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gerald chan
30-08-06, 19:16
Great layout and 3 different themes of flooring/furnishing to choose from. Within 1km from MGS & Pei Hwa. Cold Storage and NTUC are just across the street. What else to ask for?

kahlid
02-11-06, 17:06
Great layout and 3 different themes of flooring/furnishing to choose from. Within 1km from MGS & Pei Hwa. Cold Storage and NTUC are just across the street. What else to ask for?

Prices are high, average >$680 psf for a 99 LH. Next to railway track is also a pull off.

ryan
06-11-06, 16:39
I suspect King Albert Park will be one of the stations for the future Bukit Timah line. If that is so, then Garden Vista will not seem so expensive anymore....

Properties around here are always going to be coveted by families, because of the many schools around.

lurker
18-11-06, 19:20
Those who bought Gardenvista at low prices must be laughing by now. Sub sale units of Gardenvista have been very successful, with traders making as much as $30k per unit, after tax and fees.

Unregistered
05-03-07, 11:56
raintree will damage the price of garden vista , apparently caveats shows that garden vista's recent transaction prices are going down . Far east is going to get stuck with balance units , Bad for current owners .

Unregistered
08-03-07, 02:43
i heard there is gardenvista 2 launching? how true is that rumour? can anyone confirm?

Unregistered
08-03-07, 07:24
i heard there is gardenvista 2 launching? how true is that rumour? can anyone confirm?
Garden Vista would be freehold

Unregistered
30-03-07, 00:08
If Garden Vista 2 is freehold, I think most buyers would go for it instead. How come they have plans for Garden Vista 2 even when Garden Vista (99 yr) is not sold out yet? This is market cannibalism by Far East.

Unregistered
26-04-07, 20:24
can some one please start a thread for Jardin?

Unregistered
27-04-07, 17:32
can some one please start a thread for Jardin?

what is jardin? is it the Gardenvista 2? heard it is freehold.

Unregistered
28-04-07, 01:44
yes... jardin (french for garden) will be launched soon... total 140U, 90 units of skyhouses and 50 units of tower cluster units.... land area 78-81K sqft ... 5 storeys... sky houses are 2-storey high (lower deck kitchen, living & dining rooms, upper deck bedrooms) overlooking garden vista's pool with communal garden area at the backend ...all facilities on the roof including pool... no tennis court, freehold.. the sky houses (supposed stacked up terraces) ... maintenance sld be around $300+/-

30U 2+1 1032sf
10U 2 897sf
10U 3 1185sf
05U 1 779sf
05U 2 942sf
20U 2+1 1057sf
30U 3+1 1468sf
30U 4+1 1584sf

kahlid
28-04-07, 21:25
saw the ads, selling at $920 psf? Is it not too expensive for a leasehold.

Unregistered
08-05-07, 20:47
yes... jardin (french for garden) will be launched soon... total 140U, 90 units of skyhouses and 50 units of tower cluster units.... land area 78-81K sqft ... 5 storeys... sky houses are 2-storey high (lower deck kitchen, living & dining rooms, upper deck bedrooms) overlooking garden vista's pool with communal garden area at the backend ...all facilities on the roof including pool... no tennis court, freehold.. the sky houses (supposed stacked up terraces) ... maintenance sld be around $300+/-

30U 2+1 1032sf
10U 2 897sf
10U 3 1185sf
05U 1 779sf
05U 2 942sf
20U 2+1 1057sf
30U 3+1 1468sf
30U 4+1 1584sf

Where is the site though? Near the road opposite McD?

If exisiting GV units are going for $920psf onwards... how much are they pricing Jardin? I would presume at least $1,200psf ?

Unregistered
08-05-07, 20:59
for sub sale, is it 1+4% or 1+9% for option to purchase?

Unregistered
03-06-07, 03:49
GardenVista, The Shelford, The Marbella

Which one is the best for 3room for rental purpose?

Unregistered
03-06-07, 16:06
saw the ads, selling at $920 psf? Is it not too expensive for a leasehold.

A BIG banner at the entrance now says... from S$950psf!

Unregistered
03-06-07, 16:15
A BIG banner at the entrance now says... from S$950psf!
yes, way too expensive! better to go with the sterling or maplewoods.

kahlid
08-06-07, 16:52
yes, way too expensive! better to go with the sterling or maplewoods.

now going 4-digit, $1050 psf!!

Unregistered
08-06-07, 17:20
now going 4-digit, $1050 psf!!

for 99 year D21? OMG

Unregistered
08-06-07, 23:08
for 99 year D21? OMG

Hmmm.... The Raintree only 650+ psf now.
In a better location too.

Unregistered
08-06-07, 23:08
for 99 year D21? OMG

You are talking about FE here
Go check out Lakeshore, the ultra density project right in middle of HDB heartland of Jurong and yet they just raised the price to 750-900 psf.
The funny thing is in subsale market, they are only asking 550-650 psf. Isn't it strange?

Unregistered
08-06-07, 23:09
yes, way too expensive! better to go with the sterling or maplewoods.

All these are also asking over $1K psf now :(

Unregistered
08-06-07, 23:28
You are talking about FE here
Go check out Lakeshore, the ultra density project right in middle of HDB heartland of Jurong and yet they just raised the price to 750-900 psf.
The funny thing is in subsale market, they are only asking 550-650 psf. Isn't it strange?

It means flippers are having trouble finding buyers even at 600psf.
Unlike developers, flippers can't afford to holding on too long and they must price to their goods at level where there will be takers.

St.
18-06-07, 10:05
You are talking about FE here
Go check out Lakeshore, the ultra density project right in middle of HDB heartland of Jurong and yet they just raised the price to 750-900 psf.
The funny thing is in subsale market, they are only asking 550-650 psf. Isn't it strange? Pop in their showflat at #07-24 with a friend. guess what? the FEO sales guy told me it is selling at 1300 psf for the left 3+S and 4BR units. The showflat is of 1173 sf, very small (from any viewpoint for a 3+S unit) & with low quality interior, costs some 1.5m !! It was 680 psf about half year ago. It is 99 LH. I guess they did not mean to sell, probably attacting public attention so preparing for their FH GV2 -- the guy told me its soft launch will be soon, within a month...

Madeira
18-06-07, 10:31
Based on URA latest transaction caveats, I think average price are about $800 psf. FEO like to raise prices to scare buyers.

Unregistered
18-06-07, 11:48
FEO is MAD!!!

Unregistered
18-06-07, 13:06
FEO is MAD!!!

Indeed they are, last month, driving past Hillview Regency, the banner reads Choice unit for Sale from $589psf. On Saturday, drove past again and it now reads Choice unit for Sale $700psf.

St.
18-06-07, 13:44
I read that Jardin (=GV2) is expected to launch soon at 1400 psf. So FEO is just preparing the public & lets Jardin's sky-high price 'look' not unreasonable therefore is 'expected'. It's high time for us potential buyers to say NO and to stop the madness.

bentan
18-06-07, 14:28
Will anyone of you consider Dairy Farm if it is priced at 590psf? Heard abt the proposed mrt line coming up but what is the true potential of this old property?

Unregistered
28-06-07, 14:47
GV at 1300psf is cheap lar. Cheaper than similar projects in HK, London and many other world-class cities. GV should sell at 2000psf and foreigners will still buy - only 600plus pounds only. At 1300psf better buy now or prices will rise again. Many enbloc buyers you know. Enbloc windfall. What is 1300 psf to millions of fresh funds. Better grab at 1300psf, or tomorrow it will be 1400 or 1500 psf or 2000psf or 2500psf. After all it was 650psf before, now double already. Market so hot, like choo-choo train passing GV. Like the good old days of 1996. Wonder if 2008 will be "1997"?

St.
28-06-07, 18:20
GV at 1300psf is cheap lar. Cheaper than similar projects in HK, London and many other world-class cities. GV should sell at 2000psf and foreigners will still buy - only 600plus pounds only. At 1300psf better buy now or prices will rise again. Many enbloc buyers you know. Enbloc windfall. What is 1300 psf to millions of fresh funds. Better grab at 1300psf, or tomorrow it will be 1400 or 1500 psf or 2000psf or 2500psf. After all it was 650psf before, now double already. Market so hot, like choo-choo train passing GV. Like the good old days of 1996. Wonder if 2008 will be "1997"?
Its evil to talk up & fool people to buy in overpriced property. Let me know if yourself want to buy GV at 2000 or 2500.

Unregistered
16-07-07, 12:52
Far East is notorious for creating a false market by its pricing banners. In the nineties Ng Teng Fong was the single biggest force in grabbing land at ever higher tender prices and trying to force the entire market up. With 1997 crash he was stuck with huge tracts of land but banks propped him up since they could not afford to let him fail. He would put big banners changing every few weeks to show higher minimum prices at his developments.

Now he is doing the samething. Recently at Hillview Regency he put up banner $700psf then very soon later revised to $735psf. But look at caveats lodged its selling only $600 level. He still has other empty plots in the area with aborted launches a few times over the years.

On Gardenvista he has raised prices on banner to show $1150 psf minimum for remaining units. And if you visit salesmen will tell you renovated units about $1250 to $1300 psf and that people already offered but awaiting cheque so if you give firm offer and bring cheque they can accept your booking.

Moral of the storey is don't blindly believe developers especially those with a bad track record of this kind of behaviour.

Unregistered
16-07-07, 13:06
Its evil to talk up & fool people to buy in overpriced property. Let me know if yourself want to buy GV at 2000 or 2500.

Read that person's tread carefully. The person seems to be saying that foreigners (not locals) will buy and that it seems to be "1996" - the year before the crash. It's ok to that person if foreigners buy and the market crash, as their money will pour into locals' hands. I am not saying that I agree with that person, but read between the lines of that person's quote. It is like a property satire.

Madeira
16-07-07, 13:37
Far East is notorious for creating a false market by its pricing banners. In the nineties Ng Teng Fong was the single biggest force in grabbing land at ever higher tender prices and trying to force the entire market up. With 1997 crash he was stuck with huge tracts of land but banks propped him up since they could not afford to let him fail. He would put big banners changing every few weeks to show higher minimum prices at his developments.

Now he is doing the samething. Recently at Hillview Regency he put up banner $700psf then very soon later revised to $735psf. But look at caveats lodged its selling only $600 level. He still has other empty plots in the area with aborted launches a few times over the years.

On Gardenvista he has raised prices on banner to show $1150 psf minimum for remaining units. And if you visit salesmen will tell you renovated units about $1250 to $1300 psf and that people already offered but awaiting cheque so if you give firm offer and bring cheque they can accept your booking.

Moral of the storey is don't blindly believe developers especially those with a bad track record of this kind of behaviour.

Agreed. Hillview Regency still got so many unsold units. The land lease started from Year 2000. It is already 2007 now and the project is still not sold out when the property market is so red hot now.

St.
17-07-07, 11:07
Read that person's tread carefully. The person seems to be saying that foreigners (not locals) will buy and that it seems to be "1996" - the year before the crash. It's ok to that person if foreigners buy and the market crash, as their money will pour into locals' hands. I am not saying that I agree with that person, but read between the lines of that person's quote. It is like a property satire. Thanks. :)

Unregistered
24-07-07, 18:47
we started home viewing and studying last year, the price had been moving gradually, and i read forums like this, a lot of people listed negative points of properties (almost all properties have plenty of negative comments), developer (esp far east) not good, price crasy, so on and so on,
we hesitated, and indeed, no property was fully satisfactory,,, after a few months of viewing, price rose further, we decided to grab one which was still affordable and meets our needs (location, facilities, quality, design...). Now we have it. We didn't regret. Since the place really meets our needs, we enjoy living here, we appreciate. And price has gone up much further, lastest transacted deal was at least 30% higher than what we paid, with such price we are not able to pay already. Of course we are not making money here but what i am trying to say is that, for one need a home, we need to make up mind by more realistic thinking and make decision fast, while not be too serious about what other people's talks. Still, very constructive talks here and appreciate all your inputs. Go on guys. -))

Unregistered
18-03-08, 23:09
well as someone who has stayed in FEO's property, i would not buy any of their properties. price aside, the furnishings are just not up to mark.

Unregisteredppl
24-07-08, 19:49
I think Garden Vista is too near the busy road, can be quite noisy depending where ur unit is...................

Unregistered888
26-07-08, 00:57
shortie developments with no view is not worth buying. go 4 luxurious beacon heights along mar thoma road which is the tallest development near boon keng mrt (28 floors). it is 999 years with full condo facilities (50m lap pool and tennis court etc), 5 min drive to town or 3 MRT STOPS to town, it has spectacular view of the city skyline, strategically situated in the middle of singapore and accessible to all parts of singapore as it is within minutes from the future woodsville interchange coming along, it is a peaceful neighbourhood whilst near town, priced below 1k psf.....etc etc. If you think orchard is central, look at the map and you will realise that boon keng is more central in singapore compared to orchard or dhoby ghaut area. So what are you guys waiting for......HOT HOT HOT GO AND BUY!!!!

Unregisteredagain
26-07-08, 09:16
shortie developments with no view is not worth buying. go 4 luxurious beacon heights along mar thoma road which is the tallest development near boon keng mrt (28 floors). it is 999 years with full condo facilities (50m lap pool and tennis court etc), 5 min drive to town or 3 MRT STOPS to town, it has spectacular view of the city skyline, strategically situated in the middle of singapore and accessible to all parts of singapore as it is within minutes from the future woodsville interchange coming along, it is a peaceful neighbourhood whilst near town, priced below 1k psf.....etc etc. If you think orchard is central, look at the map and you will realise that boon keng is more central in singapore compared to orchard or dhoby ghaut area. So what are you guys waiting for......HOT HOT HOT GO AND BUY!!!!

You agents/sub-sellers are PATHETIC !!!! If the development is any good people will buy. No point trying to hijack someone else's forum. This is about Gardenvista. Obviously this Bacon Hikes condo is some shitty piece of real estate that you need to try to push so hard to get rid of.

Unregistered2
04-11-08, 16:21
Indeed they are, last month, driving past Hillview Regency, the banner reads Choice unit for Sale from $589psf. On Saturday, drove past again and it now reads Choice unit for Sale $700psf.

I believe they have different promotion each time. all promotion has it's own valid time wat? It's not like one hour ago u saw it then change, rite? Every company comes with their different promotion products or services for once in a while. U cant expect same price for different view or different floor, am I rite? what if the promotion unit at that time finished oredi?
Ur product never out of stock meh?? Next time, think first before giving comment..

moonk123
19-11-08, 21:28
Project Name-GARDENVISTA
Developer-YHS Dunearn Pte Ltd(Far East Organization)
Property Type-Condominium
Tenure - 99 Yrs From 09/09/1999
Total Units - 318
Completion Date - Jun-2006
District - 21

http://www.virtualhomes.sg/FileUpload/Project/75/Images/in4.jpg

http://www.virtualhomes.sg/FileUpload/Project/75/Images/floor_type%20B2.jpg

http://www.virtualhomes.sg/FileUpload/Project/75/Images/site.jpg

SEE ALSO THE 720 degree virtual from

http://www.virtualhomes.sg/gardenvista

sushi
05-03-09, 21:08
What is the reasonable price you would pay for a 2 bedder here?

sushi
19-03-09, 22:39
What is the reasonable price you would pay for a 2 bedder here?

Any kind soul out there can advice on this? For a 99 years lease, how much psf are you willing to pay for a 2 bedroom unit, 861sqft?

jonleelk
30-03-09, 16:34
Any kind soul out there can advice on this? For a 99 years lease, how much psf are you willing to pay for a 2 bedroom unit, 861sqft?

Price before the 2008 boom.

When garden Vista was just going to TOP, my brother bought an unit there for 6xxpsf. Sold 9 mths later during the 2008 boom at 9xx psf.

propertysale01
14-04-09, 00:57
http://www.postimage.org/Pq1T0gqJ.jpg

http://www.postimage.org/aV1TQaEr.jpg


GardenVista: Explore the garden fantasy of lifestyle living.

http://www.postimage.org/aV1TSAO9.jpg

Nearby Convenient Amenities:

Ngnee Ann Polytechnic & Singapore Institute of Management (Tertiary studies) | Cold Storage | Mac Donald | German School | Singapore Island Country Club | Raffles Girls School | Turf City.

Gardenvista Facts:

TOP: 4th Quarter of 2006.

Total 7 units: 10 story each.

Land area: 191,000 sqft.

Total units: 318 units.


Private lift lobby for 3 bedroom, 3 + S and 4 bedroom.

FACILITIES

• Water features and landscaped Gardens
• Recreational swimming pools
• BBQ pits (5nos.)
• Playground
• Putting green
• Tennis courts
• Indoor recreational facilities

AMENITIES


• Near major shopping centres
• Near beautiful parks
• Golf course
• Near top schools


Last 3 bedroom unit at: 1130 sqft.
Important Info: Last exclusive unit left. First come first serve basis.

Best location for study facilitation for your kids. They are top schools with quality educational system set for your children's future study development.

Interested party for viewing: Please call 90287921. for appointment viewing..

franzmark
14-04-09, 01:06
the guy who bought it at 9xxpsf must be either crazy or too loaded to be concerned bout psf pricing...



Price before the 2008 boom.

When garden Vista was just going to TOP, my brother bought an unit there for 6xxpsf. Sold 9 mths later during the 2008 boom at 9xx psf.

propertysale01
14-04-09, 11:21
[quote=propertysale01]http://www.postimage.org/Pq1T0gqJ.jpg

http://www.postimage.org/aV1TQaEr.jpg


GardenVista: Explore the garden fantasy of lifestyle living.

http://www.postimage.org/aV1TSAO9.jpg

Nearby Convenient Amenities:

Ngnee Ann Polytechnic & Singapore Institute of Management (Tertiary studies) | Cold Storage | Mac Donald | German School | Singapore Island Country Club | Raffles Girls School | Turf City.

Gardenvista Facts:

TOP: 4th Quarter of 2006.

Total 7 units: 10 story each.

Land area: 191,000 sqft.

Total units: 318 units.


Private lift lobby for 3 bedroom, 3 + S and 4 bedroom.

FACILITIES

• Water features and landscaped Gardens
• Recreational swimming pools
• BBQ pits (5nos.)
• Playground
• Putting green
• Tennis courts
• Indoor recreational facilities

AMENITIES


• Near major shopping centres
• Near beautiful parks
• Golf course
• Near top schools


Last 3 bedroom unit at: 1130 sqft.
Important Info: Last exclusive unit left. First come first serve basis.

Best location for study facilitation for your kids. They are top schools with quality educational system set for your children's future study development.

Interested party for viewing: Please call 90287921. for appointment viewing..

http://www.postimage.org/Pq1VSn8A.jpg
Sound Garden...Artist impression.

http://www.postimage.org/aV1WH2or.jpg

Colour Garden...Artist impression.

http://www.postimage.org/Pq1VTNWJ.jpg

Frangrance Garden...Artist impression.

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Texture Garden...Artist impression.

http://www.postimage.org/gx144mQi.jpg

Water Feature by the Pool

http://www.postimage.org/Pq1VViJ9.jpg

Beautiful outside view

http://www.postimage.org/gx144OgS.jpg

Children Playground.


More would be coming out soon...

jonleelk
14-04-09, 11:53
why never show pics of the construction of Jardin? :D :D :D

jonleelk
14-04-09, 22:43
the guy who bought it at 9xxpsf must be either crazy or too loaded to be concerned bout psf pricing...

Was viewing floridian this evening. The FEO agent said 9 units of GV were sold in the first quarter this year, now left with only one unit. All units sold average $950psf!!!

franzmark
15-04-09, 03:11
FLoridian is nothing as bad as Hillvista by FEO. I went to the showflat and the agent was praising the layout high and low and was critising projects like Clover saying that the latter has odd shaped layout with lots of wasted space. He mentioned all the good things about hillvista but left out the most important thing...........hillvista is in a cock location with practically zero amenities within 5 minutes walking distance of the condo...:doh:



Was viewing floridian this evening. The FEO agent said 9 units of GV were sold in the first quarter this year, now left with only one unit. All units sold average $950psf!!!

franzmark
15-04-09, 03:17
the best part is the agent was trying to justify why hillvista in a place like hillview (D23) can command more than 1k psf. i still don't see how any condo in hillview can be priced at anything close to 1k psf when city fringe mid tier condos are already priced below 1k psf. Another joke is Park Natura along Old Jurong Rd which was supposedly selling well at 1k psf with also no amenities within 5 minutes walking distance except a bus-stop and a Shell petrol kiosk in front. The MRT station is at least 2 km away and there is no way you can walk to either Westmall or Bt Timah Shopping Centre....Such projects by FEO and their pricing really boggles me till this day.....:doh:

WolleyDragon
16-04-09, 14:29
why never show pics of the construction of Jardin? :D :D :D

also.. never show how close the railway (note it's a RAILWAY.. not a MRT line) is.. Noise is terrible..

Also must highlight the difference between brochure showflat and the actual flat.. quality and finishing is way too disappointing.. :doh:

stalingrad
16-04-09, 14:43
also.. never show how close the railway (note it's a RAILWAY.. not a MRT line) is.. Noise is terrible..

Also must highlight the difference between brochure showflat and the actual flat.. quality and finishing is way too disappointing.. :doh:

So save yourself time and trouble and do like I do. I give a miss to all FEO projects. When an agent tells me about a condo, my immediate question is: who is the developer. If the answer is FEO, I just give a smile and say thank you.

Property_Owner
16-04-09, 15:42
Was viewing floridian this evening. The FEO agent said 9 units of GV were sold in the first quarter this year, now left with only one unit. All units sold average $950psf!!!

An agent sms me. Last unit 960psf. So good meh?

propertysale01
29-04-09, 09:24
This is for your kind information:

Garden Vista, has been sold out! The last unit at level 7 has been sold out.

Interested party for other Far East projects,

do give me a call at

90287921. Aaron.

Warmest regards.

JohnTan
29-04-09, 10:00
This is for your kind information:

Garden Vista, has been sold out! The last unit at level 7 has been sold out.

Interested party for other Far East projects,

do give me a call at

90287921. Aaron.

Warmest regards.

Thats the only way they can justify floridian 1200psf sale price. Buyers beware. :D

phantom_opera
27-07-12, 20:25
#10-XX 1,109sqft
2005-12-30 663 psf
2012-07-05 1,281psf

$685,362 10.6% pa

Thanks to Jardin and DTL2

yjcai
28-07-12, 08:08
the best part is the agent was trying to justify why hillvista in a place like hillview (D23) can command more than 1k psf. i still don't see how any condo in hillview can be priced at anything close to 1k psf when city fringe mid tier condos are already priced below 1k psf. Another joke is Park Natura along Old Jurong Rd which was supposedly selling well at 1k psf with also no amenities within 5 minutes walking distance except a bus-stop and a Shell petrol kiosk in front. The MRT station is at least 2 km away and there is no way you can walk to either Westmall or Bt Timah Shopping Centre....Such projects by FEO and their pricing really boggles me till this day.....:doh:

Sees funny posts in 09. Now hillviewers are smiling. With Lanai Hillier Hillv2 Hillvista and the Lam Soon plot coming up. The enbloc fever will hit again.

Ammneties and MRT (plus points for convenient HDB estates) are not really consideration buy for stay for the aspired rich-wanabe who demands serene, quiet and possibly out of the world location. If thats the case people living in serangoon gardens, sixth avenue and holland kill themselves long ago. The mindset has to switch compared to investment properties and OCR condos in HDB estates.

Besides only someone richer than you can afford to pay for your sky high property isn't it, perhaps someone who loves these areas and hates chewren. Park Natura faces the park directly. Although that place jam pack during peak hours but generally is quiet. The place is gradually occupied. I do not see a problem selling higher in the future when such areas gradually become lesser in supply.

yowetan
28-07-12, 08:16
Sees funny posts in 09. Now hillviewers are smiling. With Lanai Hillier Hillv2 Hillvista and the Lam Soon plot coming up. The enbloc fever will hit again.

Ammneties and MRT (plus points for convenient HDB estates) are not really consideration buy for stay for the aspired rich-wanabe who demands serene, quiet and possibly out of the world location. If thats the case people living in serangoon gardens, sixth avenue and holland kill themselves long ago. The mindset has to switch compared to investment properties. Besides only someone richer than you can afford to pay for your sky high property isn't it, perhaps someone who loves these areas and hates chewren. Park Natura faces the park directly. Although that place jam pack during peak hours but generally is quiet.

I like hillview, however there is no good primary schools.

What is so great with hillview? There are so many developments there.

yjcai
28-07-12, 08:24
I like hillview, however there is no good primary schools.

What is so great with hillview? There are so many developments there.

Then my questions to you is why you like Mount Sinai and Henry Park which is similar in surrounding areas terraces deteached semi-detached and condominiums also so many developments there or unless you are aiming to sell higher ? Hillview: Not that great in my opinion but potential is there but maybe instead you should come d23 and scout.

Good Primary schools in Mount Sinai is a plus point but in my opinion area not very children friendly. That place is what I call really Hantu at night. Kids: Potential of making friends in neighborhood, walking into mount sinai and walking out (travel) is a hassle unless you buying car for them and watch for kids development too. I think the obsession of good primary schools should not cloud the overall judgement of what you are actually buying in the area. Primary school is not where the networking session actually starts. I value Secondary school development more. In fact I will send my kid to Primary schools that allow the kid to learn how to fist fight and survive on his own.

yowetan
28-07-12, 12:30
Then my questions to you is why you like Mount Sinai and Henry Park which is similar in surrounding areas terraces deteached semi-detached and condominiums also so many developments there or unless you are aiming to sell higher ? Hillview: Not that great in my opinion but potential is there but maybe instead you should come d23 and scout.

Good Primary schools in Mount Sinai is a plus point but in my opinion area not very children friendly. That place is what I call really Hantu at night. Kids: Potential of making friends in neighborhood, walking into mount sinai and walking out (travel) is a hassle unless you buying car for them and watch for kids development too. I think the obsession of good primary schools should not cloud the overall judgement of what you are actually buying in the area. Primary school is not where the networking session actually starts. I value Secondary school development more. In fact I will send my kid to Primary schools that allow the kid to learn how to fist fight and survive on his own.

I love Mt Sinai because it is:

1. Near to Henry Park Primary
2. Near to Gim Moh Market and Holland V
3. Near to Buona Vista MRT and Shopping malls
4. Near to my workplace along queensway and commonwealth
5. Driving distance and straight accessibilities to Orchard and Bukit Timah belt
6. Near to good schools like NUS, Singapore Polytechnics, Ngee Ann Polytechnics
7. Driving distance to NUH hospital, AH hospital and Gleneagles Hospital
8. Quiet, tranquil, serene and exclusive enclave for my kids and parents/in-laws.

As for Hillview area, I feel there are too many masses condos and it is very near to Bukit Panjang which is relatively north-western area.

yjcai
28-07-12, 14:30
Thats great. In that case got to pay more.


I love Mt Sinai because it is:

1. Near to Henry Park Primary
2. Near to Gim Moh Market and Holland V
3. Near to Buona Vista MRT and Shopping malls
4. Near to my workplace along queensway and commonwealth
5. Driving distance and straight accessibilities to Orchard and Bukit Timah belt
6. Near to good schools like NUS, Singapore Polytechnics, Ngee Ann Polytechnics
7. Driving distance to NUH hospital, AH hospital and Gleneagles Hospital
8. Quiet, tranquil, serene and exclusive enclave for my kids and parents/in-laws.

As for Hillview area, I feel there are too many masses condos and it is very near to Bukit Panjang which is relatively north-western area.

yowetan
29-07-12, 11:09
Thats great. In that case got to pay more.

Hi... Could you enlighten me what's magical and attractive in Hillview area? I would like to see and understand your perspective of that area.

primeesense
30-07-12, 09:10
I went to school in the mt sinai area, for both Primary School and JC.

I was poor, and my family didn't have a car. I remember once, my dad had to pick me up from school at night after some dance event. Everyone had parents who drove to the school to pick them up - except my dad. My dad said he had to hide in a corner in the canteen. We took the bus home in the end, in the dark.

That really affected me. Anyway, this is just a small story. Just want to let you know that sometimes adults dont know how kids are affected. It's not always about the school.


I love Mt Sinai because it is:

1. Near to Henry Park Primary
2. Near to Gim Moh Market and Holland V
3. Near to Buona Vista MRT and Shopping malls
4. Near to my workplace along queensway and commonwealth
5. Driving distance and straight accessibilities to Orchard and Bukit Timah belt
6. Near to good schools like NUS, Singapore Polytechnics, Ngee Ann Polytechnics
7. Driving distance to NUH hospital, AH hospital and Gleneagles Hospital
8. Quiet, tranquil, serene and exclusive enclave for my kids and parents/in-laws.

As for Hillview area, I feel there are too many masses condos and it is very near to Bukit Panjang which is relatively north-western area.

yowetan
30-07-12, 09:14
I went to school in the mt sinai area, for both Primary School and JC.

I was poor, and my family didn't have a car. I remember once, my dad had to pick me up from school at night after some dance event. Everyone had parents who drove to the school to pick them up - except my dad. My dad said he had to hide in a corner in the canteen. We took the bus home in the end, in the dark.

That really affected me. Anyway, this is just a small story. Just want to let you know that sometimes adults dont know how kids are affected. It's not always about the school.

Hi primeesense. Thanks for sharing and reminding me of this situation.

phantom_opera
30-07-12, 09:30
I went to school in the mt sinai area, for both Primary School and JC.

I was poor, and my family didn't have a car. I remember once, my dad had to pick me up from school at night after some dance event. Everyone had parents who drove to the school to pick them up - except my dad. My dad said he had to hide in a corner in the canteen. We took the bus home in the end, in the dark.

That really affected me. Anyway, this is just a small story. Just want to let you know that sometimes adults dont know how kids are affected. It's not always about the school.

How did that affect you? If you were your dad, what would u do? Sorry for being kaypoh :ashamed1:

primeesense
30-07-12, 10:46
Well I just felt rather small, I guess. "Affected" in the sense that I still remember it 20+ years later, and I just thought it's a good story to show that there are a lot of social pressure for the child in going to a "good school". The pressure can be taken well, or perhaps not so well, depending on the child.





How did that affect you? If you were your dad, what would u do? Sorry for being kaypoh :ashamed1:

yowetan
30-07-12, 12:01
Well I just felt rather small, I guess. "Affected" in the sense that I still remember it 20+ years later, and I just thought it's a good story to show that there are a lot of social pressure for the child in going to a "good school". The pressure can be taken well, or perhaps not so well, depending on the child.

Hi. I guess your dad fails to protrays himself positively thus causing you to be affected after so many years.

yowetan
30-07-12, 12:01
Well I just felt rather small, I guess. "Affected" in the sense that I still remember it 20+ years later, and I just thought it's a good story to show that there are a lot of social pressure for the child in going to a "good school". The pressure can be taken well, or perhaps not so well, depending on the child.

Hi. I guess your dad fails to protrays himself positively thus causing you to be affected after so many years.

Wild Falcon
03-08-12, 14:05
After reading the below, I think the only criteria you're looking for is an elite school. Just go for it. And i don't see what is wrong with northwest - too "masses" for you huh? If you look for nature (real nature not fake gardens), quiet and tranquility, nothing can beat the northwest in Singapore. And i suspect there are more condos along the Holland Rd stretch than Hillview. in fact, Mt Sinai is just beside Clementi HDB flats - more dense. And Henry Park balloting is mad for within 1km. Too many homes around it already. and holland v is the most overrated place with chain restaurants.

I've read your posts and you're one of those who will do anything to get your child into an elite school and that's about the greatest dream in your life. Hillview does not have any primary schools (i think the only school is CHIJ Bt Timah with 1km), so i guess its more suited for people who already has affiliation and doesn't need to go through the 1km route. So it's not for you lah. Continue looking at Mt Sinai.


I love Mt Sinai because it is:

1. Near to Henry Park Primary
2. Near to Gim Moh Market and Holland V
3. Near to Buona Vista MRT and Shopping malls
4. Near to my workplace along queensway and commonwealth
5. Driving distance and straight accessibilities to Orchard and Bukit Timah belt
6. Near to good schools like NUS, Singapore Polytechnics, Ngee Ann Polytechnics
7. Driving distance to NUH hospital, AH hospital and Gleneagles Hospital
8. Quiet, tranquil, serene and exclusive enclave for my kids and parents/in-laws.

As for Hillview area, I feel there are too many masses condos and it is very near to Bukit Panjang which is relatively north-western area.

phantom_opera
03-08-12, 14:48
I agree Holland V is fast losing its charm ... MRT opening make it worse, it is so lacking of space that some restaurants are putting their tables / chairs along the sidewalk .... there are better alternatives like Marina Bay, Vivocity

carbuncle
03-08-12, 15:01
Well I just felt rather small, I guess. "Affected" in the sense that I still remember it 20+ years later, and I just thought it's a good story to show that there are a lot of social pressure for the child in going to a "good school". The pressure can be taken well, or perhaps not so well, depending on the child.

Allow me to kaypoh... but I think you should be rotan 10x for being so superficial and compare with others over frivolous stuff. :simmering:

If you think you suffered, how worse do you think your dad felt??

Pynchmail
05-06-16, 10:50
Despite the ups and downs, the financial crisis, the cooling measures and what not, this project has been transacting consistently at about $1200 psf for the past 5 years with fairly regular transactions. Always interesting to read old thread such as this. Not easy predicting prices.

spikey69
13-04-18, 08:56
any positive spillover effect from Mayfair Garden's enbloc?