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minority
27-03-13, 11:10
By Toh Yong Chuan Manpower Correspondent And Sue-ann Tan
The labour crunch in Singapore has forced the two associations that represent coffee shops here to entertain a radical move - to get patrons to serve themselves.

The thinking is that this will reduce the need for the traditional kopi kia - Hokkien for coffee boys - who take orders and serve the drinks to customers. They are also known as "runners" in the coffee shop trade.

The move was first brought up in an informal meeting between the Foochow Coffee Restaurant and Bar Merchants Association and the Kheng

Keow Coffee Merchants Restaurant and Bar Owners Association earlier this month.

Both sides, which represent more than half of the 1,300 coffee shops here, have agreed to study the idea and discuss it with their members.

"We hope that it will help reduce coffee shops' demand for workers," said Mr Hong Poh Hin, chairman of the Foochow association. He added that his association's committee will discuss the idea when it meets next month.

He said, however, there will not be any rush to push through the new move because older workers may lose their jobs. Still, he hopes that the number of runners can be cut by "about half" and the manpower can be deployed to do other work such as cleaning tables or manning the till.

Meanwhile, Mr Thomas Foo, chairman of the other association, said that it is planning to take the first step towards the change by putting up posters to encourage self-service.

Checks by The Straits Times found that a typical drinks stall in a coffee shop hires at least two runners. They work eight to 12 hours a day, with two rest days every month. Their monthly pay is between $900 and $1,200.

While there are runners from Malaysia and China, coffee shop operators say that customers still prefer Singaporeans who understand the local dialects.

Coffee shop operators polled by The Straits Times said they are supportive of the idea, but noted that it has to be implemented by everyone.

"If not, those who go self-service can lose customers to those who continue to use runners to serve drinks," said Mr Hoon Thing Leong, chairman of the Kim San Leng chain of 15 coffee shops.

That is because coffee shops that go self-service risk losing the personal relationships that runners strike up with customers.

"I remember the orders of regulars, and I also help customers peel the shells of hard-boiled eggs," said 64-year-old runner Lily Ong Gek Hoon. "If the job is taken away from me, I will find it hard to find another one that I enjoy doing," she added.

The Straits Times also spoke to 20 coffee shop customers, who were lukewarm to the idea of self- service.

"If I have to buy my own drinks, I may not even want to have drinks with my meal. For old people like us, it is hard to hold hot and heavy drinks," said 65-year-old retiree Kiu Yeo.

But 19-year-old student Liew Shuo Ren supported the move, saying: "Foodcourts have already done it."

Mr K.F. Seetoh of Makansutra said that the kopi kia is a key part of Singapore's food culture. "Yes, there is a labour shortage, but how far do you want to go in slashing our heritage, history and culture... in the name of solving our labour problem?"

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minority
27-03-13, 11:11
Good abt time!

phantom_opera
27-03-13, 11:23
kopi-kia are normally locals or Malaysian SPRs right?

hopeful
27-03-13, 11:37
when are they going to reduce the workers in geylang vice shops?
then customers can self serve too when they patronise these shops.

august
27-03-13, 11:47
kopi-kia are normally locals or Malaysian SPRs right?

I notice most are local elderly types.

phantom_opera
27-03-13, 11:48
I notice most are local elderly types.

so instead of getting X2 salary ... now they are totally eradicated??

I thought garmen Wage Credit scheme will help but end up worse??

Cupcakes
27-03-13, 11:53
kopi-kia are normally locals or Malaysian SPRs right?
Most are china already.

august
27-03-13, 11:57
so instead of getting X2 salary ... now they are totally eradicated??

I thought garmen Wage Credit scheme will help but end up worse??

Are these elderly locals paid a lot? I dun think so.
Seems more like a cost cutting initiative rather than a lack of manpower issue.

minority
27-03-13, 12:02
many are not local.

may2012
27-03-13, 12:18
i dont understand......if the foods are already self service why cant the drinks?

one main reason they still need kopi boys is becos coffeshops owners who usually also own the coffeeshops will lose income w/o kopi boys asking and serving drinks.

btw, do u know how much markup for each drink? u will be amazed!

ForeignTalent
27-03-13, 12:28
So the problem is actually lack of peoples who willing to work at kopitiam or kopitiam owner want to cut cost?

If the real problem is lack of peoples who want to work at kopitiam, is it mean it is ok now to employ foreigner to fill up this position? ( conisidering government allow them to do that ).

Will locals complain about their jobs taken ?

Regulators
27-03-13, 12:31
foodcourts have aircon but not coffeeshop

Allthepies
27-03-13, 13:19
the loud complains from the middle class has now affected the people working at the lower end of the wage scale....

sigh...

TigerBalm
27-03-13, 13:37
Old uncles and aunties who are not very steady with their hands and legs need these workers to help them with the drink If they spill the hot drinks, they are likely to be scalded and injured. Spare a thought for them.

thomastansb
27-03-13, 13:51
This is life. The young screwed the elderly. Too bad. Next bomb will be HDB. 50% drop, I wonder what will happen to those who depend on their HDB to retire.

Cupcakes
27-03-13, 15:21
who want to hire old and sick people? Young hardworking china chap is getting same pay, better & faster.... it's just another excuse produce by the govt to tell us, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR

minority
27-03-13, 16:59
who want to hire old and sick people? Young hardworking china chap is getting same pay, better & faster.... it's just another excuse produce by the govt to tell us, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR


this is kopi consortium. how is it government tell leh. The people need to understand what they wish for. like it or not.

so now fire the china chap. any diff? Self service liao. good.

minority
27-03-13, 17:00
This is life. The young screwed the elderly. Too bad. Next bomb will be HDB. 50% drop, I wonder what will happen to those who depend on their HDB to retire.


Well the people scream for drop dont care. They want back to basic for personal interest. those cannot retire? its government fault again loh. coz house is a roof not for retirement!!! back to basics right? tats is eat grass.

minority
27-03-13, 17:02
So the problem is actually lack of peoples who willing to work at kopitiam or kopitiam owner want to cut cost?

If the real problem is lack of peoples who want to work at kopitiam, is it mean it is ok now to employ foreigner to fill up this position? ( conisidering government allow them to do that ).

Will locals complain about their jobs taken ?

Aiayh they always complain. hot weather complain . rain complain. , day complain nigh complain. tats the quality of the generation now.

Cupcakes
27-03-13, 18:30
this is kopi consortium. how is it government tell leh. The people need to understand what they wish for. like it or not.

so now fire the china chap. any diff? Self service liao. good.
Articles published are state controlled. Nope? I'm soooooo tired talking to u.

minority
27-03-13, 21:19
Articles published are state controlled. Nope? I'm soooooo tired talking to u.


really? so so so controlled until kopi boy article must control? u so fearful? n prefer to real online trash? u mean those not " controlled "?