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chestnut
06-11-12, 05:50
This could be the next big thing - 3 d printing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ-aWFYT_SU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Cool rite.

DC2003 - u were asking me? This could be the next big thing. Got it?

:D :D

chestnut
06-11-12, 06:14
In a nutshell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_printing

chestnut
06-11-12, 06:17
Oops, I put in wrong thread. Sorri.... Will shift to coffee shop talk.

How to shift:confused: :confused:

Paiseh

roly8
06-11-12, 06:19
only admin/mod can shift la..


anyway, me is against using paper nowadays..

it is digital age now! :cheers1:

chestnut
06-11-12, 06:21
only admin/mod can shift la..


anyway, me is against using paper nowadays..

it is digital age now! :cheers1:

Bro, I going to shift. This 1 not paper. Bro, you go in take a look, it will blow your mind. Can print spanner, bike, in future, also house. Let me set up in coffee shop then we talk. U can advise me leh.

:cool:

chestnut
06-11-12, 06:25
Please ignore this and go coffee shop talk to discuss. Paiseh, put in wrong thread. Too excited.

smpeh
06-11-12, 06:32
Bro, I going to shift. This 1 not paper. Bro, you go in take a look, it will blow your mind. Can print spanner, bike, in future, also house. Let me set up in coffee shop then we talk. U can advise me leh.

:cool:

Chestnut bro, Some companies is already using for quite some time. The difference is the tolerance, size of machine and speed. Now u can get 1 in your home less than us$2k. However require to buy the material from the manufacturer.

http://cubify.com/cube/

chestnut
06-11-12, 06:38
Chestnut bro, Some companies is already using for quite some time. The difference is the tolerance, size of machine and speed. Now u can get 1 in your home less than us$2k. However require to buy the material from the manufacturer.

http://cubify.com/cube/

Bro, u know can also print metal?
Can discuss in coffee shop talk?

lifeline
06-11-12, 10:21
hi chestnut, this technology is indeed amazing when i saw it last time.
you can even purchase it here.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/formlabs/form-1-an-affordable-professional-3d-printer

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1650950769/l5-3d-a-stylish-and-affordable-3d-printer

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/printrbot/printrbot-your-first-3d-printer
this is the expandable type. can even replicate itself.


do you know? they are even trying the next frontier of printing your own medicines.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jul/21/chemputer-that-prints-out-drugs

http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/the-next-frontier-for-3d-printing-drugs-20120420/


or print themselves out of handcuffs!
http://www.webpronews.com/3d-print-your-way-out-of-handcuffs-2012-07




next time can just print our dream condo unit to satisfy our urge to buy! :D

chestnut
06-11-12, 10:28
Bro, can discuss at coffeeshop talk. I put in wrong thread. But there are plans to be able to build houses based on this technology. So you are rite. I now doing research on this and going to meet my friend up next week in manufacturing space. They say, there are deployments already in manufacturing space.



hi chestnut, this technology is indeed amazing when i saw it last time.
you can even purchase it here.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/formlabs/form-1-an-affordable-professional-3d-printer

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1650950769/l5-3d-a-stylish-and-affordable-3d-printer

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/printrbot/printrbot-your-first-3d-printer
this is the expandable type. can even replicate itself.


do you know? they are even trying the next frontier of printing your own medicines.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jul/21/chemputer-that-prints-out-drugs

http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/the-next-frontier-for-3d-printing-drugs-20120420/


or print themselves out of handcuffs!
http://www.webpronews.com/3d-print-your-way-out-of-handcuffs-2012-07




next time can just print our dream condo unit to satisfy our urge to buy! :D

lifeline
06-11-12, 10:45
dun worry. the mod will come by and shift the thread. happens to many threads.

chestnut
06-11-12, 10:47
OK... But my plan now is to spot future star products.... I have the knack for this.... But did not put into works.... So this is my future retirement job....

lifeline
06-11-12, 12:30
OK... But my plan now is to spot future star products.... I have the knack for this.... But did not put into works.... So this is my future retirement job....


wah! angel investing! :D

chestnut
06-11-12, 14:31
wah! angel investing! :D

Bro, angel investor must wait until cry. I have seen a few angel investors drown the their money.
I missed a few boats because I was first caught up with work, then caught up with properties. Been super lazy on getting gems. Knew Apple would become big with ipod, then iphone, ipad, itunes store and icloud.

Missed out on HTC as well.

So now must spot next trend. Already spotted another and reading up on it.

:cheers4:

chestnut
13-08-13, 15:15
Check out the shares

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SSYS+Basic+Chart&t=1y

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=DDD+Basic+Chart&t=1y

The beauty in spotting the new star....

How much was the shares in Nov 6?????

How much is it now????

Time to unload some.....

:D:D:D:D:D:D

Werther
14-08-13, 00:13
Check out the shares

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SSYS+Basic+Chart&t=1y

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=DDD+Basic+Chart&t=1y

The beauty in spotting the new star....

How much was the shares in Nov 6?????

How much is it now????

Time to unload some.....

:D:D:D:D:D:D

Wow chestnut,

You have done well. Congrats!:cheers4:

chestnut
14-08-13, 04:37
Wow chestnut,

You have done well. Congrats!:cheers4:

Bro, there are still stocks in US that is way undervalued....

Clue - look at casino stocks...

LVS exploded because of the Macau and Singapore story....

Look at stocks that are Vegas based.... When the economy booms, Vegas will boom.... It is already starting to recover...

Even my AIG is showing beginning to shine after so long...

Sold my intel off @ 24 bucks a while ago... Sold my HP off @ 25. Hahahaha

But you really need to do a lot of homework... It is more tedious than studying property market....

There are other instruments available other than properties lar... I literally shared with you guys on 3d printing leh...

Cheers

Werther
14-08-13, 18:28
Bro, there are still stocks in US that is way undervalued....

Clue - look at casino stocks...

LVS exploded because of the Macau and Singapore story....

Look at stocks that are Vegas based.... When the economy booms, Vegas will boom.... It is already starting to recover...

Even my AIG is showing beginning to shine after so long...

Sold my intel off @ 24 bucks a while ago... Sold my HP off @ 25. Hahahaha

But you really need to do a lot of homework... It is more tedious than studying property market....

There are other instruments available other than properties lar... I literally shared with you guys on 3d printing leh...

Cheers

Yes, you have indeed shared this with us some time back but I was too green and timid to jump in.

I not familiar with US market... Any recommendation for Sti instead? Seriously, holding cash is such a pain cos not generating any $$... Sigh property now cannot buy...

star
14-08-13, 19:29
Hi chestnut u mean LVS still can buy now?
How about bank of america?

chestnut
14-08-13, 19:46
Hi chestnut u mean LVS still can buy now?
How about bank of america?

LVS is story of Asia.... Right time, right place... Suggest you go for laggards....
do some research...

Machiam when CCR boom in 2005/6 (thereabouts - cannot remember the actual dates).. You should go RCR and OCR... this 2 segments were the laggards...

BOA, cannot comment... But I am holding Citi.... At peak Citi was worth 500+ (taking into account reverse stock split) and today @ 51.77. In other words, it is worth 10% of its peak value...

Citi is too big to fail...

The reason for the reverse split is for fund managers to buy into the shares... AIG did that as well... Fund managers will not go into single digit stocks...

I don't play all counters... Wah, so many leh....

I studied into the company and see if it has a story...

The goal of stocks is - not all counter you will make money... But if the overall portfolio is +ve, then it is ok... The market is very volatile...

Most of the time, I sell when 1/2 the stocks doubled up. Which means, the other half is 'free of charge'. But those days are gone...

Bought Keppel land @ 1.3 inclusive rights issue, sold 1/2 @ 3.4... So got profit and the other half still holding is all profit...

Remember, those days are gone.... Now to make money, you need to work harder... Just like props in 2005, thereabouts, you take a dart and throw into the map of Singapore... Sure make money... Hahahaha

All the big money all gone liao... So the play is different now...

I am now in preservation mode... So dabble here a bit, dabble there a bit...

Will be looking out for new star items shortly.... But take a lot of my time to do research...

There are other simpler instruments like bonds.... But try not to go long dated or perpetual... At the moment unless NAV super low...

Cheers:cheers4:

chestnut
14-08-13, 19:57
Yes, you have indeed shared this with us some time back but I was too green and timid to jump in.

I not familiar with US market... Any recommendation for Sti instead? Seriously, holding cash is such a pain cos not generating any $$... Sigh property now cannot buy...

Bro, after 6 mths, you still new bird leh.... Really, don't just listen to people and buy... You must do due diligence leh.... You need to look @ P/E ratio of companies in same industry to compare. Look at book value. Look at story line. Look at economy... Bro, you must read up leh....

Don't know how to tell you so much in this forum.... It too many many many years and failures to be able to understand....

I am very diversified leh... Aud bonds, Singapore bonds, local stocks, us stocks, europe stocks, properties local and aud, blah, blah, blah....

The only thing I can share with you is... Me feel US market will bounce... All should I say already bounced... I shared in the forum for people to whack US market a while ago leh....

So timing needs to be good to catch the wave... But when things are relatively high, just hold cash... I am holding quite a fair bit of that leh... I always believe in black swan.... And need to prepare for that...

But whatever you do, please don't let the bankers tell you what to do.... Be very careful... I lost about 100grand with them... Now they listen to what I tell them to do... HAHAHAHAHAHA
:cheers4:
:cheers4:

stl67
14-08-13, 20:06
Thank you tai kor for sharing.

chestnut
14-08-13, 20:18
This is long term, if you guys have patience....

No pow hor... 3d printing was a sure thing... This one is longgggggg.....

4G (lte) will ultimately take over from 3G.

Why??? New technology and most phone now come with 4g... The telcos will want all subscribers to go 4g to make only from download (data). Voice is dying... Because with broadband, now you can do talk time/ skype, etc... Without using talk time... So how in the hell will telcos make money... With data... With faster speed, you will use more data and that is ultimately where they going to get revenue stream....

So look into 4g tower leasing companies or companies that sell 4g equipments to the telcos...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tower-companies-benefit-4g-lte-155500793.html

Do your own due diligence.... If you believe in 4g... HAHAHAHAHAHA

:cheers4:

cbsh38584
14-08-13, 21:04
Let make investing simple for those who are busy working, don't know FA/TA well, not hard working type etc.

1. Money is made by sitting, not trading all the time

2. It takes time to make money. Just be very patience.

3. There is a time for all things, but you & I don't know when.
But we know that when there extreme fear in the mkt. It is the time.
Herd investing is a guarantee for failure.

rdgs,
Vic

chestnut
14-08-13, 21:16
Let make investing simple for those who are busy working, don't know FA/TA well, not hard working type etc.

1. Money is made by sitting, not trading all the time

2. It takes time to make money. Just be very patience.

3. There is a time for all things, but you & I don't know when.
But we know that when there extreme fear in the mkt. It is the time.
Herd investing is a guarantee for failure.

rdgs,
Vic

Bro, honestly... When there is extreme fear, which stock to buy??? That is the key??? When it happen and u start doing homework, game over before u even know it....

Need to know which industry to go into. Within that industry which is the stock???
Cannot suka suka just buy leh...

All the homework needs to be done beforehand leh....

I agree with your strategy. But really more than just that leh...

Just my open honest view...

:cheers4:

Werther
14-08-13, 21:32
Good evening cbsh & chestnut

Thanks so much for yr sharing. Both yr advice come very aptly.

I hv been feeling vexed lately, $$ sitting there doing nothing...rather not sure what to do. Buy shares also lose money sianz.

Other than waiting, I don't know what to do....rally feel like buying and pay ABSD cos now need more breathing space, otherwise spouse always get upset and complain not enough space.

Do bro here think renting is a good option? But if i rent for $4k a month, 2 years, $100k... Versus if I buy pty $2.5m and pay 10% ABSD...so renting is better ?? I m so lost..l:doh:

cbsh38584
14-08-13, 21:33
Bro, honestly... When there is extreme fear, which stock to buy??? That is the key??? When it happen and u start doing homework, game over before u even know it....

Need to know which industry to go into. Within that industry which is the stock???
Cannot suka suka just buy leh...

All the homework needs to be done beforehand leh....

I agree with your strategy. But really more than just that leh...

Just my open honest view...

:cheers4:

I think some of the novice investors who do not know what to buy . Then I think unit trust is a better alternative to invest like Schroder Asian growth fund, Aberdeen pacific equity & 1st state dividend fund.

Corporate Bond can be a alternative income without leveraging. But not many want or dare to venture into it.

rdgs,
Vic

slepland
14-08-13, 21:54
LVS is story of Asia.... Right time, right place... Suggest you go for laggards....
do some research...

Machiam when CCR boom in 2005/6 (thereabouts - cannot remember the actual dates).. You should go RCR and OCR... this 2 segments were the laggards...

BOA, cannot comment... But I am holding Citi.... At peak Citi was worth 500+ (taking into account reverse stock split) and today @ 51.77. In other words, it is worth 10% of its peak value...

Citi is too big to fail...

The reason for the reverse split is for fund managers to buy into the shares... AIG did that as well... Fund managers will not go into single digit stocks...

I don't play all counters... Wah, so many leh....

I studied into the company and see if it has a story...

The goal of stocks is - not all counter you will make money... But if the overall portfolio is +ve, then it is ok... The market is very volatile...

Most of the time, I sell when 1/2 the stocks doubled up. Which means, the other half is 'free of charge'. But those days are gone...

Bought Keppel land @ 1.3 inclusive rights issue, sold 1/2 @ 3.4... So got profit and the other half still holding is all profit...

Remember, those days are gone.... Now to make money, you need to work harder... Just like props in 2005, thereabouts, you take a dart and throw into the map of Singapore... Sure make money... Hahahaha

All the big money all gone liao... So the play is different now...

I am now in preservation mode... So dabble here a bit, dabble there a bit...

Will be looking out for new star items shortly.... But take a lot of my time to do research...

There are other simpler instruments like bonds.... But try not to go long dated or perpetual... At the moment unless NAV super low...

Cheers:cheers4:

Chestnut, thank you for sharing. those were the days.

3centsworth
14-08-13, 22:50
Bro, there are still stocks in US that is way undervalued....

Clue - look at casino stocks...

LVS exploded because of the Macau and Singapore story....

Look at stocks that are Vegas based.... When the economy booms, Vegas will boom.... It is already starting to recover...

Even my AIG is showing beginning to shine after so long...

Sold my intel off @ 24 bucks a while ago... Sold my HP off @ 25. Hahahaha

But you really need to do a lot of homework... It is more tedious than studying property market....

There are other instruments available other than properties lar... I literally shared with you guys on 3d printing leh...

Cheers

3D share has gone up quite a bit. At current price, it is no longer attractive. Trailing PE at 112. PEG at 2.37 looks high.

Earning must significantly improve to increase value.

proud owner
14-08-13, 22:52
bro

like you I have been calling for a recovery in US since end 2011 ...from what I saw when I lived there ...

I also believe in 3D printing ... its not new ... but took so long to come to Singapore ...

which aspect of 3d printing do u invest in ?




This is long term, if you guys have patience....

No pow hor... 3d printing was a sure thing... This one is longgggggg.....

4G (lte) will ultimately take over from 3G.

Why??? New technology and most phone now come with 4g... The telcos will want all subscribers to go 4g to make only from download (data). Voice is dying... Because with broadband, now you can do talk time/ skype, etc... Without using talk time... So how in the hell will telcos make money... With data... With faster speed, you will use more data and that is ultimately where they going to get revenue stream....

So look into 4g tower leasing companies or companies that sell 4g equipments to the telcos...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tower-companies-benefit-4g-lte-155500793.html

Do your own due diligence.... If you believe in 4g... HAHAHAHAHAHA

:cheers4:

chestnut
14-08-13, 22:58
bro

like you I have been calling for a recovery in US since end 2011 ...from what I saw when I lived there ...

I also believe in 3D printing ... its not new ... but took so long to come to Singapore ...

which aspect of 3d printing do u invest in ?

Stratasys - bot 60, today 100. Hahahaha
DDD... This 1 bot and sold before they did stock split... Then entered again when dropped... Hahahaha

Actually there are many around like Autodesk, etc...

Stratasys bought Makerbot and enter consumer market...

Look at 4g/lte bro....

See if u like it and the story...

:cheers4:

star
14-08-13, 23:03
Hi chestnut, 3d printing companies now PE ratio is above 100! Is it a bit too high? People buying are expecting 100 times price to earning ratio.
I also believe in 3d printing. If every home able to buy a 3d printer we can print toys, hp covers, models etc it will be fun. But production cost need to keep low for printer and materials use.

proud owner
14-08-13, 23:06
Hi chestnut, 3d printing companies now PE ratio is above 100! Is it a bit too high? People buying are expecting 100 times price to earning ratio.
I also believe in 3d printing. If every home able to buy a 3d printer we can print toys, hp covers, models etc it will be fun. But production cost need to keep low for printer and materials use.


believe it bro ...

I have seen a gun being printed ... a chair , a table ... live size not those masak type ...

proud owner
14-08-13, 23:07
what about 3DSystem ?

I believe its the biggest 3D printer manufacturer now ...





Stratasys - bot 60, today 100. Hahahaha
DDD... This 1 bot and sold before they did stock split... Then entered again when dropped... Hahahaha

Actually there are many around like Autodesk, etc...

Stratasys bought Makerbot and enter consumer market...

Look at 4g/lte bro....

See if u like it and the story...

:cheers4:

chestnut
14-08-13, 23:08
Hi chestnut, 3d printing companies now PE ratio is above 100! Is it a bit too high? People buying are expecting 100 times price to earning ratio.
I also believe in 3d printing. If every home able to buy a 3d printer we can print toys, hp covers, models etc it will be fun. But production cost need to keep low for printer and materials use.

If you look at the stats, it is not worth to buy.... Sorry... It is about going in early leh.... If you ask me, I think not worth anymore... But if it explodes, than how??? I have no idea... Now... But if u ask me if I were not in and if I would go in now. The answer is no for me....

:scared-3: :scared-3:

I will be keeping some incase it explodes... But don't follow me on this case... Because I already made mney hor... So balance is profit....

chestnut
14-08-13, 23:14
what about 3DSystem ?

I believe its the biggest 3D printer manufacturer now ...

I also bot 3d system... The 2 major is 3d system and Stratasys... 3d system does consumer. Stratasys does high end... That's why they bot Makerbot. Makerbot was a big hit at last CES show in Vegas.

Check out Xone
http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=XONE

Look at the rally after it IPOed....

3centsworth
14-08-13, 23:15
Current US market is likely to trade sideways due to lack of catalysts. It has gone up significantly over the last 2 years. It is now entering into a late bull run and its legs are feeling a bit tired.

Expect gyration around +/_ 3 to 5 % until Sep to Oct. The strategy is short term trading if you want to continue to play in the market. Otherwise, it is best to preserve your capital until a breakout happens in Sep or Oct. watch out for news of US job numbers that will signal if QE will taper down.

chestnut
14-08-13, 23:16
believe it bro ...

I have seen a gun being printed ... a chair , a table ... live size not those masak type ...

Bro, they printed an Aston Martin in James bond skyFall

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2232252/The-secret-James-Bonds-priceless-Aston-Martin-DB-5-stunts-3D-printed-models-used-Skyfalls-dangerous-scenes.html

proud owner
14-08-13, 23:19
Bro, they printed an Aston Martin in James bond skyFall

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2232252/The-secret-James-Bonds-priceless-Aston-Martin-DB-5-stunts-3D-printed-models-used-Skyfalls-dangerous-scenes.html

yes I know that one


but to see a gun being printed and can fire a bullet ... its scary ...

chestnut
14-08-13, 23:20
Current US market is likely to trade sideways due to lack of catalysts. It has gone up significantly over the last 2 years. It is now entering into a late bull run and its legs are feeling a bit tired.

Expect gyration around +/_ 3 to 5 % until Sep to Oct. The strategy is short term trading if you want to continue to play in the market. Otherwise, it is best to preserve your capital until a breakout happens in Sep or Oct. watch out for news of US job numbers that will signal if QE will taper down.

What goes up, must come down...

Must cash out some profit lar...

That's life... HAHAHAHAHAHA

:cheers4:

chestnut
14-08-13, 23:27
yes I know that one


but to see a gun being printed and can fire a bullet ... its scary ...

Bro, check this out

http://www.gizmag.com/kamermaker-3d-printed-house/26752/

mcmlxxvi
15-08-13, 07:29
Good evening cbsh & chestnut

Thanks so much for yr sharing. Both yr advice come very aptly.

I hv been feeling vexed lately, $$ sitting there doing nothing...rather not sure what to do. Buy shares also lose money sianz.

Other than waiting, I don't know what to do....rally feel like buying and pay ABSD cos now need more breathing space, otherwise spouse always get upset and complain not enough space.

Do bro here think renting is a good option? But if i rent for $4k a month, 2 years, $100k... Versus if I buy pty $2.5m and pay 10% ABSD...so renting is better ?? I m so lost..l:doh:

A lot of people will kill to have your 200k problem... to be able to just throw it away like that to rental or ABSD, not many can do it.

mcmlxxvi
15-08-13, 07:36
I think some of the novice investors who do not know what to buy . Then I think unit trust is a better alternative to invest like Schroder Asian growth fund, Aberdeen pacific equity & 1st state dividend fund.

Corporate Bond can be a alternative income without leveraging. But not many want or dare to venture into it.

rdgs,
Vic

Bond X Uncle Vic,

Corp bonds like those genting etc, how much risk are they? If we go with companies in business for decades, lesser risk of folding right?

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From bonds.com.sg:

Corporate bonds

Companies can issue their own bonds and other debt securities, which can be bought and sold on the Singapore Exchange (SGX).

How are corporate bonds different from government bonds?

Corporate bonds have different investment considerations compared with government bonds. Some of the key differences are:

-Risk of a corporate issuer is not the same as the AAA rated Singapore government bond. Check the issuer's credit rating for the bond you are buying, but remember that rating agencies can get it wrong too.

-Corporate bonds may be secured over the issuer's assets (giving them priority in an insolvency situation), or completely unsecured, or somewhere in between (for example, unsecured senior bonds which rank ahead of unsecured creditors but behind secured lenders such as the company's bank). This means that even if the issuer is financially sound or highly rated generally, the specific bond may be riskier because of its repayment ranking compared with other debt.

-Corporate bonds may be redeemable early at the company's option, which affects the term of your investment profile. Likewise, the issuer may have an option to extend the maturity date. Special provisions might apply - for example, the interest rate may change or be reset.

-Corporate bonds can have a floating (or variable) interest rate which is set at a specific margin over a market interest rate (for example, bank bill rates), instead of the fixed coupon which is typical for a government bond.

These features can make corporate bonds more difficult to value compared with government bonds. On the plus side, a corporate bond will typically pay a higher coupon (yield) than a Singapore government bond because of the higher risks involved, and so may still be a suitable investment for investors who understand those risks.
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So many caveats... really must do homework to pick the right bond.

I'll try to be smart here - ask Uncle Vic the bond expert. Which ones have the lowest risks and best track record?

cbsh38584
15-08-13, 11:34
Bond X Uncle Vic,

Corp bonds like those genting etc, how much risk are they? If we go with companies in business for decades, lesser risk of folding right?

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From bonds.com.sg:

Corporate bonds

Companies can issue their own bonds and other debt securities, which can be bought and sold on the Singapore Exchange (SGX).

How are corporate bonds different from government bonds?

Corporate bonds have different investment considerations compared with government bonds. Some of the key differences are:

-Risk of a corporate issuer is not the same as the AAA rated Singapore government bond. Check the issuer's credit rating for the bond you are buying, but remember that rating agencies can get it wrong too.

-Corporate bonds may be secured over the issuer's assets (giving them priority in an insolvency situation), or completely unsecured, or somewhere in between (for example, unsecured senior bonds which rank ahead of unsecured creditors but behind secured lenders such as the company's bank). This means that even if the issuer is financially sound or highly rated generally, the specific bond may be riskier because of its repayment ranking compared with other debt.

-Corporate bonds may be redeemable early at the company's option, which affects the term of your investment profile. Likewise, the issuer may have an option to extend the maturity date. Special provisions might apply - for example, the interest rate may change or be reset.

-Corporate bonds can have a floating (or variable) interest rate which is set at a specific margin over a market interest rate (for example, bank bill rates), instead of the fixed coupon which is typical for a government bond.

These features can make corporate bonds more difficult to value compared with government bonds. On the plus side, a corporate bond will typically pay a higher coupon (yield) than a Singapore government bond because of the higher risks involved, and so may still be a suitable investment for investors who understand those risks.
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So many caveats... really must do homework to pick the right bond.

I'll try to be smart here - ask Uncle Vic the bond expert. Which ones have the lowest risks and best track record?

Property is good for long term investment provided PAP is still around for the next 15 to 20 yrs. So I don't put everything into one basket that is PROPERTY. I do hv 2 property. Looking to add is another one more in 2015/16 after making money in Bond (be in local or oversea). Bond can be part of your portfolio. Even universal life plan (with return) can also be part of your portfolio .

When I start to invest in Bond in 2010. I start with SG blue chip like DBS ,Capland, Capital commercial trust , OUE etc. I feel safe with all this blue chip name. I slowly move another non blue chip name like Petra food, banyan tree . Then I move into more oversea high risk HY bond which have done exceptionally well. Most are straight bond. I am a risk taker. I borrow a lot to get a better return in my bond holdings. I know the risk & I am prepare for it.

rdgs,
Vic

mcmlxxvi
15-08-13, 12:39
Property is good for long term investment provided PAP is still around for the next 15 to 20 yrs. So I don't put everything into one basket that is PROPERTY. I do hv 2 property. Looking to add is another one more in 2015/16 after making money in Bond (be in local or oversea). Bond can be part of your portfolio. Even universal life plan (with return) can also be part of your portfolio .

When I start to invest in Bond in 2010. I start with SG blue chip like DBS ,Capland, Capital commercial trust , OUE etc. I feel safe with all this blue chip name. I slowly move another non blue chip name like Petra food, banyan tree . Then I move into more oversea high risk HY bond which have done exceptionally well. Most are straight bond. I am a risk taker. I borrow a lot to get a better return in my bond holdings. I know the risk & I am prepare for it.

rdgs,
Vic

Thanks Uncle Vic for sharing... totally logical approach...

Like beginner dunno how to ride also start with bicycle before graduating on to Harley...