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If we are not working.. we could actually be somewhere else living a better quality of living.. Of course , some may disagreed. But I'm one of those who feels the pastures is greener over Australia, Taiwan. Malaysia is still too unsafe for me i feel. But penang sounds nice rite.. Laguna's holiday home.
You could retain your citizenship if you want.. But PRs in Australia are also not bad for a start before you consider converting within the 5yr grace period.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/jye-yee-alvin-tan/8-reasons-that-living-in-malaysia-beats-living-in-singapore/10150649714052703
by the way, this guy is the sex scandal law scholar
I see his naked photo. quite delectable, I must confess. hmmmm rainbow cap...
anyone got consider Thailand or Bali for retirement?
If we are not working.. we could actually be somewhere else living a better quality of living.. Of course , some may disagreed. But I'm one of those who feels the pastures is greener over Australia, Taiwan. Malaysia is still too unsafe for me i feel. But penang sounds nice rite.. Laguna's holiday home.
You could retain your citizenship if you want.. But PRs in Australia are also not bad for a start before you consider converting within the 5yr grace period.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/jye-yee-alvin-tan/8-reasons-that-living-in-malaysia-beats-living-in-singapore/10150649714052703
by the way, this guy is the sex scandal law scholar
my plan is to earn enough and retire in new zealand by 40.. do some small organic farming biz to export to asia to cover basic living expenses... :ashamed1:
if i have your level of wealth now, i would have scooted to NZ now liao. :D
Allthepies
17-10-12, 16:53
If u like nature, farming, Australia is really good :D :D
But penang sounds nice rite.. Laguna's holiday home.
haha, me again
I will buy big big BMW, BM, and Volvo, not COE, no tax
the price of a big big BMW is only the cost of our COE here..
NZ has earthquake.
my plan is to earn enough and retire in new zealand by 40.. do some small organic farming biz to export to asia to cover basic living expenses... :ashamed1:
if i have your level of wealth now, i would have scooted to NZ now liao. :D
Australia cost living is too high compared to Singapore. A 500ml bottle of coke cost A$2.50. :2cents:
If u like nature, farming, Australia is really good :D :D
my plan is to earn enough and retire in new zealand by 40.. do some small organic farming biz to export to asia to cover basic living expenses... :ashamed1:
if i have your level of wealth now, i would have scooted to NZ now liao. :D
I also thought of NZ too but not easy to migrate to there leh :rolleyes: .
There are more sheeps than people in NZ.
I also thought of NZ too but not easy to migrate to there leh :rolleyes: .
NZ, Australia,
I die lah! how to live without local food
no nite life, no good shopping,
fly to Europe, US is so far....
NZ has earthquake.
earthquake at christchurch ?? maybe go further south to Queenlands safer ?
I also thought of NZ too but not easy to migrate to there leh :rolleyes: .
i believe they need more of skilled worker...eg plumber, mechanics, electrician etc... professional eg engineers, accountants, etc not easily to gain access..
those are the work, the ppl there don want to do....
I also thought of NZ too but not easy to migrate to there leh :rolleyes: .
actually if u are working age and is a skilled worker/investor, quite easy to migrate. alot of handy tips in the website below (and a good forum with useful info)
http://www.newzealandnow.govt.nz/working-in-nz/practical-info-visas/resident-visas
http://www.expatforum.com/expats/new-zealand-expat-forum-expats-living-new-zealand/
have fun!
NZ has earthquake.
I considered both Canada and NZ.. but prefer NZ cos at least still APAC.. else from canada fly back really is :banghead: ..
earthquake boh bian. just need to go to less prone zones and actively tune up for seismic updates.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquakes_in_New_Zealand)
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earthquakes since European settlement. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquakes_in_New_Zealand)
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when i do migrate, i will be spending the bulk of my retirement funds to acquire farmland and construct new earthquake resistant housing that can better mitigate the effects from earthquakes.. need to go japan see see look look and learn how they do it.
anyway still got 10 yrs down the road... :cool: :cool:
i believe they need more of skilled worker...eg plumber, mechanics, electrician etc... professional eg engineers, accountants, etc not easily to gain access..
those are the work, the ppl there don want to do....
they have a scoring system.. juz know where u and your spouse falls under and then work towards getting at least 180pts...
http://www.workpermit.com/new_zealand/point_system/points_system.htm
http://www.workpermit.com/new_zealand/nz_calculator.htm
Had been staying in UK for about 8 years. We will always be 2nd class in those society unless we have British spouse.
I considered both Canada and NZ.. but prefer NZ cos at least still APAC.. else from canada fly back really is :banghead: ..
earthquake boh bian. just need to go to less prone zones and actively tune up for seismic updates.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquakes_in_New_Zealand)
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquakes_in_New_Zealand)
when i do migrate, i will be spending the bulk of my retirement funds to acquire farmland and construct new earthquake resistant housing that can better mitigate the effects from earthquakes.. need to go japan see see look look and learn how they do it.
anyway still got 10 yrs down the road... :cool: :cool:
Had been staying in UK for about 8 years. We will always be 2nd class in those society unless we have British spouse.
Renting a car in Australia, being treated worst than a second class
I considered both Canada and NZ.. but prefer NZ cos at least still APAC.. else from canada fly back really is :banghead: ..
U need to think of a second home for winter
buttercarp
17-10-12, 18:40
There are more sheeps than people in NZ.
Yup, in NZ more sheep than friendship.
A professor once said that to me.
Dunno whether you heard it from the same person?
can retire in punggol what there they going to call it eco town...:doh:
Yup, in NZ more sheep than friendship.
A professor once said that to me.
Dunno whether you heard it from the same person?
in africa i heard people are friendly but i rather be with sheep in nz...:D
I see his naked photo. quite delectable, I must confess. hmmmm rainbow cap...
bro honestly DO you know this guy...this type of case falls under your department....:D:D:D:D
Bkk did crossed my mind, nice food, friendly locals, shopping & able to go massagi everyday. Did some calculations & realised be a tenant is a wiser choice. Can beach hop every month. When colour shirts start burning rubber, just book a flight & leave.
From TKL:
"My friend, who is a Malaysian PR, brought me to see a few condos in Iskandar. Most of them are being sold at M$500 (S$200) psf, are freehold in tenure and come with full facilities. The roads are not congested, so driving is a pleasure. The residents said that Iskandar is relative safe, in spite of the reports in Singapore media.
We visited Danga Bay, Horizon Hills, Nusajaya, Medini, :Ledang Heights, Puteri Harbor and Gelang Patah.
Most of the 2+1 apartments have an area of 1,000 sf and sells for M$500,000 or S$200,000. This is a 2 bedroom apartment with a small room (+1) that is used as a study.
I am impressed with the 3+1 apartment in Danga Bay, which is on the outskirt of Johor Bahru and is 10 mins drive from the causeway. The size is 1,600 sf and it sells for S$400,000. It has 2 keys. One key leads to a 500 sf studio apartment. The other key leads to a 2+1 apartment of 1,100 sf. Both units are inter-connected. The owner can live in 1 unit and rent out the other unit or the grandparents can stay in the adjoining studio unit.
I met a Singaporean at the showroom of the Danga Bay condo. He works as a property agent in Singapore but has bought a unit at Danga Bay. He said that the LRT will connect Danga Bay to the MRT station in Johor Bahru.
If you find a 99 year condos selling for $1,200 sf in the outskirts of Singapore to be too expensive, a property at Iskandar may be an attractive option, especially if your work requires you to travel often outside of Singapore"
buttercarp
17-10-12, 20:07
What or who is TKL?
Tan Kin Lian?
I met a Singaporean at the showroom of the Danga Bay condo. He works as a property agent in Singapore but has bought a unit at Danga Bay. He said that the LRT will connect Danga Bay to the MRT station in Johor Bahru.
If you find a 99 year condos selling for $1,200 sf in the outskirts of Singapore to be too expensive, a property at Iskandar may be an attractive option, especially if your work requires you to travel often outside of Singapore"
Distance from Danga bay to city area in JB can be far. However, i prefer those at iskandar as it comes with land and fresh air. if u are gonna stay in JB might as well buy a landed with some land and pool for yourself...
bro honestly DO you know this guy...this type of case falls under your department....:D:D:D:D
Wa, 2nd time. Haha
MyPropertyAgent
17-10-12, 21:25
:beats-me-man:
Australia cost living is too high compared to Singapore. A 500ml bottle of coke cost A$2.50. :2cents:
I studied in melb for a year. Certain parts of Australia is nice to retire in. Melb , sydney & Queensland is nice. Tasmania is still still racist as the Asian population there is very small. The cost is living is very high. The cars and houses are cheap though. After all all ur friends are still in SG, which is one of the reasons why I came back to spore to work.
I just bought a 1 bedder at sydney harold park. Its a decent 50m2 size. Its near an equivalent of LRT, so don't really need a car. Maybe one day I might use it as a retirement house.
in africa i heard people are friendly but i rather be with sheep in nz...:D
They can be very friendly in the day and preach about god, when night come , they can murder u ..
They can be very friendly in the day and preach about god, when night come , they can murder u ..
thats why i rather be with the sheep...:D
What or who is TKL?
Tan Kin Lian?
ya ya.. cut and paste from a facebook.
I just bought a 1 bedder at sydney harold park. Its a decent 50m2 size. Its near an equivalent of LRT, so don't really need a car. Maybe one day I might use it as a retirement house.
Took financing from an australian bank? Did you go over and purchase or is it from one of the roadshows in singapore?
TKL got lots of friends into property hor.. recently also complain to URA or what on showflat sales tactics. something to do with cheque collection method
what do u think of this? price of a 3rm hdb
st701 click here (http://www.stproperty.sg/overseas-property-for-sale/malaysia/johor/landed/leisure-farm-resort/953898)
Had been staying in UK for about 8 years. We will always be 2nd class in those society unless we have British spouse.
tat i agree.. always 2nd class citizen but okay lar.. new zealand is big and spacious with less than 5mil population. plus stay in my own little farm and cosy up with the chinese community there loh. stay out of trouble can liao.. :p
U need to think of a second home for winter
tat's why i chose NZ over Canada.. can always fly back to SG during wintry periods. :cheers6:
tat's why i chose NZ over Canada.. can always fly back to SG during wintry periods. :cheers6:
me too. planning for NZ.
got frens there already
Would the earthquake factor be an issue?
Would the earthquake factor be an issue?
earthquake is usually at christchurch area. so stay in auckland but buy a farm somewhere else and treat it as a second home
me too. planning for NZ.
got frens there already
keep in touch and cya there in 10 yrs time bro. :cheers5:
what do u think of this? price of a 3rm hdb
st701 click here (http://www.stproperty.sg/overseas-property-for-sale/malaysia/johor/landed/leisure-farm-resort/953898)
WTF??????????
What's up with the staircase railing?
WTF??????????
What's up with the staircase railing?
staircase jiu hu style ~
http://www.stproperty.sg/media/listings/8/9/8/3/leisure_farm_resort_20121005125325_L.jpg
Classic man!
me too. planning for NZ.
got frens there already
I know some people from my profession who went to NZ and came back after a while. Australia too. The life there is rather quiet. You will experience some "isolation" after the initial excitement of starting out in a new place. I myself used to live and work in the UK for many years (London-based) but returned to Singapore (even though I have PR there and no shortage of job openings). The grass always seems greener on the other side.....but at the end of the day, the family roots are still in SG.
I know some people from my profession who went to NZ and came back after a while. Australia too. The life there is rather quiet. You will experience some "isolation" after the initial excitement of starting out in a new place. I myself used to live and work in the UK for many years (London-based) but returned to Singapore (even though I have PR there and no shortage of job openings). The grass always seems greener on the other side.....but at the end of the day, the family roots are still in SG.
may i know what profession are you in ? chiaberry
my neighbour migrated to Oz and now back in SG. Only can find job in SG...but if migrate overseas then must live like retiring mode...don't knw can take it or not
Anyone knows why the chinese name for NZ changed from 纽西兰 to 新西兰?
my neighbour migrated to Oz and now back in SG. Only can find job in SG...but if migrate overseas then must live like retiring mode...don't knw can take it or not
If I migrate to Oz, my job there will be significantly easier than the current job in SG. Will be like semi-retirement for me. Dunno if I would be bored or not. But I think there are some racist undertones in Oz still....In the UK, I still felt that at the top of my profession, it was still something of an "old boy's club"....the old boys referring to male Caucasians.
My job is in healthcare.
you are a male surgeon???
or naturalist (sp?)
since you nick chia berries
Asian investors question Chris Cook's Albany Heights project
Progress on an intensive housing development in Albany on Auckland's North Shore appears to have stalled, with offshore investors saying they are in the dark about what is happening.
The 124-unit Albany Heights Villas project is owned by Chris Cook's Hunter Gills Road Ltd.
NBR ONLINE understands more than 100 investors from Asia bought into stage one of the development, which offered them a 38% return on their investment for a down payment of $65,000............
http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/asian-investors-question-chris-cooks-albany-heights-project-ca-130405
Jia lat got sporeans
http://propertychat.co.nz/showthread.php?673-Albany-Heights-Villas-Project-in-Auckland
buttercarp
19-10-12, 00:23
you are a male surgeon???
I tot chiaberry is a sis?
I guess she is either a matron or a doctor, mabbe an anaesthetist.
she said old BOYS club!
he, rather
she said old BOYS club!
he, rather
Sorry misunderstanding. I meant at the top of my profession in the UK it tends to be an old boys' club. But I am not an old boy, so not in that club lor.......
Isn't it amazing? At 20+, we tot we were invincible. At 30+, we carving out our career. At 40+, we start thinking of retirement. I enjoy 40+ most. Days of dreaming.
Asian investors question Chris Cook's Albany Heights project
Progress on an intensive housing development in Albany on Auckland's North Shore appears to have stalled, with offshore investors saying they are in the dark about what is happening.
The 124-unit Albany Heights Villas project is owned by Chris Cook's Hunter Gills Road Ltd.
NBR ONLINE understands more than 100 investors from Asia bought into stage one of the development, which offered them a 38% return on their investment for a down payment of $65,000............
http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/asian-investors-question-chris-cooks-albany-heights-project-ca-130405
Jia lat got sporeans
http://propertychat.co.nz/showthread.php?673-Albany-Heights-Villas-Project-in-Auckland
company liquidated. Buy overseas property better buy those completed one. Avoid Thai as well. Anytime gov change, they can take ur property
anyone got consider Thailand or Bali for retirement?
I would not mind Phuket & Bali but I think I will be better off making regular trips there than rooting myself there for long term. 4 trips with each trip lasting 10-14 days to Phuket & Bali each year. This is my retirement dream
nav, sounds good. but then remaining part of the year? cooped up in pigeon hole and zzzzz?
We continue our online interview series on Singaporeans residing abroad. As many as 190,000 Singaporeans now work and study overseas and in this particular interview, we feature someone who has just emigrated to Wellington, New Zealand.
Transitioning (T): Thanks Philip for agreeing to answer our questionaite for an online interview for Singaporeans residing abroad. First of all, tell us abit about yourself e.g. personal particulars, educational qualification and work experience.
Philip (P): I have a Bachelor of Engineering degree from NTU and also a Diploma in IT.
I’m also MCSA 2003 and ACTA certified.
I have 14 years of combined experience in Project Management and Customer Quality Engineering support with Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) and MSI Computer (Shenzhen, China). As I have a real passion for training and development, I completed the Advanced Certificate in Training and Assessment (ACTA) course in Jul 2009 to realise my passion in this area. My last job was Associate Trainer with Eagle Infotech Consultant, conducting training in Microsoft Office programs such as Excel, Word and PowerPoint and Science Enrichment programs at Primary schools.
T: Where are you living now and why do you choose that location?
P: Currently I’m living in Wellington NZ. I chose here because I have an established network of friends and relatives in Wellington. My brother-in-law has been in Wellington for the past 6 years.
T: Did you face any adjustment problem initially when you make the move? Any regrets so far?
P: Not really, as I have visited New Zealand on 4 occasions in the last 5 years. I like the healthier work-life balance lifestyle that New Zealand can offer and also to enjoy the many great outdoor activities that New Zealand has. We are also looking to family re-unification with my wife’s brother and his family here in Wellington.
No regrets so far.
T: How is the family coping currently? Are they happy or do they want to move back to Singapore?
P: My wife is here with me. She love the lifestyle here compare to Singapore and the weather here is great. She is happy here. No plans to move back in the near future.
T: What precious lessons did you learn from living abroad? Will you do it again if given the choice?
P: You have to learn to adapt. The lifestyle here is very different from Singapore. There are no big shopping malls here. Eating out is expensive you have to learn to cook to save money. You must like nature and great outdoors to enjoy life here.
You must also learn to cope with the cold weather in Winter where the temperature can drop below 0 deg.
You will learn to slow down your pace here as the work is not as stressful as in Singapore. Here everybody goes back at 5pm.
If given a chance I’ll do it again as it’s a great place for me to retire.
T: Was it difficult to get jobs while staying abroad? Describe your job search experience and how different it is from Singapore.
P: It was tough to get jobs in the first few months I was here. The employer here are looking for your skills and how you are able to blend in to the Kiwi work culture.
Are you able to speak well and understand their accent? I have to do some volunteer work to get a feel of the Kiwi work culture here so as to gain the experience to put into my Resume.
T: Do you want to return to Singapore eventually or prefer to settle down in your new place permanently?
P: I will settle down here permanently if I can find a good job and get my PR here.
T: What are your main reasons for wanting to move overseas?
P: The main reasons are to escape the stressful lifestyle in Singapore and also to escape the hot weather.
In Singapore my wife practically works 12 hrs each day. She goes to office at 9am and get gets home after 9pm. Life is too short to be working so hard each day. Here they only work 40hrs each week. Everybody goes back at 5pm.
I move here to have a healthier work life balance and enjoy the cold weather and the great outdoors.
T: What is your advice for those Singaporean migrants who have newly move abroad?
P: You have to be mentally prepared to downgrade yourself. You may not get the kind of pay you have in Singapore.
The only reason to move abroad is to have a healthier work life balance. Money is not the factor. You have to adjust your expectations and you’ll be fine.
T: Any last words from you?
P: Patience and perseverance. You have to be patient and wait for the right opportunity to come by and persevere.
Don’t be discouraged if you cannot find job initially. Keep on trying and you will be rewarded.
You must have to courage to want to change.
End of interview and thank you.
curiosity kills cats
expectations kill the man
tat i agree.. always 2nd class citizen but okay lar.. new zealand is big and spacious with less than 5mil population. plus stay in my own little farm and cosy up with the chinese community there loh. stay out of trouble can liao.. :p
maybe we can work together for this goal..
but remember it is not easy to settle down in a new country.
and winter is one that we do not have in singapore...so must be mentally prepared..
nature, cool weather and good life-work balance is what i want for a happy life..
don't need all the world's money.. :o
Allthepies
19-11-12, 22:09
If u r happy, u will be happy anywhere. Happiness is not a place.
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