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SINGAPORE: Resale prices of private homes in Singapore rose at a faster rate of 1.9 per cent in April, compared to the previous month's 1.1 per cent price increase.
The Singapore Residential Price Index (SRPI) flash estimates were published by the Institute of Real Estate Studies at the National University of Singapore on Tuesday.
The price increase was led by private homes outside the central region, which rose 2.4 per cent in April, reversing the 0.2 per cent drop in March.
Prices of small units, defined as 506 square feet and below, also trended upwards from 0.8 per cent in March to 1.8 per cent last month.
Meanwhile, resale homes in the central region bucked the trend as price growth moderated.
The SRPI for homes in the central area rose 1.3 per cent in April, down from the 2.8 per cent increase seen in March.
- CNA/al
Eat that Tharman.:tongue3:
Shhhh.. Quite.
Before govt unleashes another CM.
cash becoming more and of a toilet paper now.
Hard asset are way to go.
Because of inappropriate cooling measure that is not targeted, many OCR prices are now more than RCR (and very close to outskirt part of CCR) and still rising at a higher rate than RCR and OCR! (when in fact they should be more concern with cooling OCR because that is for the masses, and dashing the hope of HDB upgraders to upgrade to private properties!). That says so much about their policies, just like they implement GST to help the poor! :banghead:
Eat that Tharman.:tongue3:
Because of inappropriate cooling measure that is not targeted, many OCR prices are now more than RCR (and very close to outskirt part of CCR) and still rising at a higher rate than RCR and OCR! (when in fact they should be more concern with cooling OCR because that is for the masses, and dashing the hope of HDB upgraders to upgrade to private properties!). That says so much about their policies, just like they implement GST to help the poor! :banghead:
GST again LOL... give us a break from the BS. :doh: :doh: :doh:
Regulators
29-05-13, 14:28
GST across the board is never to help the poor unless the poor can claim back from govt gst for every essential item bought. Our govt always comes up with across the board policies and like to give sweeping justifications just like absd n ssd, none of which really worked to control property prices except to add billion dollar revenues into the coffers. Same for erp, cpf, Coe etc...all policies with no strong justifications, just airy fairy kind of reasoning to buy into simple minded people like you :doh:
GST again LOL... give us a break from the BS. :doh: :doh: :doh:
GST across the board is never to help the poor unless the poor can claim back from govt gst for every essential item bought. Our govt always comes up with across the board policies and like to give sweeping justifications just like absd n ssd, none of which really worked to control property prices except to add billion dollar revenues into the coffers. Same for erp, cpf, Coe etc...all policies with no strong justifications, just airy fairy kind of reasoning to buy into simple minded people like you :doh:
as usual . BS. GST vouchers. GST rebates. etc. people that go buy car buy big ticket items are hardly classified as poor.
Chicken rice is got $1.5. kopi tiam breakfast set egg toast coffee $2. u tell me GST impact? Sound more like people dont want GST so they save big big when they spend on luxury items. at the expense of the poor!
lol... u are all kidding urself to feel good.
felicia_sg
29-05-13, 20:07
Bullshit. Those items you said portion become so small, GST effect already included even if price remains the same. You go bluff 3 years old, don't bluff here!
as usual . BS. GST vouchers. GST rebates. etc. people that go buy car buy big ticket items are hardly classified as poor.
Chicken rice is got $1.5. kopi tiam breakfast set egg toast coffee $2. u tell me GST impact? Sound more like people dont want GST so they save big big when they spend on luxury items. at the expense of the poor!
lol... u are all kidding urself to feel good.
Regulators
30-05-13, 01:00
Are you saying the lower income people got no right to move up the social ladder? Gst is only one of those things that add burden to lower income people cpf is another useless policy. Just because people don't pay gst for a cup of coffee you think there is no gst? That is why I say you are a simpleton. Before the coffee is being placed in a cup, it has to go through channels in the supply chain where gst is applicable n the cost is eventually passed down to the consumer. All consumable items bought already have gst included even though not spelt out to the consumer.
as usual . BS. GST vouchers. GST rebates. etc. people that go buy car buy big ticket items are hardly classified as poor.
Chicken rice is got $1.5. kopi tiam breakfast set egg toast coffee $2. u tell me GST impact? Sound more like people dont want GST so they save big big when they spend on luxury items. at the expense of the poor!
lol... u are all kidding urself to feel good.
GST across the board is never to help the poor unless the poor can claim back from govt gst for every essential item bought. Our govt always comes up with across the board policies and like to give sweeping justifications just like absd n ssd, none of which really worked to control property prices except to add billion dollar revenues into the coffers. Same for erp, cpf, Coe etc...all policies with no strong justifications, just airy fairy kind of reasoning to buy into simple minded people like you :doh:
GST theoretically fair and equitable but the better off or richer Singaporeans will have the means to go abroad and spend money outside Singapore thus "evading" GST. That's why it's crap.
Allthepies
30-05-13, 07:35
Ha ha all so heated up again. how about imposing capital gain taxes on all properties transaction and increase taxation on rental income. Since these are instruments of the rich. Set at 50% will be a good start. Then we abolish GST, the money from the taxation can then help the poor. Idea good or not?
Ha ha all so heated up again. how about imposing capital gain taxes on all properties transaction and increase taxation on rental income. Since these are instruments of the rich. Set at 50% will be a good start. Then we abolish GST, the money from the taxation can then help the poor. Idea good or not?
shhh.....don't say so loud......you don't know who might be reading this.....
GST theoretically fair and equitable but the better off or richer Singaporeans will have the means to go abroad and spend money outside Singapore thus "evading" GST. That's why it's crap.
Well depends ur definition of poor . GST is a consumption tax. the rich consume more get taxed more. and part with tax collected $ can be use to fund social services which can be direct or indirect.
anyway u mention the rich or well off go over seas to buy thing. Well do you think they bring back cars , house, stereos , fridge , furniture , bike etc? those u can't run away. Wat abt consuming in resturant in singapore and high end dinning?
unless all dont need to be in singapore then? if not still got to be entertained while in Singapore.
Do the Rich n well do go over seas buy rice, sugar or can food? not really. Still have to consume in singapore.
Also from a poor perspective with less dispose income what is the actual impact of GST verse the rebates given? Workfare? GST vouchers ? food vouchers? utilities rebates? it more than helps covers the GST incurred.
Coz poor wont be buying Cars , eating at high end restaurants etc.
GST across the board is never to help the poor unless the poor can claim back from govt gst for every essential item bought. Our govt always comes up with across the board policies and like to give sweeping justifications just like absd n ssd, none of which really worked to control property prices except to add billion dollar revenues into the coffers. Same for erp, cpf, Coe etc...all policies with no strong justifications, just airy fairy kind of reasoning to buy into simple minded people like you :doh:
Talk cock lah. before u go on n on an on abt GST crap. wat is your definition of poor? The stone bear says per mth earn 9K is consider poor. Singapore 80% are poor.
so maybe before u talk abt tat pls define ur poor.
before u complain and condemn do u have a better proposal on the policies? Scraping GST benefits the rich for sure. as of today the rich pays majority of the collected GST. exempting GST on some items are hard to police.
even in Malaysia which the stupid fool say no GST. they have Goods and service tax applied. So its not 100% tax free anyway.
Why so troublesome? Might as well tax at source of income! We are not afraid that they run/avoid, because when they do it is a crime so they can be taxed 3x or more and also go to jail, not worth it right? On the other hand, GST allows them to avoid taxes by going overseas to spend, so a lot of rich tax revenues lost! :doh:
Well depends ur definition of poor . GST is a consumption tax. the rich consume more get taxed more. and part with tax collected $ can be use to fund social services which can be direct or indirect.
anyway u mention the rich or well off go over seas to buy thing. Well do you think they bring back cars , house, stereos , fridge , furniture , bike etc? those u can't run away. Wat abt consuming in resturant in singapore and high end dinning?
unless all dont need to be in singapore then? if not still got to be entertained while in Singapore.
Do the Rich n well do go over seas buy rice, sugar or can food? not really. Still have to consume in singapore.
Also from a poor perspective with less dispose income what is the actual impact of GST verse the rebates given? Workfare? GST vouchers ? food vouchers? utilities rebates? it more than helps covers the GST incurred.
Coz poor wont be buying Cars , eating at high end restaurants etc.
Before there is GST, family income $4.5k pm is enough to save for retirement. After got GST, people family income needs $9k in order to have savings for retirement, need to retire for >30 years! Otherwise have to work until die because no savings to cater for increased costs of living due to ever rising GSTs... :banghead:
Talk cock lah. before u go on n on an on abt GST crap. wat is your definition of poor? The stone bear says per mth earn 9K is consider poor. Singapore 80% are poor.
so maybe before u talk abt tat pls define ur poor.
before u complain and condemn do u have a better proposal on the policies? Scraping GST benefits the rich for sure. as of today the rich pays majority of the collected GST. exempting GST on some items are hard to police.
even in Malaysia which the stupid fool say no GST. they have Goods and service tax applied. So its not 100% tax free anyway.
Before there is GST, family income $5k pm is enough to save for retirement. After got GST, people family income needs $9k in order to have savings for retirement, need to retire for >30 years! Otherwise have to work until die because no savings to cater for increased costs of living due to ever rising GSTs... People pay tax for about 30 years of working life becaust got income but pay tax for 86 years & as long as they live because of GST even without income! :banghead:
Talk cock lah. before u go on n on an on abt GST crap. wat is your definition of poor? The stone bear says per mth earn 9K is consider poor. Singapore 80% are poor.
so maybe before u talk abt tat pls define ur poor.
before u complain and condemn do u have a better proposal on the policies? Scraping GST benefits the rich for sure. as of today the rich pays majority of the collected GST. exempting GST on some items are hard to police.
even in Malaysia which the stupid fool say no GST. they have Goods and service tax applied. So its not 100% tax free anyway.
Regulators
30-05-13, 12:15
Our cost of living is heading in the direction of Sydney and Melbourne a matter of time but we are not getting minimum wage of sgd27 like them. In Australia if you earn aud4k, you are probably a blue collar worker. If a family guy in singapore earns $9k n having to take care of wife, two kids and two aged parents, I consider that poor. I have already stated my proposal, which is having a gst redemption system for essential goods. If family income based on per head count in family including dependants falls below $2k, the system kicks in so the manager earning $9k would still be entitled to gst refund.
Talk cock lah. before u go on n on an on abt GST crap. wat is your definition of poor? The stone bear says per mth earn 9K is consider poor. Singapore 80% are poor.
so maybe before u talk abt tat pls define ur poor.
before u complain and condemn do u have a better proposal on the policies? Scraping GST benefits the rich for sure. as of today the rich pays majority of the collected GST. exempting GST on some items are hard to police.
even in Malaysia which the stupid fool say no GST. they have Goods and service tax applied. So its not 100% tax free anyway.
thomastansb
30-05-13, 13:08
Wow, you all still on politics...
Anyway, we should stop all these non-property politics discussions. Never ending one. Australia tax higher, how to compare? Or take US, they got oil, how to compare? Or even Malaysia. They have plenty of land and palm oil. How to do a fair comparison??????? Seriously, it is never ending.
If anyone thinks Singapore is high cost, high GST, high taxes whatever, my suggestion is go and work overseas and experience it yourself. Just like me. Go experience it yourself and if you think US is a better place because they have cheap cars, cheap house, higher salary but higher tax, then migrate there lor.
Our cost of living is heading in the direction of Sydney and Melbourne a matter of time but we are not getting minimum wage of sgd27 like them. In Australia if you earn aud4k, you are probably a blue collar worker. If a family guy in singapore earns $9k n having to take care of wife, two kids and two aged parents, I consider that poor. I have already stated my proposal, which is having a gst redemption system for essential goods. If family income based on per head count in family including dependants falls below $2k, the system kicks in so the manager earning $9k would still be entitled to gst refund.
BTW wat is the cost of coffee in Aus? a street side stall coffee chow chow is AUSD$3.5 .
u want to compare basic 4K in Aus? what abt the income tax might I ask?
u still can coffee at 90 cent. breakfast set at $2.
So you are blaming GST for inflation or u are just bay song with inflation as a whole? dont mix it all up.
Wow, you all still on politics...
Anyway, we should stop all these non-property politics discussions. Never ending one. Australia tax higher, how to compare? Or take US, they got oil, how to compare? Or even Malaysia. They have plenty of land and palm oil. How to do a fair comparison??????? Seriously, it is never ending.
If anyone thinks Singapore is high cost, high GST, high taxes whatever, my suggestion is go and work overseas and experience it yourself. Just like me. Go experience it yourself and if you think US is a better place because they have cheap cars, cheap house, higher salary but higher tax, then migrate there lor.
yup bay song? Aus so good then go Aus lor.. Malaysia no GST! got 1 say.. then go Malaysia lor.
Singapore have GST still so many malaysian come here to live and convert to citizen. well maybe these people see something and appreciate it better than the frog in the wells here.
Why so troublesome? Might as well tax at source of income! We are not afraid that they run/avoid, because when they do it is a crime so they can be taxed 3x or more and also go to jail, not worth it right? On the other hand, GST allows them to avoid taxes by going overseas to spend, so a lot of rich tax revenues lost! :doh:
Talk cock. u already say rich can run tax. don't pay income tax. So they person live here right? so u mean they can buy the car and put in pocket bring back? they go overseas buy luggage load of sugar and bring back.
Wat a dumb ass. u are just trying to hide the fact u want to save on GST! so u can get more saving on ur big ticket items.!
Before there is GST, family income $5k pm is enough to save for retirement. After got GST, people family income needs $9k in order to have savings for retirement, need to retire for >30 years! Otherwise have to work until die because no savings to cater for increased costs of living due to ever rising GSTs... People pay tax for about 30 years of working life becaust got income but pay tax for 86 years & as long as they live because of GST even without income! :banghead:
really! show me the proof!!!!
Also with 5K pm they can dont spend on big ticket items. if u spend on big ticket items they are not POOR!.
so 9K pm is poor??? these show u are a load of bull.
Our cost of living is heading in the direction of Sydney and Melbourne a matter of time but we are not getting minimum wage of sgd27 like them. In Australia if you earn aud4k, you are probably a blue collar worker. If a family guy in singapore earns $9k n having to take care of wife, two kids and two aged parents, I consider that poor. I have already stated my proposal, which is having a gst redemption system for essential goods. If family income based on per head count in family including dependants falls below $2k, the system kicks in so the manager earning $9k would still be entitled to gst refund.
BTW can I ask how much tax u willing to pay? same matching as Aus 45%? and so min coffee AUS $3.5 u not going to KPKB?
also means no maid. coz in Aus people cannot afford maid.
Seems like the discussions is on GST again, which is all about tax policies, what has GST to do with politics?
Simply, raising GST so as to cut income taxes of top tier earners & businessmen are just socially wrong & have no consideration at all for those with no income & yet still need to pay tax.
Wow, you all still on politics...
Anyway, we should stop all these non-property politics discussions. Never ending one. Australia tax higher, how to compare? Or take US, they got oil, how to compare? Or even Malaysia. They have plenty of land and palm oil. How to do a fair comparison??????? Seriously, it is never ending.
If anyone thinks Singapore is high cost, high GST, high taxes whatever, my suggestion is go and work overseas and experience it yourself. Just like me. Go experience it yourself and if you think US is a better place because they have cheap cars, cheap house, higher salary but higher tax, then migrate there lor.
Many Malaysians want to convert to Singapore citizen? What a joke! Please provide us the facts to substantiate what you say. All the Malaysians I know have been PRs for decades & still just that - PRs! They rather go back Malaysia to retire!
yup bay song? Aus so good then go Aus lor.. Malaysia no GST! got 1 say.. then go Malaysia lor.
Singapore have GST still so many malaysian come here to live and convert to citizen. well maybe these people see something and appreciate it better than the frog in the wells here.
Many Malaysians want to convert to Singapore citizen? What a joke! Please provide us the facts to substantiate what you say. All the Malaysians I know have been PRs for decades & still just that - PRs! They rather go back Malaysia to retire!
you are god-damn right. my aunty is a pr for decades,in her 50s and holding to a 4room hdb, a shophouse and a jb condo.
still not willing to give up malaysia citizen for sgp citizen,hahahaha.
Regulators
30-05-13, 18:19
Aussie's high tax n high cost of living squared off with high salary, Singapore is different, we may have a slightly lower tax bracket, but we have an every increasing cost of living n a whole barage of shit thrown at us like cpf, coe, gst, erp, etc to tax us and add burden to the average Singaporean. This is all done with income not growing in proportion.
Wow, you all still on politics...
Anyway, we should stop all these non-property politics discussions. Never ending one. Australia tax higher, how to compare? Or take US, they got oil, how to compare? Or even Malaysia. They have plenty of land and palm oil. How to do a fair comparison??????? Seriously, it is never ending.
If anyone thinks Singapore is high cost, high GST, high taxes whatever, my suggestion is go and work overseas and experience it yourself. Just like me. Go experience it yourself and if you think US is a better place because they have cheap cars, cheap house, higher salary but higher tax, then migrate there lor.
Regulators
30-05-13, 18:51
I concur with that totally, to many prs here, they would rather keep their citizenship in their home country and just remain as pr as they know they get to enjoy the same benefits as Singaporeans. When govt gave away our birthright by allowing foreigners to own public housing, they have betrayed Singaporeans.
Many Malaysians want to convert to Singapore citizen? What a joke! Please provide us the facts to substantiate what you say. All the Malaysians I know have been PRs for decades & still just that - PRs! They rather go back Malaysia to retire!
Many Malaysians want to convert to Singapore citizen? What a joke! Please provide us the facts to substantiate what you say. All the Malaysians I know have been PRs for decades & still just that - PRs! They rather go back Malaysia to retire!
no I knwo many who take up the citizen ship. can u show me the facts then all go back? talk cock.
Aussie's high tax n high cost of living squared off with high salary, Singapore is different, we may have a slightly lower tax bracket, but we have an every increasing cost of living n a whole barage of shit thrown at us like cpf, coe, gst, erp, etc to tax us and add burden to the average Singaporean. This is all done with income not growing in proportion.
So pay every one min 4K which business can survive? u got business sense? we export wat? sai ah? we got gold? we got ore? we got wat sai in the ground? we got trees bo? we got sand bo?
all we got is the human resource and we sell service to the region. since when u buy any thing that is from aus? or any services in aus? they cannot survive here with their cost.
so can u explain how everyone will have a job if pay is 4K min? or ur $27 a hr? sure it feel good to have $27 a hr but I guess it feels even better without a job sucking toe.
you are god-damn right. my aunty is a pr for decades,in her 50s and holding to a 4room hdb, a shophouse and a jb condo.
still not willing to give up malaysia citizen for sgp citizen,hahahaha.
maybe u should just kick ur aunty home then.?
you are god-damn right. my aunty is a pr for decades,in her 50s and holding to a 4room hdb, a shophouse and a jb condo.
still not willing to give up malaysia citizen for sgp citizen,hahahaha.
It sounds to me you are not so concern abt the PR status. but u are jealous that she is living here n have a shophouse n condo.
Regulators
31-05-13, 11:22
Did I say the lowest paid Singaporean worker should get paid aud4k ? So you are saying countries that don't export natural resources are a doomed nation and should accept cheap labor? Your kind of warped logic can only come from brainwashing. The minimum pay for the lowly paid workers in Singapore is grossly disproportionate with full time cleaners still paid $1k a month plus having to contribute cpf. You think that is normal in the face of rising cost?
So pay every one min 4K which business can survive? u got business sense? we export wat? sai ah? we got gold? we got ore? we got wat sai in the ground? we got trees bo? we got sand bo?
all we got is the human resource and we sell service to the region. since when u buy any thing that is from aus? or any services in aus? they cannot survive here with their cost.
so can u explain how everyone will have a job if pay is 4K min? or ur $27 a hr? sure it feel good to have $27 a hr but I guess it feels even better without a job sucking toe.
Did I say the lowest paid Singaporean worker should get paid aud4k ? So you are saying countries that don't export natural resources are a doomed nation and should accept cheap labor? Your kind of warped logic can only come from brainwashing. The minimum pay for the lowly paid workers in Singapore is grossly disproportionate with full time cleaners still paid $1k a month plus having to contribute cpf. You think that is normal in the face of rising cost?
Yes! I am saying tat. Look at Greece what shit they got themselves into? Oh is that brain wash? I guess u are only a salary receiver and dont trouble yourself with the intricacy of running a business. make it not profitable and unsbstable to run the business then its simply reduce workforce or close the business.
So what if u pay the cleaners more and that general labor cost get feed back to the products. so wat u pay the cleaner 2000 but 1 meal end up $10 bucks? there are no meaning in the pay increase.
Its rather the cleaners gain more skill set and do more valuable jobs. And for the low paying jobs thats why we have funnel it out to low wage workers that dont spend the $ in singapore! and yes for those folk CPF dont matter!
any given the day n age how many of u want ur kids to be cleaners? maybe u like urs to be but not many of the people.
so dont talk cock sit on the high moral chair talk cock but when it come to the crunch where inflation get push higer n jobs gets scare and business goes away. then KPKB point finger.
:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:
Regulators
31-05-13, 14:56
From the way you speak, you obviously have no empathy, nothing to do with moral high ground. In my business, I deal with parents earning less than $1k a month having to pay for their kids education, constantly fighting for higher pay that never comes coz insufficient govt support n a useless trade union. On the other spectrum, you have lower middle class pap bootlickers like you who agree to whatever crap pap churns out, buying into their stupid reasoning like gst n cpf helps the poor etc. The poor need money in the pocket day to day, not money locked up elsewhere till they die. :doh:
Yes! I am saying tat. Look at Greece what shit they got themselves into? Oh is that brain wash? I guess u are only a salary receiver and dont trouble yourself with the intricacy of running a business. make it not profitable and unsbstable to run the business then its simply reduce workforce or close the business.
So what if u pay the cleaners more and that general labor cost get feed back to the products. so wat u pay the cleaner 2000 but 1 meal end up $10 bucks? there are no meaning in the pay increase.
Its rather the cleaners gain more skill set and do more valuable jobs. And for the low paying jobs thats why we have funnel it out to low wage workers that dont spend the $ in singapore! and yes for those folk CPF dont matter!
any given the day n age how many of u want ur kids to be cleaners? maybe u like urs to be but not many of the people.
so dont talk cock sit on the high moral chair talk cock but when it come to the crunch where inflation get push higer n jobs gets scare and business goes away. then KPKB point finger.
:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:
From the way you speak, you obviously have no empathy, nothing to do with moral high ground. In my business, I deal with parents earning less than $1k a month having to pay for their kids education, constantly fighting for higher pay that never comes coz insufficient govt support n a useless trade union. On the other spectrum, you have lower middle class pap bootlickers like you who agree to whatever crap pap churns out, buying into their stupid reasoning like gst n cpf helps the poor etc. The poor need money in the pocket day to day, not money locked up elsewhere till they die. :doh:
Empathy ! U guys then no empathy. Destroy the jobs n the unskilled all go home suck thumb. I say increase the skill set. Want higher pay do higher pay job. Destroy all the business Sony feel good with 27per hr pay? Who pay? U? I will like to see u hire 27per hr cleaner. Talk abt empathy how much u pay ur maid? 2k per mth? Or 4k per mth?
Dicks like u can't even tell the diff between empathy n charity! U want charity but as long not u pay. That's wat u want.
Strange that every thread people start, it end up as GST discussion ?
The point we should be discussing now is everyone's view of the resale price index for May ! Today is the last day of May. You can still put in a cheque to increase the index by a little bit!
From the few (not representative) caveats Office Boy saw, I think May is going to be another month of 1.x% increase.
Various PCs are clocking in record resale prices still.
DKSG
Regulators
31-05-13, 18:11
So paying odd job workers slightly more than current levels business will collapse? What rubbish you talking about? Macdonalds, koufu n food republic can't survive in Singapore if workers pay up to $8/hour? Do you even read the annual reports to see how much these companies n their bosses are earning before you comment companies will collapse n business can't function? Did I say cleaners should get 27sgd an hour? I simply said the pay is disproportionate to the rising cost of living. Next time when you require geriatric care, I think you should request for gst to be charged to your diapers n every blood pressure pill you pop into your mouth. :doh:
Empathy ! U guys then no empathy. Destroy the jobs n the unskilled all go home suck thumb. I say increase the skill set. Want higher pay do higher pay job. Destroy all the business Sony feel good with 27per hr pay? Who pay? U? I will like to see u hire 27per hr cleaner. Talk abt empathy how much u pay ur maid? 2k per mth? Or 4k per mth?
Dicks like u can't even tell the diff between empathy n charity! U want charity but as long not u pay. That's wat u want.
Aussie's high tax n high cost of living squared off with high salary, Singapore is different, we may have a slightly lower tax bracket, but we have an every increasing cost of living n a whole barage of shit thrown at us like cpf, coe, gst, erp, etc to tax us and add burden to the average Singaporean. This is all done with income not growing in proportion.
Thats Right! its consumption. u have a choice dont consume!. Aussie is tax the crap out of u from ur income regardless.
cpf is not a tax get it right. dont fudge it.
So paying odd job workers slightly more than current levels business will collapse? What rubbish you talking about? Macdonalds, koufu n food republic can't survive in Singapore if workers pay up to $8/hour? Do you even read the annual reports to see how much these companies n their bosses are earning before you comment companies will collapse n business can't function? Did I say cleaners should get 27sgd an hour? I simply said the pay is disproportionate to the rising cost of living. Next time when you require geriatric care, I think you should request for gst to be charged to your diapers n every blood pressure pill you pop into your mouth. :doh:
"Originally Posted by Regulators
Our cost of living is heading in the direction of Sydney and Melbourne a matter of time but we are not getting minimum wage of sgd27 like them. In Australia if you earn aud4k, you are probably a blue collar worker. If a family guy in singapore earns $9k n having to take care of wife, two kids and two aged parents, I consider that poor. I have already stated my proposal, which is having a gst redemption system for essential goods. If family income based on per head count in family including dependants falls below $2k, the system kicks in so the manager earning $9k would still be entitled to gst refund."
you say $27. now u say $8? is that the solution? Why not get them to pick up more skills that little more can get much more.? Sure u can pay them any amount. its just translate to more cost for consumers. So how much of such workers are local after all? Isn't it better to redistribute help to the singaporean in this category then just a general broad base pay increase which will get drow out in the overall inflation as cost get pass back to them?
go think abt it..u want charity not empathy next time when u need care and there are not even any $ from state to pay for a single cent then lest see u shit in ur pants.
Regulators
31-05-13, 19:49
Tax as used in English terms is adding a burden, yes, cpf is taxing on the poor, that word was never used wrongly
Thats Right! its consumption. u have a choice dont consume!. Aussie is tax the crap out of u from ur income regardless.
cpf is not a tax get it right. dont fudge it.
Regulators
31-05-13, 20:29
I used $27 as illustration for Aussie minimum wage, I never said Singapore should have $27 minimum wage, open your eyes properly to read. How many Singaporeans can move up the ladder to higher skilled work? A good example would be someone like you who already have difficulty understanding simple English, what more about those who have no formal schooling? The lower skilled workforce
"Originally Posted by Regulators
Our cost of living is heading in the direction of Sydney and Melbourne a matter of time but we are not getting minimum wage of sgd27 like them. In Australia if you earn aud4k, you are probably a blue collar worker. If a family guy in singapore earns $9k n having to take care of wife, two kids and two aged parents, I consider that poor. I have already stated my proposal, which is having a gst redemption system for essential goods. If family income based on per head count in family including dependants falls below $2k, the system kicks in so the manager earning $9k would still be entitled to gst refund."
you say $27. now u say $8? is that the solution? Why not get them to pick up more skills that little more can get much more.? Sure u can pay them any amount. its just translate to more cost for consumers. So how much of such workers are local after all? Isn't it better to redistribute help to the singaporean in this category then just a general broad base pay increase which will get drow out in the overall inflation as cost get pass back to them?
go think abt it..u want charity not empathy next time when u need care and there are not even any $ from state to pay for a single cent then lest see u shit in ur pants.
Tax as used in English terms is adding a burden, yes, cpf is taxing on the poor, that word was never used wrongly
Then u must just the dumb bear. 9k per mth salary is poor. Narrow short sighted n miopic. Wats ever it is price of food here is still affordable u can kpkb all u want n bull shit abt it.
If that's the case people like u adding burden on the state without value or contribution are also taxing the state. Which in other words are taxing the hard working people.
I used $27 as illustration for Aussie minimum wage, I never said Singapore should have $27 minimum wage, open your eyes properly to read. How many Singaporeans can move up the ladder to higher skilled work? A good example would be someone like you who already have difficulty understanding simple English, what more about those who have no formal schooling? The lower skilled workforce
So $8 is a example too? Lol make up ur mind. Another prata man here. It hard to understand when some one just prata ard.
Regulators
31-05-13, 21:30
I am perceived by you as flipping prata because you are a sotong that can't understand simple English :doh:
So $8 is a example too? Lol make up ur mind. Another prata man here. It hard to understand when some one just prata ard.
I am perceived by you as flipping prata because you are a sotong that can't understand simple English :doh:
really? ah.. good for u. continue ur flipping then.
You small business owner right? Every time people talk about GST, you talk about business must survive so must pay the workers low salary? Don't you know the big business/company paying their top workers $Millions a year? So high you know and yet they are thriving? Where got company need to close down? If must pay the workers low salary, how to expect workers to have money to pay extra taxes via GST that is ever rising? You are full of contradictions!
Actually, the best way for business to maintain paying lower salary to workers is to ensure cost of living is low and hence GST should be scrapped instead (so that it can never be increased) so that costs of living will not be artificially jacked up because of increasing GST!
So pay every one min 4K which business can survive? u got business sense? we export wat? sai ah? we got gold? we got ore? we got wat sai in the ground? we got trees bo? we got sand bo?
all we got is the human resource and we sell service to the region. since when u buy any thing that is from aus? or any services in aus? they cannot survive here with their cost.
so can u explain how everyone will have a job if pay is 4K min? or ur $27 a hr? sure it feel good to have $27 a hr but I guess it feels even better without a job sucking toe.
U really like the stupid bear. U sound like his clone. Gst Gst my foot. Like u remove gst the price will go down. It's all in the margin dumbo.
U must be some selfish dick who want to save $ on ur big ticket item purchase .
All u focus on us low pay? I say increase skill set . Blindly increase broad base pay have no meaning. Just fan inflation n reduce jobs. So read. U dumbo.
All u know is kpkb. Gst ! Increase pay! Talk cock. How is that to help people. All short term fix. More like u cheapo . Want to Siam pay tax!
You small business owner right? Every time people talk about GST, you talk about business must survive so must pay the workers low salary? Don't you know the big business/company paying their top workers $Millions a year? So high you know and yet they are thriving? Where got company need to close down? If must pay the workers low salary, how to expect workers to have money to pay extra taxes via GST that is ever rising? You are full of contradictions!
Actually, the best way for business to maintain paying lower salary to workers is to ensure cost of living is low and hence GST should be scrapped instead (so that it can never be increased) so that costs of living will not be artificially jacked up because of increasing GST!
Me small biz owner? I might be a CEO who know I will have to fire the bunch of people if biz don't make sense here. Singapore or not all will go. Maybe I m a mid level mgr who knows that all the new hire no long is in singapore and my days are numbered if this goes on. Maybe I m the cleaner who knows that without gst my chicken rice will still be $3.5 n never change n my job might be at stake if my employers cannot afford to keep all of us but have to reduce the number of people coz cost have gone out of hand. Or maybe even close shop n all no job. Worst without gst I might not have rebate n vouchers n workfare!
Maybe u are just selfish n kpkb on gst so u can safe on ur big ticket item at our expenses.
Strange that every thread people start, it end up as GST discussion ?
The point we should be discussing now is everyone's view of the resale price index for May ! Today is the last day of May. You can still put in a cheque to increase the index by a little bit!
From the few (not representative) caveats Office Boy saw, I think May is going to be another month of 1.x% increase.
Various PCs are clocking in record resale prices still.
DKSG
Yes we should . All this gst crap talk is Diverging. As usual the few ah gong here trying to find place kpkb spread false info.
phantom_opera
02-06-13, 10:38
5 to 6pc increase this year should not unduly alarm the garmen with inflation this year lowered by COE kelong
5 to 6pc increase this year should not unduly alarm the garmen with inflation this year lowered by COE kelong
Increase in what ? Inflation ? Or property prices ?
DKSG
phantom_opera
02-06-13, 10:45
Increase in what ? Inflation ? Or property prices ?
DKSG
of course property price lah
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