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http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property-management-news/2013/2/35240/rail-link-to-narrow-m-sia-s-pore-price-gap
It seems high speed rail link will narrow the gap b/w SG and My. Two ways this can happen:
1) MY property price increase
2) SG property price fall
In both scenarios I wonder Singapore has only to lose. Lot of Malaysian cheap workers will come and work in Singapore daily while continuing to live in KL or JB. So I wonder who will rent in Singapore, as Indians and Filipinos will go back to their countries due to the high cost of living here.
I see a free slide in property prices here, especially lot of things are happening in 2014/15/16, lots of property supply, reduction in foreigners and general elections coming. Are you guys still holding and SG property?:D
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property-management-news/2013/2/35240/rail-link-to-narrow-m-sia-s-pore-price-gap
It seems high speed rail link will narrow the gap b/w SG and My. Two ways this can happen:
1) MY property price increase
2) SG property price fall
In both scenarios I wonder Singapore has only to lose. Lot of Malaysian cheap workers will come and work in Singapore daily while continuing to live in KL or JB. So I wonder who will rent in Singapore, as Indians and Filipinos will go back to their countries due to the high cost of living here.
I see a free slide in property prices here, especially lot of things are happening in 2014/15/16, lots of property supply, reduction in foreigners and general elections coming. Are you guys still holding and SG property?:D
If there is a slide, it should be now, don't need wait so long, if it doesn't happen , means it won't happen....holding a negative property is not like stocks, it won't disappear overnight....why should rich Singaporeans sell at a discount?!
Don't worry, for several reasons:
1) Need to wait till 2020 for the train to be ready, and after that breakdown frequently to frustrate users
2) Train fare too expensive, these workers still can't afford
3) Not enough people use, so frequently like 2 hours per train, so even less people use
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property-management-news/2013/2/35240/rail-link-to-narrow-m-sia-s-pore-price-gap
It seems high speed rail link will narrow the gap b/w SG and My. Two ways this can happen:
1) MY property price increase
2) SG property price fall
In both scenarios I wonder Singapore has only to lose. Lot of Malaysian cheap workers will come and work in Singapore daily while continuing to live in KL or JB. So I wonder who will rent in Singapore, as Indians and Filipinos will go back to their countries due to the high cost of living here.
I see a free slide in property prices here, especially lot of things are happening in 2014/15/16, lots of property supply, reduction in foreigners and general elections coming. Are you guys still holding and SG property?:D
Don't worry, for several reasons:
1) Need to wait till 2020 for the train to be ready, and after that breakdown frequently to frustrate users
2) Train fare too expensive, these workers still can't afford
3) Not enough people use, so frequently like 2 hours per train, so even less people use
Absolutely, only rich people can use this train service. It will cost similar to budget air fare now. It will be used mostly by businessmen and tourists. KL population of 1.5million is not that big of an impact to sg. They will not increase or decrease sg properties. KL property on the other hand will see an increase due to many singaporeans retiring there.
Absolutely, only rich people can use this train service. It will cost similar to budget air fare now. It will be used mostly by businessmen and tourists. KL population of 1.5million is not that big of an impact to sg. They will not increase or decrease sg properties. KL property on the other hand will see an increase due to many singaporeans retiring there.
MM landed property costing 2 to 3m will be hit as singaporeans wanting to buy landed property will start looking into malaysia for a weekend home.
use to be limited to JB, now they can explore further up north in places where it safer and possibly cheaper.
i heard it all before malaysia "boleh"...:cool:
I see a free slide in property prices here, especially lot of things are happening in 2014/15/16, lots of property supply, reduction in foreigners and general elections coming. Are you guys still holding and SG property?:D
No fear. got $$$, got property..
:cheers5:
P.S me not enough bullets , so never buy any property.. it is out of my reach to get a decent one i like.. :o
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property-management-news/2013/2/35240/rail-link-to-narrow-m-sia-s-pore-price-gap
It seems high speed rail link will narrow the gap b/w SG and My. Two ways this can happen:
1) MY property price increase
2) SG property price fall
In both scenarios I wonder Singapore has only to lose. Lot of Malaysian cheap workers will come and work in Singapore daily while continuing to live in KL or JB. So I wonder who will rent in Singapore, as Indians and Filipinos will go back to their countries due to the high cost of living here.
I see a free slide in property prices here, especially lot of things are happening in 2014/15/16, lots of property supply, reduction in foreigners and general elections coming. Are you guys still holding and SG property?:D
1. Cheap workers willing to pay for high speed rail train daily to come to work? :scared-5:
2. Indians & Filipinos go back can easily find a job with high salary? So why are they here for in the first place? :rolleyes:
3. Only the M'sian will buy S'pore pty? No other foreigners are keen to buy??:D
1. Cheap workers willing to pay for high speed rail train daily to come to work? :scared-5:
2. Indians & Filipinos go back can easily find a job with high salary? So why are they here for in the first place? :rolleyes:
3. Only the M'sian will buy S'pore pty? No other foreigners are keen to buy??:D
if hi speed rail cost one SGD per trip, I will be keen to go malaysia to stay. Heck, i will even try to get a property there.
but if the cost is like japan hi speed rail, only thing that wll happen is more tourist will fly into SG and transit one day then take the rail to malaysia. Hotel would be mostly affected.:scared-3:
Let me guess, HSR train fare price most likely = budget airline airfare + changi airport taxes, should be >$100 1 way?
This way, you take plane or train no difference. HSR meant for tourists & businessmen where time is money.
if hi speed rail cost one SGD per trip, I will be keen to go malaysia to stay. Heck, i will even try to get a property there.
but if the cost is like japan hi speed rail, only thing that wll happen is more tourist will fly into SG and transit one day then take the rail to malaysia. Hotel would be mostly affected.:scared-3:
Let me guess, HSR train fare price most likely = budget airline airfare + changi airport taxes, should be >$100 1 way?
This way, you take plane or train no difference. HSR meant for tourists & businessmen where time is money.
yea..
look at the china's bullet train.. heard it is not cheap but it is pretty solid..:o
Even in a country like Taiwan where the transport fares are farely low. The HSR is pretty pricey. More relecant to business travellers who are substituting for air travel.
Let me guess, HSR train fare price most likely = budget airline airfare + changi airport taxes, should be >$100 1 way?
This way, you take plane or train no difference. HSR meant for tourists & businessmen where time is money.
Maybe 1 or 2 will choose to take the HSR..
If 4 or 5 in a car.. or even 6 to 7 in a MPV.. the most will need to max. $200 for petrol & toll charges.. to & fro
blackjack21trader
23-02-13, 17:51
let's discuss the likely location of this railway before the singapore government announcement, so that i can invest in that vicinity way before the early birds.
Thanks brothers and sisters, in advance ;)
blackjack21trader
23-02-13, 17:53
let's discuss the likely location of this railway before the singapore government announcement, so that i can invest in that vicinity way before the early birds.
Thanks brothers and sisters, in advance ;)
likely area i identified is Sembawang or Pungool East. What do you think and pray, plse share why.
blackjack21trader
23-02-13, 17:57
likely area i identified is Sembawang or Pungool East. What do you think and pray, plse share why.
Also, looks like investing in KL is good now....come to think of it, no wonder many of my old schoolmates cheong there !
GUNIANGS ! Never tell me again !
In both scenarios I wonder Singapore has only to lose. Lot of Malaysian cheap workers will come and work in Singapore daily while continuing to live in KL or JB. So I wonder who will rent in Singapore, as Indians and Filipinos will go back to their countries due to the high cost of living here.
although more will work here, the cost of the rail ticket is prohibitive to most low to mid level workers. imagine S$150 per ticket. you can't go home everyday. at most every wkend, but that means u still need a house or room in sgp.
Ticket is about S$140 to S$160 per trip. Two way trip likely S$280 to S$320.
See this:
http://m.todayonline.com//singapore/malaysia-budgets-s12b-high-speed-rail-project-sources-say
Singapore property will only up. Rental up.
Ticket is about S$140 to S$160 per trip. Two way trip likely S$280 to S$320.
See this:
http://m.todayonline.com//singapore/malaysia-budgets-s12b-high-speed-rail-project-sources-say
Singapore property will only up. Rental up.
Even cheap workers go back KL twice a week.. transport cost already S$560 (almost RM1400) per month!!! :scared-4:
Looks more like the KL richer ppl will consider buy buy buy S'pore pty!!!
When is free just come drink kopi.. MBS.. go Casino.. stay for night or two..
also means that properties ard the likely singapore train side of HSR will have good rentals i reckon
Even cheap workers go back KL twice a week.. transport cost already S$560 (almost RM1400) per month!!! :scared-4:
Looks more like the KL richer ppl will consider buy buy buy S'pore pty!!!
When is free just come drink kopi.. MBS.. go Casino.. stay for night or two..
is this a hint mabbe the new singapore HSR site will be nearish one of the casinos ? :47:
Possibly there will be frequent travel concession?
blackjack21trader
24-02-13, 07:23
likely area i identified is Sembawang or Pungool East. What do you think and pray, plse share why.
ask u guys to share the possibility of the station locations, u guys talk cork sing song here la.
blackjack21trader
24-02-13, 07:26
ask u guys to share the possibility of the station locations, u guys talk cork sing song here la.
u guys only see the superficial stuffs. MY THIRD EYE saw this rail to be linked with Guangdong eventually and final destination to be Moscow.
after completion, likely Thailand will be invited to extend this rail
blackjack21trader
24-02-13, 07:29
u guys only see the superficial stuffs. MY THIRD EYE saw this rail to be linked with Guangdong eventually and final destination to be Moscow.
after completion, likely Thailand will be invited to extend this rail
by 2030, the whole of Malaya Penisular going to be Charlie's Boom Town la.
ask u share your deduction in the likely locations, u talk cork sing songs la.
blackjack21trader
24-02-13, 07:31
by 2030, the whole of Malaya Penisular going to be Charlie's Boom Town la.
ask u share your deduction in the likely locations, u talk cork sing songs la.
At every single stops along this route of "THE GREAT RAIL" from Moscow to Shanghai to Bangkok to KL to Singapore, the movement and vibrancy of the travellers going to create a new economic paradigm la.
A NEW EAST ASIA ORDER.
GUNIANGS, now TELL ME the likely locations la- only your personal opinions la.
Hahaa...
I think likely location is near Tuas, 2nd link. Because looking at up north, if they cut thru the causeway there, it will be very disruptive, going by 2nd link there would be easier to manage. They will then need to boost the connectivity near Jurong & Tuas. KL city link to the 2nd largest CBD where there is also hotels available. Anyway, this high speed rail is not for commoners. More for business & tourists as the fares are not affordable. If time is not critical to you, u could easily take a coach to KL which cost 3 times less...
dont think there is a need to create another 3rd custom...my humble opinion. :2cents:
ask u guys to share the possibility of the station locations, u guys talk cork sing song here la.
blackjack21trader
24-02-13, 07:35
At every single stops along this route of "THE GREAT RAIL" from Moscow to Shanghai to Bangkok to KL to Singapore, the movement and vibrancy of the travellers going to create a new economic paradigm la.
A NEW EAST ASIA ORDER.
GUNIANGS, now TELL ME the likely locations la- only your personal opinions la.
Putin likely to be interested in joining the next APEC meeting la. Dun believe u see lor.
GUNIANGS !
now I go church liao, come back better submit some answers la.
blackjack21trader
24-02-13, 07:36
Hahaa...
I think likely location is near Tuas, 2nd link. Because looking at up north, if they cut thru the causeway there, it will be very disruptive, going by 2nd link there would be easier to manage. They will then need to boost the connectivity near Jurong & Tuas. KL city link to the 2nd largest CBD where there is also hotels available. Anyway, this high speed rail is not for commoners. More for business & tourists as the fares are not affordable. If time is not critical to you, u could easily take a coach to KL which cost 3 times less...my humble opinion. :2cents:
Great analysis, good brother lajia :)
The news has reported Changi Terminal maybe integrated to be part of the High Speed Rail Link transfer terminal.
blackjack21trader
24-02-13, 07:37
Putin likely to be interested in joining the next APEC meeting la. Dun believe u see lor.
GUNIANGS !
now I go church liao, come back better submit some answers la.
now i really go liao, come back here later better see some more suggestions !
phantom_opera
24-02-13, 08:18
Bro bj has good risk mgmt, cash drag is for sure
The news has reported Changi Terminal maybe integrated to be part of the High Speed Rail Link transfer terminal.
Integrate with the already crowded EW line from Tuas to Changi? :)
If you are the garment of Malaysian who owns a major part of this HSR project with 5 stations on the west coast and singapore garment investment in medini and the Ascendas science park development near nusajaya,reduce congestion, problem, ease of construction and lower construction,. where do you think Singapore will have the station.?
u guys only see the superficial stuffs. MY THIRD EYE saw this rail to be linked with Guangdong eventually and final destination to be Moscow.
after completion, likely Thailand will be invited to extend this rail
By 2050, earth will be linked to the moon, pple take high speed rocket to have mooncake and quickie with chang er and come home within the day so that CO will nit know. :scared-1:
phantom_opera
24-02-13, 11:30
Hint: flip 99LH Medini to Singaporeans ... then where do u think the station will be leh?
blackjack21trader
24-02-13, 14:50
I predict the railway to be at Woodlands.
WOAAHAHHAHEHHEHE
I predict the railway to be at Woodlands.
WOAAHAHHAHEHHEHE
U mean both the mrt and hsr linking to Malaysia will be in woodlands?
blackjack21trader
24-02-13, 15:44
U mean both the mrt and hsr linking to Malaysia will be in woodlands?
http://www.ura.gov.sg/woodlands/
WOAHAHHAHAHEHEHHE
ALL SLEEPING ARH ?
blackjack21trader
24-02-13, 15:45
http://www.ura.gov.sg/woodlands/
WOAHAHHAHAHEHEHHE
ALL SLEEPING ARH ?
actually i am the one sleeping la. it never say HSR leh.
WOAHAAHHA
blackjack21trader
24-02-13, 15:46
actually i am the one sleeping la. it never say HSR leh.
WOAHAAHHA
brother yowetan's suggestion of the location looks to be more correct leh
WOAHAAHHAHAH
so how? anymore suggestion arh ?
Where got correct?? Did i get it wrongly, pardon me...Near airport for what? So that tourists or businessmen just touch down then take train to KL? Even if their final destination is KL, garmen would want them to stay here and spend money before transit to KL, rite? The rapid transit link in woodland connecting JB is different thing if I got it correctly. So, high chance is still Tuas...:) , my guess.
brother yowetan's suggestion of the location looks to be more correct leh
WOAHAAHHAHAH
so how? anymore suggestion arh ?
blackjack21trader
24-02-13, 17:13
Where got correct?? Did i get it wrongly, pardon me...Near airport for what? So that tourists or businessmen just touch down then take train to KL? Even if their final destination is KL, garmen would want them to stay here and spend money before transit to KL, rite? The rapid transit link in woodland connecting JB is different thing if I got it correctly. So, high chance is still Tuas...:) , my guess.
halor...very good logic there. your location also very plausible leh cos i believe they said the train noisy tiobo? so connect from tuas is very possible leh ;)
i think this is a contingency plan for Sg. Next time Sg is super expensive all propertie abv $3mil so they sent many to KL and stay in 90mins.
Cannot be Changi lah, build another extra 30km of rail when Tuas will suffice.
"And with a rapid transit between JB and Singapore, that is quite good for connectivity. So, for fast-speed train (system), maybe you want it to be elsewhere which means eastern side or the western side," said Mr Khaw.
But I think most people bet it will be in the west:D
Last mrt station in the west is at Tuas west drive near Tuas link 4. The HSR station in Singapore i guess will be the empty plot next to Raffles Marina. Easy command & control (less manpower needed) at the checkpoint. Only need to construct a bridge link to existing checkpoint for the immigration officers. A station, also a bridge that link to Tuas link mrt station and some tracks are all they need to do. :D
IMO, think from M'sia perspective, the JB station they will propose might at pasir gudang, najib govt always wanted to build a 3rd link at east JB all the while, so to boost east iskandar and east Johor.
To align with that, Tuas is definitely out. Punggol east and changi will be more likely.
East now especially noth east would not be a good choice as it is earmark for residential...most dense residential area, NORTH EAST. :D too inconvenient to cut thru all this dense concrete jungle...:D
IMO, think from M'sia perspective, the JB station they will propose might at pasir gudang, najib govt always wanted to build a 3rd link at east JB all the while, so to boost east iskandar and east Johor.
To align with that, Tuas is definitely out. Punggol east and changi will be more likely.
IMO, think from M'sia perspective, the JB station they will propose might at pasir gudang, najib govt always wanted to build a 3rd link at east JB all the while, so to boost east iskandar and east Johor.
To align with that, Tuas is definitely out. Punggol east and changi will be more likely.
takes 2 hand to clap, and must therefore be in accordance with the wishes of our government as well ... although one hazards a guess of what will happen if the freak election results of 2016 or 2020 ensues a majority change in governance ... what will happen then :scared-5:
I think another question to ask is whether the decision made by a prior government on locality of the singapore train station will be binding on a subsequent and different composed governance ... it might be a tad too scary for me to imagine really :scared-4:
paisei, just like to ask... if coming to east/north east... i see got pulau ubin and tekong... can go over or under these 2 islands ?
paisei, just like to ask... if coming to east/north east... i see got pulau ubin and tekong... can go over or under these 2 islands ?
Best place is still north. Not too far for both east & west. Good for north, northest & central north. Where? Sembawang Shipyard. Acquire some land back.
so u think it make sense for us to have another custom??::o
more customs, less control...:2cents:
Best place is still north. Not too far for both east & west. Good for north, northest & central north. Where? Sembawang Shipyard. Acquire some land back.
Closest indication that HSR is cbd to cbd
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/2/23/business/12745013&sec=business
Absolutely, only rich people can use this train service. It will cost similar to budget air fare now. It will be used mostly by businessmen and tourists. KL population of 1.5million is not that big of an impact to sg. They will not increase or decrease sg properties. KL property on the other hand will see an increase due to many singaporeans retiring there.
I disagree. There will be coach and business class cabin cater for different group. the same way most high speed rail are manage.
so u think it make sense for us to have another custom??::o
more customs, less control...:2cents:
Heehee. This was what i tot earlier but to make most of us happy, north is still the best place & "fair" equal travel distance. :D
Last mrt station in the west is at Tuas west drive near Tuas link 4. The HSR station in Singapore i guess will be the empty plot next to Raffles Marina. Easy command & control (less manpower needed) at the checkpoint. Only need to construct a bridge link to existing checkpoint for the immigration officers. A station, also a bridge that link to Tuas link mrt station and some tracks are all they need to do. :D
so u think it make sense for us to have another custom??::o
more customs, less control...:2cents:
I think a new custom with a more seamless procedure will be great. Best is if passenger can clear both customs with just a single stop instead or two. This will help reduces train down time and be on schedule. Honestly it will defeat the purpose of high speed if the train end up stuck at custom for 30-40 mins
this is cross border, SG & Mal....not london and paris per se...if clearing custom is so easy, i will be very worried! :eek:
besides, it is not efficient to construct another custom just to cater for these group of ppl.:2cents:
I think a new custom with a more seamless procedure will be great. Best is if passenger can clear both customs with just a single stop instead or two. This will help reduces train down time and be on schedule. Honestly it will defeat the purpose of high speed if the train end up stuck at custom for 30-40 mins
NorthernStar
24-02-13, 22:48
Singapore has many customs. Tanah merah ferry terminal, changi village ferry termnal, marina south, tuas, woodlands, changi airport, seletar airport. I counted 7...
My guess is seletar airport area...:D
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1256123/1/.html
inside the report, KBW said:
"But he said it is unlikely for the high-speed rail system between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur to be sited in Woodlands, "because in the North, with our developments, as you can see, would be quite congested".
"And with a rapid transit between JB and Singapore, that is quite good for connectivity. So, for fast-speed train (system), maybe you want it to be elsewhere which means eastern side or the western side," said Mr Khaw"
Closest indication that HSR is cbd to cbd
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/2/23/business/12745013&sec=business
I can understand the convenient of having the HSR station in Cbd,
But we spent so much effort to get back the tanjong pagar rail station and the railway track land; so fast want to build another station in Cbd?
this is cross border, SG & Mal....not london and paris per se...if clearing custom is so easy, i will be very worried! :eek:
besides, it is not efficient to construct another custom just to cater for these group of ppl.:2cents:
Would spending usd8 billion on a hsr project that end up being stuck at the border custom consider as efficient?
There is nothing to be worried. Having one integrated custom does mean you have less security, in fact by doing so will help divert more passenger through hsr due to the speed etc.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1256123/1/.html
inside the report, KBW said:
"But he said it is unlikely for the high-speed rail system between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur to be sited in Woodlands, "because in the North, with our developments, as you can see, would be quite congested".
"And with a rapid transit between JB and Singapore, that is quite good for connectivity. So, for fast-speed train (system), maybe you want it to be elsewhere which means eastern side or the western side," said Mr Khaw"
I see only 2 possibility. It's either tuas or changi airport in the east to link it to Klia. But the latter would require plenty of thinking.
NorthernStar
25-02-13, 06:35
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1256123/1/.html
inside the report, KBW said:
"But he said it is unlikely for the high-speed rail system between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur to be sited in Woodlands, "because in the North, with our developments, as you can see, would be quite congested".
"And with a rapid transit between JB and Singapore, that is quite good for connectivity. So, for fast-speed train (system), maybe you want it to be elsewhere which means eastern side or the western side," said Mr Khaw"
haha... what i can see is: 20 years needed just to develop the Woodlands regional center and if North is "quite congested" then how about the other places? tcss only.... I rather he said "we have no plan for HRS in woodlands".. straight and sincere..
haha... what i can see is: 20 years needed just to develop the Woodlands regional center and if North is "quite congested" then how about the other places? tcss only.... I rather he said "we have no plan for HRS in woodlands".. straight and sincere..
is this not a transport ministry decision?
NorthernStar
25-02-13, 07:10
is this not a transport ministry decision?
i would think both ministries plan this. ie. MND + LTA
NorthernStar
25-02-13, 07:24
Anyway, IMO, for better connectivity, i would prefer the HSR to be built near Changi Airport. However, i guess, for better interests of Sin, Tuas + Iskandar will be the better choice...
My previous guess of Seletar area cater for nearer access to Changi Airport but also can be accessed by more people here.. Tuas is too far off..i rather take MRT to JB's rail and board the HRS in JB (buy tickets in RM can be also cheaper if you board in SG and buy in SGD)
Even in a country like Taiwan where the transport fares are farely low. The HSR is pretty pricey. More relecant to business travellers who are substituting for air travel.
For Taiwan HSR, many of the stations are not near the local cities. Need to take shuttle bus. Could be 20 mins journey.
West has the best chance as the Malaysian Transport minister indicated that stops will be in towns on the western region of the peninsular.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KL-Singapore_High_Speed_Railway_Info.jpg
The HSR line can be built alongside the existing 2nd link across to malaysia. Otherwise, there will be too many custom office. There is also fewer land to be acquired on this side of the Singapore. Imagine the amount of land that will be acquired if coming from changi airport. It is also a good opportunity for Singapore to further develop the tuas area with the development of the tuas mrt station.
http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m356/DC33_2008/KL-Singapore_High_Speed_Railway_Info_zpsa37440d5.jpg
$50-60 for bus but longer travel time
or
$120-$150 for railway ride at probably 20-30% shorter time than bus?
:o
Just not Woodlands check point.
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FEBRUARY 25, 2013
Khaw unveils Woodlands regional hub plans
Major commercial hub in the north will take 15-20 years to fully develop
BY ONG CHOR HAO
[SINGAPORE] National Development Minister Khaw Boon Wan yesterday sketched out what Woodlands Regional Centre will be like.
With 100 hectares of space available for development, Woodlands Regional Centre is a key component in reshaping northern Singapore laid out in the recent Land Use plan.
It is expected to serve as a major commercial hub in the north and will take about 15-20 years to fully develop, Mr Khaw said during a community event at Woodlands Ring Road.
But he noted that this time frame for development is in line with the government's prior efforts to spread the population out and bring jobs closer to home. The first such effort started in Tampines in 1992, with the development of Tampines Regional Centre. Jurong Regional Centre was next, launched in 2008.
Woodlands Regional Centre will tap the location's unique features, such as waterfront areas and proximity to Johor Baru, Mr Khaw said.
When completed, it will comprise two precincts: Woodlands North Coast and Woodlands Central.
Woodlands North Coast includes the area between Republic Polytechnic and Woodlands Waterfront. The idea is to create a waterfront destination with a mix of business, residential and lifestyle uses.
For Woodlands Central (the area around Woodlands MRT Station), planners envisage a pedestrian-friendly retail hub for leisure and community events.
Accessibility to Woodlands Regional Centre will improve in "the near future", the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) said.
Besides being served by the North-South MRT line, the area will see the addition of two new MRT stations under the Thomson Line.
The future North South Expressway will also link Woodlands, as well as the likes of Sembawang and Yishun, to the city.
"And the planned future rail link to Johor will also enhance our connectivity to Malaysia," URA added.
But a new high-speed rail link between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore announced last Tuesday is unlikely to be housed there, Channel NewsAsia reported Mr Khaw as saying.
"(It's) unlikely to be in the north because in the north - with our development, as you can see - it will be quite congested."
Woodlands Regional Centre forms part of the new North Coast Innovation Corridor, which stretches from Woodlands to Punggol, presented in the Land Use plan last month.
Besides the expansion of Woodlands Regional Centre, the corridor will also see land being set aside for additional industrial and commercial use, as well as the future development of Seletar Regional Centre.
The plans for Woodlands Regional Centre are preliminary, and URA has launched a website to gather public feedback. It has also invited suggested names for the two new precincts.
The plans for Woodlands Regional Centre will be fine-tuned and subsequently exhibited with the draft Master Plan later this year following the feedback and consultation.
Land use in Singapore is governed by the Master Plan. The latest version has been in place since 2008 and is due for an update, Mr Khaw noted. Following the public viewing and comments, Master Plan 2013 will be finalised next year.
phantom_opera
25-02-13, 10:44
Kenobi-wan already give so clear hint .. not North what else, cannot be East right? Then must be WEST lah
:doh:
The terminating stations of the link would be at the former site of the Tanjung Puteri Lorry Custom Complex here and in the vicinity of the Republic Polytechnic in Singapore.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=%2F2013%2F2%2F25%2Fbusiness%2F12742994&sec=business
Huh. Why liddat. Each say one thing...
Early signs of comms breakdown. Oh no.
The terminating stations of the link would be at the former site of the Tanjung Puteri Lorry Custom Complex here and in the vicinity of the Republic Polytechnic in Singapore.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=%2F2013%2F2%2F25%2Fbusiness%2F12742994&sec=business
this is RTS.
NorthernStar
25-02-13, 11:58
go west...:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn-ofIAbv-w
this is RTS.
Thanks for clarification. :cheers1:
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20130221003228/Article/index_html
alreadi announced on 21 FEB 2013
wah khaw too slow lah....
If at Punggol, best, but master plan 2013 will need to factor this in.
Foreigner flight landed at Changi or Seletar can just travel less then 10mins to take fast train to KL.
Govt Strategy is good -
South - Sentosa , CBD, Marina :D
East - Changi Airport , Expo :)
North - Work in process at Seletar airport , Punggol :rolleyes:
West - Work not yet start for 2nd Financial Hub, 2nd Link, Water Taxi to Nusajaya :cool:
Just hope 10yrs later, 2023, most of things are up & running... Don't forget everything's come with Risk :beats-me-man:
Mr Khaw said yet decide where, while Malaysia newspaper already mention...?
"" The alignment will be starting from Kuala Lumpur and pass through Seremban, Malacca, Pagoh, Batu Pahat and the Iskandar Malaysia region before ending at the Tuas checkpoint in Johor Baru.""
Hope it will not be repeat 1990s period, you can said what you want, but other party actually yet agree...
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20130221003228/Article/index_html
alreadi announced on 21 FEB 2013
wah khaw too slow lah....
phantom_opera
25-02-13, 14:09
very unlikely TSR will get a station at JB Sentral due to complexity of land acquisition which does not benefit BN
to max benefit to BN ... will be Nusajaya (from Batu Pahat to Nusajava a lot of no man land)
your best bet .. if u own Horizon Hill or Bukit Indah freehold just hold to it ... die die tong until HSR station opens ...
very unlikely TSR will get a station at JB Sentral due to complexity of land acquisition which does not benefit BN
to max benefit to BN ... will be Nusajaya (from Batu Pahat to Nusajava a lot of no man land)
your best bet .. if u own Horizon Hill or Bukit Indah freehold just hold to it ... die die tong until HSR station opens ...
if KenoBiWan's jedi claims are true, won't it be complicated if the HSR station is housed on the eastern side of SG? although can understand the reasons of leveraging on existing travel nodes, i can't picture a bullet train rail running across the island from changi to tuas, before turning into MY.
if it cuts N or NW across from changi into MY, then it complicates matters even more
NorthernStar
25-02-13, 15:00
if KenoBiWan's jedi claims are true, won't it be complicated if the HSR station is housed on the eastern side of SG? although can understand the reasons of leveraging on existing travel nodes, i can't picture a bullet train rail running across the island from changi to tuas, before turning into MY.
if it cuts N or NW across from changi into MY, then it complicates matters even more
The old plan hinted that the HSR will turn to east after Batu Pahat and may stop at Senai Airport and then turn south to JB or East of JB before it terminated in the North or East of Singapore..
After a few years of Nusajaya development, the Iskandar developers seem to successfully influence the MY gov to drop a station in Nusajaya..:2cents:
The old plan hinted that the HSR will turn to east after Batu Pahat and may stop at Senai Airport and then turn south to JB or East of JB before it terminated in the North or East of Singapore..
After a few years of Nusajaya development, the Iskandar developers seem to successfully influence the MY gov to drop a station in Nusajaya..:2cents:
then it will be a battle of political influence and will. previous reports indicated a station in tuas leh
NorthernStar
25-02-13, 15:07
then it will be a battle of political influence and will. previous reports indicated a station in tuas leh
Maybe last time SG gov chosen Tuas while the planner in MY want Woodlands...:D
Now both sides have aligned...
Malaysia first station will likely to be at Nusajaya (nearer to 2nd link -Tuas). Singapore's HSR station will likely to be on the west side.
The Star Online (http://archives.thestar.com.my/default.asp) > Business
Monday February 25, 2013
Nusajaya earmarked for for S'Pore-M'sia high-speed rail station
IRDA CEO says spacious area will be a better choice for project
By ZAZALI MUSA
[email protected] (
[email protected])
http://archives.thestar.com.my/archives/2013/2/25/business/ismail-ibrahim-iskandar-chief-b3.jpg Ismail: ‘We are giving ourselves ample time on the project.’
JOHOR BARU: Nusajaya in Iskandar Malaysia has been earmarked as one of the three stop stations in Johor for the proposed high-speed rail (HSR) linking Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.
Iskandar Regional Development Authority chief executive officer Datuk Ismail Ibrahim (http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/?q=Datuk Ismail Ibrahim) said as a green-field area, Nusajaya would definitely be a better choice for the stop station.
Ismail said several issues had to be looked into in the development of the HSR, including land acquisition and the relocation of residents affected by the project.
“The type of users of the service will be what finally determines the terminals or the stop stations for the system from KL to Singapore,'' he told StarBiz.
On Wednesday, Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha (http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/?q=Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha) said five towns in the country had been earmarked as “stop stations” in the initial plan for the HSR; Seremban, Ayer Keroh, Muar, Batu Pahat and Iskandar Malaysia.
Malaysia and Singapore had on Tuesday jointly announced their agreement to build the HSR between the republic and Kuala Lumpur, expected to be completed by 2020.
The proposed project will cut travel time between the two capitals to just 90 minutes from the five hours of driving and seven hours by rail at present.
“Nusajaya, spanning 9,712.45 ha, is a good location for the stop station as opposed to the existing JB Sentral KTM station here which is facing space constraints,'' said Ismail.
He said the Nusajaya terminal would be connected to Kempas Baru, which had been designated as an integrated public transportation hub for Iskandar Malaysia.
Ismail said it would have all modes of transportation connecting to different flagship development zones in Iskandar Malaysia, with taxis, rapid bus transits and intra-city commuter train services for commuters.
On the Malaysia-Singapore Rapid Transit System (RTS) link, he said both countries did not have to wait for the one-year cycle to make a decision on the project.
“We are giving ourselves ample time on the project. If both governments find the study is good, then it can start anytime,'' Ismail said, adding that there would be two options for the RTS project linking Johor Baru and Singapore for the trains to either run above ground (grate) or via undersea tunnel.
He said the first option could be a causeway (a land bridge), while the second option could either be a low bridge or a high bridge.
A low bridge is anything below 15 metres in height, which is impassable by boats, while a high bridge is more than 35 metres or equivalent to a seven-storey building that would allow a liner to pass through.
Ismail said if the undersea tunnel were chosen for the project, then there would also be a choice of it being either a sunken tunnel or a bore tunnel.
He said the undersea tunnel was a more favourable option as it would cause minimal disruption to traffic movements during the construction period, as the project would be located nearby the Customs, Immigration and Quarantine (CIQ) complexes of Malaysia and Singapore.
“However, the final outcome on the type of link to be built will all depend on the recommendations of the study for the two governments involved as well as costing,' he elaborated.
Ismail said it did not matter what the final choice was, but the main objective of the RTS was to improve connectivity and accessibility between Johor Baru and Singapore.
The terminating stations of the link would be at the former site of the Tanjung Puteri Lorry Custom Complex here and in the vicinity of the Republic Polytechnic in Singapore.
The RTS link is targeted to be up and operating by 2018 and have a co-located (CIQ) facility in Singapore and a co-located CIQ facility here so that commuters need to clear immigration only once for each way of travel.
The Johor Causeway, which is about 1.06 km long, was completed in 1932 and links Johor Baru to Woodlands on the other side of the Straits of Johor.
About 80,000 to 100,000 vehicles use it daily.
Johor and Singapore are also connected via the Second Link, a dual three-lane carriageway linking Tanjung Kupang to Tuas in Singapore. The bridge is about 1.9 km long.
© 1995-2013 Star Publications (Malaysia) Bhd (Co No 10894-D)
Malaysia first station will likely to be at Nusajaya (nearer to 2nd link -Tuas). Singapore's HSR station will likely to be on the west side.
The Star Online (http://archives.thestar.com.my/default.asp) > Business
Monday February 25, 2013
Nusajaya earmarked for for S'Pore-M'sia high-speed rail station
IRDA CEO says spacious area will be a better choice for project
By ZAZALI MUSA
[email protected] (
[email protected])
http://archives.thestar.com.my/archives/2013/2/25/business/ismail-ibrahim-iskandar-chief-b3.jpg Ismail: ‘We are giving ourselves ample time on the project.’
JOHOR BARU: Nusajaya in Iskandar Malaysia has been earmarked as one of the three stop stations in Johor for the proposed high-speed rail (HSR) linking Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.
Iskandar Regional Development Authority chief executive officer Datuk Ismail Ibrahim (http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/?q=Datuk Ismail Ibrahim) said as a green-field area, Nusajaya would definitely be a better choice for the stop station.
Ismail said several issues had to be looked into in the development of the HSR, including land acquisition and the relocation of residents affected by the project.
“The type of users of the service will be what finally determines the terminals or the stop stations for the system from KL to Singapore,'' he told StarBiz.
On Wednesday, Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha (http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/?q=Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha) said five towns in the country had been earmarked as “stop stations” in the initial plan for the HSR; Seremban, Ayer Keroh, Muar, Batu Pahat and Iskandar Malaysia.
Malaysia and Singapore had on Tuesday jointly announced their agreement to build the HSR between the republic and Kuala Lumpur, expected to be completed by 2020.
The proposed project will cut travel time between the two capitals to just 90 minutes from the five hours of driving and seven hours by rail at present.
“Nusajaya, spanning 9,712.45 ha, is a good location for the stop station as opposed to the existing JB Sentral KTM station here which is facing space constraints,'' said Ismail.
He said the Nusajaya terminal would be connected to Kempas Baru, which had been designated as an integrated public transportation hub for Iskandar Malaysia.
Ismail said it would have all modes of transportation connecting to different flagship development zones in Iskandar Malaysia, with taxis, rapid bus transits and intra-city commuter train services for commuters.
On the Malaysia-Singapore Rapid Transit System (RTS) link, he said both countries did not have to wait for the one-year cycle to make a decision on the project.
“We are giving ourselves ample time on the project. If both governments find the study is good, then it can start anytime,'' Ismail said, adding that there would be two options for the RTS project linking Johor Baru and Singapore for the trains to either run above ground (grate) or via undersea tunnel.
He said the first option could be a causeway (a land bridge), while the second option could either be a low bridge or a high bridge.
A low bridge is anything below 15 metres in height, which is impassable by boats, while a high bridge is more than 35 metres or equivalent to a seven-storey building that would allow a liner to pass through.
Ismail said if the undersea tunnel were chosen for the project, then there would also be a choice of it being either a sunken tunnel or a bore tunnel.
He said the undersea tunnel was a more favourable option as it would cause minimal disruption to traffic movements during the construction period, as the project would be located nearby the Customs, Immigration and Quarantine (CIQ) complexes of Malaysia and Singapore.
“However, the final outcome on the type of link to be built will all depend on the recommendations of the study for the two governments involved as well as costing,' he elaborated.
Ismail said it did not matter what the final choice was, but the main objective of the RTS was to improve connectivity and accessibility between Johor Baru and Singapore.
The terminating stations of the link would be at the former site of the Tanjung Puteri Lorry Custom Complex here and in the vicinity of the Republic Polytechnic in Singapore.
The RTS link is targeted to be up and operating by 2018 and have a co-located (CIQ) facility in Singapore and a co-located CIQ facility here so that commuters need to clear immigration only once for each way of travel.
The Johor Causeway, which is about 1.06 km long, was completed in 1932 and links Johor Baru to Woodlands on the other side of the Straits of Johor.
About 80,000 to 100,000 vehicles use it daily.
Johor and Singapore are also connected via the Second Link, a dual three-lane carriageway linking Tanjung Kupang to Tuas in Singapore. The bridge is about 1.9 km long.
© 1995-2013 Star Publications (Malaysia) Bhd (Co No 10894-D)
but jedi master KenoBiWan stated it's either east or west. not over till the jedi fat lady sings
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who need HSR when the return tic to Penang is only $68.......siow!!!
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