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freesoul
11-06-13, 12:35
dear gurus, if i've fund for the downpayment + ABSD for a 1-bedder, is it good time to buy 3rd PC for investment (looking for rent) now or wait and see how till next year?

shareidiot
11-06-13, 12:41
Yesterday i asked an agent about the total outfront if i buy 3rd property.
Based on $820k property, the outfront cash + cpf is more than $500k.

Based on this property rental yield is estimated @ 4%.

Personally, i dont think i want to tie down so much cash on 3rd property. :2cents:


dear gurus, if i've fund for the downpayment + ABSD for a 1-bedder, is it good time to buy 3rd PC for investment (looking for rent) now or wait and see how till next year?

freesoul
11-06-13, 13:03
Yesterday i asked an agent about the total outfront if i buy 3rd property.
Based on $820k property, the outfront cash + cpf is more than $500k.

Based on this property rental yield is estimated @ 4%.

Personally, i dont think i want to tie down so much cash on 3rd property. :2cents:

4% rent return really sounds good ...

radha08
11-06-13, 15:26
Yesterday i asked an agent about the total outfront if i buy 3rd property.
Based on $820k property, the outfront cash + cpf is more than $500k.

Based on this property rental yield is estimated @ 4%.

Personally, i dont think i want to tie down so much cash on 3rd property. :2cents:

basically KBW does NOT want you /us to buy 3rd property thats why all the cms:banghead:

shareidiot
11-06-13, 15:31
Ya, and for this objective, the CMs have been effective lor ... :(

I started 'late' (to invest). Done too much calculations during my younger days. No guts to commit a baywater unit... Haizz....


basically KBW does NOT want you /us to buy 3rd property thats why all the cms:banghead:

princess_morbucks
11-06-13, 17:42
basically KBW does NOT want you /us to buy 3rd property thats why all the cms:banghead:

They should allow us to buy properties according to the number of children we have without ABSD and SSD.

radha08
11-06-13, 18:28
I started 'late' (to invest). Done too much calculations during my younger days. No guts to commit a baywater unit... Haizz....

:banghead:u NOT the only one:banghead:

radha08
11-06-13, 18:29
They should allow us to buy properties according to the number of children we have without ABSD and SSD.
good idea:D then everybody will be making babies:D

GForce
11-06-13, 18:32
To the TS u should wait the tides are turning !

princess_morbucks
11-06-13, 18:49
good idea:D then everybody will be making babies:D
Yup .. makes sense.
One house for each child, the more the merrier!

chiaberry
11-06-13, 21:30
They should allow us to buy properties according to the number of children we have without ABSD and SSD.

LIKE! :cheers4:

ysyap
11-06-13, 21:42
They should allow us to buy properties according to the number of children we have without ABSD and SSD.Super LIKE! :cheers4:

ysyap
11-06-13, 21:45
Just to ask if anybody has experience or heard about special provisions given to avoid SSD/ABSD? I called up (can't remember which office, maybe URA) and asked about writing in to waive off SSD and the officer said my case is not divorce or transfer of inheritance so cannot but can always try... who knows... does anybody has any experience on this? :beats-me-man:

princess_morbucks
11-06-13, 22:14
Just to ask if anybody has experience or heard about special provisions given to avoid SSD/ABSD? I called up (can't remember which office, maybe URA) and asked about writing in to waive off SSD and the officer said my case is not divorce or transfer of inheritance so cannot but can always try... who knows... does anybody has any experience on this? :beats-me-man:

Isn't that the standard answer these days?
Customer oriented.

freesoul
12-06-13, 11:10
To the TS u should wait the tides are turning !


dun know tides will turn to which direction. really worried:banghead:

chiaberry
12-06-13, 11:15
Just to ask if anybody has experience or heard about special provisions given to avoid SSD/ABSD? I called up (can't remember which office, maybe URA) and asked about writing in to waive off SSD and the officer said my case is not divorce or transfer of inheritance so cannot but can always try... who knows... does anybody has any experience on this? :beats-me-man:

Transfer of inheritance can waive ABSD?

taggy
12-06-13, 11:18
Transfer of inheritance can waive ABSD?
property acquired thru inheritance will not have ABSD - confirmedddd :)

chiaberry
12-06-13, 11:26
property acquired thru inheritance will not have ABSD - confirmedddd :)

Sure? I can't find the place on the IRAS website that confirms this.

ysyap
12-06-13, 11:56
Transfer of inheritance can waive ABSD?He didn't say can but can write in to try...

chiaberry
12-06-13, 12:05
He didn't say can but can write in to try...

This should be specifically spelt out. How can suka-suka exempt this? It is a big ticket item.

Well I suppose they will exempt those Ministers etc who inherit large estates.

There is no guarantee they will exempt lesser mortals like us though.

chestnut
12-06-13, 12:25
This should be specifically spelt out. How can suka-suka exempt this? It is a big ticket item.

Well I suppose they will exempt those Ministers etc who inherit large estates.

There is no guarantee they will exempt lesser mortals like us though.

http://www.allenandgledhill.com/pages/publications.aspx?list=LBulletinAreas&pub_id=35&topic=Legal+Bulletin+February+2012

minority
12-06-13, 12:57
He didn't say can but can write in to try...


yes caveat is seller have die 1st. So if u can get a dying relative to buy for u and transfer to u. make sure the relative have less then 12mths.. not die before the Option is exercised. and will is stated clearly. if not u might have to wait a long time. or get into legal fight with his children or wife.

but just to safe ABSD is it worth this? u are better off decoupling the current assest.

minority
12-06-13, 12:59
This should be specifically spelt out. How can suka-suka exempt this? It is a big ticket item.

Well I suppose they will exempt those Ministers etc who inherit large estates.

There is no guarantee they will exempt lesser mortals like us though.


expemtion is for everyone who die and transfer assets to family members.

ysyap
12-06-13, 13:14
This should be specifically spelt out. How can suka-suka exempt this? It is a big ticket item.

Well I suppose they will exempt those Ministers etc who inherit large estates.

There is no guarantee they will exempt lesser mortals like us though.Wah... lesser motrals vs immortals! :sleep:

chiaberry
12-06-13, 13:14
yes caveat is seller have die 1st. So if u can get a dying relative to buy for u and transfer to u. make sure the relative have less then 12mths.. not die before the Option is exercised. and will is stated clearly. if not u might have to wait a long time. or get into legal fight with his children or wife.

but just to safe ABSD is it worth this? u are better off decoupling the current assest.

Thanks everyone for the clarification.

Hmm...I had been trying to figure out how much $$$ I would need if parents/in-laws passed down their property. I wouldn't want to be caught in a situation where have not enough cash to keep the family home due to having to pay ABSD.

princess_morbucks
12-06-13, 13:58
dun know tides will turn to which direction. really worried:banghead:
Maybe you can read this website for inspiration?

http://propertysoul.com/

It is written by one of our forummers, vip.

taggy
12-06-13, 13:58
Thanks everyone for the clarification.

Hmm...I had been trying to figure out how much $$$ I would need if parents/in-laws passed down their property. I wouldn't want to be caught in a situation where have not enough cash to keep the family home due to having to pay ABSD.

confirmed chopped :D
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=365313&postcount=92
ABSD e-Tax guide:
First published on 7 December 2011
Second Edition published on 12 January 2012
Third Edition published on 19 January 2012

by 19-jan-2012, "5.1 – Deleted ‘Inheritance'" - inheritance already removed from ABSD.

chiaberry
12-06-13, 15:06
confirmed chopped :D
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=365313&postcount=92
ABSD e-Tax guide:
First published on 7 December 2011
Second Edition published on 12 January 2012
Third Edition published on 19 January 2012

by 19-jan-2012, "5.1 – Deleted ‘Inheritance'" - inheritance already removed from ABSD.

Ah that's why I thought it was ambiguous. They deleted "inheritance" but did not specifically state that inheritance is exempted. I was thinking it might fall under the "gift" category!

ysyap
12-06-13, 20:37
Ah that's why I thought it was ambiguous. They deleted "inheritance" but did not specifically state that inheritance is exempted. I was thinking it might fall under the "gift" category!That means got chance no need to pay ABSD? Well its ABSD but if I inherit, I'm not buying wat... Lol.. :D

djam7773
13-06-13, 08:55
Morning,

If it s an inherited private property, does IRAS consider it as your first property? Meaning if a family member inherits a PC, he/she cannot buy a HDB anymore?

djam

Joamonte
13-06-13, 11:19
Morning,

If it s an inherited private property, does IRAS consider it as your first property? Meaning if a family member inherits a PC, he/she cannot buy a HDB anymore?

djam


As far as I know is If one already own a private property, he cannot buy HDB flat anymore.

So it is better to get a HDB flat before you brought any private property....HDB flat got higher rental return than any private property so far.