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almost $250k net profit! not bad
760
Bedok Reservoir Road
#03-01
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$751
1313
$986k
17-Mar-08
760
Bedok Reservoir Road
#03-01
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$959
1313
$1260k
20-May-10
devilplate
18-06-10, 17:03
well done!:cheers6:
so who say we shudnt invest in OCR ppty
You r right!
Last time when we bought WFW at $600-$650psf, and ppl thought we were crazy. :D
well done!:cheers6:
so who say we shudnt invest in OCR ppty
You r right!
Last time when we bought WFW at $600-$650psf, and ppl thought we were crazy. :D
Missed the starbuy... :(
Yes we are going to have our CRAZY BBQ NITE very soon!:D
You r right!
Last time when we bought WFW at $600-$650psf, and ppl thought we were crazy. :D
devilplate
18-06-10, 20:38
You r right!
Last time when we bought WFW at $600-$650psf, and ppl thought we were crazy. :D
err..initial launch mabe crazy..but later on got starbuy leh...3bedder facing park goodie! still can i tink 5 to 10 flr to choose:D
the funny thing is, ppl choose to buy the 2bedder at 750psf facing park at tat time...but dunwan 650psf high flr 3bedder facing park:D
waterfront gold no park view...only reservoir view..:D
i nvr imagine getting close to 1kpsf..its like a dream..so dreamy:D
if you read the previous comments of this thread, even at $600psf ppl thought its still crazily high...
compared with current market, its cheap like crazy :cheers1:
err..initial launch mabe crazy..but later on got starbuy leh...3bedder facing park goodie! still can i tink 5 to 10 flr to choose:D
the funny thing is, ppl choose to buy the 2bedder at 750psf facing park at tat time...but dunwan 650psf high flr 3bedder facing park:D
waterfront gold no park view...only reservoir view..:D
i nvr imagine getting close to 1kpsf..its like a dream..so dreamy:D
Did you get any unit at other development during that starbuy period?
Missed the starbuy... :(
High chance MRT station below the ground infront blk 708, with maybe 2-3 exits at each junction.
can enlarge image ? is there a mrt station at blk 704 ?
devilplate
19-06-10, 12:06
if you read the previous comments of this thread, even at $600psf ppl thought its still crazily high...
compared with current market, its cheap like crazy :cheers1:
during tat period, some of my frens/relatives were asking me y i keep buying when they r worried about their businesses and rice bowls
when ppl r in the state of despair, everything to them is expensive.
during tat period, i was having lots of stress checking whether the seller got $ to pay the losses incurred anot.:scared-3:
Waterfront Waves Private Forum
http://waterfrontwaves.freeforums.org/index.php
Is this little hill reserved for future development?
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8075/wfw25.jpg
Yes, location is quite good. Beside makan places and
markets.
The new site is 4.56ha (~490k sqft) with a plot ratio of 1.4.
Plot ratio for WFW/WFK is 2.5, and the site area is ard 215k sqft.
The GFA for the new site is about 25% larger than WFW/WFK, and can build close to 600 units, which is ~25% more units than WFW/WFK.
So, 15 floor/stack is not an issue. :p
mayb not the entire hill, or only half of the hill... it will be nice if the condo is built on the hill :D
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7592/hilleb.jpg
Is this little hill reserved for future development?
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8075/wfw25.jpg
But imagine if the entire development is block from reservoir view by the remain hill and trees on top of it. What waste and what a joke.:doh:
mayb not the entire hill, or only half of the hill... it will be nice if the condo is built on the hill :D
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7592/hilleb.jpg
this mayb the first waterfront project without waterfront view... if FEO win the land, it may name it Hillview @ the East :D :D
But imagine if the entire development is block from reservoir view by the remain hill and trees on top of it. What waste and what a joke.:doh:
this mayb the first waterfront project without waterfront view... if FEO win the land, it may name it Hillview @ the East :D :D
:D how about waterfront hill ......
WFW is the big brother here! :p
:D how about waterfront hill ......
Crazy WFW members:
Gathering at WFG showflat this coming Sunday, 12pm-2pm. Lets join us if u free. :cheers1:
Duno got BBQ or not, ahaha :D
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6985/wfw1condosing.jpg
Good progress! Nice :cheers1:
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6985/wfw1condosing.jpg
Yes good progress. Most of the stacks with windows installed up to 10th floor.
Good progress! Nice :cheers1:
can't wait to see them put on the paint...
Yes good progress. Most of the stacks with windows installed up to 10th floor.
2 bedder stacks
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3107/wfw21.jpg
These 2-bedder owners must b laughing to the bank now... For the same price only can get a 1-bedder at WF Gold with only half of the size of WF Waves 2-bedder....
2 bedder stacks
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3107/wfw21.jpg
I am also laughing all the way back home from WFG showflat too.
The price I paid for my high floor pool facing 3 bedder can only get an equivalent low floor 1 + Study unit.
:cheers4: to All Waterfront Waves & Waterfront Key owners.
These 2-bedder owners must b laughing to the bank now... For the same price only can get a 1-bedder at WF Gold with only half of the size of WF Waves 2-bedder....
devilplate
27-06-10, 18:31
the showflat oredi not packed....plus mabe 50% ex wave/key buyers come and kapoh...really pathetic...:D
Many units have been sold. Even the penthouse.
the showflat oredi not packed....plus mabe 50% ex wave/key buyers come and kapoh...really pathetic...:D
Did u get a unit? Since u visited n showed great interest...
the showflat oredi not packed....plus mabe 50% ex wave/key buyers come and kapoh...really pathetic...:D
devilplate
27-06-10, 19:58
Did u get a unit? Since u visited n showed great interest...
didnt have my choice unit...i only want 08-16
These 2-bedder owners must b laughing to the bank now... For the same price only can get a 1-bedder at WF Gold with only half of the size of WF Waves 2-bedder....
Yah loh, stack 15 starbuys all below 600k... :( I was a step too late to grab the starbuys. Not fated to live here. :(
Yah loh, stack 15 starbuys all below 600k... :( I was a step too late to grab the starbuys. Not fated to live here. :(
you have bought somewhere and made good paper profit right ? no point upset about a missed opportunity lah.
bargain hunter
28-06-10, 09:22
In today's BT:
68 out of 150 units launched were sold at Waterfront Gold as of yesterday.
Over 70% of units sold were 1, 1+1 and 2 bedders.
In today's BT:
68 out of 150 units launched were sold at Waterfront Gold as of yesterday.
Over 70% of units sold were 1, 1+1 and 2 bedders.
:2cents: i think the 3 & 4 bedder will be slow to move ...
as long as you bought some thing during that period then should feel happy now. cheers!
Yah loh, stack 15 starbuys all below 600k... :( I was a step too late to grab the starbuys. Not fated to live here. :(
yes, 3 & 4 bedder units r smaller than WFW & WFK, so the quantum is actually lower... but if look at the $psf then pengzannn...
:2cents: i think the 3 & 4 bedder will be slow to move ...
Well, if its not worth its size in gold, at least its worth its price. :scared-4:
yes, 3 & 4 bedder units r smaller than WFW & WFK, so the quantum is actually lower... but if look at the $psf then pengzannn...
Gold is currently trading at US$1262, can WFG match this price? :D :cheers1:
Well, if its not worth its size in gold, at least its worth its price. :scared-4:
I bet DTL3 - Waterfront Station to be here :D :p :spliff: , lets see.
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4886/bedokpark.jpg
One of the exits maybe here: :D
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/904/bedokpark2.jpg
Future MRT station under this ground? :D
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8789/bedokpark3.jpg
You have info that we dont know?:cool:
Future MRT station under this ground? :D
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8789/bedokpark3.jpg
Heard staffs from the developer r also buying into waterfront project. :confused:
You have info that we dont know?:cool:
found this from another forum, someone predicted the DTL3 station. :D
Not sure real anot :scared-5:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/tamagoo/bus2/DTL3/DT27-DT28.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/tamagoo/bus2/DTL3/DT28-DT29.png
Did they predict where the other stations, if indeed true then the waterfront collection is really seating on a pot of gold.
found this from another forum, someone predicted the DTL3 station. :D
Not sure real anot :scared-5:
this prediction is based on facts & fundamental, not any how whack one :D ... I m also having the same prediction but too lazy to draw on the map :sleep:
Did they predict where the other stations, if indeed true then the waterfront collection is really seating on a pot of gold.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/tamagoo/bus2/DTL3/DT24-DT25.png
:scared-3:this is exactly what the soil testing investigators pointed out to me somewhere last year!!! I thought they were joking.
But best to wait for the official announcement. :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
found this from another forum, someone predicted the DTL3 station. :D
Not sure real anot :scared-5:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/tamagoo/bus2/DTL3/DT27-DT28.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/tamagoo/bus2/DTL3/DT25-DT26.png
kEN9170, where were the soil engineers? Here as shown below?
Soil testing machine behind waterfront KEY :scared-3:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8081/soill.jpg
:scared-3:this is exactly what the soil testing investigators pointed out to me somewhere last year!!! I thought they were joking.
But best to wait for the official announcement. :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
The engineers were stationed at two locations. At the park near Blk 708-709 and behind WFK. Just happened i was there jogging and decided to approach them. Was told the testing is for future underground train running across the town park and there will be 2 proposed stations in the park. This info tally with the predicted stations location map that you posted earlier.
kEN9170, where were the soil engineers? Here as shown below?
Soil testing machine behind waterfront KEY :scared-3:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8081/soill.jpg
Wow, if like that then vry likely there will be MRT station at the park. :p
I also heard that LTA will invite bid for the construction of DTL3 stations some time in the 3Q this yr. So the official announcement should be quite near... The designs of DTL3 stations have been awarded to Aedas & Arup, TY Lin International & Ong & Ong Pte Ltd, Meinhardt Infrastructure Pte Ltd.
Maybe FEO and FCL also get this news, that's they r holding back some of the WFG stacks.
The engineers were stationed at two locations. At the park near Blk 708-709 and behind WFK. Just happened i was there jogging and decided to approach them. Was told the testing is for future underground train running across the town park and there will be 2 proposed stations in the park. This info tally with the predicted stations location map that you posted earlier.
really interesting... :spliff:
kEN9170, where were the soil engineers? Here as shown below?
Soil testing machine behind waterfront KEY :scared-3:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8081/soill.jpg
What does the dotted lines mean? :confused:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/tamagoo/bus2/DTL3/DT25-DT26.png
MRT track to Depot 2
What does the dotted lines mean? :confused:
Depot 2 will be connecting to DT25 & DT27 stations.
MRT track to Depot 2
Finally!!! :D
The three sites at Bedok, Yishun and Jurong West are from the confirmed list under the government land sales (GLS) programme in the second half of the year. The Housing & Development Board (HDB) is handling the tenders.
Of these sites, the 99-year-lease one at New Upper Changi Road/Bedok North Drive attracted the most attention because it can house a commercial-residential development which will be integrated with a bus interchange.
The 2.49 hectare site is at Bedok Town Centre, next to Bedok MRT Station, and is surrounded by amenities such as supermarkets and a library. It has a maximum permissible gross floor area (GFA) of 938,157 square feet and can yield an estimated 475 dwelling units.
DTZ South-east Asia research head Chua Chor Hoon believes this plot is the most attractive of the three because it is centrally located in a well populated town. Also, 'there are only a few mixed sites available at the heart of HDB estates in the GLS programme', she said.
:D :D :D must sell higher than centro .... 1500 psf :spliff: :spliff: :spliff:
http://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/fi10297p.nsf/ImageView/Bedok%20P1%20Main/$file/Web-Bedok-P1-copy.jpg
New development @ Bedok Interchange.
http://a.imageshack.us/img820/9259/bedokp1photo.jpg
karenproperty
16-07-10, 20:21
Hi, anyone interested in single level penthouse in Waterfront Waves? TOP 2011.
:D :D :D must sell higher than centro .... 1500 psf :spliff: :spliff: :spliff:
Quite difficult...
How cheap?
Hi, anyone interested in single level penthouse in Waterfront Waves? TOP 2011.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7712/wfwcondosing.jpg
Waves looks good in white! :cheers1:
Thanks for the update :D
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7712/wfwcondosing.jpg
nice area... got potential
What is the distance between two blocks? It looks quite near from the photo.
indeed. :p
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8677/wfw1.jpg
nice area... got potential
Park facing units.
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8976/wfw16.jpg
2 Bedder Stacks
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5325/wfw17.jpg
For more photos, please click on the Signature link below!
hmnnn... balcony railing already installed up to 6th-7th floor. :)
Park facing units.
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8976/wfw16.jpg
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6213/fct.jpg
766 Bedok Reservoir Road #06-23
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$661psf
1313sqft
$867k
766 Bedok Reservoir Road #06-23
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$800psf
1313sqft
$1050k
762 Bedok Reservoir Road #02-17
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$632psf
1518sqft
$960k
762 Bedok Reservoir Road #02-17
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$804psf
1518sqft
$1220k
Average of $250k of profit in 1.5 yrs. Not too bad. Now waiting for the MRT news to boost the psf.
GOLD is already selling at a minimum of $850psf. more room for Waves :D
Expect >$900psf for 3-bedder unit after TOP nxt yr :p
766 Bedok Reservoir Road #06-23
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$661psf
1313sqft
$867k
766 Bedok Reservoir Road #06-23
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$800psf
1313sqft
$1050k
762 Bedok Reservoir Road #02-17
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$632psf
1518sqft
$960k
762 Bedok Reservoir Road #02-17
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$804psf
1518sqft
$1220k
devilplate
23-07-10, 22:13
:D HUAT!:D:cheers1:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/340/theedge.jpg
u hav any unit?
:D HUAT!:D:cheers1:
Nice park view during sunset :p
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7449/70099593.jpg
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/9783/84483315.jpg
766 Bedok Reservoir Road #06-23
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$661psf
1313sqft
$867k
766 Bedok Reservoir Road #06-23
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$800psf
1313sqft
$1050k
762 Bedok Reservoir Road #02-17
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$632psf
1518sqft
$960k
762 Bedok Reservoir Road #02-17
99 Yrs From 31/10/2007
$804psf
1518sqft
$1220k
:cool: wow scala selling at 1150psf ... when mrt is up , waterfront series should hit above 1k psf :D
It's a sleeping dragon. Only thing missing is MRT, which is coming. Location wise will anyone dare to claim that its worse than Treehouse or Scala? Probably not. It's afterall district 16. I'm surprised the pricing has not been more agressive.
devilplate
30-07-10, 18:23
It's a sleeping dragon. Only thing missing is MRT, which is coming. Location wise will anyone dare to claim that its worse than Treehouse or Scala? Probably not. It's afterall district 16. I'm surprised the pricing has not been more agressive.
relax..
i also feel tat all my ppty r UNDERVALUED!!!!!!!!:D :D :D
patience is the game...PROPERTISM!!!!!!
ops been using jlrx's term....got copyright infringment issues anot?:scared-5:
I have no problems with it being undervalued. Godd for investors and owners. It simply means more upside. I'm just surprised that the pricing by the developers is not more aggressive, especially when one of them is FEO. lol.
relax..
i also feel tat all my ppty r UNDERVALUED!!!!!!!!:D :D :D
patience is the game...PROPERTISM!!!!!!
ops been using jlrx's term....got copyright infringment issues anot?:scared-5:
devilplate
30-07-10, 18:39
I have no problems with it being undervalued. Godd for investors and owners. It simply means more upside. I'm just surprised that the pricing by the developers is not more aggressive, especially when one of them is FEO. lol.
FCP is controlling WFG prices...so if u tink WFG underpriced....wrong timing? wrong marketing strategy? wrong concept? wrong sizes? wrong quantum? well, they oredi cannot sell well at current pricing oredi...so wat makes u tink tat they had underpriced or not agressive enuff? to me, they oredi very agressive...tats y sales response wasnt good compared to scala
well, still got the very last plot of land haven launch!! and tat project is SOLELY BY FEO!!!!:cheers6:
Then perhaps there is something wrong with FCP mgmt. :doh:
FCP is controlling WFG prices...so if u tink WFG underpriced....wrong timing? wrong marketing strategy? wrong concept? wrong sizes? wrong quantum? well, they oredi cannot sell well at current pricing oredi...so wat makes u tink tat they had underpriced or not agressive enuff? to me, they oredi very agressive...tats y sales response wasnt good compared to scala
well, still got the very last plot of land haven launch!! and tat project is SOLELY BY FEO!!!!:cheers6:
Waterfront condo is super-laggard. BUY!
It's a sleeping dragon. Only thing missing is MRT, which is coming. Location wise will anyone dare to claim that its worse than Treehouse or Scala? Probably not. It's afterall district 16. I'm surprised the pricing has not been more agressive.
agreed! must hav long term view :cheers1:
relax..
i also feel tat all my ppty r UNDERVALUED!!!!!!!!:D :D :D
patience is the game...PROPERTISM!!!!!!
ops been using jlrx's term....got copyright infringment issues anot?:scared-5:
Over-supply of condo around Bedok reservoir area in the near term... few more plots coming up soon, ppls r taking their time.
if the MRT station is ready by now, then it'll b different story.
FCP is controlling WFG prices...so if u tink WFG underpriced....wrong timing? wrong marketing strategy? wrong concept? wrong sizes? wrong quantum? well, they oredi cannot sell well at current pricing oredi...so wat makes u tink tat they had underpriced or not agressive enuff? to me, they oredi very agressive...tats y sales response wasnt good compared to scala
well, still got the very last plot of land haven launch!! and tat project is SOLELY BY FEO!!!!:cheers6:
Longer you wait, higher you may have to pay based on propertism. So should buyer wait? Dats the million dollar question.
Over-supply of condo around Bedok reservoir area in the near term... few more plots coming up soon, ppls r taking their time.
if the MRT station is ready by now, then it'll b different story.
devilplate
31-07-10, 14:46
Longer you wait, higher you may have to pay based on propertism. So should buyer wait? Dats the million dollar question.
for condo: buyers shd wait longer! den later buy from me at higher prices when i feel like cashing out:D
for landed: sellers dun wait liao...bubble coming...sell cheap cheap b4 bubble burst...haha
for HDB: govt pls do smthing about it....i still not eligible to buy 1!!! HDB prices pls crash...hahaha...better still...pls crash when i can buy 1:D
2 sides of the coin.
nobody will be able to give u an unbiased answer.:D
You win. hahhaha.
for condo: buyers shd wait longer! den later buy from me at higher prices when i feel like cashing out:D
for landed: sellers dun wait liao...bubble coming...sell cheap cheap b4 bubble burst...haha
for HDB: govt pls do smthing about it....i still not eligible to buy 1!!! HDB prices pls crash...hahaha...better still...pls crash when i can buy 1:D
2 sides of the coin.
nobody will be able to give u an unbiased answer.:D
agreed! must hav long term view :cheers1:
People who bought bishan 8 also have long term view. Then what happened? It seems that prices at range above $1k not likely to enjoy significant capital gain unless whole market change drastically, at least next 10 years. By then new condo more attractive ....the cycle repeats. So unless plan to lease out or own stay, $1k price above range not worthwhile if hope capital gain.
dont waste ur time debating, lets enjoy the view :cheers6:
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/3170/91192936.jpg
Best view of reservoir. :cheers1:
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8185/78709320.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8201/wfwcondosing1.jpg
Nice! Great capture. 完全符合黄金比例！
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8201/wfwcondosing1.jpg
First coat of paint.
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8976/wfw16.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9369/wfwcs.jpg
A private forum has been created for all the Waterfront Condos @ Bedok Reservoir by FEO & FCL.
Pls visit: http://waterfrontwaves.freeforums.org/index.php (http://waterfrontwaves.freeforums.org/index.php)
YOG Torch at Bedok Reservoir :D
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2296/syog10.jpg
Photos from George Yeo's facebook
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5981/syog11.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1710/syog.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9923/syog1.jpg
eh friend... why noble so jialat... every analyst's target price over $2.00 but the stock everyday go down a bit.... sian... if i keep averaging down every time it goes down i will soon be pok kai :D :D
2Q result just released, nothing more to say... If u hav long term view on this company, accumulate during price weakness.
eh friend... why noble so jialat... every analyst's target price over $2.00 but the stock everyday go down a bit.... sian... if i keep averaging down every time it goes down i will soon be pok kai :D :D
how come the first floor looks so low?
Isn't it suppose to be on elevated ground?
First coat of paint.
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8976/wfw16.jpg
Its the angle. From the photo, the ground floor is at least raised to the height of the pole you see at the front.
how come the first floor looks so low?
Isn't it suppose to be on elevated ground?
Its the angle. From the photo, the ground floor is at least raised to the height of the pole you see at the front.
thanks! looks like fifth floor will still not be able to look over the trees.
I think the lowest floor to have a decent view is 6 or 7.
thanks! looks like fifth floor will still not be able to look over the trees.
eh friend... why noble so jialat... every analyst's target price over $2.00 but the stock everyday go down a bit.... sian... if i keep averaging down every time it goes down i will soon be pok kai :D :D
:D switch counter lor .... so much easier than to switch property ...
Sunset @ Bedok Reservoir
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3479/52940618.jpg
Downtown Line 3 Station Locations Unveiled
Faster Access for Residents in the East to the City and Marina Bay Area
1. The Land Transport Authority (LTA) is pleased to announce the rail alignment and station locations for Downtown Line 3 (DTL3).
2. The 21-km long DTL3 is the final stretch of the 42-km Downtown Line. It will enhance rail connectivity in the eastern corridors to the Central Business District (CBD) and developments in the Marina Bay area. Fully underground, DTL3 comprises 16 stations, including three interchange stations: MacPherson, Tampines and Expo. These interchange stations will link to the Circle Line (CCL) and the East West Line (EWL), providing greater accessibility and significantly improve travel time for commuters.
Enhanced Connectivity and Greater Travel Time Saving for Commuters with DTL3
3. Mr Lim Bok Ngam, Acting Chief Executive, LTA said: "Commercial and residential developments along DTL3 will now have easy access to the Marina Bay area, including the Marina Bay Sands Integrated Resort and the Marina Bay Financial Centre. DTL3 will expand our Rail Transit System (RTS) network further and provide greater connectivity for commuters, thus increasing the appeal of public transport".
4. DTL3 will also complement the EWL and serve residents along the MacPherson, Bedok Reservoir and Kaki Bukit area, providing significant time savings for residents in these estates. For example, a Tampines resident travelling to Kaki Bukit will have his journey time reduced by more than half, from 25 minutes by bus to 10 minutes by DTL3. Besides time savings, DTL3 will also strategicalalso strategically interchange with the EWL at Tampines and Expo stations to serve the Changi Business Park developments.
Improved Integration With the Rest of the Rail Network
5. With three interchange stations, DTL3 will also improve accessibility to other areas:
a) MacPherson interchange station will link DTL3 to CCL. Workers coming from the north and north-west of Singapore who now rely on buses to travel will be able to conveniently access the industrial estates of Ubi and Kaki Bukit which are one to two stations away from MacPherson station.
b) Conveniently located beside the existing EWL Tampines station and bus interchange, the DTL Tampines station will form the future Tampines transport hub. This will provide seamless access for commuters who frequent the Tampines Regional Centre.
c) Expo interchange station will link DTL3 to EWL and provide convenient access for companies located in the Changi Business Park. The station will also serve the needs of students from the future university that will be located within walking distance of the two stations.
Downtown Line
6. The Government announced its decision to build the DTL in three stages on 27 April 2007. DTL will support the development of the Downtown and Marina Bay area. It will also serve the new developments along Ophir-Rochor Road corridor as well as the existing and future developments in the Marina Bay area, including One Raffles Quay, The Sail @ Marina Bay, Marina Bay Sands Integrated Resorts and the Marina Bay Financial Centre. All civil construction contracts for DTL 1 and 2 have been awarded.
7. When fully operational in 2017, the 34 stations on DTL will serve about 500,000 commuters daily.
8. All efforts have been mades have been made to minimise land acquisition for DTL3. The private lands that are affected by acquisition are - a Shell petrol station along Upper Changi Road East, two parking lots at Bencoolen House, a section of the food court at Peony Mansion, vacant spaces behind Kaki Bukit Techpark and Techview Building and vacant land next to Plaza by the Park. To optimize land use, 15 terrace houses along Merpati Road and Jalan Anggerek will be acquired for comprehensive redevelopment together with the adjacent State land for high density residential development. The Singapore Land Authority (SLA) has gazetted the lands affected by acquisition today.
Congrats to all Waterfront condo owners!
http://www.lta.gov.sg/images/Alignment%20of%20DTL.pdf
Congrats to all Waterfront condo owners!
http://www.lta.gov.sg/images/Alignment%20of%20DTL.pdf
Where is the exact location? Looks like is around the empty space to the right of the canal?? Tampines West looks like near ST Hilda
the main things is where is the exact location?? juz based on the station name still cannot figure out where ? hope can have someone share with us
bro, maybe you can post the official sewer diversion plan diagrams here. :D
Congrats to all Waterfront condo owners!
http://www.lta.gov.sg/images/Alignment%20of%20DTL.pdf
To recap, DT27 is Bedok Town Park and DT28 is Bedok Reservoir (based on LTA DTL3 Alignment map).
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1421/mapl.jpg
found this from another forum, someone predicted the DTL3 station. :D
Not sure real anot :scared-5:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/tamagoo/bus2/DTL3/DT27-DT28.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/tamagoo/bus2/DTL3/DT28-DT29.png
oh, i didnt post before meh? :confused: :D
bro, maybe you can post the official sewer diversion plan diagrams here. :D
One station must be within 400m from Temasek Poly so I bet empty space opposite Aquarius by the Park
think LTA will upload the engineering plan for each station onto their website soon.
Actually we kind of estimated the station location few months back based on the official undergrd sewer diversion enginering drawing... which was issued by the DTL3 station designer/architect & LTA.
Will upload the drawings soon.
Where is the exact location? Looks like is around the empty space to the right of the canal?? Tampines West looks like near ST Hilda
not sure abt that, but for sure one station will be behind WFK & Baywater condo, at the park :D
One station must be within 400m from Temasek Poly so I bet empty space opposite Aquarius by the Park
Here are the sewer diversion engineering drawings, to facilitate the construction of DTL3 stations, released by LTA few months ago... :D
Bedok Reservoir
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2930/reservoirstation.jpg
Tampinese West
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5692/dt29.jpg
Tampines
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5271/dt30.jpg
Tampines East
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2633/dt31i.jpg
Think i lost the one for Bedok Town park :banghead:
dont worry, its vry near. if buy for investment, its time to look for buyer :D
the main things is where is the exact location?? juz based on the station name still cannot figure out where ? hope can have someone share with us
7 years is a long time:sleep:
not long yet not short... atleast the line will support the value of the condos around the reservoir. :cheers1:
7 years is a long time:sleep:
not long yet not short... atleast the line will support the value of the condos around the reservoir. :cheers1:
timing is everything; 7 yrs wld probably witness at least 1 pty cycle of boom & bust ~ :spliff:
Well, depends on how you look at it, both D28 and D29 are within 400 meters of the edge of Temasek Poly based on the diagram above. :p
One station must be within 400m from Temasek Poly so I bet empty space opposite Aquarius by the Park
Interestingly, from the posts you probably can tell who have vested interest and who wished they had. :beats-me-man:
7 years is a long time:sleep:
Yes, timing is vry important... Those who bought during starbuy 1.5 yr ago is now laughing happily even b4 moving in with a net gain of atleast $250k! :scared-1:
timing is everything; 7 yrs wld probably witness at least 1 pty cycle of boom & bust ~ :spliff:
think price will not appreciate as fast. cos the news juz release. but i think for investment it is time to look for buyers as hope mkt will support the rise of price. currently bad news flown out from USA, hope mkt can sustain
Congrats to all Waterfront Owners!
After watching Singapore beat Montenegro, PM must be too happy and
ask RL is time to announce the DTL 3 as a celebration.
Some more link to the new Uni - for short or long term sure chionh & huat!!!!!:D huat!!!!:D
devilplate
21-08-10, 00:03
HUATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
BUT...its still a mass market condo afterall...
the funny part is to have bencoolen mrt stn....nearby got rochor and bras basah...so close to each other
river valley mrt surprisingly to be located near to UE sq instead of GW...
agents will start to market waterfront condos with 2 MRT stations within walking distance! haha :scared-1:
think price will not appreciate as fast. cos the news juz release. but i think for investment it is time to look for buyers as hope mkt will support the rise of price. currently bad news flown out from USA, hope mkt can sustain
Wonder who had attended the WFK Dinner reception last night (19 Aug)?
Maybe FEO to celebrate DTL3 announcement today.
agents will start to market waterfront condos with 2 MRT stations within walking distance! haha :scared-1:
yeah. i think they got the first hand news. maybe we can check out the showflat this weekend. :D
Wonder who had attended the WFK Dinner reception last night (19 Aug)?
Maybe FEO to celebrate DTL3 announcement today.
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1421/mapl.jpg
devilplate
21-08-10, 00:31
the last plot of land beside GOLD will definitely launch at 1100psf onwards...shall wait for tat launch:D :cheers6:
will b launched by end of this yr.
the last plot of land beside GOLD will definitely launch at 1100psf onwards...shall wait for tat launch:D :cheers6:
The actual location of Bedok Town Park and Bedok Reservoir in today's Straits Time A6.
Bedok Town Park
On Bedok North Road.
Outside Bedok Industrial Park C
Near Bedok West Pri School
Bedok Reservoir
Near the intersection of Bedok North Ave 3 and PIE
Near the east end of Bedok Reservoir Park
Congrats to all Waterfront buyers! :cheers4:
The actual location of Bedok Town Park and Bedok Reservoir in today's Straits Time A6.
Bedok Town Park
On Bedok North Road.
Outside Bedok Industrial Park C
Near Bedok West Pri School
Bedok Reservoir
Near the intersection of Bedok North Ave 3 and PIE
Near the east end of Bedok Reservoir Park
Congrats to all Waterfront buyers! :cheers4:
Congrats ... but it is a bit too far from WFG and the last plot, isn't it?
Bedok West Pri is still within walking distance to WFG/WFI.
Anyway both stations still accessible by the whole Waterfront Collections.
Congrats ... but it is a bit too far from WFG and the last plot, isn't it?
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5138/dtl3.jpg
Bay water will Chiong liaw lol.
Haha. Agents will market waterfront condo with 2 mrt stations. Actually too near is also not vry nice. Now the location is jus perfect! I enjoy walkin at the town park.
Bedok West Pri is still within walking distance to WFG/WFI.
Anyway both stations still accessible by the whole Waterfront Collections.
Bedok West Pri is still within walking distance to WFG/WFI.
Anyway both stations still accessible by the whole Waterfront Collections.
Please don't strech the limit. :)
Should just look forward for Bedok Reservoir Station.
WFG is definite losing to their brothers in term of distance toward MRT station.
Baywater n Clearwater r still laggard, price will cheong soon! DTL3 unlocked their value! Buy buy buy! Lol!
Bay water will Chiong liaw lol.
Look like i m right! Hulala!
I bet DTL3 - Waterfront Station to be here :D :p :spliff: , lets see.
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4886/bedokpark.jpg
This is also the location pointed to me by the soil investigation enginneer last year. :D
Look like i m right! Hulala!
Bay water will Chiong liaw lol.
You think so? Buy and wait 7 yrs:sleep: . If price is not much difference, I will rather choose the newer waterfront collection:D
From the photo, Baywater 50-100m walk, WFK 200-300m walk, WFW 400-500m walk depends on whether u stay near the park, WFG beyond 500m
Sorry guys, full of sweat if walk beyond 500m
I stay about 300m from MRT, just about the distance to have no sweat ....
I can see WFW in the background in that photo :cheers1:
WFW/WFG owners have the option to take a bus along Bedok Reservoir Road to the Bedok Park station though ... bus should be very frequent ...
From the photo, Baywater 50-100m walk, WFK 200-300m walk, WFW 400-500m walk depends on whether u stay near the park, WFG beyond 500m
Sorry guys, full of sweat if walk beyond 500m
I stay about 300m from MRT, just about the distance to have no sweat ....
I can see WFW in the background in that photo :cheers1:
WFW/WFG owners have the option to take a bus along Bedok Reservoir Road to the Bedok Park station though ... bus should be very frequent ...
Now I understand why the developer release WFG in a hurry by end of June. if they don't push WFG to market and sell more units, by the time DTL3 station is announced it is more difficult to sell as price premium, buyers would rather go for WFK or WFW.:cheers4:
Should be WFI/WFG need to take bus bah.
Since it's all underground, there maybe an underground aircon passageway to link both stations in the park. No sweat liow. :D
From the photo, Baywater 50-100m walk, WFK 200-300m walk, WFW 400-500m walk depends on whether u stay near the park, WFG beyond 500m
Sorry guys, full of sweat if walk beyond 500m
I stay about 300m from MRT, just about the distance to have no sweat ....
I can see WFW in the background in that photo :cheers1:
WFW/WFG owners have the option to take a bus along Bedok Reservoir Road to the Bedok Park station though ... bus should be very frequent ...
so easy sweat even walking? sure not enough of exercise... the body is not efficient therefore need to consume more oxygen and energy for the same amount of work.
jog 4.3km around the reservoir is also tak ada rasa! :D
From the photo, Baywater 50-100m walk, WFK 200-300m walk, WFW 400-500m walk depends on whether u stay near the park, WFG beyond 500m
Sorry guys, full of sweat if walk beyond 500m
I stay about 300m from MRT, just about the distance to have no sweat ....
I can see WFW in the background in that photo :cheers1:
WFW/WFG owners have the option to take a bus along Bedok Reservoir Road to the Bedok Park station though ... bus should be very frequent ...
devilplate
21-08-10, 12:48
i begin to believe tat flash floods r caused by construction of new mrt lines...:doh:
Wild Falcon
21-08-10, 14:14
Never realise Bedok Reservior is so far from town until I see the map. Might take 15 stations to reach Raffles Place isn't it? Not sure if I counted wrongly but it's really considered very far. Might have the oppposite effect - i.e. people suddenly realising how far this place is from town.
Bay water will Chiong liaw lol.
Never realise Bedok Reservior is so far from town until I see the map. Might take 15 stations to reach Raffles Place isn't it? Not sure if I counted wrongly but it's really considered very far. Might have the oppposite effect - i.e. people suddenly realising how far this place is from town.
driving could be faster ?
If you look at Google map, the proximity between WFG/WFI to the assumed Reservoir station is about the distance between DBR and Simei Station. Will future owners break a sweat walking from DBR to Simei station? I don't think so if you ask the owners. At least there is potential for an extended underground entrance/exit that may be close to the HDB behind WFG where there will be side gates. Let's not be negative when sharing opinions shall we?
From the photo, Baywater 50-100m walk, WFK 200-300m walk, WFW 400-500m walk depends on whether u stay near the park, WFG beyond 500m
Sorry guys, full of sweat if walk beyond 500m
I stay about 300m from MRT, just about the distance to have no sweat ....
I can see WFW in the background in that photo :cheers1:
WFW/WFG owners have the option to take a bus along Bedok Reservoir Road to the Bedok Park station though ... bus should be very frequent ...
People are certainly hard to please. When no MRT, they complain too much time taking bus. When got MRT, they say too far from the city. I guess you cannot make everyone happy. One thing is clear, those who own a Waterfront collection unit are happy while those who don't are certainly not based on the comments. Well, not too late to get one. :banghead:
Never realise Bedok Reservior is so far from town until I see the map. Might take 15 stations to reach Raffles Place isn't it? Not sure if I counted wrongly but it's really considered very far. Might have the oppposite effect - i.e. people suddenly realising how far this place is from town.
A lot will also depend on where and how many exits they build. If they decide to 'pull' on close to the HDB behind WFG, then everything is different again.
Please don't strech the limit. :)
Should just look forward for Bedok Reservoir Station.
WFG is definite losing to their brothers in term of distance toward MRT station.
I read the Lian He Zao Bao this morning, the paper has all the actual station location.
For reservoir station, its along the canal behind WFK n baywater. Think 2 exits for the station.
I m outside now, see if i can find any pic to upload here tonite.
A lot will also depend on where and how many exits they build. If they decide to 'pull' on close to the HDB behind WFG, then everything is different again.
driving could be faster ?
Not sure if it is faster as there may be traffic jam along the two lanes Bedok Reservior road when WFW, WFG, etc, are ready plus the existing traffic from existig development : Baywater, clearwater, etc.
Agreed. Driving introduces the un-predictability of the road condition. The timing for train is more accurate.
Not sure if it is faster as there may be traffic jam along the two lanes Bedok Reservior road when WFW, WFG, etc, are ready plus the existing traffic from existig development : Baywater, clearwater, etc.
Agreed. Driving introduces the un-predictability of the road condition. The timing for train is more accurate.
Unfortunately it comes fm Tampines. Should be really crowded and difficult to board the train. On the other hand, there will be more cars on the road in this area with the new development.
devilplate
21-08-10, 18:25
Unfortunately it comes fm Tampines. Should be really crowded and difficult to board the train. On the other hand, there will be more cars on the road in this area with the new development.
dtl3 will help to ease the EW congestion....later on got erl somemore...interesting leh...3 lines on the east:D
govt really targeting 6mil population by buidling so many lines?:scared-1:
I think when DTL3 is ready, it will provide options to those living in the east. As there is still the E-W line, the load should be ok. I think the issue that should create the most concern would be the road in front of the Waterfront Collection. I think the best thing to happen in that area is to have the access to PIE via Bedok Ave 3. This allows residence to choose going left or right upon exiting the condo.
Unfortunately it comes fm Tampines. Should be really crowded and difficult to board the train. On the other hand, there will be more cars on the road in this area with the new development.
did you take train from Tampines to City hall before? Not alwayz crowded. at certain period there is empty train from Tanah Merah interchange to City Hall.
Unfortunately it comes fm Tampines. Should be really crowded and difficult to board the train. On the other hand, there will be more cars on the road in this area with the new development.
I think the concern is always for the peak hours. During the non-peak hours, its ok for every public transport.
did you take train from Tampines to City hall before? Not alwayz crowded. at certain period there is empty train from Tanah Merah interchange to City Hall.
Wild Falcon
21-08-10, 19:10
Not complaining but 15-16 stations to Raffles Place may not be good news. After all, even Jurong East is only like 9 stations right? And say Bukit Batok only 10 stations. Just comparing. Standing for 16 stations and still got to interchange can be quite unbearable. 10-12 stations maybe still bearable. And for people who are used to driving, they will not have the patience to wait and stand so long. Imagine having to wait for 3 minutes and then "ding dong ding dong" 15 times. Sure end up still driving to work.
People are certainly hard to please. When no MRT, they complain too much time taking bus. When got MRT, they say too far from the city. I guess you cannot make everyone happy. One thing is clear, those who own a Waterfront collection unit are happy while those who don't are certainly not based on the comments. Well, not too late to get one. :banghead:
Wild Falcon
21-08-10, 19:17
The east is the most heavily populated part of Singapore. Built up area and population easily 3x more than other areas - more than half of SG population squeezed there. I think they deserve 3 lines bah with the super high density. There are more tha 500 condos in D15/16. And Tampines is the most crowded HDB town.
dtl3 will help to ease the EW congestion....later on got erl somemore...interesting leh...3 lines on the east:D
govt really targeting 6mil population by buidling so many lines?:scared-1:
Not complaining but 15-16 stations to Raffles Place may not be good news. After all, even Jurong East is only like 9 stations right? And say Bukit Batok only 10 stations. Just comparing. Standing for 16 stations and still got to interchange can be quite unbearable. 10-12 stations maybe still bearable. And for people who are used to driving, they will not have the patience to wait and stand so long. Imagine having to wait for 3 minutes and then "ding dong ding dong" 15 times. Sure end up still driving to work.
I don't know how DTL3 can go to City Hall but from Simei to Suntec City or Bishan via Paya Lebar interchange is about 30mins during non-peak (because Paya Lebar - Promenade distance is very short).
IMO, government should built LRT from Bedok Reservoir station to Bedok and then to the future ERL at Bedok South to link up the 3 east lines together.
The frequency of MRT at peak hours has improved a lot, now waiting time no more than 2-3mins.
acewee only want to hear the good things, not just for 600-700psf WFW/WFK, also the 1000psf WFG :p
during peak period there is empty train from tanah merah.
SMRT also want to manage cost, duration between train arrival is quite long, even during peak period. SMRT's OPEX is vry high especially after the CCL is in operation.
I think the concern is always for the peak hours. During the non-peak hours, its ok for every public transport.
yes, think there is plan to link up the 3 lines in the future.
I don't know how DTL3 can go to City Hall but from Simei to Suntec City or Bishan via Paya Lebar interchange is about 30mins during non-peak (because Paya Lebar - Promenade distance is very short).
IMO, government should built LRT from Bedok Reservoir station to Bedok and then to the future ERL at Bedok South to link up the 3 east lines together.
The frequent of MRT at peak hours has improved a lot, now waiting time no more than 2-3mins.
devilplate
21-08-10, 19:25
Not complaining but 15-16 stations to Raffles Place may not be good news. After all, even Jurong East is only like 9 stations right? And say Bukit Batok only 10 stations. Just comparing. Standing for 16 stations and still got to interchange can be quite unbearable. 10-12 stations maybe still bearable. And for people who are used to driving, they will not have the patience to wait and stand so long. Imagine having to wait for 3 minutes and then "ding dong ding dong" 15 times. Sure end up still driving to work.
i tink this dtl3 is useful for ppl to goto work at kaki bukit/macpherson/kallang bahru/jalan besar...goto town using EW line still much more faster and direct...different options lor
devilplate
21-08-10, 19:29
yes, think there is plan to link up the 3 lines in the future.
erl cud link up at tampines....
the link will be btw Bedok Reservoir, Bedok and Marin Parade stations
erl cud link up at tampines....
Water Lover
21-08-10, 19:34
What a joke, using photos to gage distance, MRT crowded, mass market.
Distance - about 6 mins brisk walk the most for all waterfront collection. Dont believe go walk yourself. Go and see where is the link bridges.
MRT crowded - with 5 million people tell me where not crowded other than boarding from the first station.
mass market - doesn't matter with 5 to 6 mil people soon everywhere is the same for a small country like sgp. Even those staying near to prime like MBS or RWS can make a mess market by losing 26 mil.
Where in singapore can you find a reservoir and MRT right beside?
Waterfront collection area is going to be Gold Coast of Singapore;)
Dont sell too hastily:D
wow, Water Lover, long time no see! are you still holding ur WFW unit? :D
What a joke, using photos to gage distance, MRT crowded, mass market.
Distance - about 6 mins brisk walk the most for all waterfront collection. Dont believe go walk yourself. Go and see where is the link bridges.
MRT crowded - with 5 million people tell me where not crowded other than boarding from the first station.
mass market - doesn't matter with 5 to 6 mil people soon everywhere is the same for a small country like sgp. Even those staying near to prime like MBS or RWS can make a mess market by losing 26 mil.
Where in singapore can you find a reservoir and MRT right beside?
Waterfront collection area is going to be Gold Coast of Singapore;)
Dont sell too hastily:D
I'm in total agreement. Waterfront Collection is unique with the combination of MRT and reservoir. It is definitely a good investment:)
What a joke, using photos to gage distance, MRT crowded, mass market.
Distance - about 6 mins brisk walk the most for all waterfront collection. Dont believe go walk yourself. Go and see where is the link bridges.
MRT crowded - with 5 million people tell me where not crowded other than boarding from the first station.
mass market - doesn't matter with 5 to 6 mil people soon everywhere is the same for a small country like sgp. Even those staying near to prime like MBS or RWS can make a mess market by losing 26 mil.
Where in singapore can you find a reservoir and MRT right beside?
Waterfront collection area is going to be Gold Coast of Singapore;)
Dont sell too hastily:D
Which waterfront is better? From Estuary or the "Gold Coast of Singapore"?
Welcome back Water Lover!:D
One DTL3 attracted so many -ve comments from 闲杂人仕.
Btw, WFW/WFK/Baywater to Reservoir station is almost the same or even shorter distance than DBR to Simei station.
The Waterfront collection is definitely better in term of view and distance from the MRT station.
Which waterfront is better? From Estuary or the "Gold Coast of Singapore"?
Great! Post some photos here for us to envy.
You may want to refer to some of the photos on Bedok reservior taken by Ken in this forum. I thought they are very well taken.
I visited Estuary when it first launched, the property is not as near to the reservior as The Waterfront Collection :)
Great! Post some photos here for us to envy.
David, u hav any waterfront unit?
You may want to refer to some of the photos on Bedok reservior taken by Ken in this forum. I thought they are very well taken.
I visited Estuary when it first launched, the property is not as near to the reservior as The Waterfront Collection :)
Wild Falcon
21-08-10, 21:43
Not talking about waiting time but 3 minute each station. Imagine it takes 15 stations to reach Raffles Place. This means one has to hear 15 times "ding dong ding dong doors closing doors closing tu tu tu tu" everything 3 minutes for 15 times. One would go crazy - esp drivers. Even 10-12 stations most people will get fidgety already.
My personal investment philosophy is within 10-12 stations from Raffles Place. I don't know why they build so many stations in this DTL3 - very zealous isst? Stopping and braking too frequently with the stupid "doors closing doors closing tu tu tu tu tu" - it would be very painful for those at the tail end e.g. Tampines and Bedok Reservoir and it would definitely lenghten the travel time.
My verdict - too many stations away from town. Don't know why LTA squeeze in so many stations for what. So the announcement is a disappointment - after all everyone knows Bedok Reservoir will have a station - just not sure how many stations to town. now that the news is out, it is negative. Not forgetting it is going to be one year late.
I don't know how DTL3 can go to City Hall but from Simei to Suntec City or Bishan via Paya Lebar interchange is about 30mins during non-peak (because Paya Lebar - Promenade distance is very short).
IMO, government should built LRT from Bedok Reservoir station to Bedok and then to the future ERL at Bedok South to link up the 3 east lines together.
The frequency of MRT at peak hours has improved a lot, now waiting time no more than 2-3mins.
acewee only want to hear the good things, not just for 600-700psf WFW/WFK, also the 1000psf WFG :p
My verdict - too many stations away from town. Don't know why LTA squeeze in so many stations for what. So the announcement is a disappointment - after all everyone knows Bedok Reservoir will have a station - just not sure how many stations to town. now that the news is out, it is negative. Not forgetting it is going to be one year late.
Eventually, MRT stations all across the island... as long as there are people to support the ridership. Cost benefit analaysis right?
Next on the qn on why so many stations... 1 station = increase in property prices for properties within 500 meters to it... or even further away...
It's like adding salad dressing.. spicing it up.... its all the same after it is properly "flipped"
Basically... the value of new housings = fall of your purchasing power and your CPF money... but if u sell... can still balance it up... the pain comes when you buy another... so it is a downgrade route for most.
Exact location of Bedok Reservoir.:cheers6:
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8489/bedokreservoirstation.jpg
Haha. U really think u r a investor?! Come on dun tell us ur rubbish philo n wat 10-12 stations! We hav been following the DTL3 progression since 2 yrs ago. The number of station already announced since 2007. Every waterfront owner knew that! If u really do proper research, u can even know the architect of the stations. Stop barking, 吃粪狗!
http://i37.tinypic.com/i4idde.jpg
Not talking about waiting time but 3 minute each station. Imagine it takes 15 stations to reach Raffles Place. This means one has to hear 15 times "ding dong ding dong doors closing doors closing tu tu tu tu" everything 3 minutes for 15 times. One would go crazy - esp drivers. Even 10-12 stations most people will get fidgety already.
My personal investment philosophy is within 10-12 stations from Raffles Place. I don't know why they build so many stations in this DTL3 - very zealous isst? Stopping and braking too frequently with the stupid "doors closing doors closing tu tu tu tu tu" - it would be very painful for those at the tail end e.g. Tampines and Bedok Reservoir and it would definitely lenghten the travel time.
My verdict - too many stations away from town. Don't know why LTA squeeze in so many stations for what. So the announcement is a disappointment - after all everyone knows Bedok Reservoir will have a station - just not sure how many stations to town. now that the news is out, it is negative. Not forgetting it is going to be one year late.
Jitkiat, I am really seeing a 'Starhub' in your post here, which is unfortunate as I had always thought that you are quite objective from your post in the DBR thread.
Contrary to your comments, I am fully aware that EVERY condos have positives and negatives. However, no one here can deny that having DTL3 with a station in close proximity to Waterfront Collection is a BIG plus. Regretably, many people choose to highlight the negatives. I think its fair comment to say these are mostly those with no vested interest or have missed the boat.
Just like with every location, it is always good to have many alternatives for transport. Some may find taking the MRT attractive and accept the 'dings and dongs' of the puplic announcement system. Others may prefer to drive and 'enjoy' the driving experience. But to have people make comments, mainly negative, about nitty gritties such as walking distance to MRT is really pathetic, especially if they do not even need to be subjected to it coz they DON'T own a unit.
Jitkiat, perhaps you would like to share with us your opinion of the 'walking experience' between DBR to Simei in relation to your view that walking from Waterfront to the potential new reservoir station can be unbearable. Will you ever admit that the distance between the 2 is similar and the experience should be the same, 'hot and sweaty'. I'm sure you won't coz just like me (in your opinion), you will only want to say and hear the positive things of the property that you have a vested interest in right?
So before you make sweeping statements like these, please think again. Give constructive comments in the right forum. Trust me, it will be appreciated. Btw in case you do not know, DTL3 is also linked to Circle Line so getting around from there is similar if not faster than from Simei coz there are 4 stations between Simei and Paya Lebar interchange while there are only 3 between Reservoir and Macpherson interchange. But who's counting.
I don't know how DTL3 can go to City Hall but from Simei to Suntec City or Bishan via Paya Lebar interchange is about 30mins during non-peak (because Paya Lebar - Promenade distance is very short).
IMO, government should built LRT from Bedok Reservoir station to Bedok and then to the future ERL at Bedok South to link up the 3 east lines together.
The frequency of MRT at peak hours has improved a lot, now waiting time no more than 2-3mins.
acewee only want to hear the good things, not just for 600-700psf WFW/WFK, also the 1000psf WFG :p
Bingo! The 2 exits really at both sides of the road beside the bus stop.
Exact location of Bedok Reservoir.:cheers6:
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No wonder price of properties around my area has been increasing because it started with E-W line, follow by the N-E line and recently the circle line.
Eventually, MRT stations all across the island... as long as there are people to support the ridership. Cost benefit analaysis right?
Next on the qn on why so many stations... 1 station = increase in property prices for properties within 500 meters to it... or even further away...
It's like adding salad dressing.. spicing it up.... its all the same after it is properly "flipped"
Basically... the value of new housings = fall of your purchasing power and your CPF money... but if u sell... can still balance it up... the pain comes when you buy another... so it is a downgrade route for most.
Property prices will spike for homes along Downtown Line: observers
By Seet Sok Hwee and Imelda Saad | Posted: 21 August 2010 2054 hrs (http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1076396/1/.html)
SINGAPORE : A day after more details of the Downtown Line were announced, observers are already predicting a hike in property prices in those areas.
Residents of Tampines and Bedok can expect five more stations serving their estates. And Jalan Besar will see a new station as well.
Homes around the Downtown Line linking Singapore Expo in the east to Bukit Panjang in the north-west are likely to see property prices shoot up.
Like many other train stations around Singapore, amenities like malls and shops will soon sprout around the area, serving residents and commuters.
One property expert estimates that HDB flat prices may rise between 5 and 15 per cent over the next seven years, while private condominiums could command a premium of about 10 to 20 per cent.
"Based on past experience, we foresee that the rise may break into two different phases - one is immediately after the announcement which may happen these few days; the other one could be just before the completion of the MRT station," said Steven Tan, executive director of OrangeTee.
Cash-over-Valuation (COV) for HDB flats could also go up.
"For example, if the average COV is about $30,000 to $40,000, after the announcement, the COV may go up to $50,000 to $60,000 (for the HDB flat around the vicinity)," said Tan.
Existing stores are also looking forward to the new lines.
But they too worry about a spike in rentals.
"(There'll) be more competition because (there'll be) a bigger crowd, so business will be boom," said one retailer at Tampines Central near Tampines MRT.
When completed, the Downtown Line will facilitate direct travel from the northwest and east of Singapore to the Central Business District (CBD) and Marina Bay.
The line is projected to see a daily ridership of more than half a million people when fully operational by 2017. - CNA /ls
As this is a WFW thread, I assume we should start counting from Reservoir Station? I believe its 9 or 10 stations only to city centre. And if you do use MRT as a transport option, you would accept all the 'Dings and Dongs' that come with it would you? Just like if you drive, you accept that you may be stuck in jam or involved in car crash right? To each his own I suppose. Not everyone is privilege like you to own a car so have to make do with public transport. Let's be objective and realistic can we?
Not complaining but 15-16 stations to Raffles Place may not be good news. After all, even Jurong East is only like 9 stations right? And say Bukit Batok only 10 stations. Just comparing. Standing for 16 stations and still got to interchange can be quite unbearable. 10-12 stations maybe still bearable. And for people who are used to driving, they will not have the patience to wait and stand so long. Imagine having to wait for 3 minutes and then "ding dong ding dong" 15 times. Sure end up still driving to work.
Wild Falcon
21-08-10, 23:01
How can it be? Have you seen the stations? I don't even how many stations to Orchard! Where are the interchanges? Maybe you can enlighten me how to take 10 stations to say Orchard Road or Raffles Place. Sorry, this line is a disaster with poor connectivity. And I'm not being biased. You may want to check some transportation forums for their views. If I were you, I will start talking to my MP for improving the connectivity of this DTL3 instead of saying how wonderful it is. Maybe you're the one who is biased and think the stations are well located with good connectivity.
Hi Noblebaby, choonyongfoo here:)
David, u hav any waterfront unit?
Oicic, hehe!
The best part of WFW is not the DTL station, but the grp of friendly neighbour. Cheers!
Hi Noblebaby, choonyongfoo here:)
Well, good thing I'm not you and hopefully there arn't many more like you or Singapore will always be a bad place to live in coz nothing will please people like you. Epitomy of a typical Singaporean, complain, complain, complain.
:doh:
How can it be? Have you seen the stations? I don't even how many stations to Orchard! Where are the interchanges? Maybe you can enlighten me how to take 10 stations to say Orchard Road or Raffles Place. Sorry, this line is a disaster with poor connectivity. And I'm not being biased. You may want to check some transportation forums for their views. If I were you, I will start talking to my MP for improving the connectivity of this DTL3 instead of saying how wonderful it is. Maybe you're the one who is biased and think the stations are well located with good connectivity.
Agreed. Cheers. :cheers5:
Oicic, hehe!
The best part of WFW is not the DTL station, but the grp of friendly neighbour. Cheers!
Wild Falcon
22-08-10, 00:10
Worst still are people like you who thinks everything is perfect and never thrive to be better. Or do not process information and not even realise there is no interchanges in DTL3 in the city. Look at the map again. You probably have to alight at River Valley and start taking buses to Orchard?
I always believe it's important to always improve. It's not about complaining. It's about the ability to analyse and believe things can be better from the staus quo. And not take everything as perfection. We should thrive to better and believe we can make things better. How old are you? DTL3 is very flawed - there is no linkage to NS line which leads you to the most important places. If you still have not figured out, I feel sorry for you.
You are the epitome of Singaporean. Don't dare to speak up. Always believe the everything the government do is right - including an MRT line that has no interchanges in the city.
Good thing that not everyone is like you. We can make things better. DTL3 can be better if you bother to feedback to the authorities.
Well, good thing I'm not you and hopefully there arn't many more like you or Singapore will always be a bad place to live in coz nothing will please people like you. Epitomy of a typical Singaporean, complain, complain, complain.
:doh:
Have fun! :D
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May i ask what have you done or will be doing to highlight to the authorities to improve this project since you feel its the right thing to do?
Worst still are people like you who thinks everything is perfect and never thrive to be better. Or do not process information and not even realise there is no interchanges in DTL3 in the city. Look at the map again. You probably have to alight at River Valley and start taking buses to Orchard?
I always believe it's important to always improve. It's not about complaining. It's about the ability to analyse and believe things can be better from the staus quo. And not take everything as perfection. We should thrive to better and believe we can make things better. How old are you? DTL3 is very flawed - there is no linkage to NS line which leads you to the most important places. If you still have not figured out, I feel sorry for you.
You are the epitome of Singaporean. Don't dare to speak up. Always believe the everything the government do is right - including an MRT line that has no interchanges in the city.
Good thing that not everyone is like you. We can make things better. DTL3 can be better if you bother to feedback to the authorities.
devilplate
22-08-10, 00:29
i tink the main purpose of dtl3 is to serve the industrial areas and changi biz park/expo....it connects to the ccl via macpherson...not bad mah...wana go orchard or citihall, take the current EW line lor...various railway lines is to complement each other rite?
for example, now ppl goto take feeder buses at paya lebar to reach work places like macpherson/tai seng....in future, so much more convenient:D
to me, dtl3 is quite useful....erl quite redundant in fact..hehe
not bad for me, just 2 stops to Tampines. high end product at Orchard can't afford la. :banghead: :D
i tink the main purpose of dtl3 is to serve the industrial areas and changi biz park/expo....it connects to the ccl via macpherson...not bad mah...wana go orchard or citihall, take the current EW line lor...various railway lines is to complement each other rite?
for example, now ppl goto take feeder buses at paya lebar to reach work places like macpherson/tai seng....in future, so much more convenient:D
to me, dtl3 is quite useful....erl quite redundant in fact..hehe
Precisely. But not everyone sees the positives in things. But what do i know. I dun have a 'bird's eye view' of everything, pun intended.
i tink the main purpose of dtl3 is to serve the industrial areas and changi biz park/expo....it connects to the ccl via macpherson...not bad mah...wana go orchard or citihall, take the current EW line lor...various railway lines is to complement each other rite?
for example, now ppl goto take feeder buses at paya lebar to reach work places like macpherson/tai seng....in future, so much more convenient:D
to me, dtl3 is quite useful....erl quite redundant in fact..hehe
Area impacted by sewer diversion
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Confirmed DTL3 Station
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Soil investigation work for DTL3 station, seems like the tester was captured by the satellite. We had so much fun guessing the location, ahaha :D :D
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devilplate
22-08-10, 01:14
i did a count...from bedok reservoir...it takes 12 stops to hit telok ayer mrt which is in between raffles plc stn and tanjong pagar stn....very strategic location:cheers6:
from hillview, it takes 12 stops to hit bayfront stn:cheers6:
hahaha. I've already given up on this discussion. Dtl3 for me simply mean having a direct connectivity in the bedok reservoir area to the singapore mrt network.
i did a count...from bedok reservoir...it takes 12 stops to hit telok ayer mrt which is in between raffles plc stn and tanjong pagar stn....very strategic location:cheers6:
from hillview, it takes 12 stops to hit downtown stn:cheers6:
devilplate
22-08-10, 01:37
hahaha. I've already given up on this discussion. Dtl3 for me simply mean having a direct connectivity in the bedok reservoir area to the singapore mrt network.
hehe...now exploring the whole mrt system...:D
just realised places like farrer road stn takes 8 stops to hit tanjong pagar or raffles plc stn...quite a number of stops:rolleyes:
Everyone has different needs. Have MRT stn better than w/o one. One more option other than driving (if one has a car). With the increase in population, there will be more cars and people in Singapore whether one like it or not. The only catch now is that someone somehow will have to pay for all these infrastructure development, either through fees from ERP, MRT, GST, Tax, etc...
Well done!:cheers6:
Have fun! :D
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/851/dtls.jpg
Have fun! :D
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Is it drawn to scale?
Nope just a rough estimation, the distance from WFW to the end of the park is obtained from onemap.sg
Is it drawn to scale?
Congratulations to all Waterfront buyers! Walking distance to future Bedok Reservoir station. :cheers6:
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Is this photo taken on the overhead bridge above the PIE?
The view is from the top floor of HDB Blk524 across the PIE.
Is this photo taken on the overhead bridge above the PIE?
Nice view! But not much progress for WFW from outside. :sleep:
Congratulations to all Waterfront buyers! Walking distance to future Bedok Reservoir station. :cheers6:
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/3774/waterfrontcollections.jpg
Hi DC33_2008, do you have vested interest in any of the Waterfront Collection?
Is this photo taken on the overhead bridge above the PIE?
Have relatives who bought units there more than a year ago. Good for them. Anyone know if LTA is going to widen Bedok Reservoir road?
In the short term I doubt. There are already some minor alignments done to accommodate the Waterfront Collection. To widen they will need to 'eat into' the reservoir side of the road. Will be a challenging project if they do it.
Have relatives who bought units there more than a year ago. Good for them. Anyone know if LTA is going to widen Bedok Reservoir road?
Cant image the price for those unsold lands ard reservoir... Nxt one to wait for is the development n transformation of the reservoir into waterfront chic dinning spot.:D
Have relatives who bought units there more than a year ago. Good for them. Anyone know if LTA is going to widen Bedok Reservoir road?
In the short term I doubt. There are already some minor alignments done to accommodate the Waterfront Collection. To widen they will need to 'eat into' the reservoir side of the road. Will be a challenging project if they do it.
They have to review this given the increased traffic volume before the new MRT stn which can ease a little 7 years later. This was one of the key reasons that I did not invest a unit here. It is not too difficult to one more lanes on each side of the road. The reservoir is set back by quite a bit from the existing road.
At the moment, the traffic condition along bedok reservoir road is quite ok during morning peak hour if compared to bedok north ave 3. Bedok north ave 3 is super jam in the morning. Too many traffic light junctions.
Mayb ken can help comment on traffic condition there...
In the short term I doubt. There are already some minor alignments done to accommodate the Waterfront Collection. To widen they will need to 'eat into' the reservoir side of the road. Will be a challenging project if they do it.
Is the bottle-neck near the exit to PIE?
Small part of it... There are also schools opposite... And many cars n buses r actually heading to Tampines as well as entering TPE via Tampines ave 10.
If afraid of jam, just leave the house 5-10mins earlier. Not a big deal.
Is the bottle-neck near the exit to PIE?
I think it is indeed worth a review to expand the road since the load will be high once all 4 developments are completed, regardless of MRT. Maybe this could be done in conjunction with the plan to revamp the Reservoir area. I read in the papers today that George is asking for feedback through his FB right?
More lanes is good... But lta need to solve the bottkeneck created at the intersection btw bedok reservoir road n bedok north ave 3.
There is a bus stop located vry close to this traffic junction. Most of d time there will be 2-3 busses queing to tak n unload pessangers until some vehicles r actually stucked behind the buses, at the middle of the intersection.
I pass by this intersection every morning so im vry clear abt d condition.
I think it is indeed worth a review to expand the road since the load will be high once all 4 developments are completed, regardless of MRT. Maybe this could be done in conjunction with the plan to revamp the Reservoir area. I read in the papers today that George is asking for feedback through his FB right?
Wild Falcon
22-08-10, 15:08
Can always write in :) If make enough noise on the internet, the authorities will take the feedback. I believe the connectivity of this line is heavily flawed. Either LTA start linking underground walkways between the stations that are closeby to existing NS or EW line - so it's not that hot to walk to change trains across different lines. Or else, I suspect it will take forever to get to Orchard or even Raffles Place. After all, 10 stations only get to Jalan Besar and then no connectivity how?
Anyway, I think most will end up driving. Looking at the no. of stations to hit Raffles Place or even Orchard, I suspect it will be underutlilised. Most can only tahan 10-12 stations. [/quote]
People staying in this area should collectively write in to LTS or voice out to your MP via the Meet-the-people session. It may help.
More lanes is good... But lta need to solve the bottkeneck created at the intersection btw bedok reservoir road n bedok north ave 3.
There is a bus stop located vry close to this traffic junction. Most of d time there will be 2-3 busses queing to tak n unload pessangers until some vehicles r actually stucked behind the buses, at the middle of the intersection.
I pass by this intersection every morning so im vry clear abt d condition.
So your idea and believe of standing up to what is wrong is to write in forums. I'm disappointed my fren. After all your talk on speaking up and doing what is right, your best is to make noise on forums. I thought you have done or will be doing something officially to highlight to the authorities to improve flawed projects since you feel its the right thing to do?
Can always write in :) If make enough noise on the internet, the authorities will take the feedback. I believe the connectivity of this line is heavily flawed. Either LTA start linking underground walkways between the stations that are closeby to existing NS or EW line - so it's not that hot to walk to change trains across different lines. Or else, I suspect it will take forever to get to Orchard or even Raffles Place. After all, 10 stations only get to Jalan Besar and then no connectivity how?
Anyway, I think most will end up driving. Looking at the no. of stations to hit Raffles Place or even Orchard, I suspect it will be underutlilised. Most can only tahan 10-12 stations. [/quote]
Expo
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Upper Changi
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Tampines East
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Tampines
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Tampines West
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Bedok Reservoir
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Bedok Town Park
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Kakit Bukit
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Ubi
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MacPherson
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Mattar
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Kallang Bahru
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Jalan Besar
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Sungei Road
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Bencoolen
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River Valley
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Hi,
Thanks for posting the pictures. Can share where did you get this information? Would love to read the write up
This is taken from yesterday issue of LianHe ZaoBao. The title of the report is property price beside DTL3 stations will gradually increase by 5-15% in the coming 7 yrs. :D
Hi,
Thanks for posting the pictures. Can share where did you get this information?
Would love to read the write up
Hi,
Thanks.. I suppose both you and Ken has a unit at waterfront collection yah.. Congrats man
Hey devilplate, do you notice that the proximity between Bencoolen (DTL) and Bras Besah (Circle Line) makes it a possibility for another link?
hehe...now exploring the whole mrt system...:D
just realised places like farrer road stn takes 8 stops to hit tanjong pagar or raffles plc stn...quite a number of stops:rolleyes:
The Waterfront collection is definitely better in term of view and distance from the MRT station.
View I'm not so sure. Distance to mrt yes waterfront wins. "Community" dense but waterfront wins. Living surrounding perhaps estuary but depends on what u want. Leisure, serene, family estuary wins. Price obvious waterfront wins! :D
devilplate
22-08-10, 19:50
Hey devilplate, do you notice that the proximity between Bencoolen (DTL) and Bras Besah (Circle Line) makes it a possibility for another link?
yes possible for an underground link...actually dtl3 wud be perfect if it connects to dhoby ghuat stn or bras basah stn instead of creating another redundant bencoolen stn...i guess due to construction constraints:beats-me-man:
thanks. we have. if i m not wrong, u hav unit at The Tropica, right?
Hi,
Thanks.. I suppose both you and Ken has a unit at waterfront collection yah.. Congrats man
Layout wise, WFW wins by several kilometers. :D
u owner of Estuary? nice place la!
View I'm not so sure. Distance to mrt yes waterfront wins. "Community" dense but waterfront wins. Living surrounding perhaps estuary but depends on what u want. Leisure, serene, family estuary wins. Price obvious waterfront wins! :D
i m sure the MRT alignment is designed by a group of genius & expert, wat we know they knew better than us. i agreed, most likely due to technical difficulties.
There maybe smaller version of "circle line" introduced in the future to connect up all the lines. Gov also wants to manage cost mah, supply & demand. :D
yes possible for an underground link...actually dtl3 wud be perfect if it connects to dhoby ghuat stn or bras basah stn instead of creating another redundant bencoolen stn...i guess due to construction constraints:beats-me-man:
Wild Falcon
22-08-10, 20:13
Did you not read about the "writing in" part? Anyway, I think I counted wrongly. Bedok Reservoir probably needs to take 2 stations further east to Tampines interchange and then change to EW line to go Raffles Place. So should be 14 stations + 2 waiting time. My bad - I said 15 stations but 14 stations is still not ideal. My conclusion is that it's not meant to be radial line like DTL2 - that's why no interchanges near the city. It's more like circle-line "feeder MRT" service, i.e. take your feeder MRT to Tampines or Macpherson to interchange.
DTL2 is much better - interchanges at Botanic Gardens (CCL), Newton (NS) and Little India (NE), Bugis (EW). Doesn't make you move "backwards" to interchange and waste precious time.
Anyway, I still haven't figured out how to get to Orchard Road from here. - probably take close to 17 stations just to reach shopping district. Unless you do major transfers and walking from stations to stations.
This DTL just end at River Valley like that? Super weird man!
So your idea and believe of standing up to what is wrong is to write in forums. I'm disappointed my fren. After all your talk on speaking up and doing what is right, your best is to make noise on forums. I thought you have done or will be doing something officially to highlight to the authorities to improve flawed projects since you feel its the right thing to do?
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Wild Falcon
22-08-10, 21:03
Even if there is a link, it is high likely to be a paid link. The names of the stations are different - which means tap your card again to get in.
yes possible for an underground link...actually dtl3 wud be perfect if it connects to dhoby ghuat stn or bras basah stn instead of creating another redundant bencoolen stn...i guess due to construction constraints:beats-me-man:
devilplate
22-08-10, 22:02
Even if there is a link, it is high likely to be a paid link. The names of the stations are different - which means tap your card again to get in.
this is whr the distance based system comes in:D
devilplate
22-08-10, 22:08
This DTL just end at River Valley like that? Super weird man!
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i mentioned earlier dtl3 take 12 stn from bedok reservoir to hit telok ayer stn which is in between raffles plc and tanjong pagar...it goes this way: RV-->chinatown-->telok ayer stn-->connects to dtl2
the only problem of dtl3: cannot connect to NS line at the central....
whole list of downtown1,2,3 stations can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_MRT_Line
devilplate
22-08-10, 22:13
dtl2: from hillview to bayfront stn takes 12 stops
y just based on orchard as the reference point? :beats-me-man:
devilplate
22-08-10, 22:28
Layout wise, WFW wins by several kilometers. :D
u owner of Estuary? nice place la!
yes i agree....more usable livable space and bedrooms definitely bigger:cheers6:
but, dun have to pay a premium to have reservoir view for estuary lor....tats the plus point :D
If you would like to go to Raffles Station from Reservoir Station, may i suggest you take DTL3 to Macpherson, change to Paya Lebar, then E-W to Raffles Place Station....11 Stations plus some waiting time. Then again, even with this route you'll probably say its too troublesome bcoz need to change. No win situation I suppose.
Did you not read about the "writing in" part? Anyway, I think I counted wrongly. Bedok Reservoir probably needs to take 2 stations further east to Tampines interchange and then change to EW line to go Raffles Place. So should be 14 stations + 2 waiting time. My bad - I said 15 stations but 14 stations is still not ideal. My conclusion is that it's not meant to be radial line like DTL2 - that's why no interchanges near the city. It's more like circle-line "feeder MRT" service, i.e. take your feeder MRT to Tampines or Macpherson to interchange.
DTL2 is much better - interchanges at Botanic Gardens (CCL), Newton (NS) and Little India (NE), Bugis (EW). Doesn't make you move "backwards" to interchange and waste precious time.
Anyway, I still haven't figured out how to get to Orchard Road from here. - probably take close to 17 stations just to reach shopping district. Unless you do major transfers and walking from stations to stations.
This DTL just end at River Valley like that? Super weird man!
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yes i agree....more usable livable space and bedrooms definitely bigger:cheers6:
but, dun have to pay a premium to have reservoir view for estuary lor....tats the plus point :D
I'm quite skeptical (always been) about FEO though. Agent told me it's elevated. The model also show high ground and a long staircase. Now on actual ground seems to be just half a flight of stairs or lesser. Floor plan of bedrooms looks elongated. Good. Yet to see if really spacious with quite a number of bay windows. I don't like having a/c ledge at side of bedroom bay window and sofa has no "mountain" backing though. But one thing I particularly like is no need large quantum can get high floor due to smaller area, say for 3 bedroom. I'm a potential buyer at waterfront wave!:D
Water Lover
22-08-10, 22:53
How can it be? Have you seen the stations? I don't even how many stations to Orchard! Where are the interchanges? Maybe you can enlighten me how to take 10 stations to say Orchard Road or Raffles Place. Sorry, this line is a disaster with poor connectivity. And I'm not being biased. You may want to check some transportation forums for their views. If I were you, I will start talking to my MP for improving the connectivity of this DTL3 instead of saying how wonderful it is. Maybe you're the one who is biased and think the stations are well located with good connectivity.
Yes, I am going to see MP but not to complain but to thank him/her coz
i could hardly remember how many times i go to raffles place or orchard this year. But to tampines mall & changi airport (yakun)and expo, i think is countless. ;) ;) Wait till i sell WFW at $3000psf or maybe reach the "status" where MRT stopping noise become so irritating, i will get ION right ontop of orchard mrt. Saya still a commoner only know how to waste time watching the blue horizon view at Bdk reservoir. Dont really know how to enjoy orchard:D :D Lastly - think hard- govt will not build so many MRT for fun. They dont just plan for one person or 1 year.:spliff:
Wishing all a nice week ahead:o
devilplate
22-08-10, 22:53
I'm quite skeptical (always been) about FEO though. Agent told me it's elevated. The model also show high ground and a long staircase. Now on actual ground seems to be just half a flight of stairs or lesser. Floor plan of bedrooms looks elongated. Good. Yet to see if really spacious with quite a number of bay windows. I don't like having a/c ledge at side of bedroom bay window and sofa has no "mountain" backing though. But one thing I particularly like is no need large quantum can get high floor due to smaller area, say for 3 bedroom. I'm a potential buyer at waterfront wave!:D
the main problem with waterfront collection is tat buyers goto pay a premium for reservoir view which i tink is the main selling point....
btw, i am quite happy with FEO projects so far other den the disgusting price in general:D
which FEO projects u guys got problem with ar? projects like sterling, icon, lakeshore quite ok leh:D
FEO projects dun have disgusting planter boxes and oversized a/c ledge:D
Wild Falcon
22-08-10, 23:15
$3000 PSF? Happy waiting. Anyway, if you happy lah. You don't work in town right? I'm referring to those who work in the city center, e.g. those in the financial or investment industry - they would have to make the trip down every day. I have no clue why people like the overcrowded Tampines Mall so much - so that's your fave hangout? To each his own lah.
Just voicing my views that the DTL3 line is not optimal. Don't be so sensitive lah. Anyway, continue to saka and kiss your MP ass - I'm sure can hit $3000PSF.
Yes, I am going to see MP but not to complain but to thank him/her coz
i could hardly remember how many times i go to raffles place or orchard this year. But to tampines mall & changi airport (yakun)and expo, i think is countless. ;) ;) Wait till i sell WFW at $3000psf or maybe reach the "status" where MRT stopping noise become so irritating, i will get ION right ontop of orchard mrt. Saya still a commoner only know how to waste time watching the blue horizon view at Bdk reservoir. Dont really know how to enjoy orchard:D :D Lastly - think hard- govt will not build so many MRT for fun. They dont just plan for one person or 1 year.:spliff:
Wishing all a nice week ahead:o
Yalor wat so special abt Orchard?! Oh yah, Orchard is for high end ppl, high end ppl drive n dun tak mrt n also dun like to listen to the tuk tuk tuk sound. Thats why no interchange is needed there lor. Haha!
Yes, I am going to see MP but not to complain but to thank him/her coz
i could hardly remember how many times i go to raffles place or orchard this year. But to tampines mall & changi airport (yakun)and expo, i think is countless. ;) ;) Wait till i sell WFW at $3000psf or maybe reach the "status" where MRT stopping noise become so irritating, i will get ION right ontop of orchard mrt. Saya still a commoner only know how to waste time watching the blue horizon view at Bdk reservoir. Dont really know how to enjoy orchard:D :D Lastly - think hard- govt will not build so many MRT for fun. They dont just plan for one person or 1 year.:spliff:
Wishing all a nice week ahead:o
Wild Falcon
22-08-10, 23:27
An MRT line that leads nowhere or is highly inefficient is USELESS. It just highlights how FAR this place is from the city where the most highly paid people/ or "FTs" worked. It may affect your rental yields in the future. But for own stay like yourself whose fave "cool" hangout is Tampines Mall which is 2 stations away then it doesn't matter. But from an investment perspective, I will think twice. So speaking from a perspective from an investor, I have to see how far and how long it takes to reach the city. If 99LH and takes God knows how many exchanges to reach main financial and shopping district, then its attractiveness as an investment dimishes. After all, there're lots of 99LH within 12 stations to the city. That is a relevant consideration. I don't see how people can become so defensive.
And again, purely from an investment perspective.
Yalor wat so special abt Orchard?! Oh yah, Orchard is for high end ppl, high end ppl drive n dun tak mrt n also dun like to listen to the tuk tuk tuk sound. Thats why no interchange is needed there lor. Haha!
Hey bird, walk your talk, dun just talk cock. You still trying to avoid my question to your claim. May i ask what have you done or will be doing to highlight to the authorities to improve this project since you feel its the right thing to do? If you have nothing to say to that, then dun make yourself look great. If i need to hear from an asshole i will just need to fart.
An MRT line that leads nowhere or is highly inefficient is USELESS. It just highlights how FAR this place is from the city where the most highly paid people/ or "FTs" worked. It may affect your rental yields in the future. But for own stay like yourself whose fave "cool" hangout is Tampines Mall which is 2 stations away then it doesn't matter. But from an investment perspective, I will think twice. So speaking from a perspective from an investor, I have to see how far and how long it takes to reach the city. If 99LH and takes God knows how many exchanges to reach main financial and shopping district, then its attractiveness as an investment dimishes. After all, there're lots of 99LH within 12 stations to the city. That is a relevant consideration. I don't see how people can become so defensive.
And again, purely from an investment perspective.
devilplate
22-08-10, 23:47
dtl3 announcement suppose to be a happy news!!!:cheers1:
i am sure this line benefits lots of easty ppl! dun have to worry about parking problems at tamp central anymore! simply take a short train ride:cheers6:
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