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Fisherman
12-01-12, 20:21
Central Banks 'Printing Money Like Gangbusters': Gross
CEOS AND CFOS, BILL GROSS, PIMCO, BONDS, TOTAL RETURN FUND, ETFS, MARGO D. BELLER, CNBC.COM, CNBC
Posted By: Margo D. Beller | Special to CNBC.com
CNBC.com | 11 Jan 2012 | 05:13 PM ET

The world's central banks are "printing money like gangbusters," which could revive the threat of inflation , Pimco founder Bill Gross told CNBC Wednesday.

By putting "hundreds of billions" in currency in circulation, the central banks "can produce reflation—that's why we’re seeing the pop in oil, gold" and other commodities, he said in a live interview.


At the same time, "there’s the potential for deflation if the private credit markets can’t produce some sort of confidence and solvency going forward," Gross said. "So we’re at great risk here, not only in the U.S. but on a global basis."


Gross has previously predicted a "paranormal" market in 2012 characterized by "credit and zero-bound interest rate risk" and fewer incentives for lenders to extend credit.


He said stock and bond investors must lower their expectations when it comes to returns, with 2 percent to 5 percent as good as they get this year.

He also told CNBC he expects the Federal Reserve will keep interest rates "exactly where it is at 25 basis points for the next three to four years."


Gross's Total Return Fund, the world's largest bond fund, had over $10 billion in outflows in 2011, but Gross stressed the fund "started 2011 at $240 billion and ended it at $244 billion."


He said he will run the Pimco Total Return Fund ETF , which starts March 1, the same way he runs the bond Total Return Fund, adding, "They're twins."

ikan bilis
12-01-12, 20:31
heya... some1 very damn no happy because he bet on the wrong side... sold bond and hold ca$h... after that told the whole world he hold big position in ca$h... now very no face and kpkb liow... :ashamed1:

:rolleyes:

kane
12-01-12, 20:41
He should know better, all the central banks are inclined to employing this strategy of reflation. Therefore being in cash has a highly probable 5% downside due to inflation.

So its a beauty parade of which asset classes loses you less money.

Fisherman
12-01-12, 21:14
We are now experiencing what the Japanese has gone through for the past decade!

CCR
12-01-12, 22:57
small difference from japan....

1, the US and europe much more aggressive in printing money than japan, so they have a higher chance or succeeding.

2. US and Europe popluation growing so there are more consumers and economy getting bigger.... this will ensure economy recover over time... while japan has a stagnant and ageing population...

3. entreprenuership, creativity culture is very strong in US, so they will keep reinventing themselves and grow the economy....

I personally think they will succeed... how can they not succeed... they can keep printing money until they succeed......

apple3
13-01-12, 03:28
small difference from japan....

1, the US and europe much more aggressive in printing money than japan, so they have a higher chance or succeeding.

2. US and Europe popluation growing so there are more consumers and economy getting bigger.... this will ensure economy recover over time... while japan has a stagnant and ageing population...

3. entreprenuership, creativity culture is very strong in US, so they will keep reinventing themselves and grow the economy....

I personally think they will succeed... how can they not succeed... they can keep printing money until they succeed......

Key different:

Japan debt contain high proportion of internal debt rather than external debt and this explain why the bubble burst have less impact compare to external debt holder.

Noted that Singapore USD300B public debt outweight GDP in 106%, does anyone feel any tinge of urgency. Nope.. because internal and domestic debt.

Rosy
13-01-12, 09:06
Noted that Singapore USD300B public debt outweight GDP in 106%, does anyone feel any tinge of urgency. Nope.. because internal and domestic debt.

also partly because Sg have reserves? rumored to be 300-500bln?

hopeful
13-01-12, 10:29
also partly because Sg have reserves? rumored to be 300-500bln?
http://www.mas.gov.sg/data_room/reserves_statistics/Official_Foreign_Reserves.html
officially S$308billion.
unofficially :beats-me-man:

teddybear
13-01-12, 10:38
You mean somebody "pocket" the "unofficial" which is a huge sum? Even the President don't know right? :confused:


http://www.mas.gov.sg/data_room/reserves_statistics/Official_Foreign_Reserves.html
officially S$308billion.
unofficially :beats-me-man:

phantom_opera
31-12-12, 18:43
END OF PERIOD M3
2011
Nov 450,311.7
2012
Nov P 480,263.2

up 6.66%, LSL just said GDP growth 1.5% .. the rest roughtly = inflation loh :doh:

2005
Nov 225,206.3
2012
Nov P 480,263.2

:scared-5: :scared-3: :scared-1: :banghead: :beats-me-man:

phantom_opera
04-02-13, 13:05
2011 Dec 451,666.3
2012 Dec P 485,915.4

M3 up 7.5% yoy

phantom_opera
06-03-13, 20:20
Singapore M3 up 8.8% (Jan2012-Jan2013) ... China's M2 up 13.8%

BEIJING - China's money supply growth target of 13 per cent in 2013 signals that policymakers do not want credit growth to be too fast, People's Bank of China Governor Zhou Xiaochuan said on Tuesday.
Broad money supply, or M2, in China grew by 13.8 per cent in 2012.
"When you compare the figure to those in past years you can see this emphasises that money supply should not rise too quickly," Mr Zhou told reporters on the sidelines of China's annual meeting of parliament, the National People's Congress.
Other forms of financing not captured by M2, including trust loans and bond issuance, have increased in importance in China in recent years.

phantom_opera
03-04-13, 18:21
Singapore M3 up almost 10% yoy (Feb 2012 to Feb 2013)


S$ MILLION
END OF PERIOD M3
2012
Feb 453,419.5
2013
Feb 498,503.5

:simmering: