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hyenergix
21-06-12, 21:40
How eh? I don't have the touch and go card and do we need to fill in the white card?

richwang
21-06-12, 21:58
No need to fill in the white card any more. So better check the passport stamp is there.
If you don't have Touch and Go, try to use the left lane. You can buy a card on the spot.
There is a deposit in the card (RM 10?)
The one way charge is RM 13? So if you buy RM 30 card, there will only be RM 7 usable money left. You need to top up again.

So buy RM 50 touch and go. (They don't sell RM 40?) You will have enough money for touch and go when u come back.

Petrol is cheaper there. And the 2/3 tank rule is not very strictly enforced in Singapore. But to be safe, get there with more than 1/2 tank.

Enjoy!
Richard

hyenergix
21-06-12, 21:59
No need to fill in the white card any more. Just double check the passport stamp .
If you don't have Touch and Go, try to use the left lane. You can buy a card on the spot.
There is a deposit in the card (RM 10?)
The one way charge is RM 13? So if you buy RM 30 card, there will only be RM 7 usable money left. You need to top up again.

So buy RM 50 touch and go. (They don't sell RM 40?) You will have enough money for touch and go when u come back.

Petrol is cheaper there. And the 2/3 tank rule is not very strictly enforced in Singapore. But to be safe, get there with more than 1/2 tank.

Enjoy!
Richard

Do I have to get out of the car or I can just pass my passport to the counter-staff while sitting in the car?

roly8
21-06-12, 22:00
2nd link is a blessing..

most travel buses used it. :D

richwang
21-06-12, 22:00
Always sitting in the car.

Cheers!
Richard

hyenergix
21-06-12, 22:01
Always sitting in the car.

Cheers!
Richard

Good. Thanks.

richwang
21-06-12, 22:03
You can also take bus from Jurong East MRT. The frequency is high - about 5 to 10 minutes interval.

Thanks,
Richard

richwang
21-06-12, 22:04
Singapore side uses cash card.

hyenergix
21-06-12, 22:08
Singapore side uses cash card.

Yup. Going in tomorrow around 12pm and coming out around 3pm. Hopefully it will not jam.

hyenergix
21-06-12, 22:10
You can also take bus from Jurong East MRT. The frequency is high - about 5 to 10 minutes interval.

Thanks,
Richard

Which buses, how long is the journey (to Bk Indah?) and how much eh?

richwang
21-06-12, 22:11
Friday 3pm is getting risky. Mainly Singapore side, checking is very detail and thus slow.
The worst is Monday morning, always jam - can be 1 hour.

The worst jam my friend had was 4 hours during a public holiday.

Good luck!

hyenergix
21-06-12, 22:15
Friday 3pm is getting risky. Mainly Singapore side, checking is very detail and thus slow.
The worst is Monday morning, always jam.

Good luck!

So hopefully Fri 12pm is okay then. I'm reversing by coming out of JB around 3pm. I know Singaporeans and Malaysians like to go to JB on Friday late afternoon.

On Sunday is going up to JB around 3pm and returning around 5pm safe to avoid the jam?

richwang
21-06-12, 22:32
there will be no jam at 12pm. Indeed that's the time period officers are lazy to spot check the 2/3 tank.

5pm is getting jam, hopefully not too bad.

hyenergix
21-06-12, 22:38
there will be no jam at 12pm. Indeed that's the time period officers are lazy to spot check the 2/3 tank.

5pm is getting jam, hopefully not too bad.

Ok..u seem to b going up JB quite often. I think i will juz go in on sun then. Quite a lot of work to settle tmr.

zzz1
22-06-12, 09:42
Ok..u seem to b going up JB quite often. I think i will juz go in on sun then. Quite a lot of work to settle tmr.
Is school holiday now, going in and out of jb is quite unpredictable ..
U can try one motoring to the the almost live cam over the check point condition any time


http://mobile.onemotoring.com.sg/imode/traffic/traffic.i?action=view-camLoc&optLocation=CHK&uid=UIDREQUEST

hyenergix
22-06-12, 10:59
Is school holiday now, going in and out of jb is quite unpredictable ..
U can try one motoring to the the almost live cam over the check point condition any time


http://mobile.onemotoring.com.sg/imode/traffic/traffic.i?action=view-camLoc&optLocation=CHK&uid=UIDREQUEST

I c roads r quite clear. Prob pp go overseas further away.

zzz1
22-06-12, 16:43
I c roads r quite clear. Prob pp go overseas further away.
Depand on timing..., this sat, sun ending of holiday, jb side will jam...some time is because they only open 1 or 2 counters

hyenergix
22-06-12, 18:44
Depand on timing..., this sat, sun ending of holiday, jb side will jam...some time is because they only open 1 or 2 counters

Today I blur. Gave $30 sing dollar instead of RM to buy tap n go card bcoz mistaken. Forget to ask for change n drove off in a hurry.

zzz1
22-06-12, 19:59
Today I blur. Gave $30 sing dollar instead of RM to buy tap n go card bcoz mistaken. Forget to ask for change n drove off in a hurry.
Counter girl must be chu bu la....

On the same , the 50 and the 100 rm note colour is about the same.. Got to be careful as well. Some time mistake the 100rm as 50 rm, ....The counter just capitalise accordingly...

hyenergix
23-06-12, 07:30
Counter girl must be chu bu la....

On the same , the 50 and the 100 rm note colour is about the same.. Got to be careful as well. Some time mistake the 100rm as 50 rm, ....The counter just capitalise accordingly...

Yup, this incident will remind me to be more vigilant in JB. I went to Bt Indah to book a FH landed for investment and perhaps retirement next time. This area should be booming over the next few years. I wont be staying there for now though, due to safety consideration and work.

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roly8
23-06-12, 09:26
congrat!!

:D

hope i can buy when i got enough $$$

zzz1
23-06-12, 09:44
Yup, this incident will remind me to be more vigilant in JB. I went to Bt Indah to book a FH landed for investment and perhaps retirement next time. This area should be booming over the next few years. I wont be staying there for now though, due to safety consideration and work.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4948/imag1003.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/imag1003.jpg/)
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Well done, ur place near to aeon shopping centre?:D :D

hyenergix
23-06-12, 10:03
Well done, ur place near to aeon shopping centre?:D :D

1min by car :)

zzz1
23-06-12, 10:29
1min by car :)
Swee... Next time can la kopi..

richwang
23-06-12, 10:58
Congratulations!
You are not the only person who grab a unit once u see it. So nice and so affordable!
pls install some web camaras, so you can monitor your home real time from your mobile phone.

If you are not staying there, it is best to visit there once a while.

Thanks,
Richard

Laguna
23-06-12, 11:12
alamah, I went to Bt Indah yesterday as well, looking at their shops, does not look so exciting to me. Not that easy to find the place.

The Iskandar is too huge.

After that shopped at Giant, this is a small Giant, had lunch there, quite good value.

Thereafter, went to premium outlet...very disappointed.

hyenergix
23-06-12, 12:13
Congratulations!
You are not the only person who grab a unit once u see it. So nice and so affordable!
pls install some web camaras, so you can monitor your home real time from your mobile phone.

If you are not staying there, it is best to visit there once a while.

Thanks,
Richard

Yup. Will do so. Thx.

hyenergix
23-06-12, 12:15
alamah, I went to Bt Indah yesterday as well, looking at their shops, does not look so exciting to me. Not that easy to find the place.

The Iskandar is too huge.

After that shopped at Giant, this is a small Giant, had lunch there, quite good value.

Thereafter, went to premium outlet...very disappointed.

The main attraction there is act lower cost of living. Good for cheap retirement.

DC33_2008
23-06-12, 13:26
Congrats! How is the workmanship?
The main attraction there is act lower cost of living. Good for cheap retirement.

teddybear
23-06-12, 13:32
Looks like a semi-d. How much?

hyenergix
23-06-12, 14:08
Congrats! How is the workmanship?

I think it is quite good. Developer is now doing its QC b4 handing over to us in 1 mth+ time.

hyenergix
23-06-12, 14:09
Looks like a semi-d. How much?

Clustered, semi-D style. Much cheaper than my miserable 1 bedder in Singapore.

richwang
23-06-12, 17:12
If you are not a Malaysian, the lowest price of property you can buy is RM 500K.
There are continuous rumours that they will increase it to RM 1M.
A semi-D should cost around RM 800K to RM 1M now, so it is a safe bet.

I have heard so many stories like:
"it is cheaper than my HDB." or
"It is cheaper than my MM."

Great choice!

Thanks,
Richard
PS. You are also entitled to buy a car (RM 10K?) in Malaysia because you own a property.

Komo
23-06-12, 18:42
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... can put window grill? ....think buying in malaysia security design is first consideration:D

hyenergix
23-06-12, 19:33
... can put window grill? ....think buying in malaysia security design is first consideration:D

Of course. I'm putting it after TOP.

yowetan
23-06-12, 20:06
Hi hyenergix, how much is one unit now over Bukit Indah? Is your unit in Horizon hill or ?

Please advise, as I am interested too.

hyenergix
23-06-12, 21:31
Hi hyenergix, how much is one unit now over Bukit Indah? Is your unit in Horizon hill or ?

Please advise, as I am interested too.

Cheaper than 5room HDB. U can definitely afford. At Bt Indah area.

richwang
23-06-12, 21:53
My friends are all getting jeeps in Iskanda. The roads (in particular short cuts) are rough.

Thanks,
Richard

hyenergix
23-06-12, 21:59
My friends are all getting jeeps in Iskanda. The roads (in particular short cuts) are rough.

Thanks,
Richard

A jeep is prob more costly. I'm planning to get a J-plate small sedan to get around. My S-plate car is too prominent. Many were looking at my car when I went up there on Friday as there were fewer Singaporeans. Next time you see a J-plate car it prob also means a Singaporean is driving inside!

hyenergix
23-06-12, 22:00
Updated 07:34 PM Jun 23, 2012

SINGAPORE - Some nursing homes in Singapore have set up branches in Malaysia's Johor Bahru to cater to Singaporeans who are looking for a more affordable alternative.

At least two nursing homes have opened branches there, while another is set to open early next year.

One of them is LC private nursing home. It opened a 60-bed branch there early this year.

Patients pay about half of what others pay at its home in Singapore.

Four of its patients in Singapore have already moved to the Johor Bahru facility.

Owner of the home, Dr Tony Chia, said it is a more affordable option for those who are financially-strapped. CHANNEL NEWSASIA


http://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC120623-0000069/Singapore-nursing-homes-open-more-affordable-branches-in-JB

Komo
23-06-12, 23:17
fly Malaysia flag in front of house oso:D

kane
23-06-12, 23:58
fly Malaysia flag in front of house oso:D

Trying to tell the whole world there isn't 300 taels of silvee in your house? :D

yowetan
24-06-12, 00:07
Cheaper than 5room HDB. U can definitely afford. At Bt Indah area.

Could you share more of your exploration? Thanks.

hyenergix
24-06-12, 06:46
Could you share more of your exploration? Thanks.

There are many choices. Most are in the region of above $500k RM. Just pick one from propertyguru ;)

yowetan
24-06-12, 08:10
There are many choices. Most are in the region of above $500k RM. Just pick one from propertyguru ;)

What is the keyword to use in propertyguru search function? I only know how to search for Singapore properties.

hyenergix
24-06-12, 08:34
What is the keyword to use in propertyguru search function? I only know how to search for Singapore properties.

I can only show you the door. You need to open it yourself.

roly8
24-06-12, 09:51
A jeep is prob more costly. I'm planning to get a J-plate small sedan to get around. My S-plate car is too prominent. Many were looking at my car when I went up there on Friday as there were fewer Singaporeans. Next time you see a J-plate car it prob also means a Singaporean is driving inside!

haha! :D:D:D


:cheers4:

Laguna
24-06-12, 11:06
The supply of the cluster houses in Bt Indah is big.
Prices are cheap and so is cost of living.

Of course, u can get a BMW or Merz at the cost of our COE under the MM2H. But u cannot drive to Sg.

If u want to retire in Iskandar, there are so many choices. I will not want to retire in Bt Indah. Life is a slow, dead life.

I am thinking of perhaps buy a strait facing unit, high rise condo, but think about it, I still need to maintain a place to stay in Sg, and simply dun feel safe there. No good shopping, no good food, so nothing much to look for.

hyenergix
24-06-12, 11:16
The supply of the cluster houses in Bt Indah is big.
Prices are cheap and so is cost of living.

Of course, u can get a BMW or Merz at the cost of our COE under the MM2H. But u cannot drive to Sg.

If u want to retire in Iskandar, there are so many choices. I will not want to retire in Bt Indah. Life is a slow, dead life.

I am thinking of perhaps buy a strait facing unit, high rise condo, but think about it, I still need to maintain a place to stay in Sg, and simply dun feel safe there. No good shopping, no good food, so nothing much to look for.

Proximity to SG n amenities r top priority for me. Prices r inc as what I know from e developer n a bank at Bt Indah.

richwang
24-06-12, 11:31
I have friend with a interesting arrangement:

He hired a Malaysian to drive and fetch him to work from Iskandar everyday. It is legal for Malaysian to drive a Malaysia car in Singapore by paying daily fees. The cost of hiring the driver + the car is still cheaper than buying a car in Singapore.

Thanks,
Richard
PS. The Malaysia driver sometimes is also taking passengers from Singapore to Malaysia, that's not legal - but not my friend's problem.

kane
24-06-12, 22:30
The supply of the cluster houses in Bt Indah is big.
Prices are cheap and so is cost of living.

Of course, u can get a BMW or Merz at the cost of our COE under the MM2H. But u cannot drive to Sg.

If u want to retire in Iskandar, there are so many choices. I will not want to retire in Bt Indah. Life is a slow, dead life.

I am thinking of perhaps buy a strait facing unit, high rise condo, but think about it, I still need to maintain a place to stay in Sg, and simply dun feel safe there. No good shopping, no good food, so nothing much to look for.

You thinking of straits view? Ha.

phantom_opera
24-06-12, 22:38
Most of are used to convenience of having a shopping mall within 3 minutes walk or 5 mins by car/MRT ...where is my Food Republic? Soup Restaurant?? Dian Xiao Er? Marche?? :D

http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/image/20120621/rtdean-1.jpg

hyenergix
25-06-12, 00:23
Most of are used to convenience of having a shopping mall within 3 minutes walk or 5 mins by car/MRT ...where is my Food Republic? Soup Restaurant?? Dian Xiao Er? Marche?? :D



Come and join me where the eateries, malls, shops, banks, and entertainment center are.

Laguna
25-06-12, 10:31
I have friend with a interesting arrangement:

He hired a Malaysian to drive and fetch him to work from Iskandar everyday. It is legal for Malaysian to drive a Malaysia car in Singapore by paying daily fees. The cost of hiring the driver + the car is still cheaper than buying a car in Singapore.

Thanks,
Richard
PS. The Malaysia driver sometimes is also taking passengers from Singapore to Malaysia, that's not legal - but not my friend's problem.

My neighour better still, buy a big car under MM2H, ask the Malaysia driver he hired to drive in and out of JB.

It is so much cheaper than hiring one in Sg.

Laguna
25-06-12, 10:32
I had a long talk with a Malaysian banker about Iskandar. General advice is to avoid as there are better opportunities up north.

gg to KL to cc next week

hyenergix
25-06-12, 10:52
I had a long talk with a Malaysian banker about Iskandar. General advice is to avoid as there are better opportunities up north.

gg to KL to cc next week

Unfortunately, dist is an issue for me. Tt's y i opted JB.

hyenergix
25-06-12, 21:26
Just to confirm my earlier view that not much land bank (5%) is left at Bt Indah, particularly near where the amenities are
http://www.nst.com.my/relaunch-of-bukit-indah-town-park-1.49293

And this map says it all:
http://www.spsetia.com.my/bukit_indah_johor/master_plan.htm

Just sharing. You can choose not to believe :p

(but take care of safety if you are there hor, dun say I never warn)

Laguna
26-06-12, 10:45
We went to see the shop units there.
The project was top 2 years back, and seeing so many units still vacant....so decided not to move in.....

cost of borrowing is about 4.3%...very high and rental yield is very very poor

lajia
26-06-12, 11:01
(but take care of safety if you are there hor, dun say I never warn)

why sounds so dangerous but you still investing there? a bit contradicting...if all those "rich man" or foreigner's properties are focused in one area, wouldn't it be more dangerous??

the risk seems so high. some of my friends also have properties on the other side and most of them has stopped to visit so often than in the beginning. As some of them said, rental is really bad and not worth to rent out. But as time pass and if the take up rate is not as expected, your flame will die slowly and eventually, just like some of my friends condo or landed, some become ideal place for bird nest growing :p and some are just collecting dust. ok, anyway, they have extra money...but think for average ppl, maybe can put such money into better uses...

if dist is a concern instead of KL or Penang, then probably woodland or Jurong might be better choice as they are nearer to 2nd link and causeway...:D

just my opinion. :o

hyenergix
26-06-12, 11:04
We went to see the shop units there.
The project was top 2 years back, and seeing so many units still vacant....so decided not to move in.....

cost of borrowing is about 4.3%...very high and rental yield is very very poor

Agree shops make poor investment at e moment as there is not enough weekday crowd to sustain. The low rent helps to keep food n service prices decent there, unlike Singapore. For Bt Indah to boom, have to wait for Kota Inda n other residential proj to b more developed. I give a time frame of 3-5 years.

hyenergix
26-06-12, 11:58
why sounds so dangerous but you still investing there? a bit contradicting...if all those "rich man" or foreigner's properties are focused in one area, wouldn't it be more dangerous??

the risk seems so high. some of my friends also have properties on the other side and most of them has stopped to visit so often than in the beginning. As some of them said, rental is really bad and not worth to rent out. But as time pass and if the take up rate is not as expected, your flame will die slowly and eventually, just like some of my friends condo or landed, some become ideal place for bird nest growing :p and some are just collecting dust. ok, anyway, they have extra money...but think for average ppl, maybe can put such money into better uses...

if dist is a concern instead of KL or Penang, then probably woodland or Jurong might be better choice as they are nearer to 2nd link and causeway...:D

just my opinion. :o

There e pockets of good deal in resales in woodsland, but I hate paying all e additional stamp duties when buying n selling, n uncomfortable w 99LH status. Anyway it is not tt expensive as a holiday home. Plus I like cheap n good stuffs at JB.

DC33_2008
26-06-12, 20:33
Got a few friend who bought property in kl got burnt under the sime Darby group development in subang airport area. Still believe in proximity from Singapore. I think Malaysia property is not for rental but own stay.
I had a long talk with a Malaysian banker about Iskandar. General advice is to avoid as there are better opportunities up north.

gg to KL to cc next week

hyenergix
26-06-12, 20:38
Got a few friend who bought property in kl got burnt under the sime Darby group development in subang airport area. Still believe in proximity from Singapore. I think Malaysia property is not for rental but own stay.

The level of property boom in JB is proportional to e level of frustration in Singapore.

DC33_2008
26-06-12, 21:11
Did you take loan for your property in jb? If so, is it complicated?
The level of property boom in JB is proportional to e level of frustration in Singapore.

lajia
26-06-12, 21:13
The level of property boom in JB is proportional to e level of frustration in Singapore.

haha...the level of frustration is always there but did the property ever boom? :confused:

even their residents are not buying there (if given a choice...) and only singaporean is buying why, because it looks cheap to us but not to them...:o ask those PR from there and you will know. the property are exp here but they rather buy here. that is pretty obvious isnt it...:p

hyenergix
26-06-12, 22:18
Did you take loan for your property in jb? If so, is it complicated?

Yup, taking a small loan as I want to keep some cash for buffer. It is slightly more complicated that buying a Singapore property, as the bank will do more due diligence since it is loaning to a foreigner. The good part is the bank will do a proper valuation as the bank is more scare than the buyer who is a foreigner to them. There is no penalty for early repayment of loan.

hyenergix
26-06-12, 22:38
haha...the level of frustration is always there but did the property ever boom? :confused:

even their residents are not buying there (if given a choice...) and only singaporean is buying why, because it looks cheap to us but not to them...:o ask those PR from there and you will know. the property are exp here but they rather buy here. that is pretty obvious isnt it...:p

More Singaporeans are getting frustrated with over-crowding, inflation and biased policies (e.g court rulings that favor foreigners) and the situation will only get worse. My sense is more Singaporeans are switching over to MY for property investments and retirement.

Many Johoreans are switching to gated and guarded landed due to better security. In fact the Johoreans bought up more than half the total units at the place where I just bought. This gives greater price stability in case there is any recession as owners are less likely to fire-sale their own house in which they stay.

heehee
27-06-12, 07:47
Doesn't Malaysia has bad traffic jam at Bukit Indah, high inflation (outside coffee shop food more expensive than than SG if we ignore the currency sign), biased policies much more than SG bewteen bumi & others, very bad securities, corrupt police that can kill & burn (happened before), go anywhere also need to drive?
But then if you are >70 years old can still drive safely until what age?
Retirement maybe, investment No No? In Malaysia, safer to drive than walk to go anywhere (even if you can walk to the place in a few minutes)!


More Singaporeans are getting frustrated with over-crowding, inflation and biased policies (e.g court rulings that favor foreigners) and the situation will only get worse.

My sense is more Singaporeans are switching over to MY for property investments and retirement.

Many Johoreans are switching to gated and guarded landed due to better security. In fact the Johoreans bought up more than half the total units at the place where I just bought. This gives greater price stability in case there is any recession as owners are less likely to fire-sale their own house in which they stay.

hyenergix
27-06-12, 09:09
U r right is some aspects.

Traffic is heavier than I expected within 1km of where e hse is but there is no mad jam n crowd beyond tt. In Singapore even Punggol is getting crowded.

I had earlier qualify abt e need for strong Singapore economy n exchange rate to maintain e lower cost of living for retirees.

Fully agree w safety n distance. Tt is y I mention abt getting a J plate car to blend in.

I'm a foreigner in their country, so I wont expect equal or fair treatment. I wld expect better treatment in my own country but this is gradually not e case.

I may b wrong above. We shall c in 40 years' time when I fully retire. To me it is not a big sum to get a hse there, and how far can u go wrong w a FH landed when prices r still inflating n land diminishing?

lajia
27-06-12, 10:37
I'm a foreigner in their country, so I wont expect equal or fair treatment. I wld expect better treatment in my own country but this is gradually not e case.

I may b wrong above. We shall c in 40 years' time when I fully retire. To me it is not a big sum to get a hse there, and how far can u go wrong w a FH landed when prices r still inflating n land diminishing?

Yes, it can go very wrong...when you are not feeling safe to stay there and when they change their policy anythime and when they decided not to proceed with their development promise and when you are letting the "money" collecting dust and rotting each day....and many more which over these years, many had experience and why it is still not growing...sometimes cannot be "metal teeth"....if you know what i mean ;)
so many negative words about the situation but good that you have keep up with your faith in that country :p
:2cents: :2cents:

can't imagine that you are more frustrated in your own country. :rolleyes:

Anyway since u already invest, wish you good luck. :o

hyenergix
27-06-12, 11:18
Yes, it can go very wrong...when you are not feeling safe to stay there and when they change their policy anythime and when they decided not to proceed with their development promise and when you are letting the "money" collecting dust and rotting each day....and many more which over these years, many had experience and why it is still not growing...sometimes cannot be "metal teeth"....if you know what i mean ;)
so many negative words about the situation but good that you have keep up with your faith in that country :p
:2cents: :2cents:

can't imagine that you are more frustrated in your own country. :rolleyes:

Anyway since u already invest, wish you good luck. :o

I wld greatly prefer to buy in Singapore, in fact I already had. Unfortunately due to e push n pull factors mentioned, I take a chance n put a little egg in another basket.

DC33_2008
27-06-12, 12:11
At least you are not angmo which will definitely stand out in JB.
U r right is some aspects.

Traffic is heavier than I expected within 1km of where e hse is but there is no mad jam n crowd beyond tt. In Singapore even Punggol is getting crowded.

I had earlier qualify abt e need for strong Singapore economy n exchange rate to maintain e lower cost of living for retirees.

Fully agree w safety n distance. Tt is y I mention abt getting a J plate car to blend in.

I'm a foreigner in their country, so I wont expect equal or fair treatment. I wld expect better treatment in my own country but this is gradually not e case.

I may b wrong above. We shall c in 40 years' time when I fully retire. To me it is not a big sum to get a hse there, and how far can u go wrong w a FH landed when prices r still inflating n land diminishing?

roly8
27-06-12, 12:18
I wld greatly prefer to buy in Singapore, in fact I already had. Unfortunately due to e push n pull factors mentioned, I take a chance n put a little egg in another basket.

SSD & ABSD , i guess.. :o

focus
27-06-12, 14:04
Got a few friend who bought property in kl got burnt under the sime Darby group development in subang airport area. Still believe in proximity from Singapore. I think Malaysia property is not for rental but own stay.

Went for a sales talk on commercial properties in KL.
The guy also mentioned commercial properties (shops and hotels, not offices) are better investments in malaysia. Don't ask for wild capital appreciation but gradual inflation-adjusted appreciation with a good 6-8% yield.

hyenergix
27-06-12, 14:10
Went for a sales talk on commercial properties in KL.
The guy also mentioned commercial properties (shops and hotels, not offices) are better investments in malaysia. Don't ask for wild capital appreciation but gradual inflation-adjusted appreciation with a good 6-8% yield.

Fruit sellers also tell me their fruits sure sweet leh. They r afterall selling commercial properties.

hyenergix
30-06-12, 15:16
Useful map:

http://wikimapia.org/#lat=1.4398728&lon=103.7625879&z=12&l=0&m=b

hyenergix
01-07-12, 20:10
Kidnapped S'porean family now safely back home
Posted: 01 July 2012 1912 hrs

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1211020/1/.html

roly8
01-07-12, 20:42
Kidnapped S'porean family now safely back home
Posted: 01 July 2012 1912 hrs

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1211020/1/.html

wah kao!!

petrol station again

lajia
01-07-12, 21:00
as usual, can dont go in, dont go...seems like they are very accessible to guns. :doh:

gfoo
01-07-12, 21:02
wah kao!!

petrol station again

5 years ago when i still zhng and drift chia, me and my wife also kena at causeway petrol kiosk. some more convoy, all modified chia, all of us seebay dwa jiat. honda cub rider rode up to my wife's side of the car, open door, threaten with knife, grabbed the handbag, and rode against the grain of traffic. all the bfs were in the station paying.

few years ago my friend driving massa kena r by modified jb merc.

last year best. another friend rx8 w cosworth supercharger kena spike strip at second link jb. crash into longkang. robbers packed up and go after seeing car smoke maciam about to catch fire. lucky he was alone saved by super 6 point recaro seat harness. nipple almost kena shaved off thru friction tho.

buttercarp
01-07-12, 21:24
Kidnapped S'porean family now safely back home
Posted: 01 July 2012 1912 hrs

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1211020/1/.html

:scared-3: :scared-3: :scared-3: :scared-3:

I have not visited Malaysia for a few years.
My in laws in Malaysia come down to visit us instead.

buttercarp
01-07-12, 21:57
What were they doing with 200 000 ringgit?
Wonder whether it includes the cost of the car?

roly8
01-07-12, 21:59
5 years ago when i still zhng and drift chia, me and my wife also kena at causeway petrol kiosk. some more convoy, all modified chia, all of us seebay dwa jiat. honda cub rider rode up to my wife's side of the car, open door, threaten with knife, grabbed the handbag, and rode against the grain of traffic. all the bfs were in the station paying.

few years ago my friend driving massa kena r by modified jb merc.

last year best. another friend rx8 w cosworth supercharger kena spike strip at second link jb. crash into longkang. robbers packed up and go after seeing car smoke maciam about to catch fire. lucky he was alone saved by super 6 point recaro seat harness. nipple almost kena shaved off thru friction tho.

omg!
really really scary

hyenergix
01-07-12, 22:00
5 years ago when i still zhng and drift chia, me and my wife also kena at causeway petrol kiosk. some more convoy, all modified chia, all of us seebay dwa jiat. honda cub rider rode up to my wife's side of the car, open door, threaten with knife, grabbed the handbag, and rode against the grain of traffic. all the bfs were in the station paying.

few years ago my friend driving massa kena r by modified jb merc.

last year best. another friend rx8 w cosworth supercharger kena spike strip at second link jb. crash into longkang. robbers packed up and go after seeing car smoke maciam about to catch fire. lucky he was alone saved by super 6 point recaro seat harness. nipple almost kena shaved off thru friction tho.

Sounds bad. S-plate already attracts attention. Flashy cars r even worse.

hyenergix
01-07-12, 22:03
:cheers1:
What were they doing with 200 000 ringgit?
Wonder whether it includes the cost of the car?

Yes. Currency n text have been updated by reporter.

hyenergix
01-07-12, 22:20
Crime is everywhere. Have u heard of burglary at Pavilion Park in Singapore also? Juz b careful.

teddybear
01-07-12, 22:36
Yes, crimes everywhere, but if you look at the number of crimes divided by the number of population, Malaysia is definitely higher than Singapore.
If you look at the number of violent / armed crimes divided by the number of population, Malaysia is even much much much higher than Singapore.
I feel safe walking around in Singapore anywhere any time (including at night), but I don't even feel safe walking around in Malaysia even during broad daylight! :scared-1:


Crime is everywhere. Have u heard of burglary at Pavilion Park in Singapore also? Juz b careful.

hyenergix
01-07-12, 22:42
So is CCR safer than OCR?

teddybear
01-07-12, 22:44
I am sure in CCR you won't find people bathing everyday in the common toilet instead of at home (to save their own utilities' money) and ask all their extended families to their condos and trying to exploit using common utilities to the max. Heard this is very common in OCR condos?! Judging from past incidences, you are also going into denial again despite what had been previously reported and discussed. :p

Oh yes, CCR condos security guards also usually "A" graded vs OCR usually "B" or even "C" graded? (Reason very simple, "A" graded very expensive mah because they scored well on all fronts on tests conducted by police!) So "A" graded safer right? :D


So is CCR safer than OCR?

amk
01-07-12, 22:45
So is CCR safer than OCR?

Yes :D
What's ur point ?

buttercarp
01-07-12, 23:59
Crime is everywhere. Have u heard of burglary at Pavilion Park in Singapore also? Juz b careful.

Really, when did it happen?
Must get a fierce dog and good alarm system.
Yup.... low crime does not mean no crime.

mygeemeel
02-07-12, 00:49
Haven't anyone heard that even the locals get robbed?

Heard from a friend whose neighbor's house got broken into in broad daylight. They were picking the lock. The owner was at home and called the police. Police came and humtum the thieves.

Well, I haven't forgotten my car kena broken into within 1 hr in Bukit Indah. It happened right in front of a shop.

Would you still buy properties there? Yes it is cheaper than SG but all it takes is just one scare and your kids would be affected pyschologically.

gfoo
02-07-12, 01:15
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hyenergix
02-07-12, 06:48
Yes :D
What's ur point ?

Just teasing teddybear :p

GCB are safest, because police patrols are quite common within the estate.

hyenergix
02-07-12, 06:50
Haven't anyone heard that even the locals get robbed?

Heard from a friend whose neighbor's house got broken into in broad daylight. They were picking the lock. The owner was at home and called the police. Police came and humtum the thieves.

Well, I haven't forgotten my car kena broken into within 1 hr in Bukit Indah. It happened right in front of a shop.

Would you still buy properties there? Yes it is cheaper than SG but all it takes is just one scare and your kids would be affected pyschologically.

You must be driving a Ferrari right?

Yes. But I won't be staying there most of the time. It is just a weekend house and there is an additional layer of gated and guarded. I will make sure that there is nothing to steal inside :D

Maybe kenna robbed by the developers here is less scary.

hyenergix
02-07-12, 06:54
Really, when did it happen?
Must get a fierce dog and good alarm system.
Yup.... low crime does not mean no crime.

I heard it was a few years back. Burglars tied up the family members and maid and ransacked the valuables.

mygeemeel
02-07-12, 09:11
You must be driving a Ferrari right?

Nope. I initially thought they targeted good cars but not true. Because the local policemen showed me photos of other victims' cars. Proton, Toyota, etc.

I'd like to inform all reading this: if you have been told that your windscreen is shatter proof or the window film that you used on your car windscreen helps prevent windscreen shatter... It isn't true for my car. I saw the logo 'shatter proof glass' and window film person say helps to prevent shatter. In the end all shatter to tiny pieces. You have been warned. :)

DC33_2008
02-07-12, 09:19
Wonder if woodland crime rate is highest in Singapore since it closer to the causeway? What will happen when the mrt is going into jb in future?

mygeemeel
02-07-12, 11:25
Wonder if woodland crime rate is highest in Singapore since it closer to the causeway? What will happen when the mrt is going into jb in future?

:scared-1:

zzz1
02-07-12, 11:56
Wonder if woodland crime rate is highest in Singapore since it closer to the causeway? What will happen when the mrt is going into jb in future?
Nn static ... But should be n GL?

zzz1
02-07-12, 11:57
Nope. I initially thought they targeted good cars but not true. Because the local policemen showed me photos of other victims' cars. Proton, Toyota, etc.

I'd like to inform all reading this: if you have been told that your windscreen is shatter proof or the window film that you used on your car windscreen helps prevent windscreen shatter... It isn't true for my car. I saw the logo 'shatter proof glass' and window film person say helps to prevent shatter. In the end all shatter to tiny pieces. You have been warned. :)
Is the work of specialist... Even the alarm don goes off!

Komo
02-07-12, 21:46
if have a property in Malaysia, can stay there and not come back to Sin? :D

teddybear
02-07-12, 21:47
Rob in Woodlands and quickly sneak back to Johor Bahru? :banghead:


Wonder if woodland crime rate is highest in Singapore since it closer to the causeway? What will happen when the mrt is going into jb in future?

DC33_2008
02-07-12, 22:30
Rob Singapore $ in woodlands convert to MYR. More worth it.
Rob in Woodlands and quickly sneak back to Johor Bahru? :banghead:

Laguna
02-07-12, 22:48
if have a property in Malaysia, can stay there and not come back to Sin? :D
MN2H 10 years renewal visa

hyenergix
08-07-12, 11:02
High life for low price

July 8, 2012 - 1:04am
http://www.tnp.sg/content/high-life-low-price

By: Zul Othman

Despite news of Singaporeans being victims of crime in Johor, more are snapping up houses for less than half of what they would cost here.

About 5,000 Singaporeans call Johor home now.

Even the long daily commute to work or school is not a deterrent.

Read the full report in The New Paper on Sunday (July 8).

maisonjai
08-07-12, 14:50
High life for low price




July 8, 2012 - 1:04am
http://www.tnp.sg/content/high-life-low-price

By: Zul Othman

Despite news of Singaporeans being victims of crime in Johor, more are snapping up houses for less than half of what they would cost here.

About 5,000 Singaporeans call Johor home now.

Even the long daily commute to work or school is not a deterrent.

Read the full report in The New Paper on Sunday (July 8).
Funny title & first paragraph, implying High Risk life for low price. Price of our life becomes "half price" as well...kekeke

teddybear
08-07-12, 20:59
Open to your interpretation right?
"High ^ life for low price".... =
"High risk price for low price"....
or "High congestion life for low price"....
or "High blood-pressure life for low price".... :p



Funny title & first paragraph, implying High Risk life for low price. Price of our life becomes "half price" as well...kekeke