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reporter2
28-05-12, 17:05
http://www.straitstimes.com/Invest/Story/STIStory_803618.html

Small Change

What goes up, must come down

Bear in mind boom-and-bust market cycles and don't let greed get the better of you

Published on May 27, 2012

By Goh Eng Yeow, Senior Correspondent


Recently, a young friend asked me for advice on buying a new Housing Board flat.

I took one look at the price list and was amazed to find that even as a first-time HDB home buyer, he would have to fork out about $460,000 for a new four-room flat in a mature estate. A five-room Housing Board flat would cost even more.

My instinctive reaction was to ask him to settle for a smaller unit - a three-room Housing Board flat, if he could - so as not to overstretch his finances.

There was another reason for my caution. Over the past 25 years of watching the stock market, I had seen several big swings in asset prices. Markets move in cycles - whether they involve assets as disparate as equities, real estate or motor vehicles.

This leads me to believe that if my friend settles for a more affordable flat and incurs a smaller monthly mortgage instalment, the money he saves can be used to finance the purchase of a bigger apartment, if there is a subsequent market downturn.

And that is the point of this column. In good times, investors tend to chase after assets till they hit prices well beyond reason, but when a financial calamity occurs, prices tend to be depressed to unreasonable levels.

If a prudent investor is mindful of such oscillations between the extremes, whether he is buying a house or investing in the stock market, he is likely to reap outsized gains.

One good example is the equities market. The beguiling calm in the first quarter lulled many traders to believe that good times were back again, as stock prices rose sharply across the globe.

But the turmoil that has again dogged the market in the past three weeks is a grim reminder of how rapidly things can change in the world of investing.

In an article headlined How Quickly They Forget two years ago, Mr Howard Marks, a very successful fund manager and the chairman of United States- based Oaktree Capital Management, observed that the shortness of investors' memories contributed to the big swings in asset prices.

'Things that investors would not touch in the depths of the financial crisis in late 2008 now strike them as good buys at twice the price. The swing of this pendulum recurs regularly, and creates some of the greatest opportunities to lose or gain,' he wrote.

And he had this advice to offer those hoping to profit from such market anomalies: Past patterns tend to recur. If you ignore that fact, you are likely to fall prey to those patterns, rather than benefit from them. But when markets get cooking, the lessons of the past are readily dismissed.

One reason investors tend to forget unpleasant investment experiences so quickly is the very short duration of recent financial disasters.

Mr Marks said: 'When the stock market declined for three straight years from 2000 to 2002, it had been almost 70 years since that had last happened in the Great Depression. Clearly, very few investors who were old enough to experience the first such episode were around for the second.'

A similar observation can be made of the 2008 global financial crisis that triggered a 50 per cent plunge in stock prices across the globe.

The bearishness lasted barely more than a year, before it gave way to the great V-shaped recovery the following year that enabled markets to recover much of their losses.

Then there is the uphill battle to fight against human greed.

'Memories of crises tell us to apply prudence, patience, moderation and conservatism. But these things seem decidedly outdated when the market is in a bull phase, and practising these virtues appears to yield nothing but opportunity costs,' said Mr Marks.

The ups and downs of the real estate market offer a good example of his observation of the amnesia suffered by investors during past bubbles and busts, and their causes.

During the 1970s, property prices spiked due to the high inflation that was triggered worldwide by soaring oil prices. It then suffered a spectacular collapse in 1981, as then US central bank boss Paul Volcker raised US interest rates sharply to curb inflation.

The real estate market stayed in the doldrums for nearly a decade, when Mr Volcker's successor, Mr Alan Greenspan, unleashed a fresh flood of liquidity to try to nudge the US economy out of a recession.

The resulting deluge of easy money fuelled one of Singapore's biggest stock market bull runs in history and a sharp run-up in property prices. Both assets then suffered a big crash with the onset of the Asian financial crisis in 1998.

Although both the stock and real estate markets staged a recovery the following year, the deflationary pressure unleashed by the dot.com bust in 2000 caused them to plummet again for the next three years.

Like the earlier 1970s real estate rally, the recent run-up in property prices had been partly fuelled by the ultra-loose monetary policies practised by Mr Greenspan's successor, Mr Ben Bernanke, as US$2.3 trillion (S$2.9 trillion) of fresh money was printed to nurse the sick global economy back to health after Lehman Brothers' demise in 2008.

It harkens back to Mr Marks' observation that many of the participants in the current property rally are too young to remember the previous boom-and-bust cycles in the real estate market.

And if the script stays true to form, sure as night follows day, prices may fall, as economic fundamentals reassert themselves. It pays to be patient.

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phantom_opera
28-05-12, 17:56
This is one ST guy I respect ... it is the human behavior

But he forgets to mention one thing, the greatest investors buy near the bottom if not at the bottom, sell near the peak if not at the peak. We are no where near the peak IMO. This game still has momentum to scale new high until probably 2017. He rightly quoted the example of US high inflation from 1972-1980 but he failed to mention Singapore is in the same phase. Lack of political will to fight inflation is a main problem.

solsys
29-05-12, 09:47
This is one ST guy I respect ... it is the human behavior

But he forgets to mention one thing, the greatest investors buy near the bottom if not at the bottom, sell near the peak if not at the peak. We are no where near the peak IMO. This game still has momentum to scale new high until probably 2017. He rightly quoted the example of US high inflation from 1972-1980 but he failed to mention Singapore is in the same phase. Lack of political will to fight inflation is a main problem.

Yeap, still got a leg to run...... Demand is there and EC is still at its infancy stage.

Leeds
29-05-12, 10:10
It is really a judgement call now.

Politically, it is difficult for prices to move another 10% without public outcry. So there is this fear of government intervention if prices move up further.

External factors will be key to global economic stability and as of now, nothing suggest that the external environment is getting any better. In fact, the worst could be in the blew.

Taking the above into consideration, it may not be wise to chase property now. The odd is against us. Any gain if any at all may be too small to worth the risk.

phantom_opera
29-05-12, 10:43
It is really a judgement call now.

Politically, it is difficult for prices to move another 10% without public outcry. So there is this fear of government intervention if prices move up further.

External factors will be key to global economic stability and as of now, nothing suggest that the external environment is getting any better. In fact, the worst could be in the blew.

Taking the above into consideration, it may not be wise to chase property now. The odd is against us. Any gain if any at all may be too small to worth the risk.

Do u think garmen can tolerate 1% gain per quarter?

phantom_opera
29-05-12, 10:48
Work on the latest new town, Bidadari, will start by the end of the year, paving the way for 12,000 new homes to be built in central Singapore.

The site is slated for both private as well as Housing Board homes.

Depending on demand, the first Housing Board build-to-order launch may take place as early as 2015, a National Development Ministry (MND) spokesman said.

This could mean Housing Board flats completed by 2018 or so, consultants said.

=> Very smart of MND/HDB ... leave the best for the last ... can sell very high prices .. a 3r HDB starting from 4XXk ??

Leeds
29-05-12, 10:54
Do u think garmen can tolerate 1% gain per quarter?

The government is expecting a soft landing going forward, so any gradual increase is likely to attract attention and actions before it goes out of control.

gn108
29-05-12, 11:05
It's not so much as the garmen can take as the voting public.
Too much swing either way and it's bad politics...so it's threading the needle. I reckon +/- 5 to 8% should do it.


Do u think garmen can tolerate 1% gain per quarter?

phantom_opera
29-05-12, 11:13
How garmen can control hdb cov?

TheOnlyGayInTheVillage
29-05-12, 11:55
Work on the latest new town, Bidadari, will start by the end of the year, paving the way for 12,000 new homes to be built in central Singapore.

The site is slated for both private as well as Housing Board homes.


In that same report, the site area is stated just slightly smaller than the whole Punggol estate! :scared-5: :eek: :scared-4:

phantom_opera
29-05-12, 12:02
In that same report, the site area is stated just slightly smaller than the whole Punggol estate! :scared-5: :eek: :scared-4:
Khaw very smart one stone kills ten birds, want cheap buy punggol, want rcr buy bidadari and sell at peak of cycles, many ECs to sell to developers, to score kpi liao

Leeds
29-05-12, 12:15
Khaw very smart one stone kills ten birds, want cheap buy punggol, want rcr buy bidadari and sell at peak of cycles, many ECs to sell to developers, to score kpi liao

Looking at things in perspective, it is only during the upswing that people want to buy flats and developers want to buy lands.

During the down cycle, there is little or no demand for flats and so developer's interest also lie low. This is market forces at work.

DC33_2008
29-05-12, 12:18
Did not know it will happen so fast. Will miss the greenery at this place.
Work on the latest new town, Bidadari, will start by the end of the year, paving the way for 12,000 new homes to be built in central Singapore.

The site is slated for both private as well as Housing Board homes.

Depending on demand, the first Housing Board build-to-order launch may take place as early as 2015, a National Development Ministry (MND) spokesman said.

This could mean Housing Board flats completed by 2018 or so, consultants said.

=> Very smart of MND/HDB ... leave the best for the last ... can sell very high prices .. a 3r HDB starting from 4XXk ??

roly8
29-05-12, 12:30
build on the ex-Bidadari cemetry is it?

DC33_2008
29-05-12, 12:39
Yup! Over the entire green landscape. :(
build on the ex-Bidadari cemetry is it?

roly8
29-05-12, 12:58
Yup! Over the entire green landscape. :(

probably gonna build another stuff like pinnacle @ duxton ..

no one cannot refuse to invest in there, for sure. despite it is a ex-cemetery land:D

DC33_2008
29-05-12, 13:02
Have been asking people to invest around that area. Can reap the fruit much earlier going by this news.
probably gonna build another stuff like pinnacle @ duxton ..

no one cannot refuse to invest in there, for sure. despite it is a ex-cemetery land:D

hyenergix
29-05-12, 13:34
Have been asking people to invest around that area. Can reap the fruit much earlier going by this news.

This news caught me by surprise. I tot they will wait for a few more years b4 developing. It will make e area v crowded. Fruits will only e case of more amenities like mall, schools n hospital. If purely HDBs, ECs n PCs like Punggol, it will b bad.

phantom_opera
29-05-12, 13:40
Launch now is correct, can sell lands at high valuation, now 8@w and bartley resi will definitely ask for the sky

hyenergix
29-05-12, 13:43
Launch now is correct, can sell lands at high valuation, now 8@w and bartley resi will definitely ask for the sky

Y is there an urgency to develop this area. I think govt is preparing for surge of new citizens buying HDBs. Not a good sign.

phantom_opera
29-05-12, 13:48
Y is there an urgency to develop this area. I think govt is preparing for surge of new citizens buying HDBs. Not a good sign.
For 2nd timers, otherwise they won't sell their precious to new immigrants creating upward pressure in cov but I think is too late already, hdb price will be up another 25pc in next 3y

TheOnlyGayInTheVillage
29-05-12, 15:38
Did not know it will happen so fast. Will miss the greenery at this place.

8@W owners probably would cry foul.

pinkpolkadot
29-05-12, 15:46
8@W owners probably would cry foul.

why cry foul?

TheOnlyGayInTheVillage
29-05-12, 16:07
why cry foul?

The area is 'HDB-ized' so soon...

pinkpolkadot
29-05-12, 17:03
Launch now is correct, can sell lands at high valuation, now 8@w and bartley resi will definitely ask for the sky

Is it a good time to invest in the developments now?

DC33_2008
29-05-12, 17:37
HDB estate will come with markets, malls, etc.
The area is 'HDB-ized' so soon...

phantom_opera
29-05-12, 17:44
Sky Habitat also surrounded by HDBs right??

May be Bidadari Habitat by CAPL will beat SH

DC33_2008
29-05-12, 17:53
Nicer landscape here to bring out the creativtiy of the Architecture.
Sky Habitat also surrounded by HDBs right??

May be Bidadari Habitat by CAPL will beat SH

TheOnlyGayInTheVillage
29-05-12, 19:19
Bidadari = Bid a daring bid