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Regulators
26-01-13, 22:19
I can't believe the punggol by-election thread was closed by the condosingapore admin, if they had kept it open, maybe the pappies will get slightly more votes LOL......
I would like to congratulate WP for winning the election by a large margin and let us all keep the WP spirit alive forever!!! :cheers5: :cheers4:
I can't believe the punggol by-election thread was closed by the condosingapore admin, if they had kept it open, maybe the pappies will get slightly more votes LOL......
I would like to congratulate WP for winning the election by a large margin and let us all keep the WP spirit alive forever!!! :cheers5: :cheers4:
Regulators
Nah ...over here
http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php?t=16587&page=11
:D :D
Congrats to WP! I shall wear blue tomorrow! ;)
:cheers4: :cheers4:
Regulators
26-01-13, 22:46
seriously speaking, i think koh is a good guy and his talents are best fulfilled as a collorectal surgeon. It is easy to find someone to sit in parliament, but it is extremely difficult to find a good collorectal surgeon. Since we face a shortage of medical specialists in singapore, i think the people of punggol east have made the decision to send him back to the medical profession :D
Congrats to WP and LLL. This is only the beginning. Time to work hard to return the favour for the support Punggol East has given you.
Seems tt 2016 cld b v interesting.
well done WP! huge 10% margin some more. :banana:
Cheers:cheers4: :cheers4:
WP
Hmm...people are still dissatisfied with the ruling party. Mid year exam failed again.
Could have held by-election after budget announcement...means this year's budget originally got no goodies?? Or maybe after losing this by-election, change plans and throw in more goodies...?
proud owner
26-01-13, 23:32
seriously speaking, i think koh is a good guy and his talents are best fulfilled as a collorectal surgeon. It is easy to find someone to sit in parliament, but it is extremely difficult to find a good collorectal surgeon. Since we face a shortage of medical specialists in singapore, i think the people of punggol east have made the decision to send him back to the medical profession :D
or it is becos people are abit skeptical ? abt him ...?
after all he faces axxholes everyday :tongue3:
opps sorry mr koh
From today, PAP will be known as 59.9 and not 60.1... after today result...
:cheers5: ... another 0.2 just wake up from their "Matrix" Dream.... unplucked from MIW' MSM machine by WP...:cheers4:
Hmm...people are still dissatisfied with the ruling party. Mid year exam failed again.
Could have held by-election after budget announcement...means this year's budget originally got no goodies?? Or maybe after losing this by-election, change plans and throw in more goodies...?
1 free hdb flat per baby born. :rolleyes:
Property may be forces to drop so tat next ge maintain status quo.
proud owner
27-01-13, 00:05
Property may be forces to drop so tat next ge maintain status quo.
i think PAP(HDB) must rethink their strategy .. how to control and maintain the run away prices of new HDB ..work on how to help the real needy buy their first HDB ..
HDB flats are cheap compared to PC ... but to many who never dream of living in PC ...the new HDB is considered very expensive ....
i think PAP(HDB) must rethink their strategy .. how to control and maintain the run away prices of new HDB ..work on how to help the real needy buy their first HDB ..
HDB flats are cheap compared to PC ... but to many who never dream of living in PC ...the new HDB is considered very expensive ....
Punggol East residents largely young and middle class..eventually aspire to own PCs. So, HDB not a big issue. I think it is a deep seated desire to continue to keep a check on the govt.
The more the government tries to change and please, the more people feel that having greater opposition in parliament is working. It's a no win situation really...
So, if govt does well, people will feel that opposition is having the desired effect. Tough for PAP going ahead...
Singaporeans now see the light and not go with the hype. Singaporeans boleh! Time for HDB to come clean on subsidies. What subsidised public housing!!! Let it fall, let it fall, let is fall.
Maybe they will rework the white paper now... A hint that we will hit 7 million from DBS is to test water. Let us see whether the 7 million will come...
Maybe they will rework the white paper now... A hint that we will hit 7 million from DBS is to test water. Let us see whether the 7 million will come...
add 0 in front, to become 0.7m :D
Or maybe discount to 6.8m :D
1 free hdb flat per baby born. :rolleyes:
ready to shoot, sir. :cheers5:
Maybe they will rework the white paper now... A hint that we will hit 7 million from DBS is to test water. Let us see whether the 7 million will come...
I have no issue with 7mil, we need the population to maintain growth and demographics... But they better make sure that the infrastructure is ready or even over-ready for the 7mil... If they learnt their lesson at all.
They have been lagging behind demand in the past, hence the complaints... It's time they go ahead of demand...
I have no issue with 7mil, we need the population to maintain growth and demographics... But they better make sure that the infrastructure is ready or even over-ready for the 7mil... If they learnt their lesson at all.
They have been lagging behind demand in the past, hence the complaints... It's time they go ahead of demand...
I have issue with the 7 mil, because the bulk of it is driven by new citizens, PRs and immigrants. I'm not sure where the profits of our national investments go. It could have been better utilized to support early childcare. This is in the midst of overcrowding and major breakdowns in infrastructure. The timing and way of increasing pop are wrong.
I have issue with the 7 mil, because the bulk of it is driven by new citizens, PRs and immigrants. I'm not sure where the profits of our national investments go. It could have been better utilized to support early childcare. This is in the midst of overcrowding and major breakdowns in infrastructure. The timing and way of increasing pop are wrong.
I see it as a necessary evil to maintain the population mix, certain communities are not growing as fast as others, if left unchecked and unbalanced... The balance of power would shift... Enough said...
Having said the above, it's how to make plan the infrastructure to prevent "overcrowding and major breakdowns"...
Just thinking will the property in the opposition ward drop?
phantom_opera
27-01-13, 09:45
I am surprised today article quoted the viral YouTube video about dr Koh saying everyone has a car and he and wife own one each
Lol
I am surprised today article quoted the viral YouTube video about dr Koh saying everyone has a car and he and wife own one each
Lol
Haha all thanks to RazorTV for not editing that portion out.
Will that online tv be axed by SPH?
I am surprised today article quoted the viral YouTube video about dr Koh saying everyone has a car and he and wife own one each
Lol
head will roll at TODAY..
Next will be Joo Chiat. Charles Chong will have to work really hard. WP has four more new candidates: 1 Prof from NUS, 2 Lawyers and 1 Engineer. ;)
phantom_opera
27-01-13, 10:09
The journalist who asked that question must be a spy from WP, dr Koh should answer that he understands the plight of young family owning a car .. He is too honest lol
phantom_opera
27-01-13, 10:12
The key issue is high inflation in car, housing, maid, baby and childcare are denying middle class basic quality of life
In Beijing, they have car balloting system, in Sg high Coe is seen as unfair to middle class
It is worst for those use the vehicle to make a living like van and lorry. :simmering:
The key issue is high inflation in car, housing, maid, baby and childcare are denying middle class basic quality of life
phantom_opera
27-01-13, 10:24
To survive pap must continue to import soon to be upper middle class new SCs to vote for them or adopt a more pro middle class policy
New SC and SPR love PAP. ;)
To survive pap must continue to import soon to be upper middle class new SCs to vote for them or adopt a more pro middle class policy
Regulators
27-01-13, 11:11
Property prices controlled by market forces, has hougang/aljunied properties drop in prices? Don't be naive
Property may be forces to drop so tat next ge maintain status quo.
Regulators
27-01-13, 11:22
i am not sure if they are getting the right ones in. How many of the new SC and SPRs are really professionals and what is the criteria?
New SC and SPR love PAP. ;)
Property prices controlled by market forces, has hougang/aljunied properties drop in prices? Don't be naive
I think he meant islandwide property prices.
Harsher CM(corrective measure)
Regulators
27-01-13, 11:34
Are pappies so sure that this election loss is due to high pty prices? It is very hard to pinpoint the reason for their loss unless a survey carried out on the voters. IMO if they are going to have more CMs, they would be overdoing it and people may end up turning against them. They have to thread with caution coz majority of singaporeans have majority of their money tied up in property, so causing prices to fall would not do the PAP any good.
I think he meant islandwide property prices.
Harsher CM(corrective measure)
They are enjoying the subsidy from their children in IB school and scholarship in the university. Their property has gone up in prices and can even let out their entire flats in the past but now still not bad with one room. Children even has option not to serve the NS. Why vote for Opp?
i am not sure if they are getting the right ones in. How many of the new SC and SPRs are really professionals and what is the criteria?
Regulators
27-01-13, 11:46
I know a PR family who intend to move their son back to india before reaching NS age, so much for loyalty and being grateful. I think singapore should have a law saying that if a PR child receives a certain number of years of subsidised education, they cannot opt out of NS.
They are enjoying the subsidy from their children in IB school and scholarship in the university. Their property has gone up in prices and can even let out their entire flats in the past but now still not bad with one room. Children even has option not to serve the NS. Why vote for Opp?
I know a PR family who intend to move their son back to india before reaching NS age, so much for loyalty and being grateful. I think singapore should have a law saying that if a PR child receives a certain number of years of subsidised education, they cannot opt out of NS.
i mentioned before, back in JC many years back, 2 of my PR classmates dropped their PR after JC2. so this is really not new. but perhaps, more prevalent now. due to the huge increase in immigrants.
Regulators
27-01-13, 12:01
This has been going on for years and the government is allowing people to come here, reap benefits and when it is time to return that kindness, they would rather leave. Singaporeans have no choice but to serve NS.
i mentioned before, back in JC many years back, 2 of my PR classmates dropped their PR after JC2. so this is really not new. but perhaps, more prevalent now. due to the huge increase in immigrants.
This has been going on for years and the government is allowing people to come here, reap benefits and when it is time to return that kindness, they would rather leave. Singaporeans have no choice but to serve NS.
Your last sentence is disturbing and sad.
Regulators
27-01-13, 12:43
You expect me to applaud at the fact that i have fired a rifle and thrown a grenade? I am against war and violence which was why i used the words "no choice". People can serve the country in many ways, need not be army. I am nevertheless proud of the fact that i have served my country when i was called.
Your last sentence is disturbing and sad.
To survive pap must continue to import soon to be upper middle class new SCs to vote for them or adopt a more pro middle class policy
How would you describe "higher upper middle class"?
You expect me to applaud at the fact that i have fired a rifle and thrown a grenade? I am against war and violence which was why i used the words "no choice". People can serve the country in many ways, need not be army. I am nevertheless proud of the fact that i have served my country when i was called.
So in your opinion national defence is a complete waste too?
Regulators
27-01-13, 12:57
did i say or imply that?
So in your opinion national defence is a complete waste too?
did i say or imply that?
Yes u imply that which is why i ask u the question.
So what is your answer?
Regulators
27-01-13, 13:06
where is that implication?
Yes u imply that which is why i ask u the question.
So what is your answer?
Yes u imply that which is why i ask u the question.
So what is your answer?
Dun think he imply that...guess ur interpretation is very poor :scared-1:
"Singaporeans have no choice but to serve NS."
So given a choice, singaporeans do not want to serve NS.
So, who will serve and protect our country?
"Singaporeans have no choice but to serve NS."
So given a choice, singaporeans do not want to serve NS.
So, who will serve and protect our country?
have a regular army as opposed to conscription.
have a regular army as opposed to conscription.
Ideally it should be but unfortunately we do not have the luxury.
Perhaps government can look at switzerland and shorten the duration of NS.
rymccondo77
27-01-13, 18:20
My view - NS is good for Singapore young men. And NS gave me the opportunity to interact with people from different educational backgrounds.
Also, some of the best friendships are formed from NS days.
My group of NS friends still meet 2 to 3 times (mainly makan sessions) a year for the past 15 years.
"Singaporeans have no choice but to serve NS."
So given a choice, singaporeans do not want to serve NS.
So, who will serve and protect our country?
Not sure about choice
In Singapore, National Service is a Conscription
During our time (70') we were very proud to serve our Country
we do our exercise and run to built up our physics and stamina before we were even enlisted.
To this day, I share vividly about my NS experiences with my sons and about the camaraderie spirit back then
Occassionally a group of us still gather for simple dinner and mahjong sessions....Friendship for LIFE
BUT
recently, there is another side of the story to serving in the National Service
This has to do with the "Open Door" policies from our Government.
Nonetheless, I still believe our youngsters today take pride in our Country afterall their family and friends are all here.
(To empathise with the the youngster today, I recalled that during the Vietnam War, many marines were asking themselves : Who am I fighting and sacrificing for ?)
Many were asking the same question today
They are now confused
My view - NS is good for Singapore young men. And NS gave me the opportunity to interact with people from different educational backgrounds.
Also, some of the best friendships are formed from NS days.
My group of NS friends still meet 2 to 3 times (mainly makan sessions) a year for the past 15 years.
I feel its a good thing. haveing served and done my reservist. actually I looked forward to reservist where I can catch up with old pals. also switch off a bit from work.
Take the exercise as tune up yearly. Actually I kinda miss some of it. ( crazy some say. but some of the experience in there will never hav if not for the army experience.)
Regulators
27-01-13, 22:09
do we really need 2 years for that experience? I remember most of the time idling in camp after going through the essential training. there were days when we had no exercise and everyone in the camp was just waiting to book out. in my camp nobody enjoyed eating cookhouse food n I remembered the sergeant just allowing us to eat at the canteen. when I was on duty one day, I remembered throwing bags n bags of cooked chicken drumsticksn rice because nobody bothered to eat the lousily cooked food. I learnt that the military is a terribly wasteful organisation in my time there. during exercise days, they would indent truckloads of food to be dumped into trash bags, each time I saw ppl throwing that food away by the bags, I think of those starving in other parts of the world.
My view - NS is good for Singapore young men. And NS gave me the opportunity to interact with people from different educational backgrounds.
Also, some of the best friendships are formed from NS days.
My group of NS friends still meet 2 to 3 times (mainly makan sessions) a year for the past 15 years.
Allthepies
28-01-13, 02:35
whenever PAP makes an improvement, WP will take the credit. Whenever PAP did something wrongly WP will put the blame on PAP.
We can see that if majority of Singaporeans believe in this kind of reasoning, WP will ultimately take over Singapore. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Regulators
28-01-13, 02:48
WP doesnt govern, they check on government. PAP has to be tip top to continue staying in power and rewarding themselves millions a year. in the past, everything can be an honest mistake to the pappies, now things are different n I think it is high time we had that change
whenever PAP makes an improvement, WP will take the credit. Whenever PAP did something wrongly WP will put the blame on PAP.
We can see that if majority of Singaporeans believe in this kind of reasoning, WP will ultimately take over Singapore. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
My view - NS is good for Singapore young men. And NS gave me the opportunity to interact with people from different educational backgrounds.
Also, some of the best friendships are formed from NS days.
My group of NS friends still meet 2 to 3 times (mainly makan sessions) a year for the past 15 years.
true reason is to keep young men at 18 behind "bars" (in camp) so that they dun come out and make trouble. that is the age that yougg men are most hot blooded and create trouble.
rymccondo77
28-01-13, 10:20
I feel its a good thing. haveing served and done my reservist. actually I looked forward to reservist where I can catch up with old pals. also switch off a bit from work.
Take the exercise as tune up yearly. Actually I kinda miss some of it. ( crazy some say. but some of the experience in there will never hav if not for the army experience.)
Yes, for me, some of the best experiences in life came from army days :)
Female conscription is the answer. In Israel all women aged 18 – 26 serve. Those exempted serve as volunteers in hospitals, old age centres, with needy children or other worthy causes. Everyone serves. (Declare vested interest: I have sons only, so I find this a great way to spread the burden).
proud owner
28-01-13, 16:06
Female conscription is the answer. In Israel all women aged 18 – 26 serve. Those exempted serve as volunteers in hospitals, old age centres, with needy children or other worthy causes. Everyone serves. (Declare vested interest: I have sons only, so I find this a great way to spread the burden).
U think our ladies wud serve?
They say it's good. But when asked. They say NO
Spare our girls lah.....
Female conscription is the answer. In Israel all women aged 18 – 26 serve. Those exempted serve as volunteers in hospitals, old age centres, with needy children or other worthy causes. Everyone serves. (Declare vested interest: I have sons only, so I find this a great way to spread the burden).
when you are conscripted you are TOLD not ASKED to serve.
U think our ladies wud serve?
They say it's good. But when asked. They say NO
siao ah! and see the birth rate plummet even more?!?! and see native SCs leave the shore in throngs?!
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