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azeoprop
04-10-12, 09:56
http://www.ecosanctuary.com.sg/

Looks like ready for launch soon.

:D

buttercarp
04-10-12, 10:12
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/11489965/for-sale-eco-sanctuary-exciting-new-condo-launch-i

Is it 99LH ?

http://cdn-sg2.pgimgs.com/images/thumb/7/e/5/e/7e5e6c26411437_1_V550.jpg

azeoprop
04-10-12, 10:20
Yeap, 99 year govt land sale site. :)

http://www.h88.com.sg/article/12+bids+for+Chestnut+Ave+site/

bakasa2002
04-10-12, 10:31
Another eco ... luckily it's in the west, else causes confusion. ;)

mastrix
04-10-12, 10:53
http://cdn-sg2.pgimgs.com/images/thumb/7/e/5/e/7e5e6c26411437_1_V550.jpg
The map by developer? Not accurate. Dairy Farm Road...lets take Petir Road as the center line. The Dairy Farm Road on the left side should be longer than the Dairy Farm Road on the right side. Far much longer! :scared-4:

buttercarp
04-10-12, 12:31
The map by developer? Not accurate. Dairy Farm Road...lets take Petir Road as the center line. The Dairy Farm Road on the left side should be longer than the Dairy Farm Road on the right side. Far much longer! :scared-4:

Thanks for pointing out.
No, not developer but the agent :doh: !

carbuncle
04-10-12, 12:42
sure 1300psf n abv for 1br

mastrix
04-10-12, 17:56
sure 1300psf n abv for 1br
I'm very happy with your statement. ;) :D

ethan80
04-10-12, 18:50
looking forward to this... :)

danntbt
04-10-12, 22:56
The map by developer? Not accurate. Dairy Farm Road...lets take Petir Road as the center line. The Dairy Farm Road on the left side should be longer than the Dairy Farm Road on the right side. Far much longer! :scared-4:
....The site according to this agent is bigger than Foresque and Tree House combined......:scared-1: :scared-1: :scared-1:

sunrise
04-10-12, 23:23
....The site according to this agent is bigger than Foresque and Tree House combined......:scared-1: :scared-1: :scared-1:

hahaha... if combine with the HDB flats behind the bushes then its bigger than TH and foresq plot area. :doh: this agent sian tow.

mastrix
04-10-12, 23:25
....The site according to this agent is bigger than Foresque and Tree House combined......:scared-1: :scared-1: :scared-1:
From the Elite....don't play play. :D

kane
04-10-12, 23:26
Interesting to see what Setia will come up with.

dtrax
04-10-12, 23:27
Interesting to see what Setia will come up with.

First bungalow in the Sky outside CCR

mastrix
04-10-12, 23:27
Interesting to see what Setia will come up with.
I'm more keen on the $$$$psf. :D :D

dtrax
04-10-12, 23:28
I'm more keen on the $$$$psf. :D :D

Elite developer will sell at Elite PSF

yjcai
04-10-12, 23:29
Hear say neighbour wing tai launch another phase but forestkill alr building high up. Isn this not a sign of cash rich? Risk can always be mitigated by cash. ITS OCR

kane
04-10-12, 23:30
Price ranges are so tight in singapore. Unlikely to be cheap and since they are the new kid in the block here. I don't think they will do a capitaland or far east premium pricing strategy.

ethan80
04-10-12, 23:56
....The site according to this agent is bigger than Foresque and Tree House combined......:scared-1: :scared-1: :scared-1:

cant be right?

http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/text/2011/pr11-154.html

18,699.4 m2 still a bit smaller than tree house and foresque plots i believe?

mastrix
05-10-12, 00:00
cant be right?

http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/text/2011/pr11-154.html

18,699.4 m2 still a bit smaller than tree house and foresque plots i believe?
Click on the property guru link...the agent..he's a Elite. Elite always right. :D

danntbt
05-10-12, 05:10
I think they lay claim to the other half of the hill....the neighborhood park as their landscape....

sunrise
05-10-12, 11:15
I think they lay claim to the other half of the hill....the neighborhood park as their landscape....

eco, TH and foresque same size of land. check this drawing.

pinkpolkadot
05-10-12, 14:08
Will this be confused with eCo in Tenah Merah?

danntbt
05-10-12, 22:39
eco, TH and foresque same size of land. check this drawing.
... I think you got too serious and missed the drift........

danntbt
15-10-12, 22:07
Eco Sanctuary
*Launching Soon*

1-bedroom ~506 sqft from $638k up (indicative price)
2-bedroom ~667 sqft from $808k up (indicative price)
2+Study ~754 sqft from $908k up (indicative price)
3-bedroom ~969 sqft from $1.18m up (indicative price)
3+Study ~1163 sqft from $1.38m up (indicative price)
4-bedroom ~1367 sqft from $1.58m up (indicative price)

danntbt
15-10-12, 22:08
Development Brief
Project Name: Eco Sanctuary
Location: Chestnut Avenue
Tenure: 99 years (wef 25 April 2012)
Land Size: 201,286 sqft
Plot Ratio: 2.1
Max GFA: 422,700.6 sqft
Est TOP: Dec 2016
Architect: ADDP Architects
No. of Block/Storey: 3 blocks x 24 storeys
No. of Units: 483 units
Units Types: 1-bedroom, 2-bedroom, 2+Study, 3-bedroom, 3+Study, 4-bedroom, Penthouse
Full condominium facilities with sky terrace
360 degree unblocked view
No bay windows
Luxurious finishes
Generous high ceiling for all units
3.4m for standard units
4.2m for patio units (ground floor units)
4.8m for penthouse units
Due to terrain, entire development is on higher ground
With additional ceiling height of 0.5m (3.4m), the development is 7/8 floors above nearby residential developments
No high roof terrace penthouse units


more infor: http://www.ecosanctuaryfloorplan.com/

danntbt
20-10-12, 21:27
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8185/8105146118_39aedcf58b_b.jpg

dtrax
31-10-12, 20:40
http://ecosanctuary1.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/Eco-Sanctuary-Site-Plan.png

dtrax
31-10-12, 20:42
1 BD - 506sqft $6xxK
2 BD - 700sqft $7xxK
2 BD+S - 775sqft $8xxK
3 BD - 980sqft $1.xxM
3 BD+S - 1163sqft $1.2xM
4 BD - 1367sqft $1.5xM

http://ecosanctuary1.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/Eco-Sanctuary-1-BD.png

http://ecosanctuary1.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/Eco-Sanctuary-2BD.png

http://ecosanctuary1.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/Eco-Sanctuary-2BD+S.png

http://ecosanctuary1.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/Eco-Sanctuary-3BD.png

http://ecosanctuary1.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/Eco-Sanctuary-4BD.png

sunrise
31-10-12, 21:30
why they designed the aircon ledge next to the living balcony? huh..

Night
31-10-12, 21:51
Eco Sanctuary
*Launching Soon*

1-bedroom ~506 sqft from $638k up (indicative price)
2-bedroom ~667 sqft from $808k up (indicative price)
2+Study ~754 sqft from $908k up (indicative price)
3-bedroom ~969 sqft from $1.18m up (indicative price)
3+Study ~1163 sqft from $1.38m up (indicative price)
4-bedroom ~1367 sqft from $1.58m up (indicative price)

Interesting. how many storey is this development? Will the pricing be the same for all levels?

The 3br pricing and layout is very similiar to one of just new condo up north.

sunrise
31-10-12, 21:51
why they designed the aircon ledge next to the living balcony? huh..

only 4 bedroom have yard. how about the rest?

sunrise
31-10-12, 21:55
Interesting. how many storey is this development? Will the pricing be the same for all levels?

The 3br pricing and layout is very similiar to one of just new condo up north.

3 blocks of 24 storey towers.

Night
31-10-12, 21:59
3 blocks of 24 storey towers.

Thanks, i see the word DB in some of the plans, what does it stand for? Also some of the kitchen have a round round drawing with a small x inside? What's that?

sunrise
31-10-12, 22:08
Thanks, i see the word DB in some of the plans, what does it stand for? Also some of the kitchen have a round round drawing with a small x inside? What's that?

DB could be the circuit breaker, the round drawing must be the rubbish chute.

danntbt
31-10-12, 22:25
DB could be the circuit breaker, the round drawing must be the rubbish chute.
...here goes the chute issue again...now its in the kitchen cum living room for the smaller units!!! Wonder what the price would be like for the upper floors...

Night
31-10-12, 22:28
DB could be the circuit breaker, the round drawing must be the rubbish chute.

Nice, I like the placing of the rubbish chute. I realise the masterbedroom bathroom has 2 doors, one into the balcony as well, way cool.

Night
31-10-12, 22:30
...here goes the chute issue again...now its in the kitchen cum living room for the smaller units!!! Wonder what the price would be like for the upper floors...

Bro, you confuse me, at first I thought the worse case scenario was for the chute to be hidden inside the cabinet, how come this design also an issue?

With 24 storeys, highest floor sure high price?

danntbt
31-10-12, 22:41
Bro, you confuse me, at first I thought the worse case scenario was for the chute to be hidden inside the cabinet, how come this design also an issue?

With 24 storeys, highest floor sure high price?


haha, this time its like if neighbors eat durian, will have nice aroma in the living room for the smaller unit.

sunrise
31-10-12, 22:42
sorry: I mistaken the white ledge. its not an aircon ledge and its external. maybe for building deco purposes.

sunrise
31-10-12, 22:45
haha, this time its like if neighbors eat durian, will have nice aroma in the living room for the smaller unit.

the 4 bedroom looks hugh.

Night
31-10-12, 22:45
haha, this time its like if neighbors eat durian, will have nice aroma in the living room for the smaller unit.

haha ok i get what you mean. I thought more convenient no need to have dustbin in the house, just keep the chute open, can do 3 pt shot from the living room.

Anyway if this pricing is confirm, TH and FR sure huat!!!

danntbt
01-11-12, 09:23
haha ok i get what you mean. I thought more convenient no need to have dustbin in the house, just keep the chute open, can do 3 pt shot from the living room.

Anyway if this pricing is confirm, TH and FR sure huat!!!
...it depends on whether its a sell-out,l FR still holding on to their last Prime block...WT is playing poker with Setia....see who show hand first.

Night
01-11-12, 09:53
...it depends on whether its a sell-out,l FR still holding on to their last Prime block...WT is playing poker with Setia....see who show hand first.

Seem like a smart move by FR to ride on the wave for the prime block. But it make no sense to give 100k discount for a unit in block 103 I read somewhere. Looks like diary farm area is getting hot.

Nighttrain
01-11-12, 09:56
Seem like a smart move by FR to ride on the wave for the prime block. But it make no sense to give 100k discount for a unit in block 103 I read somewhere. Looks like diary farm area is getting hot.
Bro u make me heart pain again:banghead:

Wild Falcon
01-11-12, 10:02
3BR layout better than 4BR. I really hate the 4BR "corridor type" layout. Walk into the house and then walk hoizontally in one long coriddor. 3BR at least look like a house and squarish with some depth.


1 BD - 506sqft $6xxK
2 BD - 700sqft $7xxK
2 BD+S - 775sqft $8xxK
3 BD - 980sqft $1.xxM
3 BD+S - 1163sqft $1.2xM
4 BD - 1367sqft $1.5xM

http://ecosanctuary1.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/Eco-Sanctuary-1-BD.png

http://ecosanctuary1.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/Eco-Sanctuary-2BD.png

http://ecosanctuary1.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/Eco-Sanctuary-2BD+S.png

http://ecosanctuary1.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/Eco-Sanctuary-3BD.png

http://ecosanctuary1.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/Eco-Sanctuary-4BD.png

mastrix
01-11-12, 10:07
This project really have a BIG chute! :scared-4:

Night
01-11-12, 10:28
Bro u make me heart pain again:banghead:


Bro, most impt you are happy, money can always make back one.

danntbt
01-11-12, 10:29
This project really have a BIG chute! :scared-4:
..yup the cover is as wide as the kitchen yard door according to the layout plan.....

Nighttrain
01-11-12, 11:25
Bro, most impt you are happy, money can always make back one.
Went to show room wanted to buy blk 103 at may.. They say not 4 sale but sept price drip so low..confirm pain.. Need 3 year to save $120k lay

danntbt
10-11-12, 20:26
SHOW ROOm almost ready for the great sales....

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8350/8171903670_01ef3f070f_b.jpg

danntbt
10-11-12, 20:53
....uploaded the wrong file......colours in the one above a bit weird...
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8350/8171903670_c355f2810d_b.jpg

Pikachu1245
11-11-12, 08:47
Seem like a smart move by FR to ride on the wave for the prime block. But it make no sense to give 100k discount for a unit in block 103 I read somewhere. Looks like diary farm area is getting hot.

Sales of PCs at Petir road does not seem as 'hot' as Yishun 'SKIES Miltonia-which is already 75% sold in one month ONLY-WOW unbelieveable and great . Thanks to up and coming YISHUN with Yishun Hub/ Seletar Air Hub/potential NS12/B1&B2 Buildings at Gambas Ave & Yishun/TSL/NSE).

Perhaps the view at Petir Road, though with many greenery, but still lacks large quantity of reservoir water(symbolises money)?:2cents:

mastrix
11-11-12, 11:29
Sales of PCs at Petir road does not seem as 'hot' as Yishun 'SKIES Miltonia-which is already 75% sold in one month ONLY-WOW unbelieveable and great . Thanks to up and coming YISHUN with Yishun Hub/ Seletar Air Hub/potential NS12/B1&B2 Buildings at Gambas Ave & Yishun/TSL/NSE).

Perhaps the view at Petir Road, though with many greenery, but still lacks large quantity of reservoir water(symbolises money)?:2cents:
Wow...SM already sold 75% in one month! Tree House was sold out within three weeks of launch. Wow Wow Wow. :D

jacelynchia
11-11-12, 12:15
Wow...SM already sold 75% in one month! Tree House was sold out within three weeks of launch. Wow Wow Wow. :D


Can't compare skies in terms of quantity because the price gap is different with tree house, buying at different timings also, 75% sales at this time is safe.

I feel It will be Hard for Eco to sell but I am excited to see what they can offer in terms of the architecture and furnishings.
Competition at this area very tough, super overcrowded and on going nearby projects may be priced cheaper but will consider 1 or 2 bedder if the project has a unique selling point and is in my budget!

mastrix
11-11-12, 12:20
Can't compare skies in terms of quantity because the price gap is different with tree house, buying at different timings also, 75% sales at this time is safe.

I feel It will be Hard for Eco to sell but I am excited to see what they can offer in terms of the architecture and furnishings.
Competition at this area very tough, super overcrowded and nearby projects may be priced cheaper but will consider 1 or 2 bedder if the project has a unique selling point and is in my budget!
I did my comparsion based on PikaChu comments on the surrounding amenities and its environment. :) He never talk about timing and prices.

Anyway, me also love SM...love those high units facing OCC. :)

jacelynchia
11-11-12, 12:28
I did my comparsion based on PikaChu comments on the surrounding amenities and its environment. :) He never talk about timing and prices.

Anyway, me also love SM...love those high units facing OCC. :)


He made his point too,given skies location and pricing, 75% in a month is very good indeed!

Did you invest in MR? haha

Anyone feel that Eco psf will be record high for that area?

mastrix
11-11-12, 12:38
He made his point too,given skies location and pricing, 75% in a month is very good indeed!

Did you invest in MR? haha

Anyone feel that Eco psf will be record high for that area?
What is MR?

I bought OCC membership...play golf mah.

Maybe I should buy SM...so I don't need to travel so far everytime. But I worry that up & coming aero hub will make me deaf.

Whether Eco will be record high, I don't think so. Anyway, no need to be number one lah...its a nice and quiet place to stay can already. :sleep:

jacelynchia
11-11-12, 12:40
What is MR?

I bought OCC membership...play golf mah.

Maybe I should buy SM...so I don't need to travel so far everytime. But I worry that up & coming aero hub will make me deaf.

Whether Eco will be record high, I don't think so. Anyway, no need to be number one lah...its a nice and quiet place to stay can already. :sleep:

Oh hello.
Member there as well!

Keep the membership, when miltonia area blossom, the membership price will keep soaring, I am planning to change to warren country club.

A lot here are hoping that eco price will push their property, this of course is crucial.

mastrix
11-11-12, 12:50
Oh hello.
Member there as well!

Keep the membership, when miltonia area blossom, the membership price will keep soaring, I am planning to change to warren country club.

A lot here are hoping that eco price will push their property, this of course is crucial.
:cheers4: of cuz...the more $ the merrier!

danntbt
11-11-12, 13:27
ECO probably going to be hot judging by the quantum for 1 bedder, larger units will be a challenge, seems like threshold is around 1.3M for most developments, regardless of actual sizes.

Certain developments may experience high take-up rate at the beginning due to the lower quantum units, but its is a challenge to move the rest of the higher quantum units.

Foresque marketing strategy works for it as it released in batches, its median price has increased over the last year.

Hillview Peak is another development to look out for in terms of pricing, as with Hillier, there will probably be more foreign interest due to its proximity to MRT and amenities like Railway Mall and HillV2.

There after the Development next to Diary Farm with more accessible distance to Hillview MRT station.

At the end of the day, when the DTL is ready, we shall see how the demand for this area develop. Nobody talked about the connectivity of each of the MRT lines, but, if you look at DTL, it connects all the important CBD and Marina area. The NS line is one long journey from North to Marina and is usually jam packed. You can probably get my drift if you spend some time looking at the lines and where they connects and how efficiently they connect.

View is one thing, you travel to work everyday.......noise, views, etc....these just fade of as the novelty or irritability wear off, at the end of the day its the livability of the units you purchase, which usually relates to going to work and coming home to a place with sufficient space to rest and chill....that is if your purchase eis for home stay.

For rental and capital appreciation, high quantum units may not pull in the necessary rental and selling price to offset the differences if its too great a difference.

In fact the greater the difference in purchase quantum, the mor fit favors the low quantum units.

danntbt
11-11-12, 13:38
In fact the greater the difference in purchase quantums, the more it favors the low quantum units.

iridrium
11-11-12, 14:28
....uploaded the wrong file......colours in the one above a bit weird...
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8350/8171903670_c355f2810d_b.jpg

Nicely taken photo!!!

carbuncle
11-11-12, 15:47
Watson that condo behind it? looks interesting

danntbt
11-11-12, 15:55
Watson that condo behind it? looks interesting
...the cheapest of the lot in the area....Tree house. The structure you see on the side of the building is for the vertical green to row on.

kane
11-11-12, 16:05
Some blocks at foresque will actuakly have a good pool view. Not in their development but look at Tree House's pool.

danntbt
11-11-12, 16:12
...the cheapest of the lot in the area....Tree house. The structure you see on the side of the building is for the vertical green to row on.
...I meant ......to grow on.

danntbt
11-11-12, 16:24
Some blocks at foresque will actuakly have a good pool view. Not in their development but look at Tree House's pool.
....similarly TH also got nice Sanctuary Pool-view....

Komo
11-11-12, 16:35
for a moment I thought I'm at sm thread:D

danntbt
11-11-12, 20:36
for a moment I thought I'm at sm thread:D
....some people just too kanchiong about their purchases.....

Nighttrain
11-11-12, 22:30
In fact the greater the difference in purchase quantums, the more it favors the low quantum units.
Bro.. Can post a pic to show the distance between all the condon and the pie plus the reservoir view .. Just 1 2 know where is the 2 reservoir.. Plus tree house ,fr and es face it .. It will be useful for all the new buyer.. At least they know Wat the view like can see or not.. Tree house first block confirm can see 2 reservoir right?fr blk 105 also can also see .. Wat about the rest? Today went over the site . Es agent say Vvip view at 17/11/12

danntbt
11-11-12, 22:55
Bro.. Can post a pic to show the distance between all the condon and the pie plus the reservoir view .. Just 1 2 know where is the 2 reservoir.. Plus tree house ,fr and es face it .. It will be useful for all the new buyer.. At least they know Wat the view like can see or not.. Tree house first block confirm can see 2 reservoir right?fr blk 105 also can also see .. Wat about the rest? Today went over the site . Es agent say Vvip view at 17/11/12
Actually, ECO like the HDB flats has less buffer zone from the forested area to cut to the BKE traffic noise.....http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8341/8175467990_402a19fa2d_o.jpg

The site next to the school should get the most of the reservoir view.

danntbt
11-11-12, 23:09
...oops typo error in the light green area next to ES and HDB....I meant to say that the park area opens out to a clearing, thus less trees in this area to buffer the noise from BKE.

Nighttrain
11-11-12, 23:38
...oops typo error in the light green area next to ES and HDB....I meant to say that the park area opens out to a clearing, thus less trees in this area to buffer the noise from BKE.
I went to the 2 hdb near to the round about exit.. The noise is very loud at 20 floor.. Thanks

jacelynchia
12-11-12, 00:54
I went to the 2 hdb near to the round about exit.. The noise is very loud at 20 floor.. Thanks


:eek: For real? Loud noises at 20 floor?

danntbt
12-11-12, 05:15
I went to the 2 hdb near to the round about exit.. The noise is very loud at 20 floor.. Thanks
Like I said, the HDB there has vey thin buffer, whatever trees remained there is rather thinned, and the roads including the main Bt Panjang Road does not help, Forest is probably the best placed in terms of the buffer.....yes the noise the is real-lah, and the quietness on this end is also real-lah, don't worry.

danntbt
12-11-12, 06:48
Like I said, the HDB there has vey thin buffer, whatever trees remained there is rather thinned, and the roads including the main Bt Panjang Road does not help, Forest is probably the best placed in terms of the buffer.....yes the noise the is real-lah, and the quietness on this end is also real-lah, don't worry.
...but be warned, some would add, cannot be compared to those near the Reservoir in a land far north.

sunrise
12-11-12, 09:32
[quote=danntbt]...but be warned, some would add, cannot be compared to those near the Reservoir in a land far north.[/quote

nothing beats the aerospace.

danntbt
12-11-12, 10:52
[quote=danntbt]...but be warned, some would add, cannot be compared to those near the Reservoir in a land far north.[/quote

nothing beats the aerospace.


The Sky is the limit.......

Pikachu1245
12-11-12, 23:31
Like I said, the HDB there has vey thin buffer, whatever trees remained there is rather thinned, and the roads including the main Bt Panjang Road does not help, Forest is probably the best placed in terms of the buffer.....yes the noise the is real-lah, and the quietness on this end is also real-lah, don't worry.

If you ask noise experts, they will tell you as long as your unit at tree house or foresque or eCO Santuary can see the expressway directly, the tall trees/forest will not shield the noise from vehicles moving along expressway(BKE) that travel to your unit.

This is more so if your unit is higher than the tip of the trees. Higher level, cost more, noise buffer less or none. Sad but true.:2cents:

jacelynchia
13-11-12, 00:30
If you ask noise experts, they will tell you as long as your unit at tree house or foresque or eCO Santuary can see the expressway directly, the tall trees/forest will not shield the noise from vehicles moving along expressway(BKE) that travel to your unit.

This is more so if your unit is higher than the tip of the trees. Higher level, cost more, noise buffer less or none. Sad but true.:2cents:


Thanks for the info, so many things to consider.
The best would be pool facing and mid floor then?

danntbt
13-11-12, 07:25
Thanks for the info, so many things to consider.
The best would be pool facing and mid floor then?


...thinking of buying one more for investment? Here is a better illustration of the greeneries:


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8062/8180553960_ba5d408997_b.jpg

As you can see...FR has a better distance from BKE, but ES Block A facing NE is good too..nice green carpet in front....

Nighttrain
13-11-12, 08:18
...thinking of buying one more for investment? Here is a better illustration of the greeneries:


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8062/8180553960_ba5d408997_b.jpg

As you can see...FR has a better distance from BKE, but ES Block A facing NE is good too..nice green carpet in front....
Thanks for the photo again. This indeed can help all new es buyer to decide which block and facing should they buy. Plus we talk about noise, the 有山有水 view but still no one talk about the small little road lead into the reservoir .. Went there almost every 2 week . It fun to bring bread and throw it out of the car to feed the monkey.. Nice cooling fresh air.. For those love to jogging and mountain biker this is a good place to explore .. Fun nature to bring kids along to see small insect ..

Nighttrain
13-11-12, 08:21
...thinking of buying one more for investment? Here is a better illustration of the greeneries:


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8062/8180553960_ba5d408997_b.jpg

As you can see...FR has a better distance from BKE, but ES Block A facing NE is good too..nice green carpet in front....
Bro. Dan Wat is the white line?? Going around the forest

sunrise
13-11-12, 08:58
...thinking of buying one more for investment? Here is a better illustration of the greeneries:




http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8062/8180553960_ba5d408997_b.jpg

As you can see...FR has a better distance from BKE, but ES Block A facing NE is good too..nice green carpet in front....

you should. dairy farm will not face noise problem. not to worry they will not take away the trees becos a institute next to be build.

mastrix
13-11-12, 09:17
Living in S'pore, traffic noise is a norm, unless u stay in a jungle. But, airplane noise is Not. :beats-me-man:

sunrise
13-11-12, 09:20
you should. dairy farm will not face noise problem. not to worry they will not take away the trees becos a institute next to be build.

looks like plot 2.1 (trailer bay) is the last piece of land for condo project.
the whole stretch of land opposite foresque may build landed house.
to maintain the view and airiness of the area.

danntbt
13-11-12, 11:06
Bro. Dan Wat is the white line?? Going around the forest
I suspect the white lines are the park connectors trails.

Nighttrain
13-11-12, 11:08
I suspect the white lines are the park connectors trails.
Wow than it will be fun.. Deep in the forest

danntbt
13-11-12, 11:16
Wow than it will be fun.. Deep in the forest

The lighter green area is earmarked under URA Master Plan:

These are areas used or intended to be used mainly for sports and recreational purposes.


Unlike some other areas.....where the area tend to be cleared of all the trees and for some open recreational purpose, the area here will retain much of the trees.

danntbt
13-11-12, 11:30
Living in S'pore, traffic noise is a norm, unless u stay in a jungle. But, airplane noise is Not. :beats-me-man:


Development along main Avenues also have noise that can be worse when experiencing start and stop traffic, there is always a compromise...CCR also have lots of traffic.....but Sky-high prices......noise is also a function of proximity and orientation. The sound wave radiates from its source, and may be modified as it is blocked, weakening in distance...reputable architects would take these much into consideration......we shall see or hear when these are up, rather than speculation from laymen like us here.....to influence our thinking.

jacelynchia
13-11-12, 12:30
...thinking of buying one more for investment? Here is a better illustration of the greeneries:


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8062/8180553960_ba5d408997_b.jpg

As you can see...FR has a better distance from BKE, but ES Block A facing NE is good too..nice green carpet in front....


Will see Eco's pricing and consider.
If investing, needless to pay for high floor,will go for low floor and nice pool view.

danntbt
13-11-12, 12:41
Will see Eco's pricing and consider.
If investing, needless to pay for high floor,will go for low floor and nice pool view.
Low floor C block has nice pool in front, not main pool, so not as noisy, plus away from main road, and buffer from the forested area more effective for low floor... or consider this effacing the park, absolute privacy from other buildings.


However, smaller units are mainly in Block B, and some 1 bedder in Block C.

chueec
13-11-12, 16:17
Wow than it will be fun.. Deep in the forest

The white lines are walking trails. I have walked the trails a couple of times. You can start the walk at the path near the end of Chestnut Ave (turn right to enter the path) and complete a loop round the forested area including the PUB water treatment plant and back. One loop takes above 1.5 hours.

The reservoir views along the trails are just fantastic. One can also see Tree House and Foresque from the very straight path and open area just beside the PUB water treatment plant. It is a place worth venturing...but not after a heavy rain.

There is also a path that leads to Upper Pierce Reservoir. One can see the path from Goggle Map.

danntbt
13-11-12, 17:32
....sounds like a wonderful photo opportunity on the trail.....

KonNC
13-11-12, 20:39
Do u think there will b a price competition between FR & ES? Since both will be going for the same pool of interested buyer..

Mickang11
13-11-12, 20:55
Just received through email:47:

PRICE START AT $5XXK ONLY

TYPES
1 bedroom 506sqft - from $5XXK (Only 23 units)
2 bedrooms 667sqft from $6xxK
2 bedrooms + Study 754 sqft from $7xxK
3 bedroom 969sqft from 1.X Mil
3 Bedrooms + study 1163sqft from $1.X Mil
4 Bedrooms 1367sqft $1.3XM - 1.6M

SMS <ECO> to
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or

HOTLINE 62277220 to register as VIP

flagship74
13-11-12, 21:56
Just received through email:47:

PRICE START AT $5XXK ONLY

TYPES
1 bedroom 506sqft - from $5XXK (Only 23 units)
2 bedrooms 667sqft from $6xxK
2 bedrooms + Study 754 sqft from $7xxK
3 bedroom 969sqft from 1.X Mil
3 Bedrooms + study 1163sqft from $1.X Mil
4 Bedrooms 1367sqft $1.3XM - 1.6M

SMS <ECO> to
91187140 / 91052056

or

HOTLINE 62277220 to register as VIP

Looks like price has soften liao..:rolleyes:

mastrix
13-11-12, 22:09
Looks like price has soften liao..:rolleyes:
U can guess the XX? Wow! :scared-5:

sunrise
13-11-12, 22:10
Do u think there will b a price competition between FR & ES? Since both will be going for the same pool of interested buyer..

if both were very close in price.
many would consider the waiting time to key collection.
FR - approx 15 months to completion.
ES - may take 30 - 36 months.

secondly the mall and the water fountain is much nearer to FR. an added advantage.

mastrix
13-11-12, 22:18
if both were very close in price.
many would consider the waiting time to key collection.
FR - approx 15 months to completion.
ES - may take 30 - 36 months.

secondly the mall and the water fountain is much nearer to FR. an added advantage.
Where is the water fountain? :D

Nighttrain
13-11-12, 22:20
if both were very close in price.
many would consider the waiting time to key collection.
FR - approx 15 months to completion.
ES - may take 30 - 36 months.

secondly the mall and the water fountain is much nearer to FR. an added advantage.
Bro.. Made me heart pain :banghead: x10

sunrise
13-11-12, 22:21
Where is the water fountain? :D

should be opposite foresque near the canal.

Nighttrain
13-11-12, 22:26
should be opposite foresque near the canal.
Bro Dan got pic to show the water fountain

sunrise
13-11-12, 22:27
Bro.. Made me heart pain :banghead: x10

I don't see why you have heart pain?
you should be happy to collect your key in 15 months time.

sunrise
13-11-12, 22:27
Bro.. Made me heart pain :banghead: x10

duplicate.

mastrix
13-11-12, 22:42
should be opposite foresque near the canal.
Is it part of URA plan?

sunrise
13-11-12, 22:48
Is it part of URA plan?

is the earlier proposal to URA from chestnut and dairy farm estate residences. they request to alter the canal, roads and make a small
park, URA looking into it.

ethan80
13-11-12, 22:55
is the earlier proposal to URA from chestnut and dairy farm estate residences. they request to alter the canal, roads and make a small
park, URA looking into it.

http://www.ura.gov.sg/dc/mp2008/images/mp58-12.pdf

mastrix
13-11-12, 23:02
is the earlier proposal to URA from chestnut and dairy farm estate residences. they request to alter the canal, roads and make a small
park, URA looking into it.
Just a wish list....

sunrise
13-11-12, 23:04
http://www.ura.gov.sg/dc/mp2008/images/mp58-12.pdf

that means the park is next to the canal and the entrance is not facing the condos. a 3-5 mins walk on chestnut avenue from ES,TH & FR.

carbuncle
13-11-12, 23:08
bro chestnut name keep kena mention in this thread lol

chueec
13-11-12, 23:43
if both were very close in price.
many would consider the waiting time to key collection.
FR - approx 15 months to completion.
ES - may take 30 - 36 months.

secondly the mall and the water fountain is much nearer to FR. an added advantage.
Hi Sunrise, can elaborate more on the water fountain. Where did you get the info from? Currently, I only can see a big 'long kang'. :confused:

kane
14-11-12, 00:19
for these few plots, the better option is to go for the low floor pool views. the great view units are accompanied with highway noise.

danntbt
14-11-12, 05:11
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8340/8183368374_5ab56d2f38_b.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8060/8183368558_a743c59941_b.jpg


Looking at the upper map, I deduce there will be a water body, tapping from the canal flow? The triangular piece of land is indicated as 0sqm?

Petrol station is no longer there.....

sunrise
14-11-12, 08:18
Hi Sunrise, can elaborate more on the water fountain. Where did you get the info from? Currently, I only can see a big 'long kang'. :confused:

the big longkang is the canal. they proposed the park with built-in fountain.

ethan80
14-11-12, 12:46
Btw the plan is just recently proposed, but not approved yet. Subject to change, please take note.

sunrise
14-11-12, 21:12
building design of eco.

danntbt
14-11-12, 22:02
...could see the model from outside the show room, think they are having private preview as I saw a few people discussing over a table in there.

sunrise
14-11-12, 22:03
Btw the plan is just recently proposed, but not approved yet. Subject to change, please take note.

canal is situated on the right of this picture. short walking distance from condos.

Noexit
15-11-12, 14:19
When will this project be official launch?

danntbt
15-11-12, 15:52
When will this project be official launch?
VVIP 17 Nov...this weekend...

dtrax
15-11-12, 17:40
latest launch date 1st Dec... showroom still messy can smell glue a glue

All ground floor fully booked. 2rm stack 9,14 - all level 9 n below tio hooted riaox
4rm - ground n top flr taken

Went pass by and spoke directly to the developer, the showflat will be awe n shock warfare.. marble gaogao for u. Possible to get 2rm <700k for high flr facing treehouse.


From what I understand after speaking to developer, they will try not to have balloting for each unit as far as possible


Wanna hoot mai tu riaox, get ready checkbook n hoot. Compare to treehouse prices in 2010 about <10% increase [not non gd view units]

disclaimer: not vested there

mastrix
15-11-12, 17:53
latest launch date 1st Dec... showroom still messy can smell glue a glue

All ground floor fully booked. 2rm stack 9,14 - all level 9 n below tio hooted riaox
4rm - ground n top flr taken

Went pass by and spoke directly to the developer, the showflat will be awe n shock warfare.. marble gaogao for u. Possible to get 2rm <700k for high flr facing treehouse.


From what I understand after speaking to developer, they will try not to have balloting for each unit as far as possible


Wanna hoot mai tu riaox, get ready checkbook n hoot. Compare to treehouse prices in 2010 about <10% increase [not non gd view units]

disclaimer: not vested there
Do you know how much is the ground floor 2 bedded cost? Is a patio unit?

dtrax
15-11-12, 18:00
Do you know how much is the ground floor 2 bedded cost? Is a patio unit?
ground flr should be patio... i not vested, haha go there tcss. I abit ps ask developer show me full price list then end up no buy. But the indicative is already gd enough to get an idea of the costing. But like I said, want gd deal for new launch muz act fast. Got free shuttle bus 2yrs to MRT upon top

Nighttrain
15-11-12, 18:17
ground flr should be patio... i not vested, haha go there tcss. I abit ps ask developer show me full price list then end up no buy. But the indicative is already gd enough to get an idea of the costing. But like I said, want gd deal for new launch muz act fast. Got free shuttle bus 2yrs to MRT upon top
Wow better than fr only 1 year free

danntbt
15-11-12, 19:14
Wanna hoot mai tu riaox, get ready checkbook n hoot. Compare to treehouse prices in 2010 about <10% increase [not non gd view units]

disclaimer: not vested there


You mean its only less than 900 psf? for what size? Ground floor with patio?

mastrix
15-11-12, 19:28
2-bedded ground floor with patio cannot be so cheap. :tsk-tsk:

danntbt
15-11-12, 19:51
2-bedded ground floor with patio cannot be so cheap. :tsk-tsk:
...usually those with patio would have lower psf as they have same built in as upper floor units, and the additional open space would lower the average psf.

mastrix
15-11-12, 20:14
...usually those with patio would have lower psf as they have same built in as upper floor units, and the additional open space would lower the average psf.
usually cheaper by how much? looking for a patio leh... :D

danntbt
15-11-12, 21:08
usually cheaper by how much? looking for a patio leh... :D
...usually possibly 10%-15% lower psf, but if patio much larger than built in, quantum could adds up.....FR pato more ex becos of high 4.5m ceiling height.

flagship74
15-11-12, 21:31
Wow better than fr only 1 year free
better than TH right?:D

Pikachu1245
15-11-12, 21:51
Thanks for the info, so many things to consider.
The best would be pool facing and mid floor then?

Probably.......:rolleyes:

Pikachu1245
15-11-12, 21:56
Living in S'pore, traffic noise is a norm, unless u stay in a jungle. But, airplane noise is Not. :beats-me-man:

Jungle also got noise especially at night. In fact the noise starts when it gets dark (after 0730pm).I experience that when tracking at 'Gunung Tahan' for 8 days many years ago. When dark , all the funny noise will come out e.g. "WOO AR AR, #%&&*^&(Y()'.

Noise is harmful if it is 85db over 8 hrs.:2cents:

dtrax
15-11-12, 22:04
better than TH right?:D

oh shuttle bus i not 100% confirm sure 1 or 2yrs.. take with pinch of salt

mastrix
15-11-12, 22:10
oh shuttle bus i not 100% confirm sure 1 or 2yrs.. take with pinch of salt
It's alright. Some people just trying to find a dust to say TH is lousy. :sleep:

dtrax
15-11-12, 22:15
It's alright. Some people just trying to find a dust to say TH is lousy. :sleep:

i think both are equally gd, one is slightly more exp in exchange for higher ceiling n better reno.. i think buy for stay is okish.. at most if 1 die all die together haha. I think both are within 1km to Bk Panjang Pri schl

Nighttrain
15-11-12, 23:55
i think both are equally gd, one is slightly more exp in exchange for higher ceiling n better reno.. i think buy for stay is okish.. at most if 1 die all die together haha. I think both are within 1km to Bk Panjang Pri schl
Which one u buy?:scared-5:

chueec
16-11-12, 00:06
Jungle also got noise especially at night. In fact the noise starts when it gets dark (after 0730pm).I experience that when tracking at 'Gunung Tahan' for 8 days many years ago. When dark , all the funny noise will come out e.g. "WOO A...R AR, #%&&*^&(Y()'.

Noise is harmful if it is 85db over 8 hrs.:2cents:
...you must have gone to Gunung Tahan during the mating season, really harmful noise...:beats-me-man: ...and sleepless nights. I wonder if Zheng Hua park has such harmful noise at night so much so that the residents at TH or FR cannot sleep peacefully...:sleep:

Nighttrain
16-11-12, 00:09
...you must have gone to Gunung Tahan during the mating season, really harmful noise...:beats-me-man: ...and sleepless nights. I wonder if Zheng Hua park has such harmful noise at night so much so that the residents at TH or FR cannot sleep peacefully...:sleep:
Insect better than bike noise;) ;) ;) ;)

danntbt
16-11-12, 04:59
.....I wonder how our ancestors slept in the night when most were surrounded by greens......anyway first time I hear that a Pokemon is complaining about insect noise, they make more noise than insects.....But having spent millions of tax payers' money on the MRT, I am sure our dear Govt will ensure they are connected and integrated with bus services within the radius of the Station.......but as long as the buses do not disturb the peace of Diary farm residence.

sunrise
16-11-12, 12:47
When will this project be official launch?

launching date defers to 1st week of december.

Pikachu1245
17-11-12, 12:07
.....I wonder how our ancestors slept in the night when most were surrounded by greens......anyway first time I hear that a Pokemon is complaining about insect noise, they make more noise than insects.....But having spent millions of tax payers' money on the MRT, I am sure our dear Govt will ensure they are connected and integrated with bus services within the radius of the Station.......but as long as the buses do not disturb the peace of Diary farm residence.

Please don't get me wrong.I am not complaining about insect noise. I am stating a fact that virgin forest such as 'Gunung Tahan'(In Malaysia) is also noisy at night. The noise does not come from insect, believe it come from wild animals like all kinds of monkey,wild birds,wild boar etc. In fact can hardly hear any insect noise as these were 'masked' by the sound of larger animals.

Just wondering, since you mention insect, will there be higher risk of mosquitoes' bites (may results in malaria/dengue) for those staying near hills/forests/jungle/park :beats-me-man:

dtrax
17-11-12, 12:39
Units r bring booked at fast n furious rates lol

danntbt
17-11-12, 13:01
Please don't get me wrong.I am not complaining about insect noise. I am stating a fact that virgin forest such as 'Gunung Tahan'(In Malaysia) is also noisy at night. The noise does not come from insect, believe it come from wild animals like all kinds of monkey,wild birds,wild boar etc. In fact can hardly hear any insect noise as these were 'masked' by the sound of larger animals.

Just wondering, since you mention insect, will there be higher risk of mosquitoes' bites (may results in malaria/dengue) for those staying near hills/forests/jungle/park :beats-me-man:
??????????? one minute you complain noise, the animal noise, then dengue.....u are trying very hard....pity .....efforts with no substance.....

danntbt
17-11-12, 13:04
Units r bring booked at fast n furious rates lol
????? where you got your infor? I was told launch was KIV due to some details in the plan not approved by authorities, developer have to resubmit proposal......

dtrax
17-11-12, 13:13
????? where you got your infor? I was told launch was KIV due to some details in the plan not approved by authorities, developer have to resubmit proposal......

Booked need not mean buy.. Many pple already selected their choice units riaox with blank checks. Prices indicative considered firm riaox

mastrix
17-11-12, 15:00
Please don't get me wrong.I am not complaining about insect noise. I am stating a fact that virgin forest such as 'Gunung Tahan'(In Malaysia) is also noisy at night. The noise does not come from insect, believe it come from wild animals like all kinds of monkey,wild birds,wild boar etc. In fact can hardly hear any insect noise as these were 'masked' by the sound of larger animals.

Just wondering, since you mention insect, will there be higher risk of mosquitoes' bites (may results in malaria/dengue) for those staying near hills/forests/jungle/park :beats-me-man:
U can consider staying in a box, find a place deep underground...LCK not a bad place. Confirm can meet your expectations.

mastrix
17-11-12, 15:24
Is it launched? Delay?

danntbt
17-11-12, 16:10
...pushed to early Dec...

danntbt
17-11-12, 16:20
Please don't get me wrong.I am not complaining about insect noise. I am stating a fact that virgin forest such as 'Gunung Tahan'(In Malaysia) is also noisy at night. The noise does not come from insect, believe it come from wild animals like all kinds of monkey,wild birds,wild boar etc. In fact can hardly hear any insect noise as these were 'masked' by the sound of larger animals.

Just wondering, since you mention insect, will there be higher risk of mosquitoes' bites (may results in malaria/dengue) for those staying near hills/forests/jungle/park :beats-me-man:
...anyway, Wild boar are relatively quiet creatures...unless of course they are angry or scared. It is on those occasions that the emit their most blood curdling squeals.....I wonder what you were doing to them up on Gunung Tahan.....likewise...monkeys make noise when they are excited...hmmmm....don't think these issues are of any concern with Eco Sanctuary nor the neighboring developments....

Pikachu1245
17-11-12, 19:30
Insect better than bike noise;) ;) ;) ;)

Depends on what insect. If certain mosquitoes(e.g. dengue carrier) , it can be dangerous..............:2cents:
Believe those staying near forest may be 'forest-killed' as a result if not careful....:2cents:

danntbt
17-11-12, 20:58
Depends on what insect. If certain mosquitoes(e.g. dengue carrier) , it can be dangerous..............:2cents:
Believe those staying near forest may be 'forest-killed' as a result if not careful....:2cents:

If you think all those mosquitoes in your yard are flying in from some far away forest, you may need to think again. The mosquito lives and breeds in urban areas and odds are it is making its home in your yard at this very moment.....or in your indoor chute....and the lovely reservoir.

danntbt
18-11-12, 14:48
The white lines are walking trails. I have walked the trails a couple of times. You can start the walk at the path near the end of Chestnut Ave (turn right to enter the path) and complete a loop round the forested area including the PUB water treatment plant and back. One loop takes above 1.5 hours.

The reservoir views along the trails are just fantastic. One can also see Tree House and Foresque from the very straight path and open area just beside the PUB water treatment plant. It is a place worth venturing...but not after a heavy rain.

There is also a path that leads to Upper Pierce Reservoir. One can see the path from Goggle Map.
Here's what you can find as per mentioned in the quote above:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8067/8194040567_1f297200ef_b.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8482/8195129682_cce83e5892_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8337/8194041251_fedf5c8bd5_b.jpg



But not for those who are scared of mosquitoes....do note that this is about 30 minutes walk from the condos...so don't think the mosquitoes like to travel that far to breed here.....they might prefer reservoirs that are nearer to condos...

chueec
18-11-12, 23:41
Bro Dan, thanks for sharing the photos...they are very nice indeed especially the bottom one...can become a wallpaper for my PC. I would like to share some of my photos taken there but unable to upload successfully...could not figure out what went wrong...maybe you can enlighten me how you did it.

Did you manage to take pictures of Tree House and Foresque from the open area (straight path) beside the PUB water treatment plant? From the pictures one can have a rough gauge whether his unit can see the Upper Pierce reservoir.

danntbt
19-11-12, 05:32
Bro Dan, thanks for sharing the photos...they are very nice indeed especially the bottom one...can become a wallpaper for my PC. I would like to share some of my photos taken there but unable to upload successfully...could not figure out what went wrong...maybe you can enlighten me how you did it.

Did you manage to take pictures of Tree House and Foresque from the open area (straight path) beside the PUB water treatment plant? From the pictures one can have a rough gauge whether his unit can see the Upper Pierce reservoir.
I did not go all the way as it was getting cloudy and I did not want to be caught in a thunderstorm in there. Will do so next trip....

I upload using a link on my flickr,
1)Clicking on action tab in flickr, I choose all sizes.
2)Control click on the image, choose open in new window
3)Copy the URL and paste on the add image pop up window.

Nighttrain
19-11-12, 06:32
I did not go all the way as it was getting cloudy and I did not want to be caught in a thunderstorm in there. Will do so next trip....

I upload using a link on my flickr,
1)Clicking on action tab in flickr, I choose all sizes.
2)Control click on the image, choose open in new window
3)Copy the URL and paste on the add image pop up window.
Bro how many % u have paid for the tree house ..just want to compare the building pace of tree house and fr.. I just paid 40% last week.. Since u mention th going to top April 2013 . And y fr is 2014mid one year diff

yowetan
19-11-12, 08:04
Hi...I will like to know - between TH, FR and ES - which one of them has :

1. The better landscape
2. Better location strategically (Though sitting next to each other)
3. Pricing profile
4. Facilities

Those who has/have already researched, please do share and shed some light here. TIA.

danntbt
19-11-12, 08:35
Bro how many % u have paid for the tree house ..just want to compare the building pace of tree house and fr.. I just paid 40% last week.. Since u mention th going to top April 2013 . And y fr is 2014mid one year diff
We are 2 stages from Notice of Vacant possession...so should be at 55%, we should be asked to pay another 5% soon for the completion of roads and carpark looking at the progress...after that 25% at TOP and finally the 15% at legal completion.

danntbt
19-11-12, 08:36
Hi...I will like to know - between TH, FR and ES - which one of them has :

1. The better landscape
2. Better location strategically (Though sitting next to each other)
3. Pricing profile
4. Facilities

Those who has/have already researched, please do share and shed some light here. TIA.
Read for yourself, everyone has different opinions and preferences.

sunrise
19-11-12, 12:24
U can consider staying in a box, find a place deep underground...LCK not a bad place. Confirm can meet your expectations.

:scared-1:

chueec
19-11-12, 12:55
:hell-hath-no-fury: ...this is more appropriate.

Nighttrain
19-11-12, 22:27
We are 2 stages from Notice of Vacant possession...so should be at 55%, we should be asked to pay another 5% soon for the completion of roads and carpark looking at the progress...after that 25% at TOP and finally the 15% at legal completion.Thanks for u infor.. Looking forward to pay money.. Which mean finish ceiling work 5%, brick work 5% and install door and window 5% .need another 6 month to do all this

danntbt
20-11-12, 04:44
Upon the grant of Option to Purchase 5% – 10% (booking fee)
Upon signing of the Sale & Purchase Agreement or within 8 weeks from the Option date 20% less booking fee
Completion of foundation work 10%
Completion of reinforced concrete framework of unit 10%
Completion of brick walls of unit 5%
Completion of roofing/ceiling of unit 5%
Completion of electrical wiring, internal plastering, plumbing and installation of door and window frames of unit 5%
Completion of car park, roads and drains serving the housing project 5%
Notice of Vacant Possession 25%
On Completion Date 15%

Nighttrain
20-11-12, 05:25
Upon the grant of Option to Purchase 5% – 10% (booking fee)
Upon signing of the Sale & Purchase Agreement or within 8 weeks from the Option date 20% less booking fee
Completion of foundation work 10%
Completion of reinforced concrete framework of unit 10%
Completion of brick walls of unit 5%
Completion of roofing/ceiling of unit 5%
Completion of electrical wiring, internal plastering, plumbing and installation of door and window frames of unit 5%
Completion of car park, roads and drains serving the housing project 5%
Notice of Vacant Possession 25%
On Completion Date 15%So for payment the developer really ask for 5% per time or one short 15% or 10% first since ceiling and brick wall are build together ..

danntbt
20-11-12, 05:46
So for payment the developer really ask for 5% per time or one short 15% or 10% first since ceiling and brick wall are build together ..
I do not remember adjusting my installment that often, I think they do lump together.

Normally the ground floor units do not have their window frames installed until much later, like some ground floor units at TH still do not have the window frames installed, they are just beginning to work on the plastering, but the rest from 2nd floor are more or less completed.

Nighttrain
20-11-12, 05:56
Hi...I will like to know - between TH, FR and ES - which one of them has :

1. The better landscape
2. Better location strategically (Though sitting next to each other)
3. Pricing profile
4. Facilities

Those who has/have already researched, please do share and shed some light here. TIA.
I would suggest u to wait and buy es since u miss the boat of th and fr.. Go for es Vvip sale get more discount and next time u got better resale price.. Plus better view rather than buy from resale market.. After es launch wt may drop price or es may sell at the same price as wt . So to u it still the same. For fr u dun have much choice unit.. Th all sold .. So y dun go for es.. Do ur study .. Bro Dan already post all the 3 site map together plus reservoir view map .. Plus es is the last project confirm once u selected ur reservoir view unit it will not be block by anything.pls bear in mind the view is one thing the noise from pie. But all nice sea view condo along Ecp also having the same problem and they are not cheap also. One four bedded silver sea unit sell at $5.1 m but down stair is Ecp .. My younger brother brought a 5 room hdb at teban garden got nice reservoir but the air very dirty as the 3 burner from jurong island keep burning .. Older brother just get key from waterfront key also got nice reservoir view with a small road in front so ok not much noise. But in this forum a lot of good and bad comment and that very useful before u make ur purchase.. Just read th, fr, Petir rd and sm.

yowetan
20-11-12, 10:28
I would suggest u to wait and buy es since u miss the boat of th and fr.. Go for es Vvip sale get more discount and next time u got better resale price.. Plus better view rather than buy from resale market.. After es launch wt may drop price or es may sell at the same price as wt . So to u it still the same. For fr u dun have much choice unit.. Th all sold .. So y dun go for es.. Do ur study .. Bro Dan already post all the 3 site map together plus reservoir view map .. Plus es is the last project confirm once u selected ur reservoir view unit it will not be block by anything.pls bear in mind the view is one thing the noise from pie. But all nice sea view condo along Ecp also having the same problem and they are not cheap also. One four bedded silver sea unit sell at $5.1 m but down stair is Ecp .. My younger brother brought a 5 room hdb at teban garden got nice reservoir but the air very dirty as the 3 burner from jurong island keep burning .. Older brother just get key from waterfront key also got nice reservoir view with a small road in front so ok not much noise. But in this forum a lot of good and bad comment and that very useful before u make ur purchase.. Just read th, fr, Petir rd and sm.


I do not think I have any spare cash for it. May I know what is the latest stamp duty structure like?

danntbt
20-11-12, 15:49
I do not think I have any spare cash for it. May I know what is the latest stamp duty structure like?
....what happened to the war chest that you accumulated for Mt Sinai/FV?

yowetan
20-11-12, 15:52
....what happened to the war chest that you accumulated for Mt Sinai/FV?

Hi I am building it and preparing for Henry Park apartment... I am waiting. Being said that, I am also keen in Eco Santuary.

Nighttrain
21-11-12, 06:10
Hi...I will like to know - between TH, FR and ES - which one of them has :

1. The better landscape
2. Better location strategically (Though sitting next to each other)
3. Pricing profile
4. Facilities

Those who has/have already researched, please do share and shed some light here. TIA.agent call me last night say their Vvip launch may be this weekend or next one . Ask to meet to show me the floor plan lay out but need to pass him a cheque to book a place to go in the show flat.. Any one interested may go to site to do ur booking .

Pikachu1245
21-11-12, 21:58
:D
If you think all those mosquitoes in your yard are flying in from some far away forest, you may need to think again. The mosquito lives and breeds in urban areas and odds are it is making its home in your yard at this very moment.....or in your indoor chute....and the lovely reservoir.

Mosquitoes can breed with stagnant water puddle the size of 20c (so they say). Can you imagine how many of these potential mosquito sites there are at housing near/next to Nature Reserve which cannot be controlled with fumigation or NEA fine as there are part of NATURE?

For urban site, NEA(thru enforcement/education) and residents (cooperation) can do something to keep mosquito at bay.:D

Which has a higher risk of mosquito and dengue risk? Logic will tell.....

mastrix
21-11-12, 22:00
:D

Mosquitoes can breed with stagnant water puddle the size of 20c (so they say). Can you imagine how many of these potential mosquito sites there are at housing near/next to Nature Reserve which cannot be controlled with fumigation or NEA fine as there are part of NATURE?

For urban site, NEA(thru enforcement/education) and residents (cooperation) can do something to keep mosquito at bay.:D

Which has a higher risk of mosquito and dengue risk? Logic will tell.....
me always got mosquito bites when I play golf...

sunrise
21-11-12, 22:33
:D

Mosquitoes can breed with stagnant water puddle the size of 20c (so they say). Can you imagine how many of these potential mosquito sites there are at housing near/next to Nature Reserve which cannot be controlled with fumigation or NEA fine as there are part of NATURE?

For urban site, NEA(thru enforcement/education) and residents (cooperation) can do something to keep mosquito at bay.:D

Which has a higher risk of mosquito and dengue risk? Logic will tell.....


something more scary than mosquitos.

the pischaacha.

Wild Falcon
22-11-12, 08:55
You are so funny and anyhow say Dairy Farm and Upper Bukit Timah area dengue hotspot? Do you know those mozzies deep within nature are different from those that live around people's houses and breed in stagnant water? These mozzies are not the dengue mozzies and they generally do not wander out of the nature reserves and live in people's houses. Singapore's dengue and mosquito hotspots are listed on NEA website. You would be surprised - the hotspots are usually far from the nature reserves like Changi and Serangoon and Woodlands. Why not you just visit some of the condos near nature in Bukit Timah or Upper Bukit Timah and see if full of dengue mozzies without spewing rubbish?


:D

Mosquitoes can breed with stagnant water puddle the size of 20c (so they say). Can you imagine how many of these potential mosquito sites there are at housing near/next to Nature Reserve which cannot be controlled with fumigation or NEA fine as there are part of NATURE?

For urban site, NEA(thru enforcement/education) and residents (cooperation) can do something to keep mosquito at bay.:D

Which has a higher risk of mosquito and dengue risk? Logic will tell.....

Wild Falcon
22-11-12, 09:54
Hey Pikachu, I've read most of the posts and most relate to how much you hated nature and the sounds of insects and animals in the forest may kill you and stuff like that. I appreciate your point of view and understand some people would prefer all nature to be destroyed so that "wild" animals and sound of the forest no longer exist but there are others who believe the nature should be conserved and preserved. Frankly I prefer the sound of the cicada to traffic noise. So if you really prefer built-up areas far from nature, then you should look for such properties which are in abundance. I'm sure there are lots of such properties when you don't come across many trees or animals or insects and only human, cars and concrete.


Depends on what insect. If certain mosquitoes(e.g. dengue carrier) , it can be dangerous..............:2cents:
Believe those staying near forest may be 'forest-killed' as a result if not careful....:2cents:

wt_know
22-11-12, 11:05
vvip launch not yet but there are already several postings in propertyguru ... insider buyers?

akow
22-11-12, 17:58
Give a cheque to see the showroom??
Must be a joke...for a location far far away from Hillview MRT...

Everyone knows the developer overpaid for the land cost.
It's a Malaysia developer.
How good their standard, better do a research if this is their 1st property development in Singapore.
What is their track record internationally??

danntbt
22-11-12, 19:38
Give a cheque to see the showroom??
Must be a joke...for a location far far away from Hillview MRT...

Everyone knows the developer overpaid for the land cost.
It's a Malaysia developer.
How good their standard, better do a research if this is their 1st property development in Singapore.
What is their track record internationally??

Petty standard practice nowadays for the perceived higher demand properties to ask for cheques to be submitted for previews.....

Lets see how the sales first before you draw your conclusion, Skies Miltonia achieved above 1k psf even though their land price was actually lower....that was also far from MRT. As mentioned in past discussion, MRT is not the conclusive determinant for prices as there are other factors that attracts buyers.

Tree House must have surprised market watchers like you when it sold out within a couple of months. Foresque is also selling briskly in their staggered launches.

And do not look down on Malaysia's developer, they do have pretty impressive portfolio if you know KLCC property scene or Penang.

akow
22-11-12, 21:53
Anyone can just comment without support of URA data..
Comparison is meaningful if we compare apple to apple, not apple to orange.

Comparing this project with skies miltonia is not practical, surrounding view is much different.

Foresque residences struggled to sell, data shows 83% sold after more than one and half year.
While Skies miltonia with data shows 74% sold after less than 2 months.
TreeHouse is popular cos of competitive pricing 2 years ago (below $900psf)...

Malaysia developer? What is their track record here??

mastrix
22-11-12, 22:24
Pikachu1245, no wonder you don't like trees..... your nick got no 3. hahaha :D

Just saw the news....Yishun Ave 1 also got car speeding noise. What makes you like noise so much? Car...Aeroplane. :scared-1:

danntbt
23-11-12, 05:49
Anyone can just comment without support of URA data..
Comparison is meaningful if we compare apple to apple, not apple to orange.

Comparing this project with skies miltonia is not practical, surrounding view is much different.

Foresque residences struggled to sell, data shows 83% sold after more than one and half year.
While Skies miltonia with data shows 74% sold after less than 2 months.
TreeHouse is popular cos of competitive pricing 2 years ago (below $900psf)...

Malaysia developer? What is their track record here??

....if you look at URA data history, Foresque has sold at an increasing price, you can get more interesting data on Suare Foot site, the median selling price for FR has been rising....and I thought people has been saying Skies is over 80% sold?

Anyway I am quoting Skies more to suggest to you that MRT is not the main factor, not to say which of the two development is better.....

Track record: http://www.spsetia.com.my/corporate/our-products.asp

Tree House competitive price? The average 800 plus was the higher end 2 years ago, you cannot compare with today's price....it beats Mi Casa in price and sales even though MiCasa was very near MRT and a Mall.

Anyway are you familiar with Chestnut Ave, Zhenghua Park and the Bt Timah Reserve area? Have you been to the area? But be warned those who do not appreciate nor understand nature may have all kind of ideas about insect, animals and such....

My point is lets see how the launch perform ......... even the so call expert professional analysts can never get it right for the past years.......what makes you any better.....so where are your figures from URA to support your argument except for 2 outdated figure on percentage sales?

NorthernStar
23-11-12, 06:24
Anyone can just comment without support of URA data..
Comparison is meaningful if we compare apple to apple, not apple to orange.

Comparing this project with skies miltonia is not practical, surrounding view is much different.

Foresque residences struggled to sell, data shows 83% sold after more than one and half year.
While Skies miltonia with data shows 74% sold after less than 2 months.
TreeHouse is popular cos of competitive pricing 2 years ago (below $900psf)...

Malaysia developer? What is their track record here??

if you really keen to know this developer, they have show gallery in HarbourFront. Go and see their profile and talk to them. Their first project in Singapore is the 18 Woodsville.


http://www.spsetia.com.my/corporate/our-products.asp

azeoprop
23-11-12, 07:06
Tonight got "night preview" of the sales gallery 9.30pm to 10.30pm.

:D

chueec
23-11-12, 08:13
Tonight got "night preview" of the sales gallery 9.30pm to 10.30pm.

:D
This is a limited opportunity to own limitless nature...to people who love to live near to Trees and Foresque.

But not sure why night preview...in case some of you are not aware...there are lots of fire flies in the neighbourhood...just venture into the woods at night and open your eyes wide....:eek:

akow
23-11-12, 08:52
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Tree House competitive price? The average 800 plus was the higher end 2 years ago, you cannot compare with today's price....it beats Mi Casa in price and sales even though MiCasa was very near MRT and a Mall.

so where are your figures from URA to support your argument except for 2 outdated figure on percentage sales?

I have the full updated figures from URA, not just percentage sales.

Tree house beats Mi Casa in pricing, because Mi Casa quality for finishing is not good.
But in terms of sales volume for past 6 months, Mi Casa is doing better.

Tree House subsales:
June to Nov 2012 ~range from $908psf to $1039psf
Sales volume: 10

Mi Casa subsales
June to Nov 2012 ~ range from $804psf to $991psf
Sales volume: 22


With Tree House TOP is less than a year, average subsale $psf is still below $1000psf.
Yet the so-called high ceiling project is selling at close to $1200psf.
The Malaysia developer could have thot that Singaporean is willing to pay 20% higher premium over another project (TreeHouse) which would TOP soon.

wt_know
23-11-12, 09:23
developer is desperate to sell before 2013 sets in ... :D


Tonight got "night preview" of the sales gallery 9.30pm to 10.30pm.

:D

toiletsiao
23-11-12, 10:21
developer is desperate to sell before 2013 sets in ... :D
yo u from bmw-sg?

sunrise
23-11-12, 11:18
Pikachu1245, no wonder you don't like trees..... your nick got no 3. hahaha :D

Just saw the news....Yishun Ave 1 also got car speeding noise. What makes you like noise so much? Car...Aeroplane. :scared-1:

a person who get too used to market place in his lifetime.
kon way tua tua sia. ai ya mai su.

danntbt
23-11-12, 13:01
I have the full updated figures from URA, not just percentage sales.

Tree house beats Mi Casa in pricing, because Mi Casa quality for finishing is not good.
But in terms of sales volume for past 6 months, Mi Casa is doing better.

Tree House subsales:
June to Nov 2012 ~range from $908psf to $1039psf
Sales volume: 10

Mi Casa subsales
June to Nov 2012 ~ range from $804psf to $991psf
Sales volume: 22


With Tree House TOP is less than a year, average subsale $psf is still below $1000psf.
Yet the so-called high ceiling project is selling at close to $1200psf.
The Malaysia developer could have thot that Singaporean is willing to pay 20% higher premium over another project (TreeHouse) which would TOP soon.

Aiyah what are you saying....of course Mi Casa sales volume better....lower price and ready to move in.....you can say what you want....don't try to be an expert when you are not....just wait for the launch before you say cannot sell....

URA updates are available to everyone....anyway.... don't look Malaysian Developer No-Up....after all Malaysia Boleh! Further down the road at Hillview also got PRC developer...

akow
24-11-12, 08:45
you can say what you want....don't try to be an expert when you are not....just wait for the launch before you say cannot sell....

URA updates are available to everyone....anyway.... don't look Malaysian Developer No-Up....after all Malaysia Boleh! Further down the road at Hillview also got PRC developer...

As far as reasonable rental yield and good capital appreciation potential are concerned, this project does not meet the criterias.

Why buy the new project at $1200psf, when one can buy TreeHouse at $1000psf in subsales and can move in soon with TOP just around the corner.


Foresque residences latest median pricing is $1181psf, and sold $83% since June 2011.
So, it will likely take another two years for this new project to sell most of its units.
When buying new property with a lot of empty land around, need to be cautious cos of competitions from other future projects, and then the construction noise.

danntbt
24-11-12, 11:32
As far as reasonable rental yield and good capital appreciation potential are concerned, this project does not meet the criterias.

Why buy the new project at $1200psf, when one can buy TreeHouse at $1000psf in subsales and can move in soon with TOP just around the corner.


Foresque residences latest median pricing is $1181psf, and sold $83% since June 2011.
So, it will likely take another two years for this new project to sell most of its units.
When buying new property with a lot of empty land around, need to be cautious cos of competitions from other future projects, and then the construction noise.
Tell that to the 100 odd buyers who have booked their units this morning.....not bad for an "overpriced development" (according to one particular expert)....

Showroom is opened to Public since about 11 am.

beepbeep
24-11-12, 11:48
I have the full updated figures from URA, not just percentage sales.

Tree house beats Mi Casa in pricing, because Mi Casa quality for finishing is not good.
But in terms of sales volume for past 6 months, Mi Casa is doing better.

Tree House subsales:
June to Nov 2012 ~range from $908psf to $1039psf
Sales volume: 10

Mi Casa subsales
June to Nov 2012 ~ range from $804psf to $991psf
Sales volume: 22


With Tree House TOP is less than a year, average subsale $psf is still below $1000psf.
Yet the so-called high ceiling project is selling at close to $1200psf.
The Malaysia developer could have thot that Singaporean is willing to pay 20% higher premium over another project (TreeHouse) which would TOP soon.

Mi Casa already T.O.P so it's called resale whereas Tree House still under sub sale phase, that's the reason the price difference between the 2 projects

Wild Falcon
24-11-12, 12:08
Frankly, that is true for almost all developments in Singapore - not much capital appreciation potential today already - and I heard anticipated rental yields for d'Leedon is only 2% in D10 - that is coming from d'Leedon's agent's mouth which means actual yields could be worse in that area. I think most buyers of this development at Chestnut area will be owner-occupiers.


As far as reasonable rental yield and good capital appreciation potential are concerned, this project does not meet the criterias.

Why buy the new project at $1200psf, when one can buy TreeHouse at $1000psf in subsales and can move in soon with TOP just around the corner.


Foresque residences latest median pricing is $1181psf, and sold $83% since June 2011.
So, it will likely take another two years for this new project to sell most of its units.
When buying new property with a lot of empty land around, need to be cautious cos of competitions from other future projects, and then the construction noise.

danntbt
24-11-12, 12:51
Frankly speaking,price is one thing, but livable space another, the ID was a bit overboard at the show flat, the reality is bit distorted, the actual ceiling height for most units are only 3.2m, but for illustration, the show flat uses the Ground Floor height at 3.8m. There are some indication of the measurement on the wall, but not all walls. The kitchen is mini...for the 3 bedder, and open for the 2+1, no yard and just a small opening for laundry?

The 2+1 unit at the showroom has the Bedroom 2 and Study merged with a mezzo floor for bed built-in for illustration....the actual Bedroom 2 is so small that it prob can accommodate a bed and maybe a small wardrobe.

The facilities look nice, but ......its a high premium over TH...I was quoted a 2+1 (775sqft) on the 10th floor facing park at 875K....over 1.12k psf...but there are buyers never the less....

mastrix
24-11-12, 12:52
I think most buyers of this development at Chestnut area will be owner-occupiers.
You got it right here! Most of the owners in TH are talking about development nearby that we could make use when we move in....we don't talk $. Sub-sale...resale....nah. :tsk-tsk:

yowetan
24-11-12, 13:23
The Eco Santuary price is impressive. It is out of my affordability.

danntbt
24-11-12, 13:24
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Wild Falcon
24-11-12, 13:27
Looks like more agents than buyers from the pictures. The hexagonal design is quite interesting - Malaysia developer boleh - something new to our boring box design we see here.

danntbt
24-11-12, 13:28
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yowetan
24-11-12, 13:31
The design is really unqiue and interesting! Good buy for the prospective buyers.

danntbt
24-11-12, 13:31
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azeoprop
24-11-12, 13:31
The facade of the building got that middle east urban look....:rolleyes:

danntbt
24-11-12, 13:37
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yowetan
24-11-12, 13:37
Frankly speaking,price is one thing, but livable space another, the ID was a bit overboard at the show flat, the reality is bit distorted, the actual ceiling height for most units are only 3.2m, but for illustration, the show flat uses the Ground Floor height at 3.8m. There are some indication of the measurement on the wall, but not all walls. The kitchen is mini...for the 3 bedder, and open for the 2+1, no yard and just a small opening for laundry?

The 2+1 unit at the showroom has the Bedroom 2 and Study merged with a mezzo floor for bed built-in for illustration....the actual Bedroom 2 is so small that it prob can accommodate a bed and maybe a small wardrobe.

The facilities look nice, but ......its a high premium over TH...I was quoted a 2+1 (775sqft) on the 10th floor facing park at 875K....over 1.12k psf...but there are buyers never the less....

Hi, read your description of the 2 bedder and the photo - Wondering if we can actually request developer to customize the place as such or stick to the original 2+S layout?

Good to accomodate all my family members in such configuration.

danntbt
24-11-12, 13:49
Hi, read your description of the 2 bedder and the photo - Wondering if we can actually request developer to customize the place as such or stick to the original 2+S layout?

Good to accomodate all my family members in such configuration.


...doubt they would do, but you could try....most likely they would recommend you to consult your own ID, but for the 2 bedders, only Master bedroom has built in....they leave the other rooms bare for buyers' 'flexibility' to configure....
do bear in mind, the living area is real small, and no proper kitchen.

yowetan
24-11-12, 13:51
...doubt they would do, but you could try....most likely they would recommend you to consult your own ID, but for the 2 bedders, only Master bedroom has built in....they leave the other rooms bare for buyers' 'flexibility' to configure....
do bear in mind, the living area is real small, and no proper kitchen.

Hi Is the ceiling for 2 bedder is well illustrated or a distorted representation?

danntbt
24-11-12, 13:55
Hi Is the ceiling for 2 bedder is well illustrated or a distorted representation?
..as I mentioned, the show flat ceiling is 3.8 m, only ground floor has this height.....2nd floor onwards should be 3.2 m, so the mezz-height, possibly good for sitting up on the bed....for shorter persons....originally the agent told me it was 3.5M but perhaps that was not approved as the overall building height could have surpassed the limit set for the area....so in actually fact, its ceiling is only slightly higher than Tree House.

jacelynchia
24-11-12, 14:09
I must say very impressive showflat, spectacular design and use of space.
The showflat is 3.8 m in height but the most units are 3.2m?
The concept maximizes space, wonder if ceiling height of 2.8 can be done?

Anyone knows psf and size for three bedder?

sunrise
24-11-12, 14:12
this project reminds me of another project at KJE. only its taller and refine finishing.

yowetan
24-11-12, 14:15
Why do the agents keep saying it is a 3.4m ceiling?

danntbt
24-11-12, 14:21
I must say very impressive showflat, spectacular design and use of space.
The showflat is 3.8 m in height but the most units are 3.2m?
The concept maximizes space, wonder if ceiling height of 2.8 can be done?

Anyone knows psf and size for three bedder?


3 bedder compact is around 980 sqft, from 1M.....think slightly below 1.1K psf.

3+1 is 1.2M at 1163 sqft

At 2.8, you can adjust the height of the platform to about 1.6m....that give you a 1.2 m upper deck, but you need to incorporate your shelving and study area below the deck....and no flexibility to have a larger deck except to accommodate the mattress.

danntbt
24-11-12, 14:26
Why do the agents keep saying it is a 3.4m ceiling?


3.4M Floor-to-Floor...minus about 0.2 floor slab....for Floor-to-Ceiling

jacelynchia
24-11-12, 14:32
3 bedder compact is around 980 sqft, from 1M.....think slightly below 1.1K psf.

3+1 is 1.2M at 1163 sqft

At 2.8, you can adjust the height of the platform to about 1.6m....that give you a 1.2 m upper deck, but you need to incorporate your shelving and study area below the deck....and no flexibility to have a larger deck except to accommodate the mattress.



Thanks, the price quoted is low floor pricing?
The 1.2m at 1163 sqft seems seems reasonable right?

Oh I think at 2.8 ceiling height, can be done as well, as long as the as bed is one side and table is on the other and the platform can be slanted as well.

august
24-11-12, 14:35
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8347/8213351628_e5df6a7d12_b.jpg

wah, kitchen soooooo small.

jacelynchia
24-11-12, 14:42
wah, kitchen soooooo small.

Indeed small, the kitchen only designed for people in shape and I wonder can 2 people walk at the same time?

What is the flooring of the living room and kitchen?
Why the kitchen flooring looks very dull like tiles?

danntbt
24-11-12, 14:43
wah, kitchen soooooo small.
....think the developer rather use the word 'Compact'....think most compact 2/3 bedder below 1000 sqft are similar...

danntbt
24-11-12, 14:45
Indeed small, the kitchen only designed for people in shape and I wonder can 2 people walk at the same time?

What is the flooring of the living room and kitchen?
Why the kitchen flooring looks very dull like tiles?
..think there are choices....including granite...not sure a bout marble, kitchen is ceramic I think.


I guess you cannot fault the accessibility of the Chute......can say at that height, child proofed?...just need to be careful when cooking...don't open the chute or additional 'ingredient' might fly into the pan....

btw ...wondering where's the fridge...

jacelynchia
24-11-12, 14:51
..think there are choices....including granite...not sure a bout marble, kitchen is ceramic I think.


Oh, The showflat living room is marble?
The kitchen is ceramic and bathrooms looks like it's granite.

dtrax
24-11-12, 14:54
juz came b from cao char.. stickers sold many many. 1 n 4rm release all sold

danntbt
24-11-12, 14:59
Oh, The showflat living room is marble?
The kitchen is ceramic and bathrooms looks like it's granite.


Think is it Granite?:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8344/8212403361_986ffedd83_o.jpg

Kanarazu
24-11-12, 15:12
3 bedder compact is around 980 sqft, from 1M.....think slightly below 1.1K psf.

3+1 is 1.2M at 1163 sqft

At 2.8, you can adjust the height of the platform to about 1.6m....that give you a 1.2 m upper deck, but you need to incorporate your shelving and study area below the deck....and no flexibility to have a larger deck except to accommodate the mattress.

You still need to set aside 10cm for the platform... so upper deck max 110cm.

Kanarazu
24-11-12, 15:21
Indeed small, the kitchen only designed for people in shape and I wonder can 2 people walk at the same time?

What is the flooring of the living room and kitchen?
Why the kitchen flooring looks very dull like tiles?

Kitchen walk-way pretty standard, this one is std 900mm wide, you can see the 1.5 x 600mm tiles on the floor. Some condos kitchen width is 1200mm, which is more comfortable, e.g. Bartley Residences.

Wild Falcon
24-11-12, 18:27
I remember for The Hillier SOHO, FEO will do the mezzanine and TV console FOC for you (but of course premium pricing lah). Not sure about this developer though. I must say, looks impressive from the pictures above. This is an award winning Malaysian developer right? The hexagonal design is very refreshing.


Hi, read your description of the 2 bedder and the photo - Wondering if we can actually request developer to customize the place as such or stick to the original 2+S layout?

Good to accomodate all my family members in such configuration.

danntbt
24-11-12, 19:01
...any sales figure?

jacelynchia
24-11-12, 19:01
You still need to set aside 10cm for the platform... so upper deck max 110cm.


I think can be done as long as platform on the other side.

jacelynchia
24-11-12, 19:04
Kitchen walk-way pretty standard, this one is std 900mm wide, you can see the 1.5 x 600mm tiles on the floor. Some condos kitchen width is 1200mm, which is more comfortable, e.g. Bartley Residences.


The standard now is small then.
My Dad who is bigger in size, I see difficulty for him to walk with ease.

Kanarazu
24-11-12, 19:41
The standard now is small then.
My Dad who is bigger in size, I see difficulty for him to walk with ease.

I think your unit at SM also standard width. The reason why you don't feel it is because both sides of the kitchen are not always full height cabinet. In the case of Eco sanctuary one side is full height cabinet hence the perception it is narrower.

jacelynchia
24-11-12, 19:54
I think your unit at SM also standard width. The reason why you don't feel it is because both sides of the kitchen are not always full height cabinet. In the case of Eco sanctuary one side is full height cabinet hence the perception it is narrower.


I am not sure but I think the one at skies is bigger as at the showflat was quite crowded and my hubby and I can move with ease, did not find a issue but seriously, my dad will have trouble with eco's kitchen space.
Anyway I really liked the eco showflat which maximizes space, very nicely done as well!

Did you get a unit there? Is the living room marble flooring as well?

Kanarazu
24-11-12, 20:17
I am not sure but I think the one at skies is bigger as at the showflat was quite crowded and my hubby and I can move with ease, did not find a issue but seriously, my dad will have trouble with eco's kitchen space.
Anyway I really liked the eco showflat which maximizes space, very nicely done as well!

Did you get a unit there? Is the living room marble flooring as well?

I haven't been to the showroom yet, just enjoying those pics posted. ;) will visit sometime later to find out.

yowetan
24-11-12, 20:20
It is a pity that I am unable to afford to get one in Eco Santuary. It is a very nice project.

Kanarazu
24-11-12, 20:30
Indeed small, the kitchen only designed for people in shape and I wonder can 2 people walk at the same time?

What is the flooring of the living room and kitchen?
Why the kitchen flooring looks very dull like tiles?

Kitchen ceiling height looks taller than normal so that may exaggerate the narrow passage way. Btw I found this floor plan and I must agree with you the passage way looks less than 900mm, probably only 780mm.

http://images02.olx.com.sg/ui/2/11/74/1351861371_451940774_3-ECO-Sanctuary-by-SP-Setia-International-Real-Estate.jpg

danntbt
24-11-12, 20:39
I am not sure but I think the one at skies is bigger as at the showflat was quite crowded and my hubby and I can move with ease, did not find a issue but seriously, my dad will have trouble with eco's kitchen space.
Anyway I really liked the eco showflat which maximizes space, very nicely done as well!

Did you get a unit there? Is the living room marble flooring as well?

I basically copy and paste ES main areas on to Skies , namely
1) Living + Balcony
2) Room2
3) Master
4) Kitchen walkway

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8486/8212919539_46120a3b93_b.jpg

As you can see, rooms are comparable, kitchen almost exactly the same, ES has bigger living space, Skies lesser living space goes to the bomb shelter and masters balcony.

jacelynchia
24-11-12, 20:52
I basically copy and paste ES main areas on to Skies , namely
1) Living + Balcony
2) Room2
3) Master
4) Kitchen walkway

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8486/8212919539_46120a3b93_b.jpg

As you can see, rooms are comparable, kitchen almost exactly the same, ES has bigger living space, Skies lesser living space goes to the bomb shelter and masters balcony.


Agreed! But we are only talking bout kitchen space right?
I was at the preview day showflat, very crowded but my hubby and I still move around with ease, Eco's one, I really wonder.
Shall ask my friend then.

Kanarazu
24-11-12, 20:54
SP Setia floor plans for 18 Woodsville and this development don't show furniture in the drawing, makes it difficult for buyers to assess the floor plan.

danntbt
24-11-12, 21:05
Agreed! But we are only talking bout kitchen space right?
I was at the preview day showflat, very crowded but my hubby and I still move around with ease, Eco's one, I really wonder.
Shall ask my friend then.


I take into account the built up for ES taking the window opening as guide accruing to the image, the plans are scaled according to the doorway opening, assuming both are standard.

As you can see above, its a matter of standard minimal space in terms of the rooms and kitchen, ES has bigger living room, SM bigger secondary balcony.

ES masters has a small balcony next to the bathroom.

The colored overlays on SM plan are ES corresponding space.

Shanhz
24-11-12, 21:21
I think your unit at SM also standard width. The reason why you don't feel it is because both sides of the kitchen are not always full height cabinet. In the case of Eco sanctuary one side is full height cabinet hence the perception it is narrower.

SM kitchen is like this.. also quite narrow, but good thing is it is not so long, broken up by the yard, so you dun feel it is very very narrow. and you are right about the full height cabinets. the "depth" of the cabinet is also less deep for SM ie: can store less things. from practical pt of view, ES better. from aesthetics, SM better

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NAa66ZiERxw/ULDXp6IxEzI/AAAAAAAAE_M/kiVIdrfLYFc/s800/20121119_183002.jpg

price
24-11-12, 21:25
SP Setia floor plans for 18 Woodsville and this development don't show furniture in the drawing, makes it difficult for buyers to assess the floor plan.

i think it's better. do u know many masterbeds in floor plans are not drawn to scale?

Shanhz
24-11-12, 21:30
Foresque residences struggled to sell, data shows 83% sold after more than one and half year.
While Skies miltonia with data shows 74% sold after less than 2 months.
TreeHouse is popular cos of competitive pricing 2 years ago (below $900psf)...


just some facts. no right or wrong between the diff devpts.

skies is already 82% sold after 1.5 mths. yishun ave 1 speeding bikes dun affect many of the skies units, except the 1BR and 2BR facing ave 1 (probably 20%? of all units).

danntbt
24-11-12, 21:30
SM kitchen is like this.. also quite narrow, but good thing is it is not so long, broken up by the yard, so you dun feel it is very very narrow. and you are right about the full height cabinets. the "depth" of the cabinet is also less deep for SM ie: can store less things. from practical pt of view, ES better. from aesthetics, SM better

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NAa66ZiERxw/ULDXp6IxEzI/AAAAAAAAE_M/kiVIdrfLYFc/s800/20121119_183002.jpg
Looking at the picture you posted, this kitchen is not the 3 bedroom compact layout.

You should compare with C1 Kitchen layout.

Shanhz
24-11-12, 21:32
Anyway I am quoting Skies more to suggest to you that MRT is not the main factor, not to say which of the two development is better.....


i think skies is a great subject for marketing studies. no MRT, cheap land expensive price. "potential" investment on a hub that hasn't even developed much yet. not established player for mass mkt.

how did they manage to pull it off? reservoir view estuary also got. and near MRT somemore. fengshui really can charge 300psf more?

jacelynchia
24-11-12, 21:40
Looking at the picture you posted, this kitchen is not the 3 bedroom compact layout.

You should compare with C1 Kitchen layout.

IF I am not wrong, the compact and premium are the same in kitchen space,living room, one bedroom size is just slightly smaller.
Premium all rooms have balconies and there is one more yard.

Shanhz
24-11-12, 21:45
Looking at the picture you posted, this kitchen is not the 3 bedroom compact layout.

You should compare with C1 Kitchen layout.

wah! you must be agent!!! one look you know already. SM only show the premium kitchen. anyway remove the yard and you have the compact. SM is much "shorter" that's why it doesn't feel so narrow. no running from the fact that manoevrering space is really lacking for both devpts. want big kitchen, go and get nautical. the kitchen (dry and wet) are well designed, and very spacious looking (but lack of usable space)

anyway, face it, how much time we spend in the kitchen anyway? :)

dtrax
24-11-12, 22:16
will u guys rather have open space kitchen or a super narrow kitchen? If need heavy frying rather go da bao from outside?

mastrix
24-11-12, 22:19
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8486/8212919539_46120a3b93_b.jpg


Wah... bedroom 2 & 3 windows open see ledge and air con ledge! :doh:

danntbt
24-11-12, 22:26
wah! you must be agent!!! one look you know already. SM only show the premium kitchen. anyway remove the yard and you have the compact. SM is much "shorter" that's why it doesn't feel so narrow. no running from the fact that manoevrering space is really lacking for both devpts. want big kitchen, go and get nautical. the kitchen (dry and wet) are well designed, and very spacious looking (but lack of usable space)

anyway, face it, how much time we spend in the kitchen anyway? :)


...I'll take that as a compliment, maybe I should change line and be an agent, nearly vomited blood talking to an agent at ES this morning....I wonder how they do their homework when a layman can know more than some of them...


I am just trying to be objective here, there is no absolute better or worse , just what suits or are deem acceptable to buyers....but there will always be lop-sided opinions and unscrupulous agents or individuals who may have overly defensive outlook.

price
24-11-12, 22:35
will u guys rather have open space kitchen or a super narrow kitchen? If need heavy frying rather go da bao from outside?
i choose narrow over open space. open space = harder to keep the house clean!

Kanarazu
24-11-12, 22:37
i think it's better. do u know many masterbeds in floor plans are not drawn to scale?

I've not come across any that is drawn smaller than it should. Please share an example so that I can check...

jacelynchia
24-11-12, 22:44
will u guys rather have open space kitchen or a super narrow kitchen? If need heavy frying rather go da bao from outside?

No matter what, there will be a time that you need the kitchen regardless if you eat outside, despite for some not very often but there will be a time you want to eat home or cook.

My mum cooks almost everyday, it's her hobby so kitchen space must be practical.

sunrise
24-11-12, 22:55
I basically copy and paste ES main areas on to Skies , namely
1) Living + Balcony
2) Room2
3) Master
4) Kitchen walkway

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8486/8212919539_46120a3b93_b.jpg

As you can see, rooms are comparable, kitchen almost exactly the same, ES has bigger living space, Skies lesser living space goes to the bomb shelter and masters balcony.


add foresque 3 bedder 1130 sq ft. for comparison.
the hall has 2 times the size of its master bedroom.