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Poloclub
13-06-12, 17:52
IF Singapore would to issue a 3rd casino license where do you think it will be?

For me, I think the former Tang Dynastic site in JLD will be a perfect site and I have good reason to believe it will happen because Singapore government have invested alot of money and effort into redeveloping the area and all they need is to have a cash machine to plant a theme park in that area.

hopeful
13-06-12, 17:57
IF Singapore would to issue a 3rd casino license where do you think it will be?

For me, I think the former Tang Dynastic site in JLD will be a perfect site and I have good reason to believe it will happen because Singapore government have invested alot of money and effort into redeveloping the area and all they need is to have a cash machine to plant a theme park in that area.

do you have insider info?
Shawn has insider info that 3rd casino will be build on the huge empty plot of land, next to gardens by the bay (east).

House
13-06-12, 17:57
Then I m migrating.........:doh:

hopeful
13-06-12, 17:59
Then I m migrating.........:doh:

where to?
a lot of desirable countries to live in have casinos.

Poloclub
13-06-12, 18:01
do you have insider info?
Shawn has insider info that 3rd casino will be build on the huge empty plot of land, next to gardens by the bay (east).

I honestly dont think so because having a casino in that area will have diminishing returns because it will only eat into the existing MBS business.

I dont have insider information, but every time I analyse the JLD plan, somehow I think the missing puzzle to what the government is trying to do in that area is to have a world class theme park that can only happen if there is a backer like a casino operator.

House
13-06-12, 18:03
Jb maybe? Get rob everyday? :D

Thailand? Eat chilli everyday? :D

Poloclub
13-06-12, 18:06
Jb maybe? Get rob everyday? :D

Thailand? Eat chilli everyday? :D

not possible for Jb because genting is already invested in Singapore.

PropertyNewbie
13-06-12, 18:14
My guess is 3rd casino will be in east..Changi Area.

DLiauw
13-06-12, 18:17
I think it will not be on the mainland......perhaps on one of those larger islands to the South of Singapore.....there, in addition to a casino, an entire weekend getaway resort could be developed. Similar to those in the Bahamas.

Laguna
13-06-12, 19:20
after a few rounds of checking, the most likely place is one of the Southern islands...

If u take a ride out of Sentosa, u will understand the islands there are more of resorts.

Land in main land will be for business purposes.

Poloclub
13-06-12, 19:34
I think it will not be on the mainland......perhaps on one of those larger islands to the South of Singapore.....there, in addition to a casino, an entire weekend getaway resort could be developed. Similar to those in the Bahamas.

ideally yes, however this will be seen as government doing something to "benefiting" themselves and the rich and famous instead of the public. And I also think the the southern island are strategic lands which Singapore government would want to use it for reclamation instead of using it for casino.

My guess is that for the next casino, government will definitely want to extract the maximum value out of it instead just giving away land to casino operator, and the most logical choice will be to do it at JLD.

TheOnlyGayInTheVillage
13-06-12, 20:24
I think it will not be on the mainland......perhaps on one of those larger islands to the South of Singapore.....there, in addition to a casino, an entire weekend getaway resort could be developed. Similar to those in the Bahamas.

Semakau landfill. Nature themed casino and resort...

Kanarazu
13-06-12, 20:28
Semakau landfill. Nature themed casino and resort...

If it sounds like Macau, it can be Macau.

phantom_opera
13-06-12, 20:35
I don't think it will happen so soon ... it will be another excuse for WP to "suan" PAP

Poloclub
13-06-12, 20:40
I don't think it will happen so soon ... it will be another excuse for WP to "suan" PAP

dont bet against it. When the economy go south, PAP will do it. At the end of the day, what difference does it make if it is 2 or 3 casino? What the government want is to have a casino operator to create a catalyst to boost the economy.

Can you imagine the impact of having a Disneyland like theme part in Jurong Lake district and a casino? The entire place and those within 1-2KM radius will go boom town charlie.

phantom_opera
13-06-12, 20:45
if we must rely on casinos for growth ... very soon Singapore will be just another Macao ... the Sin City ...

someone jumped from MBS sky garden already :scared-5:

I doubt MM Lee and LSL will allow this to happen at least they are still around

richwang
13-06-12, 20:46
It's a good idea to move the casinos offshore.
After my British friend visited Sentosa Casino, he told me "it is ugly!"
I tend to agree.
I miss the mono train -
no air conditioning, get a little bit wet in a raining day.

Thanks,
Richard

roly8
13-06-12, 20:52
It's a good idea to move the casinos offshore.
After my British friend visited Sentosa Casino, he told me "it is ugly!"
I tend to agree.
I miss the mono train -
no air conditioning, get a little bit wet in a raining day.

Thanks,
Richard

nice share..

TheOnlyGayInTheVillage
13-06-12, 20:52
http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120613-352542.html

phantom_opera
13-06-12, 20:56
http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20120613-352542.html

http://media.zenfs.com/en-SG/blogs/singaporescene/512afp_singapore2.jpg

depends on casinos for growth is like a country becomes a drug addict

perhaps this Dutch tourist is like Gollum

http://identitylovefaith.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/gollum-ring.jpg

TheOnlyGayInTheVillage
13-06-12, 20:58
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TheOnlyGayInTheVillage
13-06-12, 20:59
depends on casinos for growth is like a country becomes a drug addict

perhaps this Dutch tourist is like Gollum


Don't be insensitive make fun of the dead.

May he rest in peace.

phantom_opera
13-06-12, 21:13
Don't be insensitive make fun of the dead.

May he rest in peace.

I am not making fun of him .. I am just saying he could be like Gollum who is a victim of The Ring ... he could have committed suicide because he lost everything to the casinos but I doubt it will be reported at all if that is the case

rymccondo77
13-06-12, 21:19
Two casinos in Singapore are more than enough.

rattydrama
13-06-12, 21:32
Casino is not for us. Its for the Tourist and the Filthy Rich.

Husband: I am going Macau for business.
Wife: Business? What business?
Husand: I might need to go Singapore for business.
Wife: Oh great. Bring me along. :D :D

House
13-06-12, 21:45
Two casinos in Singapore are more than enough.

not when the men in whites have run out of ideas.....which they clearly had.

TheOnlyGayInTheVillage
13-06-12, 23:07
I am not making fun of him .. I am just saying he could be like Gollum who is a victim of The Ring ... he could have committed suicide because he lost everything to the casinos but I doubt it will be reported at all if that is the case

If that is the case then it's really sad... :(

phantom_opera
13-06-12, 23:14
If that is the case then it's really sad... :(

Some people in PAP are fully aware of the social cost of casinos but yet they choose to compromise a little by allowing SC/SPR to pay $100 per day to gamble. In Korea Jeju Island, Koreans cannot enter at all.

So why still allow SPR/SC to enter? If really want to allow the rich to entertain themselves, why not only allow top income bracket to enter??

:2cents:

Kanarazu
13-06-12, 23:38
I am not making fun of him .. I am just saying he could be like Gollum who is a victim of The Ring ... he could have committed suicide because he lost everything to the casinos but I doubt it will be reported at all if that is the case

Literally a flying Dutchman. Could be accident like drunk and fell off.

zeamybro
14-06-12, 00:11
I have friends telling me that the 3rd casino, together with a Disney Land, will be built near the gardens by the bay, the fort road / tanjong rhu side. The southern coast, with the upcoming marina bay centre, is going to get more and more happening

hyenergix
14-06-12, 06:42
Singapore will become Las Vegas if 3rd casino is built. Political cost will be too high. Current 2 casino owners will make noise too. The additional gain will also be much smaller. My sense is not 10 years from now.

Poloclub
14-06-12, 08:57
I have friends telling me that the 3rd casino, together with a Disney Land, will be built near the gardens by the bay, the fort road / tanjong rhu side. The southern coast, with the upcoming marina bay centre, is going to get more and more happening


Your friend is most likely to be BS you lah.. If there is going to be a 3rd casino license, they will still have to go through a tendering process, so how would your friend know the Disneyland will be definitely be partnering the winning proposal?

roly8
14-06-12, 09:42
there will be 3rd casino meh? :o

Laguna
14-06-12, 10:02
Singapore will become Las Vegas if 3rd casino is built. Political cost will be too high. Current 2 casino owners will make noise too. The additional gain will also be much smaller. My sense is not 10 years from now.

The two existing casino are only granted 10 years without additional competition.

So, it is time now the Govt will finalise the site, call for RFP, tender, construction. All these will take about 5 - 6 years to complete.

Wild Falcon
14-06-12, 10:22
My friend who stay near there also said so. But then why would our government want 2 casinos so close together at the Marina area? And casino actually has no impact on property prices. Remember last time before the casinos are completed, every developer also advertise their condo very near casino and sell high high? in the end, the 2 casinos did not have much impact on property prices nearby. And casinos also attract all kinds of weird people and ku de ta also become like prostitution joint. So may not be that attractive to live nearby after all.


I have friends telling me that the 3rd casino, together with a Disney Land, will be built near the gardens by the bay, the fort road / tanjong rhu side. The southern coast, with the upcoming marina bay centre, is going to get more and more happening

roly8
14-06-12, 10:44
My friend who stay near there also said so. But then why would our government want 2 casinos so close together at the Marina area? And casino actually has no impact on property prices. Remember last time before the casinos are completed, every developer also advertise their condo very near casino and sell high high? in the end, the 2 casinos did not have much impact on property prices nearby. And casinos also attract all kinds of weird people and ku de ta also become like prostitution joint. So may not be that attractive to live nearby after all.

like that that area is not suitable for home stay ..
turn into entertaining district liao :o

rattydrama
14-06-12, 10:54
All big casinos are lcoated in Las Vegas. Visitors get to see few of them in a walking tour. Maybe it make sense to build side by side.

House
14-06-12, 11:22
like that that area is not suitable for home stay ..
turn into entertaining district liao :o

A higher class geylang :D

Poloclub
14-06-12, 11:25
All big casinos are lcoated in Las Vegas. Visitors get to see few of them in a walking tour. Maybe it make sense to build side by side.

My gut feel is that government will choose a different site to build the 3rd casino as having an additional casino in the similar site will have diminishing returns, not to mention the stress on infrastructure. To me the most logical choice to will be to build one at the JLD.

If you look at the JLD masterplan, they have allocated huge piece of land in the former tang dynasty and Jurong lake area for hotels and future family attraction (bottom left). And in order for such project to take off, they will need to have a world class theme park, perhaps similar in scale to RWS. Actually if you look at the drawing, doesnt the building layout etc, remind you have RWS? :)

As for the social impact, government could always issue the 3rd casino license that is restricted to PR and foreigners only.


http://www.ura.gov.sg/MP2008/Jurong/pic-3_en.gif

CCR
14-06-12, 11:32
I have friends telling me that the 3rd casino, together with a Disney Land, will be built near the gardens by the bay, the fort road / tanjong rhu side. The southern coast, with the upcoming marina bay centre, is going to get more and more happening

Will never happen.... disneyland already in Tokyo, Shanghai, Hong kong, too many in Asia liao, plus Disney will never tie up with a casino.... not the right mix...

So if there is another casino it will be more a totally brand new concept...

rattydrama
14-06-12, 12:13
Bro Poloclub, MBS ranked higher profits compared to RWS. We already have one big RWS. high rollers are not interested in theme park. cud just have jack pot machines @ theme park if thats the case.

Poloclub
14-06-12, 12:25
Bro Poloclub, MBS ranked higher profits compared to RWS. We already have one big RWS. high rollers are not interested in theme park. cud just have jack pot machines @ theme park if thats the case.


This is not so much about what the high rollers want but what the government want to gain from issuing another casino licenses.

Considering the cost and risk of running a theme park in Singapore, the only possibility for a private company to bid for it is to package the project with a casino licenses.

Perhaps the scale of this casino will not be as costly and grand as RWS and MBS, but I am sure when the casino is built, gambler will come.

phantom_opera
14-06-12, 14:29
And now NUS professor asks young people to take drugs to stimulate imagination ... yeah, encourage them to gamble to be like Pimco Boss better :eek:

国大中文系副教授在个人博客鼓励年轻人使用迷幻药,引发网友抨击。

在这篇题为《中国可考虑向年轻人适度开放迷幻药》的博文中,他开篇就坦诚这是极度敏感的课题,并表明是他为撰写新书《为什么中国出不了乔布斯》,研究乔布斯的成功道路时有感而发。

  他认为,少量的迷幻药或可激发中国大学生的想象力和创造力,不再彷徨郁闷,甚至痛苦。

  “在不伤及健康的前提下,允许年轻人服用致幻剂一类的药物,不见得绝对是一件坏事。”

minority
14-06-12, 22:44
It's a good idea to move the casinos offshore.
After my British friend visited Sentosa Casino, he told me "it is ugly!"
I tend to agree.
I miss the mono train -
no air conditioning, get a little bit wet in a raining day.

Thanks,
Richard


ur British friend went wrong place. RWS appeal to china people. ang mor should go sands.