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princess_morbucks
31-10-13, 20:49
http://www.tnp.sg/content/four-hour-ride-terror-johor-baru

By : Ng Jun Sen (http://www.tnp.sg/users/ng-jun-sen)


The Singaporean couple were refuelling their car near the Plaza Pelangi shopping mall in Johor Baru for the trip home at about 11.15pm on Saturday.
But the Lims were suddenly approached by two men in their 30s, one of whom had a knife. They said Mr Lim owed them RM65,000 (S$25,600) and recognised him through his vehicle’s licence plate number.
The couple had travelled to Johor Baru more than 40 times in the past two years and had never encountered anyone making such a claim.
Fearing for their safety, Mr Lim sped off towards the immigration checkpoint. The two men caught up with the couple in their white lorry.
Then followed four nerve-racking hours driving around the city from one ATM to another to draw money to pay the men.
The two men took off with RM6,000 and the couple's mobile phones.
Read the full report in The New Paper on Thursday (Oct 31).

star
31-10-13, 21:19
They all will wait outside iskandar now. They know Singaporeans are rich.

hyenergix
31-10-13, 21:29
If u encounter these robbers on bikes, just run them down w ur car or truck n cripple them.

Simi
31-10-13, 21:35
If u encounter these robbers on bikes, just run them down w ur car or truck n cripple them.


Yes, I always conditioned myself to do that once over there

best is to drive a heavy continental car

indomie
31-10-13, 21:38
If u encounter these robbers on bikes, just run them down w ur car or truck n cripple them.
No... Very dangerous. Just let them have the money and leave.

Simi
31-10-13, 21:42
No... Very dangerous. Just let them have the money and leave.


Been robbed once many years ago over at Taman Daya
they were carrying parangs

L L let them take whatever :(:(

if happen again and if got the chance...will run them down with my tanker car :)

radha08
31-10-13, 21:46
welcome to malaysia

princess_morbucks
31-10-13, 21:55
I used to go to JB when I was in Uni.
During the weekends, a group of us will take turns to drive down there.
It was different last time.
I felt safe at that time.

Nowadays I don't even feel safe when I go to KL.
I only go to Malaysia when it is extremely necessary, ie to attend to family matters.

It is such a pity.
It is a beautiful country with delicious food.

onglai
31-10-13, 22:03
I used to go to JB when I was in Uni.
During the weekends, a group of us will take turns to drive down there.
It was different last time.
I felt safe at that time.

Nowadays I don't even feel safe when I go to KL.
I only go to Malaysia when it is extremely necessary, ie to attend to family matters.

It is such a pity.
It is a beautiful country with delicious food.

They can differentiate rich taitai from poor uni students ma.
Hehe

indomie
31-10-13, 22:09
Been robbed once many years ago over at Taman Daya
they were carrying parangs

L L let them take whatever :(:(

if happen again and if got the chance...will run them down with my tanker car :)
After u successfully run them over... Then what? U probably will get into expensive legal problem. The robbers will play innocent motorists. It will take more time and money to settle the problem. U can't win.

hyenergix
31-10-13, 22:16
After u successfully run them over... Then what? U probably will get into expensive legal problem. The robbers will play innocent motorists. It will take more time and money to settle the problem. U can't win.

Run them down! Dun let them know u r fearful of them.

indomie
31-10-13, 22:26
Run them down! Dun let them know u r fearful of them.
Is that your army training finally paying off?

wt_know
31-10-13, 22:31
RM6,000 is sup sup water ... just let it go
not worth it to risk your life with the robbers
you have no idea what they is up to after sniffing glue and desperate for money for their meal (drug)

indomie
31-10-13, 22:33
RM6,000 is sup sup water ... just let it go
not worth it to risk your life with the robbers
you have no idea what they is up to after sniffing glue and desperate for money for their meal (drug)
Finally. Somebody on my side.

princess_morbucks
31-10-13, 22:41
They can differentiate rich taitai from poor uni students ma.
Hehe

Erm...my fren from KL said that they also target students.
But they are kinder to students.
Eg if you have only $10, they will take $9 so that you will have $1 to take bus home.

onglai
31-10-13, 22:51
RM6,000 is sup sup water ... just let it go
not worth it to risk your life with the robbers
you have no idea what they is up to after sniffing glue and desperate for money for their meal (drug)

Lose money I not scared. I scared they are crazy n harm my family member. These pple lcan be very ruthless.

onglai
31-10-13, 22:56
Erm...my fren from KL said that they also target students.
But they are kinder to students.
Eg if you have only $10, they will take $9 so that you will have $1 to take bus home.

Actually I oso kena extort money b4 by some small time gangster in jb years ago (the period where many sg go there buy Vcd)

No choice . Just give them everything in wallet. Luckily got friends there. It was an unforgettable experience man.

teddybear
31-10-13, 23:50
You can also act as innocent driver who met an accident only. It is just their words against your words, and why would a tourist in their country want to run down somebody they don't even know for no reason???.. :scared-2:


After u successfully run them over... Then what? U probably will get into expensive legal problem. The robbers will play innocent motorists. It will take more time and money to settle the problem. U can't win.

DayDreamer
01-11-13, 00:03
That was exactly why my parents packed up and left JB for SG. This happens to locals too.

But it is easier to target Singaporean.

And it is hard for Singaporean to blend in because of the accent.

Do not fight back. Its not worth it.

If you get involve with the locals, next to deal with is the police. That's a whole different story.

It's either you are lucky or unlucky. But 1 time is enough to make it a bad experience.

minority
01-11-13, 05:43
That why the people going to JB will have a reality check. all this BS abt moving to JB is Cheap. its Cheap for a reason.

hyenergix
01-11-13, 06:56
Is that your army training finally paying off?

The more you are easily terrorised, the more they will want to terrorise you. It will show up in your composure that you are an easy target. If you are easily terrorised and afraid of the thieves there, don't go overseas or only travel in big tour groups. Or else stay in Singapore is the safest option. That's all I have to say about this.

RSG
01-11-13, 08:26
The more you are easily terrorised, the more they will want to terrorise you. It will show up in your composure that you are an easy target. If you are easily terrorised and afraid of the thieves there, don't go overseas or only travel in big tour groups. Or else stay in Singapore is the safest option. That's all I have to say about this.


Thanks to our Government for making sure that they dont come here and terrorise us.

Shanhz
01-11-13, 08:39
Actually I oso kena extort money b4 by some small time gangster in jb years ago (the period where many sg go there buy Vcd)

No choice . Just give them everything in wallet. Luckily got friends there. It was an unforgettable experience man.

same here leh. are you my friend? :eek:

indomie
01-11-13, 09:07
The more you are easily terrorised, the more they will want to terrorise you. It will show up in your composure that you are an easy target. If you are easily terrorised and afraid of the thieves there, don't go overseas or only travel in big tour groups. Or else stay in Singapore is the safest option. That's all I have to say about this.
Let's say u can successfully run then over and get away with it. The robbers are not that dumb. They will use different and probably more violent tactics. They will disable the vehicle first before they rob you. I live in a country where if my car get hit by other vehicle, I wouldn't bother to go down and check. I just drive off and let the insurance handle it. To a certain degree it changes the robbers behaviour, knowing that the driver doesn't care if the car is damaged. So. We have less chance to be victimised. So better just drive off, if not possible just give money. If you play rambo, they next victims could be worse off by the changing tactic of the robbers.

If you want to live in kampong, behave like a kampong folks. Get socialised with the Johor people along your usual travelling route. You cannot behave like typical Singaporeans, who doesn't know your next door neighbour. Learn malay, get to know the shopkeepers, or that durian sellers along the road. In case of emergency, they will assist you. Invest in people first, then you invest in their property. Don't behave like ang mo

DMCK
01-11-13, 10:12
JB robbers know we all singaporeans kiasi, threaten a bit, put out knife, we gives everything even underwear, that why more & more cases happening now

wt_know
01-11-13, 10:12
rules of thumb shopping in jb

1. no yayapapaya handbag

2. no yayapapaya watch

3. dress down with normal t-shirt with jean/short/bermuda

4. don't yayapapaya shout cheap cheap sibei cheap and how much they would paid in singapore

princess_morbucks
01-11-13, 10:34
.................

If you want to live in kampong, behave like a kampong folks. Get socialised with the Johor people along your usual travelling route. You cannot behave like typical Singaporeans, who doesn't know your next door neighbour. Learn malay, get to know the shopkeepers, or that durian sellers along the road. In case of emergency, they will assist you. Invest in people first, then you invest in their property. Don't behave like ang mo

Wise words!
Be on good terms with neighbours and those around your neighbourhood.
Bring them cake and goodies and chit chat with them in their lingo.
They will keep a lookout for you once you become their kawan.

sgbuyer
01-11-13, 10:42
That was exactly why my parents packed up and left JB for SG. This happens to locals too.

But it is easier to target Singaporean.

And it is hard for Singaporean to blend in because of the accent.

Do not fight back. Its not worth it.

If you get involve with the locals, next to deal with is the police. That's a whole different story.

It's either you are lucky or unlucky. But 1 time is enough to make it a bad experience.


Chinese in malaysia 100% lose out.

lifeline
01-11-13, 11:02
actually i shared this before... asked my jb colleague why sometimes there is violence even when victims comply with robbers' demand. she said the robbers are able to differentiate singaporeans from locals and are also kiasi, so may whack victims first before robbing them. seems like best strategy is to run if possible.

indomie
01-11-13, 11:15
Wise words!
Be on good terms with neighbours and those around your neighbourhood.
Bring them cake and goodies and chit chat with them in their lingo.
They will keep a lookout for you once you become their kawan.
Singaporeans often forgot the value of "social engineering" effort done by the gov. It take decades to achieve it and tremendeus effort to maintain it. But money doesn't lie. That why u pay more in sg.

leesg123
01-11-13, 11:29
If u encounter these robbers on bikes, just run them down w ur car or truck n cripple them.The robbers also smart, they come in white lorry... :doh:

mermaid
01-11-13, 11:29
They all will wait outside iskandar now. They know Singaporeans are rich.

it is very dangerous for spore plated car to go to msia leh ...


rules of thumb shopping in jb

1. no yayapapaya handbag

2. no yayapapaya watch

3. dress down with normal t-shirt with jean/short/bermuda

4. don't yayapapaya shout cheap cheap sibei cheap and how much they would paid in singapore

try to dress like a beggar, haha ...

gals try not to go alone leh, best to go wif guys, more ppl safer.

leesg123
01-11-13, 11:30
If u encounter these robbers on bikes, just run them down w ur car or truck n cripple them.

If cripple them, they will sue you in THEIR court and who will win?

onglai
01-11-13, 11:38
same here leh. are you my friend? :eek:

haha dont tink so gam ba.... extortion was very common in jb dat time, think many pple oso kena..

mermaid
01-11-13, 11:49
she said the robbers are able to differentiate singaporeans from locals

in jb, dun speak cantonese & English. style yr hair wif lotsa gel to look like JB ah beng, speak Chinese wif a bit of msia slant :p & style.

slant I cant teach u but style I can teach eg end yr sentences wif a lot of wor, eg "zhe yang de wor" :D

& I notice tat msian like to speak Chinese translated directly fm cantonese.

to say "I dreamt"
sporean : "wo zuo meng"
msia : "wo fa meng"

to say "how much"
sporean : "duo shao qian"
msia : "ji duo qian"

to say "give me a chance"
sporean : "gei wo yi ge ji hui"
msia : gei yi ge ji hui wo"

princess_morbucks
01-11-13, 11:54
Best is to speak Malay there lah.

onglai
01-11-13, 11:57
in jb, dun speak cantonese & English. style yr hair wif lotsa gel to look like JB ah beng, speak Chinese wif a bit of msia slant :p & style.

slant I cant teach u but style I can teach eg end yr sentences wif a lot of wor, eg "zhe yang de wor" :D

& I notice tat msian like to speak Chinese translated directly fm cantonese.

to say "I dreamt"
sporean : "wo zuo meng"
msia : "wo fa meng"

to say "how much"
sporean : "duo shao qian"
msia : "ji duo qian"

to say "give me a chance"
sporean : "gei wo yi ge ji hui"
msia : gei yi ge ji hui wo"

or a simpler way.. learn from 7-11 ... PUT A SIGNBOARD.. 我身上几有三十块钱喔...

mermaid
01-11-13, 12:09
Best is to speak Malay there lah.

my malay is ji teh ji teh, haha, lagi worse.
anyway, I look like a typical sporean, so no way to escape, hehe ...

if I go JB, I prefer to go wif my males fwens rather than females fwens. I tink safer a little la. but my jb kakis all very suay one. females ones said they will leave me in the lurch shd I tio tahan by custom for bringing in pirated dvds, males ones threatened to sell me to plantation :(


or a simpler way.. learn from 7-11 ... PUT A SIGNBOARD.. 我身上几有三十块钱喔...

I tink muz dress appropriately & dun open yr mouth unnecc. when I go JB, I wear sandels/sport shoes + blouse + jeans.
last time my bf so kua zhang leh, he really dressed like a begger. he wear a very old t shirt + old bermuders + slippers I was like :doh: even worse, jb ppl wear got wear liddat one? endanger my life instead :(

mermaid
01-11-13, 12:24
If u encounter these robbers on bikes, just run them down w ur car or truck n cripple them.


Yes, I always conditioned myself to do that once over there

best is to drive a heavy continental car
tink sporean shd drive lorry or truck to jb better, can knock robbers down, oso can shop & buy a lot :D

mermaid
01-11-13, 12:27
RM6,000 is sup sup water ... just let it go
not worth it to risk your life with the robbers
you have no idea what they is up to after sniffing glue and desperate for money for their meal (drug)

I go jb nvr bring cr cards....


Erm...my fren from KL said that they also target students.
But they are kinder to students.
Eg if you have only $10, they will take $9 so that you will have $1 to take bus home.

actually go jb, take cab more dangerous. u take their bus safer ...


JB robbers know we all singaporeans kiasi, threaten a bit, put out knife, we gives everything even underwear, that why more & more cases happening now
hahaha, who ask u to wear branded underwears to jb to show off? :p

indomie
01-11-13, 12:41
A little quiz:

U are alone in a dark alley late at night in a tough part of town. At the end of the road a bunch of yahoo walking toward you.

What would you do?

mermaid
01-11-13, 12:52
A little quiz:

U are alone in a dark alley late at night in a tough part of town. At the end of the road a bunch of yahoo walking toward you.

What would you do?

hmmm ... I will cont'd to walk as if no big deal & monitor if they show signs of robbing me. if I feel tat they look like robbers, b4 they strike, I will pretend to hv a heart attack or asthma & wave to them for help while I faint to the floor.
most likely they will robbed a fainted person but I suppose they wun kill me.

indomie
01-11-13, 13:03
hmmm ... I will cont'd to walk as if no big deal & monitor if they show signs of robbing me. if I feel tat they look like robbers, b4 they strike, I will pretend to hv a heart attack or asthma & wave to them for help while I faint to the floor.
most likely they will robbed a fainted person but I suppose they wun kill me.
Close.... But pretend fainting make u immobilised

mermaid
01-11-13, 13:10
Close.... But pretend fainting make u immobilised

wat do u meant by close? there is a modal answer on the best way?
pretend to faint will reduce their alertness towards u mah.
imagine u r conscious they more inclined to kill u after robbing.

onglai
01-11-13, 13:11
A little quiz:

U are alone in a dark alley late at night in a tough part of town. At the end of the road a bunch of yahoo walking toward you.

What would you do?

老兄, 我刚刚被人打抢, 可以借点钱给我搭车回家吗?

mermaid
01-11-13, 13:16
老兄, 我刚刚被人打抢, 可以借点钱给我搭车回家吗?

wah! u r smart leh! :)

u r not as simple as I tink, hehe :D

indomie
01-11-13, 13:20
老兄, 我刚刚被人打抢, 可以借点钱给我搭车回家吗?
Close... But if you are a lady, it could provokes an assault.

onglai
01-11-13, 13:43
wah! u r smart leh! :)

u r not as simple as I tink, hehe :D

多看点港剧, 韩剧不好看的。。。

:D

onglai
01-11-13, 13:45
Close... But if you are a lady, it could provokes an assault.

if charbor just turn back n get out of the dark alley leow loh..

long way better den wrong way man...

hopeful
01-11-13, 13:48
A little quiz:

U are alone in a dark alley late at night in a tough part of town. At the end of the road a bunch of yahoo walking toward you.

What would you do?

run towards them and shout "boys, lets get them".

mermaid
01-11-13, 13:52
多看点港剧, 韩剧不好看的。。。

:D

I watch mostly HK/China series one leh ...

Korean show not my era one :D

indomie
01-11-13, 13:52
if charbor just turn back n get out of the dark alley leow loh..

long way better den wrong way man...

Sure.... But if situation is not permiting, u just pretend to be a local and live in the neighbourhood. Pretend that you are just missing your dog and go calling it. Usually the muggers don't dare to eat and sh*t at the same place.

mermaid
01-11-13, 13:57
Sure.... But if situation is not permiting, u just pretend to be a local and live in the neighbourhood. Pretend that you are just missing your dog and go calling it. Usually the muggers don't dare to eat and sh*t at the same place.

when r u revealing the answer?

onglai
01-11-13, 14:05
when r u revealing the answer?

? the answer already revealed leow ma.. just pretend to be a local.

indomie
01-11-13, 14:07
when r u revealing the answer?
For woman. Pretend calling your missing dog will do. Or grap a package tissue from your bag and try to sell it to them.

For man. Pretend walking in a limping way and act lunatic like talking to yourself.

mermaid
01-11-13, 14:10
? the answer already revealed leow ma.. just pretend to be a local.

oh! I din catch it :(
getting more stupid as days passes :(


For woman. Pretend calling your missing dog will do. Or grap a package tissue from your bag and try to sell it to them.

For man. Pretend walking in a limping way and act lunatic like talking to yourself.

hmmm ... tink it will be easier for me to pretend to be a lunatic, hahaha :o

onglai
01-11-13, 14:14
oh! I din catch it :(
getting more stupid as days passes :(



hmmm ... tink it will be easier for me to pretend to be a lunatic, hahaha :o

u need to pretend meh????

:D:D:D:D

mermaid
01-11-13, 14:20
u need to pretend meh????

:D:D:D:D

hahaha, dun nid :tongue3: tats y I say easier for me mah ...

I mean it will be easier for females to "look" insane cos we can simply mess up our hair a bit, regardless of how short it is.
guys mostly very short hair nothing to mess so really nid to count on yr acting skills.

tell u something, I seldom comb my hair one, most of the time, 1 day not even once haha :D

indomie
01-11-13, 14:20
oh! I din catch it :(
getting more stupid as days passes :(



hmmm ... tink it will be easier for me to pretend to be a lunatic, hahaha :o
Actually acting lunatic is really work. At one time I was in king cross sydney late at night. There was a bunch of drunken aboriginies shouting "f*cking asians" at us. My friends just pretend to walk like invalid and talking loudly to himself. They were more afraid at us than we were at them.

mermaid
01-11-13, 14:33
Actually acting lunatic is really work. At one time I was in king cross sydney late at night. There was a bunch of drunken aboriginies shouting "f*cking asians" at us. My friends just pretend to walk like invalid and talking loudly to himself. They were more afraid at us than we were at them.

but didn't u said the aboriginies were drunk? how come they r still sober enuff to feel frightened?

but hor, liddat discuss very easy. when real thing happen tat time really depends on yr ability to react fast.

phantom_opera
01-11-13, 15:05
U can also get robbed in Europe .. now Paris gangsters all target Chinese

mermaid
01-11-13, 15:24
actually u can juz get rob anywhere la, even in sg.

a few yrs back I was almost "robbed".

it was abt 8-9+ in the nite and I was walking past some hdb flats den suddenly I felt a tug on my bag (btw, it was only a casual denim bag ok, not even leather or branded). I was quite shocked & "ahh" in natural reaction. perhaps the robbers (young malay guys) were 1st timer, they were even more shocked I supposed :p let go of my bag & ran away ...

my neighbourhood is not exactly isolated & I dun wear jewellery at all, not even watch ok, yet Im being targeted.