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mi5mi6
31-07-12, 12:31
Gambir Ridge

Freehold and mins to Bartley MRT.

http://property-in-singapore.biz/new-homes-condominium/gambir-ridge-bartley-rd-district-19-condo-for-sale-by-tiong-aik-group

UltimateAro888
31-07-12, 20:39
Gambir Ridge

Freehold and mins to Bartley MRT.

http://property-in-singapore.biz/new-homes-condominium/gambir-ridge-bartley-rd-district-19-condo-for-sale-by-tiong-aik-group

Photos seem to be showing integrated with some shops as well ?

bargain hunter
28-08-12, 10:52
tiong aik targets launch in 3Q 2012. that means by next month?

ZeeWee
29-08-12, 09:02
Gambir Ridge info just out, fresh from oven

http://sgnewcondolaunch.com/sale/gambir-ridge/

Target preview date is end Sept

Proper good size units.. good land size also and near mrt

DC33_2008
29-08-12, 09:16
What is a "guest" room? Do they mean like a utility room or without door?

carbuncle
29-08-12, 09:17
Will this prove to be a Gamble? If so, will it be a win or lose?

ZeeWee
29-08-12, 09:21
What is a "guest" room? Do they mean like a utility room or without door?

Should have proper door & window.. floorplans not out yet.. so will update u guys again when available

DC33_2008
29-08-12, 09:26
Guess 1+1 bedder could be selling at $1700-1800psf and the larger unit at $1400-$1500. TA will give some discounts.

ysyap
30-08-12, 07:57
Guess 1+1 bedder could be selling at $1700-1800psf and the larger unit at $1400-$1500. TA will give some discounts.$1800 psf for small units is pretty steep man... $1500 for larger units is :scared-4:.

ZeeWee
30-08-12, 08:50
*update*

average psf $1450 therabout

DC33_2008
30-08-12, 08:59
Look at FH Katong Regency. This place may not be as good as KR. Gives it 20% discount of KR. Looking at $1600psf for MM.

Street Name

Tanjong Katong Road

Property Type

Private Residential

Tenure

Freehold

District / Planning Area

D15 / Geylang

Completion

Uncompleted

Number of units

244 units

Indicative price range / Average*

$1,245 - $2,009 psf / $1,673 psf

Indicative rental range / Median^

-

Implied rental yield

-

Historical high

$2,009 psf in Jun 2012 for a 581-sqft unit



$1800 psf for small units is pretty steep man... $1500 for larger units is :scared-4:.

ZeeWee
30-08-12, 12:48
*More updates*

http://sgnewcondolaunch.com/sale/gambir-ridge/

Just gotten the price estimation from developer side ranging from $1250-1550psf

Sizes of some of the units changed as well with more info received

ysyap
31-08-12, 06:36
Look at FH Katong Regency. This place may not be as good as KR. Gives it 20% discount of KR. Looking at $1600psf for MM.

Street Name

Tanjong Katong Road

Property Type

Private Residential

Tenure

Freehold

District / Planning Area

D15 / Geylang

Completion

Uncompleted

Number of units

244 units

Indicative price range / Average*

$1,245 - $2,009 psf / $1,673 psf

Indicative rental range / Median^

-

Implied rental yield

-

Historical high

$2,009 psf in Jun 2012 for a 581-sqft unitGood or no good location is always relative... I prefer to compare with the projects in this area. Other than SkyH which is considered by many a misfit in price, few or no other projects (can't be completely sure though) are demanding $1800 psf... :rolleyes:

ysyap
31-08-12, 06:37
*More updates*

http://sgnewcondolaunch.com/sale/gambir-ridge/

Just gotten the price estimation from developer side ranging from $1250-1550psf

Sizes of some of the units changed as well with more info receivedThis price range would probably allow a second look... :)

ZeeWee
01-09-12, 09:30
http://sgnewcondolaunch.com/sale/gambir-ridge/

*more updates*

stack number, size, unit type and which unit face road/landed

More to come

yowetan
01-09-12, 09:51
It is resonably priced however it does not come with a good primary school in nearby.

pinkpolkadot
01-09-12, 10:04
It is resonably priced however it does not come with a good primary school in nearby.

Maris Stella not good enough in your opinion?

yowetan
01-09-12, 12:55
Maris Stella not good enough in your opinion?

Hi. I am looking for good Primary school. Maris Stella is a high school?

ZeeWee
01-09-12, 19:50
Hi. I am looking for good Primary school. Maris Stella is a high school?

Maris Stella both primary & secondary are located in the same compound fyi

Pynchmail
01-09-12, 20:30
Maris Stella not good enough in your opinion?

It is a good school.

ysyap
01-09-12, 20:38
If its for girl? This place can hit Cedar Pri or not? I know it is not within 1km from PLMGPS...

ZeeWee
01-09-12, 20:41
If its for girl? This place can hit Cedar Pri or not? I know it is not within 1km from PLMGPS...

Cedar is about 0.92km.. so just nice.. if no error la..

yowetan
01-09-12, 21:47
Maris Stella both primary & secondary are located in the same compound fyi

It is good if they are in same compound. Being said, what is the standing of Maris Stella primary?

UltimateAro888
02-09-12, 16:37
Per sqf look only slightly higher than bartley residence although it is free hold. If course distance nit so near to mrt compared to bartley residence. Wonder what maintenance fee like w Just 77 UNITS.....

hyenergix
02-09-12, 20:57
This price range would probably allow a second look... :)

Not for faint-hearted:

1 + Guest 17 570 to 732 $850k onwards ($1500+ psf)
2 Bedroom 30 710 to 904 $1mil+/- ($1400+ psf)

FH near MRT is commanding a premium.

carbuncle
02-09-12, 21:08
If this is the price, next time te plot beside the mrt near SPCA will hit 1700psf???

hyenergix
02-09-12, 21:11
If this is the price, next time te plot beside the mrt near SPCA will hit 1700psf???

That plot is 99LH that is also from Hong Leong? It should be priced slightly above Bartley Residences. The Bidadari area is experiencing a boom, thanks to new town development in 2015, proximity to international schools and town. $1700 psf for high floor greenery facing is not surprising.

Kanarazu
02-09-12, 21:54
It's about 335m walking distance to the nearest MRT entrance (5 min), but where are the nearest amenities?

hyenergix
02-09-12, 22:04
It's about 335m walking distance to the nearest MRT entrance (5 min), but where are the nearest amenities?

This one got to wait. Chances are they will be built near the MRT stations once Bidadari is up.

ysyap
03-09-12, 07:50
Not for faint-hearted:

1 + Guest 17 570 to 732 $850k onwards ($1500+ psf)
2 Bedroom 30 710 to 904 $1mil+/- ($1400+ psf)

FH near MRT is commanding a premium.Think of it this way... FH near MRT deserves a slight premium? Then again after Thomson line is completed, there will be more and more FH near MRT which are not in CCR... :rolleyes:

webber
03-09-12, 18:13
you can also visit Gambir Ridge | Bartley (http://www.gambirridge-bartley.com) website

http://gambirridge-bartley.com/gambirridgewebsite.jpg

ysyap
03-09-12, 19:13
Swimming pool located at the top floor should be very exclusive coz its mostly landed around and nobody can see you taking a leisure swim... :cheers1:

Kenshinto80
03-09-12, 21:30
Swimming pool located at the top floor should be very exclusive coz its mostly landed around and nobody can see you taking a leisure swim... :cheers1:
Swimming pool at the top is actually very bad fengshui. Residents underneath drowning.

ysyap
03-09-12, 22:09
Swimming pool at the top is actually very bad fengshui. Residents underneath drowning.Good to know. So this developer don't bother about Fengshui, I guess!!! :)

UltimateAro888
03-09-12, 22:10
Swimming pool at the top is actually very bad fengshui. Residents underneath drowning.

Oh...then people in HDB all gone liao.. BIG watertank on top.:doh:

Kanarazu
03-09-12, 22:22
Swimming pool at the top is actually very bad fengshui. Residents underneath drowning.

And what about marina bay sands :)

KTKW
04-09-12, 07:00
And what about marina bay sands :)

lol... 70 + levels of people drowning ?

anyway, paiseh.. this is my website.. tell me if there is anything i can improve..

http://gambir-ridge-condo.info/

Kanarazu
04-09-12, 09:13
lol... 70 + levels of people drowning ?

anyway, paiseh.. this is my website.. tell me if there is anything i can improve..

http://gambir-ridge-condo.info/

Maybe the fengshui is designed in favor of the hotel/casino and not the hotel/casino guests.

Kanarazu
04-09-12, 10:37
lol... 70 + levels of people drowning ?

anyway, paiseh.. this is my website.. tell me if there is anything i can improve..

http://gambir-ridge-condo.info/

KTKW, saw your website and have a question on the walking distance to serangoon MRT, can you actually cut across the field of St Gabriel's?

wacko
04-09-12, 13:59
KTKW, saw your website and have a question on the walking distance to serangoon MRT, can you actually cut across the field of St Gabriel's?

don't have to cut across (you can't anyway, school compounds are generally not accessible to public), you can circumnavigate the east perimeter, and cut through the HDB estate to get to the MRT entrance. probably a 7 to 8 minute walk.

ZeeWee
04-09-12, 15:24
don't have to cut across (you can't anyway, school compounds are generally not accessible to public), you can circumnavigate the east perimeter, and cut through the HDB estate to get to the MRT entrance. probably a 7 to 8 minute walk.

The reason why the line was drawn there is because there is a small park just beside the school, thats why can cut across.

Hope that clarifies :D

Kanarazu
04-09-12, 15:49
The reason why the line was drawn there is because there is a small park just beside the school, thats why can cut across.

Hope that clarifies :D

Thanks for the clarification. Judging by the distance it should be 8 min to serangoon MRT or 10 min to NEX. Still quite walkable.

Kenshinto80
04-09-12, 21:05
Oh...then people in HDB all gone liao.. BIG watertank on top.:doh:
Water tank does not cover whole length of HDB for your information. There was a case whereby a body found inside n HDB change the tank n it was illustrated in newspaper how big the tank was. You can also look up dictionary for difference between swimming pool and water tank :tsk-tsk:

http://ezinearticles.com/?Feng-Shui-and-Swimming-Pools&id=1530938

CondoInterested
05-09-12, 22:29
Merge http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=292442&postcount=1 31 Jul 2012 with http://forums.condosingapore.com/showpost.php?p=272641&postcount=1 19 May 2012
The show flat is up.

ZeeWee
07-09-12, 15:24
Looks like developer wants to sell out Gambir Ridge in 1 day!

Psf adjusted lower!

Will be making the changes this evening.. Expect at least $50psf lower compared to what I quoted earlier

http://sgnewcondolaunch.com/sale/gambir-ridge/

ysyap
07-09-12, 15:26
Looks like developer wants to sell out Gambir Ridge in 1 day!

Psf adjusted lower!

Will be making the changes this evening.. Expect at least $50psf lower compared to what I quoted earlier

http://sgnewcondolaunch.com/sale/gambir-ridge/This is good news for prospective buyers! They probably figured out that their asking must match Bartley R which is not selling like hotcakes!!! Lol!

Kanarazu
09-09-12, 23:46
Floor plans:
http://www.gambirridge.com.sg/gambir-ridge-floorplans.htm

bargain hunter
10-09-12, 10:11
thanks for the link. :)

the floor plans seriously cannot make it leh. maximise profit at expense of buyers type of layout. giant balconies and a/c ledge, rooms small small. :ashamed1:


Floor plans:
http://www.gambirridge.com.sg/gambir-ridge-floorplans.htm

iridrium
10-09-12, 13:45
the floor plans seriously cannot make it leh. maximise profit at expense of buyers type of layout. giant balconies and a/c ledge, rooms small small. :ashamed1:

Looks quite alright to me. In fact, I am quite impress that the 2 bedder has a yard! Now, try to find me a two bedder that comes with a yard among all the new development.

The layout are all squarish and generally north south facing. IMO, not too bad at all.

Kanarazu
10-09-12, 14:47
Looks quite alright to me. In fact, I am quite impress that the 2 bedder has a yard! Now, try to find me a two bedder that comes with a yard among all the new development.

The layout are all squarish and generally north south facing. IMO, not too bad at all.

I am surprised too to see a yard which is rare for 2 bedders. For me a good floor plan has to be human-centric, ie optimally sized to cater for adequate walkway eg 780mm wide walking path except maybe for rarely accessible areas in bedrooms. Any excess floor space on top of such walking space should be optimized for standard furniture layout. Living room areas should be 900mm or 1200mm wide if possible.

carbuncle
10-09-12, 15:04
Do you mean mm or cm?

bargain hunter
10-09-12, 15:06
wouldn't it be better if they reduced the size of the balconies (relative to the total size of the units)? developer is quite simply, greedy.

Kanarazu
10-09-12, 15:11
Do you mean mm or cm?

Sorry I mean mm for width of walking area. Eg if living/dining room is 3m wide you can have a 600mm deep cabinet, a 1.5m long dining table and still have at least 780mm walkway.

Kanarazu
10-09-12, 15:14
wouldn't it be better if they reduced the size of the balconies (relative to the total size of the units)? developer is quite simply, greedy.

Since bonus GFA for balcony is 10% of max GFA, if the average balcony space per unit is more than 10% then the developer is trying to maximize profit by cutting construction cost isnt it? Or to achieve a lower 'perceived' psf for better sales.

carbuncle
10-09-12, 15:26
I meant if you are referring to MM shoeboxes in general or CM cooling measures to further control walkway widths! wakakakaka

Kanarazu
10-09-12, 15:32
I meant if you are referring to MM shoeboxes in general or CM cooling measures to further control walkway widths! wakakakaka

Haha...There are no CM measures that I know of. And I'm referring to floor plans in general, not specific to MM.

Kenshinto80
10-09-12, 22:02
Floor plans:
http://www.gambirridge.com.sg/gambir-ridge-floorplans.htm
Thanks for the URL. I think Bartley Residences unit bigger and better. Nearer MRT. Much much better buy than this. Too cramped.

ysyap
10-09-12, 22:20
Thanks for the URL. I think Bartley Residences unit bigger and better. Nearer MRT. Much much better buy than this. Too cramped.Agreed. The 4 bedders actually only has one room that can house a queen size bed. The other 3 rooms are miserable in size! The a/c ledge is simply HUGE, along with the balcony! :doh:

Kanarazu
11-09-12, 06:55
Thanks for the URL. I think Bartley Residences unit bigger and better. Nearer MRT. Much much better buy than this. Too cramped.

I compared 2 bedders between 700 and 800 sq ft across several new developments such as Bartley Residences, Casa Cambio and Gambir Ridge and noticed the following patterns:
1. All have at least 870mm wide walkway from main door into kitchen area and all bedroom entrances.
2. Distance between sofa and tv console at least 2 x 780mm. Bartley Residences is more generous here.
3. In bedrooms with queen size bed, at least 2 sides of the bed can have a walkway 780mm wide
4. In bedrooms with single bed, at least 1 side of the bed can have a walkway 780mm wide.
5. All beds have another side (besides pts 4 an 5) that offers minimal walkway such as 500mm. Note in smaller developments such as One Dusun with 600+ floor space this walkway may be missing.

The key thing is after setting aside space for walkways how much space is there really left for placement of furniture. When owners start to place furnitures that eats into and constricts these walkways then that's where crampiness can be felt.

bakasa2002
11-09-12, 15:49
Agreed. The 4 bedders actually only has one room that can house a queen size bed. The other 3 rooms are miserable in size! The a/c ledge is simply HUGE, along with the balcony! :doh:

Same here, first thing I notice is the balcony even for the 1+1, I rather have a bigger living/dining space then have 2 balconies. :)

ZeeWee
11-09-12, 18:01
http://sgnewcondolaunch.com/sale/gambir-ridge/

Kanarazu
11-09-12, 18:22
http://sgnewcondolaunch.com/sale/gambir-ridge/

Wow... $1493psf for 2 bedder...

yantao
19-09-12, 01:08
Wow... $1493psf for 2 bedder...

Heard there are vvvip preview discount of about 20%.
Launching this Friday.

UltimateAro888
19-09-12, 07:40
Heard there are vvvip preview discount of about 20%.
Launching this Friday.

Usually mark up then give discount... so net net same.

yantao
19-09-12, 09:04
Usually mark up then give discount... so net net same.

Very true. Bartley residences selling avg $1300 psf.
Normally can freehold command about 20% premium?

DC33_2008
19-09-12, 09:14
It will be an exciting weekend with a number of projects launching besides this one. Eco is launching too.

Kanarazu
19-09-12, 09:14
Very true. Bartley residences selling avg $1300 psf.
Normally can freehold command about 20% premium?

Most LH when launched already 98 years left. When TOP probably 95 years, which is equivalent of 95.6% of freehold value. Freehold should at least command that 5% extra...Maybe market prices it at a higher percentage since FH land is inherently scarce.

UltimateAro888
19-09-12, 17:25
FH/99 no difference. When garment want it, u still have to move.:banghead:

Anyway, freehold no meaning when u dont own the land...

Beside, never hear condo exists after 100 years old..

Kanarazu
19-09-12, 20:27
FH/99 no difference. When garment want it, u still have to move.:banghead:

Anyway, freehold no meaning when u dont own the land...

Beside, never hear condo exists after 100 years old..

I think the main difference is the value received by seller during collective sales since the amount takes into account depreciation of the land lease. At some point in time like you said the building will not exist 100 years and will be redeveloped.

yantao
19-09-12, 22:03
I think the main difference is the value received by seller during collective sales since the amount takes into account depreciation of the land lease. At some point in time like you said the building will not exist 100 years and will be redeveloped.
When a property reaches 50 yrs, it's time to enbloc. For 99 LH, developer will have to consider that there is only 40+ yrs left and they will need to top-up with the govt to bring it back to 99 yrs. The top-up amount will be factored into the final offer from the developer. As the land gets more valuable over time, the top-up amount will increase due to inflation over past 50yrs.

For FH, the developer doesn't need to bother since there will be about 940+ yrs to go.

From renting perspective, people doesn't care about 99LH or FH. They need the condo to be near MRT, public transportation and affordable.

Kenshinto80
20-09-12, 00:57
When a property reaches 50 yrs, it's time to enbloc. For 99 LH, developer will have to consider that there is only 40+ yrs left and they will need to top-up with the govt to bring it back to 99 yrs. The top-up amount will be factored into the final offer from the developer. As the land gets more valuable over time, the top-up amount will increase due to inflation over past 50yrs.

For FH, the developer doesn't need to bother since there will be about 940+ yrs to go.

From renting perspective, people doesn't care about 99LH or FH. They need the condo to be near MRT, public transportation and affordable.

Hi Mate, there is a slight difference between Freehold and Leasehold 999 definition actually.

Talking about the classical theory of leasehold via Freehold, you wld be right. But in real life, it's all about the location. I hold the extreme view that FH or LH99 does not matter these days. Why pay the so call premium even if it does exist. I say it before and I say it again, it's about location. Example, 99yr LH next to MRT.

bargain hunter
21-09-12, 00:41
http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_78E376DDC29A24B848257A7F002FE2DA/$file/TACorp_Preview_of_Gambir_Ridge.pdf?openelement (http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_78E376DDC29A24B848257A7F002FE2DA/$file/TACorp_Preview_of_Gambir_Ridge.pdf?openelement)

how come this thread so quiet? :confused:

carbuncle
21-09-12, 09:48
all quietly bought up every single unit liao!!!

carbuncle
21-09-12, 09:49
supposedly only 6xx m to nex!

bargain hunter
21-09-12, 09:59
really? anyone gone down to witness the action? :)



all quietly bought up every single unit liao!!!

DC33_2008
21-09-12, 10:07
It is at least more like 3 times of 600m. :scared-5:
supposedly only 6xx m to nex!

Kanarazu
21-09-12, 10:18
supposedly only 6xx m to nex!

About 760m to walk to Nex...10-11 minutes walk lor..

bargain hunter
21-09-12, 11:04
ta corp's share price suddenly accelerated upwards in past 15mins, all sold out? :D

carbuncle
21-09-12, 11:24
mostly those landed owners nearby eyeing for investment

how many units only.... sure snapped up double quick time

cnud
21-09-12, 12:59
>100 cheques for 77 units..

Kanarazu
21-09-12, 14:40
Heard 2BR going for up to $1530 psf :p

azeoprop
21-09-12, 14:48
1530psf !! :doh: :scared-1: :scared-3:

Vincegoh
21-09-12, 15:32
1530psf !! :doh: :scared-1: :scared-3:
Got 20% vvip preview discount right? If so, 1224 Psf is quite cheap?

ysyap
21-09-12, 17:00
$1224psf is decent but nearby Bartley R also going for close to that price tag and not moving as expected!!! :beats-me-man:

ZeeWee
21-09-12, 17:11
Left around 9 units

dtrax
21-09-12, 17:20
$1224psf is decent but nearby Bartley R also going for close to that price tag and not moving as expected!!! :beats-me-man:

why? quantum larger?

carbuncle
21-09-12, 17:57
no ice cream?

dtrax
21-09-12, 18:01
no ice cream?

full sell out then ice-cream.. 9 left over out of 77 units is sup sup water

price
21-09-12, 19:04
full sell out then ice-cream.. 9 left over out of 77 units is sup sup water
omg so fast!? when was it even launched?

ZeeWee
21-09-12, 19:08
omg so fast!? when was it even launched?

This morning around 10? U din received news from your agent (assuming u have one)

3 & 4 bedroom all taken

Kanarazu
21-09-12, 19:11
Got 20% vvip preview discount right? If so, 1224 Psf is quite cheap?

So what was the actual transacted price, anyone knows?

price
21-09-12, 19:17
This morning around 10? U din received news from your agent (assuming u have one)

3 & 4 bedroom all taken

wow thats really fast! nope, no agents

dtrax
21-09-12, 20:08
wow thats really fast! nope, no agents

Gunbattle! Gambir Ridge

ZeeWee
22-09-12, 15:16
Last 2 units of 2 BR PH left.. showflat closing soon i guess

more action next week at Kovan Regency!

cnud
22-09-12, 16:20
Agents swinging buyers to Bartley and Kovan Regency from Gambir.

Heard the comms for Bartley better than Kovan... hmm...:rolleyes:

dunatos
22-09-12, 22:26
Agents swinging buyers to Bartley and Kovan Regency from Gambir.

Heard the comms for Bartley better than Kovan... hmm...:rolleyes:

Is it because it is larger development?

bakasa2002
23-09-12, 00:02
Selling 75/77 in 2 days? What's the avg Psf after discount for this proj?

Kanarazu
23-09-12, 01:38
Selling 75/77 in 2 days? What's the avg Psf after discount for this proj?

Reporter2 in the other thread quotes business times as "above $1400psf"

radha08
23-09-12, 07:42
Reporter2 in the other thread quotes business times as "above $1400psf"

now 1400 upon top 1800:cheers5:

ysyap
23-09-12, 07:52
now 1400 upon top 1800:cheers5:Provided no recession then!!! ;)

ZeeWee
23-09-12, 20:17
SOLD OUT!

Another successful sellout by Huttons :D

Wonder what will be the result for Kovan Regency be next sat..

Btw Stellar RV left 2 units.. selling out too~

Kanarazu
23-09-12, 20:27
SOLD OUT!

Another successful sellout by Huttons :D

Wonder what will be the result for Kovan Regency be next sat..

Btw Stellar RV left 2 units.. selling out too~

I think it will sell very well, but will developer adjust the indicative pricing upwards during balloting?

ZeeWee
23-09-12, 22:29
I think it will sell very well, but will developer adjust the indicative pricing upwards during balloting?

price wont change much from indicative ba.. so far no news that its really overwhelming response like 10 cheques to 1 unit..

doubt developer will risk increasing the price and end up nobody buy and become another SH