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ahlahdin
11-07-07, 17:15
Launching soon!

http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/pdf/20070622/bukittimah.pdf

Unregistered2
06-05-08, 11:46
Noted that JLL will be marketing Floridian. It will be exciting to see the price of this project when it is launched this week.

mr funny
09-05-08, 04:26
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/news/story/0,4574,278417,00.html?

Published May 9, 2008

Developers test waters with condo launches

Sale of Floridian, Quartet on Vanda and Parc Seabreeze have begun

By KALPANA RASHIWALA


DEVELOPERS are gingerly testing the water for residential launches this week. Far East Organization's listed unit Orchard Parade Holdings and Wing Tai have begun the official launch of their Floridian condo in Bukit Timah, marked by the start of an advertising campaign.

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Resort living: The Floridian is inspired by the Miami coast and will be surrounded by water features

Prices start at $1,615 psf. BT understands the average net price is in the range of $1,600 to $1,700 psf after discounts.

The freehold project has 336 units in 11 towers on a site of 230,000 sq ft. The preview for the development began a few months ago, with six units sold at $1,640 to $1,770 psf.

This week's official launch sees the release of 75 units in Towers 2 and 9. Units range from two-bedders of 840 sq ft to apartments with four bedrooms (plus study) of 2,373 sq ft. Floridian, designed by DP Architects, is inspired by the Miami coast and will be surrounded by water features. Ground-floor units will have the water's edge outside their living and dining spaces. The project is near Hwa Chong Institution, Methodist Girls' School, Nanyang Girls' High School, Raffles Girls' Primary School and the Canadian International School.

Another freehold project being previewed this week is Quartet on Vanda, a cluster development of four bungalows in Vanda Crescent off Dunearn Road (near Eng Neo Avenue). Each two-storey unit has an attic, a basement and a swimming pool.

Built-up areas range from 4,844 sq ft to 4,919 sq ft. The units are understood to be priced around $6 million each. Quartet on Vanda is being developed by Stanley Quek's Region Development.

Over in the eastern part of Singapore, Tiong Aik is understood to have begun the preview of Parc Seabreeze in the Marine Parade/Joo Chiat area last week. The average price for the freehold project is understood to be in the $1,600-1,700 psf range.

URA
18-06-08, 12:48
Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of May 2008

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Floridian ............ RCR ....... 1 ............................... 1,750 ............. 1,750 ............ 1,750

Unregistered 000
07-08-08, 12:13
965 Bukit Timah Road ( Besides Maplewoods and The Nexus) Freehold. Quiet and exclusive. Full condo facilities and jogging track within development.
Site area : 21,441.80sqm/230,780sqft.
TOP mid 2011.
Total no. of units = 336 ( 11 towers of 10-storey)

Tower 2 -

2 BR (#05,#08) 840 - 947 sf - From $1,370,000 after 12% discount.
2 + study (#06) 893 - 969 sf - From $1,490,000
after 12 % discount.
3 BR (#07) 1,292 - 1,346 - From $2,200,000
after 12 % discount

Tower 9 -

2+ study (#25,#26) 904 - 969sf - From $1,490,000 after 12% discount

4BR (#24,#27) 1,765 - 1862sf - From $2,966,000 after 12 % discount

Direct from developer - stamp fee and 3% cash rebate. (subject to changes)



Wah Lau eh.. FEO charging 1500 psf.. and got one buyer already liao..

people so desperate for an apartment meh??

URA
17-10-08, 11:19
Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of September 2008

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Floridian ............ RCR ....... 8 ............................... 1,540 ............. 1,443 ............ 1,397

moonk123
12-12-08, 10:56
Project Name-FLORIDIAN
Developer-Orwin Development Ltd(Far East Organization / Wing Tai Holdings)
Property Type-Condominium
Tenure - Freehold
Total Units - 336
Completion Date - Uncompleted
District - 21

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sushi
05-03-09, 21:06
Hi, any chance for this development to drop to $900+psf??

kal
05-03-09, 21:57
i would say "No chance at all !! "

sushi
06-03-09, 21:40
i would say "No chance at all !! "

Care to explain why? Coz I thought property prices are coming down and there is one agent who told me she can help me try at $1000psf, thats why hold back and am thinking if $900psf is possible towards the year end...:):beats-me-man:

dtrax
06-03-09, 22:38
becoz its FEO... poor quality and skyhigh prices

sushi
06-03-09, 23:07
becoz its FEO... poor quality and skyhigh prices

Hahaha...so FEO will never reduce price one la?? Die die also hug and jump together rather than letting it go a a lower profit margin...cool!!! We shall see....:spliff:

Patricialim
17-03-09, 15:37
Hahaha...so FEO will never reduce price one la?? Die die also hug and jump together rather than letting it go a a lower profit margin...cool!!! We shall see....:spliff:

lolx... u r rite... nw is still pricing at 1150psf and there might be a increase of price cos aft all is freehold at bukit timah! and unit size nt small oso...

FEO style is they will rather hold den cheap sale.

gfoo
17-03-09, 15:43
has anyone viewed floridian's showflat? it's nestled in a most pathetic location surrounded by 3 condos all around. i would stay far far away from this project - completely overpriced

proud owner
17-03-09, 15:49
lolx... u r rite... nw is still pricing at 1150psf and there might be a increase of price cos aft all is freehold at bukit timah! and unit size nt small oso...

FEO style is they will rather hold den cheap sale.

is that dist 11 or 21 ??

if 21 rather buy clementi ..

Patricialim
17-03-09, 16:17
is that dist 11 or 21 ??

if 21 rather buy clementi ..

floridian is D21 bt address is bukit timah road..

Patricialim
17-03-09, 16:23
Care to explain why? Coz I thought property prices are coming down and there is one agent who told me she can help me try at $1000psf, thats why hold back and am thinking if $900psf is possible towards the year end...:):beats-me-man:

FEO have another location oso freehold bt is at hillview, HILL VISTA n rite now they have promotion unit and lowest ard 910psf..

proud owner
17-03-09, 16:49
FEO have another location oso freehold bt is at hillview, HILL VISTA n rite now they have promotion unit and lowest ard 910psf..

please dont buy hill view area .. already so many condo there .. why still pay 1000 psf ??? you can get any FH there below 900 psf

jonleelk
14-04-09, 00:19
seems like not much discussion on Floridian even though the asking price has dropped from $1600psf during launch to the current $1150psf.

Still too expensive for a D21? Swee swee bukit timah address, plus future underground MRT just opposite the road.

firestarter
14-04-09, 08:00
just been to the showroom last weekend ... quite "lok kok" i must say ... the models of the rooms looks like done by small kids for arts and craft ... agent quote me $1,200 .. citing the development in the vicinity are holding firm @ $1,600 ... :tsk-tsk:

proud owner
14-04-09, 10:32
just been to the showroom last weekend ... quite "lok kok" i must say ... the models of the rooms looks like done by small kids for arts and craft ... agent quote me $1,200 .. citing the development in the vicinity are holding firm @ $1,600 ... :tsk-tsk:

on the same note ..Alexis 1000 psf .. does that mean Queens will be 1000 psf ?

simply becos they are pigeon hole units ..hence the PSF higher ...

propertysale01
14-05-09, 09:44
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Welcome to the Miami-inspired resort lifestyle.
Where lavish landscapes and enclaves of themed indulgences are set around gorgeous cascading pools.
Where the days are pampering, and the nights fascinating.
Where beautiful people sizzle, and the trendy mingle.
This is where the high life awaits.

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Where the world revolves around you.
Located in the heart of the prestigious Bukit Timah district. Floridian is a freehold luxury condominium surrounded by famed educational establishments suchas Hwa Chong Institutition, Methodist Girl’s School, and Nayang Girls’ Primary School. Just a stone’s throw away too, is the Bukit Timah Nature Reserve – perfect for a leisurely stroll the evenings. And with Bukit Timah Plaza and King Albert Park in the vicinity, weekend gourment shopping is yours to enjoy.

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Where you make your choice from amongst five theme enclaves
Three cascading pools run the length of Floridian’s landscape, setting the stage for waterfront living inspired by Miami’s high life entertainment resorts. Built alongside these waters are five differently themed enclaves, each eliciting a unique ambience of indulgence. From Downtown to The Keys, The Verandah, Hideaway, and South Beach, you’ll find an enclave to call home.
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Downtown, where it’s high on the style quotient
At the vibrant Downtown enclave, two towers of 2, 2+1 and 3 bedroom units call out to the cosmopolitan urbanite in you. Clean lines and bold colours characterize the architecture. Take the lift up to the roof for an afternoon of sky tennis. Or head down to the 25-metre lap pool, complete with a children’s pool and splash court, for a relaxing dip and hydrotherapy treatment.


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The Keys, where it’s all about living it up
For the uber trendy, The Keys is perfect for poolside dinner parties, and chilling out under the stars thereafter. With its residential towers positioned right between a lap pool and Floridian’s largest cascading pool, this is one enclave where fun is free-flowing and the ambience inviting. So get the music going. Let your hair down. And live in the moment.

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The Verandah, where the view makes your day
Occupying, the highest point on the Floridian terrain, The Verandah tower offer spectacular views of the central waterscape, taking your breadth away. Here, each unit is designed to inspire, with a balcony at the front and garden terrace at the kitchen to create a double frontage for breezy ventilation. Atop the towers, a rooftop terrace is transformed into a tropical garden with dining and lounging areas, while at the ground level, a canopy of swaying palms lends a languid air to the enclave.

Hideaway, where tranquility beckons
Leave the world at your doorstep, Lounge at your private balcony, accessible only from the master bedroom. Or enjoy a moment with your loved ones, mesmerized by the view of the cascading Palm Grove Pools, alongside which spa seats bring rejuvenation under the shade of swaying palms. Serenity dwells at the Hideaway enclave.

South Beach where there’s something for everyone in the family
At South Beach, thrills and frills await contemporary families. Children will love the theme park-inspired entertainment at Fun World, while parents will take to luxuries like pool alcoves with jet messages, outdoor hot tubs, and alfresco dining facilities. At the end of a great day-out, retiring to your 4-bedroom home is a joy, with an unobstructured view of the landscape, and pool water lapping right up to the private enclosed space of the ground floor units

The Club, where bonds are built and friendships nurtured
A beautifully landscaped avenue adorned with water features invites you into The Club, where residents and their guests can share friendly moments lounging beside the poolside bar, sipping pina coladas while enjoying a tan on the lawn deck.
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Hideaway Spa Sanctuary where the body, mind and soul find their retreat.
Tucked quietly behind the Hideaway towers is the Hideaway Spa Sanctuary, an accessible refuge for tired bodies and weary souls. With the hydrotherapy facilities ranging from spa seats to spa beds and a bubble pool, you’ll find rejuvenation in the tranquility of a beautiful garden setting. For a little more fun while relaxing, a spa party could be the answer. Have your friends over for a pampering treat, and a complete the experience with healthy spa cuisine.

The Pier Side, where entertaining is a breeze
When it comes to hosting a dinner party, The Pier Side is the ideal venue. Here, pavilions set against a garden backdrop are fully equipped for the preparation of a specialty cuisines such as tandoori, teppanyaki, and pizza. Invite a chef. Or impress your guest wth your culinary skills. Whichever you choose, it will be a memorable experience.
Where your personal style takes centrestage
At Floridian, the interior decoration of each unit is well thought out, with your immaculate style and sophisticated taste in mind. Warm textured timber balances the sleek glassy fenestration. Full height windows extend your space seamlessly into the outdoors. A coffee maker and built-in wine chiller complete the picture of luxury resort living. Step in. You will feel right at home.

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Jointly developed by:
Orchard Parade Holdings Limited & WingTai Asia

FACILITIES
Water Features
• Reflective Pool at the Verandah
• Splash Court at Fun Land near Wading Pool
• Water Spout Portal
• Water Feature at the Pier side
Recreational Pools & Spas
• Downtown Pool
• Wading Pool
• Keys Pool
• Sunbathing shelf
• South Beach Pool
• Palm Grove Hydrotherapy Pool
• 25m Palm Grove Lap Pool
• Palm Grove Relaxation Pool
Outdoor Activity Areas
• Tennis Court
• Body Sculpting Corners
• The Pier Side
• Palm Grove Outdoor dining
• South Beach Outdoor dining
• Boardwalk
• Jogging track
• Roof Garden
AMENITIES
• Cold Storage Supermarket @ King Albert Park
• Fair Price Finest Supermarket @ Bt Timah Plaza
• Giant Supermarket @ Turf City
• Rail Mall Eateries
• Cold Storage Supermarket @ Jelita House
• King Albert MacDonald
• King Albert Park
• Brizay Park
• Bukit Timah Nature Reserve
• Bukit Batok Nature Park
• Green Fairways Golf Course & Driving Range




























Location: Bukit Timah Road
Tenure: Freehold
Total number of units: 336
2 bedroom 840 - 947
2 + 1 893 - 1001
3 1281 - 1432
3 + 1 1658 - 2034
4 1830 - 2347
4 + 1 2357 - 2852
Storey height: 10 storeys
Architect: DP Architect
Recreation: Water Features, Recreation Pools, Hideaway Spa Sanctuary, Tennis Courts, Body Sculpting Corner, The Pier Side, Waterng Hole, Palm Grove Outdoor Dining, South Beach Outdoor Dining, South Beach Fun Land, Outdoor Dining Pavilion, Boardwalk Jogging Track and Roof Garden
(To be confirmed)
TOP: Estimated 2013
By MRT: Upcoming MRT Circle Line ( to be run frm Bukit Panjang to Promenade Station, located near Suntec City)
PSF From: $1200 onwards.

Interested party: Please call
Aaron | 9028 7921.

jonleelk
14-05-09, 11:43
hi, currently still only "downtown" is available for booking?

beverly
15-05-09, 09:55
FEO have another location oso freehold bt is at hillview, HILL VISTA n rite now they have promotion unit and lowest ard 910psf..


HIILVISTA location is bad .. not even near the future MRT at railmall, nested deep inside hillview and simply overpriced ! those FH along hume avenue are between 800-900 psf, or even lower for some of these estates.

beverly
15-05-09, 10:03
HIILVISTA location is bad .. not even near the future MRT at railmall, nested deep inside hillview and simply overpriced ! those FH along hume avenue are between 800-900 psf, or even lower for some of these estates.

Check out these asking prices at Hillview, FH .. much cheaper than hillvista :


Hume Park I, Hume Ave (http://www.iproperty.com.sg/property/listing.aspx?pid=TSP011682&ref=ar)
1453 sq. ft.
Asking Price: $1,050,000
Chesney Real Estate
<img style="border: 1px solid rgb(153, 153, 153); margin: 5px;" width="100" height="70">Pandan Valley, 2 Pandan Valley (http://www.iproperty.com.sg/property/listing.aspx?pid=TSP094342&ref=ar)
2560 sq. ft.
Asking Price: $2,099,000
Dtl
<img style="border: 1px solid rgb(153, 153, 153); margin: 5px;" width="100" height="70">Parc Palais, Hume Ave (http://www.iproperty.com.sg/property/listing.aspx?pid=TSP088947&ref=ar)
1485 sq. ft.
Asking Price: $980,000
Dennis Wee

BBelle
01-10-09, 15:47
wat units are open for booking and izit worth to buy?

Reporter
17-12-09, 10:44
Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of November 2009

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Floridian ............ RCR ........ 125 .......................... 2 ................................ 1,445 ............ 1,400 ............ 1,355
$1,445 psf is good for D21 but still far from Floridian's high of $1,750 psf.

Reporter
16-01-10, 17:31
Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of December 2009

Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Floridian .......... RCR ....... 131 ...................... 6 ........................... 1,432 ........... 1,400 ........... 1,351
Can't break its all-time high of $1,750 psf.

Reporter
15-04-10, 17:48
$1,670 psf?
Still can't break hïgh of $1,750 psf.


Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of March 2010
Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Floridian .......... RCR ....... 146 ....................... 5 ........................... 1,670 ........... 1,400 ........... 1,370

satomilton
26-04-10, 20:17
Hei,

All comments welcome: how MRT will impact Floridian valuation in next yrs? It certainly will support prices but will it be just some support or a big deal ? Ask this because suddenly being close to MRT will not be that unique given all the stations to be opened by 2015 when King Albert mrt station will also be.

On another note, what s your impression of the site plan, layout?
Being Far East O. does give some credibility as to expect very good outdoor design. Also DP architects is a rather large firm, having signed project of the Resorts in Sentosa themselves.
But, do you think the project Floridian itself has any major drawback or positives compared w others around distrcit 21 and 10?

Tks!:scared-4:

Allthepies
26-04-10, 20:52
quality aside, u can be sure that Far East always have some of the best location

satomilton
26-04-10, 22:59
floridian will be walking dist from mrt. will it be a big adv then, when all other stations will be operating as well?


Wanna hear your thoughts, I personally think it will still be a good adv. as it will be much more connected to central area but at same time bukit timah area where floridian is should remain a well appointed residential area w schools.

Reporter
17-05-10, 16:56
$1,707 psf?
Still can't break hïgh of $1,750 psf.


Private Residential Units Sold in the Month of April 2010
Project Name . Locality . Units Sold To Date . Units Sold In Month . Highest $psf . Median $psf . Lowest $psf
Floridian .......... RCR ....... 150 ....................... 4 ........................... 1,707 ........... 1,597 ........... 1,440

livenlove
18-05-10, 11:39
floridian will be walking dist from mrt. will it be a big adv then, when all other stations will be operating as well?


Wanna hear your thoughts, I personally think it will still be a good adv. as it will be much more connected to central area but at same time bukit timah area where floridian is should remain a well appointed residential area w schools.

Hi, My thoughts based on having lived in the area for 12 years and counting.
Floridian and the few clusters of largish FL/999FH condo are unbeatable as a location for real families.
Bread and butter amenities, value for money food are just round the corner/up the road-NTUC-Finest, Cold Storage, Beauty World food areas, Bukit Timah hawker centre/wet market. MGS/Ngee Ann Poly is just next door. many good schools are straight down the road via Dunearn road, future CBD at Jurong is quite near for the future eventualities. There is a lot of greeneries/matured trees; parks and nature reserves are also within the vicinity.
As I said these are for real families real stayers with practical considerations (not speculators or super-rich to park their money but dont need to stay).
I always read about bad traffic being mentioned-but traffic moves at a pace thats IS associated with peak hours-get real. This is due to the fact that a large percentage if not all the households own cars and drive to work.
The ERP near Stevens Road is only 50cts which is hardly any dis-incentive-but none of us I believe are petitioning for higher charges to get more cars off the road.
The DTL2 goes straight to the new downtown/IR and is said to be the most expensive line, being fully underground, that serves the least no. of people.
What more can one ask unless one has unlimited $ resources.
In fact I love the area so much that am looking for a second new FH property in the general vicinity possibly also to stay-but due to $ constraint are looking at the immediate upstream neigbourhood of Jurong Kechil/Old Jurong Road.

teddybear
18-05-10, 13:33
many good schools are straight down the road via Dunearn road
- that down the road probably needs to drive for more than 10 mins (more if during peak hours)!

The ERP near Stevens Road is only 50cts which is hardly any dis-incentive
- Why the need for ERP along Dunearn Road after Stevens Road junction? Because traffic very very bad in the direction from Upper Bukit Timah towards Newton mah, so have to discourage people from driving there. If traffic still that bad, increasing ERP charges is just a matter of time.

Anybody who pay $1700 psf for Floridian - :doh:
For that price they could have got themselves a property in Balmoral/Newton/Novena areas that are less crowded and less jammed up on the roads and closer to all the good schools there as compared to the upper part of the Dunern Road (north of Stevens Road).


Hi, My thoughts based on having lived in the area for 12 years and counting.
Floridian and the few clusters of largish FL/999FH condo are unbeatable as a location for real families.
Bread and butter amenities, value for money food are just round the corner/up the road-NTUC-Finest, Cold Storage, Beauty World food areas, Bukit Timah hawker centre/wet market. MGS/Ngee Ann Poly is just next door. many good schools are straight down the road via Dunearn road, future CBD at Jurong is quite near for the future eventualities. There is a lot of greeneries/matured trees; parks and nature reserves are also within the vicinity.
As I said these are for real families real stayers with practical considerations (not speculators or super-rich to park their money but dont need to stay).
I always read about bad traffic being mentioned-but traffic moves at a pace thats IS associated with peak hours-get real. This is due to the fact that a large percentage if not all the households own cars and drive to work.
The ERP near Stevens Road is only 50cts which is hardly any dis-incentive-but none of us I believe are petitioning for higher charges to get more cars off the road.
The DTL2 goes straight to the new downtown/IR and is said to be the most expensive line, being fully underground, that serves the least no. of people.
What more can one ask unless one has unlimited $ resources.
In fact I love the area so much that am looking for a second new FH property in the general vicinity possibly also to stay-but due to $ constraint are looking at the immediate upstream neigbourhood of Jurong Kechil/Old Jurong Road.

livenlove
18-05-10, 14:31
many good schools are straight down the road via Dunearn road
- that down the road probably needs to drive for more than 10 mins (more if during peak hours)!

The ERP near Stevens Road is only 50cts which is hardly any dis-incentive
- Why the need for ERP along Dunearn Road after Stevens Road junction? Because traffic very very bad in the direction from Upper Bukit Timah towards Newton mah, so have to discourage people from driving there. If traffic still that bad, increasing ERP charges is just a matter of time.

Anybody who pay $1700 psf for Floridian - :doh:
For that price they could have got themselves a property in Balmoral/Newton/Novena areas that are less crowded and less jammed up on the roads and closer to all the good schools there as compared to the upper part of the Dunern Road (north of Stevens Road).

Hi,
Have no issues with any of your comments or any other point of views-opinion was shared for the enquiring forumer, based on my personal experience, requirements and opinion living at the area for a long time; and within the constraints, trade offs, hence there will always be a downsides and conversely. Hence driving 10mins or more, slow but moving traffic, perhaps even higher ERP to improve things if it does, and with the future MRT the option of not driving to work-noting the ever decreasing nos of parking lots and increasing parking cost within the CBD are just part of the equation, which might be none issue, minor to some but major to others.

Floridian is a brand new project; and within the context of similar brand new project, expensive it may be, doubt for similar new projects you could get same price for Balmoral/Newton-FEO also, Cyan I think now asking $2200+ maybe more. And in addition Newton, Novena are referred to as home of the "needle" condos. ie very tall thin condos with hardly any land to speak of, cluttered and closed to each other, but again to each his own and within his means and acceptable trade-offs.

teddybear
18-05-10, 15:00
Who cares whether it is brand new or not? Buy brand new after a few years still become old. What is more important is: Is it value for money vs other locations & other condos? I rather go for resale in better location any time for this kind of "brand new" price.

Cyan worth $2200 psf means Floridian not even worth $1700 psf (location is like "hell & heaven" difference mah - The ERP separating them already telling us something). :p

Newton & Novena many worth-while condos to look at, not cluttered at all. Any place also have some cluttered condos, e.g. Cyan and surrounding condos (Bellerive, Mandison, Ferrell Residences) when fully built up also will become very cluttered but still can sell at $2200 psf.

Tall thin condos? I like this! High floor, breezy, no mosquitoes, flies, flying insects etc, each floor only 3-4 neighbours (exclusive), neighbours cannot look into neighbouring units living room or bedrooms!
Nowsdays, there are just too many very cluttered new condos, each level spanning 6 & more units usually surrounding around the pool. No wonder different units can look into each other's living space (no privacy at all)! Not only that, all the big big planter areas, bay windows that buyers need to pay for it (but cannot use)... :doh:





Hi,
Have no issues with any of your comments or any other point of views-opinion was shared for the enquiring forumer, based on my personal experience, requirements and opinion living at the area for a long time; and within the constraints, trade offs, hence there will always be a downsides and conversely. Hence driving 10mins or more, slow but moving traffic, perhaps even higher ERP to improve things if it does, and with the future MRT the option of not driving to work-noting the ever decreasing nos of parking lots and increasing parking cost within the CBD are just part of the equation, which might be none issue, minor to some but major to others.

Floridian is a brand new project; and within the context of similar brand new project, expensive it may be, doubt for similar new projects you could get same price for Balmoral/Newton-FEO also, Cyan I think now asking $2200+ maybe more. And in addition Newton, Novena are referred to as home of the "needle" condos. ie very tall thin condos with hardly any land to speak of, cluttered and closed to each other, but again to each his own and within his means and acceptable trade-offs.

devilplate
18-05-10, 19:43
we shd be thankful to new launches...if not our condo prices cannot move up....haha:cheers1:

who will want to drive an old 'car' when new 'car' is almost the same price man...

for those prime areas...make more sense to get older resale if difference of more den 500psf from new launches. but for OCR, if only difference of 150-200psf, maybe better to get new project...bcoz a major reno may cost 100k

Wild Falcon
18-05-10, 23:46
Very sweet and dignified response to teddybear :). I like your style. Good luck for your search for your second home upstream in Upper Bukit timah/Jurong Kechil.


Hi,
Have no issues with any of your comments or any other point of views-opinion was shared for the enquiring forumer, based on my personal experience, requirements and opinion living at the area for a long time; and within the constraints, trade offs, hence there will always be a downsides and conversely. Hence driving 10mins or more, slow but moving traffic, perhaps even higher ERP to improve things if it does, and with the future MRT the option of not driving to work-noting the ever decreasing nos of parking lots and increasing parking cost within the CBD are just part of the equation, which might be none issue, minor to some but major to others.

Floridian is a brand new project; and within the context of similar brand new project, expensive it may be, doubt for similar new projects you could get same price for Balmoral/Newton-FEO also, Cyan I think now asking $2200+ maybe more. And in addition Newton, Novena are referred to as home of the "needle" condos. ie very tall thin condos with hardly any land to speak of, cluttered and closed to each other, but again to each his own and within his means and acceptable trade-offs.

teddybear
19-05-10, 00:05
Why $500psf difference for CCR old vs new?
Frankly speaking, to reno the whole place in CCR using branded goods also won't cost more than $200 psf.

For OCR, the reno won't cost more than $100 psf to restore to "brand new" interior condition.


we shd be thankful to new launches...if not our condo prices cannot move up....haha:cheers1:

who will want to drive an old 'car' when new 'car' is almost the same price man...

for those prime areas...make more sense to get older resale if difference of more den 500psf from new launches. but for OCR, if only difference of 150-200psf, maybe better to get new project...bcoz a major reno may cost 100k

satomilton
12-07-10, 14:31
Could you share your experience with me?

Learned that Floridian in past 2 months (coinciding w opening of Cascadia show flat) has sold several units. Guess it drew inevitable comparison btw Cascadia and all other develop in the region.

But question is this: as result some towers are now fully sold. Should a buyer be concerned that develop is fully sold with still 50% of the construction still to happen? Would fact that tower is fully sold reduce incentive for developer to go last extra mile to impress when top date comes?

Cheers!

satomilton
16-07-10, 09:44
Could you share your experience with me?

Learned that Floridian in past 2 months (coinciding w opening of Cascadia show flat) has sold several units. Guess it drew inevitable comparison btw Cascadia and all other develop in the region.

But question is this: as result some towers are now fully sold. Should a buyer be concerned that develop is fully sold with still 50% of the construction still to happen? Would fact that tower is fully sold reduce incentive for developer to go last extra mile to impress when top date comes?

Cheers!

wesing
16-07-10, 13:27
Could not understand exactly what you are asking. Probably that's why nobody has responded.

Anyway, Floridian sold 20 units in June 2010 while The Cascadia sold 38 units.

satomilton
16-07-10, 14:31
Sorry for less than clear question.

See, selected towers of Floridian are now fully sold. TOP is expected 2012 Q1.

Do you see possibility that , because towers are now fully sold, developer will not make construction as nice as to try expand margins (units sold anyway so not much incentive to make units "shine").

wesing
16-07-10, 15:20
I am of the opinion that FEO & Wing Tai would not behave in such unprofessional manner as to purposely slack in the building of this project since it already over 50% sold. They have a reputation (though not much of one for FEO) to protect, right?

satomilton
16-07-10, 16:03
Reputation should count. But have you ever heard of any situation like the one I described?

Since no one has seen an actual unit yet, developer can still built everything to meet specifications. But may not put all the attention and efforts to deliver a top notch property at the end.

Maybe it is just too much concern from a newbie as me...Tks!

wesing
16-07-10, 16:17
Well after buying the unit, we just have to trust the developer to do a good job as promised. Beyond our control if they don't but we could still hold back the last 15% (payable 12 months after TOP) if not satisfied with the final product.

That is why most people when purchasing a unit would always include the developer's reputation into the "whether to buy" equation. From the discussions I gathered from this forum, Wheelock, CDL, Wing Tai and Fraser-Centerpoint seems to rank high in this regard.

satomilton
16-07-10, 16:57
Makes sense. In terms of this development in particular, Floridian is JV with marketing by FEO and I think development by Wing Tai. So it is good to have Wing Tai along.

For projects completed top 2008 to 2010, do you reckon FEO still facing quality issues?

Tks a lot!

wesing
16-07-10, 17:02
I have never owned any FEO property. So could not comment. But based on what I gather in this forum and also heard elsewhere, most pple do not think highly of their projects.

Wild Falcon
17-07-10, 15:56
I think FEO properties are actually pretty good quality - just very expensive. I think FEO has greatly improved in the past 10 years. Far East usually don't scrimp on inside finishings - good italian marble etc. even for mass-market condos. The worst are the boutique developers.


I have never owned any FEO property. So could not comment. But based on what I gather in this forum and also heard elsewhere, most pple do not think highly of their projects.

Wild Falcon
17-07-10, 15:58
Wing Tai is the one who have balcony glass panel falling down - almost killing the residents.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/399749/1/.html
Makes sense. In terms of this development in particular, Floridian is JV with marketing by FEO and I think development by Wing Tai. So it is good to have Wing Tai along.

For projects completed top 2008 to 2010, do you reckon FEO still facing quality issues?

Tks a lot!

devilplate
17-07-10, 17:58
I have never owned any FEO property. So could not comment. But based on what I gather in this forum and also heard elsewhere, most pple do not think highly of their projects.

i owned a few FEO projects b4...their quality is alright and in fact better den those recently TOP projects...i dunwan to name them la:D

as i said, their price keep gg up and towards the final phase, those potential buyers will find the price too high to swallow and start to pick nitty gritty stuff to say...if sell u at good price, ppl wun be so bothered abt the furnishing liao:D

shauntanzs
17-07-10, 22:15
i am in the construction industry and i can tell u want u see for the finish is not what u actually get. Items like xxx brand kitchen stuff they marketed in their brochure, yes u get it. But other stuff like marble flooring etc, u only get look alike. To be fair, its not Feo fault, its the contractors fault to shrimp n save. And i am not going to name those contractors here.. But u always see them doing feo projects for a certain reason.

Wild Falcon
17-07-10, 23:32
I actually rank FEO above some other local developers nowadays. Shall not name names.


i am in the construction industry and i can tell u want u see for the finish is not what u actually get. Items like xxx brand kitchen stuff they marketed in their brochure, yes u get it. But other stuff like marble flooring etc, u only get look alike. To be fair, its not Feo fault, its the contractors fault to shrimp n save. And i am not going to name those contractors here.. But u always see them doing feo projects for a certain reason.

proud owner
18-07-10, 03:37
i am in the construction industry and i can tell u want u see for the finish is not what u actually get. Items like xxx brand kitchen stuff they marketed in their brochure, yes u get it. But other stuff like marble flooring etc, u only get look alike. To be fair, its not Feo fault, its the contractors fault to shrimp n save. And i am not going to name those contractors here.. But u always see them doing feo projects for a certain reason.

i know a pretty famous tile supplier .. who sell tiles to a very famous developer whose projects always sell out ... and set new record psf ...

i know he does, so do most developers ... give u high end appliances ( buy in bulk , so cheaper) but give you china tiles in toilets ..

so when u walk into this high end bathroom .. all you WOW about is the Grohe taps etc .. but check the tiles ... they are china tiles .. and not matching italian tiles ..

Wild Falcon
18-07-10, 15:13
I think I know which developer you're talking about. And this is one od the local developers that I will rank below Far East.

I think sometimes, people don't visit the actual units (showflats not counted) themselves and just condemn this or that developer based on hearsay from their grandparents. I have seen some Far East projects - just mass market - that has much better quality than other "high-end" listed developer projects (some of them listed above). Remember, always use your own judgement, visit more units and make your own choice. And always have an open mind. It varies project by project - but Far East has become quite good in recent years.


i know a pretty famous tile supplier .. who sell tiles to a very famous developer whose projects always sell out ... and set new record psf ...

i know he does, so do most developers ... give u high end appliances ( buy in bulk , so cheaper) but give you china tiles in toilets ..

so when u walk into this high end bathroom .. all you WOW about is the Grohe taps etc .. but check the tiles ... they are china tiles .. and not matching italian tiles ..

devilplate
18-07-10, 15:27
I think I know which developer you're talking about. And this is one od the local developers that I will rank below Far East.

I think sometimes, people don't visit the actual units (showflats not counted) themselves and just condemn this or that developer based on hearsay from their grandparents. I have seen some Far East projects - just mass market - that has much better quality than other "high-end" listed developer projects (some of them listed above). Remember, always use your own judgement, visit more units and make your own choice. And always have an open mind. It varies project by project - but Far East has become quite good in recent years.

i recently visited hillvista by FEO..quite impressed

1080psf for 5th flr ok anot ar? nice unblock view and no balcony...minimum wastage...

satomilton
19-07-10, 15:31
As we continue talking about developers, one thing that needs resolution asap is flooding at tessarina

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_555014.html

see pics at the bottom of page.

if not fixed quickly, bukit timah area might get tagged as flooding prone area for good.....:(

satomilton
19-07-10, 15:32
btw, Maplewoods had zerp issues with flooding....whats up w Tessarina ???

august
19-07-10, 15:48
i recently visited hillvista by FEO..quite impressed

1080psf for 5th flr ok anot ar? nice unblock view and no balcony...minimum wastage...

after terrene's 1250psf suddenly Hillvista seems acceptable ~

did u see park natura? is imo at a better location than hillvista

devilplate
19-07-10, 16:11
after terrene's 1250psf suddenly Hillvista seems acceptable ~

did u see park natura? is imo at a better location than hillvista

err..nvr visit park natura b4...jus did a chk over the internet...feel tat hillvista better...the layout at hillvista really efficient and functional with min wastage...baywindows also not as wide as those newly TOP projects...:D

prices similar... hillvista nearer to future MRT, unblock views, and nicer address without HDB stigma...lol:D

august
19-07-10, 16:23
err..nvr visit park natura b4...jus did a chk over the internet...feel tat hillvista better...the layout at hillvista really efficient and functional with min wastage...baywindows also not as wide as those newly TOP projects...:D

prices similar... hillvista nearer to future MRT, unblock views, and nicer address without HDB stigma...lol:D
nearest mrt for natura will be the beauty world station.. nearest for hillvista should be the cashew one, i think natura is better in this aspect already. Also natura opposite is greenery not built up condos ~

just sharing some thoughts lah :o



edit: yes natura cheaper too ~

devilplate
19-07-10, 16:25
nearest mrt for natura will be the beauty world station.. nearest for hillvista should be the cashew one, i think natura is better in this aspect already. Also natura opposite is greenery not built up condos ~

just sharing some thoughts lah :o

ya..no worries...

but hor: 3bedder in hillvista ard 1.2xmil and natura ard 1.5mil asking now...tats another consideration too

btw, hillvista one side facing condo...another side facing unblock greenary too...but duno wil be block in future anot..FEO agt say will be building NEWATER underground just opposite hillvista open green field.

i saw one 1.4xmil for natura..cheapest unit? tink so

satomilton
20-07-10, 00:29
Hi

Could you offer thoughts on why Floridian sets itself apart from other condos in that particular stretch of B. T. ?

Myself find interesting fact it's not facing busy road,
Good floor plan and the 7 Pools.

Not so good would be price and location not so close to mrt.

cashrich
20-07-10, 07:39
lol, near mrt. newer and better.

livenlove
20-07-10, 11:39
Nicer address: when I saw the place sometime ago, agent pointed out your address would be no 1 Elizabeth Drive (as in QE?). I suppose this could matter a lot to some people and not to others who don't require this to be validated.
I remember that land was quite small (approx 80,000sg ft if I remember correctly) with small pool, units were also relatively small compared with park natura (which is on a huge piece of freehold land): I supposed quantum would be cheaper. Still saw some remnants of what appear to be light industrial area.



err..nvr visit park natura b4...jus did a chk over the internet...feel tat hillvista better...the layout at hillvista really efficient and functional with min wastage...baywindows also not as wide as those newly TOP projects...:D

prices similar... hillvista nearer to future MRT, unblock views, and nicer address without HDB stigma...lol:D

devilplate
20-07-10, 11:49
Nicer address: when I saw the place sometime ago, agent pointed out your address would be no 1 Elizabeth Drive (as in QE?). I suppose this could matter a lot to some people and not to others who don't require this to be validated.
I remember that land was quite small (approx 80,000sg ft if I remember correctly) with small pool, units were also relatively small compared with park natura (which is on a huge piece of freehold land): I supposed quantum would be cheaper. Still saw some remnants of what appear to be light industrial area.

agree....the poolsize of hillvista barely meet my min requirement:D

i was actually commenting the pool so small in front of the agt...she say its sufficient for 100+units...well...listen to such reasoning till i :sleep: oredi:D

anyway, just duno y...the feeling is good when i visit their completed units on the ground flr. luckily i din bring my chq bk along tat day:D

cashrich
20-07-10, 11:57
This is one of their better ones in terms of sales result.
84 out of 127 sold. Quite good in view of the asking price.. 66%

In deciding which FEO projects to buy, look for FEO projects with better take up rates.... they will give you a better chance of making some money. May not always big bucks but well, at least you gain some and with a high chance of success...

In all other projects.... the best take up rates (completely sold ones) are the best bet to win. Even those are not guaranteed to be winners but they have a very high chance of success... get it?

The address is crap lah. Might as well name the project, Queen's Palace together with no 1 Elizabeth... then it will be Queen Elizabeth Palace at Bukit time liao.

:banghead:

satomilton
20-07-10, 14:47
Floridian show flat quite packed in past 2 months upon launching of Cascadia. It seems from Apr to June about 50 units sold noted my agent.

livenlove
20-07-10, 15:27
Thanks for the update. Just curious whats your take.
Last time I saw the place, maybe early this year, was quoted around $1500+ psf for a upper floor pool facing unit of approx 1400qft 3brm. Thought it was on the expensive side at that time. Has the price moved, are better units being released or is there becoming acceptance of high/higher prices.



Floridian show flat quite packed in past 2 months upon launching of Cascadia. It seems from Apr to June about 50 units sold noted my agent.

satomilton
21-07-10, 09:26
In past 2 months they started sales of new towers which are considered premium ones. That may also explained reason for uptrend in prices , as units sold were from these more expensive towers.

3bdrm 1650 sqr feet last 2 transactions were in the 1526 and 1511 psf range (upper floors).

The 2 bedroom900 sqr ft last 2 transactions were 1758 psf and 1672 psf (6 and 7th floors).

But most impressive to me was the May 10 transaction of 4bdroom 1850 sqrft at 1707 psf (3rd floor). Thats a $3.2 mil unit!

Cheers,



Thanks for the update. Just curious whats your take.
Last time I saw the place, maybe early this year, was quoted around $1500+ psf for a upper floor pool facing unit of approx 1400qft 3brm. Thought it was on the expensive side at that time. Has the price moved, are better units being released or is there becoming acceptance of high/higher prices.

satomilton
22-07-10, 11:23
latest transaction posted today:

psf sqr ft $total sale date
$1,680 1851 $3110k 23-Jun-10

livenlove
22-07-10, 14:33
Tks for update.
Wow now so bullish for this area and this condo. Perhaps Cascadia a bit of a dissapointment and Terrene furhter up already quite close to it in $.
3rd quater last year this price was for another FEO project at Cyan near Balmoral for a 1550sqft 3brm unit.
Prices are moving quite fast it seems-humm?


latest transaction posted today:

psf sqr ft $total sale date
$1,680 1851 $3110k 23-Jun-10

satomilton
22-07-10, 15:57
Besides overall strenght in the property mkt in Singapore, I think there is also another factor in play for Floridian. FEO was still not selling their marked premium towers and units. They have started to do so no. These premium units have a steeper list price.



Tks for update.
Wow now so bullish for this area and this condo. Perhaps Cascadia a bit of a dissapointment and Terrene furhter up already quite close to it in $.
3rd quater last year this price was for another FEO project at Cyan near Balmoral for a 1550sqft 3brm unit.
Prices are moving quite fast it seems-humm?

devilplate
22-07-10, 16:08
FEO too rich!

too much cash....slowly sell:D

wesing
22-07-10, 16:12
Tks for update.
Wow now so bullish for this area and this condo. Perhaps Cascadia a bit of a dissapointment and Terrene furhter up already quite close to it in $.
3rd quater last year this price was for another FEO project at Cyan near Balmoral for a 1550sqft 3brm unit.
Prices are moving quite fast it seems-humm?

In May 2009, I was quoted by FEO around $1,170-1,180 psf for a couple of 2-bedder (between 840-893 sq ft) facing Nexus. Found it to be expensive then.

Now it is $1,600 psf and for big units somemore:scared-1: :scared-1: :scared-1: . If smart and bought it then, 米桶 already man:banghead: :banghead:

devilplate
22-07-10, 17:02
In May 2009, I was quoted by FEO around $1,170-1,180 psf for a couple of 2-bedder (between 840-893 sq ft) facing Nexus. Found it to be expensive then.

Now it is $1,600 psf and for big units somemore:scared-1: :scared-1: :scared-1: . If smart and bought it then, 米桶 already man:banghead: :banghead:

tats y we shdnt avoid all FEO projects...if enter their projects at right timing...they easily push up ur valuations later on:D

so many past examples oredi

cashrich
22-07-10, 17:42
see....

it doesn't matter which developer, what quality, what design, what location, as long as you can sell to the next buyer at a higher price.

No logic needed, just need a sharp eye to chose correctly. LH FH WTF!

wesing
23-07-10, 09:06
Just received an e-mail from FEO that choice 2+study apartments (904 to 958 sq ft) available for sale from around $1,600 psf:doh: :doh: :doh:

satomilton
24-07-10, 15:50
FEO can ask any price they want, its up to buyers decide which price to accept . at the end the mkt rate prevails .

if FEO has been able to consistently push up prices towards end of their marketing campain , that s good for them and for those who bought at early stages. And for sure something other developers will want to try to follow.




tats y we shdnt avoid all FEO projects...if enter their projects at right timing...they easily push up ur valuations later on:D

so many past examples oredi

satomilton
03-08-10, 15:31
made some calculations to see price trend. taking last 15 transactions( why 15? no reason , besides trying to smooth avg out).

stands now at 1605 psf including all sales (2,3 and 4 bdrm).

last transacted:
address/psf/area sqft/quantum/sale date
977 Bukit Timah Road #06-33 Freehold $1,758 904 $1589k 29-Jun-10
969 Bukit Timah Road #10-17 Freehold $1,590 1679 $2670k 30-Jun-10
969 Bukit Timah Road #10-16 Freehold $1,595 1658 $2644k 6-Jul-10
977 Bukit Timah Road #08-33 Freehold $1,785 926 $1652k 12-Jul-10

jencrs
03-08-10, 17:38
Sorry ah, I don't really keep track of Floridian prices. So is this trending up or down?

devilplate
03-08-10, 17:47
made some calculations to see price trend. taking last 15 transactions( why 15? no reason , besides trying to smooth avg out).

stands now at 1605 psf including all sales (2,3 and 4 bdrm).

last transacted:
address/psf/area sqft/quantum/sale date
977 Bukit Timah Road #06-33 Freehold $1,758 904 $1589k 29-Jun-10
969 Bukit Timah Road #10-17 Freehold $1,590 1679 $2670k 30-Jun-10
969 Bukit Timah Road #10-16 Freehold $1,595 1658 $2644k 6-Jul-10
977 Bukit Timah Road #08-33 Freehold $1,785 926 $1652k 12-Jul-10

WOW! 1785psf !:D

Mongoose
03-08-10, 23:33
WOW! 1785psf !:D

based on such prices, no wonder terrene can fetch 1300psf.
Floridian really setting the market prices here.
Still got upside?

satomilton
04-08-10, 10:33
Sorry ah, I don't really keep track of Floridian prices. So is this trending up or down?

Hi,

pulling from transacted prices, the trend is as follows for average prices:
June 09- 1220 psf
Dec 09- 1375 psf
May 10- 1550 psf

satomilton
04-08-10, 10:41
based on such prices, no wonder terrene can fetch 1300psf.
Floridian really setting the market prices here.
Still got upside?

Hi,

It seems about 90-100 units left for sale out of 336 ttl. Since most of these units left are the "premium" ones, think upside is there just because these are units with special features. But also developer just started selling the premium tower facing main pool. These are huge 4+1 units 2400 srft I think. So psf might come down because of that.

Also interesting to see how willing FEO will be to sell remainder inventory at lower bids or just hold them til TOP (end 2011).

Let me know if you see it differently :)

satomilton
14-08-10, 07:50
Wow, just saw in recent transactions:
Address
Tenure
PSF
Area Sqft
Price
Contract Date
971 Bukit Timah Road #10-22
Freehold
$1846
2239
$4133k
15 Jul 10

BB
14-08-10, 09:42
Hi,

pulling from transacted prices, the trend is as follows for average prices:
June 09- 1220 psf
Dec 09- 1375 psf
May 10- 1550 psf

The recent massive flood at Bukit Timah Road may have an impact on the pricing. The worst hit will be Tessarina. Floridian will not be flooded as it is on high ground but people staying there will have a problem to go out via Bukit Timah Road (the only way out).

satomilton
14-08-10, 11:48
Hi I have been living at maplewoods for past 3 months. Acess from Floridian will be similar. Really no issues found.

To go out to Bukit Timah is fine . Also plus is fact we can avoid Bukit timah altogether by turning first left on Blackmore rd to old Holland Rd . Or take 2nd left to Clementi rd to AYE.

I normally use bukit timah on weekends and use old holland road on weekdays.

Floods- In the vicinity, talking to friends at Nexus, Blossomvale , Casa Esperanza, no floods reported there. Also I can give personal "testemony" that no issues at Maplewoods as well.

Attractiveness of the area- wish was not that high. Putting my daughter through primary one registration this yr was quite a challenge as schools in BT area have hit record applicants for 1 and 2 click. (See MOE stats).


The recent massive flood at Bukit Timah Road may have an impact on the pricing. The worst hit will be Tessarina. Floridian will not be flooded as it is on high ground but people staying there will have a problem to go out via Bukit Timah Road (the only way out).

satomilton
14-08-10, 12:04
Hi I have been living at maplewoods for past 3 months. Acess from Floridian will be similar. Really no issues found.

To go out to Bukit Timah is fine . Also, a big plus is fact we can avoid Bukit timah altogether by turning first left on Blackmore rd to old Holland Rd . Or take 2nd left to Clementi rd to AYE. That will be important to me in future when mrt digging at bukit timah starts full swing.

I normally use bukit timah on weekends and use old holland road on weekdays.

Floods- In the vicinity, talking to friends at Nexus, Blossomvale , Casa Esperanza, no floods reported there. Also I can give personal "testemony" that no issues at Maplewoods as well.

Attractiveness of the area- wish was not that high. Putting my daughter through primary one registration this yr was quite a challenge as schools in BT area have hit record applicants for 1 and 2 click. (See MOE stats).



The recent massive flood at Bukit Timah Road may have an impact on the pricing. The worst hit will be Tessarina. Floridian will not be flooded as it is on high ground but people staying there will have a problem to go out via Bukit Timah Road (the only way out).

satomilton
18-08-10, 14:48
$4.1 million for a 2200 sqrft unit. = $1846 psf


971 Bukit Timah Road #10-22
Freehold $1,846 2239 $4133k 15-Jul-10

satomilton
13-10-10, 16:14
977 Bukit Timah Road #04-32 Freehold $1,839 2357 $4334k 2-Sep-10

sltc
27-02-11, 19:54
967 Bukit Timah Road #0X-12
Freehold
$1902psf
1830
$3480k
06 Jan 11:doh:
Really amazing price for Floridian !!! The landscaping is nice and the showflat (moved into the actual unit) is impressive, probably why people are willing to pay the high price for this condo.

ymgsterling
27-02-11, 20:09
967 Bukit Timah Road #0X-12
Freehold
$1902psf
1830
$3480k
06 Jan 11:doh:
Really amazing price for Floridian !!! The landscaping is nice and the showflat (moved into the actual unit) is impressive, probably why people are willing to pay the high price for this condo.

Wonder such pricing would bring up the pricing for near by projects?
The secondary market should be transacting in excess of $1,400psf?

sltc
28-02-11, 21:03
Wonder such pricing would bring up the pricing for near by projects?
The secondary market should be transacting in excess of $1,400psf?
I think prices will stay status quo until the bukit timah MRT line is up and running by 2015. If there is a correction, it will be good time to pick up property there before the MRT is ready. Also wonder what's the plan for the old turf club......quite big piece of land....anyone has any insight ?

laidback
28-02-11, 22:35
I think prices will stay status quo until the bukit timah MRT line is up and running by 2015. If there is a correction, it will be good time to pick up property there before the MRT is ready. Also wonder what's the plan for the old turf club......quite big piece of land....anyone has any insight ?

It's zoned for residential use but I understand there are calls for part of the land to be used for sports.

land118
28-02-11, 23:27
It's zoned for residential use but I understand there are calls for part of the land to be used for sports.
Yes, URA master plan 2008 only say residential subject to detail planning..., URA master plan get review every 5 years, mean next review, update is only in 2013...., very big piece, can be a new commercial cum residential hub..., throw in some sports venue also can...massive plot

sltc
01-03-11, 21:48
Yes, URA master plan 2008 only say residential subject to detail planning..., URA master plan get review every 5 years, mean next review, update is only in 2013...., very big piece, can be a new commercial cum residential hub..., throw in some sports venue also can...massive plot
If it's really a commercial cum residential or mini sports hub, with the upcoming MRT line plus existing good schools, I think bukit timah has very good upside potential in the near future. Also heard rumour that there will be a new shopping mall coming up above the Beauty World MRT station in future......

land118
02-03-11, 08:52
If it's really a commercial cum residential or mini sports hub, with the upcoming MRT line plus existing good schools, I think bukit timah has very good upside potential in the near future. Also heard rumour that there will be a new shopping mall coming up above the Beauty World MRT station in future...... Not surprising about shopping mall above MRT station, seem to be part of government planning to incorporate commerical next to or near MRT station, make economic sense...

satomilton
16-06-11, 15:17
Price Area Psf
3,571,400 1,830 1,952 11-May

amk
16-06-11, 15:27
it's #10-12 highest floor. #09-12 is at $1895 psf. FEO's strategy is good. sell slowly. someone somehow will bite.

CCR
17-06-11, 05:21
Price Area Psf
3,571,400 1,830 1,952 11-May

A bit high to pay so much for D21

satomilton
04-07-11, 14:40
:scared-5: Even considering some voucher discount (maybe 5%?) after top..1.900 psf is rather impressive

FLORIDIAN BUKIT TIMAH ROAD Condominium 1 3,170,300 1,658 Strata 1,913 Jun-11

ymgsterling
04-07-11, 15:10
:scared-5: Even considering some voucher discount (maybe 5%?) after top..1.900 psf is rather impressive

FLORIDIAN BUKIT TIMAH ROAD Condominium 1 3,170,300 1,658 Strata 1,913 Jun-11

Just wonder how FEO managed to sell at such price?

bricksnmortar
10-07-11, 00:33
Yup, They have strong marketing. But those who know wouldn't buy from them. Always overpriced and not good long lasting quality.

devilplate
10-07-11, 00:39
Always overpriced and not good long lasting quality.

I totally disagree:tongue3:

Some feo projects can buy but only during very first day of preview and their recent TOP projects exceed my expectations:D :spliff: :cheers6:

Feo got the best n efficient layout generally too! No oversized balcony n ac ledge

mygeemeel
16-07-11, 08:24
Can anyone do a comparison between Floridian and Cascadia? I have only seen actual unit at Cascadia but not showflat for Floridian.

When is Floridian's TOP?

I am thinking of getting a 2 br unit. Appreciate your inputs.

Rysk
16-07-11, 10:17
:scared-5: Even considering some voucher discount (maybe 5%?) after top..1.900 psf is rather impressive

FLORIDIAN BUKIT TIMAH ROAD Condominium 1 3,170,300 1,658 Strata 1,913 Jun-11

Wow!! at $1913psf for big unit.. is the kind of psf of D10 (eg. Cyan) & D11 (eg. Newton Suites, Newton One)..

kingkong1984
16-07-11, 10:23
They can always play musical chair.... Can therefore sell their left over units.

mygeemeel
21-07-11, 15:07
Anyone took photos of the showflats? I saw the fittings and fixtures in other Far East projects and found the quality quite good. I always thought FEO projects only have MSCP and lousy materials.

Anyone here bought Floridian? Share your inputs ok? :)

satomilton
19-08-11, 22:42
was told by far east org mkt guy.

Makes sense as show flat already closed at the location.

mygeemeel
19-08-11, 23:22
Showflat still open for viewing at least when I went there last week. I find it quite nice.

jonleelk
21-08-11, 11:28
Floridian showflat at Floridian is closed. It is now located at Cyan's showflat location.

sltc
18-09-11, 11:19
Just visited Floridian showflat yesterday. They have a 4 bedroom showflat on site. 60% lanscaping & 40% residential. Beautiful landscaping with 7 pools. Nice ! This project is ~90% sold ! The remaining units are premium units with 4 and 4+1 room. FEO selling at ~$1800psf !!! I think they're selling these units to foreigners. Met a group of investors from China at the lift lobby. Gym is a little bit small but the club house is very well equipped. Very good for hosting guests.Worth visiting the showflat to take a look. I think TOP should be ~1Q12.

DC33_2008
18-09-11, 13:51
This place seems to be selling for a long while. FEO is really good.
Just visited Floridian showflat yesterday. They have a 4 bedroom showflat on site. 60% lanscaping & 40% residential. Beautiful landscaping with 7 pools. Nice ! This project is ~90% sold ! The remaining units are premium units with 4 and 4+1 room. FEO selling at ~$1800psf !!! I think they're selling these units to foreigners. Met a group of investors from China at the lift lobby. Gym is a little bit small but the club house is very well equipped. Very good for hosting guests.Worth visiting the showflat to take a look. I think TOP should be ~1Q12.

evergreen
18-09-11, 23:18
Just visited Floridian showflat yesterday. They have a 4 bedroom showflat on site. 60% lanscaping & 40% residential. Beautiful landscaping with 7 pools. Nice ! This project is ~90% sold ! The remaining units are premium units with 4 and 4+1 room. FEO selling at ~$1800psf !!! I think they're selling these units to foreigners. Met a group of investors from China at the lift lobby. Gym is a little bit small but the club house is very well equipped. Very good for hosting guests.Worth visiting the showflat to take a look. I think TOP should be ~1Q12.

For that price, most Singaporeans would rather buy landed.

I visited a unit onsite before they closed it.
There is indoor dining rooms with kitchen on ground floor you can book to entertain guests too. Jogging track is a good idea too. I agree that it's very nice. I can see why FEO can sell at that price.


Anyone took photos of the showflats? I saw the fittings and fixtures in other Far East projects and found the quality quite good. I always thought FEO projects only have MSCP and lousy materials.

Anyone here bought Floridian? Share your inputs ok? :)

Ikea quality wardrobe for common bedrooms. Glass wardrobes in master bedroom are not tempered glass - will shatter if broken. Marble flooring at Jardin actual unit was cracked.

satomilton
06-10-11, 22:49
FLORIDIAN* BUKIT TIMAH ROAD Condominium 1 4,410,000 2,357 Strata 1,871 Aug-11

satomilton
10-10-11, 07:49
I totally disagree:tongue3:

Some feo projects can buy but only during very first day of preview and their recent TOP projects exceed my expectations:D :spliff: :cheers6:

Feo got the best n efficient layout generally too! No oversized balcony n ac ledge

Hi devilplate,

Wonder if you know way to see unit # of last transactions. In past was able to use street sine but know only subscribers can have access to it.

Ask this because you seem to be very experienced in this industry.

Cheers

Lovelle
10-10-11, 10:40
For that price, most Singaporeans would rather buy landed.

I visited a unit onsite before they closed it.
There is indoor dining rooms with kitchen on ground floor you can book to entertain guests too. Jogging track is a good idea too. I agree that it's very nice. I can see why FEO can sell at that price.



Ikea quality wardrobe for common bedrooms. Glass wardrobes in master bedroom are not tempered glass - will shatter if broken. Marble flooring at Jardin actual unit was cracked.

60% landscaping, i suspect maintenance fee could be as high as $500 a mth or more. But then to owner of Flordian is a small change.

mygeemeel
10-10-11, 12:09
60% landscaping, i suspect maintenance fee could be as high as $500 a mth or more. But then to owner of Flordian is a small change.

$300 for small units, $500~600 for larger units.

satomilton
05-01-12, 10:57
as informed by FEO customer service.

Also colleague bought jardin was informed TOP same timeframe.

richie$$$
07-04-12, 18:46
TOP oredi?
336 units

mygeemeel
07-04-12, 20:29
TOP oredi?
336 units

Drove past a few times. Saw Jardin and Floridian received TOP. But both being opposite to each other, the price at Jardin is so high. Don't know why.

sltc
08-04-12, 11:22
Drove past a few times. Saw Jardin and Floridian received TOP. But both being opposite to each other, the price at Jardin is so high. Don't know why.
Have seen both showflat. Both are nice with good quality finishing. Hope to get a unit there but price is steep. With the upcoming The Grandstand mall and MRT DTL2, it will be good for Bukit Timah I think.....FEO has good foresight and has already factored in these upcoming amenities into their prices.......

roly8
17-04-12, 10:34
what is Grandstand mall?

sltc
17-04-12, 20:06
what is Grandstand mall?
Checkout the link below on details about The Grandstand at the turf city.
http://singaporerealestatearena.com/the-grandstand-turf-city/

roly8
17-04-12, 22:06
Checkout the link below on details about The Grandstand at the turf city.
http://singaporerealestatearena.com/the-grandstand-turf-city/

wa.. alot of makan there.. :D

mygeemeel
18-04-12, 00:35
Anyone know how many levels of commercial or residential can king Albert park be after redevelopment with a plot ratio 3?

bensonkoh
20-04-12, 06:56
Anyone know how many levels of commercial or residential can king Albert park be after redevelopment with a plot ratio 3?

Basically any highest possible buildings could be done with plot ratio 3, but most of the times such buildings are restricted by height restriction :)

vince.toh70
22-04-12, 13:55
Basically any highest possible buildings could be done with plot ratio 3, but most of the times such buildings are restricted by height restriction :)

Along Bukit Timah road should be 10 storey max?

mygeemeel
22-04-12, 14:46
Along Bukit Timah road should be 10 storey max?

Neighboring condos are 10 storey. Currently 2-3 storey. So could be good for this area if they build more retail shops. The beauty world malls are just too old.

alwaysgreener
11-05-12, 20:01
At a meeting I attended several weeks ago where FEO, China Con etc. in attendance; they were giddy that they had unloaded a few Floridian units recently. The impression I was left with, was that this has turned into a very tough sell and they were afraid of getting stuck with a lot of unsold inventory.


<disclaimer - I have no financial interest in the above-mentioned property, nor in the firms involved in its development>

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