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blackjack21trader
11-12-11, 12:14
Fellow property owners (with more than 3 properties )!
Fear Not the CM5 !It is a well-intended and thought out property cooling measure. It will prevent a bubble from forming on our beloved land. It is meant to protect us.
Your very humble brother here thought about the CM5 and human nature for the past 3 nights and did not sleep for more than 3 hours every night!. Then a morning bird landed on my balcony ledge and I get this answer:
Here's my conclusion:
The Foreigner buyers who cannot buy SHALL RENT our properties lah!
Good Luck!
神龙股圣。
NIL SINE LABORE!
Wah! Your 3-days conclusion came to be similar to some analysts reported in the news! Well done!
Hope that the analysts had also spent 3 days to come to the same conclusion as you then all we fellow multiple property owners will be happy! :cheers4:
Fellow property owners (with more than 3 properties )!
Fear Not the CM5 !It is a well-intended and thought out property cooling measure. It will prevent a bubble from forming on our beloved land. It is meant to protect us.
Your very humble brother here thought about the CM5 and human nature for the past 3 nights and did not sleep for more than 3 hours every night!. Then a morning bird landed on my balcony ledge and I get this answer:
Here's my conclusion:
The Foreigner buyers who cannot buy SHALL RENT our properties lah!
Good Luck!
神龙股圣。
NIL SINE LABORE!
Why are you addressing to owners with more than 3 properties only? Same goes for those with 2 or 3 properties also mah... so long as they can rent their property, your assurance is for them too... :o
blackjack21trader
11-12-11, 12:26
Wah! Your 3-days conclusion came to be similar to some analysts reported in the news! Well done!
Hope that the analysts had also spent 3 days to come to the same conclusion as you then all we fellow multiple property owners will be happy! :cheers4:
Maybe it is the same morning bird that pass the message to them?
WOAHAHAAHHAAHAHHA
Allthepies
11-12-11, 12:28
Here's my conclusion:
The Foreigner buyers who cannot buy SHALL RENT our properties lah!
Or they become PR to buy our properties at dirt cheap price?:scared-1:
blackjack21trader
11-12-11, 12:28
Why are you addressing to owners with more than 3 properties only? Same goes for those with 2 or 3 properties also mah... so long as they can rent their property, your assurance is for them too... :o
Dear brother ysyap, you are always so kind and considerate! yes indeed your are right, but I feel the risks for owners with more than 3 properties is higher now. And I fear they may become the kancheong spiders like some developers hor. That is why I address to them only mah.
No need panic. No need fire sale. Steady pom pi pi. Interest rate still low... People still renting. HDB prices still high. Can support market...
Dear brother ysyap, you are always so kind and considerate! yes indeed your are right, but I feel the risks for owners with more than 3 properties is higher now. And I fear they may become the kancheong spiders like some developers hor. That is why I address to them only mah.
it's not abt kancheong spider.
It abt losing out on opportunity. smarters sell now and buy back even cheaper.
some just think props will go up in straight line:doh:
blackjack21trader
11-12-11, 12:36
Or they become PR to buy our properties at dirt cheap price?:scared-1:
brother allthepies got a point, but I do not think many foreigners would want to become PR just to do that lor. Because between a PR and Singaporean, the stamp duty effect is one property. How so?
For PR with more than 2 properties, they have to pay 3% more which is about 6%. While for a Singaporean, it is 3 properties mah. This one property advantage can be a $1million difference hor.
Keep in mind hor... MIW says 3% additional tax meaning the base stamp duty@3% now can change one hor !!!!
blackjack21trader
11-12-11, 12:37
No need panic. No need fire sale. Steady pom pi pi. Interest rate still low... People still renting. HDB prices still high. Can support market...
yes brother mcmlxxvi...that is the message I want you guys to get. Keep cool, ai zhai.....ai zhai.....do not become a BASIC-fulfilling prophecy.
Wait till MIW come out with AABSD... additional additional buyers' stamp duty.... :D
blackjack21trader
11-12-11, 12:41
it's not abt kancheong spider.
It abt losing out on opportunity. smarters sell now and buy back even cheaper.
some just think props will go up in straight line:doh:
brother jwong71 fear is not groundless. There is this possibility if the kancheong developers start giving out huge discounts. That is why immediately I come here to pass the morning bird's message.
blackjack21trader
11-12-11, 12:43
Wait till MIW come out with AABSD... additional additional buyers' stamp duty.... :D
wahlaueh...mai leh....now blue black all over liao ok.
wahlaueh...mai leh....now blue black all over liao ok.Lol... ok ok... me already suggesting that since the impending Euro recession and US recession are staring us in the face, the down will probably last more than 4 years so the Jan CM of 4yr SSD is useless liao. Its time to remove that measure. The recent one is sufficient to curb investors' itchy fingers liao... Plus the 60% LTV, its the head and tail of the investor's nightmare already... time to remove some of the earlier useless CM... KBW, are u listening? Don't just add add add until all is lost... Close a door and open a window otherwise all will die inside the ill-ventilated room.. :cheers5:
Allthepies
11-12-11, 13:27
Lol... ok ok... me already suggesting that since the impending Euro recession and US recession are staring us in the face, the down will probably last more than 4 years so the Jan CM of 4yr SSD is useless liao. Its time to remove that measure. The recent one is sufficient to curb investors' itchy fingers liao... Plus the 60% LTV, its the head and tail of the investor's nightmare already... time to remove some of the earlier useless CM... KBW, are u listening? Don't just add add add until all is lost... Close a door and open a window otherwise all will die inside the ill-ventilated room.. :cheers5:
I hoping to buy a hdb if kbw remove all the previous CM... But don't think he will be kind to us, we are not his preferred citizens :scared-2:
bro blackjack...3 cheers to you...
:cheers4::cheers4::cheers4:
if it means anything from my humble perspective the tenant for my hdb flat who is a PR told me mr landlord as long as i have a job in singapore i will continue renting your hdb apt....:cheers1:as long as you DONT UP the rent....:o
Lol... ok ok... me already suggesting that since the impending Euro recession and US recession are staring us in the face, the down will probably last more than 4 years so the Jan CM of 4yr SSD is useless liao. Its time to remove that measure. The recent one is sufficient to curb investors' itchy fingers liao... Plus the 60% LTV, its the head and tail of the investor's nightmare already... time to remove some of the earlier useless CM... KBW, are u listening? Don't just add add add until all is lost... Close a door and open a window otherwise all will die inside the ill-ventilated room.. :cheers5:
In earlier posts, I mention abt doors and windows are closing in fast. Exit before total shutoff.
Now asking for ventilation? who to be blame??:D
Are we seeing a massive massacre soon..???
Govt indeed did well, to kill many and warned the rest
rattydrama
11-12-11, 13:45
Lol... ok ok... me already suggesting that since the impending Euro recession and US recession are staring us in the face, the down will probably last more than 4 years so the Jan CM of 4yr SSD is useless liao. Its time to remove that measure. The recent one is sufficient to curb investors' itchy fingers liao... Plus the 60% LTV, its the head and tail of the investor's nightmare already... time to remove some of the earlier useless CM... KBW, are u listening? Don't just add add add until all is lost... Close a door and open a window otherwise all will die inside the ill-ventilated room.. :cheers5:
cannot sell and no one buy, in order to trim expenses, I ask my maid to buy a batam home and stay there and travel 45 min boat ride and only come to work if there is a meeting. otherwise work from home to save transport cost. i rear chicken and duck and plant my own fruit trees and grow my own veg.
:rolleyes:
rattydrama
11-12-11, 13:47
I hoping to buy a hdb if kbw remove all the previous CM... But don't think he will be kind to us, we are not his preferred citizens :scared-2:
my best x'mas present ever and dont mind a cny ang bo as well :rolleyes:
Wait till MIW come out with AABSD... additional additional buyers' stamp duty.... :D
hahaha. :p
A suggestion: Time to try to boost your cashflow, if you can, through purchase of good quality corporate/sovereign bonds with respectable yields in such uncertain times. These instruments are less volatile. By so doing, you can tahan longer!:D
I was jogging at Lower Pierce along Old Thomson Road. Multiple packs of Ang Moh cyclists (some 30 of them) rode by, never seen so many of them before, its quite shocking. They are also mentioned on ST paper today at Neo Tiew road hogging the traffic. It gives me that "Eight Countries combine military" feeling.
If CM5 bring price down by 30%, it is only good for Foreigners as they will get 20% discount, while locals still contemplating whether to buy or not, or waiting for 50% drop.
I was jogging at Lower Pierce along Old Thomson Road. Multiple packs of Ang Moh cyclists (some 30 of them) rode by, never seen so many of them before, its quite shocking. They are also mentioned on ST paper today at Neo Tiew road hogging the traffic. It gives me that "Eight Countries combine military" feeling.
If CM5 bring price down by 30%, it is only good for Foreigners as they will get 20% discount, while locals still contemplating whether to buy or not, or waiting for 50% drop.
Unlikely foreigners like this kinda feeling.
Drop by 30%,
which means other enjoy 30% discount, foreigners only 20%:mad:
It's not fair:scared-1:
"Why shld I pay more" is in everyone mindset
Remember the herd of mainland chinese investors coming in to scoop up Thomson G some months back? They don't even blink an eye on the high psf of this project and just signed on the dotted line. Do you think they bother about the 10% ABSD? They only need a place to sit their cash to wait out the recession before their own country swallow their hard earn cash... They surely don't mind paying a bit more to find a nice place to park their money than to risk losing big time through stocks and other stuff... They are known as the big players... :eek:
Remember the herd of mainland chinese investors coming in to scoop up Thomson G some months back? They don't even blink an eye on the high psf of this project and just signed on the dotted line. Do you think they bother about the 10% ABSD? They only need a place to sit their cash to wait out the recession before their own country swallow their hard earn cash... They surely don't mind paying a bit more to find a nice place to park their money than to risk losing big time through stocks and other stuff... They are known as the big players... :eek:
Foreigner investor fry up prices for profits, out of nowhere hit with saddening CMs and likelihood more CMs to come if this latest CMs don't work.
who will subject themselves to the lurking CMsssssss. Unless big big discount?
I alrdy post discount of 125k on sunshine plaza, why u don't bite the bait? Since u so bullish
Foreigner investor fry up prices for profits, out of nowhere hit with saddening CMs and likelihood more CMs to come if this latest CMs don't work.
who will subject themselves to the lurking CMsssssss. Unless big big discount?
I alrdy post discount of 125k on sunshine plaza, why u don't bite the bait? Since u so bullishLol me not bullish... in fact me voted in the other thread a 10% price correction... me bearish in fact... sunshine plaza is attractive indeed and v near my work place but me just committed to antoher property liao so not looking yet... maybe next couple of months when prices come down further (see me bearish).. :)
Lol me not bullish... in fact me voted in the other thread a 10% price correction... me bearish in fact... sunshine plaza is attractive indeed and v near my work place but me just committed to antoher property liao so not looking yet... maybe next couple of months when prices come down further (see me bearish).. :)
Pls dnt be denial and later ask for ventilated room.
Noone can help us, except ourselves.
I wonder itzi more painful to missed the boat, or painful to be in a sinking boat. Where do I stand? I cash out, not a missed boater, nor stuck in a sinking boat.
For those name callers, seriously I wanna see bubble to burst and see more jump the reservoir. Don't wrry for me k, I got more funds coming in. K can easily keep afloat
Pls dnt be denial and later ask for ventilated room.
Noone can help us, except ourselves.
I wonder itzi more painful to missed the boat, or painful to be in a sinking boat. Where do I stand? I cash out, not a missed boater, nor stuck in a sinking boat.
For those name callers, seriously I wanna see bubble to burst and see more jump the reservoir. Don't wrry for me k, I got more funds coming in. K can easily keep afloatGood that you have cash to keep afloat. I was writing what I observe. Not reflective of my current situation... Lol! Any agreed that we should not expect govt to help us. Any help is a bonus...
Sinking boat refers to seller who cannot sell. Missed boat refers to buyers who find prices are climbing beyond their reach or sellers who find prices falling too quickly and too painful to sell? For current situation, missed boat or sinking boat only refers to sellers. I'm not in that category like you so I guess I'm also not in need of ventilation. Just pointing out my observation... you too sensitive lah... Cheer up. Give u a beer! :cheers5:
Good that you have cash to keep afloat. I was writing what I observe. Not reflective of my current situation... Lol! Any agreed that we should not expect govt to help us. Any help is a bonus...
Sinking boat refers to seller who cannot sell. Missed boat refers to buyers who find prices are climbing beyond their reach or sellers who find prices falling too quickly and too painful to sell? For current situation, missed boat or sinking boat only refers to sellers. I'm not in that category like you so I guess I'm also not in need of ventilation. Just pointing out my observation... you too sensitive lah... Cheer up. Give u a beer! :cheers5:
I'm disgusted by names calling by some kacha buteh owners, owning a hdb and a pathetic mm condo. Or some 1st timers/newbies
U know who u are.
I will post firesale of ur development, with pics of caveats and ads.. From 2012 onwards
rattydrama
11-12-11, 15:25
I'm disgusted by names calling by some kacha buteh owners, owning a hdb and a pathetic mm condo. Or some 1st timers/newbies
U know who u are.
I will post firesale of ur development, with pics of caveats and ads.. From 2012 onwards
keep coming and thank you!
:cheers5:
I'm disgusted by names calling by some kacha buteh owners, owning a hdb and a pathetic mm condo. Or some 1st timers/newbies
U know who u are.
I will post firesale of ur development, with pics of caveats and ads.. From 2012 onwardsThen you must be so irritated by Mr B... :o Anyway you can never tell who owns a hdb and a pathetic mm condo. Well, do whatever makes you feel better... and in so posting, help the rest of us who are looking to buy in 2012... :cheers1:
Unlikely foreigners like this kinda feeling.
Drop by 30%,
which means other enjoy 30% discount, foreigners only 20%:mad:
It's not fair:scared-1:
"Why shld I pay more" is in everyone mindset
Unless we see a absolute dead market, but if there is any unit sold along the way, do you think it will be bought be locals or foreigners?
Locals will buy first because no penalty whereas foreigners & then PRs got penalty mah!
After locals bought already at 20-30% discount, price drop another 30-40% due to worsening Europe & China, all cooling measures no choice have to be removed, foreigners now got incentive to come in to buy,l and CHEAP CHEAP some more! They will happily kiss some people's ass for creating the perfect crash from the cooling measures which also signal to them not to buy and then later signal to them to buy cheap cheap! :banghead:
Unless we see a absolute dead market, but if there is any unit sold along the way, do you think it will be bought be locals or foreigners?
Interestingly today i met an old friend he owns a 5rm flat in hdb he told me last month he and his wife bought a 2 bedder condo brand new one in hougang ave 7 called parc viera or something...he is a normal working joe and he seems unfazed by the whole saga playing in the property market...
his theory is that when his condo completed..he will move in there and rent out his HDB...i find it quite a change from what i been hearing inthis forum reading in papers on the news...seems like to the man on the street property is the way to go....:rolleyes:
anyway god bless...hope his investments dont turn sour...:o
blackjack21trader
11-12-11, 17:03
Interestingly today i met an old friend he owns a 5rm flat in hdb he told me last month he and his wife bought a 2 bedder condo brand new one in hougang ave 7 called parc viera or something...he is a normal working joe and he seems unfazed by the whole saga playing in the property market...
his theory is that when his condo completed..he will move in there and rent out his HDB...i find it quite a change from what i been hearing inthis forum reading in papers on the news...seems like to the man on the street property is the way to go....:rolleyes:
anyway god bless...hope his investments dont turn sour...:o
Like bro ysyap said, your neighbor's investment really depends on how US and Euro play out in the next few months. China has no need to control her inflation now. I hope the angmo can come up with something creative to do some basic canning on the backside of bears lah. I mean they can come up with 3Dstudiomax and Maya computer 3D animation to save her movie industry, what they can't imagine to solve?
blackjack21trader
11-12-11, 17:07
Like bro ysyap said, your neighbor's investment really depends on how US and Euro play out in the next few months. China has no need to control her inflation now. I hope the angmo can come up with something creative to do some basic canning on the backside of bears lah. I mean they can come up with 3Dstudiomax and Maya computer 3D animation to save her movie industry, what they can't imagine to solve?
I remember last time while I was running the National Service Army IPPT run, my Ah beng buddy always ran beside me and panted: "you can do it, you can do it one...". Wahlaueh... after the mental psycho...I really did it leh ! Now the whole world is telling the angmo : "you can do it, you can do it one lah !"
IMO, the additional stamp duty mainly targets short term speculator, and finacially stretched investors from Singapore property market. It didn't affect real demand. Most people knows next year is likely to be recession year, whether there is a additional stamp duty, price is dropping when recession hit.
If economy improves next year, Singapore is still attractive in property investment compared to many Asia countries. Foreigners will continue to invest into Singapore... As long as economy doesn't worsen, price should not dip much..
If what you said is their real intention, oh no, looks like wrong policy! Regardless, foreigners will get lost Liao & you think they to come back to be carrot head? oh no!
IMO, the additional stamp duty mainly targets short term speculator, and finacially stretched investors from Singapore property market. It didn't affect real demand. Most people knows next year is likely to be recession year, whether there is a additional stamp duty, price is dropping when recession hit.
If economy improves next year, Singapore is still attractive in property investment compared to many Asia countries. Foreigners will continue to invest into Singapore... As long as economy doesn't worsen, price should not dip much..
If what you said is their real intention, oh no, looks like wrong policy! Regardless, foreigners will get lost Liao & you think they to come back to be carrot head? oh no!
We should look at this as a change in tax system, and a differentiator to Singaporean, PR and foreigners. In stock market, we have speculative penny stock and stable blue chips. I guess Singapore just want to be blue chip in property market and discourage small time punters.
in investment, as long as ROI is attractive and fair governing rules, no one should seen this as carrot head.
blackjack21trader
11-12-11, 18:29
We should look at this as a change in tax system, and a differentiator to Singaporean, PR and foreigners. In stock market, we have speculative penny stock and stable blue chips. I guess Singapore just want to be blue chip in property market and discourage small time punters.
in investment, as long as ROI is attractive and fair governing rules, no one should seen this as carrot head.
The drop for new property will not be more than 30%, most likely max. 5% because developer's margin is less than that. Anyway, the difference between a new property and an old one is about 20%. So this gap has been bridged and we could see resale for old properties transaction started to go up in the next few months.
Just returned from BBQ in chalet at Pasir Ris.
Neighbouring unit was booked by Filipinos. They are really having a lot of fun, w good food, full of games, excitement, scream and noise.
Totally drown the sound of the local youngsters in nearby units.
Like I said, foreigners are enjoying and having great fun in this country.
While locals waited patiently for price to drop, I think the foreigners will pick up the discounted props even when it is 10% higher.
Just returned from BBQ in chalet at Pasir Ris.
Neighbouring unit was booked by Filipinos. They are really having a lot of fun, w good food, full of games, excitement, scream and noise.
Totally drown the sound of the local youngsters in nearby units.
Like I said, foreigners are enjoying and having great fun in this country.
While locals waited patiently for price to drop, I think the foreigners will pick up the discounted props even when it is 10% higher.
how come the filipinos at chalet..?? if rich enuff, should be at some rented condo as min.
dont worth-ship the filipinos maid, as your future buyers ok:D
how come the filipinos at chalet..?? if rich enuff, should be at some rented condo as min.
dont worth-ship the filipinos maid, as your future buyers ok:D
They have already long infiltrated into our PMET jobs.
I was most pissed off when I was charge $50 by a Pinoy doctor in neighbourhood clinic for some basic rashes cream three years back, and never revisited after then.
the whole of philipines is working abroad asia/america/europe/saudi....but they dont bother me as much as the ABNN....:simmering:
Just returned from BBQ in chalet at Pasir Ris.
Neighbouring unit was booked by Filipinos. They are really having a lot of fun, w good food, full of games, excitement, scream and noise.
Totally drown the sound of the local youngsters in nearby units.
Like I said, foreigners are enjoying and having great fun in this country.
While locals waited patiently for price to drop, I think the foreigners will pick up the discounted props even when it is 10% higher.Yup... foreigners will park their money where its safe... 10% more just for that additional security fee.. they'll gladly pay... :cheers6:
devilplate
11-12-11, 21:45
Dear brother ysyap, you are always so kind and considerate! yes indeed your are right, but I feel the risks for owners with more than 3 properties is higher now. And I fear they may become the kancheong spiders like some developers hor. That is why I address to them only mah.
Those wif more den 3ppty shdnt sell at all....buy back nid to pay 3% more ok?
Entry px for being a super landlord had just been raised by 3% more! ;)
Those wif more den 3ppty shdnt sell at all....buy back nid to pay 3% more ok?
Entry px for being a super landlord had just been raised by 3% more! ;)
jokes aside.
what is 3% for the 3rd property, if u can buy cheaper. its a cost saving.
if u can buy 10-30% cheaper, would you not sell the existing property..??
jokes aside.
what is 3% for the 3rd property, if u can buy cheaper. its a cost saving.
if u can buy 10-30% cheaper, would you not sell the existing property..??Sell now buy later is always a gamble... what if price correction is only 10%? You pay agent 1%, plus 6% BSD, plus minor reno, you might end up paying more... going casino? :o
phantom_opera
11-12-11, 21:55
The Bishan 8 tragedy has been forgotten guys,
BISHAN 8 Condominium 63 Bishan Street 21 20 108 685000 589.25 10-Dec-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium 61 Bishan Street 21 20 108 663000 570.32 6-Oct-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium 61 Bishan Street 21 20 108 653000 561.72 18-Sep-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium 63 Bishan Street 21 20 108 670000 576.34 10-Sep-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium 61 Bishan Street 21 20 108 668730 575.25 21-Jul-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium Bishan Street 21 108 687000 590.97 02-Apr-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium Bishan Street 21 109 670000 571.06 02-Mar-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium Bishan Street 21 144 770000 496.77 02-Mar-03
devilplate
11-12-11, 21:55
jokes aside.
what is 3% for the 3rd property, if u can buy cheaper. its a cost saving.
if u can buy 10-30% cheaper, would you not sell the existing property..??
U oredi noe tats a joke wat....hehehe
devilplate
11-12-11, 21:57
The Bishan 8 tragedy has been forgotten guys,
BISHAN 8 Condominium 63 Bishan Street 21 20 108 685000 589.25 10-Dec-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium 61 Bishan Street 21 20 108 663000 570.32 6-Oct-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium 61 Bishan Street 21 20 108 653000 561.72 18-Sep-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium 63 Bishan Street 21 20 108 670000 576.34 10-Sep-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium 61 Bishan Street 21 20 108 668730 575.25 21-Jul-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium Bishan Street 21 108 687000 590.97 02-Apr-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium Bishan Street 21 109 670000 571.06 02-Mar-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium Bishan Street 21 144 770000 496.77 02-Mar-03
Very nice! BR gona firesale at 600psf soon....patience will pay off ;)
The Bishan 8 tragedy has been forgotten guys,
BISHAN 8 Condominium 63 Bishan Street 21 20 108 685000 589.25 10-Dec-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium 61 Bishan Street 21 20 108 663000 570.32 6-Oct-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium 61 Bishan Street 21 20 108 653000 561.72 18-Sep-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium 63 Bishan Street 21 20 108 670000 576.34 10-Sep-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium 61 Bishan Street 21 20 108 668730 575.25 21-Jul-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium Bishan Street 21 108 687000 590.97 02-Apr-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium Bishan Street 21 109 670000 571.06 02-Mar-03
BISHAN 8 Condominium Bishan Street 21 144 770000 496.77 02-Mar-03
what tragedy..? u want which year caveats for bishan 8, i put up for u la.
so hard to visualise
phantom_opera
11-12-11, 22:00
Sell now buy later is always a gamble... what if price correction is only 10%? You pay agent 1%, plus 6% BSD, plus minor reno, you might end up paying more... going casino? :o
what if sell, buy STI ETF, up 60% in 5y but property price barely up 12% in next 5y?
devilplate
11-12-11, 22:02
what tragedy..? u want which year caveats for bishan 8, i put up for u la.
so hard to visualise
Pls provide initial launch px
Very nice! BR gona firesale at 600psf soon....patience will pay off ;)
B4 tt happens, pls hire a bunch of teenagers to queue up for ur turn. Those in front of ur queue number will pounce at $1100psf.
Pls provide initial launch px
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devilplate
11-12-11, 22:12
please see the attachment, as per your request:D
Bro ...dun haf 1996 caveat leh....
文武双全
忠厚老实
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Bro ...dun haf 1996 caveat leh....
top date 2001, the contract date are in 1999.
cant find.
melville park got 1996 prices.. u want..?
devilplate
11-12-11, 22:18
top date 2001, the contract date are in 1999.
cant find.
melville park got 1996 prices.. u want..?
Ic....
Ya pm me tks ;)
Ic....
Ya pm me tks ;)
bishan 8.
computed 1997(earliest date) to 1999..
for some bulls, dont see and died cock standing
bishan 8.
computed 1997(earliest date) to 1999..
for some bulls, dont see and died cock standing
caveats for 2011. BISHAN 8
so do we have any lucky owners, from bishan 8. please stand up, please stand up
any property bulls think that property prices alway goes up in straight line..??
PLEASE STANDUP, PLEASE STANDUP
:D :D
Ic....
Ya pm me tks ;)
*knock knock,
brudder u ok there..??
sooooo what ur take, abt 2 attachments
devilplate
11-12-11, 23:01
*knock knock,
brudder u ok there..??
sooooo what ur take, abt 2 attachments
Nid to set aside 7yrs of installment as emergency fund before one shd invest!
Nid to set aside 7yrs of installment as emergency fund before one shd invest!
very very honest advice.
dedicate to the bulls,please stand up please stand up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJO5HU_7_1w
there are thousand of pple on the street talking abt property, if anyone listen to the wrong one. sure lose money.
if u listen to right one, make money.
Nid to set aside 7yrs of installment as emergency fund before one shd invest!
see in my angle；
-owners lose on 7 yrs opportunity..
-owners hold 7yrs to breakeven, i can play 7yrs with 100-500% profits..
everyone can see my good intent to warned..??
with agents lurking ard, perhap easily mislead.
as we are 16% above 1996 peakest prices.
u know, i know la.
looking at price attachments, cycle abt 2-3 yrs lelong.
everyone can see my good intent to warned..??
with agents lurking ard, perhap easily mislead.
as we are 16% above 1996 peakest prices.
u know, i know la.
looking at price attachments, cycle abt 2-3 yrs lelong.
In 1996, Singapore's population was around 3.7 million, while in 2011, we have 5.1 million. This is a 42% increase. The corresponding increase in psf for Bishan 8 is $600psf to $1000psf, a 67% increase over the same period. People are paying a premium for location near MRT and amenities now. Once the GPS-based ERP is up, cars are like taxis and will be taxed even more. The invisible cost of living far away from town center/MRT will be quite high. It will be more true in the next 5 years. Hence property investments near to these nodes are still worthwhile consideration, provided one is not over-leveraged and has a stable job.
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_pop_totl&idim=country:SGP&dl=en&hl=en&q=singapore+population
Provided you are working in city or have to travel to city daily therefore living near city is crucial and more economical in the long long long long run. The most economical stance is to live near your work place which is also near your parents' place as well as your children's school. Lol! :cheers5:
any property bulls think that property prices alway goes up in straight line..??
PLEASE STANDUP, PLEASE STANDUP
:D :D
this is the risk of buying at Peak:o very lucky got mRT now...
any property bulls think that property prices alway goes up in straight line..??
PLEASE STANDUP, PLEASE STANDUP
:D :D Difficult to find bulls in recent days... most bulls have become converts... Lol! :scared-5:
devilplate
12-12-11, 11:39
Difficult to find bulls in recent days... most bulls have become converts... Lol! :scared-5:
Most bulls r sensible folks.....we dun live in self denial......but bears i not so sure....LOL
Most bulls r sensible folks.....we dun live in self denial......but bears i not so sure....LOL
Govt intention is all out to prevent prices out of reach to locals.
If this CMs don't work, whack another round CMs till the q and prices drop.
It's a battle between developer vs govt. Wanna show who's the boss here?:D
Govt intention is all out to prevent prices out of reach to locals.
If this CMs don't work, whack another round CMs till the q and prices drop.
It's a battle between developer vs govt. Wanna show who's the boss here?:D
The last thing the government wants is for price to drop :doh: Government is smart to use HDB to set the price floor. COVs for HDB in past few months are still rising.
buttercarp
12-12-11, 12:06
Govt intention is all out to prevent prices out of reach to locals.
If this CMs don't work, whack another round CMs till the q and prices drop.
It's a battle between developer vs govt. Wanna show who's the boss here?:D
Ya lor, it doesn't look good that the majority of Singaporeans live in public housing but the foreigners live in pte property.
But what to do, foreigners cannot buy public housing in the first place.
Actually it is the first timers that should be well taken care of.
Not the upgraders......
Have money then upgrade, no money then stay put.
What I feel would be better, would be to control the amount of loan one can get to buy property.
if buy today, do u think i can ask agent to back date the purchase price, so that i avoid the ABSD ?
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 12:49
Lion City :The Sunny Island where Property Prices Will Go Up in a Straight Line- Forever and Ever!
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/blackjack21trader/IMG_0788-tiltshift1.jpg
Dun bluff little chewren like me
http://singaporeresidentialpriceindex.blogspot.com/2011/02/chart-of-residential-property-price.html
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 13:15
Lion City: The Place that is Worth to Pay 10% or even more for your future.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/blackjack21trader/scan0106-tiltshift.jpg
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 13:28
Lion City: The Only Place on Earth that the Leaders will protect your Wealth like lions at the gate.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/blackjack21trader/IMG_0181-tiltshift.jpg
Lion City: The Only Place on Earth that the Leaders will protect your Wealth like lions at the gate.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/blackjack21trader/IMG_0181-tiltshift.jpgThe Transformer ride is just right up ahead... :)
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 13:35
Lion City: Where Your Children can grow up safely and well-equip with an education that is useful for the rest of their life.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/blackjack21trader/SANY0008-tiltshift.jpg
Most bulls r sensible folks.....we dun live in self denial......but bears i not so sure....LOLInteresting... how so? By 'we' you've considered yourself a bull so why u also think property price correction is coming? :scared-3:
phantom_opera
12-12-11, 13:46
I was a bull too ... but cm5 just dashed my hope of any meaningful capital appreciation potential for next 5y ... will sell even my HDB in next 2-3y (originally planned to hold another 5y) now .. fry stocks better .. China A may hit 2k soon ... will throw out my SMRT position today
http://img1.quotes.ws.126.net/chart/timechart/0000001.png?0.41643608594313264
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 13:46
Lion City: The Only Place On Earth that even exotic birds and flowers want to make a home in.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/blackjack21trader/sgflyer020-tiltshift1.jpg
I was a bull too ... but cm5 just dashed my hope of any meaningful capital appreciation potential for next 5y ... will sell even my HDB in next 2-3y (originally planned to hold another 5y) now .. fry stocks better .. China A may hit 2k soon ... will throw out my SMRT position today
http://img1.quotes.ws.126.net/chart/timechart/0000001.png?0.41643608594313264HDB, being the lowest tier of the rental market will still bring in the income. Why do u want to sell? Furthermore, you may be selling at a price lower than its potential in another 5 years. :o
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 13:49
Fellow Lion Property Owners, are you going to give up all these on the cheap?
Think About it.....
神龙股圣
NIL SINE LABORE!
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 13:54
It is sad not to have seen beauty.
It is even sadder not to have known what it is.
So what is beauty?
beauty = foreigners,
and the
beast = the govt
:D
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 13:58
So what is beauty?
Dear brother ysyap, Beauty is in the CM5.
WOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 14:00
beauty = foreigners,
and the
beast = the govt
:D
brother, I know you really meant to say
best = govt
WOAHAHAHAHAHA
Dear brother ysyap, Beauty is in the CM5.
WOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
bro, smtimes u make me wonder.
if ur a bull or a bear,
or worse.
a bear in a bull clothing
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 14:03
bro, smtimes u make me wonder.
if ur a bull or a bear,
or worse.
a bear in a bull clothing
wow.. you are dam smart. actually I am targeting the landed now getting ready to snatch from the weak holders lor.
WOAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEEHEHEH
phantom_opera
12-12-11, 14:08
HDB, being the lowest tier of the rental market will still bring in the income. Why do u want to sell? Furthermore, you may be selling at a price lower than its potential in another 5 years. :o
read amk's comment on HDB, originally i already planned to sell in 5y, now cut short due to cm5
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 14:11
read amk's comment on HDB, originally i already planned to sell in 5y, now cut short due to cm5
I still feel CM5 is targeting at private property only. Private property prices have been affecting the mentality of many HDB sellers lor.
read amk's comment on HDB, originally i already planned to sell in 5y, now cut short due to cm5Which thread?
read amk's comment on HDB, originally i already planned to sell in 5y, now cut short due to cm5
not necessary all hdb be affected..??
3/4 rm less affected, as demand higher for low,mid incomers??
phantom_opera
12-12-11, 14:30
It is gone ... rollover started, cm5 put a nail in the coffin
http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=FSTAS8600.SI&t=5y&q=l&l=on&z=l&a=v&p=e200&lang=en-SG®ion=SG
It is gone ... rollover started, cm5 put a nail in the coffin
http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=FSTAS8600.SI&t=5y&q=l&l=on&z=l&a=v&p=e200&lang=en-SG®ion=SGNot just a nail. Its the final nail... :scared-3:
If that is the real intention, why didn't they implement policies targeted at cooling those 80% citizens buying Bedok Residences at average $1350 psf and HDB resale 5m transacting at >$600k? Don't need to show who is the boss, just to let these ignorant fools to kiss their ass 10 years later for stopping them to buy at stupid price now and allowing them to buy at a cheaper price later. For a start, govt should implement the following:
1) anybody buying private property must sell their HDB.
2) any household earning less than $10k pm cannot buy private.
3) Any citizens buying OCR properties at >$1200 psf now must pay 50% ABSD! (this sure will cools OCR mass market properties and prevent them from buying at too high price!) :p
Govt intention is all out to prevent prices out of reach to locals.
If this CMs don't work, whack another round CMs till the q and prices drop.
It's a battle between developer vs govt. Wanna show who's the boss here?:D
If that is the real intention, why didn't they implement policies targeted at cooling those 80% citizens buying Bedok Residences at average $1350 psf and HDB resale 5m transacting at >$600k? Don't need to show who is the boss, just to let these ignorant fools to kiss their ass 10 years later for stopping them to buy at stupid price now and allowing them to buy at a cheaper price later. For a start, govt should implement the following:
1) anybody buying private property must sell their HDB.
2) any household earning less than $10k pm cannot buy private.
3) Any citizens buying OCR properties at >$1200 psf now must pay 50% ABSD! (this sure will cools OCR mass market properties and prevent them from buying at too high price!) :p
very good suggestions.
u never know, if the govt going to implenment ur suggestions in next few CMs..
Ai yoh, with that huge supply coming up, who will think that HDB prices can still go up 2-3 years later? :banghead:
not necessary all hdb be affected..??
3/4 rm less affected, as demand higher for low,mid incomers??
devilplate
12-12-11, 14:56
very good suggestions.
u never know, if the govt going to implenment ur suggestions in next few CMs..
I dun tink so
Remember 80% owned hdb!
Many upgradders hoping to keep hdb as their cashcow when they upgrade
I dun tink so
Remember 80% owned hdb!
Many upgradders hoping to keep hdb as their cashcow when they upgrade
govt do not encourage to keep hdb as cashcow.
remember hdb motto is to provide a cheap affordable housing for everyone.
if pple wanna flip,speculate or cashcow the hdb flats. pls go to the pte props segment playground
devilplate
12-12-11, 14:59
govt do not encourage to keep hdb as cashcow.
remember hdb motto is to provide a cheap affordable housing for everyone.
if pple wanna flip,speculate or cashcow the hdb flats. pls go to the pte props segment playground
U tink so?
Yng punks wan cheap cheap bto in mature estate but dunwan 5yrs mop ok
Y such harsh cm4 and 5 on pte ppty when it suppose to be free market leh? Somemore bias against ccr and not ocr
phantom_opera
12-12-11, 15:00
Not just a nail. Its the final nail... :scared-3:
what is scary is the volume ... the nail is damn heavy
http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=W05.SI&t=3m&q=c&l=on&z=l&a=v&p=s&lang=en-SG®ion=SG
I'm disgusted by names calling by some kacha buteh owners, owning a hdb and a pathetic mm condo. Or some 1st timers/newbies
U know who u are.
I will post firesale of ur development, with pics of caveats and ads.. From 2012 onwards
During the last crash, famous bulls all disapperaed from this forum. The pain of reading about the droping psfs was just too much to bear.Only buyers were left discussing the 30 percent falls in this and that condo.
The discussions then was centered solely on psf dropped xx% and only if it drop by xx% more than I will commit. Remember the group of forummners wanting to approach investment fund to offload rivergate at super cheap psf. Not glaoting but if your report keeps coming, those days will be upon us again!! :scared-4:
devilplate
12-12-11, 15:02
what is scary is the volume ... the nail is damn heavy
http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=W05.SI&t=3m&q=c&l=on&z=l&a=v&p=s&lang=en-SG®ion=SG
Ccr is GONE
Those big high end 3kpsf+ luxury condos GONE
U tink so?
Yng punks wan cheap cheap bto in mature estate but dunwan 5yrs mop ok
Y such harsh cm4 and 5 on pte ppty when it suppose to be free market leh? Somemore bias against ccr and not ocr
yng punks/ cbcp want cheap cheap bto,but dont wana 5yrs mop.
thanks to hw many of us flip and profits. they wanna hop onto bandwagon.
will be sore-eyes to see some, keeping hdb as cashcow. while they have zero to start with.
if its implemented, there's no return to see the daylights
phantom_opera
12-12-11, 15:31
From my limited stock trading experience ... property stocks were hit by powerful gap down with high volume ... they have a lot more downside even if Dow/Europe go flat ... we are looking at at least 30% correction
Coupled with China-A breakdown today below 2.3k .... perfect storm
To survive, developers must develop super MM going forward .... they must change the motto to "affordable home for singles", 200sqft OCR studio should be price only at 150k such that 90% of Singaporean singles can afford
No lah, govt want people don't speculate private properties, hence latest CM.
No new policy to cool & prevent people keeping HDB flats for investment, despite the well known fact & problems, hence means they encourage & allow. :beats-me-man:
govt do not encourage to keep hdb as cashcow.
remember hdb motto is to provide a cheap affordable housing for everyone.
if pple wanna flip,speculate or cashcow the hdb flats. pls go to the pte props segment playground
I suggest developers built MMs with the concept like hostels, everybody owns their rooms only, use common toilets, kitchens, showers, washing areas and yards! Can sell at $3000 psf to citizens and PRs because this is encourage. Foreigners? Get lost lah! Slap them with 10% ABSD! :p
From my limited stock trading experience ... property stocks were hit by powerful gap down with high volume ... they have a lot more downside even if Dow/Europe go flat ... we are looking at at least 30% correction
Coupled with China-A breakdown today below 2.3k .... perfect storm
To survive, developers must develop super MM going forward .... they must change the motto to "affordable home for singles", 200sqft OCR studio should be price only at 150k such that 90% of Singaporean singles can afford
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 15:44
I suggest developers built MMs with the concept like hostels, everybody owns their rooms only, use common toilets, kitchens, showers, washing areas and yards! Can sell at $3000 psf to citizens and PRs because this is encourage. Foreigners? Get lost lah! Slap them with 10% ABSD! :p
size maybe possible 10 years later. But common toilets cannot lah...the young punks won't bite lah...you know how anti-social and selfish they are ? from the way they pressure our dear MIW, you know how rebellious they can be hor.
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 15:47
size maybe possible 10 years later. But common toilets cannot lah...the young punks won't bite lah...you know how anti-social and selfish they are ? from the way they pressure our dear MIW, you know how rebellious they can be hor.
As a matter of fact, my nephews and nieces have been complaining about high property prices and how they will be unable to afford since they just graduated. Heard this since they were teens and I thought to myself-- one fine day...something like this CM5 will happen lah..just never expected so soon and so BIG !!!!
WOAHAHAAHAHAHAH
devilplate
12-12-11, 15:51
From my limited stock trading experience ... property stocks were hit by powerful gap down with high volume ... they have a lot more downside even if Dow/Europe go flat ... we are looking at at least 30% correction
Coupled with China-A breakdown today below 2.3k .... perfect storm
To survive, developers must develop super MM going forward .... they must change the motto to "affordable home for singles", 200sqft OCR studio should be price only at 150k such that 90% of Singaporean singles can afford
Developers can always bid low low for future gls since the rules has been changed
Ocr not near mrt used to command 300-400psf ppr rite? Now developer can bid 100-150psf and sell at 600psf ;)
For ocr near mrt 150-250psf can sell at 700psf ;)
Ocr still can sell one la....
Its those high end ones how? In 2003, orchard rd condos how much ar? 1-1.5kpsf? Hehehe
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 15:51
Just a little advice from your humble brother here: Watch your kids on the social networks hor...Not something to be trifle with. One kid may be childish and navie, but add that to 100 kids together they can beat any of us in intelligence within one second. Beware...beware..
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 15:53
Developers can always bid low low for future gls since the rules has been changed
Ocr not near mrt used to command 300-400psf ppr rite? Now developer can bid 100-150psf and sell at 600psf ;)
For ocr near mrt 150-250psf can sell at 700psf ;)
Ocr still can sell one la....
Its those high end ones how? In 2003, orchard rd condos how much ar? 1-1.5kpsf? Hehehe
you still think can be 1.5kpsf ? you must be joking lah...more like 800-900psf !!!!
phantom_opera
12-12-11, 15:54
Developers can always bid low low for future gls since the rules has been changed
Ocr not near mrt used to command 300-400psf ppr rite? Now developer can bid 100-150psf and sell at 600psf ;)
For ocr near mrt 150-250psf can sell at 700psf ;)
Ocr still can sell one la....
Its those high end ones how? In 2003, orchard rd condos how much ar? 1-1.5kpsf? Hehehe
You will be shocked:
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 261 River Valley Road 9 147 1183000 747.65psf 19-Apr-04
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 261 River Valley Road 9 105 888000 785.69psf 06-Apr-04
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 261 River Valley Road 23 82 755000 855.39psf 4-Nov-03
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 263 River Valley Road 9 123 1.21e+006 913.92psf 1-Aug-03
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium River Valley Road 147 1300000 821.59 02-Jul-03
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 261 River Valley Road 9 149 1.2e+006 748.21psf 29-Jul-03
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 15:56
In 2004, I went to view one apartment in Hor-Lan Road. The young teenage girl like 15 years old was negotiating the price with me and my wife on behalf of her parents !!! Wahlaueh..IS THIS REAL ? She told me that they very pitiful hor...because their condo last time very big land, then their swimming pool was cut for the road. Ask my wife to pity her....WAHLAUEH !!!!!! This was SO UNREAL hor. I was thinking how to make them bite the carrot next time when I sell to this group of young punks lah.
phantom_opera
12-12-11, 15:56
http://i2.propertyguru.com.sg/images/thumb/d/1/f/4/d1f4ac16128941_1_V550.jpg
even OCR under firesales !!!
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 15:58
http://i2.propertyguru.com.sg/images/thumb/d/1/f/4/d1f4ac16128941_1_V550.jpg
even OCR under firesales !!!
Ian Ho...dun sabo your big brother leh
WOAHAHAHAHAHAHA
devilplate
12-12-11, 15:59
you still think can be 1.5kpsf ? you must be joking lah...more like 800-900psf !!!!
I mean hardcore orchard rd condos like ardmore park.....hehehehe
Just a little advice from your humble brother here: Watch your kids on the social networks hor...Not something to be trifle with. One kid may be childish and navie, but add that to 100 kids together they can beat any of us in intelligence within one second. Beware...beware..
Is this from your personal experience? I read that you have 1 or 2 kids right?
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 16:01
Is this from your personal experience? I read that you have 1 or 2 kids right?
yes lah..that is correct.
devilplate
12-12-11, 16:02
You will be shocked:
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 261 River Valley Road 9 147 1183000 747.65psf 19-Apr-04
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 261 River Valley Road 9 105 888000 785.69psf 06-Apr-04
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 261 River Valley Road 23 82 755000 855.39psf 4-Nov-03
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 263 River Valley Road 9 123 1.21e+006 913.92psf 1-Aug-03
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium River Valley Road 147 1300000 821.59 02-Jul-03
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 261 River Valley Road 9 149 1.2e+006 748.21psf 29-Jul-03
Bro....can u publish 2003 ardmore park px? Whahaha
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 16:02
I mean hardcore orchard rd condos like ardmore park.....hehehehe
you very greedy hor..same like me....WOAHHEHEHEHEHEEH
blackjack21trader
12-12-11, 16:03
Bro....can u publish 2003 ardmore park px? Whahaha
yes brother ghost, pls help :)
phantom_opera
12-12-11, 16:05
ARDMORE PARK Condominium 9 Ardmore Park 10 268 3700000 1282.62 02-Dec-03
ARDMORE PARK Condominium 11 Ardmore Park 25 268 3810000 1320.75 10-Nov-03
ARDMORE PARK Condominium 11 Ardmore Park 10 268 4.5e+006 1559.94 12-Sep-03
ARDMORE PARK Condominium 15 Ardmore Park 10 268 4.5e+006 1559.94 28-Aug-03
ARDMORE PARK Condominium 9 Ardmore Park 10 268 3.75e+006 1299.95 7-Aug-03
devilplate
12-12-11, 16:09
ARDMORE PARK Condominium 9 Ardmore Park 10 268 3700000 1282.62 02-Dec-03
ARDMORE PARK Condominium 11 Ardmore Park 25 268 3810000 1320.75 10-Nov-03
ARDMORE PARK Condominium 11 Ardmore Park 10 268 4.5e+006 1559.94 12-Sep-03
ARDMORE PARK Condominium 15 Ardmore Park 10 268 4.5e+006 1559.94 28-Aug-03
ARDMORE PARK Condominium 9 Ardmore Park 10 268 3.75e+006 1299.95 7-Aug-03
Now average 3kpsf.....drop by 50% about there lor....
But hor i still cannot afford hor...4mil+++ whahahaha
phantom_opera
12-12-11, 16:16
Waterfront Isle from $990psf onwards*
For Singaporeans and PRs
Stamp Duty Reimbursement + Furniture Vouchers*
Special privilege for first time HDB upgraders for limited period only*. Find out more at our sales gallery or call 6534 8000.
*Terms & Conditions apply. For a limited time only.
Over 90% sold. High-floor premium units with great views!
lol ... FEO damn good
Waterfront Isle from $990psf onwards*
For Singaporeans and PRs
Stamp Duty Reimbursement + Furniture Vouchers*
Special privilege for first time HDB upgraders for limited period only*. Find out more at our sales gallery or call 6534 8000.
*Terms & Conditions apply. For a limited time only.
Over 90% sold. High-floor premium units with great views!
lol ... FEO damn good
If I remember correctly it was around $900 psf when I visited the showroom. So much fat margin still left after *5%* discount.
devilplate
12-12-11, 16:25
I want 600psf starbuy like wfw again! Hehe
Ai yoh, how about Kembangan condo $450 psf? now $1100 psf! You will be more shocked by OCR price rise!
That is still chicken feet： The mother of all bubble is HDB resale flat! You will be more shocked by HDB resale flats price rise!!!
Oh strange, why no cooling measures for above both hah? :beats-me-man:
You will be shocked:
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 261 River Valley Road 9 147 1183000 747.65psf 19-Apr-04
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 261 River Valley Road 9 105 888000 785.69psf 06-Apr-04
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 261 River Valley Road 23 82 755000 855.39psf 4-Nov-03
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 263 River Valley Road 9 123 1.21e+006 913.92psf 1-Aug-03
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium River Valley Road 147 1300000 821.59 02-Jul-03
ASPEN HEIGHTS Condominium 261 River Valley Road 9 149 1.2e+006 748.21psf 29-Jul-03
Ai yoh, how about Kembangan condo $450 psf? now $1100 psf! You will be more shocked by OCR price rise!
That is still chicken feet： The mother of all bubble is HDB resale flat! You will be more shocked by HDB resale flats price rise!!!
Oh strange, why no cooling measures for above both hah? :beats-me-man:
LKY already said value of HDB will increase. No MIWs will dare to go against that, not even his son...
For foreigners, -10% ABSD absorbed! End up they buy cheaper than citizens! :doh:
Waterfront Isle from $990psf onwards*
For Singaporeans and PRs
Stamp Duty Reimbursement + Furniture Vouchers*
Special privilege for first time HDB upgraders for limited period only*. Find out more at our sales gallery or call 6534 8000.
*Terms & Conditions apply. For a limited time only.
Over 90% sold. High-floor premium units with great views!
lol ... FEO damn good
Oh I see, "bubble" will not apply to HDB flat prices! What bubble? Is it the aim to enable almost all HDB residents to upgrade to CCR condos? :p
Better wait for Ardmore Park to drop to $1000 psf before buying! :cheers4:
LKY already said value of HDB will increase. No MIWs will dare to go against that, not even his son...
Oh I see, "bubble" will not apply to HDB flat prices! What bubble? Is it the aim to enable almost all HDB residents to upgrade to CCR condos? :p
A compression is being applied to property prices in the middle. HDB upwards and luxury condos downwards. Mass market condos will be stagnant for the next 5 years at least. A window is opened to allow upgraders to move to DBSS or ECs, from ECs to pte condos. GLS is increased to create more ECs and condo units for upgraders.
devilplate
12-12-11, 17:37
A compression is being applied to property prices in the middle. HDB upwards and luxury condos downwards. Mass market condos will be stagnant for the next 5 years at least. A window is opened to allow upgraders to move to DBSS or ECs, from ECs to pte condos. GLS is increased to create more ECs and condo units for upgraders.
hdb 400psf, ocr 600psf, rcr 800psf, orchard 1kpsf
wah lau....goes back to wat i bot in 09 and some even below.....
lets form a support group when volcano erupt comes ok ;)
hdb 400psf, ocr 600psf, rcr 800psf, orchard 1kpsf
wah lau....goes back to wat i bot in 09 and some even below.....
lets form a support group when volcano erupt comes ok ;)
You are a full time landlord, you will get information faster and move faster. Got real fire-sale you surely whack 1 more unit.
phantom_opera
12-12-11, 17:50
You are a full time landlord, you will get information faster and move faster. Got real fire-sale you surely whack 1 more unit.
no la ... property is for own stay, maximum two, you don't listen to Ah Gong? DP will probably sell off everything and move to Ardmore Park :D
HDB lose face man. If they sell DBSS and mature estate BTO for 500-700psf and allow it to slip to 400psf. I think that will piss a lot of HDB home owners.
Won't lah, HDB cannot touch one, so no cooling measure mah. Since so many HDB residents want to upgrade, so they all get the CM to help them to upgrade. Private condos will soon be cheaper than resale HDB! :cheers5:
HDB lose face man. If they sell DBSS and mature estate BTO for 500-700psf and allow it to slip to 400psf. I think that will piss a lot of HDB home owners.
Won't lah, HDB cannot touch one, so no cooling measure mah. Since so many HDB residents want to upgrade, so they all get the CM to help them to upgrade. Private condos will soon be cheaper than resale HDB! :cheers5:
HDB = luxury, PC = slum. That will be quite a defining moment.
Oh yes, the public pool is just 2 busstops down. The gym is right beside the pool and other sporting facilities are within 10 mins walk also. Yes yes... hdb is a bigger condo with full facilities lor... check out the project called Seng Kang and Punggol as well as Bedok and Tampines. The developer is HDB. ;)
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 06:55
Dear brothers...I have been thinking hard about CM5...so hard that every night I only falling in and out of sleep like 3 hours....yes brothers....then this morning a butterfly landed on the pot of purple Orchid in my garden. And this is what the butterfly told me:
There is a price gap of more than 10% between new development and old resale property hor.
Why should foreigner have the better advantage of buying new development over us by their sheer buying power? This is simply not fair to us!
In the resale markets, there are so many older but bigger private condos that are like 10-20% cheaper than the current new development.
The butterfly said the foreigner can go buy our old resale condo instead la or just rent from us first. So dun need to worry for them and give discount to them hor...
The butterfly also said that in the foreigners' homelands, very difficult to find a good paying job and a secure life for their families like in the Lion City hor.
The butterfly then flew in a few circles around the Orchid flower and continued to tell me: Why should foreigners buy uncompleted properties if their real intention is to stay here for a better life? Shouldn't they go for resale one instead? Unless some of them have the intention to flip lor...
The butterfly then flew up in a straight line into the sky and then fly down and landed on my palm. The butterfly said: See, if you have more and more foreigners buying uncompleted new projects, the ones ended up carrying the durians could be Singaporeans buying back from them hor....
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 07:07
Dear brothers...I have been thinking hard about CM5...so hard that every night I only falling in and out of sleep like 3 hours....yes brothers....then this morning a butterfly landed on the pot of purple Orchid in my garden. And this is what the butterfly told me:
There is a price gap of more than 10% between new development and old resale property hor.
Why should foreigner have the better advantage of buying new development over us by their sheer buying power? This is simply not fair to us!
In the resale markets, there are so many older but bigger private condos that are like 10-20% cheaper than the current new development.
The butterfly said the foreigner can go buy our old resale condo instead la or just rent from us first. So dun need to worry for them and give discount to them hor...
The butterfly also said that in the foreigners' homelands, very difficult to find a good paying job and a secure life for their families like in the Lion City hor.
The butterfly then flew in a few circles around the Orchid flower and continued to tell me: Why should foreigners buy uncompleted properties if their real intention is to stay here for a better life? Shouldn't they go for resale one instead? Unless some of them have the intention to flip lor...
The butterfly then flew up in a straight line into the sky and then fly down and landed on my palm. The butterfly said: See, if you have more and more foreigners buying uncompleted new projects, the ones ended up carrying the durians could be Singaporeans buying back from them hor....
Then the butterfly flew away from my palm, made a few circles around the Orchid flower and turned into a very beautiful naked woman standing right infront of me.
Wahlaueh! Luckily my wife is sleeping upstairs.... anyway, she continued to tell me: This was not right, foreigners majority ended up with new developments, and local Singaporeans carrying old condos.
CM5 is a good measure that will ultimately benefit everyone and correct the wrongs. you will see. Before the foreigners want to take over our property markets, they better buy the older stocks first hor !
Well, before I could kiss to thank her, she turned back into a butterfly and flew off liao....
:doh:
神龙股圣
nil sine labore!
Then the butterfly flew away from my palm, made a few circles around the Orchid flower and turned into a very beautiful naked woman standing right infront of me.
Wahlaueh! Luckily my wife is sleeping upstairs.... anyway, she continued to tell me: This was not right, foreigners majority ended up with new developments, and local Singaporeans carrying old condos.
CM5 is a good measure that will ultimately benefit everyone and correct the wrongs. you will see. Before the foreigners want to take over our property markets, they better buy the older stocks first hor !
Well, before I could kiss to thank her, she turned back into a butterfly and flew off liao....
:doh:
神龙股圣
nil sine labore!
新鸳鸯蝴蝶梦！！！！ ;)
Slight correction, resale is about 20-30% cheaper than new developments in the vicinity.
phantom_opera
13-12-11, 08:09
my 3d conclusion has turned me into a bear ... i only need proof at next land bid, where is the next GLS ... better not besides my investment units
imagine Bedok Residences 1,350psf, next land bid at Tanah Merah near MRT is 300psf :banghead:
Palette already selling cheaper than Livia even b4 CM5, down the road all new sales will be cheaper (also developers may secretly give foreigners compensation if interested to buy many units/entire block)... resale/subsale confirmed die
Someone should start a poll for target psf next land bid
rattydrama
13-12-11, 08:18
There is a reserve price for all gls. Gov may not sell if too low.
And that does not translate into low psf to owners from the developer.
I think it will be how weak owners can tahan the reduction of price. if the market moves to 30% off, gov will intervene.
They will only intervene when private cool to cheaper than HDB & >70% of them HDBers upgraded to private & now whine that private too cheap how can? No policy to increase private will vote the blue shirts instead of white! :doh:
There is a reserve price for all gls. Gov may not sell if too low.
And that does not translate into low psf to owners from the developer.
I think it will be how weak owners can tahan the reduction of price. if the market moves to 30% off, gov will intervene.
Dear brothers...I have been thinking hard about CM5...so hard that every night I only falling in and out of sleep like 3 hours....yes brothers....then this morning a butterfly landed on the pot of purple Orchid in my garden. And this is what the butterfly told me:
There is a price gap of more than 10% between new development and old resale property hor.
Why should foreigner have the better advantage of buying new development over us by their sheer buying power? This is simply not fair to us!
In the resale markets, there are so many older but bigger private condos that are like 10-20% cheaper than the current new development.
The butterfly said the foreigner can go buy our old resale condo instead la or just rent from us first. So dun need to worry for them and give discount to them hor...
The butterfly also said that in the foreigners' homelands, very difficult to find a good paying job and a secure life for their families like in the Lion City hor.
The butterfly then flew in a few circles around the Orchid flower and continued to tell me: Why should foreigners buy uncompleted properties if their real intention is to stay here for a better life? Shouldn't they go for resale one instead? Unless some of them have the intention to flip lor...
The butterfly then flew up in a straight line into the sky and then fly down and landed on my palm. The butterfly said: See, if you have more and more foreigners buying uncompleted new projects, the ones ended up carrying the durians could be Singaporeans buying back from them hor....
Its true. I was the butterfly.
Then the butterfly flew away from my palm, made a few circles around the Orchid flower and turned into a very beautiful naked woman standing right infront of me.
Wahlaueh! Luckily my wife is sleeping upstairs.... anyway, she continued to tell me: This was not right, foreigners majority ended up with new developments, and local Singaporeans carrying old condos.
CM5 is a good measure that will ultimately benefit everyone and correct the wrongs. you will see. Before the foreigners want to take over our property markets, they better buy the older stocks first hor !
Well, before I could kiss to thank her, she turned back into a butterfly and flew off liao....
:doh:
神龙股圣
nil sine labore!
You have a weak spot for sweet young thing. It was an illusion I created.
phantom_opera
13-12-11, 08:34
There is a reserve price for all gls. Gov may not sell if too low.
And that does not translate into low psf to owners from the developer.
I think it will be how weak owners can tahan the reduction of price. if the market moves to 30% off, gov will intervene.
if they keep rejecting, property developers share price will fall off the cliff ... it means property developers cannot do biz
already selling pressure will mount again for property stocks
Dear brothers...I have been thinking hard about CM5...so hard that every night I only falling in and out of sleep like 3 hours....yes brothers....then this morning a butterfly landed on the pot of purple Orchid in my garden. And this is what the butterfly told me:
There is a price gap of more than 10% between new development and old resale property hor.
Why should foreigner have the better advantage of buying new development over us by their sheer buying power? This is simply not fair to us!
In the resale markets, there are so many older but bigger private condos that are like 10-20% cheaper than the current new development.
The butterfly said the foreigner can go buy our old resale condo instead la or just rent from us first. So dun need to worry for them and give discount to them hor...
The butterfly also said that in the foreigners' homelands, very difficult to find a good paying job and a secure life for their families like in the Lion City hor.
The butterfly then flew in a few circles around the Orchid flower and continued to tell me: Why should foreigners buy uncompleted properties if their real intention is to stay here for a better life? Shouldn't they go for resale one instead? Unless some of them have the intention to flip lor...
The butterfly then flew up in a straight line into the sky and then fly down and landed on my palm. The butterfly said: See, if you have more and more foreigners buying uncompleted new projects, the ones ended up carrying the durians could be Singaporeans buying back from them hor....
real joker...living in denial forever....
you must learn how to cut lost....
resale at laest 20% cheaper than new....
with 40+% to pay now, foreigners will not buy anymore....rental market will be soften due to economy crisis.....company will cut rental expenses by 50%......come big retrenchment sometime next yr, worse.....
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 09:14
real joker...living in denial forever....
you must learn how to cut lost....
resale at laest 20% cheaper than new....
with 40+% to pay now, foreigners will not buy anymore....rental market will be soften due to economy crisis.....company will cut rental expenses by 50%......come big retrenchment sometime next yr, worse.....
you keep asking me to cut..cut what? I already unloaded all my properties last year except leaving one for own stay and one in D9...with so much cash where I put them ?
That is why I said 85% already in the STI liao mah...you still dun get it arh?
My posts are optimistic because I do not want to add salt to the wounds to the current property owners hor....unlike you, keep bashing them.
Sigh....
WOAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAH
Dear brothers...I have been thinking hard about CM5...so hard that every night I only falling in and out of sleep like 3 hours....yes brothers....then this morning a butterfly landed on the pot of purple Orchid in my garden. And this is what the butterfly told me:
There is a price gap of more than 10% between new development and old resale property hor.
Why should foreigner have the better advantage of buying new development over us by their sheer buying power? This is simply not fair to us!
In the resale markets, there are so many older but bigger private condos that are like 10-20% cheaper than the current new development.
The butterfly said the foreigner can go buy our old resale condo instead la or just rent from us first. So dun need to worry for them and give discount to them hor...
The butterfly also said that in the foreigners' homelands, very difficult to find a good paying job and a secure life for their families like in the Lion City hor.
The butterfly then flew in a few circles around the Orchid flower and continued to tell me: Why should foreigners buy uncompleted properties if their real intention is to stay here for a better life? Shouldn't they go for resale one instead? Unless some of them have the intention to flip lor...
The butterfly then flew up in a straight line into the sky and then fly down and landed on my palm. The butterfly said: See, if you have more and more foreigners buying uncompleted new projects, the ones ended up carrying the durians could be Singaporeans buying back from them hor....
make alot of sense..
that why the prc come in busload to the new launch, instead resale
so you are a bear from the start, and encouraging pple to buy and hold..??
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 09:18
make alot of sense..
so you are a bear from the start, and encouraging pple to buy and hold..??
Now then you see arh, brother jwong71? Not too late lah... I always believe in helping the kancheong spiders- they lose out the most during any downturn mah. My message is very clear if you take away all the rubbish elements in them:
1) WATCH FIRST DO NOT BUY
2) IF YOU CANNOT EXIT IN TIME, HOLD LAH AND WAIT. DO NOT BE KANCHEONG.
yI already unloaded all my properties last year except leaving one for own stay and one in D9...with so much cash where I put them ?
That is why I said 85% already in the STI liao mah...you still dun get it arh?
Hey BJT and basic. Are you both the same person? It seems that both of you are out of pty and into stocks. Sick joke or what.:D
Now then you see arh, brother jwong71? Not too late lah... I always believe in helping the kancheong spiders- they lose out the most during any downturn mah.
brother, wrong. not now then i see.
is from the beginning of your thread, i alrdy see..
the more pple got sucked in the trap, the harder of a fall.
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 09:23
make alot of sense..
that why the prc come in busload to the new launch, instead resale
so you are a bear from the start, and encouraging pple to buy and hold..??
The critical element in the property market now are the developers. They had sucked up so many units on hand and so many under construction. If one of them becomes a kancheong spider...then good luck. Hence my message to them and the property owners with many properties lor.
They will sabotage the real long term investors if they become the spiders lah.
That is the last thing you want in any market- a panic selloff.
phantom_opera
13-12-11, 09:25
The critical element in the property market now are the developers. They had sucked up so many units on hand and so many under construction. If one of them becomes a kancheong spider...then good luck. Hence my message to them and the property owners with many properties lor.
They will sabotage the real long term investors if they become the spiders lah.
That is the last thing you want in any market- a panic selloff.
Already happened to China, many developers already slashing prices and plan for survival, SG is next, that's why property stock prices so weak
China A -1.33% at 2262 ....
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 09:25
Hey BJT and basic. Are you both the same person? It seems that both of you are out of pty and into stocks. Sick joke or what.:D
No lah... I am not basic.. basic got no balls to punt in the stock markets under current condition. He believes in gold & Oil. GOLD & OIL WILL ALSO CRASH HOR !
WOAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
The critical element in the property market now are the developers. They had sucked up so many units on hand and so many under construction. If one of them becomes a kancheong spider...then good luck. Hence my message to them and the property owners with many properties lor.
They will sabotage the real long term investors if they become the spiders lah.
That is the last thing you want in any market- a panic selloff.
last few quarters, i alredy come to understand that being a true long investor will get sab0tage from spiders.
i alrdy turned to hawker stalls, $40,000 for a bedok vicinity stall $2,000-$3,000 rental.
* i can share this, since kovan hawkers stall alrdy selling up to $300,000.
good anot u tell me
*anyone surprised by the returns of a hawker stall..?? :D :D
devilplate
13-12-11, 09:29
you keep asking me to cut..cut what? I already unloaded all my properties last year except leaving one for own stay and one in D9...with so much cash where I put them ?
That is why I said 85% already in the STI liao mah...you still dun get it arh?
My posts are optimistic because I do not want to add salt to the wounds to the current property owners hor....unlike you, keep bashing them.
Sigh....
WOAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAH
actually the more u post, the more ppl will dump their units actually....bcoz mostly dun make sense....whahaa
i alrdy turned to hawker stalls, $40,000 for a bedok vicinity stall $2,000-$3,000 rental.
* i can share this, since kovan hawkers stall alrdy selling up to $300,000.
good anot u tell me
Lol. Our government missed the the target this time. Now the liquidity will flood commercial, f&b and retail space and core inflation will go up and up. Sigh.:doh:
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 09:30
brother, wrong. not now then i see.
is from the beginning of your thread, i alrdy see..
the more pple got sucked in the trap, the harder of a fall.
Yes...then you have been paying attention in class.
Right from the beginning just after the election, did brother basic actually read my warnings in my other posts? Especially the part on Geylang developers?
Well, he is actually busy disagreeing and denying with brothers here...he is blind lah....
WOAHAHAHAHAHAH
devilplate
13-12-11, 09:30
No lah... I am not basic.. basic got no balls to punt in the stock markets under current condition. He believes in gold & Oil. GOLD & OIL WILL ALSO CRASH HOR !
WOAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
mr b aso say gold will crash tgt wif ppty la
actually the more u post, the more ppl will dump their units actually....bcoz mostly dun make sense....whahaa
the moment bj21 started to post, im luffing at his bedtime stories.
i know he's evil, to entice more buyers at high peak prices
to sell a dream, to the singaporeans..
well done bj21:D
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 09:31
actually the more u post, the more ppl will dump their units actually....bcoz mostly dun make sense....whahaa
wahlaueh...brother devilplate..that is the last thing I want to see happening leh...:doh:
mr b aso say gold will crash tgt wif ppty la
That's why I said both of them are one of the same. Brother from another mother.:)
devilplate
13-12-11, 09:32
last few quarters, i alredy come to understand that being a true long investor will get sab0tage from spiders.
i alrdy turned to hawker stalls, $40,000 for a bedok vicinity stall $2,000-$3,000 rental.
* i can share this, since kovan hawkers stall alrdy selling up to $300,000.
good anot u tell me
*anyone surprised by the returns of a hawker stall..?? :D :D
interesting....u buy the rights to rent at subsidized rate from govt? 40k is the tx fee rite?
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 09:33
mr b aso say gold will crash tgt wif ppty la
then I don't know where he put his money leh...chiokapeng la.....he really talk cork sing song lah..
interesting....u buy the rights to rent at subsidized rate from govt? 40k is the tx fee rite?
And the count down till the government take action has started.:)
interesting....u buy the rights to rent at subsidized rate from govt? 40k is the tx fee rite?
edited( not for sharing, again)
thanks to my sec sch mate's advise.
as he's in this eatery trade, bgt some stalls too
devilplate
13-12-11, 09:34
Lol. Our government missed the the target this time. Now the liquidity will flood commercial, f&b and retail space and core inflation will go up and up. Sigh.:doh:
tats y i feel lost.....
hold cash also losing.....
hold ppty LOST
the only way is to FRY STOCKS LIAO
phantom_opera
13-12-11, 09:35
You don't need an expert to see the key support level 2.3k for Shanghai stock market is broken already ... being the factory of the world and stock market full of insider trading, it signals recession to come to the whole world soon, our PAPA timing of CM5 is excellent to ensure a crash
Just hope that today Shanghai market can stage a surprise reversal, if down 2-3% confirmed dead meat liao
http://img1.quotes.ws.126.net/chart/kchart/90/0000001.png
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 09:36
That's why I said both of them are one of the same. Brother from another mother.:)
you see, brother avo7007...the way basic is predicting is not even a recession- he is proposing a Great Depression. `1930 Great Depression happened due to Gold perceived as a currency. That time US government will arrest you if you keep Gold. Now got people use gold as currency or not? You got see US government kancheong about high gold prices ?
devilplate
13-12-11, 09:36
wahlaueh...brother devilplate..that is the last thing I want to see happening leh...:doh:
MR B......the more he post....the more he curse and swear, the more ppl will hold and buy.....reverse pyschology
rite anot?
MR B......the more he post....the more he curse and swear, the more ppl will hold and buy.....reverse pyschology
rite anot?
you got pm.
details roughly, bgt few quarters ago..
very minimum amount, didnt bother to rember
That's why I said both of them are one of the same. Brother from another mother.:)
don't talk rubbish here....
there are tons of way to trade or invest or....your sky is limited, that is all...
tell me what you know....hahahaha.....
MR B......the more he post....the more he curse and swear, the more ppl will hold and buy.....reverse pyschology
rite anot?
LIAR KING, go ahead & buy property....the more the better....
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 09:40
don't talk rubbish here....
there are tons of way to trade or invest or....your sky is limited, that is all...
tell me what you know....hahahaha.....
dun bluff.
dun bluff.
you are so narrow....just property & stock or gold only??.....
phantom_opera
13-12-11, 09:41
bro BJ, u better quickly exit stock market, Shanghai cracked already
CASH IS KING NOW
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 09:46
bro BJ, u better quickly exit stock market, Shanghai cracked already
CASH IS KING NOW
Oh NO !!!! SHI LIAO LA......!!!!
:banghead:
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 09:47
you are so narrow....just property & stock or gold only??.....
forex, bonds, derviatives all under attack what.... what are you talking about ???
forex, bonds, derviatives all under attack what.... what are you talking about ???
Aiya, he is a known shorter lah.:)
phantom_opera
13-12-11, 09:49
Without CM5, it is a slow death, with CM5, it is immediate death
bro BJ, u better quickly exit stock market, Shanghai cracked already
CASH IS KING NOW
Yes, better get out of stocks.
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 09:51
Aiya, he is a known shorter lah.:)
so easy to shorts meh? you must use CFD which only angmo stockbrokers providing..I dun trust them la..
devilplate
13-12-11, 09:54
LIAR KING, go ahead & buy property....the more the better....
nah....the sky is falling liao
stop wasting ur reverse pyschology effort
its too late
devilplate
13-12-11, 09:56
so easy to shorts meh? you must use CFD which only angmo stockbrokers providing..I dun trust them la..
cut loss now also consider shorting wat
protect ur capital ;)
phantom_opera
13-12-11, 09:57
so easy to shorts meh? you must use CFD which only angmo stockbrokers providing..I dun trust them la..
DBXT S&PShort10US$X@
nah....the sky is falling liao
stop wasting ur reverse pyschology effort
its too late
liar king, you forever...
to me...property price will down >50% in 2-3 yrs time.....
devilplate
13-12-11, 10:01
liar king, you forever...
to me...property price will down >50% in 2-3 yrs time.....
its too late to shout
ppty px is indeed falling
hold tight tight hor....whahahaha
its too late to shout
ppty px is indeed falling
hold tight tight hor....whahahaha
haha...that is for perma bulls....
they will not listen, why argue....
ask them to hold tight tight, they will be happy.....
Yes...then you have been paying attention in class.
Right from the beginning just after the election, did brother basic actually read my warnings in my other posts? Especially the part on Geylang developers?
Well, he is actually busy disagreeing and denying with brothers here...he is blind lah....
WOAHAHAHAHAHAH
from start, i knew u selling bullshit. seldom wanna read into details,nor wanna read
in army platoon there's alway a sabo king,
in condosingapore forum also got a sabo king,
that's u!!! :D
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 10:10
from start, i knew u selling bullshit. seldom wanna read into details,nor wanna read
in army platoon there's alway a sabo king,
in condosingapore forum also got a sabo king,
that's u!!! :D
wahlaueh..bro..why call me sabo king leh...i very sad liao...
:doh: :(
devilplate
13-12-11, 10:11
from start, i knew u selling bullshit. seldom wanna read into details,nor wanna read
in army platoon there's alway a sabo king,
in condosingapore forum also got a sabo king,
that's u!!! :D
bro BJT ok mah.....i really enjoy reading his fantasies leh
sometimes i had a gd laugh....brighten up my day ;)
wahlaueh..bro..why call me sabo king leh...i very sad liao...
:doh: :(
okok.. im very srry, not sabo king..:cheers4:
:D
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 10:12
bro BJT ok mah.....i really enjoy reading his fantasies leh
sometimes i had a gd laugh....brighten up my day ;)
thanks la bro, your encouraging words is my driving force.
thanks la bro, your encouraging words is my driving force.
bro bj, sorry my words hurting.
please keep up your posts and interesting stories:D
Oh yes... his story about the foreign talent who has 2 daughters is a classic... :cheers5:
its too late to shout
ppty px is indeed falling
hold tight tight hor....whahahaha
you have been praying very hard lately. are you ready to grab?
blackjack21trader
13-12-11, 10:26
bro bj, sorry my words hurting.
please keep up your posts and interesting stories:D
aiya..never mind la....brother. My third eye tells me you must be about 42 years old and could be my camp mate also last time. maybe last time in army I called you sabo king before also la...
WOAHAAHAHAHAH
aiya..never mind la....brother. My third eye tells me you must be about 42 years old and could be my camp mate also last time. maybe last time in army I called you sabo king before also la...
WOAHAAHAHAHAH
nope im 33.
thank you for your forgiveness.
pls write more classic stories....:D
and i loves ur 3rd eye instinct
No seller wnat to sell low all would rather hold is the common answer now...:o
phantom_opera
13-12-11, 10:33
No seller wnat to sell low all would rather hold is the common answer now...:o
Same goes for mainland Chinese in June-September, at the end see what happen? When the lift reaches the top floor, sure got ppl wanting to rush in :doh:
I have been monitoring Shanghai-A for months, the technical breakdown below 2.3k is a very very very bearish signal ...
Shanghai's morning session closed at 2261 -1.33%
No seller wnat to sell low all would rather hold is the common answer now...:o
if market down.
etc.
#01-08 asking 500k,
die hard owners of #01-09 wanna sell 800k..?
and closed an eye, everytime his new 500k neighbour waves to him:D
No seller wnat to sell low all would rather hold is the common answer now...:oProvided they can hold lah... when interest rates hit 3%, and unemployment rate goes up, then we'll see some firesales... :cheers1:
Provided they can hold lah... when interest rates hit 3%, and unemployment rate goes up, then we'll see some firesales... :cheers1:
some from owners bgt in 2009,
abit more from owners bgt in 2010,
alot more from owners bgt in 2011...
we see huge prices spiral
Provided they can hold lah... when interest rates hit 3%, and unemployment rate goes up, then we'll see some firesales... :cheers1:
use this statement to seller, the answer u get from seller mostly is " hard to tell what u say will come true, so I would rather hold now unless u buy the price at slightly negotiated only" :o ...this is the fact even after CM5..seller in self denial or paving the way for CM6:o
some from owners bgt in 2009,
abit more from owners bgt in 2010,
alot more from owners bgt in 2011...
we see huge prices spiralYup.... those who bought in 09, some might have already sold and run road with the cash, waiting for the next down... Lol! :cheers6:
devilplate
13-12-11, 10:48
you have been praying very hard lately. are you ready to grab?
always....u? ;)
fry stocks first ;)
Usual answer to you: Singapore is small, couldn't implement any policy that can effectively influence inflation lah! Remember, when there is recession, the reason is because of global recession. When the economy did very well, it is because of their good planning and execution. :p
Ok ok, I give them a simple solution similar to their latest cooling measure:
- Impose 10% ABSD on all purchases of commercial, retail, industrial space etc by foreigners & all companies (regardless of local or foreign)! All foreigners taxed 50% on income. Sure cool the inflation one! :D
Lol. Our government missed the the target this time. Now the liquidity will flood commercial, f&b and retail space and core inflation will go up and up. Sigh.:doh:
No seller wnat to sell low all would rather hold is the common answer now...:o
The Buyer/seller gap will widen even more now.
End result = lower transaction, but may not see much drop in price (10%)
Price Confirm drop but Still too early to tell how much .:confused:
bargain hunter
13-12-11, 12:41
looked at the charts. shanghai a shares is now at its lowest since mar 2009?!?!??!?!?! :scared-1: :scared-4:
Same goes for mainland Chinese in June-September, at the end see what happen? When the lift reaches the top floor, sure got ppl wanting to rush in :doh:
I have been monitoring Shanghai-A for months, the technical breakdown below 2.3k is a very very very bearish signal ...
Shanghai's morning session closed at 2261 -1.33%
The Buyer/seller gap will widen even more now.
End result = lower transaction, but may not see much drop in price (10%)
Price Confirm drop but Still too early to tell how much .:confused:
Sellers are holding the price (only slight down) after CM5 announced...seems that buyers have to wait for situation of who blinks first as buyer expectation of lower price are even more obvious after CM5...unless the holding cost increases that will be the push to force the price down from sellers without waiting...:o CM6 ?:o
Alan Shearer
13-12-11, 13:20
C = Cooling NOT Crashing :sleep:
Alan Shearer
13-12-11, 13:32
Singapore's private home sales, prices & rents fall sharply in Q4
By Timothy Ouyang, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 29 December 2008 1447 hrs
SINGAPORE: Private home sales in Singapore have taken a sharp fall in the fourth quarter of this year.
According to a report released Monday by property consultant DTZ, only 112 private homes were sold in the primary market in October, and 192 units sold in November.
This, compared to the monthly average of 444 units sold in the first nine months of the year.
The October sales volume is the lowest since the release of official monthly sales data by the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) in June 2007.
For the full year, DTZ estimated that the number of home sales in the primary and secondary markets will only make up about 35 per cent of last year's sales, which saw some 38,100 units sold.
The figure is based on caveats lodged with the URA so far.
At the same time, the fall in private home prices have started to gather pace in the fourth quarter, with prime non-landed properties the hardest hit.
Prices of non-landed freehold private homes in the prime districts fell by 14 per cent quarter-on-quarter in the three months ended December, according to DTZ Research.
Overall, average private home prices have fallen 21.6 per cent year-on-year to S$1,160 per square feet, below the level of S$1,200 per sq ft in the second quarter of 2007.
Meanwhile, average monthly rents of prime non-landed homes have fallen 9.2 per cent to S$4.36 per square feet.
DTZ expects home sales to remain low next year as the recession takes its toll and homebuyers are concerned over job security.
- CNA/yb
CM5 :sleep: if no effect 6 months down the road as holding cost too low, than maybe CM6, seller will than be :scared-3: , buyer will be :D .... will this be the case? :o
CM5 :sleep: if no effect 6 months down the road as holding cost too low, than maybe CM6, seller will than be :scared-3: , buyer will be :D .... will this be the case? :o
SG maybe getting ready for QE3, the mother of all QE,
And to create the mother of all crash afterwards.:confused:
blackjack21trader
14-12-11, 14:25
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When replying, please do not quote the images. thank u.I really like this story but why are you expecting your two babies to close their bedroom doors when they probably can't even walk yet (from the look of your lovely photos, maybe one can walk while the other is only capable of crawling...) :cheers6: ?
blackjack21trader
14-12-11, 14:52
I really like this story but why are you expecting your two babies to close their bedroom doors when they probably can't even walk yet (from the look of your lovely photos, maybe one can walk while the other is only capable of crawling...) :cheers6: ?
good point. i did not notice that ! woahahahahaahahah
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