View Full Version : The Clift (D1, 99 years, Far East Org)
devilplate
06-04-11, 10:34
haha,,,will sure invite some 1 shenton ppl in here for a good WWE....
bro, ur inbox full
shauntanzs
06-04-11, 16:19
compARE 1 shenton vs clift....which one better hah ?
Both are good project lah.
It depends on what the tenant is looking for and where his office is nearer to haha..
bro, ur inbox full
ok cleared
bro, ur inbox full
ok cleared liao...
after looking @ the 1 bedders bedroom with glass wall or concrete wall layout,i must say the concrete wall bedroom layout is much better imo..though it seems bigger with glass wall effect,u will need to build blinds or curtains to cover up the bedroom..concrete wall will be much more practical n will save u lots of hassle.:cheers6: :cheers6: just my :2cents: :2cents:
devilplate
08-04-11, 17:50
after looking @ the 1 bedders bedroom with glass wall or concrete wall layout,i must say the concrete wall bedroom layout is much better imo..though it seems bigger with glass wall effect,u will need to build blinds or curtains to cover up the bedroom..concrete wall will be much more practical n will save u lots of hassle.:cheers6: :cheers6: just my :2cents: :2cents:
so u window shop shop recently? lol
spotted some potential window shoppers lately....hehe
so u window shop shop recently? lol
spotted some potential window shoppers lately....hehe
ya,went couple of times already. have seen all the layouts but all low floor units.,wonder what the view will be like for those above #20? personally,i find the view on the swimming pool side is nicer but agents said those facing conservation side more costly due to east facing.:rolleyes:
devilplate
08-04-11, 18:19
ya,went couple of times already. have seen all the layouts but all low floor units.,wonder what the view will be like for those above #20? personally,i find the view on the swimming pool side is nicer but agents said those facing conservation side more costly due to east facing.:rolleyes:
wow....couple of times? u got a unit there?
swimming pool side got chance their view will be blocked in future....whereas the other side is zero....tats how i value it.....furthermore, depends u wana see pinnacle(high end HDB) or raffles place office buildings.....
but luckily, FEO super smart....place the pool facing the west.....the pool is sunny and looks yummy!:cheers1: lumiere pool sucky and dark dark.....
wow....couple of times? u got a unit there?
swimming pool side got chance their view will be blocked in future....whereas the other side is zero....tats how i value it.....furthermore, depends u wana see pinnacle(high end HDB) or raffles place office buildings.....
but luckily, FEO super smart....place the pool facing the west.....the pool is sunny and looks yummy!:cheers1: lumiere pool sucky and dark dark.....
how to buy? so expensive.:scared-1:
clift all above 1mil for 1 bedder.
looking forward to view 1 shenton now but just look look see see for fun only.:rolleyes:
my target is to get kembangan suites,still affordable there.
talking about sun,FEO also placed the pool in the icon on the west side,they are very good when it comes to all these details:cheers6: :cheers6:
how to buy? so expensive.:scared-1:
clift all above 1mil for 1 bedder.
looking forward to view 1 shenton now but just look look see see for fun only.:rolleyes:
my target is to get kembangan suites,still affordable there.
talking about sun,FEO also placed the pool in the icon on the west side,they are very good when it comes to all these details:cheers6: :cheers6:
Kembangan Suites - quite a few units already selling. What you waiting for? TOP?
Kembangan Suites - quite a few units already selling. What you waiting for? TOP?
i wanted to view the units 1st in KS but was told by agent the t.o.p delayed..:doh: not sure how long would be the waiting period? any idea?:cheers6:
i wanted to view the units 1st in KS but was told by agent the t.o.p delayed..:doh: not sure how long would be the waiting period? any idea?:cheers6:
Not sure. From the look of things should be few weeks ba. You sure wanna wait till Top? Price will rise another 15 to 20% then. Have you seen any other projects nearby? What do you like about KS?
devilplate
08-04-11, 22:26
DO 1 bedder much better den ks ;)
Not sure. From the look of things should be few weeks ba. You sure wanna wait till Top? Price will rise another 15 to 20% then. Have you seen any other projects nearby? What do you like about KS?
doubt KS will go up much once it t.op,at most 5%..clift also didnt move much upwards when it t.o.p recently,some units are still selling at same price as b4.
there is no need to rush into buying now,plenty to choose out there.its better to see the unit physically than looking at floorplans.
i like KS location, the mrt is almost at its doorsteps n yet shielded away fom the noise by kembangan plaza.;)
devilplate
08-04-11, 22:47
KS not many units... So asking px higher chance to go up once urgent sellers offloaded.... Clift got more units
Vy soon clift will start from 1.1mil ... Not many units below 1.1mil left
DO 1 bedder much better den ks ;)
got other aspects to consider..eg: D'Oasia abit far from the mrt compared to KS n for me personally i dont fancy projects beside religious properties.:tsk-tsk: :tsk-tsk:
got other aspects to consider..eg: D'Oasia abit far from the mrt compared to KS n for me personally i dont fancy projects beside religious properties.:tsk-tsk: :tsk-tsk:
Talk about religious - some of the units are staring right at the masjid along changi road, plus you get free 'music' when they do the prayers... They use loudspeakers. Guess either you get chinese temple dong dong qiang or chanting from mosque... Hard to choose between both.
Talk about religious - some of the units are staring right at the masjid along changi road, plus you get free 'music' when they do the prayers... They use loudspeakers. Guess either you get chinese temple dong dong qiang or chanting from mosque... Hard to choose between both.
if its staring directly,its a no-go for me also..
so which do u recommend? D'OASIA or KS? n why?;)
do not give your views if u are vested in either DO or KS..:D
devilplate
08-04-11, 23:13
if its staring directly,its a no-go for me also..
so which do u recommend? D'OSSIA or KS? n why?;)
if both same psf...my heart goes to DO.....better layout, better facilities, no retail shops below, no big longkang, KS will hf lots of pedestrian walking past the devt....however, KS strong point is literally next to MRT.....not vested in both:D
having said tat, i prefer devt along lor G TK near to longkang even though further from mrt...hehe
devilplate
08-04-11, 23:16
ok so much so for kembangan.....lets go bck to CBD...particularly the clift:D
OS asking px from 1.2mil for their smallest unit.....unless OS drop their asking px....clift got gd chance to start from 1.1mil soon:D
ok so much so for kembangan.....lets go bck to CBD...particularly the clift:D
OS asking px from 1.2mil for their smallest unit.....unless OS drop their asking px....clift got gd chance to start from 1.1mil soon:D
Bro looking to cash out or earn rental income?
devilplate
08-04-11, 23:22
Bro looking to cash out or earn rental income?
keeping....my wish list oredi mentioned more clift:D
if its staring directly,its a no-go for me also..
so which do u recommend? D'OASIA or KS? n why?;)
do not give your views if u are vested in either DO or KS..:D
I will not comment anymore since I trying to sell my unit in DO lol. ;-)
I will not comment anymore since I trying to sell my unit in DO lol. ;-)
ok ok,understand..
i forgot u have a unit @ DO. :cheers6: :cheers6:
the best would be to own a unit @ the sail,1 shenton,clift n to own n live in a conservation hse in cairnhill.:cheers6:
Which stack is the best? Stack 02 for 2 br. Stack 04 for 1 br.
thomastansb
11-04-11, 18:48
I think can buy from far east directly. They releasing units 30th floor onwards. Don't expect it to be cheap though. Hearsay 2.5 to 3k psf.
Which stack is the best? Stack 02 for 2 br. Stack 04 for 1 br.
Which stack is the best? Stack 02 for 2 br. Stack 04 for 1 br.
why not stack 6,8,10 n 12? arent they facing the same direction? :confused: :confused:
devilplate
12-04-11, 00:27
why not stack 6,8,10 n 12? arent they facing the same direction? :confused: :confused:
further away from tokio marine
why not stack 6,8,10 n 12? arent they facing the same direction? :confused: :confused:
Stack 2 can also see china town besides city view. Stack 10 & 12 next to bangkok bank which could be demolished anytime (hearsay) + very near to Tokyo building. The night view is very nice.
I think can buy from far east directly. They releasing units 30th floor onwards. Don't expect it to be cheap though. Hearsay 2.5 to 3k psf.
I seen the loft show unit for stack 2, very nice layout & view. But asking price is too high, wondering how is the respond.
devilplate
22-04-11, 00:28
2xth flr 2200psf sold, 1x flr 2090psf sold
inching up a little:D :cheers1:
thomastansb
22-04-11, 11:51
That makes it the highest psf and price in tg pagar now I assume?
Or should it compare to its D1 big brothers?
2xth flr 2200psf sold, 1x flr 2090psf sold
inching up a little:D :cheers1:
thomastansb
22-04-11, 11:53
Eh.. I received an SMS saying starting from 2.7k psf. Seriously, I don't think there will be a lot of takers but still, we know far east pattern. They can still find buyers and based on their history, they will either sell at 2.7k psf or they stop selling. They will rarely reduce their prices.
I seen the loft show unit for stack 2, very nice layout & view. But asking price is too high, wondering how is the respond.
shauntanzs
22-04-11, 12:56
With FEO holding the price for the loft units, I am pretty optimistic the price will hit 2300-2400psf very soon.
2xth flr 2200psf sold, 1x flr 2090psf sold
inching up a little:D :cheers1:
Devil have u found a tenant for ur unit yet ?
devilplate
22-04-11, 17:55
Devil have u found a tenant for ur unit yet ?
1unit...tenant moved in liao:D :p
That's pretty quick. U found tenant in less than 2mths?
devilplate
22-04-11, 18:44
That's pretty quick. U found tenant in less than 2mths?
less den 2wks:D
Chop chop sia... How u manage to do that? Coporate lease?
1unit...tenant moved in liao:D :p
Nice. Looks like the next icon ? Another stirling FEO development ;)
devilplate
22-04-11, 19:15
Nice. Looks like the next icon ? Another stirling FEO development ;)
icon gona suffer in terms of rental yield for a long time man.....skysuites prolly take 3yrs to complete and the front mega devt prolly takes 4-5yrs to complete
heard lumiere rental not too good.....the 6xxsqft 1+study asking below 4k:scared-3:
heard got icon owners sold icon and bot clift....:D
Condos will become old some day and will face the same fate as Icon some day.
icon gona suffer in terms of rental yield for a long time man.....skysuites prolly take 3yrs to complete and the front mega devt prolly takes 4-5yrs to complete
heard lumiere rental not too good.....the 6xxsqft 1+study asking below 4k:scared-3:
heard got icon owners sold icon and bot clift....:D
devilplate
23-04-11, 08:59
Condos will become old some day and will face the same fate as Icon some day.
definitely....but i am toking about the construction problems Icon is facing now
This is exactly what happen in the hillview area with a condo belt. It happening in Marine Parade area.
definitely....but i am toking about the construction problems Icon is facing now
definitely....but i am toking about the construction problems Icon is facing now
devil, is it a two yrs or 1 yr deal ?
kingkong1984
23-04-11, 21:42
This is exactly what happen in the hillview area with a condo belt. It happening in Marine Parade area.
Old means it loses it's shine
New and shiny very much in demand
Old and dirty meant as retirement bay lah
does this mean that we have to flip say every few years (maybe 6-8yrs) to keep the yields decent:confused:
kingkong1984
23-04-11, 21:59
Critical periods
Top time
Or 5 year Only.
Thereafter stale and follow inflation.
But gross rental yield is annual rental income/purchase price of condo. Every time when one change, the condo price will be higher unless you catch the lows of the cycle. Sometimes older ones even though with lower rent has better yield than new ones.
does this mean that we have to flip say every few years (maybe 6-8yrs) to keep the yields decent:confused:
But gross rental yield is annual rental income/purchase price of condo. Every time when one change, the condo price will be higher unless you catch the lows of the cycle. Sometimes older ones even though with lower rent has better yield than new ones.
I base my rental yields on CURRENT price of the condo. Can't use purchase price because that's the old price, from too long ago.
Always have to compare with the alternatives investment opportunities after cashing out at current price.
Flipping has several advantages. Used to be able to get cash after getting another property (20% down) if the original unit has appreciated. Not so easy now with 40% down.
Transaction cost is the other concern....
devilplate
10-05-11, 11:19
FEO selling all their 72 fully furnished loft units at the clift....from 2700psf onwards
:D :D :D
Sure know how to generate $. Good for residents in Clift.
FEO selling all their 72 fully furnished loft units at the clift....from 2700psf onwards
:D :D :D
FEO selling all their 72 fully furnished loft units at the clift....from 2700psf onwards
:D :D :D
What were be rental and rental yield be like for loft units? Must be terrible.
devilplate
10-05-11, 11:48
What were be rental and rental yield be like for loft units? Must be terrible.
eventually there will be carrot head being lured into the trap....
u can check out The Cape.....how do u explain ??? :beats-me-man:
back to peak peak 07 prices...FEO managed to sell non-loft units 1bedder at around 22xxpsf.......while subsale was only ard 15xx-16xxpsf....LOL
eventually there will be carrot head being lured into the trap....
u can check out The Cape.....how do u explain ??? :beats-me-man:
back to peak peak 07 prices...FEO managed to sell non-loft units 1bedder at around 22xxpsf.......while subsale was only ard 15xx-16xxpsf....LOL
Interesting, I remembered FEO a few times promote in Indonesia. Also got give rental guarantee. But not sure whether it is Cape or other projects. Perhaps carrotheads is fellow indons.
Anyway by FEO price high, does it pull subsale prices higher?
devilplate
10-05-11, 12:36
Interesting, I remembered FEO a few times promote in Indonesia. Also got give rental guarantee. But not sure whether it is Cape or other projects. Perhaps carrotheads is fellow indons.
Anyway by FEO price high, does it pull subsale prices higher?
not much effect but at least providing some price support:D
Just heard from my relatives.
FEO launched Clift loft units in Indonesia. from 2600-2900.
Rental guarantee 2 years at 5%.
At 2600psf, that is rental 10.83psf. :eek:.
Either that or FEO used your own money to pay you back :D.
They will use the cash from the Indo to invest in higher returns investment tool to pay partially for the 10.83psf. I am sure they have the muscle and opportunities.
Just heard from my relatives.
FEO launched Clift loft units in Indonesia. from 2600-2900.
Rental guarantee 2 years at 5%.
At 2600psf, that is rental 10.83psf. :eek:.
Either that or FEO used your own money to pay you back :D.
thomastansb
16-05-11, 14:12
Far East always like this, sell at sky prices and take it or leave it. They can sell 20 years and don't care if got buyer or not.
Btw, Altez already transacting > 2 million for studio loft. Some are as high as 2.3 million. 2 bedroom loft just sell one last month at 3.2 million. Wondering how come people can have that much money :scared-4::scared-4:
Just heard from my relatives.
FEO launched Clift loft units in Indonesia. from 2600-2900.
Rental guarantee 2 years at 5%.
At 2600psf, that is rental 10.83psf. :eek:.
Either that or FEO used your own money to pay you back :D.
They will use the cash from the Indo to invest in higher returns investment tool to pay partially for the 10.83psf. I am sure they have the muscle and opportunities.
Hehe
2600 @ 5% yield = 130psf per year = 10.83psf per month
2900 @ 5% yield = 145psf per year = 12.08psf per month
people don't smell a fish?
highest floor or lowest floor of loft units still same yield.
Big size or small size loft units also same yield.
Idespair of my countrymen if they really purchase from FEO.
thomastansb
16-05-11, 14:23
Currently, how much psf rental at Clift? If currently already $10 psf, then it is easy for far east to get $12 corporate lease.
Hehe
2600 @ 5% yield = 130psf per year = 10.83psf per month
2900 @ 5% yield = 145psf per year = 12.08psf per month
people don't smell a fish?
highest floor or lowest floor of loft units still same yield.
Big size or small size loft units also same yield.
Idespair of my countrymen if they really purchase from FEO.
devilplate
16-05-11, 14:38
Hehe
2600 @ 5% yield = 130psf per year = 10.83psf per month
2900 @ 5% yield = 145psf per year = 12.08psf per month
people don't smell a fish?
highest floor or lowest floor of loft units still same yield.
Big size or small size loft units also same yield.
Idespair of my countrymen if they really purchase from FEO.
Treat it as a form of rebate la....
Nthing new from feo la...:D
Better den buying 2600psf without rental guarantee rite? Hahaha
FEO is reducing the selling price for loft units as responses so so fr buyers. Non loft units (< 30 floor) interest @ even stack 2, 4, 6 seem to have good demand but minimum seller. Rental is dropping due to competition fr one shenton & other supplies in the mkt.
What is the rental ($psf) as URA release on rental would not have included clift?
FEO is reducing the selling price for loft units as responses so so fr buyers. Non loft units (< 30 floor) interest @ even stack 2, 4, 6 seem to have good demand but minimum seller. Rental is dropping due to competition fr one shenton & other supplies in the mkt.
$4.8k to $5.5k for 2 bedder @ 775 - 818 sf. $3.8k to $4k for 1 bedder @ about 500 sf.
What is the maintenance for a two bedder? Does it include carpark space?
$4.8k to $5.5k for 2 bedder @ 775 - 818 sf. $3.8k to $4k for 1 bedder @ about 500 sf.
What is the maintenance for a two bedder? Does it include carpark space?
Fee not incl car park. About $240 for 2 bedder.
Not bad. How many parking lots in total?
Fee not incl car park. About $240 for 2 bedder.
Not bad. How many parking lots in total?
Don't know but plenty. 2 to 9 floor all parking lot. Likely to sell to public @ $230.
Probably need to seek consent of the owners/MC when it is formed. Good revenue generation for the sinking fund.
Don't know but plenty. 2 to 9 floor all parking lot. Likely to sell to public @ $230.
devilplate
17-05-11, 13:09
Probably need to seek consent of the owners/MC when it is formed. Good revenue generation for the sinking fund.
For clift, carpark owned by feo....just like icon
Owners will apply season parking at special rate. Ard 150...cant rmb exact figure
FEO is smart. FEO own quite substantial shares in the development with about 8 storeys of carpark and generate income for themselves. Besides the consent of the owners, FEO will need to agree to make up the required % for the place to be enbloc.
For clift, carpark owned by feo....just like icon
Owners will apply season parking at special rate. Ard 150...cant rmb exact figure
devilplate
17-05-11, 13:19
FEO is smart. FEO own quite substantial shares in the development with about 8 storeys of carpark and generate income for themselves. Besides the consent of the owners, FEO will need to agree to make up the required % for the place to be enbloc.
5shop lots aso owned by them
How to enbloc....i surely sell by den oredi....hehe
The shops are still empty last week. Usually have breakfast with my wife at amoy street hawker centre. Rental should be quite steep.
5shop lots aso owned by them
How to enbloc....i surely sell by den oredi....hehe
devilplate
17-05-11, 13:38
The shops are still empty last week. Usually have breakfast with my wife at amoy street hawker centre. Rental should be quite steep.
All rented out liao....
One guardian, one bakery, 2shop lot become a Restaurant...
the last one...cant rmb....
Residents / tenants at clift can walk to club street for pubbing and dining at night. I did not know it was a happening place when I was there at 6pm. People have already started toggoing away. Very relax ambience.
All rented out liao....
One guardian, one bakery, 2shop lot become a Restaurant...
the last one...cant rmb....
devilplate
17-05-11, 13:46
Residents / tenants at clift can walk to club street for pubbing and dining at night. I did not know it was a happening place when I was there at 6pm. People have already started toggoing away. Very relax ambience.
Yes....i recce the whole vicinity in 09:D Even walk to nite market at chinatown for supper....within 10min:D lau pasat 5min walk too:D
Shortcut via ann xiang park is a bonus....can reach maxwell food ctr within 5mins:D but not for weak knees
Do not use the stairs. Walk along amoy street and turn left. You will find telok ayer mrt stn, just next to club street.
Yes....i recce the whole vicinity in 09:D Even walk to nite market at chinatown for supper....within 10min:D lau pasat 5min walk too:D
Shortcut via ann xiang park is a bonus....can reach maxwell food ctr within 5mins:D but not for weak knees
kingkong1984
17-05-11, 13:53
For clift, carpark owned by feo....just like icon
Owners will apply season parking at special rate. Ard 150...cant rmb exact figure
Car park lots as good as actual units. In some countries, parking lots are also for sale.
devilplate
17-05-11, 13:55
Do not use the stairs. Walk along amoy street and turn left. You will find telok ayer mrt stn, just next to club street.
Too far imo....use stairs can hit club st in2min:D
The unit area in International Plaza comes with carpark area. One can sell it too.
Car park lots as good as actual units. In some countries, parking lots are also for sale.
You said weak knees. So recommend flat ground.
Too far imo....use stairs can hit club st in2min:D
kingkong1984
17-05-11, 13:58
The unit area in International Plaza comes with carpark area. One can sell it too.
Exception than the norm right?
Old development also.
RaymondTan
17-05-11, 16:13
Hello everyone here, i just got a unit in clift but not yet receive my keys. Was contemplating between lumiere and clift but in the end, went for clift. Can I know, how is the rent for clift now?
Why I choose clift is because lumiere has a kind of funny layout. There is no separation wall or door between the living room and bedroom but it is too small for a wall though. Lumiere was asking 970k and clift 1030k. Agent also bring me to see a 1+1 unit and that is a better comparison. 1 bedroom and 1 living area but 1.25 million. So in the end, went for clift. Can't wait to get the keys :)
Welcome to the family of D1. Why did up not got for one shenton?
Hello everyone here, i just got a unit in clift but not yet receive my keys. Was contemplating between lumiere and clift but in the end, went for clift. Can I know, how is the rent for clift now?
Why I choose clift is because lumiere has a kind of funny layout. There is no separation wall or door between the living room and bedroom but it is too small for a wall though. Lumiere was asking 970k and clift 1030k. Agent also bring me to see a 1+1 unit and that is a better comparison. 1 bedroom and 1 living area but 1.25 million. So in the end, went for clift. Can't wait to get the keys :)
devilplate
17-05-11, 16:38
Welcome to the family of D1. Why did up not got for one shenton?
Hopeful oredi explained
devilplate
17-05-11, 16:39
Hello everyone here, i just got a unit in clift but not yet receive my keys. Was contemplating between lumiere and clift but in the end, went for clift. Can I know, how is the rent for clift now?
Why I choose clift is because lumiere has a kind of funny layout. There is no separation wall or door between the living room and bedroom but it is too small for a wall though. Lumiere was asking 970k and clift 1030k. Agent also bring me to see a 1+1 unit and that is a better comparison. 1 bedroom and 1 living area but 1.25 million. So in the end, went for clift. Can't wait to get the keys :)
1.03mil cheap liao...now gg for 1.1mil up oredi:D :cheers6:
Hopeful oredi explained
Cld not find. What is it?
devilplate
17-05-11, 16:47
Cld not find. What is it?
Under citibank rates
shauntanzs
18-05-11, 20:14
For clift, carpark owned by feo....just like icon
Owners will apply season parking at special rate. Ard 150...cant rmb exact figure
$130/month
shauntanzs
18-05-11, 20:15
Hello everyone here, i just got a unit in clift but not yet receive my keys. Was contemplating between lumiere and clift but in the end, went for clift. Can I know, how is the rent for clift now?
Why I choose clift is because lumiere has a kind of funny layout. There is no separation wall or door between the living room and bedroom but it is too small for a wall though. Lumiere was asking 970k and clift 1030k. Agent also bring me to see a 1+1 unit and that is a better comparison. 1 bedroom and 1 living area but 1.25 million. So in the end, went for clift. Can't wait to get the keys :)
Welcome.. Coffee anytime
FEO in ST selling the remaining 72 fully-furnished loft apartments above level 32 from 753 sqft from $2700psf. What is the impact on subsale of lower floors? Wonder what quality furnishing are they offering?
rattydrama
21-05-11, 11:53
the buffer is good. Existing owners will have even more arrogant smiling face for their good judgement to chop in 2009.
quatum is around 500-600k rite?
But really move so much in such short period is a double-edge sword.
devilplate
21-05-11, 12:07
the buffer is good. Existing owners will have even more arrogant smiling face for their good judgement to chop in 2009.
quatum is around 500-600k rite?
But really move so much in such short period is a double-edge sword.
Nothing beats landed for the past 1.5yrs
Are these units marketed by FEO much better buy than resale? Are they meant for foreign markets?
the buffer is good. Existing owners will have even more arrogant smiling face for their good judgement to chop in 2009.
quatum is around 500-600k rite?
But really move so much in such short period is a double-edge sword.
devilplate
21-05-11, 12:16
Are these units marketed by FEO much better buy than resale? Are they meant for foreign markets?
U oredi noe the answer....no?
rattydrama
21-05-11, 12:18
Nothing beats landed for the past 1.5yrs
landed is for wealth preservation n for pple dont bother with rental yield.:p
Want double confirmation.
U oredi noe the answer....no?
devilplate
21-05-11, 12:21
Want double confirmation.
Double confirmed:D
Hope it will not be like sentosa cove. Chinese and Indian playground.
Double confirmed:D
devilplate
21-05-11, 12:27
Hope it will not be like sentosa cove. Chinese and Indian playground.
Y not?:confused:
Locals dun stay there anyway rite;)
I thought people in the forum are alright with nationalities like Europeans, US, Asians like Japanese, etc.
Y not?:confused:
Locals dun stay there anyway rite;)
devilplate
21-05-11, 12:36
I thought people in the forum are alright with nationalities like Europeans, US, Asians like Japanese, etc.
Me neutral;)
Wait till you see what happen in Sentosa cove and you own a unit there.
Me neutral;)
devilplate
21-05-11, 12:45
Wait till you see what happen in Sentosa cove and you own a unit there.
Can sell to them n let them play among themselves
Haha:D
It is alright if they play and leave it tidy. The problem is the mess they created and affect the neighbourhood's pricing.
Can sell to them n let them play among themselves
Haha:D
devilplate
21-05-11, 13:17
It is alright if they play and leave it tidy. The problem is the mess they created and affect the neighbourhood's pricing.
Den u can sell to them n get out of the mess:D
Anyway, clift small format units, they wun stay there....no worries lah:D
Wait till they lease to their own l people who start subletting out.
Den u can sell to them n get out of the mess:D
Anyway, clift small format units, they wun stay there....no worries lah:D
devilplate
21-05-11, 13:25
Wait till they lease to their own l people who start subletting out.
So small how to sublet?:beats-me-man:
Those bigger 1300-2000sqft apts definitely can sublet out their rooms...happen to pearlbank for eg.
Furthermore, they buy high....die die must rent out high too..
Wait till create partition within your living room and rent them out.
So small how to sublet?:beats-me-man:
Those bigger 1300-2000sqft apts definitely can sublet out their rooms...happen to pearlbank for eg.
Furthermore, they buy high....die die must rent out high too..
devilplate
21-05-11, 13:29
Wait till create partition within your living room and rent them out.
Den u shd worry abt those bigger n much cheaper projects
Only desperate owners will do that. It can happen anywhere and especially during downturn time.
Den u shd worry abt those bigger n much cheaper projects
devilplate
21-05-11, 13:35
Only desperate owners will do that. It can happen anywhere and especially during downturn time.
And when the projects get older n rundown....and owners dunwan to maintain n waiting for enbloc
A friend bought an old large condo in Tanglin and collect only rental of $4000. Waiting for enbloc.
And when the projects get older n rundown....and owners dunwan to maintain n waiting for enbloc
devilplate
21-05-11, 13:43
A friend bought an old large condo in Tanglin and collect only rental of $4000. Waiting for enbloc.
Same.....big big 3bedder but lesser rental den nearby 800sqft 2bedder:banghead:
kingkong1984
21-05-11, 14:07
Same.....big big 3bedder but lesser rental den nearby 800sqft 2bedder:banghead:
Proud owners unit?
Any way enblock is jackpot right?
Just like a friend of mine who owns a relatively large unit at Elizabeth Tower. Can retire with the enbloc going thru'.
Proud owners unit?
Any way enblock is jackpot right?
shauntanzs
22-05-11, 22:28
Clift hits $2200psf... :)
Clift hits $2200psf... :)
gd stack unit going for 2250 to 2300 psf.
shauntanzs
05-06-11, 21:34
Spoken to some tenants, many prefer clift to One shenton. I wonder why? Could it be more amenities?:beats-me-man:
devilplate
05-06-11, 21:42
Spoken to some tenants, many prefer clift to One shenton. I wonder why? Could it be more amenities?:beats-me-man:
Layout n view
Spoken to some tenants, many prefer clift to One shenton. I wonder why? Could it be more amenities?:beats-me-man:
OS rental higher. Clift day n night view nice. no construction.
gd stack unit going for 2250 to 2300 psf.
which stack do u consider is the good stack?
for me personally,i prefer the odd stack! :scared-5:
the view is nicer compared to the other side as there are more greenery with no blockage as for now..
not too sure how bad is the west sun for the odd stack though? :cheers6: :cheers6:
shauntanzs
06-06-11, 17:13
Even stack is commanding a better premium now. Odd stack may be block in future.
heard 775sqft rental went for 5.5k?
proud owner
06-06-11, 22:25
heard 775sqft rental went for 5.5k?
serious ah ?
do you have more info ?
last time i had a unit somewhere else ...renting at 7k ... but tenant wanted only 1 yr ... so i said to him :
2yr 7k per mth
1 yr 10k per mth
he paid me 10k ...:cheers6:
could this be simialr ?
if yes ..then not a good guide
devilplate
07-06-11, 01:00
heard 775sqft rental went for 5.5k?
Possible .....5k is the average...but definitely unbelievable to lease out for 6.7k quoted by raymond
kingkong1984
07-06-11, 02:58
Possible .....5k is the average...but definitely unbelievable to lease out for 6.7k quoted by raymond
Can lah, if got kick backs. Money makes the world go round.
which stack do u consider is the good stack?
for me personally,i prefer the odd stack! :scared-5:
the view is nicer compared to the other side as there are more greenery with no blockage as for now..
not too sure how bad is the west sun for the odd stack though? :cheers6: :cheers6:
Best stack for 2 rm is stack 2 esp high floor. For one rm are stack 6 then 4. even stack confirm unblock n excellence day n night view. odd stack also not bad but will see one construction coming fr Guocoland n view will b affected. Overall location is v gd. Great potential for capital yield.
Possible .....5k is the average...but definitely unbelievable to lease out for 6.7k quoted by raymond
Rental last mth for 2 rm was $5k to $5.5k. Now dropping to $4.7k to $5k as good stack units already rented out + one shenton competition.
devilplate
08-06-11, 10:35
Best stack for 2 rm is stack 2 esp high floor. For one rm are stack 6 then 4. even stack confirm unblock n excellence day n night view. odd stack also not bad but will see one construction coming fr Guocoland n view will b affected. Overall location is v gd. Great potential for capital yield.
where is the new construction by guocoland?
thomastansb
08-06-11, 11:33
You know how far the construction is? It is at international plaza there leh. How would it affect?
Best stack for 2 rm is stack 2 esp high floor. For one rm are stack 6 then 4. even stack confirm unblock n excellence day n night view. odd stack also not bad but will see one construction coming fr Guocoland n view will b affected. Overall location is v gd. Great potential for capital yield.
devilplate
08-06-11, 11:40
You know how far the construction is? It is at international plaza there leh. How would it affect?
oh he meant tat one....affect Icon la....whr got affect clift?
i tot the old school in front got sold.....chey....hahahaha
i find odd stacks (facing icon side) to have better view than even stacks (shop house facing).
dats for now. once the guocoland project comes up, dont know already. although the guocoland site is not that close, the project will supposedly be the tallest in the vicinity... so kind of hard to say how the view will be like in future. it could turn out nice
personally i find one shenton more classy than clift... too bad one shenton one side blocked by asia Sqaure towers. :o
devilplate
08-06-11, 16:01
i find odd stacks (facing icon side) to have better view than even stacks (shop house facing).
dats for now. once the guocoland project comes up, dont know already. although the guocoland site is not that close, the project will supposedly be the tallest in the vicinity... so kind of hard to say how the view will be like in future. it could turn out nice
personally i find one shenton more classy than clift... too bad one shenton one side blocked by asia Sqaure towers. :o
One shenton facade, clubhse, facilities etc all better den clift....but not their individual units....lack of views n many of them super cmi layout....super inefficient
The reason y even stack is better bcoz their views is guaranteed for the next 9xyrs...whereas odd stack cfm kena block in future if u chk the masterplan....just a matter of time nia
Jus to add, those seaview facing units in mbr in future cfm kena blocked too
One shenton facade, clubhse, facilities etc all better den clift....but not their individual units....lack of views n many of them super cmi layout....super inefficient
The reason y even stack is better bcoz their views is guaranteed for the next 9xyrs...whereas odd stack cfm kena block in future if u chk the masterplan....just a matter of time nia
Jus to add, those seaview facing units in mbr in future cfm kena blocked too
sometime, rent doesnt pay better with super good view
thomastansb
08-06-11, 17:59
Rental is almost the same with or without view. Location and layout is more important. I believe clift, icon, one shenton, sail and MBR rental should be pretty on par. At least from URA data, I can see them pretty similar.
sometime, rent doesnt pay better with super good view
Jonathan0503
08-06-11, 18:18
Rental is almost the same with or without view. Location and layout is more important. I believe clift, icon, one shenton, sail and MBR rental should be pretty on par. At least from URA data, I can see them pretty similar.
So if buy for rental purpose, better to get low floor units?
So if buy for rental purpose, better to get low floor units?
not exactly true..high floor units easier to rent out especially if u have stiff competition n if u need to sell it in the future,will command a much better price definitely.:cheers6: :cheers6:
higher floor or good facing will be 1st to be rented out
Jonathan0503
09-06-11, 09:14
not exactly true..high floor units easier to rent out especially if u have stiff competition n if u need to sell it in the future,will command a much better price definitely.:cheers6: :cheers6:
But high floors would usually cost more when you buy.
Hence, naturally, low floors being cheaper, you will be able to charge a lower rent.
So which is more attractive to the tenant? And which gives better yield to the landlord?
devilplate
09-06-11, 10:32
But high floors would usually cost more when you buy.
Hence, naturally, low floors being cheaper, you will be able to charge a lower rent.
So which is more attractive to the tenant? And which gives better yield to the landlord?
If high flr got nice views....den go for it...capital gain is more impt den yield
If all no views...u jus buying the location...den choose low to mid flr.....low flr smtimes quite tough to sell
thomastansb
09-06-11, 15:28
Yup. Must see what is the selling factor. You can say high floor as your selling point. Or good views as selling point. Or if you buy low floor, pool view is another selling point. Unblock view also a selling point.
But if your unit has no view, low floor, no pool view, then your only selling point is low price I guess. I am also surprised how some agents can say tennis court view is good. To me, it is so noisy and bright. Pool view still okay but tennis view????? Location I exclude because all units same location anyway.
If high flr got nice views....den go for it...capital gain is more impt den yield
If all no views...u jus buying the location...den choose low to mid flr.....low flr smtimes quite tough to sell
I am also surprised how some agents can say tennis court view is good. To me, it is so noisy and bright. Pool view still okay but tennis view?????
if the condo management ban male from entering the court, and only allow young ladies to book the court, then yes, very good view :D
(just joking, dun flame me)
Jonathan0503
09-06-11, 16:12
Yup. Must see what is the selling factor. You can say high floor as your selling point. Or good views as selling point. Or if you buy low floor, pool view is another selling point. Unblock view also a selling point.
But if your unit has no view, low floor, no pool view, then your only selling point is low price I guess. I am also surprised how some agents can say tennis court view is good. To me, it is so noisy and bright. Pool view still okay but tennis view????? Location I exclude because all units same location anyway.
Think also depends.
If the tenant or buyer is a hardcore tennis fan, he might enjoy tennis court view...
Think also depends.
If the tenant or buyer is a hardcore tennis fan, he might enjoy tennis court view...
thats interesting! have yet to see in st classifieds units being advertised for sale or rental using tennis court view to attract potential buyers or tenants..pool view there are plenty:cheers6: :cheers6:
somebody bought loft unit at 2730psf :scared-5:.
don't know to be happy or sad.
somebody bought loft unit at 2730psf :scared-5:.
don't know to be happy or sad.
from developer sale, comes fully renovated and furnished. FEO agent claims can get $7k/mth rental lol ~
FEO is really innovative. Got sick of FEO advertisement on SQ inflight movie. Will view it again on A380 to zurich next week.
from developer sale, comes fully renovated and furnished. FEO agent claims can get $7k/mth rental lol ~
kingkong1984
25-06-11, 17:30
FEO is really innovative. Got sick of FEO advertisement on SQ inflight movie. Will view it again on A380 to zurich next week.
They are sponsors. Do u know how much would that cost?
Just got feedback that all stack 02 rented out. limited supply left for stack 01.
Jonathan0503
04-07-11, 08:52
Just got feedback that all stack 02 rented out. limited supply left for stack 01.
What is the average rental like for the 1 bedder?
thomastansb
04-07-11, 10:04
Anything from 3.7k to 4.5k
What is the average rental like for the 1 bedder?
Jonathan0503
04-07-11, 10:08
Anything from 3.7k to 4.5k
Thanks. Quite good returns.
devilplate
04-07-11, 10:16
Thanks. Quite good returns.
soso lor...4% yield....but consider gd yield for CCR ppty la:D
thomastansb
05-07-11, 14:22
Hmm.. That is high
THE CLIFT MCCALLUM STREET Apartment 1 2,115,769 775 Strata 2,730 Jun-11
bargain hunter
05-07-11, 14:51
is this the very high floor loft that far east was marketing here and in indonesia, fully furnished with a promised 5% yield? :D
Hmm.. That is high
THE CLIFT MCCALLUM STREET Apartment 1 2,115,769 775 Strata 2,730 Jun-11
is this the very high floor loft that far east was marketing here and in indonesia, fully furnished with a promised 5% yield? :D
ya, shd b those loft units above 30 floor. If u look @ TP development plan, the price of condo shd b moving up in the long run.
How is rental at Clift? FEO sold all their units?
shauntanzs
03-09-11, 22:47
I heard there is a 1 bedder rented at $4800!!
Rental is hot, I open my unit for viewing n in 2 days, I received 5 very good offers. Many chose clift over 1S due to the quiet env.
It is really strange when one look at the design of building: IS is definitely more grand than Clift and yet clift is more popular.
shauntanzs
03-09-11, 22:59
U need to go up 1S and u will know the ans. A tenant came over from 1S n he offer my unit immediately. For 1S, u either face AS or face west sun or face darkness. That's what they told me. N from concierge, you need to change 2 lift before reaching ur unit. N the most destructive is the noise. Construction for at least the next 2-3 years. N you have the noisy shenton road right in front. Clift is so much more quiet with better layout. U can fetch $8+psf easily. Whereas I heard 1s only $6+psf.
Nevertheless, I still like 1s architurally.
devilplate
04-09-11, 17:51
I heard there is a 1 bedder rented at $4800!!
Rental is hot, I open my unit for viewing n in 2 days, I received 5 very good offers. Many chose clift over 1S due to the quiet env.
Wats their offer? All above 4k?
Rental at clift strengthen a little now to about 3.8k to 4.2k now....at one stage drop to 3.6k
shauntanzs
05-09-11, 16:49
Wats their offer? All above 4k?
Rental at clift strengthen a little now to about 3.8k to 4.2k now....at one stage drop to 3.6k
3.7k, 3.8k, 4k, 4.1k 4.2k.
devilplate
06-09-11, 00:11
3.7k, 3.8k, 4k, 4.1k 4.2k.
Great. 4.2k is a gd px:cheers6:
2 rm rental move to 5.5k. Once 4.7k to 5k.
Off topic
Any Clift owners here willing to rent out their parking space?
I need 2 lots.
Email me to discuss please
[email protected]
Require from Nov 2011.
devilplate
16-09-11, 22:42
Off topic
Any Clift owners here willing to rent out their parking space?
I need 2 lots.
Email me to discuss please
[email protected]
Require from Nov 2011.
Clift owners r not entitled a car lot.....
U contact feo directly for season parking
Clift owners r not entitled a car lot.....
U contact feo directly for season parking
Oh didn't know that, thanks for the headsup
Jonathan0503
17-09-11, 12:14
Clift owners r not entitled a car lot.....
U contact feo directly for season parking
Oh, so most condos in biz districts no carparks?
At lease provide mechandised carpark mah
Oh didn't know that, thanks for the headsup
I not sure whether FEO provides season parking for public. Owners are able to have season parking at the Clift at a cheaper rate compared to tenants, but I don't think it can be assigned
FEO advertised something, all units sold now selling 2-3 bedrooms...
shauntanzs
16-10-11, 14:54
FEO advertised something, all units sold now selling 2-3 bedrooms...
Those are loft units from 32nd to 42nd floor. 2700psf up.
Heard from agent benchmark rental fr Clift now $4300..
Demand outstrips supply in this project due to it's location.
The fact that it's tucked inside telok Ayer street and yet still quite near the MRT, shophouses, Amoy, and yet proximity to lots of office building means that many expatriates prefer this project compared to OS, Lumiere, and even the sail (bad management, long waiting time for lifts, to many units in 1 project). Clft location also further away from the crowded construction that is about to start in gopeng street, bay areas.
Congrats to all Clift owners.. Damn good project in D1 I must say.
Just had yummy Lor Mee opposite for lunch! :sleep: Featured on property guru news as top picks :) Congrats Devilplate!
shauntanzs
23-03-12, 20:28
Haha, was offered $2300psf just yesterday but rejected.
The few units available for rents are asking $4500pm for 1bedder.
Most tenant I spoke to like the quietness compared with other D1 projects. Congrats fellow landlord.
Devil, when drink kopi at amoy?
devilplate
24-03-12, 00:24
Haha, was offered $2300psf just yesterday but rejected.
The few units available for rents are asking $4500pm for 1bedder.
Most tenant I spoke to like the quietness compared with other D1 projects. Congrats fellow landlord.
Devil, when drink kopi at amoy?
U putting ur unit for sale? Hmm
I seldom go downtown wor.....lol :)
easy to fetch 4.5k meh? Den how come ura psf so low.....i got higher den ura...happy....den realised so many bros here got above 4.3k.....i feel shortchanged leh :(
devilplate
24-03-12, 00:27
Just had yummy Lor Mee opposite for lunch! :sleep: Featured on property guru news as top picks :) Congrats Devilplate!
tqtq :D;).
shauntanzs
24-03-12, 00:59
U putting ur unit for sale? Hmm
I seldom go downtown wor.....lol :)
easy to fetch 4.5k meh? Den how come ura psf so low.....i got higher den ura...happy....den realised so many bros here got above 4.3k.....i feel shortchanged leh :(
No, they just call me.
I got $8+ so I got no complaints.
How is the cafe at the entrance to Clift? Is it good?
Haha, was offered $2300psf just yesterday but rejected.
The few units available for rents are asking $4500pm for 1bedder.
Most tenant I spoke to like the quietness compared with other D1 projects. Congrats fellow landlord.
Devil, when drink kopi at amoy?
shauntanzs
24-03-12, 13:00
Cafe is so so... Moo bar is good.
Among the projects the location is quite central. I thought that the sail would have been bettepsf rental?
Looking forward to the Telok Ayer MRT stn opening next year. More rental potential for people working in the Marina Bay area besides the raffles place area.:D
devilplate
24-03-12, 16:04
Among the projects the location is quite central. I thought that the sail would have been bettepsf rental?
Sail bigger abit den clift in unit sizes tats y
shauntanzs
24-03-12, 17:35
Sail got more competition than Clift.
devilplate
24-03-12, 17:45
Sail got more competition than Clift.
Nxt time altez and skysuites TOP liao....clift can compete wif them anot ar? I noe clift got better views :D
Nxt time altez and skysuites TOP liao....clift can compete wif them anot ar? I noe clift got better views :D
Glad my condo does not need to compete all these new ones. Rental yield is still good reasonable $psf & just a couple minutes walk to new mrt stn next year.
devilplate
24-03-12, 17:58
Glad my condo does not need to compete all these new ones. Rental yield is still good reasonable $psf & just a couple minutes walk to new mrt stn next year.
...........??????????
Hows ur 1700psf southbank offer?
U also like me bery much into tcss smtimes....hehehe
...........??????????
Hows ur 1700psf southbank offer?
U also like me bery much into tcss smtimes....hehehe Southbank & my Condo in D1 are not for sale. They are bought to be kept for passive income when i retire & move to my place in malaysia.
devilplate
24-03-12, 18:15
Southbank & my Condo in D1 are not for sale. They are bought to be kept for passive income when i retire & move to my place in malaysia.
My clift also got offer 2500psf recently....and also not for sale :p
My clift also got offer 2500psf recently....and also not for sale :p
:D nice try..
shauntanzs
24-03-12, 22:12
My clift also got offer 2500psf recently....and also not for sale :p
Oh, another agent today at 2501psf. Win u $1 haha
Oh, another agent today at 2501psf. Win u $1 haha
wow..... hows lumière or the old icon doing?
devilplate
24-03-12, 22:50
wow..... hows lumière or the old icon doing?
U din catch the joke.....
But i dun blame u....wakakaka
wow..... hows lumière or the old icon doing?
Lumiere n icon even higher..now transacting 2700-2800psf.
But the owners most of them not selling.. hahahaha:D
Yup. There is a big gap between buyers and sellers expectation.
Lumiere n icon even higher..now transacting 2700-2800psf.
But the owners most of them not selling.. hahahaha:D
Jonathan0503
25-03-12, 11:10
My clift also got offer 2500psf recently....and also not for sale :p
Which floor is your Clift?
wow..... hows lumière or the old icon doing?
my agent tells me lumiere rental not doing too well...
my agent tells me lumiere rental not doing too well...What is the rental yield? less than 3%?
my agent tells me lumiere rental not doing too well...
Comparing to clift I think Lumiere location is not so ideal. Quite dark the pool area. Also now with the marina house construction and the other shenton project around there. The noise level would be a issue. But once those are done I think Lumiere would be ok.
But still Clift location is better but Clift units are smaller. But well location location location. And no building blocking are it so its quite bright.
Lumiere n icon even higher..now transacting 2700-2800psf.
But the owners most of them not selling.. hahahaha:D
2700??? lumiere? I dont see much transaction. latest being 2086psf. 2700-2800 are asking for the 30+ floors. Are those still developers holding?
What is the rental yield? less than 3%?
lumber current should be 2-3%. Original buyers should be are 4-5% for clift original buyers yield are very good. given the launch price is from 1100psf.
devilplate
25-03-12, 19:49
Which floor is your Clift?
lol......i dun blame u too
wakakakkaka
devilplate
25-03-12, 19:52
lumber current should be 2-3%. Original buyers should be are 4-5% for clift original buyers yield are very good. given the launch price is from 1100psf.
er simple gross rental yield for original clift buyer ard 8% la....4kX12/600k=8%
er simple gross rental yield for original clift buyer ard 8% la....4kX12/600k=8%
Got $600K flat in 2006 meh?
devilplate
25-03-12, 20:37
Got $600K flat in 2006 meh?
In fact lower....i round it up...
In fact lower....i round it up...
Wah I wanna bring my $$ back
thomastansb
26-03-12, 00:47
Lumiere studio is a joke. Cannot compare with Clift/Icon/Sail.
Comparing to clift I think Lumiere location is not so ideal. Quite dark the pool area. Also now with the marina house construction and the other shenton project around there. The noise level would be a issue. But once those are done I think Lumiere would be ok.
But still Clift location is better but Clift units are smaller. But well location location location. And no building blocking are it so its quite bright.
Lumiere studio is a joke. Cannot compare with Clift/Icon/Sail.
The 678Sqf is ok. The others can be very small. All use bomb shelter as wardrobe. Or the 2 bedder is ok but price too high.
Clift 8 units sold last mth for resale mkt.
Price for low floor ard 2100, above 15floor ard 2200, above that ard 2300 for normal units.
1 loft unit sold direct by developer ard 2600psf.
This was right after PS100 units sold out in mkt..
devilplate
27-03-12, 16:28
Clift 8 units sold last mth for resale mkt.
Price for low floor ard 2100, above 15floor ard 2200, above that ard 2300 for normal units.
1 loft unit sold direct by developer ard 2600psf.
This was right after PS100 units sold out in mkt..
u personally sold the units? how u get to know....
do u noe locals or foreigners buyers?
u personally sold the units? how u get to know....
do u noe locals or foreigners buyers?
u sold one of ur many to him issit?:cool:
devilplate
27-03-12, 17:04
u sold one of ur many to him issit?:cool:
haven caveat leh....how come he/she noe?
and u tink too much.....LOL
haven caveat leh....how come he/she noe?
and u tink too much.....LOL
maybe he's the agent/banker/lawyer involved in the sale lor?
Been targeting this condo for a while.. The agent familiar with the project told me. The unit I was looking at was part of a 4 party bidding war.
Don't know who got it in the end; it was sold but not to me :(
Most of the interested parties were foreigners
This place launch price is 1100psf? I remember seeing this place some time back. But I think its low to low mod floor if not wrong.
devilplate
29-03-12, 01:14
This place launch price is 1100psf? I remember seeing this place some time back. But I think its low to low mod floor if not wrong.
Below 15th flr
thomastansb
29-03-12, 11:44
I mean the 506 studio at Lumiere. It is a joke.
For 678 sq ft, it is selling around 1.3 to 1.4M. To me, that is like a studio at Icon/Sail/Clift but Lumiere market it as 1+1. Where is the +1 may I ask?
What a joke...
The 678Sqf is ok. The others can be very small. All use bomb shelter as wardrobe. Or the 2 bedder is ok but price too high.
ya i was also at lumiere once, very disappointed with the development.
main entrance looks like some old and bare office building lobby. No luxurius ambience at all.
facilities very small, biggest joke was the function room right above the tennis court. Barely enough size to fit 1 mahjong table..
small plus point for this development is the relatively good location. It is at least still 100m away from Tanjong Pagar MRT despite all it's shortcomings..
but still terrible project.
I mean the 506 studio at Lumiere. It is a joke.
For 678 sq ft, it is selling around 1.3 to 1.4M. To me, that is like a studio at Icon/Sail/Clift but Lumiere market it as 1+1. Where is the +1 may I ask?
What a joke...
then -1 lor.. some agent consider the bomb shelter in other projects as a +1 or the maid room also consider +1... up to u. don't like -1 -2 also can.
devilplate
29-03-12, 15:40
ya i was also at lumiere once, very disappointed with the development.
main entrance looks like some old and bare office building lobby. No luxurius ambience at all.
facilities very small, biggest joke was the function room right above the tennis court. Barely enough size to fit 1 mahjong table..
small plus point for this development is the relatively good location. It is at least still 100m away from Tanjong Pagar MRT despite all it's shortcomings..
but still terrible project.
lumiere not so bad la.....
just tat when u compare it wif clift, it become terrible...:p
devilplate
29-03-12, 15:41
then -1 lor.. some agent consider the bomb shelter in other projects as a +1 or the maid room also consider +1... up to u. don't like -1 -2 also can.
got tenant prefer lumiere lor.....one of my potential tenant went for 6xxsqft lumiere instead for the same rental
thomastansb
29-03-12, 15:56
No la. I mean compare apple to apple.
Lumiere studio vs Clift/Sail/Icon studio.
Price about the same but layout is horribly disgusting.
People always use Lumiere 1+1 vs other condo's studio. That is not fair. Lumiere 1+1 cost 1.3 to 1.4M. There is no comparison.
Might as well use 2 bedroom vs studio.
lumiere not so bad la.....
just tat when u compare it wif clift, it become terrible...:p
devilplate
29-03-12, 16:01
No la. I mean compare apple to apple.
Lumiere studio vs Clift/Sail/Icon studio.
Price about the same but layout is horribly disgusting.
People always use Lumiere 1+1 vs other condo's studio. That is not fair. Lumiere 1+1 cost 1.3 to 1.4M. There is no comparison.
Might as well use 2 bedroom vs studio.
i am not toking abt layout,....
i quoted the other bro who tok abt common area/facilities mah
devilplate
29-03-12, 16:02
long long time ago even b4 lumiere TOP, i oredi said lumiere's layout cmi over at skyscraper forum....LOL
on thing about clift. no wardrobe at all. must DIY.
on thing about clift. no wardrobe at all. must DIY.
for clift 1Bedder,the wardrobe is built in the bomb shelter mah.. n its quite a spacious wardrobe.
for clift 1Bedder,the wardrobe is built in the bomb shelter mah.. n its quite a spacious wardrobe.
Lumiere wardrobe is also in bomb shelter. The 670 unit is external. I saw the 670 unit before. Quite reasonably spaced. Verses the rest in the project.
I like Clift condo amongst D1 projects. Ahha anyone want to let go?
Lumiere wardrobe is also in bomb shelter. The 670 unit is external. I saw the 670 unit before. Quite reasonably spaced. Verses the rest in the project.
actually anyonw knows if pple closed the bomb shelter door for wardrobes that r built inside it? :o
always feel lack ventilations inside bomb shelters..
shauntanzs
31-03-12, 22:31
actually anyonw knows if pple closed the bomb shelter door for wardrobes that r built inside it? :o
always feel lack ventilations inside bomb shelters..
No. There is a glass door seperating living room to bedroom/bomb shelter so it's perfectly fine to leave the door open. Looks like walk in wardrobe except with a step.
devilplate
31-03-12, 23:09
No. There is a glass door seperating living room to bedroom/bomb shelter so it's perfectly fine to leave the door open. Looks like walk in wardrobe except with a step.
my tenant love it :D
What is the rental doing for 1 bedded here ah? What's the highest level u know so far?
devilplate
01-04-12, 00:04
What is the rental doing for 1 bedded here ah? What's the highest level u know so far?
Ask agts for those units selling wif tenancy la :p
shauntanzs
01-04-12, 13:58
Highest I heard is $5k. Landlord throw in bb, utility bills and once a week maid.
Wow awesome.. Really love to be owner at Clift haha
Balance 1BR all asking min.4.5k
I think Clift is unique in its own and has its own market diff from Sail n MBR.
primeesense
13-04-12, 10:42
Telok Ayer Performing Arts School tenants has been told to move out by March 2013 - I guess the government will be selling that piece of land soon after. Rent will be affected for odd stack units!
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1194792/1/.html
SINGAPORE: The Telok Ayer Performing Arts Centre (TAPAC) will be shutting its doors in March 2013, as the Urban Redevelopment Authority will develop the land for other purposes.
The centre currently sits on prime land in the Central Business District, and tenants said they have been told to move to other venues, such as the National Library or community centres.
However, they are hoping for a dedicated space for their groups.
Meanwhile, the National Arts Council (NAC) said it has identified a site for its new arts centre which will be ready by 2013. It will call for applications from all interested groups, including tenants from the Telok Ayer Performing Arts Centre.
Savinder Kaur, managing director of The Writers' Centre, said: "All of us in TAPAC have come together to create a series of events, performances. We are calling it 'Goodbye TAPAC', to celebrate the spirit here.
"And we are hoping that we'll create enough awareness, and hope that the NAC will relocate all of us to new premises. And that premises should be something similar to this."
-CNA/ac
build a park or garden... we need more green spaces in this part of the downtown. :D
There is already a park across the road behind capitaland tower. Clift will not like it if it is another highrise building due to feng shui issue.
primeesense
13-04-12, 14:27
There is already a park across the road behind capitaland tower. Clift will not like it if it is another highrise building due to feng shui issue.
actually I think fengshui is better because there is currently "lu4 sha4" from traffic going towards raffles place on the road near International Plaza. another tall building will block it
Heng arh, I even stack no block. haha.
Best is build new condo n FEO got it.
Min 2500psf hahaha...
Rentals of Non-Landed Residential Buildings
with at Least 10 Rental Contracts Signed in 1Q12
Project Name
Postal District
$ psm pm
25th Percentile
Median
75th Percentile
CASTLE GREEN
26
28.60
30.33
33.80
CENTRAL GREEN CONDOMINIUM
3
36.05
40.83
45.83
CENTRIS, THE
22
35.22
40.32
44.64
CHANGI COURT
16
29.46
31.67
33.33
CHANGI GREEN
16
29.03
30.97
34.57
CHILTERN PARK
19
28.38
32.00
33.06
CHUAN PARK
19
25.35
26.22
27.97
CITY SQUARE RESIDENCES
8
44.86
52.56
62.82
CITYLIGHTS
8
53.97
60.32
66.04
CLAYMORE, THE
9
42.64
49.75
53.30
CLEARWATER, THE
16
28.07
29.36
32.41
CLEMENTI PARK
21
27.29
28.82
31.85
CLIFT, THE
1
80.61
85.41
93.20
CLIVEDEN AT GRANGE
10
45.45
49.24
52.27
CLOVER BY THE PARK
20
32.93
33.95
37.54
COAST AT SENTOSA COVE, THE
4
38.58
40.08
45.08
COMPASS HEIGHTS
19
31.91
33.49
36.26
COSMOPOLITAN, THE
9
52.85
57.20
59.43
COSTA DEL SOL
16
38.14
41.85
45.06
COSTA RHU
15
32.94
35.34
38.04
COTE D'AZUR
15
40.59
43.43
50.00
CUSCADEN RESIDENCES
10
52.07
55.37
57.68
DAIRY FARM, THE
23
22.71
24.73
26.38
DAKOTA RESIDENCES
14
41.67
42.57
45.26
DOMAIN 21
3
48.82
51.43
58.48
DOVER PARKVIEW
5
35.56
38.89
42.22
DRAYCOTT, THE
10
39.08
42.07
43.71
DUCHESS CREST
10
40.08
44.97
48.22
EAST MEADOWS
16
32.52
33.94
37.04
EASTERN LAGOON
15
34.16
38.56
40.89
EASTPOINT GREEN
18
32.38
33.96
35.56
EDELWEISS PARK CONDOMINIUM
17
29.12
30.77
33.33
EMERALD GARDEN
1
44.44
45.45
48.28
EMERALD PARK
3
38.14
41.72
42.49
ESTA, THE
15
38.46
40.67
41.28
ESTELLA GARDENS
17
25.83
31.03
36.07
EURO-ASIA PARK
13
24.14
26.41
30.12
You must also know $psf at Clift.
Rentals of Non-Landed Residential Buildings
with at Least 10 Rental Contracts Signed in 1Q12
Project Name
Postal District
$ psm pm
25th Percentile
Median
75th Percentile
CASTLE GREEN
26
28.60
30.33
33.80
CENTRAL GREEN CONDOMINIUM
3
36.05
40.83
45.83
CENTRIS, THE
22
35.22
40.32
44.64
CHANGI COURT
16
29.46
31.67
33.33
CHANGI GREEN
16
29.03
30.97
34.57
CHILTERN PARK
19
28.38
32.00
33.06
CHUAN PARK
19
25.35
26.22
27.97
CITY SQUARE RESIDENCES
8
44.86
52.56
62.82
CITYLIGHTS
8
53.97
60.32
66.04
CLAYMORE, THE
9
42.64
49.75
53.30
CLEARWATER, THE
16
28.07
29.36
32.41
CLEMENTI PARK
21
27.29
28.82
31.85
CLIFT, THE
1
80.61
85.41
93.20
CLIVEDEN AT GRANGE
10
45.45
49.24
52.27
CLOVER BY THE PARK
20
32.93
33.95
37.54
COAST AT SENTOSA COVE, THE
4
38.58
40.08
45.08
COMPASS HEIGHTS
19
31.91
33.49
36.26
COSMOPOLITAN, THE
9
52.85
57.20
59.43
COSTA DEL SOL
16
38.14
41.85
45.06
COSTA RHU
15
32.94
35.34
38.04
COTE D'AZUR
15
40.59
43.43
50.00
CUSCADEN RESIDENCES
10
52.07
55.37
57.68
DAIRY FARM, THE
23
22.71
24.73
26.38
DAKOTA RESIDENCES
14
41.67
42.57
45.26
DOMAIN 21
3
48.82
51.43
58.48
DOVER PARKVIEW
5
35.56
38.89
42.22
DRAYCOTT, THE
10
39.08
42.07
43.71
DUCHESS CREST
10
40.08
44.97
48.22
EAST MEADOWS
16
32.52
33.94
37.04
EASTERN LAGOON
15
34.16
38.56
40.89
EASTPOINT GREEN
18
32.38
33.96
35.56
EDELWEISS PARK CONDOMINIUM
17
29.12
30.77
33.33
EMERALD GARDEN
1
44.44
45.45
48.28
EMERALD PARK
3
38.14
41.72
42.49
ESTA, THE
15
38.46
40.67
41.28
ESTELLA GARDENS
17
25.83
31.03
36.07
EURO-ASIA PARK
13
24.14
26.41
30.12
You must also know $psf at Clift.
Guess is the most expensive MM in D1? The Clit.... Hmmm
Guess is the most expensive MM in D1? The Clit.... Hmmm
so when are u meeting me @ amoy for coffee?
so when are u meeting me @ amoy for coffee?
Why amoy? Clits belong to amoy meh? .... Oh ya
Why amoy? Clits belong to amoy meh? .... Oh ya
beside it wat. wakakakak
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