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when public transport fails, still got option of taking private transport.
now drive cars, have to pay through the nose for COE and road sinks!!!!
Ftuck Kiew oh Ftuck Kiew.........why oh why............
Bicycle - risk of getting run over by vehicles
Train - risk of track/train failure and fire hazard
Bus - risk of irregularities
LRT - risk of train failure
Car - high COE prices, and SINKHOLES
stay home lor. dont go out then. go live in a bubble. :doh: :doh: :doh:
thomastansb
20-03-13, 13:40
This is my neutral views:-
Bicycle - The park connector should be improved and hasten. Too slow. And to ask cyclist to share lane with cars, it is a joke. Only idiots will suggest this.
Train - Failure is common. Trains will breakdown so we have to accept that. It happen in all other countries. Singaporeans shouldn't be making a big fuss because it is international joke. But our trains service is really bad. Especially during peak hours.
Bus - Too few buses and I agree the timing is bad. Peak hours service is a disaster.
LRT - Peak hours disaster again.
Car - A luxury item due to limited lands. If you can pay, you buy. No such thing call need a car. Everybody also got a valid reason but who is the one to judge who need a car more? I grew up without a car and stay in 2 rooms rental flats and I am still living.
when public transport fails, still got option of taking private transport.
now drive cars, have to pay through the nose for COE and road sinks!!!!
Ftuck Kiew oh Ftuck Kiew.........why oh why............
Bicycle - risk of getting run over by vehicles
Train - risk of track/train failure and fire hazard
Bus - risk of irregularities
LRT - risk of train failure
Car - high COE prices, and SINKHOLES
This is my neutral views:-
Bicycle - The park connector should be improved and hasten. Too slow. And to ask cyclist to share lane with cars, it is a joke. Only idiots will suggest this.
Train - Failure is common. Trains will breakdown so we have to accept that. It happen in all other countries. Singaporeans shouldn't be making a big fuss because it is international joke. But our trains service is really bad. Especially during peak hours.
Bus - Too few buses and I agree the timing is bad. Peak hours service is a disaster.
LRT - Peak hours disaster again.
Car - A luxury item due to limited lands. If you can pay, you buy. No such thing call need a car. Everybody also got a valid reason but who is the one to judge who need a car more? I grew up without a car and stay in 2 rooms rental flats and I am still living.
i concur on all points, especially your take on trains.
as for cyclists, where should they cycle? on the roads or pedestrain pathways? i have had my close shaves of cyclists zipping along pedestrain walkways without care for other pavement users.
i almost smacked an old uncle, who tried to run down from behind, my sis with a toddler in her arms. although i've seen some considerate ones get down and push their bicycles when they near pedestrains, most simply can't bother. selfish morons like these should be banned from cycling on common pathways
thomastansb
20-03-13, 14:02
It is the Government's fault.
The road is too dangerous, the pavement will incur a fine if you cycle on it. It is plain stupid.
We should be cycling on the PCN but unfortunately, our PCN is slow to build, not well connected and in short, it just sucks. They really need to buck up on this.
i concur on all points, especially your take on trains.
as for cyclists, where should they cycle? on the roads or pedestrain pathways? i have had my close shaves of cyclists zipping along pedestrain walkways without care for other pavement users.
i almost smacked an old uncle, who tried to run down from behind, my sis with a toddler in her arms. although i've seen some considerate ones get down and push their bicycles when they near pedestrains, most simply can't bother. selfish morons like these should be banned from cycling on common pathways
phantom_opera
20-03-13, 14:04
bicycle is not practical during rainy days ... unless they have rain shelter along PCN
It is the Government's fault.
The road is too dangerous, the pavement will incur a fine if you cycle on it. It is plain stupid.
We should be cycling on the PCN but unfortunately, our PCN is slow to build, not well connected and in short, it just sucks. They really need to buck up on this.
PCNs are fine for connecting parks together. however, it is not feasible to extend the network throughout entire estates.
more should be done to teach cyclists basic courtesy and etiquette
thomastansb
20-03-13, 14:24
I mean like you want to cycle from Telok Blangah to East Coast, it is impossible. Not to every estate because we will need to pay 12% GST :D
PCNs are fine for connecting parks together. however, it is not feasible to extend the network throughout entire estates.
more should be done to teach cyclists basic courtesy and etiquette
I mean like you want to cycle from Telok Blangah to East Coast, it is impossible. Not to every estate because we will need to pay 12% GST :D
what i meant is from block XYZ to say, an MRT station. this is not feasible.
thomastansb
20-03-13, 14:40
Yup, agree. Not feasible at all.
what i meant is from block XYZ to say, an MRT station. this is not feasible.
Cycling is not feasible for our tropical climate. Rain, hot, humid.
We should just focus on mrt maintenance and also quality of our bus drivers.
focus on public transport, period. And dun even think about fare hikes until they solve the overcrowding and reliability issue.
as for private cars, the recent loan curbs and measures are a good start.
Car - A luxury item due to limited lands. If you can pay, you buy. No such thing call need a car. Everybody also got a valid reason but who is the one to judge who need a car more? I grew up without a car and stay in 2 rooms rental flats and I am still living.Yup... agree that 'no such thing call need a car'... everything is never a need. Most basic thing is if you can walk, you can always travel by foot. Last time people walk from province to province... anyway, coming back to our time... although I strongly believe that there is no such thing as need a car, there is a group of people who will prefer having a car then taking public transport. They can always take public transport but for safety reasons, private cars are preferred. Consider the handicapped who has the tenacity to work. Report for work daily but w tremendous difficulties. Or those who need to go for various therapies on a regular basis. Well, I've calculated taking cabs instead of owning a car and sad to say taking cab everyday is still more expensive than owning a car, despite the high COE recently. Sum up, car ownership is never a need but sometimes its still the wiser option... :cheers1: Good discussion...
Yup... agree that 'no such thing call need a car'... everything is never a need. Most basic thing is if you can walk, you can always travel by foot. Last time people walk from province to province... anyway, coming back to our time... although I strongly believe that there is no such thing as need a car, there is a group of people who will prefer having a car then taking public transport. They can always take public transport but for safety reasons, private cars are preferred. Consider the handicapped who has the tenacity to work. Report for work daily but w tremendous difficulties. Or those who need to go for various therapies on a regular basis. Well, I've calculated taking cabs instead of owning a car and sad to say taking cab everyday is still more expensive than owning a car, despite the high COE recently. Sum up, car ownership is never a need but sometimes its still the wiser option... :cheers1: Good discussion...
there are families that need car to ferry chronically-illed members to-and-fro frequently to receive treatment, and cabs may not be an option
there are families that need car to ferry chronically-illed members to-and-fro frequently to receive treatment, and cabs may not be an optionAgreed to a large extend but If really no car, sadly, cab is still the next best thing available...
Agreed to a large extend but If really no car, sadly, cab is still the next best thing available...
yup... though cab is prone to accidents:mad:
yup... though cab is prone to accidents:mad:
Drive a big truck.
NEL breakdown today during peak hour, affecting tens of thousand. But thanks to PSI of 290, its not catching the attention of everybody... :scared-2:
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