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A few points :*
CM7 was announced and what followed -*
1. 2 new mrt lines
Quotes*
"Under the plans, the rail network will be doubled by 2030, from the current 178 km to about 360 km. The improvements will support Singapore's long-term development and ensure the rail network will have more than the capacity needed to meet the expected increase in public transport ridership in the next two decades."
What is the clue? Are we expecting increase in ridership within 2 decades from birth of citizens??
2. Today papers talk about TFR
3. *White paper on population coming out in jan 2013.
The nptd has consulted the public on the population issue. So what do you think is the verdict?
https://www.nptd.gov.sg/content/NPTD/home/_jcr_content/par_content/download/file.res/Issues%20Paper%20-%20Our%20Population%20Our%20Future.pdf
The clues are all over??? What did you all see????
So why cm7 before the announcement of mrt and population white paper??? Can you see the clue???
A few points :*
CM7 was announced and what followed -*
1. 2 new mrt lines
Quotes*
"Under the plans, the rail network will be doubled by 2030, from the current 178 km to about 360 km. The improvements will support Singapore's long-term development and ensure the rail network will have more than the capacity needed to meet the expected increase in public transport ridership in the next two decades."
What is the clue? Are we expecting increase in ridership within 2 decades from birth of citizens??
2. Today papers talk about TFR
3. *White paper on population coming out in jan 2013.
The nptd has consulted the public on the population issue. So what do you think is the verdict?
https://www.nptd.gov.sg/content/NPTD/home/_jcr_content/par_content/download/file.res/Issues%20Paper%20-%20Our%20Population%20Our%20Future.pdf
The clues are all over??? What did you all see????
So why cm7 before the announcement of mrt and population white paper??? Can you see the clue???
There's one more piece of the puzzle. URA's Masterplan 2013. Once that is out, then everything will be very clear.
announcing the arrival of houdini...welcome welcome..forums are like drugs for our fingers...always looking for keyboard to type....hard to kick the habit...wahahaha:D:D:D:cheers5:
the clues are on our expressway...mrt station...shopping centres...showflats:scared-1:...human jam traffic jam
Not forgetting the announcement of higher baby bonus now...
Not forgetting the announcement of higher baby bonus now...
moral of story it pays to get....f$#@!d....:D:D:D
buttercarp
22-01-13, 19:22
Hi can u all talk in simple language?
My brain very small... don't understand figurative terms.....n clueless.
I only know one thing........ properties near mrt will not go wrong.
More local, less foreigner.
Every local will have equal share of space in this island.
If a local wants to have more share of space, tax them more.
If foreigner wants to have a share of space in this island, tax them more.
In short fixed the infrastructure problem by expanding train networl, fixed the housing problem with cm7, increase baby bonus. So fewer reasons to reject opening the door now :D
Anyway I welcome that
blackjack21trader
22-01-13, 19:39
A few points :*
CM7 was announced and what followed -*
1. 2 new mrt lines
Quotes*
"Under the plans, the rail network will be doubled by 2030, from the current 178 km to about 360 km. The improvements will support Singapore's long-term development and ensure the rail network will have more than the capacity needed to meet the expected increase in public transport ridership in the next two decades."
What is the clue? Are we expecting increase in ridership within 2 decades from birth of citizens??
2. Today papers talk about TFR
3. *White paper on population coming out in jan 2013.
The nptd has consulted the public on the population issue. So what do you think is the verdict?
https://www.nptd.gov.sg/content/NPTD/home/_jcr_content/par_content/download/file.res/Issues%20Paper%20-%20Our%20Population%20Our%20Future.pdf
The clues are all over??? What did you all see????
So why cm7 before the announcement of mrt and population white paper??? Can you see the clue???
GOOD KOR KOR CHESTNUT! You are back!!!
MMMMmmmmmm...people bully me here while u were away :(
Hi can u all talk in simple language?
My brain very small... don't understand figurative terms.....n clueless.
I only know one thing........ properties near mrt will not go wrong.
very simple sis...singapore size will never change only the population..more and more and more...so demand for property will b forever and ever...:)
blackjack21trader
22-01-13, 19:48
:im-so-happy: :im-so-happy: :im-so-happy: :im-so-happy:
GOOD KOR KOR CHESTNUT IS BACK !
Allthepies
22-01-13, 20:07
Already taken action :D :D
Eat up all the relevant stocks :D :D
More local, less foreigner.
Every local will have equal share of space in this island.
If a local wants to have more share of space, tax them more.
If foreigner wants to have a share of space in this island, tax them more.
sounds like communist style.
GOOD KOR KOR CHESTNUT! You are back!!!
MMMMmmmmmm...people bully me here while u were away :(
actually the ghost bro also disappeared for 3 days huh ? :D
blackjack21trader
22-01-13, 20:19
actually the ghost bro also disappeared for 3 days huh ? :D
All BUSY in Pungool East la.:doh:
blackjack21trader
22-01-13, 20:20
All BUSY in Pungool East la.:doh:
Dun believe exactly 1 week after the BE, you will see all of them back here la including Geyland Turtle Head.:scared-5:
Must be blind not to see the writing on the wall.
A few points :*
CM7 was announced and what followed -*
1. 2 new mrt lines
Quotes*
"Under the plans, the rail network will be doubled by 2030, from the current 178 km to about 360 km. The improvements will support Singapore's long-term development and ensure the rail network will have more than the capacity needed to meet the expected increase in public transport ridership in the next two decades."
What is the clue? Are we expecting increase in ridership within 2 decades from birth of citizens??
2. Today papers talk about TFR
3. *White paper on population coming out in jan 2013.
The nptd has consulted the public on the population issue. So what do you think is the verdict?
https://www.nptd.gov.sg/content/NPTD/home/_jcr_content/par_content/download/file.res/Issues%20Paper%20-%20Our%20Population%20Our%20Future.pdf
The clues are all over??? What did you all see????
So why cm7 before the announcement of mrt and population white paper??? Can you see the clue???
As long as gov down turn off the tap(immigration policy) or worst pump out the water. The property will still be pretty stable .
end of the day..supply and demand are created by policies, true market is secondary
the clues are on our expressway...mrt station...shopping centres...showflats:scared-1:...human jam traffic jam
Would we be one day become minority?
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不离不弃
观天察地
洞悉天机
唯有能者
才有生机
Would we be one day become minority?
Possible. Government knows it and have introduced counter measures.
Would we be one day become minority?
Who is WE? Race or SC?
proud owner
22-01-13, 23:33
govt handles the policies and the infrastructure ...
on our part ... when it comes to buying for long term ... choose wisely
today ..FH and LH have no difference ...
this is almost always so as price escalates... when one can no longer afford FH ...they go for LH which is more affordable and lie to oneself " i can never live 99 yrs anyway"
to me is it ridiculous to have LH and FH the same pricing ..and in some cases ..even LH cost more than FH ...
by the time the new mrt is up and running ... your LH condo is already 10-15 yrs old ...
another point ...land is scarce ... we can only build upward ...
so those FH low rise ..will have a great potential when govt change plot ratio for some areas .... to max land use ...
Yes, population is increasing, sounds very good. But one has to look at the pace of increasing, and then compare it with the increase of supply. I don't have all the numbers yet, but a quick glance through the NPTD paper shows that 79,167 PRs were granted in 2008 while only 27,521 were granted in 2011. For SCs, that was 20,513 and 15,777.
The granting of PR has shown a sharp decrease.
URA will most likely revise the plot ratio higher and add more amenities to its new blueprint. The CM7 is not harsh without reasons.
govt handles the policies and the infrastructure ...
on our part ... when it comes to buying for long term ... choose wisely
today ..FH and LH have no difference ...
this is almost always so as price escalates... when one can no longer afford FH ...they go for LH which is more affordable and lie to oneself " i can never live 99 yrs anyway"
to me is it ridiculous to have LH and FH the same pricing ..and in some cases ..even LH cost more than FH ...
by the time the new mrt is up and running ... your LH condo is already 10-15 yrs old ...
another point ...land is scarce ... we can only build upward ...
so those FH low rise ..will have a great potential when govt change plot ratio for some areas .... to max land use ...
can build downwards too, like city harvest but alot more costly
read this and decipher
http://www.spp.nus.edu.sg/ips/docs/pub/pa_MTGC_ST_Tackling%20the%20population%20conundrum_050512.pdf
The authorities in New York, London or Tokyo do not have to consider the threat of an ageing population in the same manner as ours, with Singapore having no natural hinterland to allow the population to make the choice of whether to move out of the city for a less intense urbanised lifestyle and lower costs of living
http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120424-341816.html
One scenario said that if the total fertility rate stays at its current low of 1.2 births per woman, with no supplement to the population from immigration, Singapore's citizen population will start to shrink 13 years from now, and decrease by more than half a million by 2060.
In the other scenarios, fertility is kept at current levels, but with differing levels of immigration. Between 15,000 and 25,000 new citizens are brought in each year.
In these scenarios, the number of working-age citizens declines, while the median age climbs.
The paper said that an immigration inflow of between 20,000 and 25,000 new citizens a year is needed to keep the citizen population size stable.
http://www.population.sg/introduction/#.UP9EsqySN8E
Our citizen population has reached a turning point this year as our first cohort of baby boomers turn 65. At current birth rates and with no immigration, the number of Singapore Citizens (SCs) aged 65 and above will triple to 900,000 by 2030. There will be a smaller base of working-age citizens as our citizen population and workforce will age and decline. This is a significant demographic challenge facing Singapore which will soon be upon us. We need to take action early to address these issues.
Now comes the question -
To be a Singapore Citizen, what must one be before that? And : PR (most of the time unless exceptional cases which are super rare)
To become Permanent Resident, what must one be before that? immigrant (work permit, employment pass)
To become work permit holder or hold employment pass, what must one be - from another country.
Can you see the funnel? we bring in many foreigners, we funnel and choose the PRs we want. We then choose the Citizens we want.
So immigrant >PRs>SC
To be an SC, you need to have home ownership, which will give you grounding.
We now have 5.3 mil population and 3.8 mil citizens
If we have 6.5 mil population and 3.8 mil citizens, that means 1/2 are foreigners and 1/2 are citizens. Do you think it is possible? so how many citizens will there be when population reaches 6.5 mil?
If many Singaporeans have 2 or more properties, then where will the new citizens stay??? In rented properties. right??? Is this what we want??? Do we want them to have a stake in our country and immersed with us??? YES
Do your own conclusion and please share.
I feel the need to share with all of you my findings. You all have really shared very important information to allow me to derive at some storyline.
Please do contradict with facts.. What is known : when the govt consulted on casino, it happened.
So the govt consulted on immigration and you guess what will come out in the white paper?
Why baby bonus and even adoption bonus???? Increase citizenship... Will we achieve TFR of 2.1?? Look at out TFR for 2012 - 0.78 vs 2011 - 1.11
This is indeed worrying....
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=sn&v=31
We need more citizens if not in 20 years time, we will be like Japan.
I AM HOLDING ON TO MY UNITS AND NOT SELLING ANY DURING THIS PERIOD.
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
For those who bought recently like Radha and Shanz - once again : Congratulations !!!!!!
I am not a bull nor a bear. I am chestnut. And I just state facts. the clues are all over, OPEN YOUR EYES. Please do prove me wrong with my facts by presenting me facts or claims that lead to your negativity. I welcome it and I will OPEN MY EYE BIG BIG AND ANALYZE. :scared-5::scared-5::scared-5::scared-5::scared-5::scared-5::scared-5:
Thanks for the sharing the info.
I'm interested in the pace of increase of population, as so far, the granting of PR shown a sharp decrease:
NPTD paper shows that 79,167 PRs were granted in 2008 while only 27,521 were granted in 2011.
For SCs, it was 20,513 in 2008 and 15,777 in 2011.
So, if the white paper says "inflow of between 20,000 and 25,000 new citizens a year is needed to keep the citizen population size stable", then to me, it is NOT a positive, it is just maintaining the pace of increase of SCs, but,how about the increase of PRs, I don't have the number yet, but i guess it will remain far below the 2006-2008 highs.
and we need migrants, citizens of certain race/ colors to maintain our edge in the region.
http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/singapore/expat_guide/910/singapore_aims_to_achieve_65mil_population.php
Assume 6.5 million by 2030.
Todays population - 5.3 mil
1.7million over 17 years equates to 100K per year intake. Where to house this 100K people????
refer to this for reference (time chart)
http://www.singstat.gov.sg/stats/themes/people/hist/popn.html
economist, you must base your arguments on facts or findings, if not, anyone can say anything..... please do show me facts or findings. if you are right, i learn and can rethink my entire theory.... if you cannot show me findings, how can i learn???
my findings are not that i purposely find only good news... i find facts... if there are negative news, i will post.... and i will sell my property... no problem. there are many other investments... i gave the clue on 3 D printing stocks and I hope some have bought. up by > 50% liao from the time I shared.
I have said many, many times in this forum. Govt give hints.
i have shared enough liao.... going hibernation again... Cherio guys.
Catch up with you guys at another time....:D:D:D:D
Please dont :scared-3::scared-3::scared-3::scared-3::scared-3::scared-3:
Thanks for the sharing the info.
I'm interested in the pace of increase of population, as so far, the granting of PR shown a sharp decrease:
NPTD paper shows that 79,167 PRs were granted in 2008 while only 27,521 were granted in 2011.
For SCs, it was 20,513 in 2008 and 15,777 in 2011.
So, if the white paper says "inflow of between 20,000 and 25,000 new citizens a year is needed to keep the citizen population size stable", then to me, it is NOT a positive, it is just maintaining the pace of increase of SCs, but,how about the increase of PRs, I don't have the number yet, but i guess it will remain far below the 2006-2008 highs.
tighten PR/SC approvals but open the taps to WPs and EPs lah
http://www.mom.gov.sg/statistics-publications/others/statistics/Pages/ForeignWorkforceNumbers.aspx
http://www.mom.gov.sg/statistics-publications/others/statistics/Pages/ForeignWorkforceNumbers.aspx
bro chestnut, thanks for re-appearing again, and thanks for sharing. your posts are always useful to me because they are facts, and usually from sgp garmen. the same sources that policies come from/go towards.
pls keep up the good advices. :D
The calculation of 100K per year intake includes foreign workforce.
More than 90% of private home buyers are SCs and PRs. We need to look at the future pace of increase of SCs and PRs.
I did not find the projected increase of SCs and PRs per year, yet. What I know for fact is, the past numbers show:
79,167 PRs were granted in 2008 while only 27,521 were granted in 2011.
For SCs, it was 20,513 in 2008 and 15,777 in 2011.
The calculation of 100K per year intake includes foreign workforce.
More than 90% of private home buyers are SCs and PRs. We need to look at the future pace of increase of SCs and PRs.
I did not find the projected increase of SCs and PRs per year, yet. What I know for fact is, the past numbers show:
79,167 PRs were granted in 2008 while only 27,521 were granted in 2011.
For SCs, it was 20,513 in 2008 and 15,777 in 2011.
ecomoist. I enjoy your posts. But please also explain (or try to) why so many bought Qbay after CM7?
govt handles the policies and the infrastructure ...
on our part ... when it comes to buying for long term ... choose wisely
today ..FH and LH have no difference ...
this is almost always so as price escalates... when one can no longer afford FH ...they go for LH which is more affordable and lie to oneself " i can never live 99 yrs anyway"
to me is it ridiculous to have LH and FH the same pricing ..and in some cases ..even LH cost more than FH ...
by the time the new mrt is up and running ... your LH condo is already 10-15 yrs old ...
another point ...land is scarce ... we can only build upward ...
so those FH low rise ..will have a great potential when govt change plot ratio for some areas .... to max land use ...
this is so true and i have been telling this to my close friends and family members...
I AM HOLDING ON TO MY UNITS AND NOT SELLING ANY DURING THIS PERIOD.
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
For those who bought recently like Radha and Shanz - once again : Congratulations !!!!!!
I am not a bull nor a bear. I am chestnut. And I just state facts. the clues are all over, OPEN YOUR EYES. Please do prove me wrong with my facts by presenting me facts or claims that lead to your negativity. I welcome it and I will OPEN MY EYE BIG BIG AND ANALYZE. :scared-5::scared-5::scared-5::scared-5::scared-5::scared-5::scared-5:
boss chestnut is back.....:cheers5:
Assume 6.5 million by 2030.
Todays population - 5.3 mil
1.7million over 17 years equates to 100K per year intake. Where to house this 100K people????
:scared-3::scared-3::scared-3::scared-3::scared-3::scared-3:
Hi, Chestnut
happy to see u again and again...
In fact, my take is 7.5m by 2030 and Sg Govt wants new citizen by assessing the HDB policy.
check this out
http://www.ura.gov.sg/sulgrantcall/
imagine your kids
:scared-3: :scared-3: :scared-3:
The calculation of 100K per year intake includes foreign workforce.
More than 90% of private home buyers are SCs and PRs. We need to look at the future pace of increase of SCs and PRs.
I did not find the projected increase of SCs and PRs per year, yet. What I know for fact is, the past numbers show:
79,167 PRs were granted in 2008 while only 27,521 were granted in 2011.
For SCs, it was 20,513 in 2008 and 15,777 in 2011.
what crap are u talking about?! stats show foreign workforce grow and u talk about buyers. don't these guys need to rent?!
even if we were to take your numbers, that's at least 100k PRs and 35k SCs between 2008-2011. take the total and divide by 4, and you can see that at least 30k properties are needed to house them.
proud owner
23-01-13, 16:35
Thanks for the sharing the info.
I'm interested in the pace of increase of population, as so far, the granting of PR shown a sharp decrease:
NPTD paper shows that 79,167 PRs were granted in 2008 while only 27,521 were granted in 2011.
For SCs, it was 20,513 in 2008 and 15,777 in 2011.
So, if the white paper says "inflow of between 20,000 and 25,000 new citizens a year is needed to keep the citizen population size stable", then to me, it is NOT a positive, it is just maintaining the pace of increase of SCs, but,how about the increase of PRs, I don't have the number yet, but i guess it will remain far below the 2006-2008 highs.
why the sharp drop in numbers in 2011 .??
let me tell you
cos alot of SC complained about how packed the trains are ..the malls are ..everywhere everytime
and during the first few years of opening up to foreigners to come and take up PRship and C ships ..alot of 'untalented talents' came in ...
so we see them everywhere ... from cleaners to food court / restuarant helpers ...
so govt tighten the tap ...
first to apeace singapore ... second to filter out those 'talents' ...
hence a sharp fall in 2011 maybe even 2012 ...
but going forward ... those thats coming in will have some "substance' ,,,
you will see the number going up again ... soon
Actually gov has to bring in good mix of immigrants, a matter of fact that many jobs Singaporean are unwilling to undertake ..
If the onset were to bring in only ,substance' immigrants ,more singaporean will feel left out..
Infrastructure and resident ,and the entire economic has to altered to suite this man make increase of population
My only fear is , if there a sharp turn of event which cause the immigrant s to retract ,lost the confident, and run away,we will be in trouble ...
For Singapore to be have a strong enough self-sustainable local economy that is not so volatile and too strongly affected by other countries' economies, Singapore need 12 Million population! :scared-3:
SG govt already preparing for that with still massive land reclamations now in southern islands, and use of Pulau Ubin and Pulau Tekong and Simpang (used to be army training ground) for these! Land's Plot ratio can also be doubled! In future, we will see MRT from Punggol to Pulau Ubin & Tekong!
Hi, Chestnut
happy to see u again and again...
In fact, my take is 7.5m by 2030 and Sg Govt wants new citizen by assessing the HDB policy.
For Singapore to be have a strong enough self-sustainable local economy that is not so volatile and too strongly affected by other countries' economies, Singapore need 12 Million population! :scared-3:
SG govt already preparing for that with still massive land reclamations now in southern islands, and use of Pulau Ubin and Pulau Tekong and Simpang (used to be army training ground) for these! Land's Plot ratio can also be doubled! In future, we will see MRT from Punggol to Pulau Ubin & Tekong!
nights out, army boys can take MRT from tekong to watertown?? lol.
In future, Tekong will not be for army boys. army boys need to go Tekong kia nearby (that little island beside Tekong). :D
nights out, army boys can take MRT from tekong to watertown?? lol.
Perpetually so near but yet so far from civilisation.
Isn't that the purpose for army boys? Good for their training...... :o
Perpetually so near but yet so far from civilisation.
Isn't that the purpose for army boys? Good for their training...... :o
at the rate we are building, better for them to be acquainted with the various fire exits of watertown mall and white sands mall so that they know the best route of advancement when they need to set up area defence.
In future, Tekong will not be for army boys. army boys need to go Tekong kia nearby (that little island beside Tekong). :D
can take mrt there...:D:D:D
In future, Tekong will not be for army boys. army boys need to go Tekong kia nearby (that little island beside Tekong). :D
That small island already joined to tekong ..
For Singapore to be have a strong enough self-sustainable local economy that is not so volatile and too strongly affected by other countries' economies, Singapore need 12 Million population! :scared-3:
SG govt already preparing for that with still massive land reclamations now in southern islands, and use of Pulau Ubin and Pulau Tekong and Simpang (used to be army training ground) for these! Land's Plot ratio can also be doubled! In future, we will see MRT from Punggol to Pulau Ubin & Tekong!
How do u arrive at 12 mil? This is more than doubled of current pop. Plot ratio has to b doubled too. Everything needs to b doubled at least. Dun think it is phy possible. 7 mil is already a stretch.
Today, 5.5mil is very stretched for our infrastructures but in 2025, we should be ready for 8mil.
No problem with proper planning like what they do to Sengkang and Punggol, squeeze and squeeze, all garden on roof top, etc :D
as what bro chestnut mentioned, clues are all over...
1) CM in place, price in check, developer pocket goes to govt pocket with price steady or slight drop. (meaning developer just absorb whatever and actually no diff to buyers...)
2) CM very harsh this time, why? because when they announce the white paper, the bull will likely continue to charge upwards...:p
3) announcement on additional lines for MRT and road extension, new roads, etc, meaning, going to cater for larger population
4) tight control on new SC & PR, not on the numbers, but on the quality...:o , which means, landed will continue to go higher as new quality SC & PR will be more likely favor landed ...
http://lushhomemedia.com/2011/01/19/share-of-landed-homes-in-singapore-declines/
i pick up 4 pts, there could be more. above just based on my personal view.:2cents:
HUAT EH :p
How do u arrive at 12 mil? This is more than doubled of current pop. Plot ratio has to b doubled too. Everything needs to b doubled at least. Dun think it is phy possible. 7 mil is already a stretch.
Read this
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/private-home-sales-price-growth-fall-2012-024127979--sector.html
Q4 2012, ppi grew 1.8%
Q3 2012, ppi grew 0.6%
Total for 2012, ppi grew 2.8%
With such modest growth, why the need for CM.
If there are many Singaporeans buying their 2nd home for investment, there will be less home for 1st timers. So this CM really flavours the 1st timers - be it singaporeans or new citizens. All citizens need a home. Another clue. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha:cheers4: :cheers4: :cheers4: :cheers4: :cheers4: :cheers4:
Today, 5.5mil is very stretched for our infrastructures but in 2025, we should be ready for 8mil.
No problem with proper planning like what they do to Sengkang and Punggol, squeeze and squeeze, all garden on roof top, etc :D
as what bro chestnut mentioned, clues are all over...
1) CM in place, price in check, developer pocket goes to govt pocket with price steady or slight drop. (meaning developer just absorb whatever and actually no diff to buyers...)
2) CM very harsh this time, why? because when they announce the white paper, the bull will likely continue to charge upwards...:p
3) announcement on additional lines for MRT and road extension, new roads, etc, meaning, going to cater for larger population
4) tight control on new SC & PR, not on the numbers, but on the quality...:o , which means, landed will continue to go higher as new quality SC & PR will be more likely favor landed ...
http://lushhomemedia.com/2011/01/19/share-of-landed-homes-in-singapore-declines/
i pick up 4 pts, there could be more. above just based on my personal view.:2cents:
HUAT EH :p
V expensive to build for peak capacity.
Read this
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/private-home-sales-price-growth-fall-2012-024127979--sector.html
Q4 2012, ppi grew 1.8%
Q3 2012, ppi grew 0.6%
Total for 2012, ppi grew 2.8%
With such modest growth, why the need for CM.
If there are many Singaporeans buying their 2nd home for investment, there will be less home for 1st timers. So this CM really flavours the 1st timers - be it singaporeans or new citizens. All citizens need a home. Another clue. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha:cheers4: :cheers4: :cheers4: :cheers4: :cheers4: :cheers4:
i really like your insightful comments boss. Factual and not bias - opens up for interpretation by both sides :cool:
Read this
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/private-home-sales-price-growth-fall-2012-024127979--sector.html
Q4 2012, ppi grew 1.8%
Q3 2012, ppi grew 0.6%
Total for 2012, ppi grew 2.8%
With such modest growth, why the need for CM.
If there are many Singaporeans buying their 2nd home for investment, there will be less home for 1st timers. So this CM really flavours the 1st timers - be it singaporeans or new citizens. All citizens need a home. Another clue. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha:cheers4: :cheers4: :cheers4: :cheers4: :cheers4: :cheers4:
人人有屋。how come this number different from the other report where they say prices move up 3.8% in Q4?
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