Some Singaporeans are daft and expect free lunches

[phantom_opera]

Other than daft:

MM Lee: Singaporeans have become less hard-driving and hard-striving. This is why it is a good thing that the nation has welcomed so many Chinese immigrants. (National Geographic, Jan 2010)

Due to change of EP policies, recently I interviewed many SCs/SPRs around 5kpm ... I was convinced by what MM Lee said

Many native Singaporean PMETs jobless only can blame themselves .. they are so uncompetitive compared to those converted citizens/SPRs :mad:

[phantom_opera]

why so harsh??

http://emlab.berkeley.edu/users/webfac/eichengreen/e183_sp07/great_doub.pdf

Great Doubling ..!!!

This change greatly increased the size of the global labor pool from approximately 1.46 billion workers to 2.93 billion workers . . . I have called this ‘The Great Doubling’ . . . What impact might the doubling of the global work force have on workers? . . . You don’t need an economics PhD to see that this would be good for employers but terrible for workers.

on the positive note:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/neerjajetley/2013/07/08/singaporeans-are-the-fastest-in-the-world-to-become-millionaires/

sadly, only 20+% can potentially make it past the dreadful 5kpm chasm

http://www.tremeritus.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/slide112-640x480.jpg

[august]

Should rephrase as 'Some Singaporeans are daft to expect free lunches to last forever'.

[invigorated]

before we stereotype, we have to understand that there are flaws in stereotyping.

is your sample size enough to speak sufficiently that many are like that? at least in my office, the Singaporeans work OT to finish their work without extra pay. my friends who are teachers conduct extra classes for their students. my insurance and real estate agents go the extra mile as well.

even then, I cannot convincingly say that many Singaporeans are hardworking.

I always hear people saying that singaporeans are kiasu, but in the countries I've been to I.e. Hong kong, China, Japan and Australia, i've also seen my fair share of kiasu people.. but would it be fair to say that they are mostly like that?

just because lky stereotypes sg as such, doesn't mean that it's right to do that.

[indomie]

before we stereotype, we have to understand that there are flaws in stereotyping.

is your sample size enough to speak sufficiently that many are like that? at least in my office, the Singaporeans work OT to finish their work without extra pay. my friends who are teachers conduct extra classes for their students. my insurance and real estate agents go the extra mile as well.

even then, I cannot convincingly say that many Singaporeans are hardworking.

I always hear people saying that singaporeans are kiasu, but in the countries I've been to I.e. Hong kong, China, Japan and Australia, i've also seen my fair share of kiasu people.. but would it be fair to say that they are mostly like that?

just because lky stereotypes sg as such, doesn't mean that it's right to do that.
Working harder doesn't means more competitive.

[Regulators]

Some singaporeans are daft beyond belief...Complain like hell about sky high property prices during election and still get happily sucked by developers who make them pay sky high future prices. :doh: :doh: :doh:

[august]

Working harder doesn't means more competitive.

tell that to LKY. :)

[phantom_opera]

Should rephrase as 'Some Singaporeans are daft to expect free lunches to last forever'.

yup that will be less "flaming" :tongue3:

@invigorated ... I just said "some" I never said "most"

[princess_morbucks]

Some singaporeans are daft beyond belief...Complain like hell about sky high property prices during election and still get happily sucked by developers who make them pay sky high future prices. :doh: :doh: :doh:

They don't mind sky high prices as the sky is the limit.

[ecimbew]

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[ahkongkid]

replace Singapore with any other country and the following sentence will still hold true. :doh:

"Some Singaporeans are daft and expect free lunches"



yup that will be less "flaming" :tongue3:

@invigorated ... I just said "some" I never said "most"

[Allthepies]

The louder they complain about their jobs and companies, the less competitive they are if they still remain in the same jobs year after year.

sadly there are many such "talents" in my office....keep complaining about the jobs/company, yet still remain after many years....

[ahkongkid]

maybe you take the complaints too seriously? i dunno of anyone who goes around not complaining about his or her job and professes immense love for their jobs. ppl just like to lament la.. give them a break..
ok, perhaps only housing agents profess their love for their jobs, when they go around crapping their clients. :D


The louder they complain about their jobs and companies, the less competitive they are if they still remain in the same jobs year after year.

sadly there are many such "talents" in my office....keep complaining about the jobs/company, yet still remain after many years....

[star]

Filipino at my workplace never complain work overtime all ok and they are quite hardworking. When u ask Singaporeans to work overtime they tell u they want life balance.

[invigorated]

Working harder doesn't means more competitive.

true to some extent, but it does in some industries, esp those labour intensive ones.

[ahkongkid]

probably inefficient. Those at my workplace like to take tea break and can't finish their work. Then work OT since nothing to do after work and no family to return to, unlike a Singaporean worker who wld rather spend quality time with the family after work than working OT due to inefficiency.


Filipino at my workplace never complain work overtime all ok and they are quite hardworking. When u ask Singaporeans to work overtime they tell u they want life balance.

[hyenergix]

Other than daft:

MM Lee: Singaporeans have become less hard-driving and hard-striving. This is why it is a good thing that the nation has welcomed so many Chinese immigrants. (National Geographic, Jan 2010)

Due to change of EP policies, recently I interviewed many SCs/SPRs around 5kpm ... I was convinced by what MM Lee said

Many native Singaporean PMETs jobless only can blame themselves .. they are so uncompetitive compared to those converted citizens/SPRs :mad:

The trick lies in the exchange rate and cost of living back home.

[invigorated]

yup that will be less "flaming" :tongue3:

@invigorated ... I just said "some" I never said "most"

yes I noted that but you were insinuating.

remember you did quote lky posts on Singaporeans in general and then you mentioned you agreed to it? hee.

[invigorated]

it is true that foreign labour is required to keep costs low.

and businesses do prefer them not only for the lower pay but because these workers tend to commit more of their time as they do not have the same social obligations,

there is indeed an unfair advantage.

and there's a cost to this. decades ago, I would close two eyes and get a Toyota when it was made in Japan. but now that it is made in Thailand, Indonesia.. there seems to be a fair loss in reliability and consumer confidence.

wouldn't a reduction in cost through a huge foreign workforce bring about other social costs? with the previous election results, most seem to agree that it is indeed a costly affair for the government.

and to those who are critical that sgeans want work life balance, don't you want that too?

[minority]

Working harder doesn't means more competitive.

some think work hard means enough. in the real world. work hard aint enough

[minority]

Other than daft:

MM Lee: Singaporeans have become less hard-driving and hard-striving. This is why it is a good thing that the nation has welcomed so many Chinese immigrants. (National Geographic, Jan 2010)

Due to change of EP policies, recently I interviewed many SCs/SPRs around 5kpm ... I was convinced by what MM Lee said

Many native Singaporean PMETs jobless only can blame themselves .. they are so uncompetitive compared to those converted citizens/SPRs :mad:

nothing is for free. what ever free lunch come with a future cost. Many just cannot see past tat. all short term vision.

[mcmlxxvi]

Work smart, not hard.

Those who are always seen at their desks even after offce hours - you just dont see their fb or msn wndows.

[hyenergix]

Sometimes it is the fault of the daft interviewers who put up the wrong job description and shortlisted the wrong candidates for interviews. It ends up a waste of time and resources on both sides.

[nevereatrice]

Wow..just stumbled into this thread in 2020.

In 2020, the big issue many of us will have to grapple with is CECA free trade agreement.

Basically all EP holders earning $3900 and above monthly salary are not subject to MOM foreigner quota in companies.

And CECA allows for free flow of professionals between Singapore and India.

The list of professions guaranteed free flow is here:

http://www.commonlii.org/sg/other/treaties/2005/1/INSFTA-Annex-9A.html

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