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phantom_opera
05-06-12, 15:05
Property prices in prime central London have risen a staggering 33,000 percent during the reign of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, and far more than prices in Singapore during the same 50-year period.

As the U.K. celebrates the monarch’s Diamond Jubilee this weekend, Knight Frank has published a Prime Jubilee Index which reveals that a prime property in the heart of the U.K. capital bought for £10,000 (S$19,800) when Her Majesty came to the throne in 1952 will now be worth an average of £3.2 million (S$6.3 million).

A home elsewhere in London costing the same would now be worth some £799,000 (S$1.6 million) – a whopping 8,000 percent increase.

A cash lump sum of £10,000 (S$19,800) invested in 1952, which would have risen in line with inflation, is now worth around £236,000 (S$467,200).

To obtain a comparison for Singapore, PropertyGuru looked at Tiong Bahru Estate. Built in the 1930s, this is one of the oldest housing estates in Singapore. It was the first project undertaken by the Singapore Improvement Trust to provide mass public housing.

In the 1930s these flats were rented out, and it was only in 1965 that they were privatised. They were subsequently awarded conservation status in 2003.

Blocks 55 to 82 are the pre-war conserved flats. PropertyGuru believes the original prices of these homes to be around S$10,000 – although no official data is available. Prices for these flats are now commanding asking prices of close to S$900,000.

Assuming a selling price of S$10,000 in 1952, that’s an 8,900 percent increase over the last 50 years

=> 8000% in 50y both In London and Singapore ... so property is meant to be bought, not sold lol

TheOnlyGayInTheVillage
05-06-12, 15:25
Sell only when the paper tigers wanna cash out the paper profits. Otherwise will forever be paper happiness.

phantom_opera
05-06-12, 15:35
50y is a long time,

I use the CPF compound interest calculator, starting with 10k:

7% is 318k
8% is 529k
9% is 975k
10% is 1.44 million

assume you have a prime MM 900k, if growth at 7% per yaer, after 50y (2062), it will be 28.6 milion :scared-1:

It will reach 5million after 25y (2037), 10million after 35y (2047)

TheOnlyGayInTheVillage
05-06-12, 16:06
50y is a long time,

I use the CPF compound interest calculator, starting with 10k:

7% is 318k
8% is 529k
9% is 975k
10% is 1.44 million

assume you have a prime MM 900k, if growth at 7% per yaer, after 50y (2062), it will be 28.6 milion :scared-1:

It will reach 5million after 25y (2037), 10million after 35y (2047)

Nice dreaming on a lazy Tues afternoon. My friend, everything has a limit... :o

phantom_opera
05-06-12, 16:10
Nice dreaming on a lazy Tues afternoon. My friend, everything has a limit... :o

I also know is unlikely, this is because last 50y is peace and boom time, next 25y probably is a period of low return and then WAR :scared-4:

It will be interesting if someone can publish return between 1900-1950 for London prime property ... the 2nd world war should seriously limit the return in that period

Kelonguni
05-06-12, 16:35
50y is a long time,

I use the CPF compound interest calculator, starting with 10k:

7% is 318k
8% is 529k
9% is 975k
10% is 1.44 million

assume you have a prime MM 900k, if growth at 7% per yaer, after 50y (2062), it will be 28.6 milion :scared-1:

It will reach 5million after 25y (2037), 10million after 35y (2047)

Overall quite a good picture.

Nonetheless, with rentals, interest (and fluctuating interests), maintenance charges coming in, the picture is much much more complex.

focus
05-06-12, 18:20
I only have timeframe of 5 - 10yrs to cash out or to see returns on their investments. I don't want to wait until 30yrs later to be proven right on my investments.

Anything longer is simply too far to see. A decade later, you never know whether Malaysia will overtake us or China have bcome a safer place to invest etc etc. Never say never.

CCR
05-06-12, 18:52
The more impt Question is what are you going to do after cashing out? uSD, SGD?

ikan bilis
05-06-12, 19:03
80x in 50yrs,... thats about 9% per year,... add rental income could become about ~12% per year....

still no fight with warren buffett's >20% per year track record... :tsk-tsk:
but i will stick to real estate investment because it is dam simpler... :D

DC33_2008
05-06-12, 21:29
£ is much higher value then than now. Properties in Singapore have gone up in similar quantum if not higher than in London.
Property prices in prime central London have risen a staggering 33,000 percent during the reign of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, and far more than prices in Singapore during the same 50-year period.

As the U.K. celebrates the monarch’s Diamond Jubilee this weekend, Knight Frank has published a Prime Jubilee Index which reveals that a prime property in the heart of the U.K. capital bought for £10,000 (S$19,800) when Her Majesty came to the throne in 1952 will now be worth an average of £3.2 million (S$6.3 million).

A home elsewhere in London costing the same would now be worth some £799,000 (S$1.6 million) – a whopping 8,000 percent increase.

A cash lump sum of £10,000 (S$19,800) invested in 1952, which would have risen in line with inflation, is now worth around £236,000 (S$467,200).

To obtain a comparison for Singapore, PropertyGuru looked at Tiong Bahru Estate. Built in the 1930s, this is one of the oldest housing estates in Singapore. It was the first project undertaken by the Singapore Improvement Trust to provide mass public housing.

In the 1930s these flats were rented out, and it was only in 1965 that they were privatised. They were subsequently awarded conservation status in 2003.

Blocks 55 to 82 are the pre-war conserved flats. PropertyGuru believes the original prices of these homes to be around S$10,000 – although no official data is available. Prices for these flats are now commanding asking prices of close to S$900,000.

Assuming a selling price of S$10,000 in 1952, that’s an 8,900 percent increase over the last 50 years

=> 8000% in 50y both In London and Singapore ... so property is meant to be bought, not sold lol

kane
05-06-12, 23:37
when i first read the title, i thought jlrx is back. ha.