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leesg123
10-10-13, 10:56
They must have objected to be aquired by the developer. Now lan lan kena surrounded by Parc Bleu. It will never be enbloc for a long long time. Whoever wanna buy and rebuilt also will think twice. In other words...screwed!
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2/vts9.jpg


The developer 'give them' free radiation from the substation!

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6549/k7vs.jpg

xebay11
10-10-13, 11:44
Telok Kurau many such cases, don't see anything screwed, please provide more details.

radha08
10-10-13, 12:05
screw or not screw at least got 2million upwards:cool:

leesg123
10-10-13, 12:24
Telok Kurau many such cases, don't see anything screwed, please provide more details.

This one is trapped in a U shape.

princess_morbucks
10-10-13, 13:09
Where is the substation?
Actually, I don't see why the landed is being screwed?

NorthernStar
10-10-13, 13:33
i guess those units facing it will be screwed if the landed owner decided to rebuild his/her house to same height.

DC33_2008
10-10-13, 14:46
Can just climb over to use the gym, swimming pool, etc.

leesg123
10-10-13, 15:26
Where is the substation?
Actually, I don't see why the landed is being screwed?
Second photo, right hand side is the substation.

Screwed:
1. From now till 5o years later it can no longer joint enbloc with neighbouring landed to be redeveloped into apartment.

2. In fengshui, it is bad to be surrounded by taller buildings. No future buyers will buy it. Even if rebuilt, it will never be same height as the apartment due to URA requirement.
http://kenlaifengshui.blogspot.sg/2011/10/pain-in-rear-feng-shui.html

DC33_2008
10-10-13, 15:29
It is not telok kurau but "terok" kurau.
Second photo, right hand side is the substation.

Screwed:
1. From now till 5o years later it can no longer joint enbloc with neighbouring landed to be redeveloped into apartment.

2. In fengshui, it is bad to be surrounded by taller buildings. No future buyers will buy it. Even if rebuilt, it will never be same height as the apartment due to URA requirement.
http://kenlaifengshui.blogspot.sg/2011/10/pain-in-rear-feng-shui.html

leesg123
10-10-13, 16:30
It is not telok kurau but "terok" kurau.
LOL technically is Joo Chiat Place

wirehtc
10-10-13, 17:22
Telok Kurau many such cases, don't see anything screwed, please provide more details.

The ruling against MM came partly because of strong objections from landed owners in Telok Kurau.

leesg123
10-10-13, 17:33
The ruling against MM came partly because of strong objections from landed owners in Telok Kurau.

These landed owners basket. Own car pouch full, park outside along road. Scream mm will take up their free parking. Hello, mm development got own parking inside deh.

MLP
10-10-13, 18:10
If enbloc, it can become the clubhouse of the condo in my opinion.:p


Second photo, right hand side is the substation.

Screwed:
1. From now till 5o years later it can no longer joint enbloc with neighbouring landed to be redeveloped into apartment.

2. In fengshui, it is bad to be surrounded by taller buildings. No future buyers will buy it. Even if rebuilt, it will never be same height as the apartment due to URA requirement.
http://kenlaifengshui.blogspot.sg/2011/10/pain-in-rear-feng-shui.html

sunboy77
10-10-13, 22:30
Yup screwed.

radha08
10-10-13, 22:31
can rent as child care centre sure huat one:cool:

leesg123
10-10-13, 22:44
can rent as child care centre sure huat one:cool:

The substation is the final nail into the coffin. No parent will send their kids to childcare next to substation and exposed to radiation (no matter how well they say is protected or grounded).

wirehtc
10-10-13, 22:50
These landed owners basket. Own car pouch full, park outside along road. Scream mm will take up their free parking. Hello, mm development got own parking inside deh.

Many landed owners there r not simple people.

radha08
11-10-13, 05:03
The substation is the final nail into the coffin. No parent will send their kids to childcare next to substation and exposed to radiation (no matter how well they say is protected or grounded).

ok then rent to china mei mei after all it is joo chiat:cheers5:

radha08
11-10-13, 05:48
The substation is the final nail into the coffin. No parent will send their kids to childcare next to substation and exposed to radiation (no matter how well they say is protected or grounded).


by the way what kind of radiation is this a nuclear substation:rolleyes:

DC33_2008
11-10-13, 08:26
Did you study left-hand in physics?
by the way what kind of radiation is this a nuclear substation:rolleyes:

Shanhz
11-10-13, 09:11
The substation is the final nail into the coffin. No parent will send their kids to childcare next to substation and exposed to radiation (no matter how well they say is protected or grounded).

any idea how far is a safe distance from substation? and dun tell me the further the better. :tongue3:

coz i look at the picture.. those in the condo living 2nd/3rd storey from the substation. ain't doing any better than the landed. in fact, they nearer than the landed.

usually for big condo devp, the substation is built away from the main buildings. near the rubbish chute or something.

DC33_2008
11-10-13, 09:13
It depends on the SS voltage.
any idea how far is a safe distance from substation? and dun tell me the further the better. :tongue3:

Shanhz
11-10-13, 09:58
i'm not an engineer, all this is greek to me, but i thought i should share this.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/Topics/Radiation/UnderstandingRadiation/InformationSheets/info_SubstationsAndEmfs/

Substations and Electromagnetic Fields

Local area substations are the components of the distribution system which convert electricity at 11 kilovolts to 415 volts and thereby provide the link with the domestic electricity supply. They are sources of magnetic and potentially electric fields.

NRPB has surveyed representative local area substations in order to characterise magnetic fields along enclosure boundaries. Magnetic field measurements taken at 1 m above ground level revealed an overall magnetic flux density of 1.1 microteslas, with individual substation flux density means ranging from 0.1 to 6.6 microteslas. Highest individual measurements of magnetic flux densities in the range 2 to 10 microteslas were encountered in close proximity to the feeder cables. In all cases, at distances varying between 5 and 10 m from the boundary fence, magnetic fields due to substations were undetectable above between 0.02 and 0.05 microteslas; levels typical of low household magnetic fields associated with the electricity supply system. Along the path of cables and lines, magnetic field strengths of up to 1 microtesla were measured.

A National Grid Company survey 1 of suburban substations, with measurements taken at 0.5 m above ground level within 1 m of enclosures, revealed mean magnetic flux densities of about 1.9 microteslas falling by a half over an average distance of 1.3 m, and in the vicinity of housing becoming indistinguishable from the background due to other domestic sources within 5 m.

Electric field strength measurements close to local area substations indicate that electric field strengths are often below 1 volt per metre and this is attributed to the shielding provided by the metallic casing on components and cables, and to the enclosure walls. Only where overhead feeder lines occur, are electric fields likely to exceed a few volts per metre. Up to a few tens of volts per metre have been measured beneath associated high voltage supply lines; circuit configurations which are generally rare.

The power frequency magnetic fields recorded around local area substations are much less than the ICNIRP reference levels for public exposure of 100 microteslas and 5 kilovolts per metre, which are based on preventing well established biological effects 2.

Shanhz
11-10-13, 09:59
http://www.emfs.info/Sources+of+EMFs/Substations/Final+distribution+substations/

Substations: final distribution substations

These substations transform electricity from (usually) 11 kV to the supply voltage for homes, 230 V (also described as 400 V). In urban areas there is one to every few hundred houses, in rural areas they are smaller still, often mounted on poles, and serve just a few homes. There are over 400,000 substations in the UK - more on numbers of substations

Electric fields

The metal fence round an outdoor substation or the cabinet or building structure for enclosed substations usually ensures that no electric fields are produced outside the substation.

Magnetic fields

The equipment inside a substation - particularly the busbars and switchgear, less so the transformer - produces magnetic fields. But the field falls with distance, and usually, the field at the perimeter fence may be slightly elevated but falls to background levels within a few metres. This means in most cases a substation is not a significant source of exposure in homes. But sometimes, if the substation is right next to a house, it can be a reason for the field in the home being elevated.

This is most true for substations built into a block of flats or other large building where it can be just the other side of a wall from a public or residential area. This does happen but is relatively rare in the UK.

The design of substations varies. The individual items of equipment in outdoor substations tend to be relatively compact, and modern substations are often a "unit" design where the transformer, switchgear and fuseboard are all bolted together in a single unit, which is even more compact. But indoor substations can be laid out more spaciously - the frame with all the fuses can be spread over a wall, and the busbars may be fastened to a wall or ceiling fairly well spaced. So, sometimes, these substations can produce higher magnetic fields than most substations. See more detail on substations inside buildings.

The evidence

National Grid surveyed 25 final distribution substations in suburban areas in Surrey in the 1980s. Mean magnetic fields close to the perimeter fence were about 1.5 μT, falling to half this in an average distance of 1.3 m and becoming indistinguishable from the background due to other sources within 5 m.

Grainger and Preece (2000) [see abstract below] surveyed substations in four areas round Bristol. The average value of the field at the closest public access to the substation ranged from 0.3 - 1 μT and at 2 m from the substation mean fields were typically 0.02 μT.

Maslanyj (1996) [see abstract below] surveyed 27 substations in Oxfordshire. The mean magnetic field against the boundary was 1.1 μT. Distances for the field to fall to 0.2 μT were 0-1.5 m and to fall to 0.05 μT were 1-5 m.

Shanhz
11-10-13, 10:01
It depends on the SS voltage.

let's say.. the SS for a typical condo devp of 500 units... for example?

leesg123
11-10-13, 10:06
ok then rent to china mei mei after all it is joo chiat:cheers5:

Tats feasible :banana:

hopeful
11-10-13, 10:55
any idea how far is a safe distance from substation? and dun tell me the further the better. :tongue3:

coz i look at the picture.. those in the condo living 2nd/3rd storey from the substation. ain't doing any better than the landed. in fact, they nearer than the landed.

usually for big condo devp, the substation is built away from the main buildings. near the rubbish chute or something.

they are safer, the floors have interlocking steel decking, which provides shielding from EM waves.

the landed are more dangerous, since the brick walls (with exception of columns) do not block EM waves.

princess_morbucks
11-10-13, 11:10
What about those living in landed next to substation?
Will they be at risk?

hopeful
11-10-13, 11:38
we can always put copper mesh in the windows and walls to prevent EM waves from leaking in.

That's what embassies around in the world are doing.
To prevent EM waves from leaking out.

I asked around in my town, the windows need to be imported. so i just put a basic mosquito metal mesh in the windows.

Shanhz
11-10-13, 16:29
they are safer, the floors have interlocking steel decking, which provides shielding from EM waves.

the landed are more dangerous, since the brick walls (with exception of columns) do not block EM waves.

thanks, i learnt something new today

but does that means even the room/enclosure of the substation itself would already have some steel structure inside to prevent EMF from leaking out?

sgbuyer
11-10-13, 18:03
any idea how far is a safe distance from substation? and dun tell me the further the better. :tongue3:

coz i look at the picture.. those in the condo living 2nd/3rd storey from the substation. ain't doing any better than the landed. in fact, they nearer than the landed.

usually for big condo devp, the substation is built away from the main buildings. near the rubbish chute or something.


You can buy emf meters, i google and saw a couple stores selling it, some only $50 or so. I'm thinking of buying one, can check the radiation from handphone also. :)

Any bro or sis here used one before?

princess_morbucks
11-10-13, 19:55
You can buy emf meters, i google and saw a couple stores selling it, some only $50 or so. I'm thinking of buying one, can check the radiation from handphone also. :)

Any bro or sis here used one before?

Hi bro, qoo10 is selling:)
http://www.qoo10.sg/gmkt.inc/Mobile/Goods/Goods.aspx?goodscode=410639114

princess_morbucks
11-10-13, 20:45
Btw I saw got free app emf meter on Google playstore.....lol...u can try....if u believe ur phone have sensors.

proud owner
12-10-13, 01:28
there are many such landed houses in Singapore ...where one is 'surrounded' by condos....

chestnut
12-10-13, 06:07
there are many such landed houses in Singapore ...where one is 'surrounded' by condos....


I thot got backing leh... Mountain backing....

Shanhz
12-10-13, 15:22
Hi bro, qoo10 is selling:)
http://www.qoo10.sg/gmkt.inc/Mobile/Goods/Goods.aspx?goodscode=410639114


thanks. i was also checking them out. one local supplier quoted me $160. thanks for the tip.

proud owner
12-10-13, 18:10
I thot got backing leh... Mountain backing....


I almost bought a semi D at D20 Jalan Tambur or Tambur Road ... lucky didn't buy ...

behind it now is a Huge mountain ....

princess_morbucks
12-10-13, 18:22
I almost bought a semi D at D20 Jalan Tambur or Tambur Road ... lucky didn't buy ...

behind it now is a Huge mountain ....
What type of mountain?

proud owner
12-10-13, 18:38
What type of mountain?


ahhaha a new condo lah .. right behind the house ....

Sleepyhead
13-10-13, 14:13
This one is trapped in a U shape.

Poor owner.. Govt shouldn't have allowed this to happen.... One side ok.. Two sides still ok... But 3 sides is crazy!

onglai
27-10-13, 09:35
we can always put copper mesh in the windows and walls to prevent EM waves from leaking in.

That's what embassies around in the world are doing.
To prevent EM waves from leaking out.

I asked around in my town, the windows need to be imported. so i just put a basic mosquito metal mesh in the windows.

From wat I understand, u need to ground the shield for it to be effective.