View Full Version : New 2Bed Room HDB BTO is out.
For a single and the price. I think its decent. With grant at 57K is very affordable.
2-room 47sqm
w/o grant
From $117,000
w grant
From $57,000
http://esales.hdb.gov.sg/hdbvsf/eampu03p.nsf/0/13MARBTOBB_images_1829/$file/typical1.gif
http://esales.hdb.gov.sg/hdbvsf/eampu03p.nsf/0/13MARBTOBB_images_1829/$file/townmap_100.jpg
Unit distribution
http://esales.hdb.gov.sg/hdbvsf/eampu03p.nsf/0/13MARBTOBB_images_1829/$file/unit1.jpg
phantom_opera
21-03-13, 16:05
I thought singles only qualify starting from July??
anyway, this will be a real test ... I won't be surprised not many are interested ... the new breed of young SCs only only want cheap, they also want location like Duxton
I thought singles only qualify starting from July??
anyway, this will be a real test ... I won't be surprised not many are interested ... the new breed of young SCs only only want cheap, they also want location like Duxton
Why pay so much for an HDB?
If i'm a single, i rather buy a $57k 2-Rm, and then use the rest of my money to buy a freehold walkup apt or even a 99-yrs mm to collect rental for my old age. Isn't this more logical??
There goes the 3rm resale flats liao.
:D
phantom_opera
21-03-13, 17:13
Why pay so much for an HDB?
If i'm a single, i rather buy a $57k 2-Rm, and then use the rest of my money to buy a freehold walkup apt or even a 99-yrs mm to collect rental for my old age. Isn't this more logical??
There goes the 3rm resale flats liao.
:D
not so simple lah, if you are singles earning 5kpm and below, how to afford 99LH MM which is something like 5xx-6xxk
5k pm can save 1kpm or not? 1 year save 12k, 10y save 120k ?? :rolleyes:
Well, at least the block design is not like those 2 room flats of the 70s and 80s with dark corridors, no ventilation, stale smell and bedbugs stereotypes. :rolleyes:
not so simple lah, if you are singles earning 5kpm and below, how to afford 99LH MM which is something like 5xx-6xxk
5k pm can save 1kpm or not? 1 year save 12k, 10y save 120k ?? :rolleyes:
Singles can save quite a lot. And besides, many people used to earn more when they were younger.
I've even met an uncle cab driver is his 50s or 60s, single now, he told me he used to be an MNC GM until he got retrenched in 98.
There are also a lot of uncle and auntie singles, with few hundred K in bank, but working in coffeeshop and part-time jobs that earn no more than $1.5K a month and can survive on just that amount of money.
Why still have a bomb shelter in a 2-room flat? Can't HDB put the bomb shelter in the basement of the block? :doh:
http://esales.hdb.gov.sg/hdbvsf/eampu03p.nsf/0/13MARBTOBB_images_1829/$file/typical1.gif
the singles scheme only starts in July.
phantom_opera
21-03-13, 17:59
the verdict will be out soon ... let's see SC singles are really that keen on a 2r HDB that potentially will limit the rental quantum after 5y MOP (3r HDB near MRT can command 2.xk per month rental)
end of day:
2-room
100 units 26 applications 0.0 1.5 0.3
looks like all 26 applicants all 2nd timers
the verdict will be out soon ... let's see SC singles are really that keen on a 2r HDB that potentially will limit the rental quantum after 5y MOP (3r HDB near MRT can command 2.xk per month rental)
end of day:
2-room
100 units 26 applications 0.0 1.5 0.3
looks like all 26 applicants all 2nd timers
Will have subscribers lah. For own stay. It's 1/5 to 1/10 of the price of a private leasehold. That might be what some can afford at max.
Why still have a bomb shelter in a 2-room flat? Can't HDB put the bomb shelter in the basement of the block? :doh:
http://esales.hdb.gov.sg/hdbvsf/eampu03p.nsf/0/13MARBTOBB_images_1829/$file/typical1.gif
I believe it doubles up as a storeroom and also reinforces the building so it doesn't collapse - need civil engineer to confirm.
Why still have a bomb shelter in a 2-room flat? Can't HDB put the bomb shelter in the basement of the block? :doh:
http://esales.hdb.gov.sg/hdbvsf/eampu03p.nsf/0/13MARBTOBB_images_1829/$file/typical1.gif
why need kitchen? :doh: Single dont cook too! go eat downstairs
Why still have a bomb shelter in a 2-room flat? Can't HDB put the bomb shelter in the basement of the block? :doh:
http://esales.hdb.gov.sg/hdbvsf/eampu03p.nsf/0/13MARBTOBB_images_1829/$file/typical1.gif
might as well put in masterbed room as wardrobe
and its near to mrt, huat liao lolx!!! MM rules:D
jacelynchia
21-03-13, 18:31
Why still have a bomb shelter in a 2-room flat? Can't HDB put the bomb shelter in the basement of the block? :doh:
http://esales.hdb.gov.sg/hdbvsf/eampu03p.nsf/0/13MARBTOBB_images_1829/$file/typical1.gif
The bomb shelter acts as storeroom may be essential to some.
My friend who lives in a 3 bedder without the utility room, he puts the vacuum cleaner in the living room with the box it came with after using.
The kitchen cabinets are compact so he puts the tissues boxes and household supplies above the refrigerator.
why need kitchen? :doh: Single dont cook too! go eat downstairs
Convert kitchen into room and rent out loh.
An option that is v feasible. Huat liao...
Convert kitchen into room and rent out loh.
An option that is v feasible. Huat liao...
spend few ks to do a island kitchen with electrical cooker, and some light appliances behind bomb shelter wall, and convert into machiam mm 2bedders..
hoesei liao, takeup rate sure high..
That mean only need to pay less then $59,000?
Congrat to those who successful brought it.
But sure got people pour cold water,complain why not 3rm, why this type of design etc ... Sad sad.
ignore the noise, if you are single & like it, do apply. It better to have an assets then rent from other for life. Then few yrs later may able to buy a private for investment.
That mean only need to pay less then $59,000?
Congrat to those who successful brought it.
But sure got people pour cold water,complain why not 3rm, why this type of design etc ... Sad sad.
ignore the noise, if you are single & like it, do apply. It better to have an assets then rent from other for life. Then few yrs later may able to buy a private for investment.
If can convert the kitchen, is equivalent to 3 room.
Faster apply - time and opportunity waits for no one.
莫待无花空折枝。。。
That mean only need to pay less then $59,000?
Congrat to those who successful brought it.
But sure got people pour cold water,complain why not 3rm, why this type of design etc ... Sad sad.
ignore the noise, if you are single & like it, do apply. It better to have an assets then rent from other for life. Then few yrs later may able to buy a private for investment.
57K is with grant. 117K is list. I guess most people will have some grant here n there. but those with income less then $1500pm will get full grant of 40K + 20K
The hdb 2 room layout is the same as the 1 bedroom unit in Skies Miltonia....haa haa.
http://sgskiesmiltonia.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/skies-1-bedroom1.pdf
The hdb 2 room layout is the same as the 1 bedroom unit in Skies Miltonia....haa haa.
http://sgskiesmiltonia.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/skies-1-bedroom1.pdf
minus off the big balcony and big aircon ledge. Just do not understand why developer has to plan in such a big aircon ledge and balcony.:tsk-tsk:
Will be nice if there is full length windows in living hall. Bedroom have full length window lagi better :p
these days it takes 50+ months to build HDB?:confused: :confused:
phantom_opera
21-03-13, 22:59
these days it takes 50+ months to build HDB?:confused: :confused:
exactly, last time Kenobi-wan said he will destory the dark side in 2y by building 100k BTOs ... so what is going on ... dark side too powerful?
:luke-and-darth:
Agree! Faster apply!
But I can't anymore as got 1x HDB & few private already.
Not sure can convert the kitchen or not, some of my single friends ( mostly male) are excited about it ! So CHEAP:D ;) :cool: :rolleyes: :p
If can convert the kitchen, is equivalent to 3 room.
Faster apply - time and opportunity waits for no one.
莫待无花空折枝。。。
Agree! Faster apply!
But I can't anymore as got 1x HDB & few private already.
Not sure can convert the kitchen or not, some of my single friends ( mostly male) are excited about it ! So CHEAP:D ;) :cool: :rolleyes: :p
do they qualify in the first place??! if i am not wrong, the new policy allowing singles, above 35, to buy 2rm flats will kick in only in June.
What talking you, only July BTO onwards open to singles.
Agree! Faster apply!
But I can't anymore as got 1x HDB & few private already.
Not sure can convert the kitchen or not, some of my single friends ( mostly male) are excited about it ! So CHEAP:D ;) :cool: :rolleyes: :p
and please, NEVER compare 2rm HDB flats with private 1BR/2BR condos. the premium you pay for the latter is security and an enjoyable environment.
phantom_opera
22-03-13, 09:23
HDB has not announced full details for singles buying 2r BTO right
what we know now is 35y old, 5k income and non-mature estate
how about MOP? how about can rent out or not
you're right, please wait for more details.
on a side note, how can bukit batok be considered a NON-MATURE estate????
They should let fg and wcl build hdbs... Look at Parc rosewood. Ready to TOP soon..
phantom_opera
22-03-13, 09:54
now must wait 4y for HDB construction already ... with MOP 5y ... 10y say bye bye to PC
Still got balloting time leh? Average couple ballots for 1-2 years before being lucky to get a choice unit
these days it takes 50+ months to build HDB?:confused: :confused:
no labour mah. more labour people will feel over run leh.
Want fast n cheap? Wont b good.
Want cheap and good? Wont b fast.
Want fast and good? Wont b cheap.
Want cheap and fast and good? Dream a dream.
Want fast n cheap? Wont b good.
Want cheap and good? Wont b fast.
Want fast and good? Wont b cheap.
Want cheap and fast and good? Dream a dream.
but Zoro said we can be "Cheaper, better and faster" leh .....
Want fast n cheap? Wont b good.
Want cheap and good? Wont b fast.
Want fast and good? Wont b cheap.
Want cheap and fast and good? Dream a dream.
Can. You must agree to open the floodgates to bring in foreign labour. Cheap, fast, good and crowded. Onz?
Govt showhand already.
Want fast n cheap? Wont b good.
Want cheap and good? Wont b fast.
Want fast and good? Wont b cheap.
Want cheap and fast and good? Dream a dream.
Want cheap, Want Fast, want Good ah.. let the cheap workfoce in loh. but cannot. coz added parameter.
Want Fast , Want cheap, Want good, and want no crowd/foreigners.
Want fast n cheap? Wont b good.
Want cheap and good? Wont b fast.
Want fast and good? Wont b cheap.
Want cheap and fast and good? Dream a dream.
shouldnt you be telling this to lim swee say and his boss?
phantom_opera
22-03-13, 11:47
PAP is now granting the wishes of those making noise ... tighten foreign labors
Now 1st side effect comes ... HDB construction take 4y to complete :banghead:
Constructors can only ramp productivity slowly .. how to over night do without foreign workers :doh:
Slowly our fellow SCs will realize all is not well, wage inflation will inflate kopitiam prices soon ... my Toast Box kopi is now $2 liao
PAP is now granting the wishes of those making noise ... tighten foreign labors
Now 1st side effect comes ... HDB construction take 4y to complete :banghead:
Constructors can only ramp productivity slowly .. how to over night do without foreign workers :doh:
Slowly our fellow SCs will realize all is not well, wage inflation will inflate kopitiam prices soon ... my Toast Box kopi is now $2 liao
Toast box kopi $2? If cannot stomach it should heed pap ministers' advice of exercising your choice to seek cheaper alternatives or drink plain water.
PAP is now granting the wishes of those making noise ... tighten foreign labors
Now 1st side effect comes ... HDB construction take 4y to complete :banghead:
Constructors can only ramp productivity slowly .. how to over night do without foreign workers :doh:
Slowly our fellow SCs will realize all is not well, wage inflation will inflate kopitiam prices soon ... my Toast Box kopi is now $2 liao
Budget 2013: New salary rules for hiring foreign workers (http://business.asiaone.com/A1Business/News/Story/A1Story20130314-408640.html)
Firms will have to pay their full-time local workers at least $1,000 a month in order to hire foreigners as part of new requirements announced by Acting Minister Tan Chuan-Jin in Parliament on Thursday.
on one hand i m happy for the local to get higher pay, on the other i m expecting my condo maintenance fee to increase soon :(
phantom_opera
22-03-13, 12:00
Toast box kopi $2? If cannot stomach it should heed pap ministers' advice of exercising your choice to seek cheaper alternatives or drink plain water.
newly opened at T3 replacing Wang Cafe ... kopi-o 1.70, banana cake $2 ... cheaper than RWS still
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/3650_498949663485895_1161735308_n.jpg
Budget 2013: New salary rules for hiring foreign workers (http://business.asiaone.com/A1Business/News/Story/A1Story20130314-408640.html)
Firms will have to pay their full-time local workers at least $1,000 a month in order to hire foreigners as part of new requirements announced by Acting Minister Tan Chuan-Jin in Parliament on Thursday.
on one hand i m happy for the local to get higher pay, on the other i m expecting my condo maintenance fee to increase soon :(
employ me as contractor. give u 20% discount $800 nia ok?
shouldnt you be telling this to lim swee say and his boss?
i dont speak to daft folks.
i dont speak to daft folks.
make sure that is reflected in how u vote ~
newly opened at T3 replacing Wang Cafe ... kopi-o 1.70, banana cake $2 ... cheaper than RWS still
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/3650_498949663485895_1161735308_n.jpg
this makes my $1.50 ice teh O kosong at people park's food centre look expensive
CondoSeeker2012
22-03-13, 13:09
this makes my $1.50 ice teh O kosong at people park's food centre look expensive
the pontian noodles at international plaza is more expensive than its branch at clementi hawker centre. iirc, pontian noodles is a franchise and toast box isn't?
the pontian noodles at international plaza is more expensive than its branch at clementi hawker centre. iirc, pontian noodles is a franchise and toast box isn't?
both are brand franchisees. please take into account the disparity in rental rates between CBD and clementi.
CondoSeeker2012
22-03-13, 13:14
both are brand franchisees. please take into account the disparity in rental rates between CBD and clementi.
there is no rental rates disparity between changi airport and peoples park? i would have tht airport would charge more
there is no rental rates disparity between changi airport and peoples park? i would have tht airport would charge more
precisely furthering my point - ice teh o kosong at non-aircon people's park food centre =$1.50, kopi O at aircon airport franchised outlet = $1.70
CondoSeeker2012
22-03-13, 13:22
precisely furthering my point - ice teh o kosong at non-aircon people's park food centre =$1.50, kopi O at aircon airport franchised outlet = $1.70
didnt know toast box is franchise, if it weren't, i was guessing answer to your question is that they have a universal price ceiling applied to all outlets
didnt know toast box is franchise, if it weren't, i was guessing answer to your question is that they have a universal price ceiling applied to all outlets
toast box is under the breadtalk group. franchisors don't usually set prices for franchisees, they merely recommend (apart from doing their usual setting up and training)
phantom_opera
22-03-13, 15:03
toast box is under the breadtalk group. franchisors don't usually set prices for franchisees, they merely recommend (apart from doing their usual setting up and training)
that is correct, in RW Sentosa, the same kopi-o above $2 (or was it $2.20) ... cannot remember
even for Subway certain place the price is slightly higher
Compare what? :tongue3:
$600,000 private VS $58,000 with same sqft? :doh:
Security? Singapore is the safer ,
enjoyable env? Private sure better view then HDB? :banghead:
and please, NEVER compare 2rm HDB flats with private 1BR/2BR condos. the premium you pay for the latter is security and an enjoyable environment.
make sure that is reflected in how u vote ~
those peeps dont contest in my grc.
while all comparing kopi price and loti price. how come 10yrs back all happyly lapping up the ice mocha or frachinno from starbucks or coffee bean foe $5 a pop now $6-7 a pop?
suddenly $2 coffee is a big issue? hmmm.
I didnt even mention TCC..... but to be fair TCC is atas price.
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