View Full Version : Everytime u see the word "easing" by central banks = property up!
PropertyNewbie
20-08-12, 01:49
Everyone with a house to their name dun worry.
Those with multiple properties panicking at the URA figures showing 0.x% price growth dun worry.
Everyone who bought this year or even just bought last weekend dun worry.
I have analyzed the property market from 1996 till now.
I only have this to say, although prices are at an all time high and prime good sized apartments are out of reach of most Singaporeans, properties will continue their upward trend.
Which segment? I say the OCR and RCR segments still have legs to run. Any launches <S$1000 psf will be a sellout.
Sit tight and enjoy the ride folks. I will prompt everyone again when it is time to cash out.
Everyone with a house to their name dun worry.
Those with multiple properties panicking at the URA figures showing 0.x% price growth dun worry.
Everyone who bought this year or even just bought last weekend dun worry.
I have analyzed the property market from 1996 till now.
I only have this to say, although prices are at an all time high and prime good sized apartments are out of reach of most Singaporeans, properties will continue their upward trend.
Which segment? I say the OCR and RCR segments still have legs to run. Any launches <S$1000 psf will be a sellout.
Sit tight and enjoy the ride folks. I will prompt everyone again when it is time to cash out.
Errm... u are a newbie, can we trust u?
Errm... u are a newbie, can we trust u?
Mr B opposite, maybe the other half.
it's good to be optimistic but pls use data and evidence to support your analysis. at least Mr B cut and paste news (however unreliable they are) from all over the shop to support his arguments. LOL.
if you ask me, all properties have leg to run if we are looking at 10-20 years time. as for from now till 2015, property will be flat, or downhill from 2013 onwards. reason being simple, like everyone else is saying - supply > demand by 2015.
if one wants to invest now, go for CCR now. CCR is definitely undervalued.
phantom_opera
20-08-12, 07:28
Beg to differ, dun touch ccr or landed, only mm can make decent return and less risky within next 5y
Beg to differ, dun touch ccr or landed, only mm can make decent return and less risky within next 5y
OCR is another one can be invested to..:D
my take is when psf hit $1k about everywhere...tipping point is near:o
or a proxy when stock hit 3300-3400:D
phantom_opera
20-08-12, 09:58
For next few years only yield play, hardly any cap appreciation potential fir big units, u will be lucky to get 7 pc return next 5y if u buy this year, boring will be the name of the game .. In hokkien ai si busy si ai chiong buay chiong
inflation will remain high but return mostly negative after inflation
Beg to differ, dun touch ccr or landed, only mm can make decent return and less risky within next 5y
Only MMs in RCR and OCR?
for own stay, buy anything you like.
for investment, govt already built in safety net with 60% ltv so will almost never kena margin call, so buy anything you reckon is leaseable. if bank willing to loan you, the asset probably can ride out tough times.
our govt and banks are our trusted nannies. no scared. just buy.
even mediacorp bros and sis and Olympic medal winner also endorse buying. don't wait liao. now is even better time to buy since everyone says so... when everyone think it is, so it will be.
I beg to differ. Still need to be prudent.
for own stay, buy anything you like.
for investment, govt already built in safety net with 60% ltv so will almost never kena margin call, so buy anything you reckon is leaseable. if bank willing to loan you, the asset probably can ride out tough times.
our govt and banks are our trusted nannies. no scared. just buy.
even mediacorp bros and sis and Olympic medal winner also endorse buying. don't wait liao. now is even better time to buy since everyone says so... when everyone think it is, so it will be.
for own stay, buy anything you like.
for investment, govt already built in safety net with 60% ltv so will almost never kena margin call, so buy anything you reckon is leaseable. if bank willing to loan you, the asset probably can ride out tough times.
our govt and banks are our trusted nannies. no scared. just buy.
even mediacorp bros and sis and Olympic medal winner also endorse buying. don't wait liao. now is even better time to buy since everyone says so... when everyone think it is, so it will be.
There are a lot more first timers with 80% LTV. There are also a lot more people with second loan at 60% LTV and servicing their first loan at 80% LTV.
Property investment is for long term so there is a need to be prudent. Prudent means the ability to hold on to the property when price comes down, interest rate goes up or when you loose your job. WIth these three elements addressed, you are in the best position to invest in real estate.
The property market is too distorted to use history or conventional thinking to predict.
Never had we so much cheap money and high inflation.
Never had we in the mist of US and Europe crisis yet achieving new high for properties.
Never had we gone through so many CMs to subpress market.
Never had we open our door so wide to FTs and shortages of HDB as a result.
What will bring this market down? What you think that might, may not be.
It may yet be something we never expect.
Cooling measures may yet one day be reversed and that, perhaps, will balance things up in the future?
Its equally dangerous to stay safe. Knowing money is eroding away at a rate of 4-5% every year.
A lot of people will be poorer for sure. Hence, has to keep creating wealth especially for those future generation.
The property market is too distorted to use history or conventional thinking to predict.
Never had we so much cheap money and high inflation.
Never had we in the mist of US and Europe crisis yet achieving new high for properties.
Never had we gone through so many CMs to subpress market.
Never had we open our door so wide to FTs and shortages of HDB as a result.
What will bring this market down? What you think that might, may not be.
It may yet be something we never expect.
Cooling measures may yet one day be reversed and that, perhaps, will balance things up in the future?
Its equally dangerous to stay safe. Knowing money is eroding away at a rate of 4-5% every year.
Already repeated 1000x.... whatever....landed property will crash.....they can shout whatever price they want to sell.....stop buying.......
landed property will down >50% before 2015, stop buying landed property & landed property is on it's way down
The reason why I'm saying that... cos I had missed the Q1 2009 Landed Boat.. :D
The property market is too distorted to use history or conventional thinking to predict.
Never had we so much cheap money and high inflation.
Never had we in the mist of US and Europe crisis yet achieving new high for properties.
Never had we gone through so many CMs to subpress market.
Never had we open our door so wide to FTs and shortages of HDB as a result.
What will bring this market down? What you think that might, may not be.
It may yet be something we never expect.
Cooling measures may yet one day be reversed and that, perhaps, will balance things up in the future?
Its equally dangerous to stay safe. Knowing money is eroding away at a rate of 4-5% every year.
Whatever the environment is, property investment is for long term so there is a need to be prudent. Prudent means the ability to hold on to the property when price comes down, interest rate goes up or when you loose your job. WIth these three elements addressed, you are in the best position to invest in real estate.
phantom_opera
20-08-12, 13:18
TOP STORY
China new-home prices rise in more cities
CHINA'S July housing data showed that prices of new homes rose in the largest number of cities in 14 months, as sentiment improved after interest rate cuts and incentives for first-time buyers.
=> damn scary, so much control, price can still go up
TOP STORY
China new-home prices rise in more cities
CHINA'S July housing data showed that prices of new homes rose in the largest number of cities in 14 months, as sentiment improved after interest rate cuts and incentives for first-time buyers.
=> damn scary, so much control, price can still go up
Need to know how much money they print. If they print a lot than the prices of new homes go down not up.
Need to know how much money they print. If they print a lot than the prices of new homes go down not up.
Huh? First time I am hearing this. What is the economic rationale? With more liquidity in the system, ceteris paribus, why would prices come down? :confused:
Need to know how much money they print. If they print a lot than the prices of new homes go down not up.
NB! I just can't stop laughing.. :D
phantom_opera
20-08-12, 20:50
Arcachon probably sold his SouthBank and joins Mr B now :D
my last post was satire... In case many of you don't realise. lol
Already repeated 1000x.... whatever....landed property will crash.....they can shout whatever price they want to sell.....stop buying.......
landed property will down >50% before 2015, stop buying landed property & landed property is on it's way down
The reason why I'm saying that... cos I had missed the Q1 2009 Landed Boat.. :D
don't like that leh... i invested another landed this year leh...:D
shout others like OCR, CCR lah..hokay?
PropertyNewbie
21-08-12, 12:41
don't like that leh... i invested another landed this year leh...:D
shout others like OCR, CCR lah..hokay?
Good for you!
Not to worry, severe land shortage for landed developments will see your landed go up another 10-15% by end of this year.
The market is awash with cheap money, and the market will run up again after the 7th month. Watch out for sellout launches at mass market OCR like Riversails which is launching in Sept.
Must buy more properties to boost up the Singapore economics :D !
Need to know how much money they print. If they print a lot than the prices of new homes go down not up.
Sorry for not ending my sentence with example.
June 2006, with about 100,000 cash. Brought a 2 Bedroom for 535,000.
2 Bedroom TOP May 2010 rent out for about 48,000 a year.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=358211&page=84
May 2011 after CSC buy another for 1305800.
The price look like went up but I only have 100,000 cash and I buy 2 property, to me over printing of money cause the property price to go down for those who buy earlier.:cheers1:
Waiting for Ben to announce QE3.:cheers4: to buy another one.
P.S still holding Southbank for the magic offer of 1535000 and still collecting rental.
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phantom_opera
22-08-12, 07:51
[SINGAPORE] Demand for NTUC Income's inaugural bond issue was so red hot yesterday, it received a stunning $9 billion, a 15 times subscription, for the $600 million 15-year bonds. That was the biggest order ever received for a Singdollar bond issue as local entities competed with private investors for a slice of the deal.
"It's an amazing deal! Biggest book (order) size ever for a Singdollar bond deal," said a surprised and very pleased Clifford Lee, DBS head of fixed income, on the strong demand.
NTUC Income, Singapore's largest insurer with two million policyholders, yesterday said it sold $600 million callable subordinated tier 2 notes with a 3.65 per cent coupon for its debut issue.
The cooperative, formed in 1970 as part of the labour movement's mission to make insurance affordable to the masses said it is taking advantage of the current low interest rate environment to raise capital for long-term use.
Sorry for not ending my sentence with example.
June 2006, with about 100,000 cash. Brought a 2 Bedroom for 535,000.
2 Bedroom TOP May 2010 rent out for about 48,000 a year.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=358211&page=84
May 2011 after CSC buy another for 1305800.
The price look like went up but I only have 100,000 cash and I buy 2 property, to me over printing of money cause the property price to go down for those who buy earlier.:cheers1:
Waiting for Ben to announce QE3.:cheers4: to buy another one.
P.S still holding Southbank for the magic offer of 1535000 and still collecting rental.
P.S. 5 Room HDB also collecting rental, waiting for the magic offer of 1,000,000.:sleep:
P.S. 5 Room HDB also collecting rental, waiting for the magic offer of 1,000,000.:sleep:
coming soon in meantime..just..:sleep::sleep::sleep:collect rent
phantom_opera
30-10-12, 14:14
TOKYO - The Bank of Japan on Tuesday launched US$138 billion in further monetary easing as it looks to boost the country's slowing economy, following similar moves by US and European central bankers.
The BoJ said it would expand an asset-purchase programme - its main policy tool - by 11 trillion yen (US$138 billion) to 91 trillion yen, while keeping rates unchanged at zero to 0.1 per cent. - AFP
=> US debt goes up by 120b in one month already, what is USD138b :rolleyes:
TOKYO - The Bank of Japan on Tuesday launched US$138 billion in further monetary easing as it looks to boost the country's slowing economy, following similar moves by US and European central bankers.
The BoJ said it would expand an asset-purchase programme - its main policy tool - by 11 trillion yen (US$138 billion) to 91 trillion yen, while keeping rates unchanged at zero to 0.1 per cent. - AFP
=> US debt goes up by 120b in one month already, what is USD138b :rolleyes:
Phantom : You know where these billions are going to ? I wanted to borrow a few hundred millions to buy properties in Sg leh ...
DKSG
Phantom : You know where these billions are going to ? I wanted to borrow a few hundred millions to buy properties in Sg leh ...
DKSG
The last time I ask the bank they give me 6 years to pay up with LTV 40%.
phantom_opera
08-02-13, 07:02
US Fed holds 41% of the 30y Treasury bonds issued since 2009
In Feb 2013, Fed will buy 75% of new 30y Treasury supply
... another 25% are probably US retirement funds lol
US FED now work like Freddie Mac.. buying all the junk bonds...
At a rate of 85 Billion USD a month.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/8b54404c-55d2-11e2-9aa1-00144feab49a.html#axzz2KHpaHhlT
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