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reporter2
25-03-13, 16:49
http://www.straitstimes.com/archive/monday/premium/top-the-news/story/bto-flat-buyers-face-longer-wait-amid-labour-and-supply-strains-20130318

BTO flat buyers face longer wait amid labour and supply strains

Published on Mar 18, 2013

By Esther Teo Property Correspondent


HOME buyers might have a longer wait for the keys to their Build-To-Order (BTO) flats.

A combination of the construction industry labour crunch and a ramp-up in the Housing Board's building programme is stretching the completion period for new BTO projects by several months.

The private sector has already taken a hit as contractors push back deadlines and take longer to complete projects, as the industry struggles with fewer workers.

And this seems to have affected the Housing Board sector as well, with estimated waiting times for some recent standard BTO projects of 20 storeys and below being stretched to as long as 43 months.

The National Development Ministry said in 2010 that the waiting time - from booking a flat to collecting the keys - for such BTO projects launched after the middle of 2011 would be about 2 1/2 years, or 30 months.

But this seems to be no longer the case, despite the Housing Board moving to a building "ahead of order" system.

A quick check of January's BTO launches shows that estimated completion times for projects of under 20 storeys range from 32 to 43 months.

For bigger projects - with more storeys and units - the waiting time stretches to as long as 58 months, or nearly five years.

The 1,058-unit Fengshan Greenville in Bedok, for instance, comprising eight blocks that are 16 to 19 storeys, has an estimated waiting time of 54 to 58 months for some of its blocks.

But even for typical standard BTO projects comprising five blocks of not more than 20 storeys, the 30-month timeframe seems unlikely to be met.

Tampines Greenforest, for instance, comprising 424 units in four blocks of 15 storeys each, has an estimated waiting time of 35 to 37 months. It was launched in January this year.

Similarly, Punggol Opal with four 17-storey blocks comprising 526 units also has a waiting time of 35 to 38 months, while GreenTops @ Sims Place in Geylang - a 19-storey block with 338 units - is expected to take 36 to 38 months. Both were launched in last July's BTO exercise.

A Housing Board spokesman noted that the construction time for each project depends on many factors, such as the complexity of the design features, soil conditions and other site constraints.

For standard BTO projects of 20 storeys and below completed from 2010 to last year, however, the average construction time was 30 months, he said.

Accountant K.C. Lee, 27, applied for a five-room flat at Keat Hong Mirage in Choa Chu Kang last November. The 1,159-unit development has an estimated waiting time of 39 to 43 months.

Mr Lee said that while the waiting time is quite long, it works for him. "It also gives me some time to get our finances ready for expenses like the honeymoon, renovation and deposit.

"But the long waiting time of three to four years might cause unpredictability for some relationships. I'm sure there are also some buyers who want a ready flat sooner so that they can start leading private lives."

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phantom_opera
25-03-13, 18:26
The 1,058-unit Fengshan Greenville in Bedok, for instance, comprising eight blocks that are 16 to 19 storeys, has an estimated waiting time of 54 to 58 months for some of its blocks.

OMG ... that is like 4 and a half years

Rysk
25-03-13, 19:57
The 1,058-unit Fengshan Greenville in Bedok, for instance, comprising eight blocks that are 16 to 19 storeys, has an estimated waiting time of 54 to 58 months for some of its blocks.

OMG ... that is like 4 and a half years

Oh that was Ah Khaw's plan.. Talk BIG BIG BTO supply is coming.. Well in the end......

Started by creating the labour crunch.. push up the cost in many sectors.. cost pass-on to the consumers..
You wait long long.. in the end also have to pay even though everything will be more & more expensive..

Kelonguni
25-03-13, 20:16
Oh that was Ah Khaw's plan.. Talk BIG BIG BTO supply is coming.. Well in the end......

Started by creating the labour crunch.. push up the cost in many sectors.. cost pass-on to the consumers..
You wait long long.. in the end also have to pay even though everything will be more & more expensive..

It was already predicted some months back. Govt showhand already.

By 2015 there will be lobbyist for all the foreigners to come back.

kane
25-03-13, 20:45
Was Poh Lian involved in any HDB projects?

actually 4.5 years isn't as long as how long it took to build Pinnacle Duxton right?

thomastansb
25-03-13, 21:07
No leh. All oppositions wanted lesser foreigners. One party even wanted 0 foreigner growth. So too bad lor. You get what you want..





Oh that was Ah Khaw's plan.. Talk BIG BIG BTO supply is coming.. Well in the end......

Started by creating the labour crunch.. push up the cost in many sectors.. cost pass-on to the consumers..
You wait long long.. in the end also have to pay even though everything will be more & more expensive..

eng81157
26-03-13, 08:19
No leh. All oppositions wanted lesser foreigners. One party even wanted 0 foreigner growth. So too bad lor. You get what you want..

please allow me to correct the statement, the zero FW/FT growth will only happen IF local workforce participation (e.g. stay-home-mums, retirees) increases.

there is a condition attached to the notion. all PAP MPs, PAP-friendly federations and MSM do is to quote part of the statement and blow it out of context.

PAP implemented the freeze after the last GE and there has been ample time to tweak and fine tune the policy - didn't happen. opposition wants lots of stuff, e.g. a revamped healthcare system, cost-plus pricing of HDB flats - didn't happen. don't be too quick to apportion blame to the opposition and absolve the government of blame entirely.

mcmlxxvi
26-03-13, 10:32
The 1,058-unit Fengshan Greenville in Bedok, for instance, comprising eight blocks that are 16 to 19 storeys, has an estimated waiting time of 54 to 58 months for some of its blocks.

OMG ... that is like 4 and a half years

ya... already saw that when was looking at that bto

mcmlxxvi
26-03-13, 10:34
No leh. All oppositions wanted lesser foreigners. One party even wanted 0 foreigner growth. So too bad lor. You get what you want..

exactly. those who kpkb about foreigners crowding mrt n stealing their jobs are likely the same demographics of those who buy bto. really lppl. orbi good.

im just waiting to hear news of foreigner kena raped or gang bashed im hdb heartlands, to prove the boiling point of these crap.

RCT
26-03-13, 10:44
FT and FW are different class of people ba? What the people are asking is to reduce the number of FT that is taking up all the supervisor and management level job. But the government is always trying to divert the attention to FW and then in the end this group of poorly pay people get the blame. You think a FW working for construction that earn only less than S$1k can afford to rent a house for S$2k plus or buy an HDB for S$500k?

Come on, the people is no longer so stupid like before that can be easily diverted to the agenda that benefit the government.

sgbuyer
26-03-13, 10:53
FT and FW are different class of people ba? What the people are asking is to reduce the number of FT that is taking up all the supervisor and management level job. But the government is always trying to divert the attention to FW and then in the end this group of poorly pay people get the blame. You think a FW working for construction that earn only less than S$1k can afford to rent a house for S$2k plus or buy an HDB for S$500k?

Come on, the people is no longer so stupid like before that can be easily diverted to the agenda that benefit the government.


:cheers4:

..........

eng81157
26-03-13, 11:02
i believe there may be another agendas at play,

1st scenario - KenoBiWan pushed out too much HDB and needs to slow the onslaught to match the slower population growth rate

2nd scenario - Lengthy period allows KenoBiWan to tweak the kinks in policies/CMs, average out peaks and troughs

3rd scenario - Forcefully inflate the salaries of construction workers and make jobs more attractive for locals

4th scenario - Screwed by your colleague (in MoM) or your boss

mcmlxxvi
26-03-13, 11:06
FT and FW are different class of people ba? What the people are asking is to reduce the number of FT that is taking up all the supervisor and management level job. But the government is always trying to divert the attention to FW and then in the end this group of poorly pay people get the blame. You think a FW working for construction that earn only less than S$1k can afford to rent a house for S$2k plus or buy an HDB for S$500k?

Come on, the people is no longer so stupid like before that can be easily diverted to the agenda that benefit the government.

aiya, given a choice, you want loads of FW or FT to crowd and squeeze beside you on the mrt?

minority
26-03-13, 17:00
aiya, given a choice, you want loads of FW or FT to crowd and squeeze beside you on the mrt?


aiyah all KPKB 46% of Foreign workforce is low skill workers to have impact to the foreign feel every get is to reduce the low skill workforce. coz these are the ones that give everyone the crowded feeling in MRT etc.

well the people get wat they want lor.. reduce but pay more and wait longer lor.

mcmlxxvi
26-03-13, 17:05
aiyah all KPKB 46% of Foreign workforce is low skill workers to have impact to the foreign feel every get is to reduce the low skill workforce. coz these are the ones that give everyone the crowded feeling in MRT etc.

well the people get wat they want lor.. reduce but pay more and wait longer lor.

Exactly la brudder, i oso say!