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rymccondo77
14-02-13, 17:02
From Channel News Asia:
Former Central Narcotics Bureau (CNB) chief Ng Boon Gay is not guilty of corruption in a high-profile sex-for-contracts court case.
The verdict was handed down by District Judge Siva Shanmugam on Thursday afternoon.
He gave Mr Ng an acquittal amounting to a discharge, saying there was no corrupt element involved.
The judge accepted Mr Ng's evidence that he had no ulterior motive, let alone corrupt intent, in accepting oral sex from Ms Cecilia Sue.
He also said he had no reason to believe that Ms Sue's offer of oral sex was intended as an act of inducement.
The judge said the intentions of Ms Sue and Mr Ng were "innocuous".
The prosecution, he said, failed to prove its case.
The judge also found that Ms Sue was not credible as a witness.
He said her explanations on inconsistencies in her statements to the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) and evidence in court were inadequate and unconvincing.
Judge Shanmugam found Mr Ng's evidence to be consistent and credible.
Mr Ng, 46, was visibly relieved with the verdict.
After the verdict was read, Mr Ng's wife, Mdm Yap Yen Yen, broke into tears, while some in the public gallery clapped.
Mr Ng's lawyer, Mr Tan Chee Meng, told reporters that they are extremely happy with the outcome.
Mr Ng said: "It's very nice to get acquitted on Valentine's Day."
The Attorney-General's Chambers will review the grounds for the judge's decision before deciding on whether it will or will not appeal against the ruling.
He was charged in June last year with four counts of obtaining sexual favours from Ms Sue, who was a sales manager for two IT vendors.
Mr Ng allegedly breached the Prevention of Corruption Act by engaging in sexual acts with Ms Sue on four occasions, between June and December in 2011.
Ms Sue, 36, was the sales manager of Hitachi Data Systems from June to November 2011.
She joined Oracle Corporation Singapore in December in 2011 as its senior sales manager.
Nr Ng was accused of furthering the business interests of the two IT companies in their dealings with CNB in exchange for sexual favours from Ms Sue.
After a closely-watched trial, both the prosecution and defence made their closing arguments late last month.
- CNA/xq
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Not guilty verdict - Valentine's day gift for Mr Ng !!!
can he get his old job back?
rymccondo77
14-02-13, 17:23
can he get his old job back?
Does he want to go back to his old job?
he could write a book about his fight!
can he get his old job back?
After he returned all the sexual favour he had received
phantom_opera
14-02-13, 17:34
a book by Ng Boon Gay
oral, moral and horror :D
can he get his old job back?
Even he could get back to his old job.... he still miss the "blow job" :D
CondoInterested
14-02-13, 17:59
CNA news is slow, Yahoo sg came with the news first.
ClemenceLY
14-02-13, 18:36
I think the CNB chief's lawyer fee would not come cheap....
Does it mean we (tax payers) are paying for this wayang show? :doh:
There is another case against the civil defense chief, hope it would not create another mess...
he spend $500k ...
If he got 10 blows.... Its like $50K per blow
If he got 10 blows.... Its like $50K per blow
If u break down in to min, wonder how much per min??
the lawyers are outstanding..grill the officer upside down..
They are specialise in oral case..
If u break down in to min, wonder how much per min??
That's 1 min per blow approximately
Wonder what will happen to Cecilia Sue? :rolleyes:
That's 1 min per blow approximately
Ic ... So after all , there no happy ending...
Wonder what will happen to Cecilia Sue? :rolleyes:
So....Most ppl are interest in her then him.
As long as he does not resign, or just suspended for work
he can get back to his job
the lawyers are outstanding..grill the officer upside down..
They are specialized in oral case..
It could all be just accident. He happened to have his pants unzip and she could just happened to fell over, where she accidentally slipped it in her mouth. And it's happened on several occasions, completely by accident...... The defense rest.
rymccondo77
14-02-13, 19:38
Just found out that he is still subject to possible disciplinary actions due to serious personal misconduct that could result in being asked to resign or being dismissed.
he might as well retire...
hope he got some good passive income :o
a book by Ng Boon Gay
oral, moral and horror :D
What about "A blown-away job", "A job blown away" or "A job blown too far"? :D :D :D
rymccondo77
14-02-13, 20:30
Think some of us here can be the editor for his new book :)
buttercarp
14-02-13, 20:59
he spend $500k ...
So since he is acquitted, will he get to claim his lawyer fees from the ones who brought the case against him? Btw ....who are they?
From taxpayer's money.
So since he is acquitted, will he get to claim his lawyer fees from the ones who brought the case against him? Btw ....who are they?
buttercarp
14-02-13, 21:02
From taxpayer's money.
Why is that so?
Who brought him to court?
I haven't figured out who reported on him in the first place. Any kind soul wishes to enlighten me?
from the one who didnt get the blow
from the one who didnt get the blow
This is quite vague... :beats-me-man:
The biggest winners as usual are the lawyers...
This is quite vague... :beats-me-man:
The biggest winners as usual are the lawyers...
In this case the defendant is the one with the biggest "wiener"
Looking forward to the law professor's case.
Just found out that he is still subject to possible disciplinary actions due to serious personal misconduct that could result in being asked to resign or being dismissed.
ClemenceLY
14-02-13, 22:38
In this case the defendant is the one with the biggest "wiener"
And the biggest loser ? Everyone here who paid taxes to fund the lawyers fee for their entertaining performance....on this most screw up case. :simmering:
rymccondo77
14-02-13, 22:56
Now the big question is whether the Attorney-General's Chambers will appeal against the ruling.
so the way to win is for both parties to cooperate.
star witness is to cooperate with CPIB, to trick the CPIB then turn hostile in court.
sure the case become weakened already.
like the NUS law prof case. star witness also turn hostile.
both parties then charge CPIB force them to give statements under duress.
will the star witness be charged for perjury? dont think so.
he won't get his job back. civil service will still proceed with disciplinary actions - for having an affair :doh: :doh:
i suspect someone up there has a personal vendetta against him. since when fooling around warrants formal disciplinary action!! :doh:
if this is true, then michael palmer got off the hook lightly
Looking forward to the law professor's case.
to me, it had been clear that prosecution has no case at all. how on earth does having an affair equate to bribery? unless the prosecution can prove there was clear intent, otherwise the witness involved would never get herself jailed by admitting to the act of bribery.
i wonder whether Ng's wife will now give him "that" thing.
civil service say he can be demoted , fired and 2 more options...
coz he admit to getting blowjob. Lesson learnt, those in CS better not anyhow do BJ....
civil service say he can be demoted , fired and 2 more options...
coz he admit to getting blowjob. Lesson learnt, those in CS better not anyhow do BJ....
if they do proceed, it will open up a pandora's box - anyone caught having an affair will be disciplined.
is this fair? shouldn't an employee be judged based on performance, rather than moral values?
if they do proceed, it will open up a pandora's box - anyone caught having an affair will be disciplined.
is this fair? shouldn't an employee be judged based on performance, rather than moral values?
I guess it gets more tricky as he is a uniformed officer... and uniformed groups usually need to upkeep their image in the public ...and will be penalized for personal misconduct.
I guess it gets more tricky as he is a uniformed officer... and uniformed groups usually need to upkeep their image in the public ...and will be penalized for personal misconduct.
when you talk about image, is it professional image? should their private lives be hung out in public for scrutiny?
just to clarify, i do not condone this guy's actions or marital affairs. my point is that to pursue further action, it opens up a slippery slope
rymccondo77
15-02-13, 09:19
It also depends on the values of the organisation that you are working in.
If you do something that 'contravenes' the values, you could be disciplined (e.g. demoted, docked pay, asked to resign / step down, dismissed)
His career in the civil service is long over.
are lawyers similar to doctors?
meaning good lawyer go to private practice and lousy lawyer work in government?
why would anyone forgo 500k in legal fees if he is good enough?
if they do proceed, it will open up a pandora's box - anyone caught having an affair will be disciplined.
is this fair? shouldn't an employee be judged based on performance, rather than moral values?
I think poor moral values also the Beginning of leading up to eventual slippery road of Corruption or Corrupt practices.
Just look at our neigbouring countries. :banghead:
It also depends on the values of the organisation that you are working in.
If you do something that 'contravenes' the values, you could be disciplined (e.g. demoted, docked pay, asked to resign / step down, dismissed)
apart from being in priesthood, which organization explicitly states that you can't fool around in your private life? i have not heard of any personally.
can you imagine the implications? if i know my boss is fooling around outside of work and i aspire to take his place, hire a PI and complain to HR?
rymccondo77
15-02-13, 13:32
apart from being in priesthood, which organization explicitly states that you can't fool around in your private life? i have not heard of any personally.
can you imagine the implications? if i know my boss is fooling around outside of work and i aspire to take his place, hire a PI and complain to HR?
See this (a rare case, but nevertheless an example from the corporate world):
Incoming Lockheed CEO fired after admitting to affair
By Andrea Shalal-Esa
WASHINGTON | Fri Nov 9, 2012 11:54pm EST
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lockheed Martin Corp on Friday fired its incoming Chief Executive Christopher Kubasik after he admitted to an improper relationship with a subordinate, and it appointed Marillyn Hewson to replace him.
Kubasik, 51, who was the defense contractor's president and chief operating officer, had been slated to become CEO in January, replacing Bob Stevens.
In a statement, Kubasik expressed remorse. "I remain confident in the future of the company. I regret that my conduct in this matter did not meet the standards to which I have always held myself," Kubasik said.
During a special session on Friday, the company's board named Hewson, 58, to replace Kubasik as president and chief operating officer immediately.
She was also elected to succeed Stevens as CEO effective January 1, 2013.
In 2012, Hewson was ranked No. 19 on the annual Fortune magazine list of the most powerful women in U.S. business (http://www.reuters.com/finance?lc=int_mb_1001). Her new role at the top of the Pentagon's largest defense contractor should push her much higher.
Stevens said he was "deeply disappointed and genuinely saddened" by what he called a "very unfortunate moment." But the situation should not undermine its standing with the Pentagon, other customers or its shareholders, he said.
Lockheed has long prided itself on rigorous ethics rules, even as its rival Boeing Co (http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/overview?symbol=BA.N&lc=int_mb_1001) was plagued with problems that led to the resignation of two chief executives and prison time for two former senior executives.
"I don't believe the company's in crisis," Stevens told reporters, citing the Lockheed's strong team of leaders and continued growth prospects. "We believe that strategically and operationally and financially we will not miss a beat." He stressed that Kubasik's actions "did not affect the company's operational or financial performance."
Stevens said he would become executive chairman and would work closely with Hewson on the leadership transition throughout the coming year.
He said the Bethesda, Maryland, based company had no immediate plans to name a chief operating officer to serve alongside Hewson, whom he described as "an exceptional leader with impeccable credentials."
Hewson said the company had proven resilient during previous management changes and that it would remain focused on meeting its commitments, cutting costs and drumming up new business (http://www.reuters.com/finance?lc=int_mb_1001).
"We will move forward beyond this temporary distraction together," Hewson, told reporters.
Stevens said Lockheed hired an independent investigator in October to look into the matter after an employee came forward with concerns about Kubasik's relationship with another staff member.
The investigation ended on Friday when the board asked for, and received, Kubasik's resignation. He admitted to having "a close personal relationship with a subordinate employee" that violated the company's code of ethics and business conduct.
Stevens said the company's swift actions showed its "unflinching commitment to ethics and integrity in everything that we do."
He said the woman involved in the relationship with Kubasik had also left Lockheed.
The news about Kubasik's improper relationship emerged hours after CIA Director David Petraeus resigned after admitting to an extramarital affair.
Lockheed disclosed in a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that it would pay Kubasik $3.5 million in severance, but he would not receive a separate bonus for 2012.
Hewson has been with Lockheed Martin since 1983. She was named president and chief operating officer-elect in April.
Lockheed shares rose to $90.04 after hours after closing at $89.98 at the New York Stock Exchange on Friday.
See this (a rare case, but nevertheless an example from the corporate world):
Incoming Lockheed CEO fired after admitting to affair
By Andrea Shalal-Esa
WASHINGTON | Fri Nov 9, 2012 11:54pm EST
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Lockheed Martin Corp on Friday fired its incoming Chief Executive Christopher Kubasik after he admitted to an improper relationship with a subordinate, and it appointed Marillyn Hewson to replace him.
Kubasik, 51, who was the defense contractor's president and chief operating officer, had been slated to become CEO in January, replacing Bob Stevens.
In a statement, Kubasik expressed remorse. "I remain confident in the future of the company. I regret that my conduct in this matter did not meet the standards to which I have always held myself," Kubasik said.
During a special session on Friday, the company's board named Hewson, 58, to replace Kubasik as president and chief operating officer immediately.
She was also elected to succeed Stevens as CEO effective January 1, 2013.
In 2012, Hewson was ranked No. 19 on the annual Fortune magazine list of the most powerful women in U.S. business (http://www.reuters.com/finance?lc=int_mb_1001). Her new role at the top of the Pentagon's largest defense contractor should push her much higher.
Stevens said he was "deeply disappointed and genuinely saddened" by what he called a "very unfortunate moment." But the situation should not undermine its standing with the Pentagon, other customers or its shareholders, he said.
Lockheed has long prided itself on rigorous ethics rules, even as its rival Boeing Co (http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/overview?symbol=BA.N&lc=int_mb_1001) was plagued with problems that led to the resignation of two chief executives and prison time for two former senior executives.
"I don't believe the company's in crisis," Stevens told reporters, citing the Lockheed's strong team of leaders and continued growth prospects. "We believe that strategically and operationally and financially we will not miss a beat." He stressed that Kubasik's actions "did not affect the company's operational or financial performance."
Stevens said he would become executive chairman and would work closely with Hewson on the leadership transition throughout the coming year.
He said the Bethesda, Maryland, based company had no immediate plans to name a chief operating officer to serve alongside Hewson, whom he described as "an exceptional leader with impeccable credentials."
Hewson said the company had proven resilient during previous management changes and that it would remain focused on meeting its commitments, cutting costs and drumming up new business (http://www.reuters.com/finance?lc=int_mb_1001).
"We will move forward beyond this temporary distraction together," Hewson, told reporters.
Stevens said Lockheed hired an independent investigator in October to look into the matter after an employee came forward with concerns about Kubasik's relationship with another staff member.
The investigation ended on Friday when the board asked for, and received, Kubasik's resignation. He admitted to having "a close personal relationship with a subordinate employee" that violated the company's code of ethics and business conduct.
Stevens said the company's swift actions showed its "unflinching commitment to ethics and integrity in everything that we do."
He said the woman involved in the relationship with Kubasik had also left Lockheed.
The news about Kubasik's improper relationship emerged hours after CIA Director David Petraeus resigned after admitting to an extramarital affair.
Lockheed disclosed in a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that it would pay Kubasik $3.5 million in severance, but he would not receive a separate bonus for 2012.
Hewson has been with Lockheed Martin since 1983. She was named president and chief operating officer-elect in April.
Lockheed shares rose to $90.04 after hours after closing at $89.98 at the New York Stock Exchange on Friday.
that's a surbodinate. that's why i phrased my assumptions carefully - outside of the organization, in one's own private life
if we expand this to the aviation sector, cham liao - most pilots and a good majority of female stewardess will be gone
Regulators
15-02-13, 13:51
ng boon gay can walk with his head held high, ppl will look at cecilia with more scorn.
rymccondo77
15-02-13, 13:59
that's a surbodinate. that's why i phrased my assumptions carefully - outside of the organization, in one's own private life
if we expand this to the aviation sector, cham liao - most pilots and a good majority of female stewardess will be gone
The CIA Director resigned (mentioned in the earlier article) because of an extramarital affair with a non-subordinate (though the woman he had an affair with was his personal biographer).
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/09/15054517-cia-director-david-petraeus-resigns-cites-extramarital-affair?lite
Basically, leaders of organisations (especially those related to the government / civil service) are held to higher standards - even for their private lives.
Anyway, can agree to disagree on our stance on this.
The CIA Director resigned (mentioned in the earlier article) because of an extramarital affair with a non-subordinate (though the woman he had an affair with was his personal biographer).
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/09/15054517-cia-director-david-petraeus-resigns-cites-extramarital-affair?lite
Basically, leaders of organisations (especially those related to the government / civil service) are held to higher standards - even for their private lives.
Anyway, can agree to disagree on our stance on this.
certainly, and they should be held to high standards. while we talk about petreaus, how about bill clinton? how about berlusconi?
that's sidetracking a little. my point is that if the civil service is to pursue any disciplinary action, will this set a precedence for future cases? if so, michael palmer should stand before a disciplinary committee as well
ng boon gay can walk with his head held high, ppl will look at cecilia with more scorn.
I doubt so. MHA will b after him.
rymccondo77
15-02-13, 14:32
In a way Michael Palmer has already been disciplined - he resigned and his politcal career is over.
In a way Michael Palmer has already been disciplined - he resigned and his politcal career is over.
that's different. one is resign and walk away intact, the other is hung up and dried like salted fish (before being flayed, skewered and BBQ-ed) plus a black mark in personal record
rymccondo77
15-02-13, 14:37
I think what has happened to Michael Palmer is as good as a black mark in his personal record.
And the hurt he has caused his family (and himself) - that's even worst in my opinion.
I think what has happened to Michael Palmer is as good as a black mark in his personal record.
And the hurt he has caused his family (and himself) - that's even worst in my opinion.
in both cases, the families and spouses are all hurt. michael palmer didn't stand up to a disciplinary committee (or even if he did, it wasn't mentioned in public)
rymccondo77
15-02-13, 14:52
Yup, the families / spouses involved in such cases all get hurt.
Its hard to be a man in sg. Every where u go girls in the mini skirt and tight shirt. U are bombarded to sexual images every where. At home the missus might not be so accomodating to your sexual needs. If you are a high profile individual u cannot visit geylang also. We can laugh at him, but if we were in his shoes..... How many of us won't do the same?.
Its hard to be a man in sg. Every where u go girls in the mini skirt and tight shirt. U are bombarded to sexual images every where. At home the missus might not be so accomodating to your sexual needs. If you are a high profile individual u cannot visit geylang also. We can laugh at him, but if we were in his shoes..... How many of us won't do the same?.
chemical castration would solve the sexual needs.
The CIA Director resigned (mentioned in the earlier article) because of an extramarital affair with a non-subordinate (though the woman he had an affair with was his personal biographer).
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/09/15054517-cia-director-david-petraeus-resigns-cites-extramarital-affair?lite
Basically, leaders of organisations (especially those related to the government / civil service) are held to higher standards - even for their private lives.
Anyway, can agree to disagree on our stance on this.
Bill Clinton , after the cigar thingy, still remain as President till the term end.
It the perspective of culture, place to place.
rymccondo77
15-02-13, 21:27
Bill Clinton , after the cigar thingy, still remain as President till the term end.
It the perspective of culture, place to place.
Yes, he remained as President, but he still had to go through an impeachment trial for 2 charges - 1 for perjury and 1 for obstruction of justice. Needed two thirds majority vote of guilty in order to be removed from the office - the vote was about 50/50 - naturally his own party people voted not guilty and most of the opposing party people voted guilty.
What he did has largely been forgotten (or not used against him).
Yes, he remained as President, but he still had to go through an impeachment trial for 2 charges - 1 for perjury and 1 for obstruction of justice. Needed two thirds majority vote of guilty in order to be removed from the office - the vote was about 50/50 - naturally his own party people voted not guilty and most of the opposing party people voted guilty.
What he did has largely been forgotten (or not used against him).
During That time I happen to have conversation with few US vendors on their view on this.
To them, nn big deal... That why u only get 50/50 vote, in general he culture is very much diff. Not right nor wrong .
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