also set up their first suburban outlets in Westgate.
A spokesman for Tim Ho Wan, which has three other outlets in Plaza Singapura, Bedok Mall and Toa Payoh Central, says: "Jurong is where residential and commercial clusters meet, so opening at Westgate allows us to serve residents and workers."
The Westgate outlet is doing well, she adds, ringing up sales that are comparable to those at the Plaza Singapura branch.
Ippudo Singapore decided to venture into the heartland after opening two restaurants in Mandarin Gallery and UE Square, and a Ramen Express outlet in Asia Square Tower 2, says its general manager Satoshi Matsuoka.
Lifestyle brand Spa Esprit has opened three concept stores in Westgate - Browhaus, Strip and its first Skinny Pizza outlet beyond the town area.
A Spa Esprit spokesman says: "Our initial strategy was to concentrate our outlets in Orchard Road, but we have moved to Tampines and Katong in the last two years. Westgate is near housing estates and offices, so there's a buzz in the area."
Over at the six-storey Jem, household names such as Robinsons, Sephora, Uniqlo and Books Kinokuniya are drawing the crowds.
On the success of the mall cluster in Jurong East, Mr Donald Han, managing director of Chesterton Singapore, says: "While Orchard Road malls tend to depend on tourist spending, suburban retailing has been fairly resilient despite challenging market conditions."
With more new retail destinations such as Westgate and Jem being built, people will tend to frequent these regional malls more often than going to Orchard Road, he adds.
"This is why we are seeing international brands such as Kate Spate Saturday venturing into suburban territory. This was unthinkable, say, 10 years ago."
Former IT trainer Nala Sundrum, who lives in Boon Lay Place, also did her Christmas shopping in Jem and Westgate. The malls are just a 15-minute bus ride from her home.
The 62-year-old now pops into Jem at least once a week.
Ms Sundrum, who used to shop in Orchard Road once a month, says: "Now that Isetan has opened at Westgate, I don't need to go to Orchard Road anymore.Once all the buildings in the area are completed, the whole Jurong area will be an Orchard Road."
Given the large student population in the west - including undergraduates from Nanyang Technological University and National University of Singapore- polytechnic student Phua hopes to see karaoke chains such as K Suites set up shop in the malls.
But with big crowds come the usual problems such as traffic and parking woes.
Retail manager Chen Binjuan, 29, says: "Parking is a problem now, and cars are jamming the roads. It would be great if electronic signboards can be put up to show carpark spaces available in thenearby carparks so that we don't have to wait too long if there are no spots available."
Both malls say they are monitoring the parking situation. At Jem, there are almost 740 lots for vehicles while the three malls under CapitaMalls have a total of more than 2,200 parking lots.
The malls are just the start of Jurong Lake District's developments, which will also see new housing blocks springing up.
Six Build-To-Order HDB projects were launched between 2012 and last year, which will add 4,480 flats to the Jurong Lake area. The 740-unit J Gateway condominium next to Jurong East MRT station also sold out at a near record price of up to $1,700 psf when it was launched last year.
Mr Han notes that while the area has "largely public housing", he projects that private housing will make up as much as 15 to 20 per cent of the residential mix in the next five to 10 years.
Genting Singapore, which owns Resorts World Sentosa, is also developing a 550- room hotel with a 24-hour deli. It is slated to open in the first half of next year.
Not everyone is buoyed by the changes though.
Business owners, especially smaller players, at the bus interchange, JCube and HDB shops in the area opposite the Jurong East MRT Station are starting to feel the heat.
Ms Michelle Lim, 50, a part-time stall assistant with San Ling Seafood in FoodClique coffee shop at Block 132 Jurong Gateway Road, says business has slowed down slightly.
But she is upbeat. "I don't think it will last very long. People can't eat expensive food at the malls all the time. We still get our regular office workers and residents who want good zi char food."
Mr Steve Tan, 27, director of fries kiosk What The Fries, which opened at JCube in April last year, says that while the two new malls have boosted traffic to the area around Jurong East, they have also lured some shoppers away from JCube.
But he notes that CapitaMalls has made efforts to offer promotions and discounts to entice people back to JCube.
Mr Chew Hock Chye, general manager of Westgate, JCube and IMM, says: "To increase our shopper traffic and sales, we will be producing a series of bi-monthly mailers that will feature our JCube retailers. There will also be a loyalty programme and more joint promotions across the three malls."
Indonesian-born stall assistant Naatini, who works at the Western Delights stall in Fu Chan Food Paradise coffee shop at Block 134 Jurong Gateway Road, is hopeful that traffic will spill over to the stall, which moved from Jurong Point's Banquet food court four months ago.
Ms Naatini, 39, who goes by one name, says: "Business is picking up slowly and we hope more customers realise that we have moved and our regulars will come to look for us. Most of the crowd is in the mall area, but more are coming to the HDB coffee shops to eat."
With the scene heating up, the area is also drawing residents from other parts of Singapore.
Woodlands resident Steven Ang, 39, prefers to take his family of four to the Jurong malls over those in Orchard Road.
He says: "The malls in town can be really crowded on weekends and we have to queue for a long time to dine at restaurants. I don't need so many brands anyway. The selection in Jurong is sufficient and I don't have to walk very far to get to the neighbouring malls."
Private tutor Adeline Tan, 26, who lives in Tiong Bahru, has been to Jem and Westgate twice each since they opened.
She says: "My friend lives in Jurong East, so we chose to meet here instead of going to the City Hall or Orchard Road areas. Tiong Bahru may have the hipster cafes, but Tiong Bahru Plaza has nothing much compared to the wide range of shopping and food available in Jurong."
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I'll focus on South followed by North!! Heeee ... :smug:
proud owner
04-01-15, 21:23
Orchard - for High class
Novena - for Mid to Upper class
Jurong mall - for ?? class
Big Box look is like Gaint supermarket selling budget items!!
to be fair ....
when I visited the malls in Jurong ... I was really impressed ...
big and spacious ... definitely a better place to hang around then Novena or that mall at katong ... so cramp ...
it definitely appears to me that something is cooking in the Jurong area ...
proud owner
04-01-15, 21:28
I thought you say jld is 2nd orchard. Mai Kia.
the Orchard part is reported in paper.... not him lah ....
What you saw is the hardware that is so easy to build and display (and to discard if necessary), but the software is even more important, and that is sorely lacking, like Ringo here.................... :02.47-tranquillity:
And oh by the way, no where else in Singapore can replace JURONG - as the only heavy industry town in Singapore.
to be fair ....
when I visited the malls in Jurong ... I was really impressed ...
big and spacious ... definitely a better place to hang around then Novena or that mall at katong ... so cramp ...
it definitely appears to me that something is cooking in the Jurong area ...
to be fair ....
when I visited the malls in Jurong ... I was really impressed ...
big and spacious ... definitely a better place to hang around then Novena or that mall at katong ... so cramp ...
it definitely appears to me that something is cooking in the Jurong area ...
Jurong lake district is perhaps the second biggest and important urban development project for ura at the moment. second to only marina bay. You can expect to see more mrt lines more attractions more officies more attractions more jobs moving into jld.
As tharman has said. With hsr jld could become the second cbd of singapore.
Jurong lake district is perhaps the second biggest and important urban development project for ura at the moment. second to only marina bay. You can expect to see more mrt lines more attractions more officies more attractions more jobs moving into jld.
As tharman has said. With hsr jld could become the second cbd of singapore.
You already repeat yourself thousand times, your voice travels across the straits, where do you want them to hit, alaska?
You already repeat yourself thousand times, your voice travels across the straits, where do you want them to hit, alaska?
I am very surprise that moderator in this forum can allow trolls likes you to survive in this forum for so long.
If you dont like what you read, just create your own thread. yes, CREATE YOUR OWN THREAD because have not seen a single thread by you.
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I am very surprise that moderator in this forum can allow trolls likes you to survive in this forum for so long.
If you dont like what you read, just create your own thread. yes, CREATE YOUR OWN THREAD because have not seen a single thread by you.
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buy so little and talk so much, real kiasu.
buy so little and talk so much, real kiasu.
Moderator, you should banned trolls like this or risk turning this forum into some mickey mouse playhouse.
I am pretty sure you are not going to attract many good site sponsors running a mickey mouse site.
Moderator, you should banned trolls like this or risk turning this forum into some mickey mouse playhouse.
I am pretty sure you are not going to attract many good site sponsors running a mickey mouse site.
this thread "telling readers to beware" should be permanently lock.
this thread "telling readers to beware" should be permanently lock.
sunrise,
It was locked. By the moderator as it was of no value - reporter2's words , not mine.
After a few days spamming other threads and basically turning them into no value threads such as his beloved BEWARE thread - I'm guessing due to some withdrawal symptom he recreated it again
And yet he amusingly calls for people to be banned. Given that he has since recreated a thread that the moderator has locked - which kind of indicates he doesn't understand or accept the moderators authority - you have to wonder how he is not the one being banned
pm reporter2 if you want - see what he has to say on the matter.
If he does get banned he won't come back as a clone given how much he has berated everyone - truly or falsely - he has accused of being a clone.
He will be gone forever - if he has any personal integrity..........
I personally dont mind him. Where else can you get such amusement for free. Not since the rambling days of Basic have we been treated to such hilarity as the way this fellow carries on.
sunrise,
It was locked. By the moderator as it was of no value - reporter2's words , not mine.
After a few days spamming other threads and basically turning them into no value threads such as his beloved BEWARE thread - I'm guessing due to some withdrawal symptom he recreated it again
And yet he amusingly calls for people to be banned. Given that he has since recreated a thread that the moderator has locked - which kind of indicates he doesn't understand or accept the moderators authority - you have to wonder how he is not the one being banned
pm reporter2 if you want - see what he has to say on the matter.
If he does get banned he won't come back as a clone given how much he has berated everyone - truly or falsely - he has accused of being a clone.
He will be gone forever - if he has any personal integrity..........
I personally dont mind him. Where else can you get such amusement for free. Not since the rambling days of Basic have we been treated to such hilarity as the way this fellow carries on.
this guy r33 is going to be a big bully when gateway opens. pity those living around him. i somehow feel he is related to basic.
sunrise,
It was locked. By the moderator as it was of no value - reporter2's words , not mine.
After a few days spamming other threads and basically turning them into no value threads such as his beloved BEWARE thread - I'm guessing due to some withdrawal symptom he recreated it again
And yet he amusingly calls for people to be banned. Given that he has since recreated a thread that the moderator has locked - which kind of indicates he doesn't understand or accept the moderators authority - you have to wonder how he is not the one being banned
pm reporter2 if you want - see what he has to say on the matter.
If he does get banned he won't come back as a clone given how much he has berated everyone - truly or falsely - he has accused of being a clone.
He will be gone forever - if he has any personal integrity..........
I personally dont mind him. Where else can you get such amusement for free. Not since the rambling days of Basic have we been treated to such hilarity as the way this fellow carries on.
Stop all the flowery big talking lah. Property 101? All Fart No Shit??
Moderator, see link hor. All Fart No Shit is from EBD, not from me..
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/18201-Owners-in-the-West-beware!!/page116?p=416275#post416275
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/20080-I-dedicate-this-song-to-all-the-carrotheads-in-the-current-market/page9?p=458491#post458491
this guy r33 is going to be a big bully when gateway opens. pity those living around him. i somehow feel he is related to basic.
We all can see you are spending too much time trolling in this thread and forum.
Just see for yourself how many useless childish and pointless post have you posted in this forum or should I said this THREAD, for the past few years.
If you dont like the West, then start a thread of the EAST lah. why must always go around posting nonsense and talking shit??
Is this a case of ALL FART NO SHIT (EBD) seeking attention?
http://forums.condosingapore.com/search.php?searchid=97054
A HSR terminus in Jurong Lake District will most likely rigger off another round of new development and construction projects
Considering the pace of transformation since 2008, I believe the entire landscape and skyline of JLD could change dramatically
in the next 10 years. Exciting times for people living in the West.
That is what I call "no software"... :glee:
this guy r33 is going to be a big bully when gateway opens. pity those living around him. i somehow feel he is related to basic.
Then in the next 10-20 years, Exciting times will be shifted to be for people living in the North or East? (and the West forgotten?)
Keeping shifting and everywhere in Singapore will huat anywhere, may be more so than JLD (since JLD is the only town in Singapore that is in the 1 AND ONLY heavy industry town!) :glee:
A HSR terminus in Jurong Lake District will most likely rigger off another round of new development and construction projects
Considering the pace of transformation since 2008, I believe the entire landscape and skyline of JLD could change dramatically
in the next 10 years. Exciting times for people living in the West.
Actually it's a pity that over-eager fervour for one particular area and segment and overselling that led to disgust and disdain from others.
Jurong East itself has its own merits as well although not all like the area - I for one because of the expected crowd.
We also should recognise the relative value against one another and not overly push for or against one area or one segment.
How I miss the intellectually stimulating discussions just a few years ago...
URA....today Jurong Lake District is one of the most most exciting development project in Singapore...
http://www.eco-business.com/videos/faster-better-urban-planning-3d-technology/
Property investors and home buyer should listen from the horse mouth
this guy r33 is going to be a big bully when gateway opens. pity those living around him. i somehow feel he is related to basic.
I doubt it - he has already posted before he intends to rent it out to as many people as possible as some kind of condormitory.
btw you can still see basic in action over on sgtalk.org market section under the name of century. Completely mad.
Actually it's a pity that over-eager fervour for one particular area and segment and overselling that led to disgust and disdain from others.
Jurong East itself has its own merits as well although not all like the area - I for one because of the expected crowd.
We also should recognise the relative value against one another and not overly push for or against one area or one segment.
How I miss the intellectually stimulating discussions just a few years ago...
I agree. As an owner in the west myself I don't think he's done me any favours.
There are good things about it, there are also bad things about it. But the hysterics he created here is ridiculous , starting with the word BEWARE - which if you look at any english dictionary "To be on guard against; be cautious of:" is a negative sentiment.
All areas are OK for me. Most important is not overpaying for where & what you are buying, a concept R33 to this day seems to be puzzled by hence why he constantly brings up "worst house, best street" without ANY understanding of what it means. He thinks its an actual address with a postcode - rather than a philosphy of getting the most value you possibly can for any given area.
I agree with the quality of discussion a couple of years ago.... certainly gone downhill since a certain someone joined here.
Then in the next 10-20 years, Exciting times will be shifted to be for people living in the North or East? (and the West forgotten?)
Keeping shifting and everywhere in Singapore will huat anywhere, may be more so than JLD (since JLD is the only town in Singapore that is in the 1 AND ONLY heavy industry town!) :glee:
Of course its possible, however its the timing to ride the momentum that is important. If you cant expect to see return in 4 to 5 years, then better dont invest.
If I am looking for investment property, I would rather have heavy industry with big tenant pool to keep my rental property occupied than to have it somewhere where I struggle to find tenant.
For own stay, it will be personal choice or depending where you grow up.
Well he's changed his customer status to "Banned". Don't get your hopes up - he's done this before, very childish & 100% predictable response.
Mind blowingly predictable.
I suppose the only way of him to be original now is to continue this terribly orchestrated subterfuge forever.
I agree. As an owner in the west myself I don't think he's done me any favours.
There are good things about it, there are also bad things about it. But the hysterics he created here is ridiculous , starting with the word BEWARE - which if you look at any english dictionary "To be on guard against; be cautious of:" is a negative sentiment.
All areas are OK for me. Most important is not overpaying for where & what you are buying, a concept R33 to this day seems to be puzzled by hence why he constantly brings up "worst house, best street" without ANY understanding of what it means. He thinks its an actual address with a postcode - rather than a philosphy of getting the most value you possibly can for any given area.
I agree with the quality of discussion a couple of years ago.... certainly gone downhill since a certain someone joined here.
actually I agree with EBD. we are all investors. we don't have to go extreme to sell 'medicine' about JLD and in some way ridicule other locations. if I read r33 correctly, he is vested in Jgateway, but a lot of us are vested in many units of Jgateway added up.. but we do not go round 24x7 selling medicine .. just the word Beware is good enough.
Well he's changed his customer status to "Banned". Don't get your hopes up - he's done this before, very childish & 100% predictable response.
Mind blowingly predictable.
I suppose the only way of him to be original now is to continue this terribly orchestrated subterfuge forever.
Not trying to be kaypoh here, but I notice your forum activities in the past months are only limited to specific topic that are not related to property discussion but mud slinging.
Regarding on the subject of property 101, I have to disagree with that statement actually because over the past 50 years, the urban landscape in Singapore is constantly evolving and you can obviously see that if you compare the current Jurong Lake District to Jurong East 10 of 15 years ago.
actually I agree with EBD. we are all investors. we don't have to go extreme to sell 'medicine' about JLD and in some way ridicule other locations. if I read r33 correctly, he is vested in Jgateway, but a lot of us are vested in many units of Jgateway added up.. but we do not go round 24x7 selling medicine .. just the word Beware is good enough.
Actually I find his thread very informative and I am sure many here will agree too. And I dont see anything wrong to post news about Jurong Lake District development.
if you dont like, just look away, thats no need to be upset or get into a fight
Of course its possible, however its the timing to ride the momentum that is important. If you cant expect to see return in 4 to 5 years, then better dont invest.
If I am looking for investment property, I would rather have heavy industry with big tenant pool to keep my rental property occupied than to have it somewhere where I struggle to find tenant.
For own stay, it will be personal choice or depending where you grow up.
Depends really. Will need to know the type of tenants available. Conceptually, richer industry can pay more.
Budget HDB for the big heavy industrial tenant pool who share flat.
Premium HDB/Condo for the middle class white collars with family who rent the whole unit.
Premium Condos for the higher end white collar expats.
Many (Not all) that can afford nicer place works in CCR Grade A offices, maybe some will be at Changi Business Park/Seletar Aerospace Park, and only a handful at Jurong/Tuas and other misc locations ...
In short, understanding the real demand, and offering the right supply will be the winning formula.
Depends really. Will need to know the type of tenants available. Conceptually, richer industry can pay more.
Budget HDB for the big heavy industrial tenant pool who share flat.
Premium HDB/Condo for the middle class white collars with family who rent the whole unit.
Premium Condos for the higher end white collar expats.
Many (Not all) that can afford nicer place works in CCR Grade A offices, maybe some will be at Changi Business Park/Seletar Aerospace Park, and only a handful at Jurong/Tuas and other misc locations ...
In short, understanding the real demand, and offering the right supply will be the winning formula.
My elder brother has got a few private properties in D22, he is current renting out to expat tenants with kids studying around bukit batok, Jurong East and west coast area. Yield is very good and never have problem finding tenants. tenant mix around the area have changed a lot ever since Canadian International School move to Jurong East. I used to live in that area so I know the place very well. Considering the number of big organizations moving to Jurong Lake, I believe in the coming years, demand could potential outpace supply.
The rental at Westgate Tower is not cheap actually. The last time my boss told me was around $7psf. From what I read, CPG Corporation, Just Office, Lockheed Martin, United Overseas Bank, MEA Technologies, Future Lab and Joss Offshore are all moving into Westgate tower this year.
You missed the most important point - that is, are TOP SALARY people who are working there going to live in JURONG, the 1 and ONLY heavy industry town in Singapore?
If not, then the support for rental is not strong in JURONG.
Your brother too inexperience landlord and has not seen the 1998 type of recession yet...............
My elder brother has got a few private properties in D22, he is current renting out to expat tenants with kids studying around bukit batok, Jurong East and west coast area. Yield is very good and never have problem finding tenants. tenant mix around the area have changed a lot ever since Canadian International School move to Jurong East. I used to live in that area so I know the place very well. Considering the number of big organizations moving to Jurong Lake, I believe in the coming years, demand could potential outpace supply.
The rental at Westgate Tower is not cheap actually. The last time my boss told me was around $7psf. From what I read, CPG Corporation, Just Office, Lockheed Martin, United Overseas Bank, MEA Technologies, Future Lab and Joss Offshore are all moving into Westgate tower this year.
My elder brother has got a few private properties in D22, he is current renting out to expat tenants with kids studying around bukit batok, Jurong East and west coast area. Yield is very good and never have problem finding tenants. tenant mix around the area have changed a lot ever since Canadian International School move to Jurong East. I used to live in that area so I know the place very well. Considering the number of big organizations moving to Jurong Lake, I believe in the coming years, demand could potential outpace supply.
The rental at Westgate Tower is not cheap actually. The last time my boss told me was around $7psf. From what I read, CPG Corporation, Just Office, Lockheed Martin, United Overseas Bank, MEA Technologies, Future Lab and Joss Offshore are all moving into Westgate tower this year.
West Coast is indeed a nice area.
Hopefully, foreign MNCs still retain Singapore as the HQ and they don't localize their management team. You need expats and foreigners to support the rental market so not much contribution from local organizations.
Btw, just curious, are your brother's tenants Indians?
You missed the most important point - that is, are TOP SALARY people who are working there going to live in JURONG, the 1 and ONLY heavy industry town in Singapore?
If not, then the support for rental is not strong in JURONG.
Your brother too inexperience landlord and has not seen the 1998 type of recession yet...............
That one is painful. 6-7 years of holding power needed.
You missed the most important point - that is, are TOP SALARY people who are working there going to live in JURONG, the 1 and ONLY heavy industry town in Singapore?
If not, then the support for rental is not strong in JURONG.
Your brother too inexperience landlord and has not seen the 1998 type of recession yet...............
From what I was told, some of his tenants are senior managers working in Tanjong Pagar and Tuas area. IIRC he once told me they are from shipping, pharmaceutical industry or something. But my agent friend also told me most tenants living around those area mostly those with a housing budget between $4,000 to $7000 per month. So you are right, they are not top salary people with >$10k housing budget type.
Having said that, I have got a friend who actually rent out his apartment in Lakeshore to live in D10 because of his son's school, and he was telling me that the rent he is collecting from Lakeshore is more than enough to pay for his rental at D10. At first I didnt believe him, but when I check the URA transaction then I realize the rental potential in that area.
Take Nov 14, a 4 bedder in Lakeshore was rented out for $6500 per month and thats is not even the penthouse, that only 1400-1500sqft. I reckon whoever that landlord is, with $6500 rental income, he or she can easily afford to live in a big apartment in D10. Maybe even the recently TOP dleedon?
When it is too good to be true, it really is too good to be true lah! Very simple!
I have rented out my units at like $2k per month more than my neighbours before. Everybody clapped and saying so good rents blah blah blah...
So, shhhh, but I tell you the secret: I throw in $24k cash for the tenants to buy any furniture and touch up they want.... That is how we get super above market rate rentals.... Shhh, don't tell other people hor! :sour:
From what I was told, some of his tenants are senior managers working in Tanjong Pagar and Tuas area. IIRC he once told me they are from shipping, pharmaceutical industry or something. But my agent friend also told me most tenants living around those area mostly those with a housing budget between $4,000 to $7000 per month. So you are right, they are not top salary people with >$10k housing budget type.
Having said that, I have got a friend who actually rent out his apartment in Lakeshore to live in D10 because of his son's school, and he was telling me that the rent he is collecting from Lakeshore is more than enough to pay for his rental at D10. At first I didnt believe him, but when I check the URA transaction then I realize the rental potential in that area.
Take Nov 14, a 4 bedder in Lakeshore was rented out for $6500 per month and thats is not even the penthouse, that only 1400-1500sqft. I reckon whoever that landlord is, with $6500 rental income, he or she can easily afford to live in a big apartment in D10. Maybe even the recently TOP dleedon?
West Coast is indeed a nice area.
Hopefully, foreign MNCs still retain Singapore as the HQ and they don't localize their management team. You need expats and foreigners to support the rental market so not much contribution from local organizations.
Btw, just curious, are your brother's tenants Indians?
Foreign MNC (especially those non British and American) will usually retained some of their own people in senior management role for reporting purpose due to language and culture barrier. IIRC none of his tenants are actually Indians, they are mostly Caucasian from Norway, British, German, Japanese, American and once a Singaporean family.
When it is too good to be true, it really is too good to be true lah! Very simple!
I have rented out my units at like $2k per month more than my neighbours before. Everybody clapped and saying so good rents blah blah blah...
So, shhhh, but I tell you the secret: I throw in $24k cash for the tenants to buy any furniture and touch up they want.... That is how we get super above market rate rentals.... Shhh, don't tell other people hor! :sour:
Do you mean you have to spend $24k to furnish and do up the place or do you give the tenant $24k in cash to spend as they like? But how do you ensure they dont break lease after say 6 months or something?
My friend told me that rent at Lakeshore is really super good, its comparable to what you might get in RCR or even CCR apartment. I reckon it could be due to its proximity to international school. e.g 3 bedder could command as high as $4700 per month.
Wow...Lakefront Residence is now setting the standard in JLD.
2 penthouses were transacted at $7800 and $8400 per month in Sep 2014.
3 bedder 1000-1100sqft $5450 in Nov 2014.
Wow...Lakefront Residence is now setting the standard in JLD.
2 penthouses were transacted at $7800 and $8400 per month in Sep 2014.
3 bedder 1000-1100sqft $5450 in Nov 2014.
just did a propertyguru search. 7 to 9k, min 2000sqft, district 9 and 10.
665 properties found.
I think ringo33 is right about the JLD potential.
Foreign MNC (especially those non British and American) will usually retained some of their own people in senior management role for reporting purpose due to language and culture barrier. IIRC none of his tenants are actually Indians, they are mostly Caucasian from Norway, British, German, Japanese, American and once a Singaporean family.
I understand what you mean, but the current trending is localization, or converting the expat to local package once they obtain the PR.
I just view white collar foreign indians as up and coming, having good budget and purchasing power ... :D
I understand what you mean, but the current trending is localization, or converting the expat to local package once they obtain the PR.
I just view white collar foreign indians as up and coming, having good budget and purchasing power ... :D
Indians generally prefer the East to West. Those with low budget will choose places like Simei and tampines, those with more budget will chose D15. When Overseas Family School moves to the East, you will see even more Indian moving in that direction.
Having said that, there are also many landlord in Singapore who prefer not to rent out to Indians due to various reasons.
Wow...Lakefront Residence is now setting the standard in JLD.
2 penthouses were transacted at $7800 and $8400 per month in Sep 2014.
3 bedder 1000-1100sqft $5450 in Nov 2014.
hmm what do you make of these rental numbers :
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,450 900 to 1000 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,350 900 to 1000 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 900 to 1000 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,200 900 to 1000 Nov-14
I *think* 3k plus is more like typical expected rental. in line with other projects.
Not trying to be kaypoh here, but I notice your forum activities in the past months are only limited to specific topic that are not related to property discussion but mud slinging.
Regarding on the subject of property 101, I have to disagree with that statement actually because over the past 50 years, the urban landscape in Singapore is constantly evolving and you can obviously see that if you compare the current Jurong Lake District to Jurong East 10 of 15 years ago.
Then as you are kaypoh dig a bit further and you will understand why many people on this board have been dealing with this individual very robustly.
Better to do more research than wade into someone else's fight half way with a poor understanding and start to comment.
They are also clearly not only limited to "mudslinging" as you call it.
I suggest you use google to figure out what I am talking about. I did not invent this view on property. It's also clearly not what you think.
There are quite a few 3 bedder going at >$5K, I believe the big disparity could be due to facing. eg MRT track vs lake view.
to be honest I very much doubt it. This ad is facing the lake and is asking 3.8k:
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/18567599/for-rent-the-lakefront-residences
In fact if you do a listing of all rental ads with this size, no one is even *asking* 5k rent.
The 5.4k recorded must be of some very special cases. To me 3k plus is exactly what the market is. Dun get too excited by the 5k numbers.
to be honest I very much doubt it. This ad is facing the lake and is asking 3.8k:
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/18567599/for-rent-the-lakefront-residences
In fact if you do a listing of all rental ads with this size, no one is even *asking* 5k rent.
The 5.4k recorded must be of some very special cases. To me 3k plus is exactly what the market is. Dun get too excited by the 5k numbers.
5k can choose to live in many parts of singapore. avoid biten by lake alligators and heavy industries fume.
Exceptional cases are possible if the rent includes utilities and rented to 9 separate individuals. Each pay $600 and on the aircon 24hrs, no deposit required. Some other possibilities to inflate the isolated figure but not appropriate to discuss here.
to be honest I very much doubt it. This ad is facing the lake and is asking 3.8k:
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/18567599/for-rent-the-lakefront-residences
In fact if you do a listing of all rental ads with this size, no one is even *asking* 5k rent.
The 5.4k recorded must be of some very special cases. To me 3k plus is exactly what the market is. Dun get too excited by the 5k numbers.
I would prefer to comment of actually transaction data rather than speculation.
If you look at URA transaction record, there is actually a few 3 bedders unit that were transacted at >$5k in 2014 and also the penthouse that was rented out at $8.4k. And if you check the URA website, the median rent for Lakefront Residence is about $44 psm, which is around $4.1psf. So for a 1000sqft 3 bedder, the median rent should be around $4.1k.
I am sure in every development, there will sure be some special cases of say fully furnished, free internet and aircon servicing etc. Even if you throw in all those freebies, >$5k for a 1000 sqft 3 bedder in D22 is still very decent. For the price, you could even get a larger unit in D10.
Exceptional cases are possible if the rent includes utilities and rented to 9 separate individuals. Each pay $600 and on the aircon 24hrs, no deposit required. Some other possibilities to inflate the isolated figure but not appropriate to discuss here.
In order for URA to capture the rent transaction, I presume the TA will have to send to IRAS for stamping.
So technically speaking, those high rental transaction cant be rented out to separate individual?
The $5450 per month one copied my tactic of throwing in upfront cash of $24,000 for furnishing??? :tongue-new:
hmm what do you make of these rental numbers :
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,450 900 to 1000 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,350 900 to 1000 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 900 to 1000 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,200 900 to 1000 Nov-14
I *think* 3k plus is more like typical expected rental. in line with other projects.
Actually I know why - may be because of another reason...
I heard that recently, many of these OCR condos with abnormally high rental are rented out with "cash-back". What is it?
Very simple, the tenant chose the unit and their company pay (as corporate lease) BUT the owner/agent give cash back to the tenant living in the units directly (under table!!!... :disgust:
I would prefer to comment of actually transaction data rather than speculation.
If you look at URA transaction record, there is actually a few 3 bedders unit that were transacted at >$5k in 2014 and also the penthouse that was rented out at $8.4k. And if you check the URA website, the median rent for Lakefront Residence is about $44 psm, which is around $4.1psf. So for a 1000sqft 3 bedder, the median rent should be around $4.1k.
I am sure in every development, there will sure be some special cases of say fully furnished, free internet and aircon servicing etc. Even if you throw in all those freebies, >$5k for a 1000 sqft 3 bedder in D22 is still very decent. For the price, you could even get a larger unit in D10.
Indians generally prefer the East to West. Those with low budget will choose places like Simei and tampines, those with more budget will chose D15. When Overseas Family School moves to the East, you will see even more Indian moving in that direction.
Having said that, there are also many landlord in Singapore who prefer not to rent out to Indians due to various reasons.
Both my tenants are Indians, they seem fine really.
In order for URA to capture the rent transaction, I presume the TA will have to send to IRAS for stamping.
So technically speaking, those high rental transaction cant be rented out to separate individual?
It can be done. 1 master tenant, X no. of tenants.
When there are other units in the same vicinity and other developments nearby at a much lower price, it is irrational to ask to pay more unless there are special concessions to tenants or there are special advantages to over declare.
It can be done. 1 master tenant, X no. of tenants.
When there are other units in the same vicinity and other developments nearby at a much lower price, it is irrational to ask to pay more unless there are special concessions to tenants or there are special advantages to over declare.
I believe there could be exceptional cases, but I doubt thats the case for Lakefront Residence that just TOP a few months back.
Here are a list of rental transaction for similar size 3 bedder. I believe the disparity is due to facing and furnishing rather than renting out to individual tenant.
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,400 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,200 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,750 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,900 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,900 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,450 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 5,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,900 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,200 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,300 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,400 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,300 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 5,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,300 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,850 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,550 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,250 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,400 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,850 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,300 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,350 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,200 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,700 1100 to 1200 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1100 to 1200 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1100 to 1200 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1100 to 1200 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1100 to 1200 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1200 to 1300 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,100 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,700 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,600 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,650 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1200 to 1300 Jun-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,100 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,100 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,550 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
Did you notice something, that is: Lakefront 1200-1300 sqft units were commanding rental almost similar to 1000-1100 sqft? Any particular reason? If you take an average, Lakefront 1200-1300 sqft rental is about $3.2 psf pm isn't it?
I believe there could be exceptional cases, but I doubt thats the case for Lakefront Residence that just TOP a few months back.
Here are a list of rental transaction for similar size 3 bedder. I believe the disparity is due to facing and furnishing rather than renting out to individual tenant.
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,400 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,200 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,750 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,900 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,900 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,450 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 5,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,900 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,200 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,300 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,400 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 4,300 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 5,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,300 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,850 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,550 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,250 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,400 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,850 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,500 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,300 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,350 1000 to 1100 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1000 to 1100 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,200 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,000 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1000 to 1100 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,800 1000 to 1100 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 2 3,700 1100 to 1200 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1100 to 1200 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,400 1100 to 1200 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1100 to 1200 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1100 to 1200 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,600 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,700 1200 to 1300 Nov-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,100 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,700 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,300 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,800 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,600 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 3,650 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1200 to 1300 Jun-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties 3 5,100 1200 to 1300 Oct-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,500 1200 to 1300 Sep-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,000 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,100 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,200 1200 to 1300 Jul-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 4,550 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES LAKESIDE DRIVE 22 Non-landed Properties na* 3,500 1200 to 1300 Aug-14
I am surprise that this development has so large unit but so low rent in terms of $/psf:
Extracted from URA site [THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES, 3 bedder, $5,000 Size: 2000 to 2100 Nov-14]
Can anyone confirmed?
Hmm like that also can?
To be fair take the average rental instead of the outliner on extreme ends over a period of time for any development. Otherwise close one eye take highest for any condo can scream ice-cream
ALTEZ ENGGOR STREET 02 Non-landed Properties 1 4,500 500 to 600 Nov-14
Like that huat already?
Actually that's not the highest got 4.65k per month and the average rental is 4k.
I am surprise that this development has so large unit but so low rent in terms of $/psf:
Extracted from URA site [THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES, 3 bedder, $5,000 Size: 2000 to 2100 Nov-14]
Can anyone confirmed?
3 bedroom penthouse ?
Think they rent by the room? That is why 3 bedders command $5000 (regardless of size in SQFT).
Similarly, 1200-1300 sqft commands same rent as 1000-1100 sqft because both only have 3 rooms, and all command rental of about $3500-5000.
I am surprise that this development has so large unit but so low rent in terms of $/psf:
Extracted from URA site [THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES, 3 bedder, $5,000 Size: 2000 to 2100 Nov-14]
Can anyone confirmed?
Hmm like that also can?
To be fair take the average rental instead of the outliner on extreme ends over a period of time for any development. Otherwise close one eye take highest for any condo can scream ice-cream
ALTEZ ENGGOR STREET 02 Non-landed Properties 1 4,500 500 to 600 Nov-14
Like that huat already?
Actually that's not the highest got 4.65k per month and the average rental is 4k.
Thats correct. Thats why I say using URA median rent is the best indicator.
Median rent $psm from URA
THE LAKEFRONT RESIDENCES $37.63 $43.94 $48.78
Wow...Lakefront Residence is now setting the standard in JLD.
2 penthouses were transacted at $7800 and $8400 per month in Sep 2014.
3 bedder 1000-1100sqft $5450 in Nov 2014.
What you posted appeared to suggest that outliers instead of the median should be used to set the standard for JLD. Highly misleading.
What you posted appeared to suggest that outliers instead of the median should be used to set the standard for JLD. Highly misleading.
I have highlighted both actually, the median from URA database as well as record rent for D22 condo
I could be wrong, but I do believe $8.4k per month is the highest ever transacted for D22.
Missed Ring33 posting updating on News regarding to JLD
A suggestion to Moderator
TS be given the "feature" to delete posting he deems not appropriate or provoking
Missed Ring33 posting updating on News regarding to JLD
A suggestion to Moderator
TS be given the "feature" to delete posting he deems not appropriate or provoking
The other day I passed by chinese garden....it looks loke little india instead...can jld really be the next great place.....I also wonder why so many indian tenant these days....all the jobs really cant find talents to fill....the educational level higher than singapore? Its really unusual.
Missed Ring33 posting updating on News regarding to JLD
A suggestion to Moderator
TS be given the "feature" to delete posting he deems not appropriate or provoking
In many forum, usually its the TS or the moderators themselves who will do the "spring cleaning".
I think skyscraper city is one of them.
btw, who are the moderators in this forum?
The other day I passed by chinese garden....it looks loke little india instead...can jld really be the next great place.....I also wonder why so many indian tenant these days....all the jobs really cant find talents to fill....the educational level higher than singapore? Its really unusual.
I felt a bit uneasy too pertaining to too many foreigners in our land, not only in Chinese Garden
but guess this is the way of life in a modern city where government are opening its immigration gate
when birth rate fall below the rate of replacing itself, therefore it is not unusual
Look at Europe, particularly in Sweden, France and Germany
Now these countries are having lots of troubles with the migrants
Just hope that it will not happen to Singapore
Not a good idea because what if TS like Ringo33 posting "rubbish" and making slander and insulting remarks on others and yet he can carry on as he like just because he is the TS? :rolleyes:
Missed Ring33 posting updating on News regarding to JLD
A suggestion to Moderator
TS be given the "feature" to delete posting he deems not appropriate or provoking
Not a good idea because what if TS like Ringo33 posting "rubbish" and making slander and insulting remarks on others and yet he can carry on as he like just because he is the TS? :rolleyes:
I do not find his posting rubbish but rather unselfish sharing and informative ...
Many of his views may differ from a few here but that does not mean he is wrong
In a social forum, learn to agree to disagree and respect each other
Not a good idea because what if TS like Ringo33 posting "rubbish" and making slander and insulting remarks on others and yet he can carry on as he like just because he is the TS? :rolleyes:
During my short time in this forum, I have already seen you making several groundless comment which I find it hard to accept.
You mention to polo that ringo was a clone of someone in 2009. Who is that someone and how are you so sure they are the same person?
A few forummers here, include you, claim to know what ringo bought, the size of his apartment and also the psf he paid for it, and then call him a sucker. Where did you guys get all these information from?
Didnt you just make an insulting remarks yourself?
In many forum, usually its the TS or the moderators themselves who will do the "spring cleaning".
I think skyscraper city is one of them.
btw, who are the moderators in this forum?
Think the moderator is none other than the Owner of this Forum himself
Reporter2
in other forum that I had used to visit
The thread starter has this special feature to delete posting he or she thinks
are insidious
People can have different views, but when he started the personal attack (which he did) without any basis and trying to put words into other people's mouth (and he can't show evidence to justify what he insisted), that is another story altogether. It means that person is a liar, and have no integrity and moral character, a scam-bag!
I do not find his posting rubbish but rather unselfish sharing and informative ...
Many of his views may differ from a few here but that does not mean he is wrong
In a social forum, learn to agree to disagree and respect each other
During your short time in this forum, and you do not know head nor tail, and you are siding all the way that scam-bag????????????? :hopelessness:
If you want to know all about what happened, if you are honorable and want to base on facts, then please take the effort to read back all those posts, especially you can search for Ringo, and see how he started all those personal attack and trying to put words into other people's mouth and he can't show evidence to justify what he insisted.
The evidence is all over in this forum that proved that Ringo33 is a liar, and have no integrity and moral character, a real scam-bag!
During my short time in this forum, I have already seen you making several groundless comment which I find it hard to accept.
You mention to polo that ringo was a clone of someone in 2009. Who is that someone and how are you so sure they are the same person?
A few forummers here, include you, claim to know what ringo bought, the size of his apartment and also the psf he paid for it, and then call him a sucker. Where did you guys get all these information from?
Didnt you just make an insulting remarks yourself?
People can have different views, but when he started the personal attack (which he did) without any basis and trying to put words into other people's mouth (and he can't show evidence to justify what he insisted), that is another story altogether. It means that person is a liar, and have no integrity and moral character, a scam-bag!
Am surprised by your allegation
have been here long enough to discern
Date joined Jan 2009
During your short time in this forum, and you do not know head nor tail, and you are siding all the way that scam-bag????????????? :hopelessness:
If you want to know all about what happened, if you are honorable and want to base on facts, then please take the effort to read back all those posts, especially you can search for Ringo, and see how he started all those personal attack and trying to put words into other people's mouth and he can't show evidence to justify what he insisted.
The evidence is all over in this forum that proved that Ringo33 is a liar, and have no integrity and moral character, a real scam-bag!
If you claim ringo is a liar, do you mean that everyone else in this forum, including yourself is 100% honest?
Take for example you claim to know what ringo bought, the size of his apartment and the psf. Are you totally honest that you know all those information, or just some made up speculation so that you can call him a sucker, scam bag, liar etc.
If you dont mind, may I know what exact did he lied about?
You also mention is is a clone of someone else. Who exactly are you referring to?
You don't put words into other people's mouth and insisted that he or she said those when you can't produce evidence. In real world, if you do so, I can sue you!
And by the way, I never say I know what Ringo bought. You asked the wrong person!
Please go search this forum yourself since you are such strong Ringo supporters. Don't waste our time to look for information for you. You sound more and more like Ringo! :doh:
If you claim ringo is a liar, do you mean that everyone else in this forum, including yourself is 100% honest?
Take for example you claim to know what ringo bought, the size of his apartment and the psf. Are you totally honest that you know all those information, or just some made up speculation so that you can call him a sucker, scam bag, liar etc.
If you dont mind, may I know what exact did he lied about?
You also mention is is a clone of someone else. Who exactly are you referring to?
You are not in this forum for some time, very busy perhaps, so you missed many things lah!
Am surprised by your allegation
have been here long enough to discern
Date joined Jan 2009
You don't put words into other people's mouth and insisted that he or she said those when you can't produce evidence. In real world, if you do so, I can sue you!
And by the way, I never say I know what Ringo bought. You asked the wrong person!
Please go search this forum yourself since you are such strong Ringo supporters. Don't waste our time to look for information for you. You sound more and more like Ringo! :doh:
Sorry, i am not here to pick a fight. I am just curious to know whats with all the bad blood.
Didnt you in another thread claim to know that ringo was a clone of someone from 2009? which mean you and ringo has been quarreling since 2009?
Thats like 6 years???
Perhaps Simi might also know that person since he too join this forum in 2009?
Ringo was a clone of somebody in this forum in 2009............ :mask:
That is why he/she always finger-point others as though other people are like him, going around creating so many clones to support himself!
When he failed in his prediction, he will reborn as another clone...........
Sorry, i am not here to pick a fight. I am just curious to know whats with all the bad blood.
Didnt you in another thread claim to know that ringo was a clone of someone from 2009? which mean you and ringo has been quarreling since 2009?
Thats like 6 years???
Perhaps Simi might also know that person since he too join this forum in 2009?
Only start reading Ringo posting when he started the Beware thread and
do not think Ringo33 is that clone as mentioned which nick start with a "B" lah
Teddybear is one of those who does speak not so nice things about the West part of Singapore especially Jurong
another big naysayer was Regulator during those time, (wonder where is he now)
All those properties he spoke ill against in the West had almost double and some, double in value
You are not in this forum for some time, very busy perhaps, so you missed many things lah!
Yes Sir
been busy travelling around
but been a silent reader while oversea :)
Only start reading Ringo posting when he started the Beware thread and
do not think Ringo33 is that clone as mentioned which nick start with a "B" lah
Teddybear is one of those who does speak not so nice things about the West part of Singapore especially Jurong
another big naysayer was Regulator during those time, (wonder where is he now)
All those properties he spoke ill against in the West had almost double and some, double in value
No offense, but this is extremely childish. Its like a petulant kid going around destroying other people's properties just because he doesnt own it.
Not something I expect from a property forum actually.
Can we continue with useful information exchange. My personal view is Both Ringo and TB is not innocent. Both of them have their own share in polluting this forum. Once again this is purely my observation. I will respect to anyone else that disagree with my observation.
Buy to rent out ok for me. Buy to live in not ok because of pollution & health issues in the West.
Since got up so much in west means no more meat left to profit?
Only start reading Ringo posting when he started the Beware thread and
do not think Ringo33 is that clone as mentioned which nick start with a "B" lah
Teddybear is one of those who does speak not so nice things about the West part of Singapore especially Jurong
another big naysayer was Regulator during those time, (wonder where is he now)
All those properties he spoke ill against in the West had almost double and some, double in value
Can we continue with useful information exchange. My personal view is Both Ringo and TB is not innocent. Both of them have their own share in polluting this forum. Once again this is purely my observation. I will respect to anyone else that disagree with my observation.
Perhaps teddy bear should also be banned from this forum. ? Just a suggestion.
And owner of this forum should appoint a few moderator to spring clean this forum.
Anyone who break the forum rules should be banned instantly.
Can we continue with useful information exchange. My personal view is Both Ringo and TB is not innocent. Both of them have their own share in polluting this forum. Once again this is purely my observation. I will respect to anyone else that disagree with my observation.
Hey Sandiwara, high five.
I think both of them are very imbalanced and biased in their own ways. Sometimes it feels like they are forcing extreme ideas into people's minds without justification or evidence.
I doubt they speak like that normally in real life to others. If they do, it will be such a scary world!
Only start reading Ringo posting when he started the Beware thread and
do not think Ringo33 is that clone as mentioned which nick start with a "B" lah
Teddybear is one of those who does speak not so nice things about the West part of Singapore especially Jurong
another big naysayer was Regulator during those time, (wonder where is he now)
All those properties he spoke ill against in the West had almost double and some, double in value
The one that start with "B" got banned many times here, kept coming back & register with almost the same nick.
He would post some of the most hilarious stuff. Strangely - sometimes I would agree with it & he still shout and scold!
He is posting under the name "century" on sgtalk now.
100% style of writing match.
No way was Ringo B. Styles different, language different. Ringo at least posted links , B never did, just cut & paste the most hilarious material from conspiracy websites.
I kind of miss him......
Now that we know Ringo is not B, I think teddybear should at least swallow his or her pride and apologize to Ringo for wrongful accusation.
Now that we know Ringo is not B, I think teddybear should at least swallow his or her pride and apologize to Ringo for wrongful accusation.
Why the obsession with Ringo? Why would new forummer be so obsessed with such an irrational character?
Strange that you accept my analysis as proof and fact rather than opinion! I know old ringo would only do that if the opinion aligned with his world view - then any old rubbish would be considered a fact.
Also how to apologise to an exforrumer? They can't be around to except even if given. Maybe can except posthumously.
Think we should create a thread in coffee talk section called "In remberence of Ringo33" where people can go and mourn his passing ..... Or dance on his grave. Anything to stop good threads being ruined. Not that this is a good thread.
Why the obsession with Ringo? Why would new forummer be so obsessed with such an irrational character?
Strange that you accept my analysis as proof and fact rather than opinion! I know old ringo would only do that if the opinion aligned with his world view - then any old rubbish would be considered a fact.
Also how to apologise to an exforrumer? They can't be around to except even if given. Maybe can except posthumously.
Think we should create a thread in coffee talk section called "In remberence of Ringo33" where people can go and mourn his passing ..... Or dance on his grave. Anything to stop good threads being ruined. Not that this is a good thread.
Why are you so offended by people who speak positive things about ringo? does your existence in this forum feel threatened with him around?
On a serious note, why do you need to be so defensive and firm about your opinion towards ringo? Why cant you just agree to disagree or accept that there are people in this forum who enjoy his thread.
If ever one day you ever start your own thread to share your opinion, I am sure you wont like people to jump in to call you a scum bag or suckers?
Since we have got over that Ringo = B (which teddybear has been speculating) why not we try to get the 2nd one out of the way?
ie. How do you know what property Ringo bought, the size of his apartment and how much he paid for it?
No offense, but this is extremely childish. Its like a petulant kid going around destroying other people's properties just because he doesnt own it.
Not something I expect from a property forum actually.
I know, you should have seen some of the childish nonsense that this thread starter got into talking trash about people's properties in the east., claiming that there is wrong side of the CCR, posting pictures of hookers etc... All to try to destroy other people's properties. Of course none of these things will change the market.
I hope you are going to equally criticise TS in equal measure.
Thought Ringo is gone forever?
Why you so concerned about Ringo?
You know Ringo very well? :monkey:
Now that we know Ringo is not B, I think teddybear should at least swallow his or her pride and apologize to Ringo for wrongful accusation.
EXACTLY! You hit the nail on the head!
JURONG is the only heavy industry town in Singapore! Pollution is the worst in Singapore!
JURONG condos last time only $500+ psf, Now $1200+ psf. JGateway sold at $1700+ psf! People still think there is any more upside at such price?!
Buy to rent out ok for me. Buy to live in not ok because of pollution & health issues in the West.
Since got up so much in west means no more meat left to profit?
I am serious about I said, not joking!
1) JURONG is the 1 and ONLY heavy industry town in Singapore!
2) 96% of all SO2 produced in Singapore is concentrated in JURONG (according to NEA)!
3) Pollutions from oil refineries and petrochemical plants and power generation plants etc are extremely poisonous - These are the conclusions of studies conducted in US and countries in Europe! (I never made these up). All these plants being located in JURONG and the West side, thus JURONG residents will be the most seriously affected to the potential health hazards!
All above are facts!
Tell me, which points above are not FACTS?
Tell me, which points above are childish?
No offense, but this is extremely childish. Its like a petulant kid going around destroying other people's properties just because he doesnt own it.
Not something I expect from a property forum actually.
Only start reading Ringo posting when he started the Beware thread and
do not think Ringo33 is that clone as mentioned which nick start with a "B" lah
Teddybear is one of those who does speak not so nice things about the West part of Singapore especially Jurong
another big naysayer was Regulator during those time, (wonder where is he now)
All those properties he spoke ill against in the West had almost double and some, double in value
https://www.google.com/search?q=size+of+jakarta+city&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
https://www.google.com/search?q=size+of+singapore&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
If Some people think that pollution only reach Jurong and never Reach Woodlands or never Reach Pasir Ris. Please try to see Singapore as one city but not as one country. If that person still do not get my message than nothing else I can say.
Thought Ringo is gone forever?
Why you so concerned about Ringo?
You know Ringo very well? :monkey:
I am just trying to be constructive here instead of always running around in circle. something which you have been doing since 2009.
You claimed that you have engaged ringo in 2009 under the name of "B", while ringo only appear in this forum in 2012.
Several forummers have already said why they dont think ringo is "B". So can we all agree that Ringo is not "B" and that you were wrong to make the false accusation?
Can you accept that as a gentlemen or lady?
I am serious about I said, not joking!
1) JURONG is the 1 and ONLY heavy industry town in Singapore!
2) 96% of all SO2 produced in Singapore is concentrated in JURONG (according to NEA)!
3) Pollutions from oil refineries and petrochemical plants and power generation plants etc are extremely poisonous - These are the conclusions of studies conducted in US and countries in Europe! (I never made these up). All these plants being located in JURONG and the West side, thus JURONG residents will be the most seriously affected to the potential health hazards!
All above are facts!
Tell me, which points above are not FACTS?
Tell me, which points above are childish?
I think its better that we try to quantify what we say instead of speculating on cloud information.
PSI at 8pm shows that air quality in the West and Central area are the best compare to South, East and North.
http://www.nea.gov.sg/anti-pollution-radiation-protection/air-pollution-control/psi/psi-readings-over-the-last-24-hours
Why are you so offended by people who speak positive things about ringo? does your existence in this forum feel threatened with him around?
On a serious note, why do you need to be so defensive and firm about your opinion towards ringo? Why cant you just agree to disagree or accept that there are people in this forum who enjoy his thread.
If ever one day you ever start your own thread to share your opinion, I am sure you wont like people to jump in to call you a scum bag or suckers?
Since we have got over that Ringo = B (which teddybear has been speculating) why not we try to get the 2nd one out of the way?
ie. How do you know what property Ringo bought, the size of his apartment and how much he paid for it?
Ling Ping,
Very strange you are using present tense about someone who is no more.
Must have been a simple mistake on you part yes?
I know it's impossible for ringo to come back to this forum under a new name given the stance he took against people behaving in such a way. To do so would make him look like a world class hypocrite, do as I say not as I do type of person. But then he did show in the past that he's capable of the kind of behaviour.
Anyway, not sure ringo has really been banned. He's pretended to do that before by changing status.
I never called him a scumbag. Show me where I called him a scumbag? Please retract. I know it's not something ringo would ever do when shown to be wrong, but of course you are not him are you so please lead the way and be gracious enough to admit your mistake.
I also am actually super polite and nice to people that treat me nicely. But ringo made the mistake along time ago of thinking he could insult and tell everyone how to behave. When you start a fight against a greater opponent you can't cry foul when they hit you back harder can you?
Strange you now think ringo = B , what made you change your mind? Nevermind I guess it's just a typo on your part I'm sure you meant != - you need to be careful of those, it could lead you to becoming hirsute (sorry, private joke)
As for what do i know what he's bought? I couldn't careless what he's bought. He never had the guts to admit it himself. Bark on over 1000 pgs but don't dare put his money where his mouth is. But if you are so eager to know, look through his beware thread. I'm sure there are some hints for you there.
Now that we know Ringo is not B, I think teddybear should at least swallow his or her pride and apologize to Ringo for wrongful accusation.
If you really show concern for Ringo you should bring him to a specialist for early treatment instead of wasting your time here.
If you really show concern for Ringo you should bring him to a specialist for early treatment instead of wasting your time here.
Sunrise, I shouldn't laugh.......
Ling Ping,
Very strange you are using present tense about someone who is no more.
Must have been a simple mistake on you part yes?
I know it's impossible for ringo to come back to this forum under a new name given the stance he took against people behaving in such a way. To do so would make him look like a world class hypocrite, do as I say not as I do type of person. But then he did show in the past that he's capable of the kind of behaviour.
Anyway, not sure ringo has really been banned. He's pretended to do that before by changing status.
I never called him a scumbag. Show me where I called him a scumbag? Please retract. I know it's not something ringo would ever do when shown to be wrong, but of course you are not him are you so please lead the way and be gracious enough to admit your mistake.
I also am actually super polite and nice to people that treat me nicely. But ringo made the mistake along time ago of thinking he could insult and tell everyone how to behave. When you start a fight against a greater opponent you can't cry foul when they hit you back harder can you?
Strange you now think ringo = B , what made you change your mind? Nevermind I guess it's just a typo on your part I'm sure you meant != - you need to be careful of those, it could lead you to becoming hirsute (sorry, private joke)
As for what do i know what he's bought? I couldn't careless what he's bought. He never had the guts to admit it himself. Bark on over 1000 pgs but don't dare put his money where his mouth is. But if you are so eager to know, look through his beware thread. I'm sure there are some hints for you there.
I believe you mentioned something about sucker didnt you? and before ringo was banned was there something about defecation?
So can we all agree that Mr. ringo is NOT "B" and so far no one has anything to prove what Ringo bought, the size of his apartment and the psf he paid for? Which mean these talk about he being suckers are just a result of someone's wild speculation?
EXACTLY! You hit the nail on the head!
JURONG is the only heavy industry town in Singapore! Pollution is the worst in Singapore!
JURONG condos last time only $500+ psf, Now $1200+ psf. JGateway sold at $1700+ psf! People still think there is any more upside at such price?!
TB Sir
dangerous to mix truth with half lie
$500 psf to $1200 psf is truth
$1700 psf is half lie
do not need to go so low as that ?
I believe you mentioned something about sucker didnt you? and before ringo was banned was there something about defecation?
So can we all agree that Mr. ringo is NOT "B" and so far no one has anything to prove what Ringo bought, the size of his apartment and the psf he paid for? Which mean these talk about he being suckers are just a result of someone's wild speculation?
Did i call him scumbag? Answer no. I know someone else who until a few days ago answer in this exact style, never directly answering where he got caught out.
If he bought what he spent so much time and energy defending for the last 18 months he's a sucker. Buying at the peak of the market while 6 months earlier suggesting people cash out.
If he didn't he was gutless.
Either way the devotion and effort you are putting into defending his cyber corpse is amazing.
It's almost like he was reborn!
Ling Ping, I am impressed as hell you know so much about what I have said to or about ringo over the last 18 months! You only joined in December 2014. It's like you know his every thought. You must be a fantastic reader to have read so much and committed to memory that you can pull up ancient feuds like snapping your fingers.
Ps I have no idea about ringos defecation issues. TMI. Don't want to know, or know why it interests you so much.
Anyhow have a great evening ! I'm signing off for the night. There's a beer with my name on it in the bar next to my apt in Holland V.
I am serious about I said, not joking!
1) JURONG is the 1 and ONLY heavy industry town in Singapore!
2) 96% of all SO2 produced in Singapore is concentrated in JURONG (according to NEA)!
3) Pollutions from oil refineries and petrochemical plants and power generation plants etc are extremely poisonous - These are the conclusions of studies conducted in US and countries in Europe! (I never made these up). All these plants being located in JURONG and the West side, thus JURONG residents will be the most seriously affected to the potential health hazards!
All above are facts!
Tell me, which points above are not FACTS?
Tell me, which points above are childish?
Wow according to your "Facts"
Jurong will be waste land in a few years time,
No more habitation for generations to come
Bravo to your Facts finding
I believe you mentioned something about sucker didnt you? and before ringo was banned was there something about defecation?
So can we all agree that Mr. ringo is NOT "B" and so far no one has anything to prove what Ringo bought, the size of his apartment and the psf he paid for? Which mean these talk about he being suckers are just a result of someone's wild speculation?
In Virtual world like internet, it does not possible to prove A=B or A!=B. It does not matter in virtual world. People will value you base on what is your view and how you present your view. Any one can become or pretend to become anyone.
Did i call him scumbag? Answer no. I know someone else who until a few days ago answer in this exact style, never directly answering where he got caught out.
If he bought what he spent so much time and energy defending for the last 18 months he's a sucker. Buying at the peak of the market while 6 months earlier suggesting people cash out.
If he didn't he was gutless.
Either way the devotion and effort you are putting into defending his cyber corpse is amazing.
It's almost like he was reborn!
Ling Ping, I am impressed as hell you know so much about what I have said to or about ringo over the last 18 months! You only joined in December 2014. It's like you know his every thought. You must be a fantastic reader to have read so much and committed to memory that you can pull up ancient feuds like snapping your fingers.
Ps I have no idea about ringos defecation issues. TMI. Don't want to know, or know why it interests you so much.
Anyhow have a great evening ! I'm signing off for the night. There's a beer with my name on it in the bar next to my apt in Holland V.
I can certainly see that you are going off tangent here. Let's just take a step back. A few posts before you admitted that you can't be sure what ringo bought what's the size of his apartment and also the psf. And now you choose to continue talking he buying at the peak. so that you have a reason to call him a sucker?
Don't you think this is very self contradictory and to a certain extent naive and childish?
What I am talking to you now are mostly stuffs which was posted in the last few days. And my bad it's not defecation its fart and shit which ringo was talking about a few days back.
As you can see if you choose to continue to bury yourself under piles of lies and groundless assumption how are you suppose to engage others with a clear mind?
Don't you think your are extremely bias and combative considering a majority of your time in this forum is spent on non property related discussion?
In Virtual world like internet, it does not possible to prove A=B or A!=B. It does not matter in virtual world. People will value you base on what is your view and how you present your view. Any one can become or pretend to become anyone.
If you can't prove then why waste time making assumption that ringo is b and that ringo bought this and that at what price? Isn't that what we call smearing? In the real world I think a person can be sue for doing that.
Buy to rent out ok for me. Buy to live in not ok because of pollution & health issues in the West.
Since got up so much in west means no more meat left to profit?
so far rental is holding steady in the West
my units are all rented out and occasionally still received SMSes from agents enquiring on the availability
As for "meat"
The phenomenon growth we saw from 2008 to 2013 is over
Have to wait for the next cycle
As for JLD there are still lots of optimism judging from the launched of LakeLife EC
Within 2 to 3 years the whole area sprung into life with the opening of the shopping malls
and some statutory board moving into JLD
I did not buy JGateway
But
Got a strong feeling that my reaction will be one of regret rather than Luckily do not buy
Come middle of 2016
If you can't prove then why waste time making assumption that ringo is b and that ringo bought this and that at what price? Isn't that what we call smearing? In the real world I think a person can be sue for doing that.
I think you confuse me for someone else. Prove it that I ever write it.
so far rental is holding steady in the West
my units are all rented out and occasionally still received SMSes from agents enquiring on the availability
As for "meat"
The phenomenon growth we saw from 2008 to 2013 is over
Have to wait for the next cycle
As for JLD there are still lots of optimism judging from the launched of LakeLife EC
Within 2 to 3 years the whole area sprung into life with the opening of the shopping malls
and some statutory board moving into JLD
I did not buy JGateway
But
Got a strong feeling that my reaction will be one of regret rather than Luckily do not buy
Come middle of 2016
If I got money I will also buy. Perhaps buy those mid floor to stay for one year before renting out.
Unfortunately no $$ :(
I can certainly see that you are going off tangent here. Let's just take a step back. A few posts before you admitted that you can't be sure what ringo bought what's the size of his apartment and also the psf. And now you choose to continue talking he buying at the peak. so that you have a reason to call him a sucker?
Don't you think this is very self contradictory and to a certain extent naive and childish?
What I am talking to you now are mostly stuffs which was posted in the last few days. And my bad it's not defecation its fart and shit which ringo was talking about a few days back.
As you can see if you choose to continue to bury yourself under piles of lies and groundless assumption how are you suppose to engage others with a clear mind?
Don't you think your are extremely bias and combative considering a majority of your time in this forum is spent on non property related discussion?
Oh dear. I think your brain doesn't work very well.
I put out what we call in the programming world an if... else statement.
I don't expect you to understand what that means, it clearly covered both possibilities of both buying & not buying so it's time to stop talking to you. You are as selective as ringo on what you read and argue about. Unfortunately other forummers can easily see what I wrote so you are only making yourself look childish by attempting to misrepresent what I said. Ringo used to do that a lot. Class 95 filter.
Again your knowledge for someone who has just started posting a few days after ringo's banishment - you seem to know all his past arguments. I salute your ability to read 1000's of posts in such a short time. Anyone else might start to think you where actually ringo himself. But not me. Ringo used to rant about people getting banned and coming back under another userid, so I know he wouldn't do that. That would make him a world class hypocrite - wouldn't you agree?
Not sure what your last sentence means. The grammar is as terrible as ringos - in fact it's almost a perfect copy. But I know that this is just a huge coincidence of the universe. It happens.
You are Ling Ping, totally new guy who and certainly not ringo right?
Why ringo wanted to talk about fart & shit and defecation and why that is of such interest to you is something you can leave me out of.
ps. I fail to see what property topics you are addressing. You seem to have sprung to life after ringos demise and only post on defending his cyber corpse., with the one exception of your first post on annual valuation.
pps. you are trying very hard. it must be very tough for you to keep it up.
ppps - have a great weekend!
If I got money I will also buy. Perhaps buy those mid floor to stay for one year before renting out.
Unfortunately no $$ :(
Dear Ling Ping
Set your mind up
Start off with HDB
Force yourself to pay instalments in cash with shortest repayment loan period
(Probably the first few years have to give up other luxury like car and holidays)
This way you will have saving both way
Asset (cash) as in the flat and CPF
Just a suggestion
Cheers !!!
NasiLemak78
09-01-15, 07:56
Wow according to your "Facts"
Jurong will be waste land in a few years time,
No more habitation for generations to come
Bravo to your Facts finding
I am just trying to be constructive here instead of always running around in circle. something which you have been doing since 2009.
You claimed that you have engaged ringo in 2009 under the name of "B", while ringo only appear in this forum in 2012.
Several forummers have already said why they dont think ringo is "B". So can we all agree that Ringo is not "B" and that you were wrong to make the false accusation?
Can you accept that as a gentlemen or lady?
@ Simi
@ Ling Ping
Both of you should also SHUT THE F%XK UP.
Trolling / SARCASM make you look like a fool here and messed up this forum!
Especially Ling Ping, you are behaving like RINGO33. Let me guess, are you Ringo33 ?
@ Simi
@ Ling Ping
Both of you should also SHUT THE F%XK UP.
Trolling / SARCASM make you look like a fool here and messed up this forum!
Especially Ling Ping, you are behaving like RINGO33. Let me guess, are you Ringo33 ?
wow wow wow
So explosive early in the morning
Cool down else you may need more medicine
Oh dear. I think your brain doesn't work very well.
I put out what we call in the programming world an if... else statement.
I don't expect you to understand what that means, it clearly covered both possibilities of both buying & not buying so it's time to stop talking to you. You are as selective as ringo on what you read and argue about. Unfortunately other forummers can easily see what I wrote so you are only making yourself look childish by attempting to misrepresent what I said. Ringo used to do that a lot. Class 95 filter.
Again your knowledge for someone who has just started posting a few days after ringo's banishment - you seem to know all his past arguments. I salute your ability to read 1000's of posts in such a short time. Anyone else might start to think you where actually ringo himself. But not me. Ringo used to rant about people getting banned and coming back under another userid, so I know he wouldn't do that. That would make him a world class hypocrite - wouldn't you agree?
Not sure what your last sentence means. The grammar is as terrible as ringos - in fact it's almost a perfect copy. But I know that this is just a huge coincidence of the universe. It happens.
You are Ling Ping, totally new guy who and certainly not ringo right?
Why ringo wanted to talk about fart & shit and defecation and why that is of such interest to you is something you can leave me out of.
ps. I fail to see what property topics you are addressing. You seem to have sprung to life after ringos demise and only post on defending his cyber corpse., with the one exception of your first post on annual valuation.
pps. you are trying very hard. it must be very tough for you to keep it up.
ppps - have a great weekend!
To be very honest with you, we are the first generation Singaporean, and our family doesnt speak perfect English like most Singaporeans do, so please excuse our grammar.
If you may allow me to quote you. Just 2 days ago, you mention that you know what mr. ringo bought in 2013 and also claim it only take 5 mins to find out the size of his apartment and the psf he paid for this apartment etc. I did a search myself and I just couldnt find any source that indicate what ringo bought actually.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/17002-Time-to-cash-out/page15?p=498832&viewfull=1#post498832
And then in this post, you openly admitted that you are not sure what ringo bought because he didnt admit to it.
As for what do i know what he's bought? I couldn't careless what he's bought. He never had the guts to admit it himself. Bark on over 1000 pgs but don't dare put his money where his mouth is. But if you are so eager to know, look through his beware thread. I'm sure there are some hints for you there.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/23144-Owners-in-the-West-beware!!/page15?p=498966&viewfull=1#post498966
So may I ask if what you said about ringo being a sucker and buying at the peak cant be supported with evidence or facts?? Its almost like smearing?
As for how much I know about ringo, I only did some reading on the recent post. How I know about the fart and shit argument is from this post from 3 days ago.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php/23144-Owners-in-the-West-beware!!/page7?p=498643&viewfull=1#post498643
wow wow wow
So explosive early in the morning
Cool down else you may need more medicine
Bro,
Don't bother it...just another clone nia..:cheerful:!
NasiLemak78
09-01-15, 08:14
wow wow wow
So explosive early in the morning
Cool down else you may need more medicine
You should also learn to cool down as you WOW too much might lead you to heart attack ! lol
Hope not wait later admitted to hospital because you are too excited ! Not a good year to start off ! lol
NasiLemak78
09-01-15, 08:16
It is CONFIRMED !!
Simi = CodoWE
Ling Ping = Ringo33
:)
Bro,
Don't bother it...just another clone nia..:cheerful:!
Thanks Bro
A very Good Morning
NasiLemak78
09-01-15, 08:18
Thanks Bro
A very Good Morning
Why are you talking to yourself aka your clone account CondoWE ? lol
Very funny indeed lOl
Why are you talking to yourself aka your clone account CondoWE ? lol
Very funny indeed lOl
Kindly advise how you know so much about them with just 4 posts??? Did you have another nick as well?
OMG, it's highly confusing with so many reincarnates...
I feel that I am watching Property agent from different part of Singapore are arguing in this forum.
Why are you talking to yourself aka your clone account CondoWE ? lol
Very funny indeed lOl
you are funnier LOL
your angel wings got entangled ?
maybe its time to change your air filter to your lung...hahaha
NasiLemak78
09-01-15, 08:37
Kindly advise how you know so much about them with just 4 posts??? Did you have another nick as well?
OMG, it's highly confusing with so many reincarnates...
Don't you know that ALL non register visitors can view all post and sections ? lol
OMG, it is time for you to do a full medical check up. lol
NasiLemak78
09-01-15, 08:40
you are funnier LOL
your angel wings got entangled ?
maybe its time to change your air filter to your lung...hahaha
Nah, you imagine too much shit . lol
Its time for you to shit now and make sure wipe your ass clean....Don't come here got smell...HAHAHAHA
NasiLemak78
09-01-15, 08:44
I feel that I am watching Property agent from different part of Singapore are arguing in this forum.
Well you may wish to consider joining Kelonguni, maybe soon he is investing into karang guni business ?? lol
Nah, you imagine too much shit . lol
Its time for you to shit now and make sure wipe your ass clean....Don't come here got smell...HAHAHAHA
you so cute and adorable
that's why address you as Sir
Oil will crashed to below USD50 in 1 to 2 years time, right ?...Note taken, Sir ;)
Remember to take your medicine tonight hor,
or give me your number and will remind you
NasiLemak78
09-01-15, 08:51
you so cute and adorable
that's why address you as Sir
Oil will crashed to below USD50 in 1 to 2 years time, right ?...Note taken, Sir ;)
Remember to take your medicine tonight hor,
or give me your number and will remind you
Go and Praise / Bootlick your Ling Ping lah. Don't disturb me and others okay ?
Be a good boy ;)
Thank u
Go and Praise / Bootlick your Ling Ping lah. Don't disturb me and others okay ?
Be a good boy ;)
Thank u
Sir
is that a command or a request ?
AssetRichMoneyPoor
09-01-15, 09:00
this is like epic OMG. to start off with such hilarity in the morning is priceless.
because of ringgo because of the west, this forum has never been more divisive and fingers pointed.
simi is not condowe, this is almost a certainty :)
ling ping? with her 30 odd posts and "figure of speech" - tweak as one tries hard not to be uncovered, it's pretty much a give away.
thanks for the entertainment to start off TGIF
this is like epic OMG. to start off with such hilarity in the morning is priceless.
because of ringgo because of the west, this forum has never been more divisive and fingers pointed.
simi is not condowe, this is almost a certainty :)
ling ping? with her 30 odd posts and "figure of speech" - tweak as one tries hard not to be uncovered, it's pretty much a give away.
thanks for the entertainment to start off TGIF
really, property investor very rich, very free.. argue to kill time...lol
this is like epic OMG. to start off with such hilarity in the morning is priceless.
because of ringgo because of the west, this forum has never been more divisive and fingers pointed.
simi is not condowe, this is almost a certainty :)
ling ping? with her 30 odd posts and "figure of speech" - tweak as one tries hard not to be uncovered, it's pretty much a give away.
thanks for the entertainment to start off TGIF
Mr.B make a surprise comeback after 2 years absent, cheers 2015. everybody please beware from this moment!
Sorry to say that, but Ling Ping sounds like Ringo33 clone, and you supporting Ringo33 / Ringo33 clone, and he has many arch enemies here, so Ringo33 supporters become obvious target lah!
Ringo33 - You are a liar, with no integrity and moral character, a scum bag!
I made the above comments based on facts (that I had already mentioned previously in this forum).
Ok, see whether Ringo33 response here or not - then we know how many clones he has here!
wow wow wow
So explosive early in the morning
Cool down else you may need more medicine
As I said, the 3 points I raised are all FACTS!
If you don't agree, you can provide supporting evidence from reliable sources and of authority to disprove the facts.
On the other hand, what you said:
Jurong will be waste land in a few years time,
No more habitation for generations to come
is your own interpretation.
I didn't say that.
If you really think so, you may want to provide supporting evidence from reliable sources to support your points (just like I did).
Wow according to your "Facts"
Jurong will be waste land in a few years time,
No more habitation for generations to come
Bravo to your Facts finding
I am serious about I said, not joking!
1) JURONG is the 1 and ONLY heavy industry town in Singapore!
2) 96% of all SO2 produced in Singapore is concentrated in JURONG (according to NEA)!
3) Pollutions from oil refineries and petrochemical plants and power generation plants etc are extremely poisonous - These are the conclusions of studies conducted in US and countries in Europe! (I never made these up). All these plants being located in JURONG and the West side, thus JURONG residents will be the most seriously affected to the potential health hazards!
All above are facts!
Tell me, which points above are not FACTS?
Tell me, which points above are childish?
teddybear, EBD and simi claim that ringo is not "B". Do you agree with them?
teddybear, EBD and simi claim that ringo is not "B". Do you agree with them?
care to share what is your relationship between you and ringo?
teddybear, EBD and simi claim that ringo is not "B". Do you agree with them?
You shouldn't trust my analysis.
If I said your writing style looked as though it was Ringo33 would you believe it?
Before you get upset - I know you cannot possibly be Ringo33 come back with another userid after all his ranting against people who do that.
Would make himself (more of) a laughing stock than he already was. Totally no integrity if he did that wouldn't you agree? (don't worry - not expecting an answer from you Ling Ping even though agreement would not reflect badly on you)
You enjoy your weekend & read my last post again carefully. You seem to have missed out all the pertinant points that answered your own questions. (if-else etc...)
You seem to miss large chunks of my post which I lovingly prepared for you. I know some of it would be considered awkward if you were Ringo - but as we have established , you are clearly not so should have no problem answering some of my questions.
Please re-read, I won't be free until next Monday so please enjoy your weekend.
CLANK CLANK
Oh dear. I think your brain doesn't work very well.
I put out what we call in the programming world an if... else statement.
I don't expect you to understand what that means, it clearly covered both possibilities of both buying & not buying so it's time to stop talking to you. You are as selective as ringo on what you read and argue about. Unfortunately other forummers can easily see what I wrote so you are only making yourself look childish by attempting to misrepresent what I said. Ringo used to do that a lot. Class 95 filter.
Again your knowledge for someone who has just started posting a few days after ringo's banishment - you seem to know all his past arguments. I salute your ability to read 1000's of posts in such a short time. Anyone else might start to think you where actually ringo himself. But not me. Ringo used to rant about people getting banned and coming back under another userid, so I know he wouldn't do that. That would make him a world class hypocrite - wouldn't you agree?
Not sure what your last sentence means. The grammar is as terrible as ringos - in fact it's almost a perfect copy. But I know that this is just a huge coincidence of the universe. It happens.
You are Ling Ping, totally new guy who and certainly not ringo right?
Why ringo wanted to talk about fart & shit and defecation and why that is of such interest to you is something you can leave me out of.
ps. I fail to see what property topics you are addressing. You seem to have sprung to life after ringos demise and only post on defending his cyber corpse., with the one exception of your first post on annual valuation.
pps. you are trying very hard. it must be very tough for you to keep it up.
ppps - have a great weekend!
To be very honest with you, we are the first generation Singaporean, and our family doesnt speak perfect English like most Singaporeans do, so please excuse our grammar.
If you may allow me to quote you. Just 2 days ago, you mention that you know what mr. ringo bought in 2013 and also claim it only take 5 mins to find out the size of his apartment and the psf he paid for this apartment etc. I did a search myself and I just couldnt find any source that indicate what ringo bought actually.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/sho...l=1#post498832
And then in this post, you openly admitted that you are not sure what ringo bought because he didnt admit to it.
As for what do i know what he's bought? I couldn't careless what he's bought. He never had the guts to admit it himself. Bark on over 1000 pgs but don't dare put his money where his mouth is. But if you are so eager to know, look through his beware thread. I'm sure there are some hints for you there.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/sho...l=1#post498966
So may I ask if what you said about ringo being a sucker and buying at the peak cant be supported with evidence or facts?? Its almost like smearing?
As for how much I know about ringo, I only did some reading on the recent post. How I know about the fart and shit argument is from this post from 3 days ago.
http://forums.condosingapore.com/sho...l=1#post498643
You shouldn't trust my analysis.
If I said your writing style looked as though it was Ringo33 would you believe it?
Before you get upset - I know you cannot possibly be Ringo33 come back with another userid after all his ranting against people who do that.
Would make himself (more of) a laughing stock than he already was. Totally no integrity if he did that wouldn't you agree? (don't worry - not expecting an answer from you Ling Ping even though agreement would not reflect badly on you)
You enjoy your weekend & read my last post again carefully. You seem to have missed out all the pertinant points that answered your own questions. (if-else etc...)
You seem to miss large chunks of my post which I lovingly prepared for you. I know some of it would be considered awkward if you were Ringo - but as we have established , you are clearly not so should have no problem answering some of my questions.
Please re-read, I won't be free until next Monday so please enjoy your weekend.
CLANK CLANK
No, Ringo33 will never do that. Why would he/she shoot himself/herself in both feet? Someone of high integrity will not do that - please do not disappoint me, Ling Ping!
Peace prevails with no more hard selling. At most soft selling - that one I can accept.
You shouldn't trust my analysis.
If I said your writing style looked as though it was Ringo33 would you believe it?
Before you get upset - I know you cannot possibly be Ringo33 come back with another userid after all his ranting against people who do that.
Would make himself (more of) a laughing stock than he already was. Totally no integrity if he did that wouldn't you agree? (don't worry - not expecting an answer from you Ling Ping even though agreement would not reflect badly on you)
You enjoy your weekend & read my last post again carefully. You seem to have missed out all the pertinant points that answered your own questions. (if-else etc...)
You seem to miss large chunks of my post which I lovingly prepared for you. I know some of it would be considered awkward if you were Ringo - but as we have established , you are clearly not so should have no problem answering some of my questions.
Please re-read, I won't be free until next Monday so please enjoy your weekend.
CLANK CLANK
Have you noticed since Ringo got banned your activities in this forum also spiked. Over the last 4 days alone, you have made almost 30 comments, while prior to that you rarely participate in this forum. (any explanation??)
As for whether ringo is "B" or not, you have said in your own words that you dont believe he is "B", and you also recently claim you cant prove what ringo has bought or how much he has paid for it. (In a proud way of course)
So does it mean that all your online hatred and aggression towards ringo are purely based on fabricated lies instead of facts? Like a cyber bully going around smearing ringo reputation hoping others will be on your side?
If you ask me, i think this is really very childish.
EBD, from the below statement alone, I can already tell how vicious and unreasonable you are.
First and foremost, did Ringo ever tell you what he bought? the size of his apartment? how much psf he paid for it?
If not why should he bother to admit or deny it?
As for what do i know what he's bought? I couldn't careless what he's bought. He never had the guts to admit it himself. Bark on over 1000 pgs but don't dare put his money where his mouth is. But if you are so eager to know, look through his beware thread. I'm sure there are some hints for you there.
Well you may wish to consider joining Kelonguni, maybe soon he is investing into karang guni business ?? lol
Thank you for your advice
As I said, the 3 points I raised are all FACTS!
If you don't agree, you can provide supporting evidence from reliable sources and of authority to disprove the facts.
On the other hand, what you said:
Jurong will be waste land in a few years time,
No more habitation for generations to come
is your own interpretation.
I didn't say that.
If you really think so, you may want to provide supporting evidence from reliable sources to support your points (just like I did).
Sorry Sir
You can continue to indulge in your own FACTS
Please correct your statement: Those pollution facts are based on reports from NEA, and US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Europe's EPA. Those are not my "own FACTS"! you are saying as though I made up those "FACTS", which is totally untrue! Don't understand why you are still in self denial about the West? Because you are fully vested there? It is Ok if you want to be in self denial, but please please do not insult and rubbish NEA and US and Europe EPA!
Sorry Sir
You can continue to indulge in your own FACTS
You have been very long in this forum doesn't mean that you didn't miss so many facts that shows that Ringo33 has NO INTEGRITY! Another evidence (see below)! :surprise:
Oh by the way, just saw that
Poloclub has also been "Banned"!
So Ringo33 = Poloclub = Ringo (all usernames created in March 2012!
Ling Ping also = Ringo33 (created in Dec 2014)!
What? Ringo33 has ABSOLUTELY NO INTEGRITY!
Ringo33 "Banned"!
Ling Ping (Ringo33's clone) also "Banned"!
See, Ringo33 got no integrity!
He scolded other people upside down accusing them of creating multiple clone accounts in early 2014, but yet he created multiple clone accounts, not recently in 2014 BUT in March 2012 (so much earlier before started accusing others of creating multiple clone accounts)!
So, all the facts and evidence in this forum further shows that: Ringo33 has no integrity!
Am surprised by your allegation
have been here long enough to discern
Date joined Jan 2009
Only start reading Ringo posting when he started the Beware thread and
do not think Ringo33 is that clone as mentioned which nick start with a "B" lah
Teddybear is one of those who does speak not so nice things about the West part of Singapore especially Jurong
another big naysayer was Regulator during those time, (wonder where is he now)
All those properties he spoke ill against in the West had almost double and some, double in value
I do not find his posting rubbish but rather unselfish sharing and informative ...
Many of his views may differ from a few here but that does not mean he is wrong
In a social forum, learn to agree to disagree and respect each other
Let see what JLD will be after 2017, Dragon or Snake ? Whose prediction/guess/fact on JLD's future is right especially the property value bullish or bearish - TS or ???
Regulators
11-01-15, 11:06
My conclusion is Jld will be a good place to shop and play, but it is still not worth $1700psf.
Wunderkind
11-01-15, 20:54
Without a doubt, JLD will be the jewel in the West. So much effort have been put in by the government to make it into the second CDB that it is almost forgone conclusion that JLD will be a happening place in 2017 and beyond.
Without a doubt, JLD will be the jewel in the West. So much effort have been put in by the government to make it into the second CDB that it is almost forgone conclusion that JLD will be a happening place in 2017 and beyond.
Not everyone will agree to that....
I don't think jurong will be a happening place..i will never wana go there unless it's absolutely necessary.
Wunderkind
11-01-15, 21:28
Not expecting everyone to agree... It is not my concern if people agree or not. My concern is if JLD is not going to happen as the government said that it would and after putting in all the developments into the plans, it is going to be a big let-down for the people who has been led to believe them.
Regulators
11-01-15, 21:36
What the govt is doing in JLD is good, so would you pay $850k for a one bedder in J Gateway? Hdb prices have reached $1 million in bishan and queenstown, would you pay $1 million for an EA in jurong east near jem or imm or in other parts of JLD?
Not expecting everyone to agree... It is not my concern if people agree or not. My concern is if JLD is not going to happen as the government said that it would and after putting in all the developments into the plans, it is going to be a big let-down for the people who has been led to believe them.
If you replace "JLD" in there by "Punggol", it has happened before many years ago, so what is stopping this from happening again? :chargrined:
After all, another 10 years or so later, the new interest will be Woodlands or Yishun, or Simei or Sebawang (just like previously it was in Punngol, Payar Lebar etc).... Keep shifting so that everywhere in OCR will be as valuable or actually will become more valuable than JLD! What will be left of JLD by then? After all, JLD is in the 1 AND ONLY HEAVY INDUSTRY TOWN in Singapore!
Not expecting everyone to agree... It is not my concern if people agree or not. My concern is if JLD is not going to happen as the government said that it would and after putting in all the developments into the plans, it is going to be a big let-down for the people who has been led to believe them.
Wunderkind
11-01-15, 21:47
Since we agree that what the government is doing in JLD is good, then the question we should ask would it be able to get a JG one bedder at 850K when JLD is fully developed ? Will there be sellers willing to sell at 850K ?
Regulators
11-01-15, 21:53
J Gateway has not TOP, so let us just talk about the HDB flats in the JLD. Now that J Gateway has hit record prices for a 99yr condo in the OCR, do we see any major hike in prices for HDB flats in JLD? Jurong is so much larger than Bishan, if JLD is so fantastic, where is the million dollar flat in Jurong? shouldn't it also reflect in the HDB pricing as well?
Since we agree that what the government is doing in JLD is good, then the question we should ask would it be able to get a JG one bedder at 850K when JLD is fully developed ? Will there be sellers willing to sell at 850K ?
Wunderkind
11-01-15, 21:57
JLD is about the future... Bishan is about the present ( potential is realized ). That why the question we need to ponder if whether when JLD is fully developed, will you be able to get the JG one bedder at 850K ?
Wunderkind
11-01-15, 22:09
If you replace "JLD" in there by "Punggol", it has happened before many years ago, so what is stopping this from happening again? :chargrined:
After all, another 10 years or so later, the new interest will be Woodlands or Yishun, or Simei or Sebawang (just like previously it was in Punngol, Payar Lebar etc).... Keep shifting so that everywhere in OCR will be as valuable or actually will become more valuable than JLD! What will be left of JLD by then? After all, JLD is in the 1 AND ONLY HEAVY INDUSTRY TOWN in Singapore!
Agree things can change... black swan event does happen , but there will be a heavy political price to pay for JLD if this doesn't happen... just think of high level steering committee formed to look into the JLD development, all the wonderful speeches made by PM on JLD not only to Singaporeans, but also to the Malaysian counterparts with respect to HSR and our dear Finance Minister who is helming the Jurong constituency. Too much is at stake...
princess_morbucks
11-01-15, 22:29
Not everyone will agree to that....
I don't think jurong will be a happening place..i will never wana go there unless it's absolutely necessary.
I thought so too, until recently when I had the opportunity to be in Jurong frequently.
I am so fascinated by the whole place.
I can't get enough of JEM and Westgate.
The upcoming hospital looks so huge and grand and it is connected to Big Box and Westgate.
Wunderkind
11-01-15, 22:51
Overheard people say that there is a nice looking condo opposite Big Box... only later they were surprised to know it is a hospital.
Regulators
11-01-15, 23:11
Bishan has only one main shopping mall I can think of (Junction 8) but Jurong East has 5 huge malls within walking distance to so many HDB flats now and yet the prices of HDB flats in the area has not moved much. You think with more buildings sprouting up around the lake area in the years to come it is going to make much difference? J Gateway was sold based on future pricing, if JLD is indeed going to make a difference to HDB pricing in the area, it would have already gone up by now and not wait till the entire JLD is completed.
JLD is about the future... Bishan is about the present ( potential is realized ). That why the question we need to ponder if whether when JLD is fully developed, will you be able to get the JG one bedder at 850K ?
Regulators
11-01-15, 23:13
The hospital definitely looks a lot nicer than J Gateway.
Overheard people say that there is a nice looking condo opposite Big Box... only later they were surprised to know it is a hospital.
Weren't there heavy-weight ministers helming Punggol development plan as well?
Was there a heavy political price to pay for Punggol after not delivering?
If not, we can expect the same for JLD............... :hopelessness:
Agree things can change... black swan event does happen , but there will be a heavy political price to pay for JLD if this doesn't happen... just think of high level steering committee formed to look into the JLD development, all the wonderful speeches made by PM on JLD not only to Singaporeans, but also to the Malaysian counterparts with respect to HSR and our dear Finance Minister who is helming the Jurong constituency. Too much is at stake...
Wunderkind
12-01-15, 06:08
JLD is about the future.... Lakelife EC almost sold out is a testament to its potential. The price of HDB around JLD has certainly gone up , but they have not reached the same level as say Bishan is because the future has not yet arrived.
Is the hospital with curved balcony a public or private hospital?
Overheard people say that there is a nice looking condo opposite Big Box... only later they were surprised to know it is a hospital.
princess_morbucks
12-01-15, 10:46
Is the hospital with curved balcony a public or private hospital?
Yes.
9867
Bishan has only one main shopping mall I can think of (Junction 8) but Jurong East has 5 huge malls within walking distance to so many HDB flats now and yet the prices of HDB flats in the area has not moved much...
JLD is about the future.... Lakelife EC almost sold out is a testament to its potential. The price of HDB around JLD has certainly gone up , but they have not reached the same level as say Bishan is because the future has not yet arrived.
Currently Bishan only 1 old shopping mall.. HDB resale already hit $1-mil..
JLD currently 5 brand new shopping mall.. Yet need to depend on "future" to be able to see HDB resale to hit $1-mil??
So jialet? :scared-3:
Indeed.. Location is the main factor
Why we always need to compare between region. Isn't it normal if there is different. Why we always compare which one is better. Yours or Mine. We will never be happy by doing something like that.
EBD, from the below statement alone, I can already tell how vicious and unreasonable you are.
First and foremost, did Ringo ever tell you what he bought? the size of his apartment? how much psf he paid for it?
If not why should he bother to admit or deny it?
Dear departed Ringo.
I know you will not be able to answer this as you have now left for good. This is just to clear up any misconceptions other forummers may have - if they have made the mistake of linking supporting development in the west with the necessity to support someone who has now been completely exposed to be incredibly dishonest, not only about "clone" accounts, but also your final RIP post in the coffeeshop (Glad you took up my idea) which is massively contradictory to all your postings on condormitories, CCR etc...
You are in this mess because you didn't engage with people like a reasonable mature adult. You only came back as Ling Ping and pretended to be reasonable and polite - and demand others do the same - after you got banned as Ringo.
Unfortunately you didn't do too well at that either calling people childish etc on your very 1st post under a new pseudonym.
I have no issue with any other forummer , regardless of what they believe. That's because they don't get personal.
You did, and now you cry and moan that some people were not only prepared to stand up to your forum bully antics - but were much better at the game when provoked.
You are now crying foul that after attacking people, they hit you back. This is not vicious.
Sad to see Ling Ping didn't make it through the weekend........... Wonder how many more you have stored away to be used later....
Regulators
12-01-15, 13:08
EDB, that kid will still be hanging around reading the pages. He will be back as a troll with another name.
Wunderkind
12-01-15, 13:16
The hospital definitely looks a lot nicer than J Gateway.
Sure it is .... In fact if you compare apples to apples, you will find that it looks nicer than most of the other hospitals .
Why we always need to compare between region. Isn't it normal if there is different. Why we always compare which one is better. Yours or Mine. We will never be happy by doing something like that.
You are right! We shouldn't compare Lexus & Toyota.. also Audi & VW.. :highly_amused:
Wunderkind
12-01-15, 13:27
No question on Bishan price. It is what it is because the present potential is realized. Developments is not just about number of malls. It is whole ecosystem. JLD will needs 5 to 10 years to fully realize its full status. But for Bishan , you can see 5 to 10 years later, the ecosystem will see incremental change. Price will catch up in the next few years.
Regulators
12-01-15, 13:37
You speak as if Bishan has a fluorishing "ecosystem" now. In terms of town infrastructure, what is Jurong lacking that Bishan is not lacking presently?
No question on Bishan price. It is what it is because the present potential is realized. Developments is not just about number of malls. It is whole ecosystem. JLD will needs 5 to 10 years to fully realize its full status. But for Bishan , you can see 5 to 10 years later, the ecosystem will see incremental change. Price will catch up in the next few years.
princess_morbucks
12-01-15, 13:51
Is the hospital with curved balcony a public or private hospital?
Yes.
9867
Sorry, misread ur question.
The building will consist of :
Ng teng Fong General Hospital and Jurong Community Hospital.
http://www.juronghealth.com.sg/Our_Hospitals_Facilities/Ng_Teng_Fong_General_Hospital.aspx
It is a public hospital.
Wunderkind
12-01-15, 14:07
Oxymoron isn't it?
Wunderkind
12-01-15, 17:08
You speak as if Bishan has a fluorishing "ecosystem" now. In terms of town infrastructure, what is Jurong lacking that Bishan is not lacking presently?
The future ecosystem refers to integrated connectivity , integration of leisure and parks to business area and edutainment and overall township aesthetic feel. JLD is evolving as a number of infrastructure is still under construction while some like the IHT have not started. BIshan is already established.
JLD is already more well-established with 5 shopping malls now opened, Chinese Garden, Japanese Garden, and a hospital going to open soon etc.
So JLD is already quite established in infrastructure compared to Bishan.
However, JLD condo prices (except 1 anomaly JGateway) and HDB prices are way below Bishan.
Why?
3 main reasons I can think of:
1) Location location location! (i.e. JLD location is not ideal compared to Bishan).
2) JLD is the 1 and ONLY heavy industry town in Singapore! (anybody who can afford it will not want to live near heavy industry and prefer to live far away from these pollution sources!).
3) Because of the above, JLD has low demand compared to Bishan. That is, JLD can't attract the kind of good "software" (i.e. people) who can afford and willing to pay much more for property prices there compared to Bishan.
The future ecosystem refers to integrated connectivity , integration of leisure and parks to business area and edutainment and overall township aesthetic feel. JLD is evolving as a number of infrastructure is still under construction while some like the IHT have not started. BIshan is already established.
Wunderkind
12-01-15, 17:43
JLD is already more well-established with 5 shopping malls now opened, Chinese Garden, Japanese Garden, and a hospital going to open soon etc.
So JLD is already quite established in infrastructure compared to Bishan.
However, JLD condo prices (except 1 anomaly JGateway) and HDB prices are way below Bishan.
Why?
3 main reasons I can think of:
1) Location location location! (i.e. JLD location is not ideal compared to Bishan).
2) JLD is the 1 and ONLY heavy industry town in Singapore! (anybody who can afford it will not want to live near heavy industry and prefer to live far away from these pollution sources!).
3) Because of the above, JLD has low demand compared to Bishan. That is, JLD can't attract the kind of good "software" (i.e. people) who can afford and willing to pay much more for property prices there compared to Bishan.
Not denying the fact that Bishan 's location is good as it is more central . People have already gotten used to the fact and therefore willing to pay a premium for the location.
As I said Bishan is what it is today for what it is today. The potential is realized. Will it go up at a rate faster than JLD in future?
As I said Bishan is what it is today for what it is today. The potential is realized. Will it go up at a rate faster than JLD in future?
Whether Bishan rate will go up faster than JLD in the future I don't know..
I only know ppl paid for "future" price $16xx-$1700psf for OCR.. So how much faster can it go in the "future"?
In fact, coming ahead.. Great potential for downside before you asking ppl to guess what's the rate of upside lor..
Wunderkind
12-01-15, 20:41
Whether Bishan rate will go up faster than JLD in the future I don't know..
I only know ppl paid for "future" price $16xx-$1700psf for OCR.. So how much faster can it go in the "future"?
That begs the question - do you think you can get a JG one bedder at 850k when JLD is fully developed ? And who will sell at the price?
proud owner
12-01-15, 20:54
JLD is a new development, a vast improvement from the old Jurong.
Like Princess said, I was completely taken aback when I visited the malls, they are really Grand ... seriously must better than Velocity or what have you in novena ... small and cramp.
I believe in 5 to 10 years, with the malls and hospital, etc .... it will be a much sort after location.
Regulators
12-01-15, 21:08
Despite all this development in jurong the hdb prices there not moving much, speaks a lot about the price "potential". Bishan in its current state is not as developed as jurong east but why do we see million dollar hdb in bishan n none in jurong?
JLD is a new development, a vast improvement from the old Jurong.
Like Princess said, I was completely taken aback when I visited the malls, they are really Grand ... seriously must better than Velocity or what have you in novena ... small and cramp.
I believe in 5 to 10 years, with the malls and hospital, etc .... it will be a much sort after location.
stalingrad
12-01-15, 21:26
JLD is a new development, a vast improvement from the old Jurong.
Like Princess said, I was completely taken aback when I visited the malls, they are really Grand ... seriously must better than Velocity or what have you in novena ... small and cramp.
I believe in 5 to 10 years, with the malls and hospital, etc .... it will be a much sort after location.
Novena Square, why would anyone mention that dump? Or Orchard Tower, another dumpy place in Central full of hookers. Or Suntec, which is showing its age. The west has some of the best malls in Asia, not just Singapore.
Even Clementi Mall is better than Novena Square, where Teddy's kids attend tuition classes.
Hello you are back! :scared-1:
Can't believe you still believe your JURONG and JGateway are GEM (or GERM)? :panda:
Novena Square, why would anyone mention that dump? Or Katong Mall, another dumpy place. The west has some of the better malls in Asia, not just Singapore.
stalingrad
12-01-15, 21:33
Teddy, we are back in Canada now, but we keep our condo in West Coast. The rental yield is very good.
stalingrad
12-01-15, 21:40
Teddy, give it time. Old habits die hard. When people get used to the idea of living in JLD and when they lose the fear of being laughed for living in the west, the property prices will skyrocket. It takes a great mind to take the first leap and reap the first mover benefit.
It is laughable to compare air quality between the West and the Central in such a small country. We live in a city in Ontario, it would take us two full days to traverse the province of Ontario. Singapore is no larger than the smallest city in Ontario, let alone the province.
Stalingrad,
May be you didn't see the scientific research reports by Europe EPA and US EPA etc. The report concluded that the most deadly effect is within a distance of 5km from these heavy pollution sources, and the effect becomes negligible after a distance of 10km. Therefore, even though Singapore is small, only a small area of Singapore, i.e. in JURONG, is SERIOUSLY AFFECTED by the POLLUTIONS from JURONG Islands and other parts of JURONG with the heavy industry plants, the 5km distance that Ringo drawn, or I called it the 5km DEADLY POLLUTION ZONE!
People who are in the know will be dead scare of this 5km DEADLY POLLUTION ZONE since we only believe in Europe EPA and US EPA, not your words because of your own self interest............... :drinking_coffee_ico
Teddy, give it time. Old habits die hard. When people get used to the idea of living in JLD and when they lose the fear of being laughed for living in the west, the property prices will skyrocket. It takes a great mind to take the first leap and reap the first mover benefit.
It is laughable to compare air quality between the West and the Central in such a small country. We live in a city in Ontario, it would take us two full days to traverse the province of Ontario. Singapore is no larger than the smallest city in Ontario, let alone the province.
stalingrad
12-01-15, 22:01
Stalingrad,
May be you didn't see the scientific research reports by Europe EPA and US EPA etc. The report concluded that the most deadly effect is within a distance of 5km from these heavy pollution sources, and the effect becomes negligible after a distance of 10km. Therefore, even though Singapore is small, only a small area of Singapore, i.e. in JURONG, is SERIOUSLY AFFECTED by the POLLUTIONS from JURONG Islands and other parts of JURONG with the heavy industry plants, the 5km distance that Ringo drawn, or I called it the 5km DEADLY POLLUTION ZONE!
People who are in the know will be dead scare of this 5km DEADLY POLLUTION ZONE since we only believe in Europe EPA and US EPA, not your words because of your own self interest............... :drinking_coffee_ico
Teddy, no western refineries are as large as those on Jurong Island, and no western refineries sport as high smokestacks as those at Jurong Island. Thus, the effect of pollution from JI would be felt across the island, no matter where you live. In fact, with such high smokestacks, you are probably safer living close to the Island than away from it.
You are really ignorant indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The smoke stack in Singapore is actually shorter than those in US and Europe because the pollution regulations in Singapore are not as strict!
Teddy, no western refineries are as large as those on Jurong Island, and no western refineries sport as high smokestacks as those at Jurong Island. Thus, the effect of pollution from JI would be felt across the island, no matter where you live. In fact, with such high smokestacks, you are probably safer living close to the Island than away from it.
Good for you!
After all, since you are not living in your condo in West Coast near those heavy pollution generators, Your health definitely will be in tip-top condition and you get to pocket good money!
Pity those tenants who are ignorant about the health risks after paying so much because of people who are trying to pull a blind over their eyes!
Teddy, we are back in Canada now, but we keep our condo in West Coast. The rental yield is very good.
That begs the question - do you think you can get a JG one bedder at 850k when JLD is fully developed ? And who will sell at the price?
Provided by then JG one bedder can rent out at minimum $3k per month..
Do you think you can rent it out at min. $3k per month for this one bedder unit?
That begs the question - do you think you can get a JG one bedder at 850k when JLD is fully developed ? And who will sell at the price?
If the rental of these one bedder is less than 3k per month.. I can easily pick one unit 850k & below..
Well, that begs the question on the rental.. Can rent out 3k and above per month?
Regulators
12-01-15, 23:03
Have you seen the layout of j gateway one bedder? Really a joke, worse than a one room hdb flat layout sold by hdb. At least for hdb flats people don't need to cook at the doorway entrance, all one bedroom units in j gateway require those living in it to cook beside the door at the entrance.
http://jgate-way.com/soho-1-bed/
If the rental of these one bedder is less than 3k per month.. I can easily pick one unit 850k & below..
Well, that begs the question on the rental.. Can rent out 3k and above per month?
Wunderkind
13-01-15, 06:16
If the rental of these one bedder is less than 3k per month.. I can easily pick one unit 850k & below..
Well, that begs the question on the rental.. Can rent out 3k and above per month?
Rental demand for condo in JLD will be good. Why do you think Genting will want to build a hotel in JLD ?
Don't see Genting building a 5-Star hotel in JLD, not even a 4-Star to start with... That tells us a lot about the affordability and what Genting expect people would be willing to pay to live in JLD... :hurt:
Rental demand for condo in JLD will be good. Why do you think Genting will want to build a hotel in JLD ?
Rental demand for condo in JLD will be good. Why do you think Genting will want to build a hotel in JLD ?
I'm not so interested whether Genting build hotel in JLD..
I'm more interested to know whether J Gateway decent size one bedder can rent out at 3k & above as ppl bought from the developer at 850k
If can't even rent out at 3k.. then bank valuation will be at most 850k-900k.. then what potential capital gain you are talking about??
Don't see Genting building a 5-Star hotel in JLD, not even a 4-Star to start with... That tells us a lot about the affordability and what Genting expect people would be willing to pay to live in JLD... :hurt:
So you should know why Big Box open in JLD..
What so great about Big Box? To me is like Gaint.. selling budget items..
Despite all this development in jurong the hdb prices there not moving much, speaks a lot about the price "potential". Bishan in its current state is not as developed as jurong east but why do we see million dollar hdb in bishan n none in jurong?
Talking about bishan, then should compare jgateway to skyhabitat which is more ex. So more worth to buy skyhabitat than jgateway?
Wunderkind
13-01-15, 09:31
I'm not so interested whether Genting build hotel in JLD..
I'm more interested to know whether J Gateway decent size one bedder can rent out at 3k & above as ppl bought from the developer at 850k
If can't even rent out at 3k.. then bank valuation will be at most 850k-900k.. then what potential capital gain you are talking about??
Pretty confident that the rent will be good . Only 3k ? Expect more lah ! How is that linked to Genting hotel? Because it is a proxy to the rentabiility .
Pretty confident that the rent will be good . Only 3k ? Expect more lah ! How is that linked to Genting hotel? Because it is a proxy to the rentabiility .
CASPIAN/$3,200/400 to 500Sqft/Apr-14
Expect J Gateway one bedder rental 3.5k to 4.2k.
Regulators
13-01-15, 10:43
If j gateway's one bedder rents for 4k, how much do you think their three bedder will rent? How much should the surrounding EA and 5 room hdb flats rent? 4k is unrealistic unless we suffer very bad inflation.
CASPIAN/$3,200/400 to 500Sqft/Apr-14
Expect J Gateway one bedder rental 3.5k to 4.2k.
CASPIAN/$3,200/400 to 500Sqft/Apr-14
Expect J Gateway one bedder rental 3.5k to 4.2k.
April 2014 record still dare to post? Confirmed kena chop carrot jialet jialet at 3.5k to 4.2k!!
Now the rental market:
CASPIAN / 872sf / 2-bedder / Asking below 3k per month.. yet neg.
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/18693262/for-rent-caspian
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/18371291/for-rent-caspian
A couple of 3k.. still neg..
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/11212615/for-rent-caspian
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/18434901/for-rent-caspian
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/18627263/for-rent-caspian
Yet landlord still waiting.. & waiting.. & waiting..
So at the above rate for Caspian 2-bedder.. How much J-Gateway 1-bedder can rent out??
My friend's just rented out his CASPIAN 2bedder last Nov @3.5K...:biggrin-new:!
Pretty confident that the rent will be good . Only 3k ? Expect more lah ! How is that linked to Genting hotel? Because it is a proxy to the rentabiility .
no new foreign workers and new citizens, who is coming to rent and buy our house? now market condition is pressing for a price war.
many agent cannot survives turns into taxi drivers.
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