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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/07/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane-missing/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html
http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0
UPDATE [12:37]: Tuoi Tre, a leading daily in Vietnam, reports that the Vietnamese Navy has confirmed the plane crashed into the ocean. According to Navy Admiral Ngo Van Phat, Commander of the Region 5, military radar recorded that the plane crashed into the sea at a location 153 miles South of Phu Quoc island.
UPDATE [11:32am]: VN Express, Vietnam's largest news site, reports that Vietnam Emergency Rescue Center just announced it has found signal of the missing plane at 9.50am 120 miles South West of Ca Mau cape, the Southern-most point of Vietnam.
The signal is believed to be the ELT (Emergency Locator Transmittor) , which can be activated manually by the flight crew or automatically upon impact.
Confirm crashed. Likely broken up in air. MAS is in big trouble.
http://news.abnxcess.com/2014/03/flash-search-aircraft-spots-two-oil-slicks-possibly-jet-engines/
The Malaysian authority should activate search and recovery aid asap and stop commenting on how and why MY airline could have crashed.
This same plane that crashed (registration 9M-MRO) was involved in a ground collision in Pudong Shanghai 2 years ago and broke its wingtips. It was repaired and put back into service. :scared-5:
http://web.archive.org/web/20121116034723/http://www.shanghaidaily.com/nsp/Metro/2012/08/10/Widebody%2Bpassenger%2Bplanes%2Bbump%2Bat%2BPudong%2BInternational/
Maybe the repaired wingtip broke off due to metal fatigue. :scared-4:
or may be it is due to oil leak....trace of the two oil slicks are quite long.
Hope the landed site can be uncovered soon to rescue the victims. :scared-5:
This same plane that crashed (registration 9M-MRO) was involved in a ground collision in Pudong Shanghai 2 years ago and broke its wingtips. It was repaired and put back into service. :scared-5:
http://web.archive.org/web/20121116034723/http://www.shanghaidaily.com/nsp/Metro/2012/08/10/Widebody%2Bpassenger%2Bplanes%2Bbump%2Bat%2BPudong%2BInternational/
Maybe the repaired wingtip broke off due to metal fatigue. :scared-4:
More details here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2576087/Malaysia-Airlines-says-plane-missing.html. Weather was good and it should have been on autopilot. Next time before boarding an airplane better check its history and maintenance record.
More details here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2576087/Malaysia-Airlines-says-plane-missing.html. Weather was good and it should have been on autopilot. Next time before boarding an airplane better check its history and maintenance record.
Yah loh, if the wing tip break off during flight sure bye bye one. :scared-3:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/08/article-2576353-1C209EEE00000578-701_634x452.jpg
Yah loh, if the wing tip break off during flight sure bye bye one. :scared-3:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/08/article-2576353-1C209EEE00000578-701_634x452.jpg
Likely due to metal fatigue. If the wing was clipped off, the plane would go into tail spin and crash into the sea. Impossible to send SOS in this case.
I got the feeling that the government is going to bail out MAS. Then taxes will have to go up to pay for the losses and compensation.
or may be it is due to oil leak....trace of the two oil slicks are quite long.
Hope the landed site can be uncovered soon to rescue the victims. :scared-5:
perhaps pilot dump the fuel to lighten the plane and make it more responsive.
..... Next time before boarding an airplane better check its history and maintenance record.
where to check and how to check?
Likely due to metal fatigue. If the wing was clipped off, the plane would go into tail spin and crash into the sea. Impossible to send SOS in this case.
I got the feeling that the government is going to bail out MAS. Then taxes will have to go up to pay for the losses and compensation.
u dont see hollywood movies? plane can still glide.
i think can expect cheaper tickets from MAS :)
MAS is not doing well. maybe cut cost ?
i wonder how safe are those premium airlines vs budget airlines. in this case, it is malaysia airline vs airasia. maintenance is always a chicken and egg to the company's profitability.:o
Wunderkind
09-03-14, 20:59
My thought and prayers go for those passengers of the missing MH370. For whatever reason the plane had gone missing, it was not something the passengers could have expected. It is very sad.
Any good conspiracy theory on this incident?
u dont see hollywood movies? plane can still glide.
i think can expect cheaper tickets from MAS :)
Hollywood I saw the president of US take a flying fox between the 777 and still have time to smile at the camera with a one liner.
where to check and how to check?
Not available at the moment, but probably customers can demand. It could be a life and death issue.
Any good conspiracy theory on this incident?
Better not conspire too much..... its a sad accident. enough rumours flying all over the net liao
Confirm crashed. Likely broken up in air. MAS is in big trouble.
http://news.abnxcess.com/2014/03/flash-search-aircraft-spots-two-oil-slicks-possibly-jet-engines/
Mid-air disintegration seems to be correct. Possibly from poor maintenance, given that MAS has been severely under cost pressure for the past few years.
Missing Malaysian jet may have disintegrated in mid-air: source
PUBLISHED MARCH 10, 2014
[KUALA LUMPUR] Officials investigating the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jetliner with 239 people on board suspect it may have disintegrated in mid-flight, a senior source said on Sunday, as Vietnam reported a possible sighting of wreckage from the plane.
International police agency Interpol confirmed that at least two passports recorded in its database as lost or stolen were used by passengers on the flight, raising suspicions of foul play.
An Interpol spokeswoman said a check of all documents used to board the plane had revealed more "suspect passports" that were being further investigated. She was unable to say how many, or from which country or countries.
Nearly 48 hours after the last contact with Flight MH370, mystery still surrounded its fate. Malaysia's air force chief said the Beijing-bound airliner may have turned back from its scheduled route before it vanished from radar screens. "The fact that we are unable to find any debris so far appears to indicate that the aircraft is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000 feet," a source involved in the investigations in Malaysia told Reuters.
If the plane had plunged intact from close to its cruising altitude, breaking up only on impact with the water, search teams would have expected to find a fairly concentrated pattern of debris, said the source, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to discuss the investigation publicly.
Asked about the possibility of an explosion, such as a bomb, the source said there was no evidence yet of foul play and that the aircraft could have broken up due to mechanical causes.
Dozens of military and civilian vessels have been criss-crossing waters beneath the aircraft's flight path, but have found no confirmed trace of the lost plane, although oil slicks have been reported in the sea south of Vietnam and east of Malaysia.
Late on Sunday, the Civil Aviation Authority of Vietnam said on its website that a Vietnamese navy plane had spotted an object in the sea suspected of being part of the plane, but that it was too dark to be certain. Search planes were set to return to investigate the suspected debris at daybreak.
WIDENING SEARCH
"The outcome so far is there is no sign of the aircraft,"Malaysian civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman said. "On the possibility of hijack, we are not ruling out any possibility," he told reporters.
The Malaysian authorities said they were widening the search to cover vast swathes of sea around Malaysia and off Vietnam, and were investigating at least two passengers who were using false identity documents.
The passenger manifest issued by the airline included the names of two Europeans - Austrian Christian Kozel and Italian Luigi Maraldi - who, according to their foreign ministries, were not on the plane. Both had apparently had their passports stolen in Thailand during the past two years.
The BBC reported that the men falsely using their passports had purchased tickets together and were due to fly on to Europe from Beijing, meaning they did not have to apply for a Chinese visa and undergo further checks.
An employee at a travel agency in Pattaya, in Thailand, told Reuters the two had purchased the tickets there.
Interpol maintains a vast database of more than 40 million lost and stolen travel documents, and has long urged member countries to make greater use of it to stop people crossing borders on false papers.
The global police organisation confirmed that Kozel's and Maraldi's passports had both been added to the database after their theft in 2012 and 2013 respectively. But it said no country had consulted the database to check either of them since the time they were stolen. "Whilst it is too soon to speculate about any connection between these stolen passports and the missing plane, it is clearly of great concern that any passenger was able to board an international flight using a stolen passport listed in Interpol's databases," Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said in a statement.
In a sign that Malaysia's airport controls may have been breached, Prime Minister Najib Razak said security procedures were being reviewed.
FOUR SUSPECTS
Malaysian Transport Minister Hishamuddin Hussein said authorities were also checking the identities of two other passengers. He said help was also being sought from the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). However, an attack was only one of the possibilities being investigated. "We are looking at all possibilities," he said. "We cannot jump the gun. Our focus now is to find the plane." The 11-year-old Boeing 777-200ER, powered by Rolls-Royce Trent engines, took off at 12:40 a.m. on Saturday(1640 GMT Friday) from Kuala Lumpur International Airport, with 227 passengers and 12 crew on board.
It last had contact with air traffic controllers 120 nautical miles off the east coast of the Malaysian town of Kota Bharu. Flight tracking website flightaware.com showed it flew northeast after takeoff, climbed to 35,000 ft (10,670 metres) and was still climbing when it vanished from tracking records.
There were no reports of bad weather. "What we have done is actually look into the recording on the radar that we have and we realised there is a possibility the aircraft did make a turnback," Rodzali Daud, the Royal Malaysian Air Force chief, told reporters at a news conference.
The search was being extended to the west coast of the Malay peninsula, in addition to a broad expanse of the sea between Malaysia and Vietnam, he said.
Vietnamese naval boats sent from the holiday island of Phu Quoc patrolled stretches of the Gulf of Thailand, scouring the area where an oil slick was spotted by patrol jets just before nightfall on Saturday.
Besides the Vietnamese vessels, Malaysia and neighbouring countries have deployed 34 aircraft and 40 ships in the search. China and the United States have sent ships to help, and Washington has also deployed a maritime surveillance plane.
US officials from Boeing, the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and the Federal Aviation Administration were on the way to Asia to help in investigations, NTSB said in a statement. Boeing said it was monitoring the situation but had no further comment.
The airline has said 14 nationalities were among the passengers, including at least 152 Chinese, 38 Malaysians, seven Indonesians, six Australians, five Indians, four French and three Americans. - Reuters
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/breaking-news/asia/missing-malaysian-jet-may-have-disintegrated-mid-air-source-20140310
if it was plane/engine failure, there would be time to send out a distress signal. it doesn't simply vanish in mid-air
hopefully the passengers have watch Lost season 1-6 so they know what to do in the island/limbo/purgatory.
hopefully the passengers have watch Lost season 1-6 so they know what to do in the island/limbo/purgatory.
can survive the plane crash den say....
can survive the plane crash den say....
the people in Lost are already dead. they are in purgatory/limbo.
Wonder if they have been searching the wrong area. :(
Now they roped in psychics to help in the search.... :doh:
http://my.news.yahoo.com/mh370-brings-bomohs--preachers-and-psychics-out-152523498.html
Now they roped in psychics to help in the search.... :doh:
http://my.news.yahoo.com/mh370-brings-bomohs--preachers-and-psychics-out-152523498.html
Predicted in 28 July 2013. :scared-1::scared-3:
http://youtu.be/Q1-NsRWv25k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUXZpC95VpQ
Malaysia Airlines Pilot BOLEH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcxizUN0z_Y
flagship74
11-03-14, 21:32
Hearsay the MH plane is traveling into 3rd Dimension now:rolleyes:
Hearsay the MH plane is traveling into 3rd Dimension now:rolleyes:
Like those happened in Bermuda Triangle?
Check out this youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcxizUN0z_Y
bargain hunter
12-03-14, 00:09
very quick again bro. good stuff!
Like those happened in Bermuda Triangle?
Check out this youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcxizUN0z_Y
They are trying to find it in the 3rd dimension. :D:doh:
http://youtu.be/wuBhKgMsv34
Boleh -> Bomoh -> Extended to west search at melacca straits....dunno what is next.
I suppose such flying SOP should be always conforms to IATA standards and should be always tracked by the nearest satellite
Worried for the passengers on board. Day by day just gone... :doh:
Now Indian ocean.... :doh:
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Likely for MAS to collapse/ go into bankruptcy if the government doesn't provide further support.
https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/about-us/sia-history/
The 1970s and 1980s
A Singapore Airlines Boeing B727 aircraft
The 1970s got underway with a bang: on 2 June 1971, MSA’s first transcontinental flight took off for London. ·
In 1972, MSA split to become two new entities – Singapore Airlines and Malaysian Airline System. ·
The rest of the decade was devoted to growth and consolidation of the newly established Singapore Airlines. The fleet was expanded to include B747s, B727s and DC10s. To provide more efficient ground services at Paya Lebar Airport, a subsidiary company, Singapore Airport Terminal Services (SATS), was set up. A B747 hangar and airfreight terminal opened in 1977. · The move to the new Singapore Changi Airport from Paya Lebar on 1 July 1981 was a big event. Two years later, Airline House, Singapore Airlines’ corporate headquarters in the Changi Airfreight Centre, was officially opened. · The first Singapore Airlines A300 Superbus went into service in February 1981, and the first B747-300 in May 1983. The first B757 and the first A310-200 arrived in November 1984. In 1989, Singapore Airlines became the first airline to operate a B747-400 on a commercial flight across the Pacific. · Tradewinds, a Singapore Airlines subsidiary, became Singapore’s second airline in February 1989. It has since been renamed SilkAir and has an established network of more than 30 destinations in the region.
Now Najib just announced that the plane turned back and was flying northwest. Maybe the Iranians who used the stolen passports hijacked the plane and made the pilot fly it to Iran?
At least, the plane did not break down due to maintenance issues...
Now Najib just announced that the plane turned back and was flying northwest. Maybe the Iranians who used the stolen passports hijacked the plane and made the pilot fly it to Iran?
At least, the plane did not break down due to maintenance issues...
I thought they escaped Iran to seek asylum in Europe using fake passport? Don't think they want to go back to Iran after all these efforts.
:beats-me-man:
Likely for MAS to collapse/ go into bankruptcy if the government doesn't provide further support.
Maybe that is the goal of this incident? :scared-5:
Or worse, the plane flew south of India over Maldives then over the Arabian sea to land in the terrorist stronghold of Yemen. Most probably painted over and hidden somewhere to be prepared as a weapon of mass destruction.
:scared-5::scared-4:
"Deliberate" disappearance of Malaysian flight fuels Chinese families' worries
POSTED: 15 Mar 2014 23:30
BEIJING: Relatives of the passengers aboard Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 voiced fear and concern Saturday after reports that the jet's diversion may have been intentional, demanding answers one week after the plane's disappearance.
As emotions over the missing plane continued to run high, China's foreign ministry and official news agency added to the urgency, upping their calls for greater clarity from the Malaysian government and other parties.
Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak told reporters in Kuala Lumpur that the plane's sudden changing of direction after vanishing from civilian radar was "consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane" and that its final satellite communication came more than six-and-a-half hours after it vanished from civilian radar.
The flight's 153 Chinese passengers comprised nearly two-thirds of the 239 people on board, and relatives gathered at the Lido Hotel in Beijing said after watching Razak's televised press conference that the prime minister's remarks did little to ease their nerves, with some openly suggesting foul play on the Malaysian side.
"I feel (Malaysia Airlines) had a role to play in this incident," Wen Wancheng, a man from east China's Shandong province whose son is among the passengers on the missing flight, told a gaggle of reporters after watching Razak's news conference.
He expressed scepticism at the latest update given by Razak regarding the time of the plane's final communication, calling the flight's disappearance "a conspiracy... from the beginning".
"The original time they gave was 1:21 am., and today it was officially changed to 8:11 am.," he said. "It's the prime minister who said it. You can tell from the timing whether they're hiding anything or not."
Several passengers' relatives told AFP after a two-hour meeting with airline representatives in Beijing earlier Saturday that they were frustrated with the lack of definite information on the plane's whereabouts.
"Right now, anything is possible," one middle-aged woman said. "We keep hoping there will be some good news, but it is not going well."
"I'm very disappointed in all of them," another woman said, referring to both the airline and the Chinese and Malaysian governments. "They haven't told us anything."
"I'm anxious. Extremely anxious," she added.
China's foreign ministry, meanwhile, continued to press Malaysia for more details, with foreign ministry spokesman Qin Gang calling in a statement for "thorough and exact information" about the missing flight.
Qin also said that Chinese "technical specialists" were on their way to Malaysia to aid with the ongoing investigation.
The official Xinhua news agency, which earlier this week emphasised China's "right of access to the latest information" from Malaysian authorities, ratcheted up its criticism in a Saturday night commentary suggesting that either a "dereliction of duty or reluctance to share information" was to blame.
"As the leader of the international search and rescue mission, Malaysia bears inescapable responsibility," Xinhua wrote.
"Other parties that possess valuable data and information, including plane maker Boeing, engine manufacturer Rolls-Royce and intelligence superpower the United States, should also have done a better job," it said.
With conspiracy theories abounding -- and with family members desperately clinging on to hope of their loved ones' existence -- many users of China's online social networks shared a news report of a woman who said she had received a missed call from her father, who was on board the plane.
The unnamed woman "said she had gotten a missed call from her father onboard, and the number said 'powered off' later when she called back," the Beijing Times reported. :eek:
Other users responded with relief at the possibility that the incident may have been a hijacking rather than a crash.
"A hijacking is better than a crash," said one user of Sina Weibo, a Chinese version of Twitter. "Hope Malaysia will not come out and deny it later."
- AFP/ac
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/deliberate-disappearance/1037038.html
Maybe that is the goal of this incident? :scared-5:
Or worse, the plane flew south of India over Maldives then over the Arabian sea to land in the terrorist stronghold of Yemen. Most probably painted over and hidden somewhere to be prepared as a weapon of mass destruction.
:scared-5::scared-4:
try flying into foreign airspace and you'll be shot down even before reaching the shores. unless it's malaysia, they allow jetliners to fly off course across the country and know nothing of it :doh::doh::doh:
if it's terrorism, the hijackers could have just turned the plane towards KL and take out petronas towers
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