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princess_morbucks
12-04-14, 17:53
https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/think-profit-home-think-again-133902393.html


By Property Soul (Guest Contributor)

Since 10 March 2014, the Housing Development Board only accepts valuation requests from resale flat buyers or their property agents after the granting of the Option to Purchase by the sellers. This Revised HDB Resale Procedure is believed to encourage buyers and sellers to focus their price discussions on the recent sales transactions, rather than the Cash Over Valuation (COV) that sellers expect buyers to pay on top of the flat’s value.

The end of the Singapore dream to profit from HDB?

Back in 1996, 2007 and from 2010 to 2013, the media liked to pick up stories of HDB sales transactions that came with very high COVs, sometimes up to $100,000 to $150,000. There were also reports that mentioned extreme cases with the transaction prices of HDB flats crossing the one million dollar mark.

These might be exceptional incidents but were often considered by reporters as ‘newsworthy’ stories to cover in the paper. Nonetheless, the stories raised the hope of HDB owners to secure a high COV when it was their turn to sell their flat. The HDB flat became part of the Singaporean dream whereby you could buy a first-hand flat from the government at a subsidized rate, resell it at a high price after staying there for years, and get a windfall from the high COV that the buyer paid.

To an ordinary family, a few hundred thousand dollars of profit and tens of thousands more from the COV is a considerable amount that can take years to save. Above all, to realize the dream of upgrading the family home to a condominium, the amount would come in handy for the downpayment.

Since when have HDB flats become a goldmine?

People who think that they can make some cash out of their HDB flat have probably forgotten one important thing: HDB is a government home ownership scheme to meet the housing needs of Singaporeans. It was never meant to be sold as an asset for investment or for speculation. There is definitely no guarantee that owners can ‘make a profit’ when they sell it one day.

Over the last few decades, the housing market benefited from the rapid growth of Singapore’s economy. Prices of private properties increased by leaps and bounds. The cost of HDB flats have followed suit.

However, Singapore has long passed the stage of growing from a developing to a developed country. It is therefore unrealistic for anyone to expect the value of properties to jump tenfold like those flats bought by Singaporeans decades ago.

Looking at the selling prices of first-hand or resale HDB flats in recent years, it is doubtful anyone can make a windfall selling it after the minimum occupation period of five years.

In fact, the median COV for HDB flats is reaching zero in February this year – the lowest in the last eight years. Twelve HDB towns report zero or even negative median COVs, especially in non-mature estates like Sengkang.

Are there enough buyers for all the resale HDB flats?

Above all, there is a large supply of new flats from the government over the next few years. Just within these two years in 2014 and 2015, there are already a total of 55,000 new flats built by the Housing Development Board getting ready for occupation. And don’t forget that the government can jack up the supply by adding new plans, building new flats, and rebuilding old blocks any place any time.

In last year’s National Day speech, our Prime Minister promised to keep the HDB flats ‘affordable’ for future flat buyers. Later that month, the government announced that there is now a 3-year waiting period for newly-converted Singapore PRs to buy HDB resale flats.

I just have one question on my mind: Do we have enough potential buyers for all the resale HDB flats in the market?

What about private properties?

Even if you are staying in a private property, it is also not that easy to profit from selling your home.

In a booming market, assuming that you manage to sell your home at a good price, you may still end up spending all the profit on your next home that is most likely bought at a high price in a seller’s market. Worse still, while waiting to buy your next home, prices are climbing so fast that the profit from your old home may prove to be insufficient to buy the next one.

If you don’t want to ‘sell high, buy high’, unless you are willing to downgrade, it is naïve to believe that you can profit from the value appreciation of your home.

Selling your home is different from selling an investment

Once you stay in a property, whether its value goes up or down has little to do with you now. Remember your total net worth is calculated by your assets minus your debts, but excluding your own residence. It is because you need a roof over your head under all circumstances.

If it is your home, it is inevitable that you will be emotional about it, especially if you have been staying there for many years, because it is your residence and you need to find a new shelter after the sale; because you are used to your home and whatever profit won’t make you part with it; because few people can easily move out of their home without being sentimental.

Selling a home is never as straightforward as selling an investment. So always make it a point to separate your home from your investments.

oops
12-04-14, 19:02
Sale of balance flat in May will push price down further.

DC33_2008
12-04-14, 22:11
In addition with those requires to sell their flats when their PCs going to TOP.
Sale of balance flat in May will push price down further.

Arcachon
13-04-14, 01:15
So Sad, anyone who brought a 5 room HDB before 1997 this is what they get minimum.

5 room HDB in mature estate cost SGD 250,000.

SGD 680,000 - 250,000 = SGD 430,000 so little, not enough to buy Mickey apartment.

For those who brought Cassia Crescent add another SGD 100,000.

Almost forget, those who brought private before 2006.

2 Bedroom at southbank cost SGD 535,000.

Now your guess is as good as mine. SGD 200,000 cheaper

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oops
13-04-14, 10:58
Property cycle move up and down.. Clearly its has reach its peak and its resetting.

lajia
13-04-14, 12:31
Very soon, you will see the same group of ppl complaining again...this time for a different reason.....why their asset never grow??? Isn't that in the first place where they complain about high property price and was making them unaffordable to buy...

The dream of owning a new flat sooner than expected for the younger gen realized, however, the other part of the dream will never be realized. To make huge profit like their parents or earlier gen....
They ask for it. They get it now....:2cents:
The older gen who has not unlock their profit will now cry father cry mother....
Again, they ask for it, they get it....:2cents:

Let see what noise will come out before it get worse and before the next GE.:2cents:

teddybear
13-04-14, 14:59
These are different groups of people........
Those who cry property prices too expensive is 1 group.........
After they bought their properties, they will join the other group who owned properties, and they will cry why property prices never go up and their can't retire by monetizing their only valuable assets (because of all those cooling measures etc)????????????????
Why only cool residential properties but not commerical properties etc hence make inflation and costs of living so high????????
The govt has to make a choice - who they want to please............
They please the first or second group now, they will see what they get in GE-2016...............................


Very soon, you will see the same group of ppl complaining again...this time for a different reason.....why their asset never grow??? Isn't that in the first place where they complain about high property price and was making them unaffordable to buy...

The dream of owning a new flat sooner than expected for the younger gen realized, however, the other part of the dream will never be realized. To make huge profit like their parents or earlier gen....
They ask for it. They get it now....:2cents:
The older gen who has not unlock their profit will now cry father cry mother....
Again, they ask for it, they get it....:2cents:

Let see what noise will come out before it get worse and before the next GE.:2cents:

kane
13-04-14, 15:09
Seller shouldn't have to care about COV at all. It is all about the price they are getting. For a good price, it doesn't mean that COV needs to be high if the V is already high.

Allthepies
13-04-14, 19:25
Government, opposition, citizens are getting more and more myopic and looking for short term and immediate benefits....

Citizens giving their votes to politicians who give them immediate delights... politicians become short sighted to remain in politics... citizens continue to support politicians who delight them.. politicians become even more short sighted... the vicious cycle continues...

When a country falls, the citizens play a major part in the downfall....

Royston8H
13-04-14, 21:55
Agreed. While many non singaporeans and overseas countries are impressed about our achievement, why locals complaint so much over personal interests.

Sometimes, it is good to put into the shoes of the political party ruling the country. If it is not performing, every citizen will have to right to kick them off.

If it is really doing well, we should not complaint for the sake of complaining but not knowing this will disintegrate the society and break us apart. We can continue to provide our views over high living costs and etc.



Government, opposition, citizens are getting more and more myopic and looking for short term and immediate benefits....

Citizens giving their votes to politicians who give them immediate delights... politicians become short sighted to remain in politics... citizens continue to support politicians who delight them.. politicians become even more short sighted... the vicious cycle continues...

When a country falls, the citizens play a major part in the downfall....

minority
14-04-14, 22:27
Very soon, you will see the same group of ppl complaining again...this time for a different reason.....why their asset never grow??? Isn't that in the first place where they complain about high property price and was making them unaffordable to buy...

The dream of owning a new flat sooner than expected for the younger gen realized, however, the other part of the dream will never be realized. To make huge profit like their parents or earlier gen....
They ask for it. They get it now....:2cents:
The older gen who has not unlock their profit will now cry father cry mother....
Again, they ask for it, they get it....:2cents:

Let see what noise will come out before it get worse and before the next GE.:2cents:


Aiyah wats new? People fave pass time is kao pay. They kao pay expensive coz they want cheap. Once the have it the kao pay why never increase n once they sell kao pay expensive again. Wats new?

minority
14-04-14, 22:31
Agreed. While many non singaporeans and overseas countries are impressed about our achievement, why locals complaint so much over personal interests.

Sometimes, it is good to put into the shoes of the political party ruling the country. If it is not performing, every citizen will have to right to kick them off.

If it is really doing well, we should not complaint for the sake of complaining but not knowing this will disintegrate the society and break us apart. We can continue to provide our views over high living costs and etc.


This goes to show the immaturity n short sightness of the electorate . And a new younger generation that have not suffered like the initial generation who have to slog n build from nothing with great adversity. Today the generation feels everything are a given nothing to lose. In fact it's the opposite. We have everything to lose.

Arcachon
14-04-14, 23:10
When you want to put yourself in someone shoe, remember to take out your shoe.