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She explained: “We have looked at the prices at Sengkang. I have been there personally. I have looked at the prices and they are comparable to any hawker centre in the neighbourhood – $3 for a plate of chicken rice and 90 cents for a cup of coffee. I do not think we can consider that exorbitant.”
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http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2014/04/private-hawker-centres-low-thia-khiang-sounded-warning/
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When the news first emerged in 2007 that the Housing and Development Board (HDB) was going to build a new market and food centre in Sengkang, residents there were elated. They had been calling for such a development for a while then.
But those hopes soon turned sour as news of the winning bid in the HDB tender exercise came to light.
The winner of the bid, out of 25 submitted, was Renaissance Properties Pte Ltd, a subsidiary of foodcourt chain, Kopitiam.
Renaissance had put in a bid of S$500,100 – doubled that of the second highest bidder, Sembawang New Market Pte Ltd, which had bid $256,788.
The bids were announced on 24 February 2009 [See here.]
The HDB subsequently awarded the tender to Renaissance. It was to be Singapore’s first food and wet market centre to be built and run by a private operator.
We don't need HDB anymore, what we need is HDB Pte Ltd. Can we tender HDB job to the Private.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4BfHBW7RRs
The sengkang kopitiam square fish soup
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/eat-drink-man-woman-16/sengkang-kopitiam-square-fish-soup-4784917.html
Why would they put in such a high bid back then? That just bewilders me. Don't they do their market research? Hmm...
http://www.sammyboy.com/archive/index.php/t-75211.html
http://frugalintrovert.blogspot.fr/2011/04/sengkang-kopitiam-sqs-absurb-prices.html
Why would they put in such a high bid back then? That just bewilders me. Don't they do their market research? Hmm...
We need HDB Pte Ltd to understand why they put in such a high bid.
http://www.ytlcommunity.com/commnews/shownews.asp?newsid=55780
It opened in December and the $12million market was billed as the first one here with a supermarket ambience: The place is equipped with an air-cleaning system that offers better ventilation, and eliminates the odours and wet floors traditionally associated with wet markets.
Now, at least 15 out of the 60 food stalls and three wet market stalls out of 48 have moved out.
Total stall = 60+48.
If all the stall rent out the same rental SGD 500,100 / 108 = 4630.55 per month
Indeed, the monthly rent for a stall there is between $2,000 and $6,000
Wow ........
Did not know nowaday can make soooooooo much profit.
Wet Market and Hawker center should not be privatized!
Who made the decision to privatized our wet market and hawker center show not be voted on the next election!
Singaporeans all should stand up on this!
Privatisation is good. Let market forces prevail. :victorious:
Privatisation is good. Let market forces prevail. :victorious:
Fully and absolutely agree with you, can I know which is the nearest wet market and hawker center you often visit or maybe you don't visit them at all.
Most probably they will apply to convert that failed wet market into an attas "kopitiam finest" and charge expensive prices.
i guess people like to go back to the old rickidy dirty wet market that have tiles falling off and blacken bricks everywhere. thats the type of wet market people want. Give it to them mah!
Most probably they will apply to convert that failed wet market into an attas "kopitiam finest" and charge expensive prices.
then let the finger do the walking. go NTUC buy a bag of 3in1. drink all we want. Not happy with the price dont patronize it. Dont like the hawker food? tar bao from home. That what many people do overseas anyway they bring thier own sandwich and pasta and microwave it in office.
There are some very well run and kept hdb markets like Toa Payoh, Ang Mo Kio and Ghim Moh. Business is thriving and there are lots of good food stalls. Those are examples of their good work and I think they beat these privatised markets hands down, heh.
When we get bunch of well educated, smart asshole who never visit the wet market and eat at the hawker center to decide how to run it, this is what we will get.
Then we as an asshole MP to support them.
Why must they be vote out, in order to understand some basic rule.
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“The illiterate of the twenty-first century will
not be those who cannot read and write, but
those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn.”
– Alvin Toffler
Here is some further information for those who like to dig deeper into the subject of hawker center management in Singapore.
http://app2.nea.gov.sg/corporate-functions/newsroom/news-releases/patrons-to-continue-to-enjoy-affordable-food-at-four-hawker-centres-whose-leases-expire-on-31-may-2014
From my own observation, over the last 10 odd years, the crowds that used to visit many hawker centers have thinned out (but not disappeared altogether). I for one, love visiting hawker centers because they provide the cheapest form of food with the widest variety in any neighborhood.
The following are different models that have been undertaken by NEA, many with limited success rates:
1) outsource the whole place to a master tenant (ie, like Kopitiam)
- result food prices rise drastically and many stallholders end up going out of business, eventually making this model non-viable
2) Management of hawker centers by social enterprises (ie, non-profit organizations)
- result, concept has already failed in the few places where it has been tried
3) NEA directly renting out stalls , usually at subsidized rates to people who qualify under certain schemes (normally old people)
- result, many hawker stalls do not stay open throughout the day. When you rent out stalls at $100 per month, there really is no incentive for people to keep their stalls open for long hours. In many of the directly managed hawker centers, you will realize most stalls only open for b/fast, then they close-shop. I feel this is is great disservice to the residents.
4) Interestingly, many of the hawker centers that have been sold off to individuals on a 20 year lease (as can be found in the link above) are fairly robust hawker centers. Many stalls do brisk business, and these hawker centers remain vibrant throughout the day (of course there may be few exceptions).
I also concur with some of the comments on this forum, that just because the issue is 'complex', we should not let NEA off easily, because we do pay our planners very well to come out with solutions that maximize the benefits for the neighborhood hawker centers and the residents.
When we get bunch of well educated, smart asshole who never visit the wet market and eat at the hawker center to decide how to run it, this is what we will get.
Then we as an asshole MP to support them.
Why must they be vote out, in order to understand some basic rule.
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“The illiterate of the twenty-first century will
not be those who cannot read and write, but
those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn.”
– Alvin Toffler
When u cannot rent out your condo in future don't blame worker party ok. It is because u support their style. I predict southbank to crash 30% if wp takeover sg.
Not to mention how much will Terrasse drop. No Tenant no rent yield becuase they will chase ur tenants out of sg. If wp don't they will get voted out.
When u cannot rent out your condo in future don't blame worker party ok. It is because u support their style. I predict southbank to crash 30% if wp takeover sg.
Not to mention how much will Terrasse drop. No Tenant no rent yield becuase they will chase ur tenants out of sg. If wp don't they will get voted out.
Maybe you would like to spend a bit of time knowing what is Singapore.
*前进吧*新加坡*Majulah*Singapura*
https://www.youtube.com/user/tch88888/videos
When we get bunch of well educated, smart asshole who never visit the wet market and eat at the hawker center to decide how to run it, this is what we will get.
Then we as an asshole MP to support them.
Why must they be vote out, in order to understand some basic rule.
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“The illiterate of the twenty-first century will
not be those who cannot read and write, but
those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn.”
– Alvin Toffler
When its not broken don't mean no improvement are needed. And with improvement come cost. Question is people want improvement but expect them to fall from the sky free.
Here is some further information for those who like to dig deeper into the subject of hawker center management in Singapore.
http://app2.nea.gov.sg/corporate-functions/newsroom/news-releases/patrons-to-continue-to-enjoy-affordable-food-at-four-hawker-centres-whose-leases-expire-on-31-may-2014
From my own observation, over the last 10 odd years, the crowds that used to visit many hawker centers have thinned out (but not disappeared altogether). I for one, love visiting hawker centers because they provide the cheapest form of food with the widest variety in any neighborhood.
The following are different models that have been undertaken by NEA, many with limited success rates:
1) outsource the whole place to a master tenant (ie, like Kopitiam)
- result food prices rise drastically and many stallholders end up going out of business, eventually making this model non-viable
2) Management of hawker centers by social enterprises (ie, non-profit organizations)
- result, concept has already failed in the few places where it has been tried
3) NEA directly renting out stalls , usually at subsidized rates to people who qualify under certain schemes (normally old people)
- result, many hawker stalls do not stay open throughout the day. When you rent out stalls at $100 per month, there really is no incentive for people to keep their stalls open for long hours. In many of the directly managed hawker centers, you will realize most stalls only open for b/fast, then they close-shop. I feel this is is great disservice to the residents.
4) Interestingly, many of the hawker centers that have been sold off to individuals on a 20 year lease (as can be found in the link above) are fairly robust hawker centers. Many stalls do brisk business, and these hawker centers remain vibrant throughout the day (of course there may be few exceptions).
I also concur with some of the comments on this forum, that just because the issue is 'complex', we should not let NEA off easily, because we do pay our planners very well to come out with solutions that maximize the benefits for the neighborhood hawker centers and the residents.
Crowd thin could also be people prefer to of food court which is air con. I know many who choose the later becoz its air con. We have a strawberry generation these days. a bit of sun and handwork all cannot take it one mah.
Maybe you would like to spend a bit of time knowing what is Singapore.
*前进吧*新加坡*Majulah*Singapura*
https://www.youtube.com/user/tch88888/videos
I know what singapore is. Singapore is a city where the people all have good life. no famine no natural disaster no resources . But a generation have emerged with Good life build on the foundation of previous generation hard work. So they got nothing better to do than whine n complain about everything under the stars. Its a city where the generation of people have become complacent that think they are on top of the world and everything are GOD given. It must be all free and good raining from the skies. Its a city where the people mind set should have grown with time but instead have regressed to piety what I haves and I don't and what I can't get u shan't to.
Yesh Majulah.. Singapura.. no wonder the merlion puke..... Must have seen this generation coming.
I know what singapore is. Singapore is a city where the people all have good life. no famine no natural disaster no resources . But a generation have emerged with Good life build on the foundation of previous generation hard work. So they got nothing better to do than whine n complain about everything under the stars. Its a city where the generation of people have become complacent that think they are on top of the world and everything are GOD given. It must be all free and good raining from the skies. Its a city where the people mind set should have grown with time but instead have regressed to piety what I haves and I don't and what I can't get u shan't to.
Yesh Majulah.. Singapura.. no wonder the merlion puke..... Must have seen this generation coming.
Everyone know what Singapore is, problem is how much they know.
It the same as Everyone know what Money is, problem is how much they know.
I still don't know what is Money, why a piece of paper printed with picture and words got value?
I go to the Bank and tell them I have a condo brought for SGD 535,000 and they loan me SGD 660,000 ??????????
Everyone know what Singapore is, problem is how much they know.
It the same as Everyone know what Money is, problem is how much they know.
I still don't know what is Money, why a piece of paper printed with picture and words got value?
I go to the Bank and tell them I have a condo brought for SGD 535,000 and they loan me SGD 660,000 ??????????
If u don't know what money is i suggest u give it all to the poor, sell your two condo give it all bro.
Money in this World belong to this World, whether I give to the poor or rich still belong to this world.
You can give a million to the poor, do you think they know how to spend.
http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/more-singapore-stories/story/1m-gone-2-years-widow-now-broke-20140608
$1m gone in one year: Widow of killed Changi Airport worker is now broke
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/more-singapore-stories/story/1m-gone-2-years-widow-now-broke-20140608#sthash.feKcZBRX.dpuf
Actually what people want is simple, some can go aircon food court to eat, other people can go hawker centre to eat.
If you make hawker centre same price as aircon food court, then people got no choice but to cry father cry mother.
Money in this World belong to this World, whether I give to the poor or rich still belong to this world.
You can give a million to the poor, do you think they know how to spend.
http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/more-singapore-stories/story/1m-gone-2-years-widow-now-broke-20140608
$1m gone in one year: Widow of killed Changi Airport worker is now broke
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/more-singapore-stories/story/1m-gone-2-years-widow-now-broke-20140608#sthash.feKcZBRX.dpuf
http://www.noomii.com/blog/3287-when-giving-hurts-a-guide-to-thinking-through-our-giving-choices
Give a man a fish and teach him to fish too
Actually what people want is simple, some can go aircon food court to eat, other people can go hawker centre to eat.
If you make hawker centre same price as aircon food court, then people got no choice but to cry father cry mother.
Today haweker center price is not same as food court. what people are cry father cry mother is they expect food court price to be same as hawker center price.
Everyone know what Singapore is, problem is how much they know.
It the same as Everyone know what Money is, problem is how much they know.
I still don't know what is Money, why a piece of paper printed with picture and words got value?
I go to the Bank and tell them I have a condo brought for SGD 535,000 and they loan me SGD 660,000 ??????????
I also suggest if u dont know wat money is then give it all to the poor. then perhaps when u dont have the paper with picture u will understand what the paper with picture means?
I also suggest if u dont know wat money is then give it all to the poor. then perhaps when u dont have the paper with picture u will understand what the paper with picture means?
Life is more than just paper with picture.
http://www.emeraldecocity.com/Worthless%20U.S.%20Dollars%20Used%20For%20Toilet%20Paper.jpg
With our changing economic times, everyone is asking for help in some form. There are as many reasons to give as there are ways to give.
Some people give for recognition. They want their names in programs, on park benches and in hospital lobbies. Others give expecting to be paid back or thanked, they give to get. Some people want a hands-on-experience and are generous with their time. Some like to give anonymously and don’t want any recognition at all.
People who truly master the art of giving give out of the goodness of their hearts with no self-serving motives. Giving becomes a blessing for the giver and receiver.
It’s human nature to believe, “When I have more I’ll give more.” If you come from this mentality you never have enough of anything to give.
Generosity is a choice that feels right and joyful. Generosity comes from believing you have enough to share.
The following are gifts we all have that can benefit others.
1. Give of Your Talents
Give someone an hour of coaching, a signed copy of your book or a golf lesson. Can you offer child care? Or do you have plumbing, painting, or landscaping skills?
Give things. Clean your home and clear out your closet of unwanted things. Give what you don’t use or need to charity. Your junk is someone else’s treasure.
2. Give blood.
Save a life. I’ve done this on several occasions; it’s a great feeling to know you are helping to save someone’s life.
3. Give of yourself.
Make someone feel loved, special and appreciated with a visit, phone call, email, text or card. Give a hand made gift. Give praise, gratitude and appreciation. This creates heart-to-heart connections.
4. Give someone a lift.
When you encounter a quotation or a good news story, pass it on with a personal “thinking of you” note. This is spirit-lifting. It can make someone’s day. Today hand written notes and cards are rare gifts.
5. Give a recommendation.
Enrich someone’s life by sharing the discovery of a great blog, book, restaurant, product or service. The message you give is “This was a great find for me and I want to share it with you.”
6. Give the gift of laughter.
Laughter brings health and happiness to others. It offers physiological, psychological and spiritual benefits. Laugh loud and laugh often with everyone.
7. Give an invitation.
Being invited to any kind of event means people want to be with you. When you invite someone into your life you are saying, “I want to spend time with you, you are important to me.
8. Give affection.
Appropriately offer a hug, a kiss on the cheek, a pat on the back, a touch on an arm or a tender look. We never lose the need for affection and acceptance. Touching heals emotional wounds.
9. Give good advice.
Ask the question, “Do you want advice or to you want me to listen.” If needed and wanted advice can be life-saving. Shared insights and wisdom is a precious gift.
10. Give encouragement.
When people are filled with doubt and fear they lack courage. When you inspire and motivate someone to act on their dreams, it can be life changing. You are making the world a better place.
11. Give without keeping score.
Real giving is expecting nothing in return. Give when you have the opportunity not because you received something and want to return the favor. Never hesitate to give because you gave last.
12. Give forgiveness.
Forgiveness offers healing to family, friends, coworkers and neighbors. Forgive yourself and others in spite of memories of unlovable times. Drop the story of what they did and what you did and the meaning you have given it.
13. Give money.
Giving stuff is easy. We usually don’t need or want it… But almost everyone likes to hang on to their money. Giving away money is more difficult because it means less for you. Give money because others need it. Give money because we’re dependent on one another.
14. Give An Act Of Kindness.
Kindness is the easiest and most abundant gift we have to give away. Buy Girl Scout cookies, always open the door for the person behind you, return your grocery cart, make cookies for your neighbor. The list is endless. Kindness brings joy to the giver, receiver and anyone witnessing the act!
15. Give love.
It’s easy to love those who love us back. Challenge yourself to give love to those who deserve it the least. Make your love unconditional. Make the world a more loving place. Everyone will reap the benefits!
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darkseed73
10-09-14, 14:36
I think the main message (which is lost) is Singaporeans wants what's "Value for Money"
I have travel a lot, I am happy to pay if what i was given is value for money.
The problem with Kopitiam is they charge high rental causing the food stalls to charge inflated prices without considering the "value" they are giving to customers.
Maybe some businessman think Singaporeans are idiots or stupid but most of us will only be fooled once.
Who allow the business to over-charge in rental in the first place? Those ppl should be answerable for it.
The problem with Singapore is nobody is accountable for mistake made up there and the people have to suffer.
I don't think having opposition will cause big changes to Singapore but at least somebody can be answerable for mistakes.
In the 70's, cleaner start work at 5 a.m. and stop work at 12 noon in HDB estate, some take second job and they are happy.
Now some smart asshole think HDB cleaning should work from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.
Hawker Center, wet market and shop house was once part of HDB estate, fast forward the same smart asshole think otherwise.
When your get people who stay in private property and ask them to plan for people who stay in HDB, guess this will happen.
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She explained: “We have looked at the prices at Sengkang. I have been there personally. I have looked at the prices and they are comparable to any hawker centre in the neighbourhood – $3 for a plate of chicken rice and 90 cents for a cup of coffee. I do not think we can consider that exorbitant.”
Before you start cooking you pay this $4,000 to $6,000 a month at Lavender Food Square, and will pay at least $8,000 a month at their new locations.
SINGAPORE - Five months after the famous Longhouse food centre in Upper Thomson Road closed, it is time to bid farewell to another hawker institution.
Lavender Food Square's last day of operations is on Sept 30, a week longer than the original Sept 23 date. The extension was made because of customer demand.
The iconic food centre and neighbouring Eminent Plaza, both built in the 1980s, will make way for a 16-storey freehold development called ARC 380, which is slated to be ready by 2018.
Located at the junction of Lavender Street and Jalan Besar, the hawker centre - which houses 35 stalls - used to be called Bugis Square. It closed for renovations in 1990 due to drainage problems, and reopened in 1992 as Lavender Food Square.
Unlike the closure of Longhouse, where the hawkers moved to two locations - Balestier Market and Broadway Coffee Shop, next to Jalan Besar Stadium - the Lavender Food Square hawkers are moving to several coffee shops and food centres.
Old-timers lament the closure of the food centre, saying they regard one another as friends, even family.
With the deadline to move looming, many stalls are still undecided about their future. Hawkers say high rentals and smaller shop spaces are among the problems they face in looking for new premises.
The Straits Times understands that hawkers currently pay rental of $4,000 to $6,000 a month at Lavender Food Square, and will pay at least $8,000 a month at their new locations.
Popular stalls such as Kok Kee Wanton Noodle, Whitley Road Fishball Noodle and Eminent Frog Porridge are still uncertain about where they will move to.
And, if they cannot find a suitable location, both Albert Street Prawn Noodle and Pei Yun Hong Kong Tim Sum are likely to close for good.
In the meantime, Somboon Thai Food is looking to move to a coffee shop in Bedok.
Other locations in Lavender include a coffee shop in King George's Avenue, Broadway Coffee Shop, and a former restaurant now being renovated into a coffee shop at Hoa Nam Building, next to Lavender Food Square.
Tan Beng Yen, who has been at Lavender Food Square since it opened and sells char kway teow and Hokkien mee, wants to stay in the area for her regular customers.
She will be moving to Broadway Coffee Shop.
She says in Mandarin: "Business at Lavender Food Square has always been good and all of us have been working very hard all these years. Just because the hawker centre is closing doesn't mean we stop cooking for our customers. I hope they will look for me."
Other stalls, which are branches of their main outlets, are moving resources back to the flagship.
These include 98 Bread at Block 19, Toa Payoh Lorong 7 and Kin Turtle Soup, whose flagship outlet is in Geylang Lorong 35. Kin Turtle Soup at Lavender Food Square closes next Monday.
Two stalls - Macpherson Barbeque Seafood and Miow Sin Popiah - will move to Balestier Market.
Ong Chin Quay, 60, of Miow Sin Popiah, will reunite with fellow Longhouse hawkers at Balestier Market.
The hawker, affectionately known as Ah Kai, has been making popiah for 34 years, first in Boon Keng Road in 1980, then at Longhouse food centre from 1985 to 1999.
He says in Mandarin: "It is definitely a pity because after all these years, everyone has become friends. But I also have friends in Balestier, since they are also from Longhouse."
Diners, too, lament the loss of their foodie haunt.
Logistics officer Ian Ferroa, 30, dines at Lavender Food Square two to three times a week.
He says: "Some of my favourite foods are popiah, fried carrot cake and prawn noodles. I come on weekdays when it's not so crowded and there's lots of seating available."
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- See more at: http://www.soshiok.com/content/times-foodie-haunt-lavender#sthash.mwsBHO8r.dpuf
darkseed73
10-09-14, 15:48
In the 70's, cleaner start work at 5 a.m. and stop work at 12 noon in HDB estate, some take second job and they are happy.
Now some smart asshole think HDB cleaning should work from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.
Hawker Center, wet market and shop house was once part of HDB estate, fast forward the same smart asshole think otherwise.
When your get people who stay in private property and ask them to plan for people who stay in HDB, guess this will happen.
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She explained: “We have looked at the prices at Sengkang. I have been there personally. I have looked at the prices and they are comparable to any hawker centre in the neighbourhood – $3 for a plate of chicken rice and 90 cents for a cup of coffee. I do not think we can consider that exorbitant.”
U are quoting the same woman whom feel million dollar salary is too little.
https://www.facebook.com/gracefu.hy/posts/227076997368383
The people do not forget because it has become obvious the gap between the people and govt is there and making "wayang" changes from weekend cars, lease back program would not change the fact that ppl wants leaders whom walk the ground and talk the talk. Depending on grassroots (whom basically like to "tripod") for ground sentimentals is just not good enough any more.
Before you start cooking you pay this $4,000 to $6,000 a month at Lavender Food Square, and will pay at least $8,000 a month at their new locations.
SINGAPORE - Five months after the famous Longhouse food centre in Upper Thomson Road closed, it is time to bid farewell to another hawker institution.
Lavender Food Square's last day of operations is on Sept 30, a week longer than the original Sept 23 date. The extension was made because of customer demand.
The iconic food centre and neighbouring Eminent Plaza, both built in the 1980s, will make way for a 16-storey freehold development called ARC 380, which is slated to be ready by 2018.
Located at the junction of Lavender Street and Jalan Besar, the hawker centre - which houses 35 stalls - used to be called Bugis Square. It closed for renovations in 1990 due to drainage problems, and reopened in 1992 as Lavender Food Square.
Unlike the closure of Longhouse, where the hawkers moved to two locations - Balestier Market and Broadway Coffee Shop, next to Jalan Besar Stadium - the Lavender Food Square hawkers are moving to several coffee shops and food centres.
Old-timers lament the closure of the food centre, saying they regard one another as friends, even family.
With the deadline to move looming, many stalls are still undecided about their future. Hawkers say high rentals and smaller shop spaces are among the problems they face in looking for new premises.
The Straits Times understands that hawkers currently pay rental of $4,000 to $6,000 a month at Lavender Food Square, and will pay at least $8,000 a month at their new locations.
Popular stalls such as Kok Kee Wanton Noodle, Whitley Road Fishball Noodle and Eminent Frog Porridge are still uncertain about where they will move to.
And, if they cannot find a suitable location, both Albert Street Prawn Noodle and Pei Yun Hong Kong Tim Sum are likely to close for good.
In the meantime, Somboon Thai Food is looking to move to a coffee shop in Bedok.
Other locations in Lavender include a coffee shop in King George's Avenue, Broadway Coffee Shop, and a former restaurant now being renovated into a coffee shop at Hoa Nam Building, next to Lavender Food Square.
Tan Beng Yen, who has been at Lavender Food Square since it opened and sells char kway teow and Hokkien mee, wants to stay in the area for her regular customers.
She will be moving to Broadway Coffee Shop.
She says in Mandarin: "Business at Lavender Food Square has always been good and all of us have been working very hard all these years. Just because the hawker centre is closing doesn't mean we stop cooking for our customers. I hope they will look for me."
Other stalls, which are branches of their main outlets, are moving resources back to the flagship.
These include 98 Bread at Block 19, Toa Payoh Lorong 7 and Kin Turtle Soup, whose flagship outlet is in Geylang Lorong 35. Kin Turtle Soup at Lavender Food Square closes next Monday.
Two stalls - Macpherson Barbeque Seafood and Miow Sin Popiah - will move to Balestier Market.
Ong Chin Quay, 60, of Miow Sin Popiah, will reunite with fellow Longhouse hawkers at Balestier Market.
The hawker, affectionately known as Ah Kai, has been making popiah for 34 years, first in Boon Keng Road in 1980, then at Longhouse food centre from 1985 to 1999.
He says in Mandarin: "It is definitely a pity because after all these years, everyone has become friends. But I also have friends in Balestier, since they are also from Longhouse."
Diners, too, lament the loss of their foodie haunt.
Logistics officer Ian Ferroa, 30, dines at Lavender Food Square two to three times a week.
He says: "Some of my favourite foods are popiah, fried carrot cake and prawn noodles. I come on weekdays when it's not so crowded and there's lots of seating available."
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8000/30 = 266.66
266.66/4 = 67
Each day need to sell minimum 67 plate on chicken rice to get break event. This not include Utility bill yet.
In the 70's, cleaner start work at 5 a.m. and stop work at 12 noon in HDB estate, some take second job and they are happy.
Now some smart asshole think HDB cleaning should work from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.
Hawker Center, wet market and shop house was once part of HDB estate, fast forward the same smart asshole think otherwise.
When your get people who stay in private property and ask them to plan for people who stay in HDB, guess this will happen.
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She explained: “We have looked at the prices at Sengkang. I have been there personally. I have looked at the prices and they are comparable to any hawker centre in the neighbourhood – $3 for a plate of chicken rice and 90 cents for a cup of coffee. I do not think we can consider that exorbitant.”
$3 rice n 90 cent Kopi is expensive? ???
In the 70's, cleaner start work at 5 a.m. and stop work at 12 noon in HDB estate, some take second job and they are happy.
Now some smart asshole think HDB cleaning should work from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.
Hawker Center, wet market and shop house was once part of HDB estate, fast forward the same smart asshole think otherwise.
When your get people who stay in private property and ask them to plan for people who stay in HDB, guess this will happen.
http://2x43di7fqtr1359hx1tnjj0te6.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/gf.jpg
She explained: “We have looked at the prices at Sengkang. I have been there personally. I have looked at the prices and they are comparable to any hawker centre in the neighbourhood – $3 for a plate of chicken rice and 90 cents for a cup of coffee. I do not think we can consider that exorbitant.”
the people expectation in the 70s n now the 2014 have changed and moved on . To taje the 70s as benchmark without taking the 70s expectation is like comparing Apple n Orange.
In the 70s pple can accept squatting on rickety stool by the road eating bowls of noodle washed from pails or recycled water.
As the current generation to do that they tell u are nuts.
Now must be air con , presention must look good, must have queue means good. Any yes people want value for $. But what do that mean? Everyone also want value for $ not just the consumer. The land Lord , the worker , the hawker n the consumers. So what is that?
Fact is pple can afford it. It's just they want value for $. But this are feely things means different things to different pple.
8000/30 = 266.66
266.66/4 = 67
Each day need to sell minimum 67 plate on chicken rice to get break event. This not include Utility bill yet.
So it means that is not the type of biz the coffee shop in the area wants. But if the coffee shop attracts not the right crowd for a high end food joint it won't succeed in renting out either. It's a business market demand n supply factor. If in the area pple only willing to pay $3. Then a shop selling $4 won't survive. N if the shop don't survive eventually no one will take up the rent either.
Chicken n egg
http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2014/04/private-hawker-centres-low-thia-khiang-sounded-warning/
http://lkyspp.nus.edu.sg/ips/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/04/AG_history-of-hawkers_010511.pdf
Don't call it a hawker Centre, Wet market when you want to get the most from the rental of the store.
Same go to Public transport, If you want to get the maximum profit from transporting people it is not public transport it is private transport and everyone with a Bus can do the transport.
$1.1 BILLION PACKAGE TO EXPAND BUS CAPACITY – WHO ARE WE SUBSIDISING?
http://www.mof.gov.sg/budget_2012/rus7.html
Do we need a repeat of 2011 election for the government to understand what is public and what is private.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-22506475
History of Singapore's hawker centres
Many migrants in the 1950s and early 1960s took up street hawking
The Singaporean government became concerned about hygiene standards and conducted an island-wide registration of street hawkers from 1968-9
The government started building food courts with cleaning facilities and basic amenities in the 1970s
All street food traders were relocated into newly built hawker centres close to residential areas in the 1980s
Source: National Environment Agency; Daniel Wang, former Public Health Commissioner
http://remembersingapore.wordpress.com/2012/08/27/singapores-vanished-markets-and-hawker-centres/
Then one day some smart asshole start to think they should get the most from renting the store and start a Bidding exercise.
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http://app.mewr.gov.sg/data/ImgCont/1655/PCP%20Recommendation%20Report.pdf
REPORT OF THE
HAWKER CENTRES PUBLIC CONSULTATION PANEL
Executive Summary
Background
In recent years, there has been increased public discussion on the cost of living, of
which food costs are a major part. In view of this, the Government announced in October
2011 that about 10 new hawker centres will be built in the next 10 years to increase the
provision of affordable food. This increase would have a dampening effect on curbing future
increases in food cost.
The Public Consultation Panel on Hawker Centres was formed in November 2011 to
provide ideas on the new hawker centres and comprises 18 representatives from different
social enterprises and industries.
The Panel welcomes the government’s decision to build new hawker centres and
undertake a review of existing policies to ensure the new generation of hawker centres
continue to meet the needs of the residents – primarily to ensure food prices remain
affordable. The panel’s recommendations cover three key areas, namely, Management
Model, Design, and Vibrancy and Social Graciousness.
The last hawker centre was built in 1985 when the resettlement of street hawkers
was completed. Since then, the Government has focused its efforts on upgrading and
rejuvenating existing hawker centres over $420 million has been invested in improving the
dining and marketing environment under the Hawker Centres Upgrading Programme (HUP).
In recent years, there has been renewed public attention on hawker centres. The
economic downturn a few years ago brought greater attention to the cost of food and its
significant impact on the overall cost of living in Singapore. There has also been public
demand for more hawker centres in housing estates where there is a lack of affordable
dining options.
SINGAPORE: Free Wifi, cashless payments, and healthier food options will be on the menu for residents when a new hawker centre at the Bedok town centre is completed in October. The food centre is in its final stage of construction and will replace the existing, smaller hawker centre at Block 207, New Upper Changi Road.
The new hawker centre can accommodate 1,000 people compared to about 900 currently.
At the new hawker centre, high-volume, low-speed fans will keep diners cool while being more energy-efficient than regular ceiling fans. Odours will also be removed through a centralised electrostatic exhaust air cleaner system.
Such features will enable diners to enjoy their food in a more comfortable setting.
Diners can go cashless too as the hawker centre will be equipped to offer the option of paying with the NETS contactless card. They will also be able to surf the internet while having a coffee with the Wireless@SG service.
The Health Promotion Board will also work with hawkers there to make healthier food choices more readily available. Adjacent to the hawker centre will also be a multi-storey carpark with more than 400 lots, which is 200 more than the current parking facility.
These details were revealed at a topping-out ceremony on Saturday to mark the hawker centre's final stage of construction.
But will added benefits come with a higher price tag on your food?
Lee Yi Shyan, senior minister of state for national development and MP for East Coast GRC, said: "For the first-generation stall-holders they are only paying S$340. And for those that are non first-generation, they continue to operate within S$2,100 to S$2,400 monthly rental. It's a huge discount.
"I think the government has done its part to make sure this place is very affordable in terms of rental. In fact if you rent it out freely in the market, rental will be much higher. So we hope this low rental price will translate into low food costs."
And while hawkers are getting bigger stall space, not all are willing to go cashless.
A hawker, who declined to be named, said: "There'll be charges incurred, and not quite sustainable for a hawker... I don't think it's the main way of payment for our customers when they're eating at a hawker centre. And maybe some old people won't even have it."
Bedok residents will get a new integrated transport hub which will link the bus interchange and MRT station to Bedok mall. It will be ready by the fourth quarter of 2014, and is expected to serve some 40,000 commuters daily.
When the new hawker centre is ready, the current one will be redeveloped into a town plaza and heritage corner. All this is part of the second phase of the Remaking Our Heartland programme -- to rejuvenate mature estates.
- CNA/ac
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/free-wifi-cashless/1238748.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-22506475
History of Singapore's hawker centres
Many migrants in the 1950s and early 1960s took up street hawking
The Singaporean government became concerned about hygiene standards and conducted an island-wide registration of street hawkers from 1968-9
The government started building food courts with cleaning facilities and basic amenities in the 1970s
All street food traders were relocated into newly built hawker centres close to residential areas in the 1980s
Source: National Environment Agency; Daniel Wang, former Public Health Commissioner
http://remembersingapore.wordpress.com/2012/08/27/singapores-vanished-markets-and-hawker-centres/
Then one day some smart asshole start to think they should get the most from renting the store and start a Bidding exercise.
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yes in the current era of 2014 there are a new generation of youngster dieing to take up hawkering at hawker centers. And the generation of parents all aspiring that their children should go become a char koay tiao hawker. Yes so many out there want to do it.. Boleh!!!!!
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