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xtreme_46
12-06-13, 15:27
yesterday I view one project then I went to the car park saw one bicycle in parking lot..then I ask the owne...the owner say cos that guy(bicycle owner) no car so he use bicycle to 'chop' parking lot..can like that?

proud owner
12-06-13, 15:33
yesterday I view one project then I went to the car park saw one bicycle in parking lot..then I ask the owne...the owner say cos that guy(bicycle owner) no car so he use bicycle to 'chop' parking lot..can like that?


must be Singaporean right ?

he will argue that it is his entitlement to a lot ..

in my condo .. I know 1 family has a motorbike and a car..

he parks his car slight out ..and park his bike behind the car ..

so far no one complain

xtreme_46
12-06-13, 15:40
must be Singaporean right ?

he will argue that it is his entitlement to a lot ..

in my condo .. I know 1 family has a motorbike and a car..

he parks his car slight out ..and park his bike behind the car ..

so far no one complain

don't know..should be..but if u use bicycle to occupy parking lot..the MC allow?

sherlock
12-06-13, 15:44
yesterday I view one project then I went to the car park saw one bicycle in parking lot..then I ask the owne...the owner say cos that guy(bicycle owner) no car so he use bicycle to 'chop' parking lot..can like that?
And if that owner no washing machine how? Make a guess... :scared-1:

xtreme_46
12-06-13, 15:53
And if that owner no washing machine how? Make a guess... :scared-1:

use swimming pool to wash clothes

leesg123
12-06-13, 16:21
yesterday I view one project then I went to the car park saw one bicycle in parking lot..then I ask the owne...the owner say cos that guy(bicycle owner) no car so he use bicycle to 'chop' parking lot..can like that?It is legitimate if number of units = number parking lots. Unless the MC can GUARANTEE that the owner will ALWAYS have 1 lot available ANYTIME he needs it.

radha08
12-06-13, 16:50
must be Singaporean right ?

he will argue that it is his entitlement to a lot ..

in my condo .. I know 1 family has a motorbike and a car..

he parks his car slight out ..and park his bike behind the car ..

so far no one complain

Kiasu (Chinese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_characters): 驚輸; Pe̍h-ōe-jī (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe%CC%8Dh-%C5%8De-j%C4%AB): kiaⁿ-su) is a Hokkien (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokkien) word that literally means 'fear of losing' (Vernacular Chinese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernacular_Chinese): 怕输). However its actual usage would imply a meaning more approaching that of "dog in a manger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dog_in_the_Manger)", and yet not quite (Landon Mossburg). Examples of kiasu behaviour includes accumulating too much food on one's plate during a buffet lunch in case there is no more food later or joining a queue many days in advance just to ensure that one successfully gets hold of the limited free tickets to events, promotions and shows such as Singapore's annual National Day Parade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Day_Parade).


we are singapore:doh:

leesg123
12-06-13, 16:56
must be Singaporean right ?

he will argue that it is his entitlement to a lot ..

in my condo .. I know 1 family has a motorbike and a car..

he parks his car slight out ..and park his bike behind the car ..

so far no one complainThis one more kiasu or the family that owns two car and occupy two lots is more kiasu and horrible?:tsk-tsk:

Arcachon
12-06-13, 18:47
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ysyap
12-06-13, 20:34
This one more kiasu or the family that owns two car and occupy two lots is more kiasu and horrible?:tsk-tsk:Owning 2 cars and parking them in the lots is not kiasu... its more chao kuan if the owner does not have permission from MC to do so. Coming back to the issue... I think bicycles are not meant for the parking lots. He cannot leave the bicycle there. MC by laws should cover this, right?

dare2
12-06-13, 21:39
Are there provision for Motorbikes lot in condos?

ysyap
12-06-13, 22:12
Are there provision for Motorbikes lot in condos?I believe most if not all condos in Singapore must have provisions for Motobikes lots... :)

kane
12-06-13, 23:16
is this cluster where the parking is in front of his unit? if not, isn't it non designated lot and can't you just move the bicycle one side and park into the lot? Anyway, there should be bicycle bays for them to park no?

thomastansb
12-06-13, 23:22
If no one complain, ok la.

But if many people complain, then go to AGM, the other owners can vote and ban the owner from parking his bicycle there. Don't forget, condo is shared. The bigger your share, the more power you have. Same like corporate.

Worst case scenario, they can force you to sell your unit by court order.





yesterday I view one project then I went to the car park saw one bicycle in parking lot..then I ask the owne...the owner say cos that guy(bicycle owner) no car so he use bicycle to 'chop' parking lot..can like that?

jonathann80
13-06-13, 02:04
whats the average rental rate of a parking lot to another home owner if the family does not own a car?

hyenergix
13-06-13, 02:12
Is this okay? :confused:

http://imageshack.us/scaled/large/827/20120706131503.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/20120706131503.jpg/)

dare2
13-06-13, 07:05
Is this okay? :confused:

http://imageshack.us/scaled/large/827/20120706131503.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/20120706131503.jpg/)


...they should get sticker lady to help them imprint their grandfathers' name on the road......

alamak
13-06-13, 08:12
Kiasu (Chinese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_characters): 驚輸; Pe̍h-ōe-jī (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe%CC%8Dh-%C5%8De-j%C4%AB): kiaⁿ-su) is a Hokkien (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokkien) word that literally means 'fear of losing' (Vernacular Chinese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernacular_Chinese): 怕输). However its actual usage would imply a meaning more approaching that of "dog in a manger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dog_in_the_Manger)", and yet not quite (Landon Mossburg). Examples of kiasu behaviour includes accumulating too much food on one's plate during a buffet lunch in case there is no more food later or joining a queue many days in advance just to ensure that one successfully gets hold of the limited free tickets to events, promotions and shows such as Singapore's annual National Day Parade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Day_Parade).


we are singapore:doh:

PLease Lah !! These kiasu and kiasee traits are not just unique to us. It is common traits and symptomic sigh of all competitive economies on earth .. be it american, koreans, russians, chinese , aussies ...jyou need to be immerse in their culture to see it ..

alamak
13-06-13, 08:15
I believe most if not all condos in Singapore must have provisions for Motobikes lots... :)
Most apartment status will not have space .. sizeable condos can make space but then not many have motorcycle leh .. if motorcycle ..owners paiseh they think they make their condo/apartment more like HDB status leh :doh:

ysyap
13-06-13, 08:19
Most apartment status will not have space .. sizeable condos can make space but then not many have motorcycle leh .. if motorcycle ..owners paiseh they think they make their condo/apartment more like HDB status leh :doh:True but if the bike is Harley, then different lah! Status also quite atas de but super noisy leh... will slowly get complaints... :)

ysyap
13-06-13, 08:44
Is this okay? :confused:

http://imageshack.us/scaled/large/827/20120706131503.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/20120706131503.jpg/)I was given the parking summon for parking at single white line because there was no available parking space which were used up by dustbins, cones, etc. :doh:

eng81157
13-06-13, 08:49
yesterday I view one project then I went to the car park saw one bicycle in parking lot..then I ask the owne...the owner say cos that guy(bicycle owner) no car so he use bicycle to 'chop' parking lot..can like that?

wah piang, must be a singaporean - kiasu mentality

kane
13-06-13, 09:07
It's a public road. They can place their chairs there and you can move it. The land that belongs to them where you can't park is their own driveway.

freesoul
13-06-13, 09:40
:doh: horrible

ysyap
13-06-13, 11:38
It's a public road. They can place their chairs there and you can move it. The land that belongs to them where you can't park is their own driveway.Yup.. you can move the cones and then leave your unprotected car there, risking being scratched, etc.. these landed property owners have to strange and weird belief that that stretch of public road belongs to them... once I wanted to park my car outside this landed house and as I was adjusting my car, the house owner came out and asked me to move further away... :doh: :hell-hath-no-fury: :mad:

kane
13-06-13, 12:12
You'll move further away after your appt. Haha.

And you can in front of the home owner turn on and fiddle with your 360 degrees spy cam installed in your car.

ysyap
13-06-13, 13:24
You'll move further away after your appt. Haha.

And you can in front of the home owner turn on and fiddle with your 360 degrees spy cam installed in your car.That will keep the house owner on his toes... take out your cherry and put it on top of your car as you go for your appointment!

BigBoy
13-06-13, 17:18
whats the average rental rate of a parking lot to another home owner if the family does not own a car?
Is this allowed?

radha08
14-06-13, 05:26
PLease Lah !! These kiasu and kiasee traits are not just unique to us. It is common traits and symptomic sigh of all competitive economies on earth .. be it american, koreans, russians, chinese , aussies ...jyou need to be immerse in their culture to see it ..

we should be proud we INVENTED the term kiasu

ysyap
14-06-13, 06:43
Is this allowed?Of course not lah!

dare2
14-06-13, 06:54
Is this allowed?
..you need to register your car as as a owner in the condo with your car log card ....for carpark privilege....so technically a bicycle cannot be registered as there is no official registry for bicycle.

hyenergix
14-06-13, 07:25
I was given the parking summon for parking at single white line because there was no available parking space which were used up by dustbins, cones, etc. :doh:

Obviously these are ugly landed property owners' behaviour. I'm quite surprised that LTA is not clamping down on such practices. If you stay in HDB or (many) condos, you have to pay for the extra parking lot, but if you stay in landed, the entire stretch is free for you to park and you can even reserve "your" favorite parking lot.

ysyap
14-06-13, 09:27
Obviously these are ugly landed property owners' behaviour. I'm quite surprised that LTA is not clamping down on such practices. If you stay in HDB or (many) condos, you have to pay for the extra parking lot, but if you stay in landed, the entire stretch is free for you to park and you can even reserve "your" favorite parking lot.Good thing I was adamant of my constraints and wrote in to URA with photos to explain that I should not be fined for my offense because there is a more fundamental problem they are not addressing. In the end, my fine was waived. However, I do not see any improvement to such situations. Frankly, who will police this effort? Traffic Police or parking warden from URA/HDB? There is no designated office to look into this. Only upon receiving complaints will the traffic police be activated. Hmmm...

proud owner
14-06-13, 11:40
Is this okay? :confused:

http://imageshack.us/scaled/large/827/20120706131503.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/20120706131503.jpg/)




this is definitely wrong


cos the landed owner there DONT pay for the space across their house ...

if I was LTA .. I will issue summon tickets to the owner of the stools

hopeful
14-06-13, 12:13
this is definitely wrong


cos the landed owner there DONT pay for the space across their house ...

if I was LTA .. I will issue summon tickets to the owner of the stools
ok you call LTA.
i call NEA for illegal dumping, ie improper disposal of plastic waste.
i need somebody to call the tv station to record the ensuing quarrels with neighbours when i attempt to bring the free stools back to my house.

wsx123
14-06-13, 13:02
ok you call LTA.
i call NEA for illegal dumping, ie improper disposal of plastic waste.
i need somebody to call the tv station to record the ensuing quarrels with neighbours when i attempt to bring the free stools back to my house.

Interesting....People is seemed more interested to know who to be blame when we are ended with anti-social/inconsiderate neighbours...

Btw.... if you think reserving those spaces are disturbing to you, then you may consider to move those chairs away....who can issue you summon for this act right? If it is public space, then it should be shared with all rightfully.

proud owner
14-06-13, 13:09
Interesting....People is seemed more interested to know who to be blame when we are ended with anti-social/inconsiderate neighbours...

Btw.... if you think reserving those spaces are disturbing to you, then you may consider to move it away....who can issue you summon for this act right? If it is public space, then it should be shared with all rightfully.


the problem here is that for most singaporeans ... if you put a bin to chope a spot ..and your neighbor moves it away ... you will almost immediately jump at your neighbor ...

but if the govt steps in and remove the bin and issue you with a warning ... you will most likely 'accept' it ...

ysyap
14-06-13, 21:25
Interesting....People is seemed more interested to know who to be blame when we are ended with anti-social/inconsiderate neighbours...

Btw.... if you think reserving those spaces are disturbing to you, then you may consider to move those chairs away....who can issue you summon for this act right? If it is public space, then it should be shared with all rightfully.Here's my point. While we think that it is perfectly ok and legitimate to remove the stools coz its public space, much to the disapproval of those landed house owners, I am more concerned about the damage my car might sustain if I use those lots. Even with CCTV, these hooligans can still scratch your car in a face mask, etc... The best is report to the authorities and fine them jialat jialat coz they won't know who did it... :cheers5:

ysyap
14-06-13, 21:28
the problem here is that for most singaporeans ... if you put a bin to chope a spot ..and your neighbor moves it away ... you will almost immediately jump at your neighbor ...

but if the govt steps in and remove the bin and issue you with a warning ... you will most likely 'accept' it ...Interesting point... stretching a little further, if the argument is that these people should not use bins/chairs, etc to reserve the parking lots coz they will use it later in the day, what about those people who leave tissue packs at hawker centres while they go away to buy food coz they will use the space when they return with their food? Is one more 'illegal' than the other? What do you think?

In the context of the thread title, if I park my bicycle at the parking lot, is it considered as any bins or chairs which should not be there? Lol... I certainly think so...

wsx123
14-06-13, 23:30
i) if you put a bin to chope a spot ..and your neighbor moves it away ... you will almost immediately jump at your neighbor ...

ii)but if the govt steps in and remove the bin and issue you with a warning ... you will most likely 'accept' it ...

i) If they move my bin, I cannot not jump at them coz it a public space. But if they destroy my bin or threaten me, then I will call police.

ii) If govt issue me a summon, I will clarify for which rule/law broken.

hyenergix
14-06-13, 23:41
i) If they move my bin, I cannot not jump at them coz it a public space. But if they destroy my bin or threaten me, then I will call police.

ii) If govt issue me a summon, I will clarify for which rule/law broken.

Before we resort to legal discussion, let's look at civic behaviour.

wsx123
14-06-13, 23:42
Before we resort to legal discussion, let's look at civic behaviour.

We all live in a small world, all were well taught/informed of the importance of sharing.
Have to admit, you can’t choose your neighbor, but lucky you can choose where to stay, or give in/tolerate.
If there are some laws that punish inconsiderate behavior, good or bad, it is still a debatable subject.

hyenergix
14-06-13, 23:57
We all live in a small world, all were well taught/informed of the importance of sharing.
Have to admit, you can’t choose your neighbor, but lucky you can choose where to stay, or give in/tolerate.
If there are some laws that punish inconsiderate behavior, good or bad, it is still a debatable subject.

Reserving a public place with a chair or bin for the purpose of parking own car without paying for the use of the space when most other people are doing so is not really sharing.

hopeful
15-06-13, 08:32
Interesting point... stretching a little further, if the argument is that these people should not use bins/chairs, etc to reserve the parking lots coz they will use it later in the day, what about those people who leave tissue packs at hawker centres while they go away to buy food coz they will use the space when they return with their food? Is one more 'illegal' than the other? What do you think?
.....

that is a good example.
if and only if the whole table is empty (no person sitting) and only tissue packs, my colleagues and i will sit down with our food.
when the person come back, i will tell them i thought people forget and leave their tissue packs there.
got one time, i was caught using the tissue pack to wipe my mouth :o.
be a bit more thick skinned, wtf can they do to you?

i only dare if the whole table is empty, if got 1 person sitting, then i will move look for other tables.

wsx123
15-06-13, 09:39
Reserving a public place with a chair or bin for the purpose of parking own car without paying for the use of the space when most other people are doing so is not really sharing.

Agreed. No one should have his right to reserve public spaces.
If it is public, we all share without the mentality of owning it or even having some priority using it. . Including those "high ranking officials"...

wsx123
15-06-13, 09:45
got one time, i was caught using the tissue pack to wipe my mouth :o.
be a bit more thick skinned, wtf can they do to you?



Next time try telling them "Nowadays food court is so nice. Provide free tissue paper.";)

kane
15-06-13, 10:24
people also very nice, provide you free plastic chair to sit when the weather is hot.

VS
15-06-13, 10:47
this is definitely wrong


cos the landed owner there DONT pay for the space across their house ...

if I was LTA .. I will issue summon tickets to the owner of the stools

If LTA wants to issue summon tickets, no body will claim owner of the chairs. Cheaper to throw away the chairs then pay fines.

ysyap
15-06-13, 12:58
If LTA wants to issue summon tickets, no body will claim owner of the chairs. Cheaper to throw away the chairs then pay fines.Hide a video cam in the car in front or behind. Film the owner removing the chairs and parking his/her car into the 'reserved' lot. There.... u got indisputable evidence.