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hyenergix
05-04-12, 06:21
The Three Little Pigs story tells us that we should build our house using bricks, not dry partition
http://www.bca.gov.sg/SustainableConstruction/sc_advantages.html

THREE LITTLE PIGS
http://w8r.com/kidsbook/pigs.html

Once there was a mother pig who had three little pigs. She did not have enough to keep them, so she sent them out to seek their fortunes.

The first little pig had not gone far when he met a man with a bundle of straw. The little pig said to him, "Please, man, give me that straw to build me a house."

This the man did, and soon the little pig had built a house with it.

Just after the house was built, along came a wolf. He knocked at the door of the little pig's house and called, "Little pig, little pig, let me come in!"

But the little pig answered, "No, no! Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin!"

Then the wolf said, "I'll huff and I'll puff, and I'll blow your house in!"

So he huffed and he puffed until he blew the house in, and ate up that little pig.

The second little pig had not gone far when he met a man carrying a bundle of sticks on his shoulders.

The little pig said to him, "Please, man, give me those sticks to build me a house."

This the man did, and soon the little pig had built a house with them.


Just after the house was built, along came the wolf. He knocked at the door of the little pig's house and said, "Little pig, little pig, let me come in!"

But the little pig answered, "No, no! Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin!"

Then the wolf said, "I'll huff and I'll puff, and I'll blow your house in!"

So he huffed and he puffed and he blew the house in, and ate up that little pig.


The third little pig met a man with a load of bricks.

The little pig said to him, "Please, man, give me those bricks to build me a house."

This the man did, and soon the little pig had built a house with them.

Just after the house was built, along came the wolf. He knocked at the door of the little pig's house and said, "Little pig, little pig, let me come in!"

But the little pig answered, "No, no! Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin!"

Then the wolf said, "I'll huff and I'll puff, and I'll blow your house in!"

So the wolf huffed and he puffed and he puffed and he huffed, and he huffed and he puffed, but he couldn't blow this third little pig's house down.

When he found that with all his huffing and puffing he could not blow this little pig's house down, he said, "Little pig, I know where there is a field of fine turnips.

"Where?" the little pig asked eagerly.

"Over in Mr. Smith's home field. And if you will be ready tomorrow morning I will call you and we will go together and get some for our dinner."

"Thank you," replied the little pig. "I will be ready when you come for me. What time do you want to go?"

"Oh, I'll come for you at six o'clock."


Now the little pig rose at five o'clock and was back home with his turnips when about six o'clock the wolf came and said, "Little pig, are you ready?"

"Ready?" exclaimed the little pig. "Why, I have been there and back home again, and I have a fine pot of turnips already cooked for my dinner!"

The wolf was very angry, but thinking that he would be equal to the little pig, he said, "Little pig, I know where there is a very nice apple tree."

"Where?" the little pig asked eagerly.

"Down at Merry Garden," replied the wolf. "And if you will not deceive me this time, I will come for you at five o'clock tomorrow morning and we will go down there together and get some nice apples."

"I will be ready," replied the little pig.

The little pig got up early the next morning, and was on his way by four o'clock. But this time he had to go much farther, and besides, he had to climb the tree to get the apples. Just as he was ready to jump down, he spied the wolf.

"What, little pig!" said the wolf. "You here before me? Are they nice apples?"

"Oh, yes," replied the little pig. "Here, I will throw one down for you."

Now the little pig threw that apple so far that while the wolf was going after it, he jumped down to the ground and ran home with his basket of apples as fast as he was able.

He dashed into the house, slammed the door, and locked it. Then he sat down to rest.

Of course the wolf was again very angry, but the next day he came to the little pig's house once more and said, "Little pig, there's a fair over at Shanklin this afternoon. Will you go there with me?"


"Oh, yes," replied the little pig. "What time shall I expect you?"

"At three," answered the wolf.

That afternoon the little pig went off before three o'clock, just as usual, got to the fair, bought a butter churn, and was going home with it when he spied the wolf coming.

This time the little pig was terribly frightened. He didn't know what to do, so he got into the churn to hide. But as he was climbing in, the churn started to roll round and round. Down the hill it rolled, faster and faster, with the little pig still in it. This frightened the wolf so much that he ran home, forgetting all about going to the fair at Shanklin that afternoon.

The next day he went to the little pig's house again and told him how frightened he had been while going to the fair.

The little pig laughed, and said, "Ha, ha! I frightened you that time! I had gone to the fair and had bought a butter churn there; and when I saw you coming I climbed inside the churn and rolled down the hill."

Then the wolf was very angry indeed. He vowed that he would eat up that little pig -- that he would climb up on the roof of the little pig's house and go down the chimney after him.

When the little pig heard the wolf on the roof of his house and saw what he was about, he made a blazing fire in his fireplace, filled a big pot with water, and hung it over the fire.

Just as the wolf was coming down the chimney, the little pig lifted the lid off the big pot of boiling water, and in fell the wolf. And then the little pig quickly popped on the cover again, and had the wolf for supper.

And that is how it came about that this little pig lived happily in his snug little brick house ever after.

roly8
05-04-12, 10:49
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what is your purpose to post this childhood story? :p

hyenergix
05-04-12, 10:59
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what is your purpose to post this childhood story? :p

Obviously some policy makers have not read the story of Three Little Pigs before... How long can these partitions last? These new cost-cutting technologies are not time-tested.

Developers are cutting corners nowadays, so properties may not be able to last as long as before, probably 30 years before they deteriorate so badly that major renovation or enbloc is needed.

roly8
05-04-12, 11:19
yea....

paying double the price and yet getting lousier work quality...
what a world now..:doh:

fclim
05-04-12, 11:19
Obviously some policy makers have not read the story of Three Little Pigs before... How long can these partitions last? These new cost-cutting technologies are not time-tested.

Developers are cutting corners nowadays, so properties may not be able to last as long as before, probably 30 years before they deteriorate so badly that major renovation or enbloc is needed.

Like dat, live in prison best.

Why do you need solid concrete walls for interior, especially when the surrounding facade are all glass nowadays mostly? It is not perfect, but should serve its purpose. It ensures better productivity and that condos can be completed fast.

Btw, it has been in use in the US and Canada since the 1950s...

hyenergix
05-04-12, 11:23
Like dat, live in prison best.

Why do you need solid concrete walls for interior, especially when the surrounding facade are all glass nowadays mostly? It is not perfect, but should serve its purpose. It ensures better productivity and that condos can be completed fast.

Btw, it has been in use in the US and Canada since the 1950s...

Solid wall has better strength, durability, sound proofing etc. Even the property agent I spoke to also shook his head in disbelief that such luxurious projects are now using these partitions.

buttercarp
05-04-12, 11:25
Nowadays, things are not meant to last a lifetime.
Last time my mother's washing machine, air con , stove etc lasted for ages and the reason for throwing them away was not because they malfunctioned but because it got so old and when we shifted we wanted new things.

Nowadays, my electrical appliances hardly last 5 years.:(

hyenergix
05-04-12, 11:28
Nowadays, things are not meant to last a lifetime.
Last time my mother's washing machine, air con , stove etc lasted for ages and the reason for throwing them away was not because they malfunctioned but because it got so old and when we shifted we wanted new things.

Nowadays, my electrical appliances hardly last 5 years.:(

I'm okay with electrical appliances, but not walls.

fclim
05-04-12, 12:03
Nowadays, things are not meant to last a lifetime.
Last time my mother's washing machine, air con , stove etc lasted for ages and the reason for throwing them away was not because they malfunctioned but because it got so old and when we shifted we wanted new things.

Nowadays, my electrical appliances hardly last 5 years.:(

Companies that build things to last a lifetime won't last a lifetime themselves.

teddybear
05-04-12, 14:16
So BCA moving the concept to: "Developers that build things to last a lifetime won't last a lifetime themselves."? :doh:
BCA asking developers to use Steel to replace Concrete?
Why need to? In fact, developers are already using "Glass" to replace "Concrete"! See all those "Glass" walls you can see from outside! :banghead:
I don't even know if those glass walls can last >20 years before shattering into pieces! :scared-1:

Oh yes, those steel will rust, and gone case after 50 years? The whole building will collapse or not after they rust?



Companies that build things to last a lifetime won't last a lifetime themselves.

fclim
05-04-12, 16:08
So BCA moving the concept to: "Developers that build things to last a lifetime won't last a lifetime themselves."? :doh:
BCA asking developers to use Steel to replace Concrete?
Why need to? In fact, developers are already using "Glass" to replace "Concrete"! See all those "Glass" walls you can see from outside! :banghead:
I don't even know if those glass walls can last >20 years before shattering into pieces! :scared-1:

Oh yes, those steel will rust, and gone case after 50 years? The whole building will collapse or not after they rust?

Why are you always so grumpy and worked up? Relax bro., it's a long weekend ahead. More showflat viewings haha.

What I meant was product life cycles are getting shorter and shorter. If Companies don't innovate, they will be out of business. If you make things that last forever, who is going to replace their old ovens or whatever and buy the new products that you come up with?

There is no need to politicise everything. ok, ok, I know u going to get angry over this too.:D

carbuncle
06-04-12, 14:32
It's scary.... to think that our new projects structure will not last beyond 20-30 years... even if it's sitting on 99LH or 999LH or FH land so what...

I guess it makes perfect economical sense then to create a market for en-bloc... gone are the days when you can buy a new home and expect it to be your last and die there....

Ya you might really DIE there before your life span is up if you don't get out before the structures crash on you LOL

ysyap
06-04-12, 16:26
Like dat, live in prison best.

Why do you need solid concrete walls for interior, especially when the surrounding facade are all glass nowadays mostly? It is not perfect, but should serve its purpose. It ensures better productivity and that condos can be completed fast.

Btw, it has been in use in the US and Canada since the 1950s...Try the Egyptian pyramids... its been there the last 5000 years... :cheers6:

new2mondrian
07-04-12, 02:29
Obviously some policy makers have not read the story of Three Little Pigs before... How long can these partitions last? These new cost-cutting technologies are not time-tested.

Developers are cutting corners nowadays, so properties may not be able to last as long as before, probably 30 years before they deteriorate so badly that major renovation or enbloc is needed.

Eh what to do? Foreign labour hard to come by. Everything is done in the name of productivity. Erecting walls take way long. Look at the brighter side, people are forever tearing down walls and putting up new ones. :)

Okies dokes, such partitions are really not new. The apartment which i stayed in during my holiday in Auckland, even some of the outer walls were made of such partitions! At least we haven"t got to that level yet.

howgozit
07-04-12, 17:29
I have one such wall in my house.

Got it done to better apportion space on one floor of my place to accomodate the changing needs of my growing family. 5years plus already... so far so good. (touch wood)

Its cheap and easy to install... since it is not load bearing no worries on its strength. Looks and feels like a "real wall" but sounds a bit hollow if you rap on it. Best place to position it is on the side where you intend to put the wardrobe.... so have another "layer" of insulation, protection....etc

Many walk-in wardrobes are done using these partitions too.

You will find internal walls of houses in Australia built with such partition walls as well. This is certainly not a new thing. That is why DIY is much easier in Ang Mo homes. These walls are much easier to manage compared to concrete (esp pre-fab) walls where you need a hammer drill.